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| 06:56.17 | gilligan_ | morning |
| 06:56.28 | cpo_ | morning. is there a way when i build a image that a certain package gets build again? like DEPENDS or RDEPENDS# |
| 06:56.51 | cpo_ | when building minimal image and adding DEPENDS toolchain-sdk the sdk does not get packed |
| 06:56.52 | gilligan_ | bitbake -crebuild foo |
| 06:56.55 | gilligan_ | i assume? |
| 06:57.01 | methril | morning |
| 06:57.30 | cpo_ | gilligan not really :) |
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| 07:03.13 | gilligan_ | --force? :) |
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| 07:54.00 | Genesis | bonjour |
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| 07:54.22 | Esben | Morning |
| 07:54.38 | Esben | Any one going to CELF? |
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| 08:11.59 | hrw | morning |
| 08:12.03 | Esben | morning |
| 08:12.06 | hrw | Esben: s/CELF/ELC you mean? |
| 08:12.19 | Esben | yes |
| 08:12.25 | Esben | 6-7 november |
| 08:12.46 | mmp | -> *ibot* seen woglinde |
| 08:12.51 | Esben | I was wondering if a number of OE developers are going to stay at a particular hotel. |
| 08:12.58 | mmp | argh, sorry :) |
| 08:13.00 | Esben | if so, I would like to choose the same hotel :-) |
| 08:13.28 | hrw | ~seen wogline |
| 08:13.29 | ibot | i haven't seen 'wogline', hrw |
| 08:13.32 | hrw | ~seen woglinde |
| 08:13.33 | ibot | woglinde <n=heinold@omsk.mi.fu-berlin.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 12h 58m 44s ago, saying: 'bye till later'. |
| 08:13.36 | hrw | is better way mmp |
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| 08:15.46 | mmp | hrw: I know, I just didn't want to leave clutter on channel :) |
| 08:16.08 | mmp | so /msg'ing ibot directly was the first choice |
| 08:16.41 | flo_lap | good morning |
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| 08:41.11 | woglinde | morning |
| 08:41.21 | thebohemian | moin henning ;) |
| 08:44.51 | flo_lap | hi woglinde, hi thebohemian |
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| 09:30.59 | nakul_ | I am building jpeg-6b with EXTRA_OECONF="--enable-shared", during compile it is saying .." ./libtool: Command not found". libtool is already compiled.can anybody suggest what could be the problem .. |
| 09:36.01 | thebohemian | nakul_: another library that has problems with libtool2 |
| 09:36.45 | CIA-3 | 03 <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ree956ebf7a 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/xorg-driver/xf86-video-omapfb_git.bb: xf86 video omapfb: bump SRCREV for YV12 support |
| 09:38.23 | nakul_ | thebohemian: I think it should generate 'libtool' @ configure time. & that libtool is expected when it says ./libtool .. but libtool is not being generated.. |
| 09:39.08 | skrew | i can successfully get openswan compiling & installing but don't know how to have kernel modules... any tips ? |
| 09:41.27 | thebohemian | nakul_: look at the makefiles and find out which variable contains ./libtool |
| 09:41.45 | nakul_ | LIBTOOL |
| 09:42.00 | thebohemian | then add "VARIABLE=${TARGET_SYS}-libtool" to the oe_runmake call in your recipe |
| 09:42.52 | thebohemian | if there is no oe_runmake you may extend EXTRA_OEMAKE |
| 09:43.15 | thebohemian | nakul_: I assume that there is a ${TARGET_SYS}-libtool in the source dir |
| 09:44.10 | nakul_ | I am not getting ..plz explain |
| 09:44.11 | CIA-3 | 03 <bluelightning@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.stable * r06ab83ea93 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/ (8 files in 5 dirs): |
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| 10:09.44 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
| 10:10.00 | thebohemian | nakul_: sorry, pidgin crashed |
| 10:10.08 | thebohemian | (and I didn't noticed) |
| 10:10.08 | woglinde | moin hrw |
| 10:10.13 | mickeyl | hey hrw |
| 10:10.21 | mickeyl | hrw: how are things? |
| 10:10.44 | hrw | mickeyl: tomorrow last day with OH |
| 10:11.19 | hrw | mickeyl: I am discussing with next company - Poky still rather then OE. |
| 10:11.20 | mickeyl | hrw: i see. too bad. i hope you'll find something equally productive |
| 10:11.28 | mickeyl | oh, sounds good |
| 10:11.32 | mickeyl | what's good for poky is good for OE |
| 10:11.35 | mickeyl | imo |
| 10:11.50 | hrw | there are lot of things in poky worth adding to OE |
| 10:11.51 | mickeyl | [if you will commit again ;)] |
| 10:12.11 | hrw | mickeyl: I am waiting for git so next week will start merging |
| 10:12.16 | mickeyl | super |
| 10:12.49 | hrw | do we support user branches on git.oe.org? |
| 10:13.58 | hrw | as maemo changes are big, also other ones etc |
| 10:16.40 | hrw | ~curse git.freedesktop.org |
| 10:16.40 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, git.freedesktop.org ! |
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| 10:30.27 | pb__ | mickeyl: good morning |
| 10:30.48 | pb__ | well, afternoon I suppose |
| 10:31.43 | mickeyl | pb__: morning |
| 10:31.51 | mickeyl | ya, woke up pretty early (8 something) today |
| 10:32.00 | shoragan | pb__, should pb@reciva.com be used as your git id? |
| 10:32.05 | mickeyl | guess i still didn't arrive in my timezone ;) |
| 10:32.06 | mickeyl | yo shoragan |
| 10:32.08 | pb__ | mickeyl: heh, that's not like you |
| 10:32.10 | shoragan | k |
| 10:32.15 | pb__ | shoragan: I would prefer philb@gnu.org |
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| 10:32.52 | shoragan | pb__, ok, changed |
| 10:32.56 | pb__ | thanks |
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| 10:33.21 | pb__ | florian_: good morning |
| 10:33.51 | florian | re |
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| 10:34.46 | hrw | shoragan: which one I used in a list? |
| 10:34.50 | shoragan | ok, i should now have nearly all email addresses correct |
| 10:35.10 | shoragan | "Marcin Juszkiewicz" : (["Marcin", "Marcin Juszkiewicz <openembedded@hrw.one.pl>", "Marcin Juzkiewicz <hrw@openembedded.org>", "hrw@openedhand.com", "hrw@openembedded.org", "local!szczepan", "hrw.one.pl!szczepan", "hrw.one.pl!hrw", "local!hrw"], "openembedded@hrw.one.pl") |
| 10:35.42 | shoragan | the list is now in MTN contrib/mtn2git/manglenames.py |
| 10:37.17 | hrw | shoragan: please change main address to hrw@openembedded.org - my monotone databse is broken |
| 10:37.23 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 10:37.39 | woglinde | pb I fixes the e2fsprogs problem |
| 10:37.44 | woglinde | fixed |
| 10:40.54 | shoragan | hrw, so hrw@oe.org is a valid address? |
| 10:42.30 | hrw | it was last time |
| 10:43.10 | drasar | Hello. I receive an error if I try to build Angstrom distribution from "org.openembedded.stable" for HTC Blueangel. I have found that this bug is reported at "http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4465" already. How is possible that there is a successful build for Blueangel (http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/htcblueangel/) while this bug is remaining? |
| 10:47.11 | woglinde | drasar stable vs. unstable~ |
| 10:48.03 | shoragan | hrw, did you get my test mail? |
| 10:50.05 | hrw | shoragan: @oe.org was always slow... |
| 10:50.12 | shoragan | k |
| 10:50.21 | hrw | shoragan: and I do notknow for how long I will keep @hrw.one.pl and @haerwu.biz |
| 10:50.44 | drasar | woglinde: Yes, but "2007.12-r18" that is built by autobuild on that link is just in stable, right? |
| 10:51.43 | woglinde | drasar hm where is it failig for you? |
| 10:55.58 | drasar | woglinde: While compiling "openmoko-dialer2". It is the same problem as I mentioned |
| 10:57.18 | woglinde | drasar hm you could try to update the openmoko-dialer2 src rev and try again |
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| 10:57.39 | drasar | woglinde: "openmoko-dialer2" is compiled while building "bitbake x11-image" |
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| 10:59.00 | woglinde | drasar in the angstroem stuff is base and console image |
| 10:59.07 | woglinde | no xstuff and no openmoko stuff |
| 10:59.11 | woglinde | thats the answer |
| 10:59.58 | drasar | woglinde: How can I do it? I have proceeded according to "http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-%C3%A5ngstr%C3%B6m" |
| 11:00.50 | drasar | woglinde: Yes I know, but I need x11-image |
| 11:01.24 | woglinde | drasar edit conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc and try the version which is in .dev |
| 11:01.32 | woglinde | I am to lunch now |
| 11:04.40 | drasar | woglinde: I modified the x11-image.bb, and removed the openmoko-dialer2 (replace it with empty item) as is mentioned at "http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4465#c3" |
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| 11:23.27 | shoragan | hrw, did you receive the mail? |
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| 11:33.29 | skrew | is there a patch for the "error: 'struct sk_buff' has no member named 'nh'" when you compile openswan for kernel ? (2.6.22) |
| 11:37.26 | shoragan | gilligan_, you there? |
| 11:37.45 | hrw | shoragan: got reply? |
| 11:38.03 | shoragan | hrw, not yet |
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| 11:41.47 | Jin^eLD | re |
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| 11:42.33 | drasar | woglinde: So I have tried "openmoko-dialer2-1_0.1.0+svnr4343-r6" from dev and received the same error |
| 11:44.36 | CIA-3 | 03 <bluelightning@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r97e075cc1a 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/corsair/ (corsair_0.2.6.bb files/corsair-opie.patch): corsair: fix compile for qte/qte-mt selection |
| 11:44.53 | drasar | woglinde: But removing this package from "x11-image.bb" should be enough for me ;) |
| 11:50.23 | hrw | I wonder why x11-image depends on openmoko-dialer2 at all |
| 11:52.31 | woglinde | hrw yes I wonder too |
| 11:53.19 | woglinde | hrw but for the htc it would make sense |
| 11:53.57 | hrw | no |
| 11:54.02 | woglinde | hm |
| 11:54.08 | hrw | it should be x11-phone-image for it |
| 11:54.15 | woglinde | is the dialer this much shitty? |
| 11:54.38 | hrw | dialer adds gsmd, openmoko libs etc |
| 11:56.48 | hrw | tracking x11 git versions suxx |
| 11:57.54 | CIA-3 | 03 <jluebbe@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r313883bd4d 10org.openembedded.dev.git/contrib/mtn2git/manglenames.py: mtn2git: add Jordan Crouse's email |
| 11:57.57 | CIA-3 | 03 <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rcd529ac20d 10org.openembedded.dev.git/: |
| 11:57.57 | CIA-3 | merge of '4814b69151af2e49760bb9a3837c26ca674a7636' |
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| 12:02.07 | Jin^eLD | guys, is DEPENDS also valid for the do_unpack stage? I use rpm2cpio to extract the contents of a .src.rpm, I added a dependency on rpm2cpio-native and on cpio-native, but it seems that the unpack stage of my recipe is triggered before those two dependencies are built |
| 12:02.17 | shoragan | hrw, ok, got it |
| 12:02.29 | zecke | shoragan: moo |
| 12:02.35 | shoragan | zecke, yoo |
| 12:02.47 | zecke | shoragan: when should we begin? |
| 12:03.05 | shoragan | zecke, i'm doing a dryrun right now |
| 12:03.09 | zecke | RP: have you seen the pyflakes result? |
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| 12:03.25 | zecke | shoragan: ah you applied the existing patches to the maillist? |
| 12:03.30 | shoragan | yes |
| 12:04.07 | shoragan | zecke, the list is now in mtn |
| 12:05.08 | zecke | out of my reach then :) |
| 12:05.37 | shoragan | oh |
| 12:05.49 | zecke | shoragan: so a gitosis setup is the only missing bit? |
| 12:06.02 | shoragan | maybe, no idea |
| 12:06.22 | shoragan | i've got my own gitosis setup |
| 12:07.42 | zecke | shoragan: currently it is named gittrial :) |
| 12:08.03 | zecke | shoragan: I wonder if we should have a precommit hook to forbid merging of old and new history :) |
| 12:08.32 | shoragan | zecke, can you do that? |
| 12:09.00 | zecke | shoragan: merge? or forbid? |
| 12:09.24 | shoragan | forbit it in a precommit hook |
| 12:09.32 | shoragan | would be nice to have |
| 12:09.39 | zecke | shoragan: I assume we could... |
| 12:10.08 | hrw | zecke: RP is on conference, but I forwarded that request to him |
| 12:10.54 | hrw | hi Cliff |
| 12:11.24 | zecke | hrw: thanks, tell him this can wait :) |
| 12:12.24 | shoragan | ok, fast-importing now, then i'll repack and push to my gitosis so you can have a look |
| 12:12.29 | hrw | zecke: he probably will add it to long list of things to do |
| 12:14.21 | hrw | there is one thing which I will miss after working for OH |
| 12:14.27 | hrw | Poky autobuilder |
| 12:14.33 | zecke | hrw: the long list of things to do? |
| 12:15.07 | zecke | hrw: running a buildbot setup is not too difficult, I can have a all red waterfall of OE :) |
| 12:15.37 | hrw | zecke: I have buildbot config on one of my home machines - will need to setup it on fastest one |
| 12:16.08 | hrw | zecke: [14:15:58] <RP> hrw: ouch, that pyflakes looks ugly |
| 12:17.25 | zecke | hrw: the cool thing about the poky buildbot is, if things are red you fix them :) |
| 12:17.44 | zecke | continues to hack on prelink... |
| 12:18.25 | hrw | zecke: if I will get customer for OE builds I will check them |
| 12:18.40 | shoragan | zecke, what do you want to try with prelinking/ |
| 12:19.46 | zecke | shoragan: prelink on building the rootfs (I think I know why SuSE is not enabling prelink) |
| 12:19.56 | zecke | shoragan: the other is to use michael meeks -Bdirect emulation |
| 12:20.41 | shoragan | what's -Bdirect? |
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| 12:21.01 | woglinde | re |
| 12:21.35 | zecke | shoragan: it is a sun linker option, michael meeks implemented something like this for GNU... I would google now as well |
| 12:22.52 | zecke | http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2006-06/msg00418.html alternative |
| 12:23.14 | zecke | http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2005-10/msg00436.html meeks foo |
| 12:29.39 | pb__ | zecke: good morning |
| 12:32.27 | zecke | pb__: morning master, did you play with any of prelink, or binutils patches to speed up resolving of symbols? |
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| 12:33.54 | pb__ | zecke: I did some stuff with prelink a few years ago, but nothing recently. I don't think I've ever looked at the binutils hashing stuff in any detail. |
| 12:34.48 | pb__ | The Meeks -Bdirect thing is, if I understand it correctly, probably not a good idea in general because it will change the symbol binding semantics |
| 12:34.48 | zecke | pb__: prelink is a huge win, sadly it changes the binaries and needs to be rerun after upgrades... |
| 12:35.34 | pb__ | zecke: yah, indeed. I did think at one point about doing build-time "pre-prelinking" but I don't think I ever got anywhere with that. |
| 12:35.35 | zecke | pb__: yes, ulrich is quite straight on this topic. the gnu hash looks like a good idea |
| 12:36.06 | pb__ | in principle there's no reason why you couldn't run prelink offline, so long as you can predict with reasonable accuracy what binaries will be installed. |
| 12:36.07 | zecke | pb__: ah... build time... I will start with prelinking my rootfs |
| 12:36.25 | pb__ | obviously that doesn't work in the general case with a desktop type system, but in an embedded environment you generally have rather tighter control over versions. |
| 12:36.38 | zecke | pb__: right, as long as you use the same cache and your address space is big enough you can do it at buildtime for everything |
| 12:36.52 | pb__ | in particular, if your whole rootfs is a single readonly cramfs (or whatever) you should be able to prelink the whole lot offline with no problems. |
| 12:37.23 | pb__ | if you are allowing people to do piecemeal upgrades of individual packages then things are slightly trickier, but the linker is smart enough that it will disregard prelink information when the binaries don't match. |
| 12:37.44 | pb__ | so, in the worst case, users with "inconsistent" systems will just not see any prelink benefit until they have everything back in sync. |
| 12:38.48 | zecke | pb__: right, maybe I should just add a post inst prelink target to opkg... I'm batlling in emulating ld-linux.so to find and resolve libraries to have a cross prelink |
| 12:40.18 | shoragan | zecke, could we instead just link each lib to a unique address at build time? |
| 12:40.47 | pb__ | shoragan: heh, this is what we used to do in 1992. |
| 12:41.02 | shoragan | pb__, so why is it a bad idea? |
| 12:41.38 | pb__ | because it requires you to centrally coordinate all your library load addresses to make sure they don't overlap. |
| 12:41.52 | pb__ | this is how a.out shared libraries worked in days before elf |
| 12:41.53 | Crofton|work | we have more libraries now ... |
| 12:42.02 | zecke | shoragan: eeek, I don't want to use a.out anymore... |
| 12:42.04 | zecke | I'm happy with ELF |
| 12:42.35 | pb__ | one of the main drivers for the linux binary format change from a.out to elf was that the old shared library system just didn't scale. |
| 12:43.10 | raster | yay! a.out! |
| 12:43.21 | raster | pulls out the sarcasm |
| 12:43.24 | hrw | libc4 :) |
| 12:43.24 | pb__ | in theory it would be possible to do something like that at the DISTRO level, but it would still be a nightmare. remember that libraries can change in size from one version to the next, so you might need to keep giving them completely different address ranges. |
| 12:43.43 | pb__ | all in all, it is a pretty bad idea. |
| 12:43.43 | pb__ | heh |
| 12:43.51 | zecke | http://rafb.net/p/Bln8J762.html do you guys think this is a good idea? |
| 12:43.59 | pb__ | prelink basically gives you that benefit but without the administrative nightmare. |
| 12:44.14 | hrw | prelink would be good for readonly images |
| 12:44.18 | zecke | pb__: lies... libraries only get smaller and faster :) |
| 12:44.22 | hrw | as they will never get updates |
| 12:44.44 | pb__ | zecke: ah yes, I forgot you do not use gnome |
| 12:45.04 | pb__ | I guess a.out would be fine for kde :-) |
| 12:45.29 | zecke | pb__: actually I have a gnome-terminal, pidgin and such things running |
| 12:45.44 | pb__ | recoils from the screen in shock |
| 12:45.52 | zecke | pb__: but I think version numbers in GNOME world just say how much more space and memmory your require :) |
| 12:46.11 | zecke | pb__: I thought gtk+-2.0 means you neeed now twice as much resources :) |
| 12:46.12 | pb__ | zecke: right, it is part of a unified marketing message with intel and the computer vendors. |
| 12:46.29 | zecke | big corporates and GNOME :) |
| 12:46.36 | pb__ | the idea is that the cpu model number, ram and disk size will all be synchronised with the gnome release number. |
| 12:46.59 | BlindMan | i thought the deal was exclusively made with ms regarding that? |
| 12:47.15 | BlindMan | or like, gnome being a copycat :) |
| 12:47.46 | pb__ | stabs evolution |
| 12:47.58 | pb__ | why did they implement this stupid feature of turning the preview window off whenever it crashes? |
| 12:48.16 | BlindMan | pb__: I have to use outlook, do you think that's a steup up on the ladder? :) |
| 12:48.18 | pb__ | wouldn't be so bad if they had made it crash less often at the same time, I suppose |
| 12:48.26 | zecke | pb__: :) |
| 12:48.32 | pb__ | BlindMan: heh. well, sometimes I do wonder. |
| 12:48.58 | pb__ | zecke: regarding your patch, I find myself wondering whether the whole PE business is somewhat misconceived. |
| 12:49.32 | pb__ | PE seems like another thing that is basically just a matter of distro policy, and I kind of feel it belongs in the distro config files. |
| 12:50.19 | pb__ | i.e. if the 4ng5tr0m people want to bump PE on mythtv or something, they can set PE_mythtv = "500" in their distro configuration without bothering other people. |
| 12:51.10 | zecke | pb__: I think we really have more than one epoch. One is the classic use case for epoch 1.0 > 1.0-beta1, the other is some kind of policy change in the distro... |
| 12:51.20 | pb__ | the only case where a global, cross-distro PE thing would seem to make sense is where the upstream version number really did go backwards, and that happens very rarely indeed. |
| 12:51.37 | pb__ | 99% of the time, PE is just used as a way to recover from some packaging screw-up that has affected some or other distro. |
| 12:51.52 | zecke | pb__: e.g. if I recompile everything with new flags I want everything to be recompiled... |
| 12:52.02 | pb__ | right, indeed |
| 12:52.08 | hrw | beware of libx11 1.1.9x |
| 12:52.13 | pb__ | or if you recompile against a different set of shared libraries, or some such |
| 12:52.23 | pb__ | even then, arguably that is more a PR change than PE. |
| 12:52.25 | thebohemian | zecke: I though 1.0 > 1.0-beta1 is solved by PV="0.9+1.0-beta" :) |
| 12:52.34 | zecke | thebohemian: yes |
| 12:52.44 | zecke | pb__: I just saw that the packagemanager actually has no idea about PE |
| 12:52.53 | zecke | pb__: it is just us prepending a number?! |
| 12:53.12 | zecke | or actually the package managers knows %d: |
| 12:53.13 | pb__ | zecke: ipkg certainly did use to understand epochs, and I imagine opkg does too. |
| 12:53.20 | pb__ | it would be pretty weird if the openmoko folks had removed that feature |
| 12:53.32 | zecke | pb__: sorry, my confusion |
| 12:54.10 | zecke | pb__: so in package manager land we have 1x epoch support, in OE land we have two cases where we would like to change the epoch... |
| 12:54.29 | zecke | pb__: and what is your thought on mixing these two things? |
| 12:55.15 | pb__ | zecke: I think my position is that epoch changes should be reserved solely for recovering from version number mistakes, e.g. accidentally releasing a package with a version number that is out of sequence and now sorts higher than you wanted. |
| 12:55.32 | pb__ | whether that happened because of a "1.0-beta3" kind of thing, or because upstream actually changed their mind about versioning, is more or less irrelevant. |
| 12:55.52 | pb__ | the other case, where you are just recompiling with different flags, seems like it should be handled either by a PR bump, or by an architecture change. |
| 12:56.14 | hrw | or fix ipkg/opkg to get 1.0~beta3 < 1.0 as it is in dpkg? |
| 12:56.28 | hrw | and then we can use PV="1.0~beta3" |
| 12:56.42 | pb__ | both opkg and ipkg understand architectures as having a range of attractiveness, so you can have libkde3_1.0.0_arm+zecke.ipk built with your own eleet options and ipkg will understand it is better than the regular arm version. |
| 12:57.02 | pb__ | it will, I think, even upgrade from one to the other automatically without the version number having to change. |
| 12:57.13 | zecke | pb__: okay, architecture change... so you would put build config the archnames |
| 12:57.30 | zecke | pb__: armv4t+zecke's-magic om-gta02+zecke's-magic? |
| 12:57.33 | pb__ | zecke: depends on the situation, either in the architecture name or just as a component of PR. |
| 12:57.52 | zecke | pb__: changing the PR globally is rather difficult |
| 12:58.06 | pb__ | arguably the biggest problem in this space is that DISTROs have no way to influence PR without fiddling every individual .bb file. |
| 12:58.17 | pb__ | I think that is probably my one biggest complaint about the oe metadata structure. |
| 12:58.23 | zecke | pb__: e.g. the only non obvious thing would be to have an "auto increment pr" |
| 12:59.04 | pb__ | yeah, or build it up from a set of components. PR = "${DISTRO_PR}.${FILE_PR}" or some such. |
| 12:59.44 | zecke | pb__: the pro's of abusing PE, one single line to change for a global upgrade, easy upgrade path... but I understand your point |
| 12:59.59 | pb__ | the problem with PE is that once you use it, you can't really go back. |
| 13:00.01 | zecke | pb__: yes, I have proposed something like this for PV |
| 13:00.17 | pb__ | PR gets effectively reset on every PV bump, so it is much more transient in that sense. |
| 13:00.39 | zecke | pb__: you are right |
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| 13:03.46 | zecke | looks like I will have a go at poking PRs... |
| 13:03.55 | pb__ | ok, very good |
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| 13:08.14 | shoragan | http://git.sicherheitsschwankung.de/?p=jan/oetest.git;a=summary |
| 13:08.19 | shoragan | this is my dryrun |
| 13:08.36 | shoragan | everyone please check if it looks sane :) |
| 13:08.51 | zecke | send a mail :) |
| 13:09.23 | shoragan | :p |
| 13:11.04 | zecke | shoragan: dreambox was not updated for 18month? that does not look right :) |
| 13:11.35 | shoragan | where should i pull to get the most recent stuff? |
| 13:11.47 | zecke | shoragan: what is your current glob? |
| 13:11.55 | shoragan | no idea |
| 13:11.59 | shoragan | i just use mtn pull :) |
| 13:12.07 | zecke | shoragan: mtn pull server org.openembedded.* |
| 13:12.15 | zecke | shoragan: and also get the latest nslu2 bits |
| 13:12.20 | shoragan | ok |
| 13:12.23 | shoragan | which servers? |
| 13:12.58 | zecke | shoragan: for any OE mirror and monotone.nslu2-linux.org for org.nslu2* stuff |
| 13:15.21 | zecke | ah good our glibc builds itself with --hash-style=both |
| 13:15.21 | shoragan | zecke, will update those branches |
| 13:15.27 | zecke | cool :) |
| 13:15.31 | pb__ | very good |
| 13:17.06 | pb__ | zecke: by the way, if you are interested in improving performance on openmoko, you might also consider turning off OABI compatibility in the kernel. that has, or did have last time I checked, a measurable impact on system call latency. |
| 13:17.18 | pb__ | if you're in a pure eabi world nowadays then you shouldn't need that. |
| 13:17.36 | XorA | gta01 isnt pure EABI :-( |
| 13:17.46 | pb__ | oh, and you should compile your kernel without CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER, but you knew that. |
| 13:18.00 | pb__ | XorA: which bits use oabi? |
| 13:18.00 | mwester | was actually wondering about that the other day, as SlugOS will move to EABI shortly. That's unfortunate... :( |
| 13:18.08 | XorA | pb__: stupid binary only gps driver |
| 13:18.35 | pb__ | XorA: oh, that is a shame. what form does the binary come in, a shared library or something? |
| 13:18.46 | hrw | pb__: binary |
| 13:18.54 | mwester | Gaah! gllin strikes again! |
| 13:19.00 | XorA | pb__: executable |
| 13:19.06 | hrw | pb__: and their attempts to get eabi version failed as it does not wanted to work at all |
| 13:19.17 | pb__ | XorA: ah, so does that mean you ship your entire userspace as oabi? |
| 13:19.20 | hrw | XorA: tried Andrew schwartz tool? |
| 13:19.20 | shoragan | pb__, we could disable oabi compat in the gta02 config |
| 13:19.28 | pb__ | or do you just have a little oabi world for the gps and everything else runs as eabi? |
| 13:19.41 | pb__ | if it's just one binary then it should be easy enough to wrap it with LD_PRELOAD to make it run against an eabi kernel. |
| 13:19.45 | XorA | pb__: no, minimal bits of glibc and maybe other libraries |
| 13:20.15 | mwester | The defconfigs for gta01 and 02 will differ anyway; and never will boot correctly if interchanged -- I think we could limit OABI support to the 01 |
| 13:20.19 | XorA | pb__: not sure if its in a chroot, or using ld.so tricks |
| 13:20.40 | pb__ | XorA: ah, I see. well, if it has a special glibc anyway then you could easily enough make that use the eabi syscall interface and turn off oabi in the kernel. |
| 13:20.45 | XorA | mwester: yeah, I forgot we officially dropped the one kernel |
| 13:20.53 | mwester | Currently uses ld.so tricks, but might be able to do a chroot |
| 13:21.16 | pb__ | mwester: I didn't understand your comment about unfortunate for slugos. surely if you are moving to eabi soon then that's good, right? |
| 13:21.21 | shoragan | mwester, the ld.so tricks save a lot of space |
| 13:21.28 | shoragan | compared to a chroot |
| 13:21.52 | pb__ | heh, I guess I should just look on my gta01 rather than asking questions :-} |
| 13:21.54 | mwester | Yes, we're eager to go to EABI -- I was just hoping we could keep OABI support as well without performance penalty. |
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| 13:22.16 | shoragan | zecke, will nslu2 also switch to git with us? |
| 13:22.42 | mwester | shoragan: I'm coming to the conclusion that we'll end up having to do rootfs on SD for GTA01 anyway, it's pretty tight. |
| 13:22.54 | shoragan | maybe |
| 13:23.07 | zecke | shoragan: I think they will |
| 13:23.08 | pb__ | mwester: ah, I see. well, it's not so much a performance penalty, more lack of a performance improvement. |
| 13:23.21 | mwester | nslu2-linux is ready to switch. |
| 13:23.28 | shoragan | zecke, it is important that the use the same conversion |
| 13:23.34 | XorA | we could just finish making glling work under schwartz and forget about OABI on gta01 as well |
| 13:23.41 | pb__ | mwester: eabi with oabi-compat is about the same as pure oabi, just not as fast as pure eabi. |
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| 13:24.36 | mwester | pb__: Thanks for the clarification -- one of the goals is performance, so I think we may have to consider a clean break, and just not support the old binaries. I'll toss the question out to the NSLU2 mailing list... |
| 13:25.09 | woglinde | mwester I fixed the efsprogs problem |
| 13:25.19 | woglinde | hi diego |
| 13:25.32 | zecke | shoragan: I think they will just switch as well and use our result |
| 13:25.37 | pb__ | mwester: the issue, for what it's worth, is that oabi encodes the syscall number in the swi instruction. if you have oabi compat enabled then you have to inspect every swi to find out whether it is oabi or not. |
| 13:25.41 | shoragan | ok |
| 13:26.02 | pb__ | mwester: I guess you could actually do something with personality() to mark pure eabi tasks as such and avoid doing the lookup for them. that might be a good way to mitigate the loss. |
| 13:26.54 | pb__ | or, if you were prepared to lose the ability to mix and match within a single process, you could just set a flag based on whether you had ever seen an eabi syscall and assume that all syscalls will be eabi if yes. |
| 13:27.10 | pb__ | that would still allow you to run legacy binaries without any real impact on new ones. |
| 13:28.42 | woglinde | sorry for offtopic hm does anyone knows how the filter in scandir works or has a example? |
| 13:28.48 | _diego_ | hi |
| 13:29.24 | _diego_ | /mnt/sdd1/oe2/tmp/work/i486-angstrom-linux/e2fspr ogs-1.38-r13/e2fsprogs-1.38/e2fsck -> good, i was going to ask about that :D |
| 13:29.45 | shoragan | zecke, from monotone.nslu2-linux.org i didn't get any revisions |
| 13:29.51 | _diego_ | (some problem in cut&paste ... :( ) |
| 13:29.58 | woglinde | _diego_ i fixed it yesterday for eal |
| 13:31.37 | zecke | shoragan: what glob did you use? |
| 13:32.25 | shoragan | mtn pull monotone.nslu2-linux.org org.nslu2* |
| 13:32.25 | shoragan | mtn: doing anonymous pull; use -kKEYNAME if you need authentication |
| 13:32.25 | shoragan | mtn: connecting to monotone.nslu2-linux.org |
| 13:32.25 | shoragan | mtn: finding items to synchronize: |
| 13:32.25 | shoragan | mtn: certificates | keys | revisions |
| 13:32.25 | shoragan | mtn: 1024 | 5 | 340 |
| 13:32.25 | shoragan | mtn: bytes in | bytes out | certs in | revs in |
| 13:32.25 | shoragan | mtn: 1.1 k | 1.3 k | 0/0 | 0/0 |
| 13:32.53 | zecke | http://monotone.nslu2-linux.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=18cd7bbf2fd04ca0f1937cc96beabf526c2c6d47 makes sense |
| 13:34.20 | shoragan | so they didn't do any developement for 5 months?! |
| 13:34.48 | zecke | shoragan: in this branch yes, but it only contains their Master Makefile and such |
| 13:35.00 | shoragan | ah |
| 13:35.09 | shoragan | so should i pull with a different glob? |
| 13:35.32 | zecke | shoragan: you have converted some revs from them. but e.g. their bitbake branch is not converted? |
| 13:35.43 | mwester | wonders where rwhity is... |
| 13:35.49 | mwester | er, rwhitby even. |
| 13:36.11 | zecke | sleeping? :) |
| 13:36.21 | shoragan | zecke, i've converted everything i've got in my mtn db |
| 13:36.44 | zecke | shoragan: okay, and org.openembedded.dreambox has rev's from yesterday? |
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| 13:37.02 | shoragan | currently i'm updateing with the less restrictive glob on org.openembedded.* |
| 13:37.02 | mwester | The nslu2 bitbake branch has historically been local only, I can't imagine that it would change with git, unless git doesn't allow that. |
| 13:37.21 | zecke | shoragan: there is one branch you did not convert at all but this is due multiple heads :) |
| 13:37.37 | shoragan | zecke, which one? |
| 13:37.57 | zecke | mwester: yes, my idea would be to convert everything, let you guys move the stuff you want to nslu2-linux.org and we can remove the branches from the OE servers |
| 13:38.07 | zecke | shoragan: the entity branch |
| 13:38.39 | mwester | FWIW, the need for a bitbake branch is to be able to tag releases including the bitbake versions used for said release -- so if bitbake is ever added to the main git repo, we certainly would be happy to use that (there are no local mods to bitbake) |
| 13:38.53 | shoragan | zecke, so should i try to migrate that one, too? |
| 13:39.17 | zecke | shoragan: don't bother :) |
| 13:39.29 | shoragan | k :) |
| 13:40.00 | zecke | mwester: okay, I think currently we only make sure that everything is converted from mtn to git, we can fix policies afterwards :) |
| 13:40.12 | mwester | That seems wise to me. |
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| 13:41.01 | shoragan | zecke, who can switch mtn to readonly? |
| 13:41.12 | zecke | mickeyl: ping :) |
| 13:41.17 | zecke | shoragan: do we want to switch to ro now? |
| 13:41.40 | shoragan | nah, you announced wednesday |
| 13:41.59 | alphaone | zecke: Do it! :-) |
| 13:42.19 | zecke | shoragan: I announced tuesday readonly |
| 13:42.25 | shoragan | ah |
| 13:42.39 | mwester | checks his calendar ;) |
| 13:42.50 | shoragan | Tuesday: |
| 13:42.50 | shoragan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.50 | shoragan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.50 | shoragan | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.51 | zecke | shoragan: and I don't remember what I did 10 minutes ago, how should I remember what I wrote in taipei ages ago? |
| 13:42.52 | shoragan | :) |
| 13:43.13 | zecke | wtf is german time? it is not well defined, let me declare it is 16h |
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| 13:43.25 | alphaone | Hehe |
| 13:43.54 | alphaone | zecke: let me just add that one commit that breaks builds for everyone ;-) |
| 13:46.39 | alphaone | zecke: Btw your patch fixes the branch cache issue for me. |
| 13:49.46 | hrw | shoragan: http://git.sicherheitsschwankung.de/?p=jan/oetest.git;a=commit;h=5f3bd83a121d59e95e426be6dea862bc8ed1fa22 - this probably was made by Phil |
| 13:50.00 | zecke | alphaone: try to break it |
| 13:51.10 | zecke | it should be ro now |
| 13:51.19 | shoragan | who is trini@kernel.crashing.org? |
| 13:51.32 | zecke | Tom Rini (Tim Rini)? |
| 13:51.46 | zecke | http://www.google.de/search?q=Tom+Rini&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:de:unofficial&client=firefox-a |
| 13:51.48 | hrw | found my first commit :) |
| 13:52.08 | hrw | http://git.sicherheitsschwankung.de/?p=jan/oetest.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2a8a34bbf3656607d8a222f2cdcff1f1b212f51;hp=e9fc69562fcd8c405ca4279027a0c155c5874638 - 4.5 year ago |
| 13:52.14 | hrw | lot of time |
| 13:52.15 | shoragan | ah found him |
| 13:52.20 | alphaone | hrw: cool :-) |
| 13:53.08 | hrw | that week of trying to get openzaurus 3.5.0 booted on collie.. |
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| 13:55.30 | hrw | pure fun |
| 13:57.28 | hrw | pb__: http://git.sicherheitsschwankung.de/?p=jan/oetest.git;a=commit;h=5f3bd83a121d59e95e426be6dea862bc8ed1fa22 is yours? |
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| 14:00.05 | zecke | mickeyl: RP: I created a git user account and will move the gitosis config there |
| 14:00.20 | shoragan | hrw, thanks, fixed the bug |
| 14:02.12 | shoragan | zecke: |
| 14:02.13 | shoragan | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.14 | shoragan | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.14 | shoragan | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:02.20 | shoragan | should be current now |
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| 14:04.25 | zecke | cool |
| 14:04.36 | zecke | shoragan: did you send your ssh key yet? |
| 14:04.44 | shoragan | please verify though |
| 14:04.49 | shoragan | zecke, no ;) |
| 14:05.11 | alphaone | zecke: Did I send mine yet? |
| 14:05.36 | zecke | alphaone: not in the last 5 minutes, who are you anyway? I'm z nice to meet to you. :) |
| 14:05.49 | XorA | zecke: are you copying keys from git trial? |
| 14:05.55 | alphaone | I sent it, but I haven't heard back so I'm not sure if it made it anywhere |
| 14:06.07 | alphaone | zecke: Hehe, I sent it some months ago |
| 14:07.18 | alphaone | zecke: Send them to you? |
| 14:07.19 | zecke | XorA: hehe, I will |
| 14:08.16 | shoragan | zecke, so you switched to readonly? |
| 14:08.25 | zecke | shoragan: try :) |
| 14:08.34 | shoragan | i just noticed :) |
| 14:09.11 | zecke | mtn-0.40: warning: error: denied 'nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.org' write permission for 'org.openembedded.dev' excluding '' |
| 14:09.20 | zecke | mtn-0.40: warning: error: denied 'jluebbe@openembedded.org' write permission for 'org.openembedded.dev' excluding '' |
| 14:09.24 | zecke | I see everything :) |
| 14:09.46 | Crofton | hmm, I better send in my key |
| 14:09.59 | mwester | I just turned off the nslu2 sync. |
| 14:10.02 | Crofton | and re-read dummmies guide to git |
| 14:10.22 | mwester | Er, quick question -- how do I make a mtn repo ro? |
| 14:10.34 | zecke | mwester: no idea about the proper way |
| 14:10.44 | zecke | mwester: in ~/.mtn/monotone.rc you can define who has write access |
| 14:10.55 | zecke | mwester: -- are comments in lua and I put in return false :) |
| 14:11.05 | mwester | That'll work. |
| 14:11.05 | hrw | mwester: drop all public keys? |
| 14:11.18 | mwester | hrw: that's a little extreme :-D |
| 14:11.19 | XorA | hmmm, better make sure broonie shuts down wolfson mirror as well |
| 14:12.39 | zecke | brb ~one hour or such |
| 14:12.51 | zecke | and then I will work on the gitosis setup |
| 14:14.28 | mwester | heh - rwhitby already had a monotonerc.readonly file ready to be put in place. :) |
| 14:18.15 | pb__ | hrw: hm, no idea. |
| 14:18.22 | pb__ | where was oe's metadata hosted before bitkeeper? |
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| 14:19.56 | pb__ | too senile to remember that far back |
| 14:20.39 | hrw | pb__: there were pre-bk times? |
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| 14:20.49 | pb__ | I think so |
| 14:20.54 | pb__ | old man mickeyl might remember |
| 14:21.06 | hrw | pb__: when I started with OE it was bitkeeper |
| 14:21.10 | XorA | I thought OE had started on bitkeeper |
| 14:21.20 | XorA | OZ was in sourceforge svn wasnt it |
| 14:21.27 | hrw | s/svn/cvs |
| 14:21.35 | XorA | oh yeah, even older :-) |
| 14:27.00 | pb__ | oh, I remember, mickeyl had some... er, thing for non-bk users to commit with. |
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| 14:27.14 | pb__ | http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/oe.deprecated/?PAGE=cset&REV=40a3f5f7gm439VgcT-LmpsixEKhp4Q |
| 14:27.25 | pb__ | that must be why I am pb_@uni-frankfurt.de :-} |
| 14:28.43 | pb__ | it looks like http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/oe.deprecated/?PAGE=cset&REV=405d0fd0_q59bLm0kNigU3FEtX9ZHA was my actual first patch according to the bk history, though I don't really remember it. |
| 14:34.38 | hrw | ah, right... |
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| 14:35.45 | hrw | btw - Shawn Rutledge sounds familiar but I do not remember why - someone? |
| 14:36.33 | Jin^eLD | is DEPENDS also valid for do_unpack? (i.e. is it ensured that do_unpack will run after all deps have been processed) |
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| 14:38.16 | mwester | Shawn - Openmoko IIRC? |
| 14:40.17 | hrw | ah.. yes |
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| 14:54.06 | quickdev | Hey |
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| 16:08.42 | pb__ | g'day kergoth |
| 16:08.56 | pb__ | heh |
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| 16:11.39 | kergoth | hey |
| 16:12.26 | shoragan | okay, the conversion should be ok now |
| 16:12.34 | shoragan | i've fixed some broken names |
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| 16:23.05 | shoragan | zecke, jetzt bist du dran :) |
| 16:23.18 | shoragan | ich habe noch ein paar bugs gefixed und neu exportiert |
| 16:23.35 | shoragan | der aktuelle zustand ist im oetest repo auf sicherheitsschwankung.de |
| 16:24.22 | hrw | shoragan: ich sprechen Deutsch nicht |
| 16:24.27 | hrw | hi kergoth |
| 16:24.48 | shoragan | hrw, sorry, my brain hurts |
| 16:25.12 | hrw | kergoth: was OE stored in other SCM then bitkeeper in old times? |
| 16:25.46 | kergoth | pretty sure it was cvs or something before it went to bk, there's probably some old bk commits with funky commit messages from the conversion... but my memory may be failing me again |
| 16:25.50 | kergoth | that was quite a few years ago |
| 16:25.56 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:26.24 | kergoth | thinks |
| 16:26.34 | hrw | kergoth: we have whole bitkeeper history imported into git now |
| 16:26.43 | kergoth | i heard, that's excellent |
| 16:26.43 | hrw | thanks to shoragan's work |
| 16:26.58 | hrw | kergoth: and we wondered was there something before bk times |
| 16:27.09 | CosmicPenguin | My beer addled memory says that there was only ever bk |
| 16:27.28 | Crofton|work | http://sourceforge.net/projects/openzaurus/ |
| 16:27.33 | hrw | CosmicPenguin: thats why I ask kergoth as he is oldest |
| 16:27.48 | hrw | or at least one of oldest |
| 16:27.54 | kergoth | could ask schurig, he and i both acted against the initial repo |
| 16:27.57 | kergoth | at the same time |
| 16:28.06 | kergoth | he pulled in the initial portage code, and i hacked it into being functional |
| 16:28.20 | Crofton|work | http://openzaurus.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/openzaurus/buildroot-oz/ |
| 16:28.34 | hrw | Crofton|work: buildroot-oz was before OE |
| 16:28.44 | kergoth | oh wow, the buildroot-oz, that brings back memories |
| 16:28.48 | kergoth | haha, last update 6 years ago |
| 16:28.50 | hrw | Crofton|work: OE became because buildroot was crap |
| 16:29.01 | Crofton|work | this is where I get searching for openzaurus on sf.net |
| 16:29.06 | kergoth | pretty sure buildroot-oz was the first buildroot to ever get make menuconfig |
| 16:29.13 | Genesis | this is why we should be clean on OE |
| 16:29.14 | hrw | plaed with builtroot-oz for 1-2 days before found OE |
| 16:29.31 | Genesis | refuses undocumented bbclass for example |
| 16:29.50 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: yeah - thats right |
| 16:29.58 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: before that, it was just the monolithic makefile for tuxscreen |
| 16:30.00 | hrw | heh.. I was such n00b then... |
| 16:30.09 | Crofton|work | http://sourceforge.net/projects/openembedded/ |
| 16:30.11 | kergoth | course buildroot-oz isn't as clean as the new ones are, since the new versions of make let you define rules in a variable |
| 16:30.14 | zecke | hrw: I don't speak german as well |
| 16:30.33 | Genesis | zecke : do you plan to write new architecture document for bitbake ? |
| 16:30.39 | zecke | shoragan: which bugs? |
| 16:30.41 | zecke | Genesis: no |
| 16:31.18 | CosmicPenguin | I totally can't believe the tuxscreen website is still up |
| 16:31.28 | Genesis | oki , i wonder if coming at fosdem is very useful for OE developemetn |
| 16:31.30 | zecke | hehe, tim rikers is still there |
| 16:31.54 | zecke | shoragan: what did you fix? |
| 16:31.56 | hrw | Genesis: it is useful to meet there |
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| 16:32.01 | kergoth | yeah, from the copy/paste of the tuxscreen buildroot main makefile, thast why his copyright is there |
| 16:32.04 | kergoth | eh |
| 16:32.07 | Crofton|work | fosdem is a good place to meet many OE people |
| 16:32.12 | kergoth | 6 years 8 months ago was the initial commit of hte oz buildroot |
| 16:32.12 | kergoth | wild |
| 16:33.04 | Crofton|work | hmmm, http://www.fosdem.org/2009/node/150 |
| 16:33.06 | hrw | Crofton|work: and drink beer |
| 16:33.20 | CosmicPenguin | http://tuxscreen.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/Makefile?revision=1.1.1.1&view=markup |
| 16:33.32 | CosmicPenguin | There is the ancestor of all things OE |
| 16:33.38 | Crofton|work | um beer |
| 16:33.59 | kergoth | chuckles |
| 16:34.00 | Sup3rkiddo | removes beer from his highlight list |
| 16:34.17 | Crofton|work | urg, a Makfile ... |
| 16:34.29 | zecke | kergoth: :) |
| 16:34.31 | kergoth | wonders if the original wiki pages from the oe brainstorming on irc are still around |
| 16:34.35 | zecke | shoragan: what bugs did you fix? |
| 16:34.40 | Crofton|work | this year I am printing a list of beers and sticking to the low alcohol ones |
| 16:34.47 | thebohemian | "Initial import of my nifty buildsystem" :-) |
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| 16:35.10 | shoragan | zecke, the regex did not match all authors, so some mtn ids were leaking through |
| 16:35.34 | CosmicPenguin | ahhh... memories |
| 16:35.39 | CosmicPenguin | wipes away a tear |
| 16:38.22 | zecke | shoragan: thanks so much :) |
| 16:39.47 | shoragan | zecke, i think we can even use this dryrun |
| 16:39.59 | shoragan | i don't have any more changes pending |
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| 16:45.01 | hrw | someone remember how to make Scheduler in buildbot which will be possible to start from web client? |
| 16:45.05 | [X]Spoty | Crofton|work hhi |
| 16:45.33 | [X]Spoty | I removed vlc from my box, and then tried to install the compiled one with OE : opkg install vlc_0.9.2-r1_armv7a.ip but receive |
| 16:45.39 | [X]Spoty | * Package vlc md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'. |
| 16:45.43 | [X]Spoty | any ideas ? |
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| 16:49.47 | Crofton|work | try opkg update? |
| 16:49.50 | hrw | bye |
| 16:50.15 | hrw | or remove /var/lib/opkg/lists (or /usr/lib/opkg/lists/) contents before 'opkg install' |
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| 16:51.16 | zecke | wow I already locked me out of gitosis :) |
| 16:54.40 | [X]Spoty | opkg update, then remove /usr/lib/opkg/lists... but the same |
| 16:54.41 | [X]Spoty | oot@myhome:/packages# opkg install vlc_0.9.2-r1_armv7a.ipk |
| 16:54.41 | [X]Spoty | Multiple packages (vlc and vlc) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER. Using latest. |
| 16:57.33 | skrew | anyone know how to have ipsec in the kernel 2.6.22 for arm ? (using openembedded) ? pliiiize... i tried all patchs available on openswan site and i always got errors (never same error...) |
| 16:59.58 | pb_ | skrew: er, you shouldn't need openswan anymore. recent kernels have ipsec built in. |
| 17:00.22 | skrew | 2.6.22 are recent kernel ? |
| 17:00.25 | pb_ | just enable CONFIG_INET_AH, CONFIG_INET_ESP and so on |
| 17:00.27 | pb_ | recent enough, yes |
| 17:00.36 | skrew | thanks i try now |
| 17:01.14 | zecke | shoragan: you have setup gitosis? is there something special I have to do to the gitosis.conf? |
| 17:01.18 | [X]Spoty | hrw|gone |
| 17:01.21 | [X]Spoty | any ideas ? |
| 17:01.38 | shoragan | zecke, something special? |
| 17:01.58 | zecke | shoragan: I'm in the member list of gitosis-admin but can not push/clone anymore :) |
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| 17:02.52 | shoragan | zecke, gitosis-admin is a group like all others |
| 17:03.21 | shoragan | you need to have your name in a group that has the oe repo under writable |
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| 17:05.27 | zecke | shoragan: sure, that is with the theory, how to debug gitosis-serve? |
| 17:05.52 | shoragan | hmm, no idea |
| 17:06.13 | shoragan | i've got to go now |
| 17:10.53 | zecke | flood |
| 17:10.56 | zecke | DEBUG:gitosis.access.haveAccess:Access check for 'zecke' as 'readonly' on 'repositories/gitosis-admin.git'... |
| 17:10.59 | zecke | DEBUG:gitosis.access.haveAccess:Stripping .git suffix from 'repositories/gitosis-admin.git', new value 'repositories/gitosis-admin' |
| 17:11.03 | zecke | DEBUG:gitosis.group.getMembership:found 'zecke' in 'gitosis-admin' |
| 17:11.05 | zecke | DEBUG:gitosis.group.getMembership:found 'zecke' in 'oedev-developers' |
| 17:11.08 | zecke | ERROR:gitosis.serve.main:Repository read access denied |
| 17:11.10 | zecke | fun |
| 17:11.15 | pb_ | zecke: bad luck |
| 17:30.28 | zecke | ah it tries to be clever |
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| 17:46.38 | Kensan | skrew: you will still need an ike/keying-daemon though. |
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| 17:58.21 | skrew | Kensan: ok ... but i got all keys/config for openswan .. so i'm blocked now :( |
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| 18:18.17 | GNUtoo | how far is the git migration? |
| 18:18.58 | Tartarus | We're on the mtn is read-only step |
| 18:19.10 | GNUtoo | ok thanks |
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| 18:41.04 | yca | are there any packages depending on qt4? |
| 18:43.27 | woglinde | hm |
| 18:43.30 | woglinde | why you aksing? |
| 18:44.16 | yca | to learn how to use :) my problem is that I built qt4 and my image seems ok |
| 18:44.46 | yca | however I can not build my own applications due to missing(or incomplete) qmakespecs |
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| 18:47.27 | woglinde | yca hm |
| 18:47.42 | woglinde | could please pastebin your recipe? |
| 18:47.47 | woglinde | I could take short look |
| 18:48.49 | yca | I don't have a recipe, I'm trying to build my app outside of my oe tree |
| 18:49.04 | woglinde | ah okay |
| 18:49.06 | woglinde | sorry |
| 18:49.09 | yca | I'm using qmake-qt4 provided by oe in staging dir |
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| 18:49.37 | woglinde | hm and what is the problem? you dont have a good app.pro? |
| 18:51.23 | yca | when I invoke qmake it complains that it can not find good makespecs |
| 18:51.35 | woglinde | jepp |
| 18:51.43 | woglinde | you need a app.pro file |
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| 18:52.12 | woglinde | hm and qmake do not has the paths |
| 18:52.15 | Kensan | skrew: for test purposes you could do manually keyed sa's via setkey |
| 18:52.36 | yca | no, I have an app.pro file, besides I build my app dozens time before |
| 18:53.00 | yca | only this time I'm trying to use qt4 provided by oe |
| 18:53.07 | woglinde | yca you could look at org.openembedded.dev/classes/qmake2.bbclass |
| 18:53.21 | woglinde | but I suggest write a recpie |
| 18:53.23 | woglinde | its easier |
| 18:53.30 | woglinde | then do all the stuff by hand |
| 18:54.24 | woglinde | yca and look at org.openembedded.dev/classes/qmake_base.bbclass |
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| 18:55.43 | Kensan | skrew: try the ipsec-tools package instead of openswan and use in-kernel ipsec. |
| 18:56.19 | yca | ok I see it now, I should have used linux-oe-g++ not linux-oe-g++ |
| 18:56.46 | yca | ok, I'm going to write recipe for this. thanks for the help |
| 18:57.25 | woglinde | yca :) |
| 18:58.16 | yca | now you see that I'm confused, second one must be linux-arm-g++ |
| 18:58.32 | woglinde | hm its only a symlink |
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| 19:02.07 | woglinde | he florian |
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| 19:03.35 | echelon | i can't find the bitbake files for PhoneME |
| 19:03.46 | woglinde | echelon???? |
| 19:03.52 | woglinde | are you using stable or dev? |
| 19:03.58 | echelon | stable |
| 19:04.00 | woglinde | phoneme is only in dev |
| 19:04.05 | echelon | ah, thanks |
| 19:04.40 | flo_lap | re |
| 19:04.43 | woglinde | hms now it is clear while debian is not failing on e2fsprogs an MKINSTALLDIR |
| 19:04.47 | woglinde | they don use it |
| 19:04.55 | woglinde | and use theire install routine |
| 19:04.56 | woglinde | hahah |
| 19:05.09 | GNUtoo | hello, what are .macro pld reg ? |
| 19:05.19 | echelon | has anyone tried to use midpath on their device? |
| 19:05.22 | woglinde | guntoo assembler? |
| 19:05.25 | GNUtoo | theses are macros in an arm assembly file... |
| 19:05.26 | woglinde | echelon yes |
| 19:05.33 | woglinde | midpath runs fine on u386 |
| 19:05.35 | echelon | woglinde: what vm did you try? |
| 19:05.36 | GNUtoo | but where do i find infos on how they works |
| 19:05.43 | woglinde | cacao |
| 19:05.47 | woglinde | and java-se |
| 19:05.51 | echelon | ah, i guess i should try that |
| 19:05.57 | woglinde | opera mini is running |
| 19:06.01 | echelon | nice! |
| 19:06.06 | echelon | that's what i wanted to use lol |
| 19:06.09 | woglinde | hehe |
| 19:06.18 | echelon | java-se is in dev? :\ |
| 19:06.25 | woglinde | echelon nope |
| 19:06.36 | woglinde | only cacao and jamvm |
| 19:06.42 | GNUtoo | it's for the mplayer patch...they don't want #ifdef HAVE_ARMV5TE |
| 19:06.43 | woglinde | with classpath |
| 19:06.55 | woglinde | gnutoo why this? |
| 19:06.55 | echelon | ah, gotcha |
| 19:07.20 | GNUtoo | woglinde, because 1)it's ugly 2) HAVE_ARMV5TE is not defined |
| 19:07.31 | woglinde | GNUtoo hehe this you didnt say |
| 19:08.30 | GNUtoo | s/not defined/not defined when compiling the assembly file |
| 19:12.32 | echelon | woglinde: how do you bind the keys? |
| 19:14.35 | woglinde | echelon mouse and keyboard |
| 19:15.19 | echelon | i mean, how do you set the keys when using midp apps |
| 19:15.56 | echelon | i don't have a working mouse on my device |
| 19:16.08 | woglinde | hm what a device you have? |
| 19:16.15 | woglinde | touchscreen is working too |
| 19:16.21 | echelon | http://openzipit.org/ |
| 19:16.25 | echelon | the z2 |
| 19:16.27 | woglinde | virtual keyboard I do not know |
| 19:16.33 | woglinde | just try it |
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| 19:17.25 | zecke | moin |
| 19:17.30 | echelon | guten morgen |
| 19:17.37 | woglinde | re zecke |
| 19:18.46 | zecke | ~moin |
| 19:18.47 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, moin is North German for everything you would say for salutatory, or http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinWiki |
| 19:19.15 | zecke | woglinde: I don't have your ssh key |
| 19:19.47 | woglinde | zecke I know |
| 19:19.57 | woglinde | will mail you one |
| 19:20.01 | woglinde | in the near future |
| 19:24.20 | echelon | wtf |
| 19:24.39 | echelon | i'm bitbaking classpath, and it's downloading Python |
| 19:24.51 | echelon | why does gnu classpath need Python? |
| 19:26.50 | woglinde | hm than there is dependency of the dependency in classpath to python |
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| 19:41.24 | zecke | shoragan: I miss your ssh key :) |
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| 19:48.52 | kergoth | http://code.google.com/p/stablebox/ looks interesting |
| 19:53.21 | woglinde | hoi kergoth |
| 19:54.09 | CosmicPenguin | like busybox has churned that much since |
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| 20:08.50 | echelon | cp -fpPR /tmp/ZipitZ2/tmp-zipit2-angstrom/work/i686-linux/cacao-initial-0.98-r0/temp-staging//tmp/ZipitZ2/tmp-zipit2-angstrom/staging/i686-linux/lib/* /tmp/ZipitZ2/tmp-zipit2-angstrom/staging/i686-linux/lib |
| 20:08.54 | echelon | cp: cannot stat `/tmp/ZipitZ2/tmp-zipit2-angstrom/work/i686-linux/cacao-initial-0.98-r0/temp-staging//tmp/ZipitZ2/tmp-zipit2-angstrom/staging/i686-linux/lib/*': No such file or directory |
| 20:09.21 | echelon | what do i do? |
| 20:09.48 | echelon | ERROR: '/tmp/ZipitZ2/meta/packages/cacao/cacao-initial_0.98.bb' failed |
| 20:10.00 | woglinde | aeh |
| 20:10.07 | woglinde | the dir seems falss |
| 20:10.15 | woglinde | /tmp/ZipitZ2/tmp-zipit2-angstrom/work/i686-linux/cacao-initial-0.98-r0/temp-staging//tmp/ZipitZ2/tmp-zipit2-angstrom/staging/i686-linux/lib/* |
| 20:10.20 | woglinde | cant be a right dir |
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| 20:13.51 | woglinde | hi ant |
| 20:14.04 | ant__ | hi |
| 20:14.08 | ant__ | ahrgh |
| 20:14.12 | ant__ | last gift from mtn |
| 20:14.14 | ant__ | mtn: 5f2600b1acc33de2cbb3e1f80dfa05badd4beec1 koen@openembedded.org 2008-10-14T11:55:02 |
| 20:14.16 | ant__ | mtn: choose one with 'mtn update -r<id>' |
| 20:14.18 | ant__ | mtn: error: multiple update candidates remain after selection |
| 20:14.41 | ant__ | wasn't it read only? |
| 20:16.25 | ant__ | wanted to keep the last OE.mtn for the posterity... |
| 20:17.14 | echelon | woglinde: how would i fix it? |
| 20:17.22 | zecke_ | brb |
| 20:22.04 | woglinde | wanted to keep the last OE.mtn for the posterity... |
| 20:22.07 | woglinde | args |
| 20:22.15 | woglinde | echelon do you now have .dev? |
| 20:22.33 | echelon | nope, stable |
| 20:23.10 | woglinde | then I can not help you |
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| 20:23.20 | echelon | :\ |
| 20:23.23 | woglinde | because I do not have the time to mess with stable |
| 20:23.24 | echelon | very well |
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| 20:23.25 | woglinde | re lorn |
| 20:23.27 | woglinde | re zecke |
| 20:24.54 | woglinde | hm I wonder where the qt extended image for the greenphone is |
| 20:26.28 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yea, the fork was relatively recent. not a bad concept in general though, lots of distros end up doing the same thing anyway |
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| 20:30.08 | echelon | i guess stable isn't so stable |
| 20:31.01 | skrew | what i can use for syslogd ? syslog-ng don't work (missing libglib dep) |
| 20:32.52 | zecke | hates runsv |
| 20:33.27 | Crofton|work | zecke, how goes the git work? |
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| 20:34.09 | zecke | is getting annoyed with runsv as it does not honor common init practices |
| 20:34.28 | Jay7 | zecke: runit? |
| 20:34.37 | denix|eee | Crofton|work: relax, it´s not Wednesday yetãï¼ï¼ |
| 20:35.05 | Crofton|work | he has 3.5 hours :) |
| 20:35.06 | zecke | Jay7: no idea, I'm on a gprs line... I have no fun to read any man page |
| 20:35.31 | Jay7 | as I remember runsv is subpart of runit :) |
| 20:35.37 | Crofton|work | although I think zecke is defining his own time |
| 20:36.14 | Jay7 | and yes, it's does not honor init practices :) |
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| 20:36.25 | zecke | just deleted the service |
| 20:39.57 | woglinde | hihi |
| 20:39.59 | woglinde | use minit |
| 20:40.04 | zecke | kicks runsv |
| 20:41.22 | Jay7 | have some ideas about right and fast init scheme.. |
| 20:41.40 | woglinde | Jay7 hehe |
| 20:42.07 | Jay7 | may be we make some prototype under FreeBSD |
| 20:43.58 | Jay7 | launchd from MacOS X is interesting thing |
| 20:44.07 | zecke | likes the freebsd shutdown |
| 20:44.27 | zecke | SIGTERM, sleep, SIGKILL, flush buffers, flush buffers, shut off |
| 20:45.50 | zecke | okay |
| 20:46.22 | woglinde | Jay7 I find the init system from sun intressting |
| 20:46.35 | mwester | likes Linksys' modified busybox "halt" command (for the NSLU2) -- "halt" does nothing at all except turn off a gpio that kills the power. |
| 20:46.35 | zecke | 1) everything converted 2) I have commit access 3) gitweb is there 4) wiki updated 5) git-daemon serves |
| 20:46.43 | zecke | I think I will go to bed now |
| 20:47.30 | cbrake | zecke: thanks! I'm glad to see this happening. |
| 20:47.58 | woglinde | hm |
| 20:48.07 | woglinde | should I fast send my key to zecke |
| 20:48.42 | woglinde | sleep well zecke |
| 20:49.22 | zecke | git fast-send |
| 20:49.48 | zecke | cbrake: You could test if git clone works for you... I will let the dust settle though and not send an announcement |
| 20:50.05 | cbrake | zecke: will do |
| 20:50.33 | zecke | there is one hook i would like to add... |
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| 20:53.14 | woglinde | zecke wait |
| 20:53.19 | woglinde | I will send it now |
| 20:53.22 | ant__ | zecke: what am I doing wrong? warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. |
| 20:53.45 | zecke | ant__: ? |
| 20:53.55 | ant__ | git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev |
| 20:54.00 | ant__ | cd /oe/org.openembedded.dev git pull --rebase |
| 20:54.34 | zecke | the tiral and the final result have nothing in common |
| 20:55.08 | ant__ | http://rafb.net/p/hrQiPp86.html |
| 20:55.10 | zecke | ant__: you can help and write some howto use git-rebase to go from trial to final system |
| 20:55.53 | ant__ | fun is I was inkitially following 4ngstr=m howto |
| 20:55.57 | woglinde | zecke send |
| 20:56.04 | zecke | woglinde: sent you mean? |
| 20:57.19 | shoragan | zecke, du muss HEAD auf dem git-server anpassen |
| 20:57.27 | ant__ | http://groups.google.com/group/github/browse_thread/thread/eb3046a7b4c8bec7 |
| 20:57.33 | shoragan | und ich würde das repo nicht so wie einen branch nennen |
| 20:57.50 | shoragan | arg, german again :) |
| 20:58.01 | ant__ | kein Problem ;-) |
| 20:58.02 | zecke | shoragan: just names :) |
| 20:58.43 | shoragan | because from now on there will be many org.oe.dev branches (one per repo) |
| 20:59.15 | zecke | shoragan: HEADS, ack |
| 20:59.38 | zecke | shoragan: repo name... hail-zecke would really sound better, good thinking! |
| 21:00.06 | shoragan | or just call it openembedded.git |
| 21:00.27 | zecke | shoragan: I assume we will rename the branches as well |
| 21:00.32 | ant__ | actually koen suggested git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev.git org.openembedded.stable |
| 21:00.42 | shoragan | the mtn-naming scheme doesn't make much sense anymore |
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| 21:01.19 | shoragan | ant__, doesn't make sense, you always get all branches |
| 21:01.20 | Jay7 | seems that all progressive peoples going to git :) |
| 21:01.37 | Jay7 | should I do? :) |
| 21:03.25 | woglinde | jay7 yes |
| 21:03.37 | shoragan | zecke, HEAD is still wrong |
| 21:03.39 | Jay7 | is there any manual? :) |
| 21:03.44 | woglinde | jay7 sure |
| 21:03.46 | woglinde | google |
| 21:03.52 | zecke | shoragan: I'm on GPRS... |
| 21:03.56 | Jay7 | hehe :) |
| 21:04.01 | woglinde | jay7 but its nearly the same as mtn |
| 21:04.09 | woglinde | clone pull update |
| 21:04.28 | shoragan | ant__, is that your commit? |
| 21:04.31 | shoragan | http://git.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git;a=commit;h=309c832c2c21ceb97fd589ebce8327d0d2bba731 |
| 21:04.35 | zecke | ?karma shoragan |
| 21:04.47 | shoragan | karma? |
| 21:04.51 | zecke | %karma shoragan |
| 21:05.20 | ant__ | shabble_: he, no, was committed by thesing |
| 21:05.25 | Jay7 | is going to migrate to git |
| 21:05.29 | ant__ | shoragan: _: he, no, was committed by thesing |
| 21:05.33 | zecke | shoragan: karma points... I would give you karma for fixing mtn2git and remove some because you annoy me :) |
| 21:06.05 | zecke | shoragan: org.openembedded.dev is a good default? |
| 21:06.11 | shoragan | ant__, i mean if you were the author |
| 21:06.17 | shoragan | zecke, yes, i think so |
| 21:06.24 | ant__ | shoragan: me and Jay7 |
| 21:06.42 | pb_ | kergoth: yah, stablebox does look interesting. it always takes me about a week to psych myself up to install any new busybox version, and about a week afterwards to calm down. |
| 21:06.58 | zecke | shoragan: oh you left unknown.openembedded.org? I thought you want invalid? |
| 21:07.06 | pb_ | not good for my heart, anything that reduces the adrenaline shock must be good news |
| 21:07.08 | kergoth | busybox is just so central to a functional system,i think everyone is paranoid about upgrading it, like upgrading the libc |
| 21:07.14 | pb_ | right |
| 21:07.15 | shoragan | zecke, there were only 3 or 4 left, so i didn't change them |
| 21:07.31 | ant__ | zecke: shoragan: use the committer name |
| 21:07.35 | zecke | ~help |
| 21:07.37 | pb_ | it's even worse than libc in that busybox does tend much more to random churn. |
| 21:07.59 | shoragan | ant__, no, i'll need some mapping for the author |
| 21:08.08 | pb_ | I keep finding that some previously-standard feature that we really depend on is now optional and buried five levels down in cryptic config options. |
| 21:08.38 | zecke | ~shoragan++ for fixing the firt mtn2git bug with git-reset |
| 21:09.05 | zecke | ~shoragan++ for finding out that git-fast-import got improved |
| 21:09.14 | zecke | ~shoragan++ for tackling the task |
| 21:09.16 | zecke | ~karma shoragan |
| 21:09.16 | ibot | shoragan has neutral karma |
| 21:09.23 | zecke | wtf |
| 21:09.29 | shoragan | maybe someone can fix the missing email adresses in http://git.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git;a=blob;f=contrib/mtn2git/manglenames.py;hb=HEAD |
| 21:09.48 | zecke | ibot: shoragan++ |
| 21:09.49 | zecke | ~karma shoragan |
| 21:09.49 | ibot | shoragan has karma of 1 |
| 21:09.53 | shoragan | even if not i'm rather happy |
| 21:10.05 | Jay7 | hm |
| 21:10.30 | Jay7 | I've fixed my item already on wiki |
| 21:10.48 | Jay7 | seem I've did this too late :) |
| 21:10.52 | shoragan | ah, maybe i'll take a look tomorrow |
| 21:10.53 | shoragan | :) |
| 21:10.59 | shoragan | or not ;) |
| 21:11.09 | shoragan | good night anyway |
| 21:11.13 | ant__ | shoragan: reuse 'ant' for Jay / Yuri |
| 21:11.15 | Jay7 | s/"jay4mail"/"Yuri Bushmelev"/ :) |
| 21:11.18 | zecke | shoragan: wait :) |
| 21:11.33 | shoragan | it all depends on if zecke announces that git is r/w |
| 21:11.35 | zecke | shoragan: HEAD is fixed, repo renamed, everything looks fine right? |
| 21:12.15 | shoragan | zecke, yes, just some minor missing mappings... |
| 21:12.25 | ant__ | shoragan: I'm already there (Andrea A.) |
| 21:12.26 | shoragan | i don't mind either way |
| 21:13.32 | zecke | shoragan: well, people were late... I think it is okay |
| 21:13.37 | ant__ | zecke: oops fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 21:13.39 | shoragan | ok |
| 21:16.05 | shoragan | ok, checkout works :) |
| 21:16.47 | shoragan | good night, zecke, everyone |
| 21:18.02 | woglinde | nitr shoragan |
| 21:19.16 | ant__ | Jay7: mizar ~ # emerge --unmerge monotone |
| 21:19.23 | ant__ | :-) |
| 21:19.52 | Jay7 | ant__: 'apt-get remove' now :) |
| 21:20.22 | ant__ | removing is quicker in Gentoo :-D |
| 21:20.41 | Jay7 | :) |
| 21:21.37 | ant__ | Jay7: do you think we would ever need some indexing service like 'beagle' on Zaurus? It is about ext3 extended attributes |
| 21:22.19 | Jay7 | we have no enough RAM :) |
| 21:22.55 | Jay7 | 129 packets transmitted, 91 received, 29% packet loss |
| 21:22.56 | Jay7 | :( |
| 21:23.12 | Jay7 | my ISP have problems.. |
| 21:23.13 | CIA-3 | 03Cliff Brake <cbrake@bec-systems.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r2660ba617f 10org.openembedded.dev.git/conf/machine/cm-x270.conf: cm-x270.conf: test edit in new git repo |
| 21:24.02 | ant__ | Jay7: ok, I'll do some minimal defconfigs changes then (+CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y +CONFIG_JBD=y) |
| 21:24.41 | Jay7 | ant__: I think it's enough for beginning :) |
| 21:24.43 | zecke | hehe |
| 21:25.01 | ant__ | and about usb? Not sure is possible on c7x0... |
| 21:25.20 | ant__ | (booting from usb) |
| 21:25.23 | Jay7 | hm.. |
| 21:25.37 | ant__ | but other models in theory... |
| 21:25.55 | Jay7 | it can be possible in theory on C1000/C3xxx |
| 21:26.29 | Jay7 | can you check size difference with usb subsystem enabled? |
| 21:26.42 | ant__ | he..could be huge... |
| 21:26.58 | ant__ | I'll do some tests |
| 21:26.59 | Jay7 | hm.. |
| 21:28.04 | Jay7 | I know no one who asks about booting zaurus from usb |
| 21:28.24 | ant__ | not only Zaurus, but the name is koen ;-) |
| 21:28.33 | Jay7 | only when usb flash is soldered in :) |
| 21:29.08 | Jay7 | ok |
| 21:29.23 | Jay7 | we can provide some option in machine/local.conf |
| 21:29.37 | Jay7 | like ENABLE_USB_BOOTING=yes :) |
| 21:30.02 | Jay7 | for peoples who real wants this |
| 21:30.13 | ant__ | well, with the actual sdhc 8gb..usb keys are less attractive for handelds |
| 21:30.14 | Jay7 | but kernel size should be checked.. |
| 21:30.35 | Jay7 | yep |
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| 21:35.04 | cbrake | ponders the historic moment -- OE has switched to git :-) |
| 21:35.43 | woglinde | vbrake *g* |
| 21:35.47 | woglinde | ups |
| 21:35.48 | woglinde | cbrake |
| 21:36.40 | skrew | how i can find in what "packages" i can find a command ? EG i want real awk, not the busybox one, how i can compilate real awk |
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| 21:37.14 | cbrake | skrew: find -name "*awk*" |
| 21:37.29 | cbrake | skrew: bitbake gawk |
| 21:37.47 | skrew | i have make gawk .. i can just ln -s awk gawk ? |
| 21:38.35 | skrew | ok yes i can ... :) thanks |
| 21:38.50 | cbrake | skrew: good. some of the packages use update-alternatives to do this type of linking |
| 21:39.11 | cbrake | skrew: so that could probably be added in this case if someone really wanted it |
| 21:39.19 | skrew | ok thanks |
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| 22:08.36 | ant__ | zecke: Anonymous clone seems not working |
| 22:11.09 | Jay7 | ok, I have installed git :) |
| 22:11.24 | Jay7 | where to get repository? :) |
| 22:11.38 | ant__ | http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Git |
| 22:12.55 | Jay7 | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 22:13.53 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.32 | ant__ | <zecke> shoragan: HEAD is fixed, repo renamed, everything looks fine right? |
| 22:14.36 | ant__ | ?? |
| 22:14.57 | woglinde | ant__ ??? |
| 22:15.12 | ant__ | one hour ago I could pull |
| 22:15.19 | woglinde | i could clone both types |
| 22:15.19 | ant__ | now ...hung up |
| 22:16.07 | ant__ | atal: Unable to look up (port 9418) (Name or service not known) |
| 22:16.35 | ant__ | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 22:16.43 | woglinde | hm |
| 22:16.46 | Jay7 | I have same error |
| 22:16.52 | ant__ | too old git? |
| 22:16.56 | Jay7 | with git clone |
| 22:17.02 | woglinde | dont know |
| 22:17.13 | woglinde | git version 1.5.6.5 |
| 22:17.13 | Jay7 | git version 1.5.5.5.GIT |
| 22:17.45 | woglinde | zecke is at sleep right now |
| 22:17.57 | Jay7 | ok |
| 22:17.59 | ant__ | [ebuild R ] dev-util/git-1.5.6.4 |
| 22:19.47 | ant__ | Jay7: reading here http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitFaq |
| 22:21.11 | skrew | kensan ? |
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| 22:23.06 | skrew | pb ? |
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| 22:24.56 | skrew | thanks all .. i finally got openswan working without patching kernel :) |
| 22:25.38 | woglinde | skrew hm |
| 22:25.52 | woglinde | I found strongswan a little bit better |
| 22:26.45 | skrew | woglinde: maybe ... but openswan are on the "requirement" list... so i use openswan ... :) |
| 22:27.34 | Jay7 | -> sleep |
| 22:28.20 | woglinde | requirement ? |
| 22:28.34 | ant__ | bye Jay |
| 22:29.11 | skrew | woglinde: yep i help a friend who develop a card for his society |
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| 22:42.02 | woglinde | good nite |
| 22:42.12 | ant__ | nite |
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| 22:46.11 | ant__ | ok, for the memory, after the renaming the correct command seems to be: $ git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded.git |
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| 22:48.34 | LaF0rge | the e2fsprogs mkinstalldirs.patch not only breaks slugos but also openmoko builds |
| 22:50.57 | ant__ | actually, the old behaviour is obtained by: git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded.git /oe/org.openembedded.dev |
| 22:51.50 | rwhitby | mwester: thx for looking after the nslu2 repo during the switch |
| 23:03.16 | mwester | np :) I'm looking forward to git. |
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| 23:12.50 | ant__ | good night |
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