| 00:51.46 | Crofton|work | khem, I think we have tried 4.3 on the beagle |
| 00:53.14 | Crofton|work | http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/893374ac8ff737b4/72650275e52a940c?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=koen+compiler#72650275e52a940c |
| 01:09.45 | jaredj | i'm lazy. i want to talk over the d-bus, but i don't already know glib and i don't care to write my nearly trivial d-bus program in c. |
| 01:10.23 | jaredj | what (if anything) do people use for a high-level interpreted language in the embedded environment? |
| 01:10.55 | jaredj | (i mean if this were a 16-bit microcontroller i would write C. i also wouldn't be running linux.) |
| 01:11.39 | Tv | python works well enough for me, and has nice dbus bindings iirc ;) |
| 01:11.59 | jaredj | yes but it's big |
| 01:12.24 | jaredj | odds are i'll need to do the microSD root thing to step up from 16MB to 2GB - but i haven't yet |
| 01:12.32 | Tv | i'm looking at an .ext2.gz that's 8MB |
| 01:12.40 | jaredj | *eyebrow* |
| 01:13.35 | jaredj | so you just took out most of /usr/lib/python2.x? |
| 01:13.49 | Tv | pretty much went with the defaults |
| 01:13.59 | Tv | no X though |
| 01:14.09 | jaredj | yeh - hmm |
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| 01:15.11 | jaredj | i'm at 7.6M w/o python already |
| 01:15.19 | Tv | heh, python-core is half a meg |
| 01:15.30 | Tv | note that was .gz size |
| 01:15.34 | jaredj | yes. |
| 01:15.49 | Tv | it's a 20+ MB image because there's still flash left over ;) |
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| 01:32.04 | jaredj | garh! i try to bitbake python-dbus and it builds X :( |
| 01:40.28 | khem | Crofton|work: hey |
| 01:40.43 | Crofton|work | hi |
| 01:41.08 | khem | Crofton|work: is it the plain gcc 4.3 you tried ? |
| 01:41.14 | khem | or the csl something |
| 01:41.21 | Crofton|work | plain gcc |
| 01:41.24 | khem | cool |
| 01:41.25 | Crofton|work | koen did the test |
| 01:41.31 | Crofton|work | did the link work? |
| 01:41.33 | khem | what image did you try |
| 01:41.55 | Crofton|work | console-image? |
| 01:41.57 | Crofton|work | not sure |
| 01:42.21 | khem | ok |
| 01:42.36 | khem | hmmm there is a problem |
| 01:42.48 | Crofton|work | ? |
| 01:42.51 | khem | Were you able to compile libusb ? |
| 01:43.13 | Crofton|work | not sure |
| 01:43.22 | khem | I haven't reached to bottom of it |
| 01:43.31 | Crofton|work | personally, I have only tried "working" combinations |
| 01:43.34 | khem | but it seems the includes confuse the gcc |
| 01:44.02 | Crofton|work | 4.3 and libusb? |
| 01:44.08 | khem | Crofton|work: yes |
| 01:44.20 | khem | the symptom shows up |
| 01:44.28 | khem | lemme point you to my build log |
| 01:45.15 | khem | http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/public/logs/167241.txt |
| 01:45.28 | khem | it can not find stdlib.h |
| 01:45.39 | khem | same commandline works well with gcc 4.2.2 |
| 01:45.50 | khem | Two things can happen |
| 01:46.16 | khem | Either the includes are hosed up or compiler include search is hosed up |
| 01:46.43 | Crofton|work | I also do glibc builds |
| 01:49.06 | khem | glibc build should work |
| 01:50.04 | khem | Crofton|work: do you have 4.3 installed somewhere and handy ? |
| 01:50.14 | Crofton | not at the moment |
| 01:50.25 | Crofton | we backed of to 4.2.x for beagle |
| 01:50.36 | Crofton | we are still debuging basic stuff |
| 01:51.25 | khem | ok |
| 01:51.48 | khem | is beagle board port still new ? |
| 01:52.13 | khem | http://beagleboard.org/ |
| 01:53.02 | khem | wow omap3530 |
| 01:53.48 | khem | Crofton: The boards must be expensive |
| 01:54.33 | khem | $150 hmm |
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| 08:25.50 | CIA-22 | sablevm: fix download dir, now sourceforge |
| 08:25.50 | CIA-22 | * patch was provided by Elena "of Valhalla" |
| 08:25.50 | CIA-22 | * bug 4320 can not be closed, because it was filed against stable |
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| 08:31.51 | hrw | morning |
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| 08:40.25 | CIA-22 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r53e608ae... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:40.25 | CIA-22 | gdb-cross-sdk: include patches from the gdb-cross package for version 6.6 |
| 08:40.25 | CIA-22 | * bump PR |
| 08:40.25 | CIA-22 | * rework SRC_URI for gdb-cross 6.6 too, no need to bump the PR |
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| 10:30.00 | CIA-22 | * reasons are some security fixes |
| 10:30.00 | CIA-22 | * seems to build fine and runs fine so no DEFAULT_PREFERENCES |
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| 12:45.32 | zecke | gints: aeh? |
| 12:45.56 | zecke | gints: that is native curses? |
| 12:46.03 | gints | no |
| 12:46.08 | gints | hi zecke |
| 12:46.24 | zecke | gints: well, you have to be more precise ;) |
| 12:46.40 | gints | I try put output of log .. moment |
| 12:46.46 | zecke | gints: unlikely that a compile of uclibc needs curses.h as curses needs a libc :) |
| 12:47.34 | gints | it's like gcc-cross-initial step |
| 12:49.54 | gints | http://pastebin.ca/1038587 |
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| 13:33.09 | Laibsch | ping cbrake about mediawiki |
| 13:33.30 | Laibsch | dito hrw and mickey_away |
| 13:34.03 | hrw | Laibsch: +1 from me as always |
| 13:34.17 | Laibsch | hrw: good |
| 13:34.17 | mickey_away | +1 |
| 13:34.38 | Laibsch | the question was, are you willing to act as backup admins for the wiki ;-) |
| 13:34.48 | Laibsch | so, you both agreed ;-) |
| 13:35.16 | mickey_away | eeks |
| 13:35.18 | mickey_away | ;) |
| 13:35.22 | Laibsch | cbrake had committed publically, I'll do the same, so we should have enough redundancy |
| 13:36.11 | Laibsch | I think there were some volunteers during previous discussions about mediawiki. I'll dig up those contacts and ask them, too, if it makes sense. |
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| 13:37.11 | XorA | did we elect a wiki team? |
| 13:37.33 | hrw | one person team: Laibsch ;) |
| 13:37.40 | XorA | reminds me, I really should resign from angstrom core team |
| 13:38.02 | XorA | hrw: as long as we make it formal that he is Wiki team leader, then Im happy |
| 13:38.18 | Laibsch | cbrake volunteered, too |
| 13:38.22 | Laibsch | so |
| 13:38.29 | Laibsch | Currently, we have cbrake and me as main admins, hrw and mickey for standby in case the mysql server needs a kick or some such. |
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| 13:39.33 | hrw | Laibsch: I am not admin in OE |
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| 13:39.56 | Laibsch | OK, that can be helped |
| 13:39.57 | hrw | XorA: you are not they only one |
| 13:40.16 | Laibsch | hrw: Depending on what makes sense |
| 13:40.24 | Laibsch | either admin role in wiki soft |
| 13:40.28 | Laibsch | sudo powers |
| 13:40.31 | Laibsch | or full root |
| 13:40.48 | Laibsch | I want some redundancy |
| 13:41.19 | Laibsch | Not because I think the work will be overwhelming, but becuase redundancy is the right thing to have[tm] |
| 13:42.24 | mickey_away | XorA: ya, i should, too |
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| 13:44.05 | XorA | not because I hate Angstrom, but I have so little free time |
| 13:44.08 | Laibsch | mickey_away: How about some security updates while we are at it? They are at least three weeks overdue |
| 13:44.21 | XorA | and I must ebay my zaurus |
| 13:44.32 | Laibsch | proposes unattended-updates for security updates |
| 13:44.42 | Laibsch | mickey_away: OK with you? |
| 13:45.02 | mickey_away | sure |
| 13:45.22 | Laibsch | OK |
| 13:45.36 | Laibsch | wow, debian stable has 1.7 mediawiki |
| 13:45.44 | Laibsch | Let's see if that is sufficient |
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| 14:01.23 | Laibsch | wrt to bug 3938, is there a problem to unconditionally rmmod a module even if not present in most circumstances? Why does Yan seem to need rmmod in addition to "pccardctl eject"? |
| 14:03.52 | udovdh | hello |
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| 14:05.07 | udovdh | where can QA logging normally be found? |
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| 14:20.42 | Laibsch | udovdh: Try "find $OETEMP|grep -i qa|grep log" to find out |
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| 14:21.18 | Laibsch | mickeyl: can you please point wiki.openembedded.net to amethyst? |
| 14:21.44 | udovdh | Laibsch, running find... |
| 14:22.29 | udovdh | found something! |
| 14:22.32 | udovdh | thanks |
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| 14:24.39 | udovdh | added the findings to http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4348#c2 |
| 14:24.40 | CIA-24 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7dc73088... 10/ (1 packages/abiword/abiword_2.6.3.bb): abiword 2.6.3: tweak packaging |
| 14:24.53 | udovdh | any idea about fixing? (if at all) |
| 14:25.50 | udovdh | is the QA erroring because of the host system? (Fedora 9 on x86_64) |
| 14:25.54 | udovdh | or the recipe? |
| 14:26.03 | udovdh | or the sources? |
| 14:26.31 | udovdh | 'evil hides inside the .la, staging, /staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libmudflap.la' ???? |
| 14:31.10 | hrw | bye |
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| 14:33.39 | udovdh | Laibsch, got any idea about the evil I found? |
| 14:35.00 | jadam | can anyone point me in the right direction on how to build a single module using bitbake? |
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| 14:35.33 | udovdh | .la contains installed=yes ? |
| 14:35.39 | udovdh | what is that for a problem? |
| 14:38.28 | udovdh | so it is my .la files |
| 14:38.35 | udovdh | how could I fix them? |
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| 14:52.33 | cbrake | Laibsch: I'd be glad to help in any way I can |
| 14:52.46 | Laibsch | great |
| 14:52.56 | Laibsch | I am currently installing mediawiki from backports |
| 14:53.07 | Laibsch | once mickeyl has updated dns we can start rolling |
| 14:53.25 | Laibsch | cbrake: are you aware of any moin2mediawiki converter? |
| 14:53.37 | Laibsch | I think there are some, but I'd need to check it out |
| 14:53.49 | cbrake | Laibsch: I have not looked recently |
| 14:54.04 | Laibsch | well, maybe it would be better to start from scratch anyway |
| 14:54.06 | cbrake | Laibsch: are we going to try to convert the old-old OE wiki? |
| 14:54.14 | Laibsch | and hand-pick the most important pages to copy over |
| 14:54.15 | cbrake | Laibsch: I'd vote starting from scratch |
| 14:54.20 | cbrake | Laibsch: agreed |
| 14:54.21 | Laibsch | it's OK |
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| 14:54.52 | Laibsch | I'd probably copy the stuff under policy that I kept in shape, plus the last know-good FAQ maybe |
| 14:55.03 | Laibsch | we should have a brief look through what is applicable |
| 14:56.03 | cbrake | Laibsch: sounds good |
| 14:56.32 | florian | Laibsch: oe wiki is not mail imho |
| 14:57.00 | CIA-24 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0853a10f... 10/ (9 files in 4 dirs): angstrom led config: initscript that applies led config from /etc/default/leds |
| 14:57.46 | Laibsch | florian: ? |
| 14:57.49 | Laibsch | mail? |
| 14:58.24 | florian | eh sorry - "moin" |
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| 14:58.41 | Laibsch | ah, yes right |
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| 14:58.56 | Laibsch | drupal plugin with mediawiki syntax, right? |
| 14:59.06 | Laibsch | I am always mistaken about that |
| 14:59.17 | Laibsch | Should make it easier to copy over that odd page or two |
| 14:59.58 | florian | votes for taking care about not loosing content |
| 15:01.31 | cbrake | Laibsch: looks like the OeFaq page is gone ... ohh, well it was getting pretty crusty anyway |
| 15:07.43 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: the new page is gonna be mediawiki based? on the list you discussed mediawiki+git, is that happening? |
| 15:08.04 | Laibsch | mediawiki+git? |
| 15:08.11 | Laibsch | Don't remember |
| 15:08.16 | Laibsch | very unlikely |
| 15:08.35 | Laibsch | if there is an addon, we might support that *later* in case people want it |
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| 15:11.48 | summatusmentis | there was discussion about allowing for offline editing/control revisions |
| 15:13.06 | hrw|gone | it was ikiwiki not mediawiki iirc |
| 15:13.30 | summatusmentis | right, and then potential ways to make mediawiki have that functionality |
| 15:13.32 | hrw|gone | -> gone now |
| 15:13.41 | summatusmentis | it doesn't look like it's definitive, I was just curious |
| 15:14.09 | florian | hi rschuster |
| 15:14.30 | rschuster | hi florian |
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| 18:05.16 | woglinde | hi ph5 |
| 18:05.52 | udovdh | 'evil hides inside the .la, staging, /staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libmudflap.la' |
| 18:06.01 | udovdh | anyone knows a fix or solution for that? |
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| 18:06.24 | woglinde | udovdh whats wrong with libmudflap.la? |
| 18:06.42 | udovdh | that is the QA log entry |
| 18:06.48 | udovdh | after a navit bitbake |
| 18:06.58 | udovdh | part of the QA log, ther's a lot more |
| 18:07.07 | udovdh | I need to understand that 'evil' part |
| 18:07.11 | udovdh | and know how to fix it |
| 18:07.29 | udovdh | bottom of http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4348 |
| 18:07.32 | woglinde | could you pastebin it |
| 18:07.33 | woglinde | ah |
| 18:07.34 | woglinde | okay |
| 18:08.01 | udovdh | I found the qa logging and that is what it says (also one other .la issue) for multiple files |
| 18:08.22 | woglinde | is that stable or dev? |
| 18:08.38 | udovdh | angstrom is dev |
| 18:08.41 | udovdh | navit is cvs |
| 18:08.56 | udovdh | no |
| 18:08.59 | udovdh | angstrom is stable. |
| 18:09.05 | udovdh | navit is dev |
| 18:09.16 | udovdh | because navit needs to run on 2007.12 |
| 18:09.20 | woglinde | what? |
| 18:09.22 | udovdh | so I pull navit from their svn |
| 18:09.44 | udovdh | the angstrom repo only has older versions of navit pre-built |
| 18:09.47 | woglinde | hm seems no one backports some stage thinks from dev which take for the .la files |
| 18:09.52 | udovdh | and I want to be able to use the svn of navit |
| 18:10.07 | udovdh | what do la files do? |
| 18:10.11 | udovdh | I know so and ar etc |
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| 18:10.23 | udovdh | so it is an oe/angstrom issue? |
| 18:10.35 | udovdh | I also have a number of these when I make x11-image |
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| 18:10.38 | udovdh | and mtd-utils |
| 18:10.43 | woglinde | .la files is for libtool it tolds libtool how to link against librarys |
| 18:10.44 | udovdh | see (my) bugs |
| 18:10.50 | udovdh | yes |
| 18:10.55 | woglinde | ask koen to fix it |
| 18:10.58 | woglinde | for stable |
| 18:11.11 | udovdh | via email? maillist? is he in irc? |
| 18:11.41 | woglinde | mailinglist and point tothe bug |
| 18:11.52 | udovdh | ok, weill have a look at oe maillist then. |
| 18:11.54 | udovdh | tahnks |
| 18:11.56 | udovdh | thanks |
| 18:13.07 | Laibsch | cbrake, summatusmentis: please create yourselves an account at http://wiki.openembedded.net |
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| 18:13.39 | Laibsch | Let me know about suggestions you may have |
| 18:14.14 | slapin_nb | hi, all! |
| 18:14.28 | slapin_nb | anybody tried to nuild ctorrent lately? |
| 18:14.49 | slapin_nb | s/nuild/build |
| 18:14.53 | woglinde | hi slapin long time not seen |
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| 18:21.15 | woglinde | hi crofton |
| 18:21.43 | Crofton | gm |
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| 18:25.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4355 has been created by <Laibsch> |
| 18:25.09 | cdbot2 | * * spam protection |
| 18:25.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4355 |
| 18:26.27 | Laibsch | slapin: I think I did |
| 18:26.33 | Laibsch | I also did some work on it |
| 18:26.42 | Laibsch | do you have any problems with it? |
| 18:28.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4356 has been created by <Laibsch> |
| 18:28.09 | cdbot2 | * * decide on some wiki policies |
| 18:28.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4356 |
| 18:31.50 | pb__ | hi zecke, mickeyl |
| 18:32.08 | zecke | pb__: master. |
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| 18:37.52 | woglinde | hi pb |
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| 19:09.42 | pb__ | hi woglinde |
| 19:10.31 | woglinde | rp ping |
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| 19:18.32 | loudawg | hi all, it seems that whenever I update the OE dev branch, any attempts to re-build my image (x11-gpe-image) always fail at some package (in my current case, uclibc). However, like the last time this happened, I bet if I wiped out my build/tmp directory and let it rebuild everything from scratch, the image would complete successfully. Is there something I can do to avoid having to start from square one every time I update? |
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| 19:21.34 | woglinde | loudawg use stable |
| 19:21.41 | woglinde | dev can brake often |
| 19:21.48 | woglinde | thats why its dev |
| 19:22.49 | loudawg | woglinde, I don't think that's the problem. I think it's a bitbake issue or something where it doesn't clean and rebuild all of the appropriate dependencies. That's my guess anyway. The fact that I can wipe everything out and THEN it will build successfully is what makes me think this |
| 19:24.39 | loudawg | the funny thing is, the last time I tried using stable it was a bigger headache than dev was, so I ditched it |
| 19:25.23 | loudawg | is there a way to tell bitbake to rebuild not only the specified package, but all of its dependencies as well? |
| 19:26.37 | woglinde | liudawg??? glibc an gcc changes are much often |
| 19:26.51 | woglinde | and it runs not always clean when you recompile gcc |
| 19:27.04 | woglinde | because a patch was applied |
| 19:31.14 | jadam | hello, what is the easiest way to build an extra kernel module using bitbake? |
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| 19:32.00 | woglinde | jadam look at the madwifi.bb |
| 19:32.07 | woglinde | or hostap.bb |
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| 19:40.21 | CIA-24 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * rd81f21e7... 10/ (1 packages/gdb/gdb-cross-sdk_6.6.bb): |
| 19:40.21 | CIA-24 | gdb-cross-sdk: remove sim-install-6.6.patch |
| 19:40.22 | CIA-24 | * this patch does nothing reasonable |
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| 19:47.43 | cbrake | Laibsch: great -- will start working on it tomorrow morning :-) |
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| 20:09.29 | slapin_nb | Laibsch, I had problems yesterday it did not build (failed to do_install, IIRC), have ever been any changes since then? ver 3.x is chosen in my case. |
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| 20:23.15 | hernan_martinez | hello |
| 20:34.12 | hernan_martinez | hi there |
| 20:35.40 | like2wise | HopsNBarley: hi |
| 20:35.43 | like2wise | hernan_martinez: hi |
| 20:36.11 | HopsNBarley | hi like2wise |
| 20:36.25 | HopsNBarley | had coffee with Khem the other day. great guy. |
| 20:36.32 | woglinde | hi hopsnbarley |
| 20:36.55 | like2wise | HopsNBarley: shhh, he is listening in :-) |
| 20:37.10 | HopsNBarley | oh crap! |
| 20:37.48 | hernan_martinez | hi |
| 20:38.14 | hernan_martinez | the lib cheaders version .. do you know where i set its version? |
| 20:38.40 | hernan_martinez | i didnt to anything and it starts saying that my 2.6.25 prefered version is not found, and it fallbacks to 2.6.23 |
| 20:38.44 | like2wise | HopsNBarley: good to see the OE community grow, not only online |
| 20:39.01 | hernan_martinez | libc headers* |
| 20:39.45 | like2wise | hernan_martinez: check if the kernel is there for your platform. AFAIK, linux_2.6.25.bb only is "unlocked" for some powerpc board and maybe something else. |
| 20:40.04 | like2wise | hernan_martinez: ah, the headers might not even be in OE... don't know. |
| 20:40.17 | hernan_martinez | its okay , i dont needthe .2.6.25 i am okay with 2.6.23 |
| 20:40.25 | hernan_martinez | but my kernel version is defaulting to 2.6.21 |
| 20:40.51 | hernan_martinez | i tried changing my local.conf but bitbake -s still returns linux - 2.6.21 |
| 20:41.00 | hernan_martinez | and libc-headers - 2.6.23 |
| 20:41.21 | like2wise | hernan_martinez: same thing, read packages/linux/linux-...bb and check if DEFAULT_PREFERENCE != -1 for your platform. |
| 20:41.34 | hernan_martinez | ok |
| 20:41.35 | hernan_martinez | tks |
| 20:45.25 | hernan_martinez | -1 is to lock it? |
| 20:46.06 | cyrilRomain | hernan_martinez: DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" prevent bitbake from choosing it in the dependency tree |
| 20:46.20 | hernan_martinez | ok |
| 20:46.30 | hernan_martinez | yes, my 2.6.23 was with -1 |
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| 20:47.39 | cyrilRomain | hernan_martinez: it probably was for a good reason. Looks at the log maybe you will find why |
| 20:47.45 | thesing | hi everybody |
| 20:47.48 | like2wise | hernan_martinez: then you are the "first" to use that kernel for your platform. It probably does not have a "defconfig" yet in a sub-dir. |
| 20:48.03 | hernan_martinez | it was -1 for def_pref.. but it was 1 for a couple of other machines |
| 20:48.21 | hernan_martinez | its interesting that deselecting SMP on new kernels i get a FATAL: kernel too old from glibc I guess, since init says that the kernel is too old |
| 20:48.23 | Fidget | I'd like to override some files from base-files with my own custom version, is there any recommended method of achieving this? |
| 20:49.09 | Fidget | I'd like not to duplicate the entire base-files package, I just want to extend it to use some of my files instead. |
| 20:49.10 | thesing | Fidget: of course. Just look at the basefiles dir. There are many examples. |
| 20:49.21 | Fidget | thesing: what examples? |
| 20:49.48 | woglinde | hi thesing |
| 20:50.02 | thesing | have a look at the files dir. |
| 20:50.17 | Fidget | thesing: :) |
| 20:52.17 | CIA-24 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r3d5d2241... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:52.17 | CIA-24 | gdb-cross-sdk: add dependency on ncurses-cross-sdk |
| 20:52.17 | CIA-24 | * stolen from poky, courtesy to Richard Purdie |
| 20:52.21 | CIA-24 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * rbcb31dc3... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 20:52.21 | CIA-24 | gdb-cross: fix some stuff for version 6.6 6.8 |
| 20:52.21 | CIA-24 | * remove sim-install-6.6.patch, it is the same patch as |
| 20:52.21 | CIA-24 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.23 | CIA-24 | * drop early_debug_in_nptl.patch for 6.8 because it is long time applied |
| 20:52.25 | CIA-24 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.27 | CIA-24 | * bump PR for both |
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| 20:52.55 | Tartarus | Oooh |
| 20:53.07 | Tartarus | I think that means my gdb-cross bug can be closed |
| 20:53.10 | Tartarus | makes a note to check later |
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| 20:55.41 | woglinde | hi florian |
| 20:56.01 | florian | re |
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| 21:14.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4357 has been created by mmviii(AT)eclipticon.net |
| 21:14.09 | cdbot2 | * * ipkg update/upgrade renders HX4700 unusable |
| 21:14.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4357 |
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| 21:24.06 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4216 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by heinold(AT)inf.fu-berlin.de |
| 21:24.08 | cdbot2 | * * differ |
| 21:24.10 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4216 |
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| 21:36.46 | slapin_nb | Package ncurses wants to install file /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 But that file is already provided by package libncurses5. any ideas? |
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| 21:54.22 | Khem | like2wise: hey |
| 21:54.52 | woglinde | hi khem |
| 21:55.07 | Khem | woglinde: hi |
| 21:55.12 | woglinde | khem could please the bugs in the bugtracker when you apply your patches self |
| 21:55.17 | woglinde | +close |
| 21:55.24 | Khem | woglinde: will do |
| 21:55.40 | Khem | woglinde: I look once a week in the bugs concerning me. |
| 21:56.39 | Khem | woglinde: I am ploughing through gcc 4.3 still not able to build a console-image |
| 21:57.13 | woglinde | khem http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4331 for instance |
| 21:58.27 | Khem | woglinde: there was someone else who also said he had some patches for gcc 4.3 |
| 21:58.34 | Khem | so I kept it open |
| 21:58.56 | Khem | woglinde: I wish commits mails were also added to bugs as comments automatically |
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| 21:59.58 | woglinde | khem better close the bug and open a new one |
| 22:00.04 | woglinde | or open a meta bug |
| 22:01.02 | Khem | woglinde: ok will do |
| 22:01.37 | Khem | hmmm with gcc 4.3 I think we need to fix packages which have misused inline before |
| 22:01.56 | Khem | gcc 4.3 is complying to c99 now |
| 22:02.04 | woglinde | yes |
| 22:02.18 | Khem | avahi build failure |
| 22:02.23 | Khem | I am seeing demos this |
| 22:02.28 | woglinde | we should steal from distributions debian/redhat/gentoo/whatever |
| 22:02.35 | Khem | :) |
| 22:02.47 | Khem | I feel better if I reinvent the wheel |
| 22:03.22 | Khem | leaverage is the mangerial word for stealing :) |
| 22:04.47 | woglinde | it saves a lot of time |
| 22:05.09 | woglinde | not inventing the wheel again and again |
| 22:05.16 | Khem | yeah true |
| 22:06.30 | Khem | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=31389 |
| 22:08.20 | woglinde | over one year old |
| 22:11.17 | woglinde | khem but I didnt have a package yet which failed with gcc-4.3 koen fixed them all before me |
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| 22:14.24 | Khem | stealing |
| 22:14.42 | Khem | http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=136465 |
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| 22:15.11 | Khem | woglinde: what image are you building with gcc 4.3 |
| 22:15.22 | Khem | there are few problems that I am seeing |
| 22:15.31 | woglinde | oabi |
| 22:15.39 | Khem | eabi |
| 22:15.40 | woglinde | armv4 |
| 22:15.48 | Khem | angstrom-2008.1 |
| 22:15.58 | woglinde | but I cannt test all |
| 22:16.23 | Khem | right |
| 22:17.49 | Laibsch | ping cbrake |
| 22:23.06 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4331 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com |
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| 22:23.08 | cdbot2 | * * GCC 4.3.0 needs patches |
| 22:23.10 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4331 |
| 22:24.21 | Khem | woglinde: why do u still use oabi ? |
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| 22:26.43 | Khem | woglinde: hmm because you have armv4 ok got it. May be you should consider upgrading. |
| 22:26.50 | Khem | HopsNBarley: hey :) |
| 22:27.43 | woglinde | khem upgrade my simpad? |
| 22:27.50 | woglinde | replace the strongarm with what? |
| 22:28.15 | Laibsch | points out for Khem that he uses oabi too (for the collie) |
| 22:28.47 | Khem | woglinde: :) |
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| 22:29.00 | Khem | woglinde: is it armv4 in there or armv4t |
| 22:29.25 | woglinde | strongarm sa-1100 |
| 22:29.32 | woglinde | no thumb mode |
| 22:30.37 | Khem | ah th brutus not assabet |
| 22:31.22 | woglinde | ahno |
| 22:31.25 | woglinde | sa1110 |
| 22:31.50 | woglinde | damnit it, I always exchange this |
| 22:32.11 | woglinde | http://opensimpad.org/index.php/Hardware_Details |
| 22:32.35 | Khem | ok so its assabet based |
| 22:35.55 | Khem | still armv4 |
| 22:36.25 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:36.44 | Khem | its from 1995 |
| 22:36.45 | Fidget | If I want to override some machine specific base-files in my user.collection, is it possible to do that without duplicating the entire base-files package? |
| 22:37.49 | woglinde | fidget .bb or bbclass? |
| 22:38.51 | Fidget | woglinde: I have user.collection/packages/base-files/base-files/<machine>/fstab that I want to override org.oe/packages/base-files/base-files/<machine> |
| 22:39.11 | Fidget | I want to use the .bb in org.oe/packages/base-files/base-files_XYZ.bb |
| 22:41.10 | woglinde | fidget hm |
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| 22:41.52 | woglinde | fidget sorry dont know exactly how the overlay is working |
| 22:41.58 | Khem | Fidget: so you have a package in your collection that you do not want ? |
| 22:42.11 | woglinde | isnt is working as you suggest it |
| 22:42.26 | woglinde | khem I think the other way |
| 22:42.32 | Fidget | Khem: I have a package in org.oe and I want a few files from user.collection to override the files in the org.oe package |
| 22:42.37 | woglinde | he wants to overide the fstab from oe |
| 22:43.12 | Fidget | I'd like not to copy the entire base-files into my user collection |
| 22:43.24 | Fidget | I just want to override some specific files |
| 22:45.50 | Khem | give it a higher version |
| 22:46.04 | Khem | or PREFERENCE |
| 22:48.59 | cyrilRomain | wonders between using a collection, or managing patchset over oe with quilt/stgit (for now I always did the later) |
| 22:49.29 | CosmicPenguin | My advice is to go with the collection |
| 22:51.19 | Fidget | Khem: I really want overlays to be overlays, not just package overlays |
| 22:51.47 | Fidget | Khem: I hear overlay, and I think unionfs, which is not at all what oe attempts to do, its a first come first serve package search |
| 22:53.34 | Fidget | actually, that gives me an evil idea for a build system that relies on a unionfs system for merging a bunch of trees into a single namespace |
| 22:54.16 | Khem | Fidget: I have not used overlays so much |
| 22:54.29 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: if you use git, you'd better create a branch with your packages and modifications over oe files, that you rebase to keep in sync with oe |
| 22:54.42 | Khem | But I think if your collection appear first in search path then it should be searched first |
| 22:54.53 | Fidget | I have my own collection overlay |
| 22:55.18 | Fidget | the problem is that I have to create a full package, where all I want is to overlay a single file here and there |
| 22:55.33 | Fidget | so really I want the seperate collections |
| 22:55.55 | Fidget | but rather than searching each collection via the normal overlay process, I want them unionfs'ed together so that there's only one search repository |
| 22:57.34 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: I like the unionfs approach, except I'm wondering how difficult it is to keep in sync with oe, (e.g. if a file you 'overrided' is modified in oe) |
| 22:58.16 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: well seperate collections are good so you'd have my-oe/{org.oe,user.collection} |
| 22:58.29 | Fidget | then create a my-oe/union-overlay |
| 22:58.46 | Fidget | and then you can have as many collections as you want, and use unionfs to unite them in union-overlay |
| 22:58.55 | Fidget | then there's only one search path |
| 22:59.19 | Fidget | would have to find rules to specify that user.collection overrides org.oe inside of union-overlay |
| 22:59.57 | Fidget | but I think you get the idea, the org.oe collection is independent branch that users would only keep in sync, they would put modifications inside of user.collection in a parallel structure to org.oe (as normal overlays do) |
| 23:00.20 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: yes. I'm far from being against collection :) I'm just wondering how do you cope with modification of file that you overrides |
| 23:00.21 | Fidget | but there'd be more redundancy elilmination using unionfs in that if you wanted to override a single file, you could achieve that |
| 23:00.56 | Fidget | well if my user.collection/file override org.oe/file |
| 23:01.19 | Fidget | and I sync and org.oe/file has a newer version, I would assume that user.collection/file might still win out |
| 23:01.57 | Fidget | there needs to be a way to prune directory trees and specify logical overlay ordering / timestamp overlay ordering |
| 23:02.08 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: but how can you actually *see* that org.oe/file has a newer version? |
| 23:02.09 | Fidget | that way everything can be super confusing |
| 23:02.19 | Fidget | cd org.oe; svn status ? |
| 23:02.24 | cyrilRomain | when pulling many file has potentially changed |
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| 23:03.36 | cyrilRomain | well, I'm afraid this approach can lead to 'missing fix' in your overlay file (I think you see on what I'm trying to point out) |
| 23:03.44 | Fidget | treat org.oe as some remote tree (what it is) that you do not maintain (unless you do, in which case use your VC tools for updates) |
| 23:04.17 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: That I update org.oe and a security fix or update occurs that should override my user.collection file? |
| 23:04.54 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: for instance, let's say you override libsdl-mixer.bb file |
| 23:04.57 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: Perhaps just use timestamp comparison to choose which file shows up in the overlay-union |
| 23:05.10 | cyrilRomain | and someone fix e.g. the do_package() of libsdl-mixer.bb |
| 23:05.34 | Fidget | When I do an svn status, it should tell me that libsdl-mixer.bb was updated |
| 23:06.16 | Fidget | *or* because when I do an svn update, my local repo gets syncrhonized and the timestamps will update to something newer than my override of libsdl-mixer.bb |
| 23:06.27 | Khem | wohoo gcc 4.3 rfs boots on my osk |
| 23:06.35 | Fidget | osk? |
| 23:06.50 | Khem | omap5912 board |
| 23:07.02 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: well, IHMO it's ok only if you have a few .bb files to manage :-/ |
| 23:07.39 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: with many .bb and/or many changes in those files, I'm afraid it might becomes a nightmare to sync without a proper tool :-/ |
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| 23:09.53 | cyrilRomain | woglinde: libsdl-mixer compiled fine here (from oe repo) |
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| 23:10.05 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: If you have many .bb files, you are probably maintaing your own local copy, might as well just do a recursive touch in your user.collection/packages |
| 23:10.06 | cyrilRomain | diffing with OM repo |
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| 23:10.23 | Fidget | find user.collection/packages -type f -exec touch {} \; |
| 23:11.40 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: but how do you merge or 'cherry-pick' changes from oe files ? |
| 23:12.19 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: diff, patch, and manual inspection? |
| 23:12.27 | CIA-24 | 03khem 07org.oe.dev * r52d1f4c1... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Make inline patch also applicable to gcc 4.3 now that gcc 4.3 implements C99 conformant inline behaviour. |
| 23:13.10 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: well this is rather tedious IHMO, when git can do that for you |
| 23:13.40 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: an overlay is a place for local packages. My suggestion was for increasing the flexibility of overlays so that you can cherry pick from an personal overlay to override a single file in a standard overlay like org.oe |
| 23:13.46 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: not familiar with git |
| 23:13.57 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: a good solution would be to have both the advantages of a unionfs (file in a separate directory), and a SCM tools for diff/merge/patch |
| 23:15.05 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: if you intend to work on the org.oe tree, then yes, but if you have a custom set of packages, or are overlaying a specific file here and there in the org.oe tree, its overkill doing any VC stuff. |
| 23:15.48 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: right. It depends on the number of file you want to 'override' |
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| 23:16.18 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: depends on use case too |
| 23:16.28 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: for one or two files, an VC can be overkill. For more files ... |
| 23:17.49 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: My current case is I need to modify fstab, so I had to copy the entire base-files tree into my local overlay (user.collection). Then modify fstab. Now how do you recommend I keep my local copy of base-files in sync with org.oe when all I want is a personal fstab. |
| 23:18.05 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: I'm really asking |
| 23:20.31 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: well I would keep a personal patch with git, so that I can rebase the patch to keep in sync if the oe dudes change it |
| 23:20.35 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: but you could keep an complete personal fstab, well in a unionfs is a rather sensible solution IMHO |
| 23:21.42 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: in fact one can see an overkill using git/quilt, one can see an overkill to use unionfs ;) |
| 23:21.44 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: we should discuss the whole SCM tools some other time, I'm interested in exploring that idea |
| 23:22.00 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: Isn't using oe overkill compared to ubuntu? |
| 23:22.15 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: ? |
| 23:23.21 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: to build a desktop distro like ubuntu maybe, otherwise I don't understand your question |
| 23:23.36 | Fidget | cyrilRomain: I was making a joke |
| 23:24.00 | cyrilRomain | Fidget: :) |
| 23:25.08 | woglinde | nite |
| 23:26.07 | cyrilRomain | nite all |
| 23:36.51 | Tartarus | Khem, ping |
| 23:37.13 | Khem | Tartarus: pong |
| 23:37.24 | Tartarus | Khem, gcc testsuite question for ya |
| 23:37.36 | Tartarus | finally got things setup so 'make check' will run on a target |
| 23:37.46 | Khem | Tartarus: k |
| 23:37.56 | Tartarus | Now, in the context of make check |
| 23:38.01 | Tartarus | what does unresolved mean? |
| 23:38.11 | Tartarus | for a few days ago armv4t-gnueabi I get: |
| 23:38.20 | Tartarus | pulls up pastebin |
| 23:39.05 | Khem | Tartarus: for cross-testing gcc I usually invoke runtest manually and not do make check |
| 23:39.06 | Tartarus | http://pastebin.com/m4db4cd47 |
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| 23:39.54 | Khem | I see |
| 23:40.21 | Tartarus | So what's unresolved mean in the dejagnu context? :) |
| 23:40.22 | Khem | unresolved means it was not able to run the tests due to some env issue |
| 23:40.40 | Khem | or it could not determine the right way to run it |
| 23:41.00 | Khem | generally this number is not that high |
| 23:41.08 | Khem | so something is surely not alright there |
| 23:41.13 | Tartarus | ok |
| 23:41.31 | Khem | how did u set it up for cross testing |
| 23:41.49 | Khem | env |
| 23:42.05 | Tartarus | sec |
| 23:42.21 | Tartarus | RUNTESTFLAGS="--target_board=myboard" make check |
| 23:42.22 | Tartarus | and... |
| 23:42.26 | Tartarus | load_generic_config "unix"; |
| 23:42.30 | Tartarus | set_board_info gcc,timeout 5400 |
| 23:42.30 | Tartarus | set_board_info g++,timeout 5400 |
| 23:42.30 | Tartarus | set_board_info gfortran,timeout 5400 |
| 23:42.31 | Khem | ok |
| 23:42.37 | Tartarus | and then set_board_info for telnet/ftp |
| 23:44.08 | Khem | ok |
| 23:44.15 | Khem | do u know if it is talking to target |
| 23:44.33 | Khem | I generally use ssh/scp |
| 23:45.03 | Khem | set_board_info rsh_prog /usr/bin/ssh |
| 23:45.03 | Khem | set_board_info rcp_prog /usr/bin/scp |
| 23:45.40 | Khem | and I think you also need to set the compiler which you want to test |
| 23:45.43 | Tartarus | Yes, I had inetd -d going at one point, I know we're ftp'ing in |
| 23:45.53 | Tartarus | and telnet'ing |
| 23:46.05 | Khem | set_board_info compiler <your gcc under test> |
| 23:46.07 | Tartarus | can you pastebin a board config you have that works? |
| 23:46.20 | Khem | ok |
| 23:47.06 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4281 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by trini(AT)embeddedalley.com |
| 23:47.08 | cdbot2 | * * mtd-utils-dev is missing headers |
| 23:47.10 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4281 |
| 23:47.18 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4280 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by trini(AT)embeddedalley.com |
| 23:47.20 | cdbot2 | * * The /usr/include/scsi headers are missing in some cases |
| 23:47.22 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4280 |
| 23:50.10 | Khem | Tartarus: http://pastebin.com/m255da717 |
| 23:51.09 | Tartarus | Khem, OK, thanks |
| 23:51.16 | Tartarus | I'll update my setup and-rerun |
| 23:51.24 | Khem | which arch is it ? |
| 23:51.44 | Tartarus | armv4 |
| 23:51.54 | Tartarus | (ARM920T core) |
| 23:52.02 | Khem | ah ok |
| 23:52.12 | Khem | dont you something fast |
| 23:52.14 | Khem | and nww |
| 23:52.17 | Khem | new |
| 23:52.21 | Khem | this will take ages |
| 23:52.28 | Khem | to run gcc tests on this boarf |
| 23:52.28 | Tartarus | Well, it's actually "new" and somewhat fast |
| 23:52.40 | Tartarus | And it's got 128M ram :) |
| 23:52.48 | Khem | oh thats better |
| 23:52.56 | Khem | Mine is 32M |
| 23:53.03 | Khem | so I am doomed |
| 23:53.25 | Khem | sometimes gcc itself will need that much :) |
| 23:54.05 | Khem | but on cross it wont matter much |
| 23:54.13 | Tartarus | yeah |
| 23:54.19 | Khem | Tartarus: are you using EABI ? |
| 23:54.22 | Tartarus | yeah |
| 23:54.33 | Khem | so its v4t |
| 23:54.39 | Tartarus | yup |
| 23:54.46 | Tartarus | thought i said that sorry :) |
| 23:55.08 | Fidget | I'm having problems with svn using an https server, how can I make it auto accept the cert from within OE? |
| 23:56.50 | Fidget | ERROR: Certificate verification error for svn.int.sigovs.com: unable to get local issuer certificate |
| 23:56.50 | Fidget | To connect to svn.int.sigovs.com insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'. |
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| 23:57.46 | Fidget | thats my internal test server |
| 23:57.56 | Fidget | and it won't use my use environment |
| 23:58.33 | Fidget | anyone? |
| 23:59.32 | Tartarus | Hmm |
| 23:59.35 | Tartarus | In local.conf, try... |