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00:22.35_hcanyone know how I might be able to move the OE "tmp" directory?
00:22.47_hcbitbake is complaining when I do it
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00:54.47Crofton|work_hc, you can;'t move it
00:54.58Crofton|workyou'll need to re-create it in the new loation
00:55.08Crofton|workstart a build before going to bed :)
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01:28.34_hcwow, you need fast machines to work with this stuff...
01:29.57_hcis it possible/good practice to build images for multiple devices from the same tree?
01:30.09_hcI tried this once, and my tree got very messed up
01:52.45Crofton|workas long as you are using mulitmachine it is good
01:52.56Crofton|workangstrom uses multi-machine by default
01:53.19Crofton|workit really saves time for machines with the same cpu
01:55.54_hchmm, yeah,I think I messed everything up by changing the DISTRO from angstrom to openmoko...
02:10.35dcordes_hc, how does that show?
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02:37.31_hcdcordes: it refuses to sucessfully ./configure libtool-cross, even though it works fine on other builds
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05:43.33Manavi am new to it can anybody tell me about distro or machine support channel?
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06:44.44ant__mornin'
06:44.52ant__XorA: hi
06:45.07XorAhey
06:54.45ant__do you have 1 min? I need a typo-fix (missing ") http://rafb.net/p/dZXzFP64.html
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06:56.10XorAlets see it an mtn pull works :-)
06:56.24ant__ha ha
06:56.36ant__*if*
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07:17.33CIA-303 <xora@openembedded.org> 07master * r2da9c320bb 10OE.dev/packages/u-boot/u-boot_git.bb: u-boot_git.bb : fix typo
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07:53.36pb__lrg: good morning
07:53.57lrghey pb_
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08:18.33ant_workre
08:18.49ant_workXorA: thx
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08:48.09CIA-303 <pb@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rabb266431e 10OE.dev/packages/curl/ (curl_7.19.0.bb off_t_abi_fix.patch): curl: avoid off_t confusion caused by site file
08:48.12pb_florian: good morning
08:48.19CIA-303 <pb@openembedded.org> 07master * rabb266431e 10OE.dev/packages/curl/ (curl_7.19.0.bb off_t_abi_fix.patch): curl: avoid off_t confusion caused by site file
08:48.35pb_ant_work: that patch should fix the libcurl5 problem you were having yesterday
08:50.20floriangood morning
08:54.17ant_workpb_: great
08:54.26ant_workmorin' florian
08:54.49ant_workhe, an new user @siemens was asking for help in the ml
08:55.02ant_workhe cannot pull (firewall)
08:55.10ant_workquestion was: >How often are snapshots generated?
08:55.18ant_workanswer ?
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08:57.40ant_workOE.mtn.bz2  15-Jun-2008 07:07  173M
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08:58.15ant_workthat's almost three months old!
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09:06.13ant_workone could use this instead of OE.mtn, right? http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/monotone/nslu2-linux.mtn.gz
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10:19.03hrwmorning
10:23.27Jin^eLDre
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10:39.20rajatp_FATAL: Please set the 'PERSISTENT_DIR' or 'CACHE' variable.
10:40.21rajatp_While trying  bitbake nano I am getting the error FATAL: Please set the 'PERSISTENT_DIR' or 'CACHE' variable.Please suggest the next
11:00.04rajatp_How can I resolve the issue
11:06.09hrwwhat vars?
11:06.25hrwI use OE for over 5 years and never saw PERSISTENT_DIR
11:07.25rajatp_I am getting the error while using bitbake nano
11:08.35Manavrajatp_: I have also not seen this var , can u try giving blank to these ....
11:10.15rajatp_Sorry I am not getting
11:10.23Manavfor CACHE i have just commented it and its working for me....
11:10.39rajatp_ok
11:11.47rajatp_Actually I don't have much experience in OE
11:11.58Manavme too...
11:11.59rajatp_Just before a week I am using OE
11:12.22hrwrajatp_: rm conf/* and then create conf/local.conf with your MACHINE entry and DISTRO="angstrom-2008.1"
11:12.30hrwrajatp_: then it should just works
11:13.46XorAhrw: PERSISTENT_DIR is the cache directory for stuff we want to keep between builds like the gitX+ numbers
11:14.08XorAhrw: defaults to CACHE
11:14.35hrwthx XorA
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11:16.13rajatp_Its already there as MACHINE="c7x0" and DISTRO="angstrom-2008.1"
11:16.35rajatp_still it's showing the same error
11:18.59Manavcheck for conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc:CACHE = "${TMPDIR}/cache/${ANGSTROM_MODE}/${MACHINE}"
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11:23.06rajatp_Is it inside local.conf?
11:24.09Manavno this is path conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc
11:24.23rajatp_ok
11:27.09rajatp_Its already there.
11:27.23rajatp_CACHE = "${TMPDIR}/cache/${ANGSTROM_MODE}/${MACHINE}"
11:29.34rajatp_should I uncomment the CACHE in /slug/build/conf
11:31.14Manavfor me its working ... i have commented it in my local.conf
11:31.51rajatp_ohh still giving the same error
11:36.31ant_workhrw: linux-kexecboot is using CONFIG_LOGO_OHAND_CLUT224=y
11:36.40ant_workis it an issue?
11:36.53ant_workwith opened-hand tm?
11:39.36pb_that does seem like a fairly undesirable thing to have as the default in oe
11:39.50ant_workI'd replace with  CONFIG_LOGO_LINUX_CLUT224
11:43.25Manavrajatp_: Plz make sure that you are giving the right path
11:44.57ant_workrajatp_: follow *exactly* the instruction given here: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2008-July/002416.html
11:45.08hrwant_work: feel free to drop that part
11:45.35hrwant_work: in linux-rp recipe logo stuff is added to defconfigs - it was never part of defconfigs in metadata
11:45.38ant_workI'll add a remerk on angstrom-dev ML
11:45.54hrwant_work: so it is an error of someone who created linux-kexecboot recipe
11:46.05ant_workdunno why thesing did it...
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11:46.35ant_workRP suggestions/exemples? :-D
11:50.28CIA-303 <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r9232f38efe 10OE.dev/packages/quake/ (quake2/.mtn2git_empty quake2/quake2-arm.patch quake2_svn.bb): quake2: add quake2 from icculus.org
11:50.32hrwI think that he used defconfigs generated by system
11:51.11CIA-303 <koen@openembedded.org> 07master * r9232f38efe 10OE.dev/packages/quake/ (quake2/.mtn2git_empty quake2/quake2-arm.patch quake2_svn.bb): quake2: add quake2 from icculus.org
11:51.39ant_workhrw: msg sent to angstrom-devel
11:52.04ant_work(koen)
11:53.50rajatp_I am using the exact path
11:53.55ant_workhrw: this initramfs seems working well, the only issue on Zaurus Clamshells is one can not easily resize the mtdparts because the Sharp's bootloader does not pass the 'mtdparts= string'
11:54.10ant_workfor this, u-boot is needed
11:54.42rajatp_Manav: I am using the exact path
11:54.46ant_workquestion: what about u-boot only for booting the initramfs kexec kernel? I tested this and seems ok.
11:55.27ant_workI could test other distros on SD, even writing on mtd (the part size are passed by bootloader, no need for specific kernels)
11:56.03ant_workif oneday we'll gain a working u-boot 1.3.x for Zaurus, then we'll discuss again
11:56.17hrwant_work: I am not planning to spend any time on Zaurus stuff.
11:56.31ant_workI know, but you already spent some
11:56.42ant_workand are one of the experts about Z
11:56.53ant_workjust a suggestion
11:58.04hrwant_work: so you would have: first sharp bootloader -> u-boot -> kexecboo kernel -> kernel -> rootfs
11:58.19hrwant_work: u-boot and kexecboot do not join
11:58.41hrwif your Zaurus has u-boot then you can setup it to boot from flash/sd/cf
11:58.50ant_workwell, no screen...
11:59.31ant_workbut the advantage are: more space (e.g. keep networking) and custom mtdparts
11:59.46hrwyou want to choose how to boot on each reboot?
12:00.25hrwon collie kexecboot has sense because there is no space for current rootfses in flash and there is no other boot loader available
12:01.01ant_workwell..atm I boot the kexecboot-kernel in mtd1 and chose from there, even on c7x0
12:01.14ant_workwith 96mb rootfs
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12:02.33ant_workremember the booted kernel can now be in /boot like for the rest of the world :-)
12:03.01ant_workwe are cutting away on of these nasty zaurus customizations
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12:07.37ant_workhrw: about booting from SD/CF with u-boot I tried to edit env with u-boot-utils but did apparently something wrong...
12:07.50woglindehi
12:07.58ant_workhello woglinde
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13:25.18hrwelo mickeyl
13:25.40mickeylheya hrw
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13:27.10pb_hail mickeyl
13:27.15woglindehi pb
13:27.19pb_hi woglinde
13:27.39mickeylmorning pb_
13:29.07Croftongm
13:29.18woglindehi crofton
13:31.28Croftonmickeyl, have you made progress on the ev?
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13:33.00mickeylsorry for not communicating, but the board seem to be very lazy these days :/ we got response that we need to change a couple of things in our statutes, only after that we will get granted
13:33.32Croftonwhat happened to the hard working German?
13:33.37Crofton:)
13:33.48Croftonmaybe summer is ending and that will help
13:33.49woglindecrofton tse tse
13:34.40mickeylCrofton: i hope so
13:34.51mickeylkicks rschuster, florian, zecke, and himself
13:35.06Croftonheh
13:35.16Croftonmaybe have one of them kick you
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13:36.50mickeylbeen doing too many things in parallel these days
13:37.03mickeylwill change that after coming back from taiwan
13:39.17CIA-303 <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r88faa70c62 10OE.dev/packages/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
13:39.18CIA-3ecore, libgpewidget: add more depends
13:39.20CIA-3libgpepimc, libgpewidget: bump PR to get Depends: fixed in packages
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13:39.51CIA-3ecore, libgpewidget: add more depends
13:39.51CIA-3libgpepimc, libgpewidget: bump PR to get Depends: fixed in packages
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13:43.48hrwhmm.. reports from git..
13:43.56hrwso which is finally official? git or monotone?
13:44.23CroftonThe only one I can commit to is mtn
13:44.29mickeylno idea actually
13:44.38mickeyli'd like to know where it "hangs"
13:44.46CroftonI hope git is still mirror only
13:44.46mickeyllast i knew was some problems with mtn2git
13:44.56Croftongood to see the commit messages getting tested
13:45.19hrwtested...
13:45.39hrwI wonder when mails will get useful more - 'From: OE GIT Trail' is ugly
13:45.40Crofton|workhow serious is this
13:45.45Crofton|workERROR: QA Issue: non -dev package contains symlink .so: libgr-audio-alsa path '/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gnuradio-3.1.3+svnr9490-r4/install/libgr-audio-alsa/usr/lib/libgr_audio_alsa.so'
13:45.49Crofton|worknot fatal
13:45.59hrwCrofton|work: it will kill your hamster
13:46.07Crofton|workI don't have a hamster
13:46.18Crofton|workif I did, the cats would have already killed it
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13:50.41woglindeCrofton sometimes e.g. plugins have the full library-version only .so
13:50.47woglinde+dont
13:50.54woglindeso no problem
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14:22.11pb_woglinde: if that was the case, it wouldn't be a symlink
14:22.45pb_I think Crofton|work's error does indicate a real problem, but a fairly minor one in the scheme of things.  If this is a plugin based package it probably means that the call to do_split_packages() needs adjusting.
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19:21.26mmpHello, what is th recommended version of bitbake to use?
19:22.06mmpwiki suggests 1.8.x, but with that I'm getting: ERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf (conf/bitbake.conf:312: unparsed line: 'export PATH')
19:29.44mmp(1.8.8, to be precise)
19:30.03mmpit's currently downloaded org.openembedded.dev snapshot
19:30.03woglindeI use bitbake from svn
19:30.57mmpwoglinde: trunk?
19:31.32woglindeyes
19:38.10mmphmm, apparently works now; but then the wiki should be updated to recommend unstable bitbake
19:39.14woglindethen do it your self
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19:52.54mmpwell, I'll try
19:53.32mmpbut I'm not sure whether this is the right thing to do; if the intention is to use stable version of bitbake, the change has to be done elsewhere...
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19:54.57woglindemmp hm raise your experience on the ml or the bug tracker
19:55.17mmpgood point:)
19:55.24woglindebut rp aka richard purdie, who made serval bibake releases has some other stuff to do
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20:44.19ant__Jay7: hey
20:44.29Jay7ant__: rere :)
20:45.23ant__JaMa: big news is kexecboot has been adopted by koen!
20:45.39ant__Jay7: that was for you ^^^
20:46.01Jay7ant__: adopted for what? :)
20:46.06ant__JaMa: how'are going your u-boot experiments?
20:46.14Jay7I've seen that it was commited
20:46.15ant__Jay7: ;-) ^^^ another adept
20:46.39woglinde~lart mtn-server
20:46.39ibottakes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking mtn-server's head off
20:46.54ant__Jay7: 2 threads here  http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2008-September/thread.html
20:47.23Jay7ant__: I will going to Moscow at weekend :)
20:47.23ant__woglinde: lart is not enough...
20:47.36ant__ok, you'll get that serial cable so?
20:47.44Jay7I hope :)
20:48.12Jay7next iteration is to get kexecboot working as init
20:48.19Jay7then our initramfs :)
20:48.48ant__no progress for the new u-boot...
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20:57.48woglindere florian
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20:58.18Jay7ant__: It seems like I should subscribe to -devel :)
20:58.33ant__yep, create a label in gmail...
20:58.48Jay7there is some interesting threads
20:59.33ant__I'd suggest both oe and angstrom
20:59.54ant__btw irc on #angstrom is dead imho
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21:05.07ant__pb__: curls seems fixed now, thx
21:06.16Jay7ant__: yes, #angstrom and #zaurus is too quiet
21:07.02ant__<PROTECTED>
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21:07.46ant__Inte* must have hired all the irc users :-]
21:08.27Jay7:))
21:08.47Jay7btw, somebody tries kde4 builds on Z? :)
21:09.13Jay7kde team actively working on kde4 port on N810 :)
21:09.35Jay7seems very interesting..
21:09.41ant__hm...tried kde 3.5 stripped on pdaxrom time ago and was slow as hell...
21:10.14ant__have you tried this debian 'andromeda' on SD?
21:10.29Jay7ant__: no
21:11.17ant__me too, seems nice  http://yonggun.tistory.com/77
21:11.40Jay7ant__: I've read about this
21:11.57Jay7some of our community is using andromeda
21:12.13Jay7but I prefer angstrom :)
21:12.47ant__yes, is self-tailored
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21:13.43ant__http://yonggun.tistory.com/category/Zaurus  look at the WM
21:17.51Jay7dwm?
21:18.06pb__ant__: very good
21:18.31pb__florian: good evening
21:19.02Jay7ah, 'awesome'
21:19.41Jay7ant__: I'm using fvwm on my akita now :)
21:19.58Jay7but it is not configured properly..
21:20.21ant__I'd stay with GPE, but really needs fixes too...
21:20.58ant__but oneday I'll try awesome on desktop just to see
21:21.55Jay7I have taken some usability ideas from hpc.ru
21:22.24ant__interesting
21:22.34Jay7e.g. using touchscreen buttons for windows controlling
21:22.58Jay7now I can remove borders and titles from 'primary' windows :)
21:24.12CIA-303 <woglinde2@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r8dcb0f1dd2 10OE.dev/classes/binconfig.bbclass: binconfig: fix small bug found by Julian Chu from openmoko
21:24.19CIA-303 <utx@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4d03995e59 10OE.dev/packages/intltool/ (intltool-native_0.40.3.bb intltool_0.40.3.bb): intltool: Better fix of perl path not breaking native nor cross build.
21:24.19Jay7btw, in angstrom we have 11 such buttons
21:24.19CIA-303 <woglinde2@openembedded.org> 07master * r8dcb0f1dd2 10OE.dev/classes/binconfig.bbclass: binconfig: fix small bug found by Julian Chu from openmoko
21:24.23CIA-303 <utx@openembedded.org> 07master * r4d03995e59 10OE.dev/packages/intltool/ (intltool-native_0.40.3.bb intltool_0.40.3.bb): intltool: Better fix of perl path not breaking native nor cross build.
21:28.35ant__Jay7: back to u-boot, I'll try now to create a separate partition for u-boot-env. Perhaps there is some bug handling it as address...
21:29.43Jay7ant__: let me know about outcome :)
21:30.27Jay7then we can store last selected boot device in u-boot env :)
21:32.57ant__yes, and install that zxspectrum/C64 emulator in nand :-)
21:33.19woglindenite
21:33.26ant__nacht
21:34.34ant__Jay7: when you have time, please build linux-kexecboot, just to see it actually boots on akita after last changes
21:35.04ant__doing the same for c7x0 before risking a nand restore playing with u-boot
21:35.14Jay7ant__: ohh.. I can do this only after weekend when I return
21:35.19ant__np
21:35.34ant__only the logo will be removed :-]
21:35.48Jay7I like this logo :)
21:36.01ant__he, is trade mark
21:44.57ant__Jay7: urgh...kexec fails... ifdown: socket: function not implemented
21:45.31ant__I had to remove network to fit sharp limited size...
21:47.43Jay7may be is better to relocate kernel?
21:47.55Jay7just after the u-boot-env
21:48.18ant__he he, the problem is *without u-boot*
21:48.36ant__1408k are enough, otherwise
21:48.52ant__but we'll relocate that kernel...at least 1-2 mb
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21:56.14ant__Jay7: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/kexec/2008-May/001683.html
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21:59.58ant__Jay7: there is an option 'noifdown' for kexec :-)
22:00.24Jay7ant__: command-line or compile time?
22:00.33ant__http://onelab-build.inria.fr/4.0/planetlabeurope/2007.06.26--planetlabeurope/CODEBASE/kexec-tools/kexec/kexec.c
22:00.40ant__found on google...
22:00.59Jay7ah, ok
22:01.19Jay7(if used, must be last option specified)
22:01.26ant__ah, ok
22:01.48Jay7add once more NULL to kexec_load_args
22:02.16Jay7and then set kexec_load_args[idx] = "-x";
22:02.29Jay7and increase idx (++idx;)
22:03.10Jay7but do it before kernelpath
22:04.09ant__I'll just ask thesing to do that...or you could send a msg to the thread about kexec
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22:04.36ant__(before koen discovers it does not work anymore...)
22:05.11Jay7better is to ask thesing now..
22:05.29Jay7I'll return to work after weekend :)
22:10.18Jay7-> sleep()
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22:30.56gregoiregentilHello, I'm trying to build using openembbeded and I have this problem (which has been reported a few times now): http://pastebin.com/dc74632d. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
22:34.58ant__you have TMPDIR = "/OE/${DISTRO}-tmp/"
22:34.59ant__http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-users/2008-August/002100.html
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23:31.00_hcso I am getting this error:
23:31.04_hcERROR: QA Issue: xfce-mcs-manager.pc failed sanity test (tmpdir) in path /media/openembedded/angstrom-c7x0/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/pkgconfig
23:31.25_hcwhen I am trying to build non-related packages
23:31.34_hcsholdn't this fix it:
23:31.48_hcbitbake -cclean xfce-mcs-manager
23:35.56_hcor it seems I need to "undeploy" somehow, but i can't find any docs on that
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