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| 01:48.05 | CIA-3 | 03zecke123 * r1093 10bitbake/ (ChangeLog lib/bb/utils.py): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:48.05 | CIA-3 | [bb.utils] Make prunedir cope with symlinks to directories |
| 01:48.05 | CIA-3 | 2008-10-07 Julian Chu <Julian_Chu@openmoko.com> |
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| 01:56.55 | CIA-3 | [bb.utils] Make prunedir cope with symlinks to directories |
| 01:56.56 | CIA-3 | 2008-10-07 Julian Chu <Julian_Chu@openmoko.com> |
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| 07:54.43 | Genesis | bonjour |
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| 08:28.11 | hrw | morning |
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| 08:39.07 | [X]Spot | good morning |
| 08:39.10 | [X]Spot | If i did all the steps here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-%C3%A5ngstr%C3%B6m then how can I build a package (vlc for example) using my cutom configuration settings ? |
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| 08:40.51 | mifritscher | hi |
| 08:41.03 | mifritscher | found a litle problem in the modell j7xx |
| 08:41.15 | mifritscher | one link is wrong |
| 08:41.28 | mifritscher | it refers to http://kernel.org//pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/patch-2.6.19-rc6.bz2;patch=1 |
| 08:41.45 | mifritscher | but should link to http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/testing/v2.6.19/patch-2.6.19-rc6.bz2 |
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| 08:50.13 | [X]Spot | mifritscher |
| 08:50.15 | [X]Spot | If i did all the steps here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-%C3%A5ngstr%C3%B6m then how can I build a package (vlc for example) using my cutom configuration settings ? |
| 08:51.46 | mifritscher | normally bitbake vlc |
| 08:51.51 | mifritscher | but I'm a beginner, too^^ |
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| 08:54.54 | [X]Spot | :) |
| 08:55.16 | [X]Spot | thanks |
| 08:55.23 | [X]Spot | Do you have any doc about this ? |
| 09:10.23 | steliosk | morning all ! |
| 09:11.58 | steliosk | does anyone know if setting a var with bb.data.setVar is actually a local reference of the var or other modules get to see the modified var ? My tests up till now show that all modifications are local (i.e withing the .bb that changes the var) and other modules see the "original" values. |
| 09:12.11 | CIA-3 | 03 <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r73984c9666 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/python/python-native_2.5.1.bb: python-native: attempt to fix python-native build (it's more of a python-cross builds now) |
| 09:12.15 | steliosk | That said my python knowledge is at the 101 level |
| 09:12.21 | CIA-3 | 03 <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9fd4cc281c 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/linux/ (linux-omap/dvb-fix-dma.diff linux-omap_git.bb): linux omap git: add patch that should make dvb behave better on arm, it doesn't fix the oops in the dma code |
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| 09:19.06 | CIA-3 | 03 <mickeyl@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * re4d8365ce5 10org.openembedded.dev.git/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gpe-sketchbook: add missing dependency (patch by raster), stylize, convert SVN build to SRCREV |
| 09:19.07 | CIA-3 | 03 <mickeyl@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6ae564fa4a 10org.openembedded.dev.git/: |
| 09:19.07 | CIA-3 | merge of '1ad3e9affaa2235122936cd88f0c15b045a4ac3b' |
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| 09:25.44 | CIA-3 | 03 <mickeyl@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * recbba2eac1 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/ttf-fonts/ttf-liberation_0.2.bb: ttf-liberation 0.2 apply enlightenment/TMP/oe/patches/0005-fix-src_uri-because-redhat-moved-original-files-away.patch (from raster) |
| 09:26.58 | steliosk | ~ping RP |
| 09:26.59 | ibot | pong RP |
| 09:29.21 | zecke | steliosk: yes, they are all local |
| 09:29.35 | zecke | steliosk: only "config" time parsing is inherited by everything else |
| 09:29.58 | steliosk | zecke : Is there a way to make "global" changes from within a package ? |
| 09:30.20 | zecke | steliosk: not in a sane way |
| 09:30.41 | zecke | steliosk: the approach other use is to store stuff in the TMPDIR |
| 09:31.25 | steliosk | zecke : any example of a package that uses it ? |
| 09:31.43 | zecke | steliosk: the shared lib magic in a bbclass is doing it :) |
| 09:31.52 | zecke | steliosk: or kernel version is read from the tmpdir |
| 09:32.25 | steliosk | looking |
| 09:34.07 | Genesis | don't hesitate to write such documentation on http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Bitbake ;-) |
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| 09:38.22 | CIA-3 | 03 <mickeyl@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r39d11c4b03 10org.openembedded.dev.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs: add SRCREVs for Enlightenment ST stuff (from raster) |
| 09:43.14 | steliosk | thinks his python "kung fu" is weak |
| 09:44.52 | CIA-3 | 03 <mickeyl@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rc7ec367c3a 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/e17/e-wm_svn.bb: e-wm svn apply 0012-disable-no-cursor-patch-will-break-e-now-that-its.patch (from raster) |
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| 10:11.14 | steliosk | zecke : How difficult will be to get bitbake to support "global" vars ? |
| 10:11.42 | steliosk | zecke : The other option i see is to get a bbclass to handle read/writting to tmpdir |
| 10:13.36 | hrw | fscking monotone |
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| 10:30.51 | zecke | steliosk: hard, the question is how long should they live? |
| 10:32.08 | steliosk | zecke : globals should live for ever i.e reset during bitbakes start and let packages set them. kind of "shared memory" |
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| 10:34.06 | zecke | steliosk: you would want to have the same state between restarts and this is where it gets messy |
| 10:53.50 | Crofton|work | zecke, the public key I use on amethyst is suitable for git? |
| 11:00.00 | zecke | Crofton|work: no :) |
| 11:00.17 | Crofton|work | ok |
| 11:00.37 | Crofton|work | make a special git key with ssh? |
| 11:01.12 | zecke | Crofton|work: no, just send it to us, I think we need to put that into gitosis |
| 11:01.27 | Crofton|work | the amethyst one |
| 11:01.38 | Crofton|work | I'd prefer to not have too many keys :) |
| 11:02.45 | zecke | Crofton|work: yes, but I'm too lazy to search it :) |
| 11:18.13 | CIA-3 | 03 <mickeyl@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8b4f045ed8 10org.openembedded.dev.git/ (5 files in 2 dirs): update FSO stuff: frameworkd, mickeydbus, mickeyterm, zhone |
| 11:18.15 | CIA-3 | 03 <mickeyl@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra1fc9cc99e 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/freesmartphone/ (frameworkd_git.bb mickeydbus_git.bb): frameworkd,mickeydbus: needing pprint now (no PR increase, same push) |
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| 11:28.03 | hrw | iirc I sent mine |
| 11:29.12 | Crofton|work | goes down to the nw store and gets a key made |
| 11:29.19 | Crofton|work | er hardware store |
| 11:33.50 | dcordes | is git broken? |
| 11:34.39 | zecke | dcordes: git the tool? |
| 11:37.36 | Jin^eLD | re |
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| 12:07.25 | Jin^eLD | can OE unpack an .src.rpm? |
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| 12:10.58 | Genesis | perharps base_srpm.bbclass |
| 12:11.11 | Genesis | ;) |
| 12:11.14 | Jin^eLD | that's what my grep returned as well |
| 12:11.21 | Jin^eLD | I was looking at rpm_xxx.bb |
| 12:11.25 | Jin^eLD | and it did not inherit anything special |
| 12:11.34 | Jin^eLD | but it gets an src.rpm from ftp |
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| 12:11.48 | Jin^eLD | it had a double do_unpack, to unpack the tar that was in the rpm, but I could not see any special stuff for unpacking the src rpm |
| 12:13.07 | Genesis | sure , anonymous undocumented bbclass doesn't help |
| 12:13.14 | Jin^eLD | that's not really it, it does unpack the rpm |
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| 12:35.32 | drakou | hi |
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| 12:44.02 | drakou | I am new to OE, and I have a little question. I would like to build a target image for an embedded device , but I need to select packages. WHere can i find a tutorial or documentation that could help me to add a new machine and distro to OE ? |
| 12:44.23 | drakou | My target is a Freescale i.MX27 on a custom board ( WDG-002 ). |
| 12:44.53 | Genesis | lucky boy |
| 12:45.18 | Genesis | my very old french doc if you want |
| 12:45.38 | Genesis | http://www.scourge.fr/mathdesc/documents/NotesPaperBook.html |
| 12:45.44 | Genesis | on i.mx21 |
| 12:45.54 | hrw | drakou: http://pokylinux.org/handbook/ |
| 12:46.10 | drakou | thanks :) |
| 12:47.06 | Genesis | drakou : start on a angstrom distro that you 'll derive for custom it |
| 12:48.02 | drakou | hrw , your link is dead |
| 12:48.23 | drakou | http://www.pokylinux.org/doc/poky-handbook.html |
| 12:48.28 | Genesis | documentation is on wiki ... |
| 12:48.28 | drakou | the right one |
| 12:48.58 | drakou | so my DISTO is : DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" |
| 12:49.16 | drakou | and Machine ? I need to create a new machine file, I can't see the i.MX27 |
| 12:49.35 | Genesis | you need yes |
| 12:49.58 | Genesis | exept if you're running an already supported one |
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| 13:25.20 | shoragan | RP, ping? |
| 13:28.26 | drakou | humm , little problem : /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr is not 0. This will cause problems with qemu so please fix the value (as root). |
| 13:28.31 | drakou | I can't change that value .. |
| 13:30.29 | drakou | anyone could help ? |
| 13:31.21 | zecke | drakou: so? |
| 13:32.13 | drakou | I 've just installed OE and try to make an image : but bitbake x11-image returns the following |
| 13:32.21 | drakou | ERROR: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. |
| 13:32.22 | drakou | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.22 | drakou | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.22 | drakou | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.42 | XorA|gone | drakou: echo 0 >/proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr as root |
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| 13:33.58 | drakou | it's not working with sudo, it's strange ... |
| 13:34.15 | drakou | I did a sudo -s , and then the command and it's working |
| 13:34.16 | XorA | yeah, becuase the redirect is working on the sudo, not the echo |
| 13:34.32 | XorA | sudo doesnt run as root :-) |
| 13:36.59 | drakou | 3740 packages ... humm .. I thing I can take a break :p |
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| 13:57.28 | mifritscher | hi |
| 14:00.22 | mifritscher | got a compile during compiling: |
| 14:00.22 | mifritscher | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.22 | mifritscher | | inlined from 'collect_execute' at /mnt3/oe/build/tmp/work/arm-linux/gcc-cross-kernel-3.4.4-3.4.4-r11/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/collect2.c:1537: |
| 14:00.22 | mifritscher | | /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to '__open_missing_mode' declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in second argument needs 3 arguments |
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| 14:07.10 | CIA-3 | 03 <mickeyl@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r6ae73a87ee 10org.openembedded.dev.git/: |
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| 14:07.10 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:07.12 | CIA-3 | 03 <mickeyl@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7c7dd04703 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/freesmartphone/ (mickeydbus_git.bb mickeyterm_git.bb): mickey{dbus|term} git set PACKAGE_ARCH to all |
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| 14:07.46 | mifritscher | yes, it ises the HOSTs file |
| 14:08.58 | mifritscher | ah |
| 14:09.00 | mifritscher | see the problem |
| 14:09.02 | mifritscher | NOTE: multiple providers are available for linux-libc-headers (linux-libc-headers, external-toolchain); |
| 14:09.02 | mifritscher | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_linux-libc-headers |
| 14:11.37 | Jin^eLD | you'd have to wirte a multicast proxy for SSDP |
| 14:11.39 | Jin^eLD | oops wrong window |
| 14:11.40 | mifritscher | but why does it try to use external headers first? |
| 14:12.19 | jconnolly | hi all.. I'm trying to get aplay etc from alsa-utils to end up in my rootfs |
| 14:13.02 | jconnolly | I put it into my IMAGE_INSTALL, cleaned my rootfs build recipe and it builds alsa-utils and all of the packages, but I don't see them in my rootfs |
| 14:13.37 | jconnolly | and if I list each of the alsa-utils packages individually (alsa-utils-amixer) etc, it complains that no recipe exists for them |
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| 14:15.21 | jconnolly | any ideas? much appreciated |
| 14:17.44 | kalev | jconnolly: take a look at packages/alsa/alsa-utils_1.0.17.bb |
| 14:18.23 | kalev | jconnolly: seems alsa-utils is an empty package. What you need is alsa-utils-alsamixer, for example. Just look at the .bb file. |
| 14:18.45 | jconnolly | kalev: thanks I will. I have 1.0.11, 1.0.13 1.0.15 locally, I'll take a look in the repo |
| 14:19.12 | mifritscher | hmm, that wans't the problem |
| 14:19.20 | jconnolly | kalev: when I try to list these in a REQUIRES or IMAGE_INSTALL list, I get that they're unbuildable |
| 14:19.29 | jconnolly | I'll have a look at 1.0.17.bb |
| 14:25.18 | kalev | jconnolly: ah, I didn't notice you said it doesn't work if you list the packages individually, sorry :) |
| 14:26.35 | jconnolly | kalev: nm, if I list the individual packages in IMAGE_INSTALL it ends up in my rootfs |
| 14:26.39 | jconnolly | not in REQUIRES though |
| 14:26.42 | jconnolly | for other packages |
| 14:26.47 | jconnolly | this is good enough for now |
| 14:26.51 | jconnolly | thanks for your help. ;D |
| 14:28.24 | kalev | good! |
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| 15:47.25 | hrw | bye |
| 15:48.06 | otavio | zecke: will the "final" git tree be made available before next Wed? I mean the one that has the final metadata but is not yet fully synced with today's mtn? |
| 15:51.38 | otavio | zecke: I'd like to start to rebase the patches I against this one to merge them as soon as possible, after the full switch has happened. |
| 15:52.05 | otavio | s/patches I/patches I have/ |
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| 15:58.13 | kergoth | morning |
| 15:59.18 | zecke | kergoth: hey! |
| 15:59.35 | zecke | otavio: unlikely, the rebase should be easy |
| 16:00.10 | otavio | zecke: right. |
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| 16:22.23 | kgilmer | anyone worked on getting parrot (http://www.parrot.org/) into OE? |
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| 17:23.45 | [X]Spot | Hi all.. If i build vlc.. bitbake vlc.. and have error: No package 'fribidi' found |
| 17:23.52 | [X]Spot | how can I add this package ? |
| 17:24.34 | [X]Spot | ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'fribidi' (but '[]' DEPENDS on or otherwise requires it) |
| 17:24.41 | [X]Spot | bitvake fribidi |
| 17:29.24 | mwester | find openembedded/packages -name '*.bb' | xargs grep fribidi |
| 17:29.55 | mwester | (assuming that find openembedded/packages -name '*fribidi*' comes up empty first) |
| 17:37.09 | kalev | [X]Spot: are you using latest oe.dev? |
| 17:47.37 | [X]Spot | yes |
| 17:47.44 | [X]Spot | I just installed it using git |
| 17:49.02 | [X]Spot | mwester |
| 17:49.02 | [X]Spot | OE:beagleboard [bitbake@localhost oe]$ find org.openembedded.dev/packages -name '*.bb' | xargs grep fribidi |
| 17:49.02 | [X]Spot | org.openembedded.dev/packages/vlc/vlc-gpe_0.8.4.bb: --disable-fribidi \ |
| 17:49.02 | [X]Spot | org.openembedded.dev/packages/vlc/vlc-gpe_0.7.2.bb: --disable-fribidi \ |
| 17:49.02 | [X]Spot | org.openembedded.dev/packages/vlc/vlc-gpe_0.8.1.bb: --disable-fribidi \ |
| 17:49.04 | [X]Spot | .. |
| 17:52.59 | mwester | find openembedded/packages/ -name '*fribidi*' |
| 17:53.02 | mwester | openembedded/packages/libfribidi/libfribidi_0.10.4.bb |
| 17:55.23 | kalev | which vlc version is it that you're compiling? |
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| 18:11.28 | Crofton|work | zecke, the phrase book look sgood |
| 18:13.22 | mwester | it is rather good. :) |
| 18:15.41 | Crofton|work | I think I learned more about git in the few minutes it took me to look it over |
| 18:16.00 | Tartarus | Indeed |
| 18:16.06 | Crofton|work | than in months of hacking about |
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| 18:39.32 | odesus | hi!!! |
| 18:39.47 | odesus | is there any useful documentation for begginers on OE? |
| 18:40.05 | odesus | for very very newbies :D |
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| 18:43.02 | kgilmer | odesus did you see the wiki? |
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| 18:43.26 | odesus | yes but I got some problems with bitbake.. |
| 18:43.30 | odesus | kind of difficult to install.. |
| 18:43.41 | kgilmer | on linux? |
| 18:43.47 | Jay7 | http://bec-systems.com/oe/html/index.html |
| 18:43.51 | odesus | is it true the learning curve for OE is kind of complex=? |
| 18:43.54 | Jay7 | OpenEmbedded User Manual |
| 18:44.04 | Jin^eLD | odesus: bitbake is in the repos of most distros already, might be as easy as as apt-get install bitbake or yum intsall bitbake |
| 18:44.10 | Jay7 | http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started |
| 18:44.52 | odesus | jin and Jay7: Is it true the learning curve of OE is kind of complex? |
| 18:44.59 | Jin^eLD | odesus: yes :> |
| 18:45.26 | Jin^eLD | but probably depends on what you want to do |
| 18:45.43 | odesus | as I understand OE offers more advantages than other tools like freshmeat, busybox and buildroot |
| 18:46.03 | Jay7 | odesus: can't say.. for me it was enough easy |
| 18:46.50 | kergoth | odesus: freshmeat and oe are completely different, and busybox is a tool that oe can build. you sound very confused. |
| 18:47.24 | odesus | yes very very confused.. |
| 18:47.41 | Jay7 | but I have already had experience in building software and making freebsd ports and gentoo ebuilds :) |
| 18:48.29 | odesus | i have worked with buildroot |
| 18:48.34 | odesus | but It's kind of difficult. |
| 18:48.55 | odesus | then OE sounds the natural way for bring quickly applications to market.. |
| 18:49.04 | Jay7 | odesus: just read Getting_Started for beginning |
| 18:49.55 | odesus | ok many thanks for your suggestions to all |
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| 19:00.49 | pb_ | yo kergoth |
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| 19:08.06 | steliosk | how could a task cause a segmentation fault with ipkg ? |
| 19:09.28 | steliosk | http://rafb.net/p/7jOUZ555.html |
| 19:10.08 | bluelightning | a breath of wind could cause a segfault in ipkg... |
| 19:10.12 | bluelightning | (ducks) |
| 19:10.16 | bluelightning | ;) |
| 19:10.44 | kergoth | hey pb_ |
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| 19:13.50 | doog | I'm building OE for beagle and designing a VMWare image for others and can't get the build to not use /tmp. TMPDIR helps but I still see .c,.s,.o files in /tmp. Does anyone know a way around this or do I need to link /tmp to another partition? |
| 19:16.56 | CIA-3 | 03 <bluelightning@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9ff620dfdf 10org.openembedded.dev.git/: |
| 19:16.56 | CIA-3 | merge of '88676b03209e4a8147b6f9ab4d6f5c66d0132128' |
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| 19:17.04 | CIA-3 | 03 <bluelightning@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r30760b6c0a 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:17.04 | CIA-3 | beecrypt: merge duplicate recipes |
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| 19:39.55 | steliosk | bluelightning : changing the nesting order of the tasks solved the issue. Probably the wind changed ;) |
| 19:40.10 | bluelightning | steliosk: :) |
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| 19:46.37 | [X]Spot | mwester |
| 19:47.19 | drakou | hi everybody : How could I do to build an image (like x11-image ) without any kernel ? I don't need a kernel. |
| 19:47.46 | [X]Spot | [bitbake@localhost oe]$ find org.openembedded.dev/packages/ -name '*fribidi*' |
| 19:47.46 | [X]Spot | org.openembedded.dev/packages/libfribidi |
| 19:47.46 | [X]Spot | org.openembedded.dev/packages/libfribidi/libfribidi_0.10.4.bb |
| 19:48.12 | [X]Spot | just did bitbake vlc |
| 19:49.38 | [X]Spot | Crofton|work did you do anything else (instead of "bitbake vlc") to build vlc ? |
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| 19:50.21 | Tartarus | drakou, you can't really |
| 19:50.27 | Tartarus | You'd have to fake it |
| 19:50.42 | drakou | because, the kernel build is failing |
| 19:51.09 | drakou | cp: cannot stat `/home/drakou/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-2.6.21/defconfig': No such file or directory |
| 19:51.09 | drakou | NOTE: Task failed: |
| 19:53.46 | drakou | I think I know why |
| 19:53.53 | CIA-3 | 03 <bluelightning@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r14cca7b461 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/portabase/metakit_2.4.9.3.bb: metakit: fix library installation/packaging |
| 19:56.04 | drakou | Where are located the bb files for the kernels ? |
| 19:56.24 | drakou | I created a new machine, and in my machine file, there is : PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "${MACHINE}-kernel" |
| 19:56.55 | drakou | but, since this is a new machine, i guess the ${MACHINE}-kernel doesn't exists ... |
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| 20:01.19 | woglinde | hi |
| 20:02.05 | Jin^eLD | hi woglinde |
| 20:02.33 | woglinde | hi jineld |
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| 20:05.19 | Jin^eLD | enough for me today, bye everyone |
| 20:05.27 | woglinde | bye jineld |
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| 20:36.21 | turqy | hi all. |
| 20:36.51 | turqy | i want to set up an oe distribution in an "enterprise" setting. |
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| 20:37.00 | woglinde | ???? |
| 20:37.06 | woglinde | this menast what? |
| 20:37.08 | woglinde | means |
| 20:37.14 | turqy | which means that a bunch of developers (some of which are quite daft) will be using it. |
| 20:37.46 | turqy | let me explain: |
| 20:37.58 | woglinde | h then sdk stuff might better for you |
| 20:38.10 | woglinde | instead of whole oe |
| 20:38.23 | turqy | when i want to build (angstrom|poky|whatever) i just download the metadata and start working as you would expect. |
| 20:39.20 | turqy | but at my workplace i have embedded linux developers that work from windows machines using putty, and don't have local storage. they are used to clearcase and want to ssh into a build machine and work off of some centralized tree. |
| 20:39.23 | CosmicPenguin | and indeed, it is older then 66 |
| 20:39.28 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 20:39.41 | CosmicPenguin | sometimes those arrow keys move of their own accord |
| 20:39.59 | woglinde | turqy as I said build the sdk stuff transfer it to a servermachine |
| 20:40.08 | woglinde | and then they can work as they want |
| 20:40.20 | woglinde | even with clearcase |
| 20:40.55 | turqy | woglinde: i'll look into it. most of my oe experience is based on poky. is the sdk you describe similar to Poky's idea of an sdk? basically just a toolchain and maybe some useful IDE plugins? |
| 20:40.56 | woglinde | and if you find errors in the sdk stuff improve it *g* |
| 20:41.32 | woglinde | toolchain yes, ide plugins hm I do not know one |
| 20:41.39 | woglinde | in terms of oe |
| 20:41.59 | turqy | poky has a nice one for anjuta. |
| 20:42.12 | turqy | http://labs.o-hand.com/anjuta-poky-sdk-plugin/ |
| 20:43.00 | woglinde | I never usedn anjuta |
| 20:43.19 | woglinde | I am somehow familar with eclipse |
| 20:43.40 | turqy | ah. |
| 20:44.27 | turqy | most of the folks around here just use vim/emacs/nano + ssh, or they use some windows editor combined with a window's clearcase tool and hack over samba shares. |
| 20:44.41 | woglinde | hm oh |
| 20:44.53 | woglinde | I thought they only know windows tools |
| 20:44.59 | kgilmer_ | woglinde we have some oe integration stuff in eclipse and hope to release an initial version in the next week or so. |
| 20:45.12 | woglinde | kgilmer huh what stuff? |
| 20:45.39 | kgilmer_ | a plugin that sits on top of CDT to make hosting the OE toolchain easier |
| 20:45.51 | kgilmer_ | integration with QEMU similiar to how it works in anjuta |
| 20:45.55 | kgilmer_ | and a recipe editor |
| 20:46.01 | woglinde | hm |
| 20:46.07 | woglinde | sounds nice |
| 20:46.28 | kgilmer_ | screenshot: http://bugblogger.com/in-the-oven-openembeddedpoky-eclipse-225/ |
| 20:47.12 | woglinde | eclipse needs better git and mercurial supprt |
| 20:47.31 | kgilmer_ | eclipse needs to stop crashing :) |
| 20:47.39 | woglinde | aeh hehe |
| 20:47.55 | chouimat|work | kgilmer_: work well with 10GB of ram :) |
| 20:47.56 | woglinde | yes eclipse is sometimes a shitty blob |
| 20:48.07 | kgilmer_ | hahah chouimat|work |
| 20:48.10 | woglinde | dont look at the code of the profiling project |
| 20:48.25 | kgilmer_ | i miss eclipse 2.11 |
| 20:48.45 | woglinde | I hacked one night to get the profiling stuff compiled with newer libxerces-c |
| 20:49.03 | kgilmer_ | but i think the fundamental issue is that the jvm is unstable in linux. 1.5, 1.6 both. |
| 20:49.12 | woglinde | somehow they forget linux because under windows alls working fine |
| 20:49.23 | woglinde | kgilmer_ hm uh unstable? |
| 20:49.27 | woglinde | in which sense? |
| 20:49.36 | kgilmer_ | agreed woglinde |
| 20:50.31 | kgilmer_ | well i get a lot of 'out of memory' errors and jvm crashes |
| 20:50.55 | kgilmer_ | googling around, regardless of distro, shows a large number of open issues with sun jvm in linux |
| 20:51.13 | kgilmer_ | we use linux and eclipse at bug labs and pretty much everyone has issues |
| 20:51.14 | woglinde | hm |
| 20:51.31 | woglinde | seems they only happens with eclipse |
| 20:52.02 | kgilmer_ | yeah, that's true. i think eclipse exersizes the jvm the most. |
| 20:52.25 | kgilmer_ | i'm kind of frustrated about it at the moment woglinde :) |
| 20:52.37 | woglinde | kgilmer yes I can understand you |
| 20:53.02 | woglinde | ganymade made a good step |
| 20:53.08 | woglinde | but not enough |
| 20:54.25 | woglinde | hm I have to kill the inventer of AM_GLIB_GETTEXT |
| 20:57.06 | kgilmer_ | heading out woglinde. ttyl :) |
| 20:58.51 | kalev | woglinde: thanks for cleaning up splashutils do_configure mess yesterday |
| 20:59.08 | woglinde | kalev no prob |
| 20:59.14 | woglinde | pmount worries me |
| 20:59.32 | woglinde | the idiots didnt understand how to program for users which do not want NLS |
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| 21:00.04 | szsoftware | evening |
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| 21:00.14 | kalev | ah, hmm |
| 21:00.35 | woglinde | and I found mega old rotten macro in e2fs-libs |
| 21:00.58 | szsoftware | I have a very annoying problem with fetching a kernel I dont know, where I have done the misconfiguration |
| 21:01.11 | kalev | what do they use e2fs-libs for anyway? |
| 21:01.19 | szsoftware | can someone please have a look at this bitbake output: http://pastebin.com/m4dc6ee5f |
| 21:01.25 | szsoftware | thanks in advance! |
| 21:01.49 | szsoftware | woglinde: Hello again :-) |
| 21:02.06 | woglinde | hi szsoftware |
| 21:02.17 | woglinde | kalev aeh youself put the depends in |
| 21:02.34 | Crofton|work | another stalker is after me |
| 21:02.40 | Crofton|work | http://www.linkedin.com/in/erindufresne |
| 21:03.00 | woglinde | szsoftware try to update your bitbake |
| 21:03.14 | woglinde | szsoftware otherwise I have no clue |
| 21:03.16 | kalev | yes, but I have no idea what they use from e2fs-libs, I just noticed their configure script needed it |
| 21:04.01 | kalev | you said that you found some old rotten macro, so I thought maybe you investigated something :) |
| 21:04.17 | kalev | ah, you're just trying to get it to compile on your target? |
| 21:04.59 | woglinde | kalev hehe I tried to compile it with newer gettext |
| 21:05.12 | woglinde | kalev it is fixed |
| 21:05.18 | woglinde | but I have to fix pmount too |
| 21:05.20 | szsoftware | woglinde: hmm, ok. The funny thing is, I dont need a kernel built with bitbake console-image, because I build that outside of oe. But I dont know, how to disable kernel building. Any hint? |
| 21:05.36 | kalev | woglinde: awesome :) |
| 21:05.49 | Crofton|work | szsoftware, I've tried and failed to do that |
| 21:05.52 | woglinde | szsoftware go to the manual and read about PROVIDED stuff |
| 21:06.13 | woglinde | crofton hm cant you do it like the toolchain? |
| 21:06.31 | Crofton|work | woglinde, it was easier to build a kernell :) |
| 21:07.18 | szsoftware | woglinde: thanks so far.CU |
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| 21:07.54 | woglinde | kalev hm yes seems ted tso likes that his code bit rots |
| 21:08.22 | woglinde | or he did not update his gettext version for 5 years |
| 21:08.25 | woglinde | dont know |
| 21:09.36 | kalev | at least that's something what OE is good at: we've got many pairs of eyes looking at every recipe :) |
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| 21:41.07 | woglinde | hahah |
| 21:41.15 | woglinde | now seems I have fight it |
| 21:41.18 | woglinde | and won |
| 21:41.30 | woglinde | ~lart pmount authors for not thinking |
| 21:41.31 | ibot | takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking pmount authors's head off for not thinking |
| 21:41.47 | woglinde | *g* |
| 21:42.09 | kalev | what was the problem? |
| 21:43.09 | kalev | ~clap woglinde |
| 21:43.21 | kalev | silly ibot :) |
| 21:49.58 | woglinde | kalev they used it, only to think about that someone will not use NLS |
| 21:53.58 | kalev | ok, bed time for me |
| 21:54.01 | kalev | see you woglinde |
| 21:54.10 | woglinde | kalev pleas try pmount tomorrow |
| 21:54.15 | woglinde | and if you have |
| 21:54.16 | kalev | sure |
| 21:54.22 | woglinde | test it with a mmc too |
| 21:54.27 | woglinde | best internal |
| 21:54.40 | woglinde | want to know if the remove mmc hack is needed |
| 21:55.32 | kalev | ok, I will |
| 21:55.32 | kalev | thanks |
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| 23:19.23 | woglinde | he khem |
| 23:19.30 | woglinde | khem are you awake? |
| 23:22.33 | Crofton|work | he should be :) |
| 23:22.44 | Crofton|work | 1630 on the left coast |
| 23:23.47 | woglinde | hm I wonder why we install uclibc utils in stage |
| 23:23.53 | woglinde | this is rather useless |
| 23:25.20 | woglinde | that is what I want to discuss with him |
| 23:25.33 | woglinde | because we are not using qemu |
| 23:25.40 | woglinde | this can go away |
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| 23:25.44 | woglinde | jo raster |
| 23:26.02 | raster | boo |
| 23:26.16 | woglinde | hms I need a faster computer |
| 23:29.43 | woglinde | so nice |
| 23:29.48 | woglinde | pmount is fixed |
| 23:30.33 | woglinde | ~lart the morons for use install with -o root and -g root |
| 23:30.33 | ibot | teaches the morons the basics, including how to RTM for use install with -o root and -g root |
| 23:34.59 | woglinde | okay |
| 23:35.00 | woglinde | nite |
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| 23:35.14 | woglinde | and hope that I didnt break oe again *g* |
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| 23:36.11 | raster | hmmm |
| 23:36.46 | raster | setting owner and group may make sense if they they set setuid bits... |
| 23:38.17 | CIA-3 | 03 <woglinde2@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r374f41b58e 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/e2fsprogs-libs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:38.17 | CIA-3 | e2fsprogs-libs: update to versio 1.41.2 |
| 23:38.17 | CIA-3 | * add mkinstalldirs.patch which is necessary because |
| 23:38.17 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.17 | CIA-3 | 03 <woglinde2@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4290c4b34a 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/gettext/gettext_0.17.bb: |
| 23:38.21 | CIA-3 | gettext: make version 0.17 the default |
| 23:38.23 | CIA-3 | * 0.14.1 is using some old macros never used in modern autotools scripts |
| 23:38.23 | woglinde | raster but not when you do it in oe |
| 23:38.25 | CIA-3 | * only e2fslibs so far clashes, while it needs some of the old macros |
| 23:38.27 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.29 | CIA-3 | 03 <woglinde2@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r728b45761b 10org.openembedded.dev.git/: |
| 23:38.31 | CIA-3 | merge of 'ea367d406c83c35493f3e8c93c52fad15e9eac1e' |
| 23:38.33 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.35 | CIA-3 | 03 <woglinde2@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r80bdb16c9d 10org.openembedded.dev.git/classes/gettext.bbclass: |
| 23:38.38 | CIA-3 | gettext.bbclass: make it simpler to understand |
| 23:38.40 | CIA-3 | * set the deps for package which can use NLS stuff |
| 23:38.42 | CIA-3 | * filter the deps out if NLS is not requested |
| 23:38.44 | CIA-3 | 03 <woglinde2@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rea59717145 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/pmount/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:39.11 | CIA-3 | pmount: update to version 0.9.17 |
| 23:39.11 | CIA-3 | * recipe original provided by Kalev Lember |
| 23:39.11 | CIA-3 | * added gettext.patch because we want build without NLS stuff |
| 23:39.12 | CIA-3 | * added install.patch bescaue we want to install withou -o root |
| 23:39.12 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.14 | CIA-3 | * leave mmc problem open, if there was one |
| 23:39.36 | woglinde | hm |
| 23:39.39 | woglinde | okay |
| 23:39.51 | woglinde | forget the line closes bug 4599 |
| 23:41.27 | khem | woglinde: hey how are u |
| 23:43.29 | woglinde | he khem |
| 23:43.35 | woglinde | khem hm I am tired now |
| 23:43.37 | woglinde | a little |
| 23:43.38 | woglinde | bit |
| 23:43.50 | woglinde | khem did you read about my uclibc suggesion? |
| 23:44.06 | woglinde | we dont need ldconfig and ldd in staging |
| 23:48.49 | woglinde | hm okay |
| 23:48.53 | woglinde | nite now really |
| 23:50.54 | CIA-3 | 03 <woglinde2@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r448b0e5e3f 10org.openembedded.dev.git/packages/gettext/gettext-native_0.17.bb: |
| 23:50.54 | CIA-3 | gettext-nativ: added config.rpath back to automake dir |
| 23:50.54 | CIA-3 | * bump PR |
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