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| 04:33.43 | kergoth | hmm any of you guys mess with ALIX boards? |
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| 06:16.32 | ljp | hey kergoth. how goes it? |
| 06:17.35 | kergoth | hey ljp. pretty good, you? |
| 06:18.10 | ljp | good. a bit weird thinking I now work for Nokia |
| 06:19.38 | ljp | did you know 14 nokia phones are made each second? |
| 06:19.52 | kergoth | can't say that i did. you working for nokia directly, or via tt? |
| 06:20.26 | ljp | via TT. but we are Nokia, just a unit within. Like S60 or maemo units |
| 06:24.03 | kergoth | ahh thats cool |
| 06:27.42 | ljp | ya, and we all got a free nokia phone to use |
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| 06:33.45 | mickeyl | heh, now that's worth it |
| 06:33.45 | mickeyl | :D |
| 06:40.07 | rwhitby | ljp: any Nokia phone you choose? |
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| 06:50.30 | ljp | got to pick from 5 top of the line ones. I got an E90 |
| 06:50.56 | ljp | mickeyl: they have to bribe us somehow |
| 06:51.20 | mickeyl | got Qtopia on it yet? :) |
| 06:52.46 | ljp | cant comment on anything like that |
| 06:53.05 | mickeyl | haha |
| 06:53.07 | mickeyl | right |
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| 06:54.00 | nataraj | nicksetup |
| 06:54.05 | nataraj | #nicksetup |
| 06:54.40 | nataraj | anybosy using gumstix? |
| 06:55.27 | nataraj | sorry mixed up |
| 06:55.36 | nataraj | anybody using gustmix? |
| 06:57.10 | mickeyl | lots of folks here, but due to timezones you better ask later |
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| 06:59.29 | nataraj | i need an RFS for At91Sam9263 |
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| 07:00.23 | nataraj | ok; what time ? |
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| 08:07.00 | likewise | gm |
| 08:11.07 | likewise | mickey|breakfast: bon appetit |
| 08:11.45 | CIA-48 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * red671418... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap2_git.bb): linux-omap2 git: fix evm patches |
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| 08:53.07 | cyrilRomain | morning all |
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| 09:33.47 | likewise | mroning |
| 09:33.50 | likewise | morning |
| 09:34.17 | likewise | m4-native fails for me, upon restarting bitbake it succeeds. (Multithreaded bitbake) Anyone seen this with current head? |
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| 10:22.52 | CIA-48 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r658e9feb... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap2_git.bb): linux-omap2 git: update SRCREV |
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| 10:36.59 | Spyro | hi guys |
| 10:37.13 | Spyro | how can I use git in OE to fetch my sources ? |
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| 10:38.47 | Spyro | I'd like to use git to pull a branch from kernel.org git |
| 10:39.04 | Spyro | and then again to update that tree from my git repor with the e-series changes in it. |
| 10:40.13 | Spyro | :q |
| 10:41.44 | Spyro | anyone alive ? |
| 10:42.01 | cyrilRomain | Spyro: you mean something like 'SRC_URI = "git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git;protocol=git;branch=andy"', but with local changes in that branch ? |
| 10:42.31 | Spyro | cyrilRomain: no |
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| 10:42.45 | Spyro | cyrilRomain: my problem is that my git repo has a limited bandwidth connection |
| 10:42.54 | Spyro | I dont want people pulling the entire tree from it |
| 10:43.02 | thesing | morning |
| 10:43.03 | Spyro | I want them to pull kernel.org and then pull the branch from it |
| 10:43.47 | Spyro | pull kernel.org for the bulk and then pull my branch from my git repo, that is |
| 10:44.03 | cyrilRomain | Spyro: I see. But I don't know how to do that :-/ |
| 10:44.31 | Spyro | darn |
| 10:44.57 | RP | The git fetcher can't handle that at present |
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| 10:45.43 | woglinde | hi pb |
| 10:46.51 | Spyro | RP: thats a damn shame |
| 10:46.55 | cyrilRomain | it would require a new keyword such as 'remotebranch=' (or something like that) |
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| 11:15.52 | oliford | i'm trying to add a build an angstrom image for a new machine. Can anyone point me at some good instructions for setting up a new machine? |
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| 11:23.29 | cyrilRomain | oliford: http://oe.linuxtogo.org/user-manual&dpage=commonuse_new_machine |
| 11:23.45 | cyrilRomain | oliford: I think the best is to see how it is done for others machines |
| 11:23.52 | oliford | yea, i've done that bit |
| 11:24.04 | oliford | Its the kernel bit that I don't get though |
| 11:24.26 | oliford | I have my own kernel image, with everything necessary compiled in |
| 11:25.08 | oliford | so I don't know what to put for the 'PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel' |
| 11:25.37 | cyrilRomain | oliford: so add a recipe for your kernel in org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/ |
| 11:25.56 | cyrilRomain | oliford: and set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel to your kernel |
| 11:26.41 | oliford | investigates packages/linux |
| 11:26.42 | oliford | chrs |
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| 11:29.02 | cyrilRomain | oliford: e.g. org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/mykernel_2.6.xx.bb and PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "mykernel" |
| 11:34.07 | oliford | ok, i'm investigating what to put in it atm though |
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| 11:35.31 | oliford | although, I am wondering why I need this, since angstrom will have no part in how the kernel is loaded |
| 11:35.55 | oliford | I suppose I will eventually switch to modules and then it'll need to know about it |
| 11:39.09 | cyrilRomain | oliford: I forgot to mention the above is to build the kernel with OE. I you have a prebuilt kernel image, |
| 11:39.42 | cyrilRomain | if you have a prebuilt kernel image you just want to use, mykernel_2.6.xx.bb is not required |
| 11:40.39 | oliford | oh |
| 11:40.58 | cyrilRomain | ASSUME_PROVIDED can be used to tell OE not to build the kernel (since you already have it) |
| 11:41.05 | oliford | ok, so in that case what is put in 'PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel' |
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| 11:41.30 | cyrilRomain | but I don't know if OE can build an image without the kernel |
| 11:41.51 | cyrilRomain | looks to a recent mails about that in ML |
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| 11:43.42 | cyrilRomain | hmm mail thread ends without clear answer... |
| 11:44.02 | Crofton|work | cyrilRomain, I made the kernel bb file work :( |
| 11:44.15 | Crofton|work | I guess I should mention that |
| 11:44.36 | Crofton|work | this is not an ideal solution |
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| 11:46.16 | cyrilRomain | hm I'm tempted to say it's better to create mykernel_2.6.xx.bb and let OE build the kernel (it's even better if kernel need patch in future) |
| 11:46.44 | cyrilRomain | Crofton|work: have you an ideal solution for oliford (even if not implemented yet) ? |
| 11:46.50 | oliford | yea, i was doing that |
| 11:47.23 | oliford | well, i have a git repo which i can put in as the src_uri and see if that all works |
| 11:48.06 | Crofton|work | no |
| 11:48.09 | oliford | trouble is the bootloader is either something i wrote myself which needs the kernel image compiled in, or HaRET |
| 11:48.16 | cyrilRomain | oliford: cool, so I think it's the way to go :) |
| 11:48.22 | Crofton|work | I can't work out all the places that try to build the bb file |
| 11:48.37 | Crofton|work | just build another kernel :) |
| 11:54.26 | oliford | ok, while that is doing whatever it's doing, totally different question.. |
| 11:55.26 | oliford | there is an app called 'cumulus'. They give a ipkg package for familar which won't install on angstrom because it requires libqte2, which only exists in the familiar repos, not for angstrom |
| 11:55.46 | oliford | how would I go about getting/building libqte2 for the selected angstrom in OE? |
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| 11:58.58 | cyrilRomain | oliford: 'bitbake qte' should be enough |
| 11:59.27 | cyrilRomain | oliford: but maybe do you need qte-mt or qte-mt-static instead (?) |
| 12:00.25 | oliford | is qte the same as qte2? |
| 12:00.58 | cyrilRomain | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.13 | oliford | ok, well, it seems to be building it |
| 12:01.14 | cyrilRomain | 'bitbake qte' will actually build qte_2.3.10.bb |
| 12:01.20 | oliford | yes, it is doing so |
| 12:01.35 | oliford | meanwhile, back in kernel land... |
| 12:02.01 | oliford | I've made packages/linux/linux-hpipaq214-2.6.25-v3.bb by following a few other in that dir |
| 12:02.47 | oliford | i tried 'bitbake linux-hpipaq214-2.6.25-v3' to build it but i cant find it. Do I have to do bitbake -b thefile or should it find it itself |
| 12:03.05 | oliford | *it can't find |
| 12:03.22 | cyrilRomain | oliford: you can indeed use 'bitbake -b path_to_file.bb', but |
| 12:03.30 | pH5 | oliford: separate recipe name and version with "_", not "-" |
| 12:03.39 | oliford | ok |
| 12:03.56 | cyrilRomain | you should call linux-hpipaq214-2.6.25-v3.bb linux-hpipaq214_2.6.25-v3.bb instead |
| 12:04.32 | oliford | i'll do so when bitbake allows me some of my processor time back |
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| 12:37.07 | Crofton|work | Is there a timeline to move the oe.net to oe.org? |
| 12:37.25 | Crofton|work | some of the .org pages are broken (getting started) |
| 12:38.57 | dcordes | is something wron with .org? |
| 12:39.17 | dcordes | oh pages I read packages.. |
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| 16:02.26 | mickeyl | how are you measuring network performance. is there anything lighter than netperf? |
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| 16:05.21 | likewise | mickeyl: there is nc (netcat) |
| 16:05.49 | likewise | mickeyl: or did you ask someone specific? (seems to be an irc netsplit, i missed out) |
| 16:06.03 | mickeyl | no, that was just into the room. thasks |
| 16:06.05 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 16:06.35 | likewise | mickeyl: nc is like cat, but over a socket. One end does listen (-l), the other just cats. |
| 16:06.59 | mickeyl | right. although that needs a server at the other end |
| 16:07.09 | likewise | mickeyl: nc can be the server |
| 16:07.31 | mickeyl | sure, but still it needs special preparing |
| 16:07.45 | mickeyl | ideally it would be something over http |
| 16:07.51 | mickeyl | that i can use with any other site |
| 16:07.56 | NAbyss | mickeyl: curl? bing? |
| 16:08.27 | mickeyl | bing! |
| 16:08.42 | mickeyl | that seems very light |
| 16:08.44 | NAbyss | been a while since I've used bing, but it seems sane |
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| 16:19.28 | mwester | re |
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| 18:26.33 | keesj | OMG, my newly acquired dreambox use OE |
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| 18:41.44 | woglinde | keesj didnt you know? |
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| 19:00.35 | keesj | nope |
| 19:00.46 | woglinde | hehe *g* |
| 19:01.00 | woglinde | ~dreambox |
| 19:01.06 | woglinde | hm |
| 19:01.10 | woglinde | ~pastebin |
| 19:01.11 | ibot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 19:04.38 | keesj | I have an oldy (dm600pvr) |
| 19:06.04 | woglinde | ~seen tmbinc |
| 19:06.07 | ibot | tmbinc <i=abcd@83.141.3.59> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 19d 4h 18m 44s ago, saying: 'cdrtools is only available in native-form, and I definitely want to avoid looking into the schily makefile system'. |
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| 19:12.29 | methril|laptop | hi |
| 19:14.17 | keesj | woglinde: you worked on dreambox? |
| 19:14.38 | woglinde | keesj nope |
| 19:14.41 | kergoth | rofl, http://www.viksoe.dk/code/asmil.htm |
| 19:14.45 | woglinde | but I know some developer |
| 19:15.40 | woglinde | *g* Go pick on someone else (like LISP programmers. I don't like them). |
| 19:15.49 | woglinde | from kergoth's link |
| 19:16.30 | mwester | Oh, be nice to the LISP programmers, they're like antiques. Pick in Java programmers. :D |
| 19:16.45 | woglinde | but a funny Idea |
| 19:17.06 | woglinde | 386 asm converter to .net |
| 19:18.52 | woglinde | oh its from 2001 |
| 19:22.30 | keesj | it's the start of a .net x86 emulator i guess |
| 19:22.48 | keesj | perhaps not |
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| 19:45.30 | oliford | I'm having trouble bitbake'ing a package called sqlite3. It says "No such file or directory" in do_rm_work_all |
| 19:45.56 | oliford | its not really giving any info i can use to work out whats happening, without going through the python source (of bitbake?) |
| 19:48.04 | oliford | oh, its now giving the error when i run bitbake at all |
| 19:48.58 | oliford | ok, it seems to have broken its own environment |
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| 20:47.47 | keesj | oliford: a good place to start is to look in the scripts generated by bitbake you can find them in "tmp/*/work/item/temp" |
| 20:48.49 | keesj | ifcon |
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| 21:08.39 | Spyro | Hi guys |
| 21:08.52 | Spyro | Im trying to set up a bitbake recipie for e-series. |
| 21:09.22 | Spyro | I've created a local.conf with MACHINE="eseries_pxa" |
| 21:09.32 | Spyro | and a "eseries_pxa.conf" file |
| 21:10.06 | Spyro | with PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-eseries-2.6_git" |
| 21:10.19 | Spyro | but it insists on trying to build the hh.org kernel |
| 21:10.33 | Spyro | any idea why ? |
| 21:10.58 | oliford | yes, i'm having that problem too, although mine is trying to build just about every kernel |
| 21:13.04 | Spyro | its not very clear to me how all the various conf and .bb files fit together... |
| 21:20.10 | oliford | hmm, now libqte has broken by making a directory that is _actually_ called "libqte-opie-${OPIE_CVS_PV}-r2" |
| 21:24.52 | oliford | I wasn't intending to have anything todo with OPIE so what's going on there? |
| 21:25.05 | Spyro | its incomprehensibel... |
| 21:25.31 | oliford | maybe I'll try setting that var... |
| 21:25.36 | oliford | oh |
| 21:25.48 | oliford | much failure |
| 21:27.53 | Spyro | gah! |
| 21:28.02 | Spyro | NOTE: multiple providers are available for virtual/kernel (linux-handhelds-2.6, linux, c7x0-kernels-2.4-embedix, collie-kernels-2.4-embedix, shepherd-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-bast, linux-bd-neon-2.6, linux-omap-2.6, gumstix-kernel, linux-rt); |
| 21:28.02 | Spyro | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel |
| 21:28.09 | Spyro | I _did_ set that |
| 21:28.14 | Spyro | it just ignores it :-( |
| 21:31.15 | Spyro | any bitbake experts here ? |
| 21:31.47 | woglinde | spyro sure you set it? |
| 21:31.50 | woglinde | run bitbake -i |
| 21:32.36 | woglinde | and type PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel |
| 21:34.43 | Spyro | ok |
| 21:35.06 | Spyro | BB>> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel |
| 21:35.07 | Spyro | SHELL: ERROR: 'PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel' command is not a valid command. |
| 21:35.07 | Spyro | BB>> |
| 21:36.53 | woglinde | ups |
| 21:36.55 | woglinde | getvar |
| 21:36.57 | woglinde | sorry |
| 21:37.05 | woglinde | getvar PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel |
| 21:37.28 | woglinde | where did you set it? |
| 21:37.29 | woglinde | in local.conf? |
| 21:39.14 | Spyro | it shows linux-eseries-2.6_git |
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| 21:39.22 | Spyro | which matches the name of the .bb file I created |
| 21:39.36 | Spyro | no ,its set in machine/eseries_pxa |
| 21:39.58 | oliford | i wondered if this was because I had MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 ..." in my conf file |
| 21:40.02 | Spyro | why does it get it wrong when I try to build then ? |
| 21:40.28 | oliford | it now only seems to want to build my kernel (which fails for other reasons). but I've done so much fiddling I don't know what fixed it |
| 21:41.03 | Spyro | oliford: mine knows which kernel to build apparently but just doesnt do it anyway, and builds some random one |
| 21:41.43 | oliford | yes, thats what mine did |
| 21:41.55 | oliford | it tried to build 'em all |
| 21:42.18 | oliford | but now doesn't. Can't tell you why though, sorry |
| 21:42.31 | Spyro | darn |
| 21:42.33 | woglinde | Spyro spyro hm this machine recipe isnt in oe |
| 21:42.44 | Spyro | woglinde: no Im trying to create it |
| 21:43.19 | woglinde | ah |
| 21:44.23 | woglinde | could you binpaste it? |
| 21:44.40 | Spyro | got a pastebin ahandy ? |
| 21:44.49 | woglinde | ~pastebin |
| 21:44.50 | ibot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 21:44.54 | woglinde | *g* |
| 21:45.01 | woglinde | ibot snack |
| 21:45.02 | ibot | ACTION belches loudly. Oup, 'begpardon. |
| 21:45.17 | Spyro | http://pastebin.com/m7c961310 |
| 21:46.00 | woglinde | spyro in local.conf you should set MACHINE= and perhaps MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION = "2.6" |
| 21:46.23 | Spyro | I have MACHINE="eseries_pxa" |
| 21:46.30 | woglinde | spyro a thats the kernel.bb |
| 21:46.35 | woglinde | but not the machine conf |
| 21:46.54 | Spyro | I have eseries_pxa.conf if you want to see that too ? |
| 21:47.05 | woglinde | yes |
| 21:47.13 | woglinde | bb looks fine so far |
| 21:47.58 | Spyro | http://pastebin.com/d3de758bb |
| 21:48.06 | woglinde | how did you name the kernel .bb? |
| 21:48.35 | Spyro | org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-eseries-2.6_git.bb |
| 21:51.12 | woglinde | hmhm |
| 21:51.17 | woglinde | this should work |
| 21:51.37 | woglinde | which distro? |
| 21:51.54 | woglinde | could you pastebin the local.conf too? |
| 21:53.33 | Spyro | http://pastebin.com/m33f5159b |
| 21:53.35 | Spyro | angstrom |
| 21:53.41 | Spyro | woglinde: thanks for the help btw :) |
| 21:56.04 | woglinde | hm which machine you have? that you can set PARALLEL_MAKE = "-j 8" |
| 21:56.35 | woglinde | if you have this power you should consider to set BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "2" or more |
| 21:57.38 | Spyro | ooh, thanks! |
| 21:57.59 | woglinde | hm |
| 21:58.04 | woglinde | whats bitbake -i |
| 21:58.10 | Spyro | I have a dual core AM2 Athlon64 X2 2.2GHz with 8GB DDR2/800 |
| 21:58.11 | woglinde | getvar MACHINE saying? |
| 21:58.31 | Spyro | eseries_pxa |
| 21:59.06 | woglinde | and PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ? |
| 21:59.27 | Spyro | linux-eseries-2.6_git |
| 21:59.51 | woglinde | okay |
| 21:59.55 | woglinde | ah |
| 21:59.57 | woglinde | mom |
| 22:01.30 | woglinde | hm it should work |
| 22:01.48 | woglinde | whats happen when you type bitbake linux? |
| 22:02.13 | woglinde | ah I am dump |
| 22:02.19 | woglinde | DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" |
| 22:02.21 | woglinde | hehe |
| 22:02.30 | woglinde | thats prevent it from build |
| 22:02.34 | woglinde | lol |
| 22:02.47 | woglinde | I didnt notice it earlier |
| 22:03.20 | woglinde | DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" we use mostly when we check in newer version which than arent the default version to build |
| 22:03.38 | woglinde | so every can test and breaks no build |
| 22:03.47 | woglinde | or functional |
| 22:03.56 | Spyro | oh |
| 22:03.58 | Spyro | bugger :) |
| 22:04.37 | Spyro | *trying again* |
| 22:05.45 | Spyro | ...handling bitbake files... |
| 22:06.21 | oliford | yea, i got rid of everything from the one i copied that I didn't understand |
| 22:06.37 | Spyro | oliford: you work like I do :) |
| 22:06.45 | Spyro | *argh!* |
| 22:06.49 | oliford | it's ending up in the wrong dir though when it tries to build the kernel |
| 22:06.56 | Spyro | NOTE: multiple providers are available for virtual/kernel (linux-handhelds-2.6, linux, c7x0-kernels-2.4-embedix, collie-kernels-2.4-embedix, shepherd-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-bast, linux-bd-neon-2.6, linux-omap-2.6, gumstix-kernel, linux-rt); |
| 22:06.57 | Spyro | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel |
| 22:08.10 | Spyro | woglinde: any idea? |
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| 22:11.26 | Spyro | ? |
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| 22:15.20 | woglinde | did you delete the line DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" ? |
| 22:15.27 | Spyro | yes |
| 22:16.13 | woglinde | hm try run bitbake -DDD linux and lookout if it skips your .bb |
| 22:17.18 | Spyro | gah! increasing the number of threads makes BB hard to kill :) |
| 22:20.55 | Spyro | it produces a massive amount of output |
| 22:22.01 | woglinde | spyro hehe yes |
| 22:22.22 | woglinde | but than I am out of ideas |
| 22:23.23 | oliford | is there a way I can it to not do all of the kernel module stuff? My kernel is currently all compiled in |
| 22:23.49 | Spyro | DEBUG: File '/home/ian/projects/eseries/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-eseries-2.6_git.bb' is unbuildable, removing... |
| 22:23.50 | Spyro | aha |
| 22:24.05 | Spyro | what does that mean ? |
| 22:24.11 | Spyro | (besides the obvious) |
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| 22:48.36 | Spyro | hm. its lookint for TARGET_PREFIX-depmod |
| 22:48.47 | Spyro | why?! |
| 22:50.17 | Spyro | kernel class seems to be the cause |
| 22:50.27 | Spyro | but all the kernel images use that and they work |
| 22:50.32 | woglinde | hm |
| 22:51.47 | woglinde | dont why this is strange with depmod |
| 22:52.35 | Spyro | I think I fixed it |
| 22:52.58 | Spyro | found a line in another machine file that looks like it sorts it |
| 22:53.01 | Spyro | *testing* |
| 22:56.50 | Spyro | oops. *testing take 2* |
| 22:57.25 | Spyro | oe _really_ needs some kind of automatic weed-out-unbuildable-crap check run on it periodically... |
| 22:59.09 | Spyro | shit. still no-build |
| 23:00.22 | Spyro | hm, possibly a missed '-' character |
| 23:00.55 | Spyro | is there a way to tell BB what changed so it doesnt have to rebuild the entire cache _every_ _single_ _time_ ? |
| 23:01.10 | woglinde | uh? |
| 23:01.11 | woglinde | hm |
| 23:01.24 | Spyro | every time I change my machine def it rebuilds the cache |
| 23:01.32 | woglinde | only when you change local.conf or seroius toolchains stuff |
| 23:01.43 | woglinde | kernel is serious toolchain stuff |
| 23:02.05 | Spyro | woglinde: yeah but Im not changing that Im just adding one PREF_PROVIDER line to the machine def. |
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