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| 00:37.16 | rwhitby | anyone else getting a bitbake parsing error with .dev head? |
| 00:46.25 | rwhitby | ERROR: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (<string>, line 1) while parsing /home/slug/slugos/openembedded/packages/dsplink/dsplink_1.50.bb |
| 00:51.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3678 has been REOPENED by bluelightning(AT)bluelightning.org |
| 00:51.06 | cdbot2 | * * Opie: cursor key rotation incorrect on some devices |
| 00:51.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3678 |
| 00:51.19 | mwester | Worked fine on SlugOS 24 hours ago :( |
| 00:51.29 | mwester | I'll update and see what happens. |
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| 00:59.55 | rwhitby | mwester: the latest dsplink changes are triggering it, but there's nothing wrong with that recipe. |
| 01:00.11 | mwester | I'm looking at it now, it looks ok. |
| 01:00.51 | rwhitby | MULTIMACH_ARCH is only defined in multimachine.bb and packaged-staging.bb |
| 01:01.42 | rwhitby | aha - inherit packaged-staging, and now the parse is fine. |
| 01:01.44 | mwester | The only things that changed in my env. since last working build are: |
| 01:01.57 | mwester | classes/kernel.bbclass |
| 01:01.57 | rwhitby | So it looks like packaged-staging is a prerequisite for building OE now ... |
| 01:02.05 | mwester | conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc |
| 01:02.32 | mwester | Ok, I'm confoosed -- which file brought in that change, then? |
| 01:02.40 | rwhitby | dunno |
| 01:03.18 | rwhitby | once this build completes (testing the fix to linphone), I'll take out packaged-staging and see if it fails to parse again. |
| 01:03.21 | mwester | wonders if his local.conf still has packaged staging enabled? |
| 01:09.27 | mwester | FWIW, packaged staging seemed to work with SlugOS when I tested it some weeks ago; the build with and without generated the same binaries (by size, at least -- I didn't cmp the binaries!) |
| 01:10.46 | rwhitby | yeah, this will be a good impetus to turn it on for all our stuff. |
| 01:11.32 | khem | mwester: what option to use to enable it in local.conf ? |
| 01:11.46 | khem | I think angstrom enables it by default doesn't it |
| 01:13.16 | rwhitby | yep, remove packaged-staging and dsplink fails to parse. |
| 01:17.02 | mwester | khem: INHERIT += "packaged-staging" |
| 01:18.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4312 has been created by rod(AT)whitby.id.au |
| 01:18.07 | cdbot2 | * * dsplink fails to parse unless packaged-staging is being used |
| 01:18.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4312 |
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| 02:46.26 | Crofton | rwhitby, I'll talk to koen about the dependency tomorrow |
| 02:46.35 | Crofton | we've been working on dsplink today |
| 02:46.47 | Crofton | it is a hairy thing to build |
| 02:47.21 | rwhitby | it looks like some subtle dependency between dsplink, multimachine and packaged staging. I can't work it out. |
| 02:49.09 | Crofton | yeah |
| 02:49.24 | Crofton | I am off to bed now |
| 02:49.29 | Crofton | sorry for the trouble |
| 02:49.52 | Crofton | th edsplink build system is insane |
| 02:50.25 | rwhitby | Crofton: no trouble - I just enabled packaged-staging and continued |
| 02:51.36 | Crofton | gn |
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| 05:44.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4313 has been created by oe-bugzilla(AT)sourcentral.org |
| 05:44.06 | cdbot2 | * * new package: iscsi enterprise target (iscsitarget) |
| 05:44.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4313 |
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| 06:36.55 | cyrilRomain | jaredj: ok, so you need to fix the 'PACKAGES = "${P...' line. More info about that in the user manual: http://oe.linuxtogo.org/user-manual&dpage=recipes_packages |
| 06:37.24 | cyrilRomain | bye |
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| 07:10.41 | methril | morning |
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| 07:50.10 | Genesis | bonjour |
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| 08:07.36 | hrw | morning |
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| 08:13.16 | hrw | sonud mixer in laptops can be overcomplicated |
| 08:13.39 | hrw | I nearly got deaf during playing with alsamixer to get output on headphones |
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| 08:28.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4314 has been created by spam(AT)campana.vi.it |
| 08:28.06 | cdbot2 | * * Adding new board armadillo 500 |
| 08:28.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4314 |
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| 12:07.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3669 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch> |
| 12:07.07 | cdbot2 | * * Opie: time settings cannot find citytime |
| 12:07.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3669 |
| 12:12.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3600 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch> |
| 12:12.07 | cdbot2 | * * Remove opie-dasher 1.2.3+ |
| 12:12.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=3600 |
| 12:13.31 | CIA-22 | 03bluelightning 07org.oe.dev * rd0b5cd0a... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 12:13.31 | CIA-22 | opie: move OPIE_BINDIR out of opie.bbclass into palmtop.bbclass. Closes 3669. |
| 12:13.31 | CIA-22 | * commit by Laibsch |
| 12:13.37 | CIA-22 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r7dac65b6... 10/ (1 packages/opie-dasher packages/nonworking/opie-dasher): opie-dasher: move to nonworking. Closes 3600. |
| 12:14.44 | CIA-22 | 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r9dce9395... 10/ (1 classes/kernel-arch.bbclass): kernel-arch.bbclass: fix map_uboot_arch for x86 |
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| 12:36.55 | keesj | How much KiloWatt does a normal x11-image build cost? |
| 12:37.46 | dl9pf | ?? |
| 12:38.12 | keesj | I house is getting overheated because of the build |
| 12:39.35 | methril | it's not the build is the computer :D |
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| 12:42.26 | hrw | re |
| 12:42.52 | hrw | keesj: interesting question |
| 12:43.06 | hrw | I think that it depends on your build power |
| 12:43.56 | hrw | my home alix.1c with 2.5" hdd takes very small amount of power but builds on it would take a lot of time |
| 12:44.16 | kario | on my laptop minimal-image takes 1,5 days to complete. so it is 100W * 36 |
| 12:44.28 | hrw | my home core2quad machine take much more power but do builds very quickly |
| 12:45.04 | keesj | I guess memory also affects it a lot |
| 12:45.21 | hrw | keesj: cpu+memory+i/o are limiting |
| 12:45.52 | hrw | build on slow cpu with 256M ram + 4200rpm hdd is slow compared to core2quad with 4gb ram and 7200 hdd |
| 12:48.15 | hrw | ~curse Joe |
| 12:48.16 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, Joe ! |
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| 12:56.48 | keesj | I only have a 90W power supply :( |
| 12:57.58 | hrw | and? |
| 12:58.34 | keesj | I also takes at least 1.5 days |
| 13:09.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4315 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder> |
| 13:09.07 | cdbot2 | * * dsplink-1.50+kernel2.6.24-omap1-autobuild |
| 13:09.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4315 |
| 13:10.01 | hrw | arg.... I hate u-boot built with only kermit support... |
| 13:10.24 | hrw | no x-modem nor y-modem nor z-modem... so I have to use ckermit ;(\ |
| 13:19.04 | hrw | -> food |
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| 13:22.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2721 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch> |
| 13:22.07 | cdbot2 | * * opie-taskbar-images update for recent cvs |
| 13:22.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2721 |
| 13:23.49 | Laibsch | would like the core people to make some decisions ("in or out?") about http://bugs.openembedded.net/showdependencytree.cgi?id=2194&hide_resolved=1 |
| 13:27.10 | mickey|slides | when i have some time during LinuxTag this week, I'll process thislist |
| 13:29.20 | keesj | any oe presentations at linuxtag? |
| 13:29.55 | mickey|slides | yep |
| 13:29.57 | Laibsch | mickey|slides: Thanks |
| 13:30.05 | keesj | me is doing a minimal mamona/oe presentation |
| 13:30.07 | mickey|slides | http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/de/conf.html |
| 13:30.21 | mickey|slides | in the mobile embedded track |
| 13:30.25 | mickey|slides | rschuste1 will talk about OE |
| 13:30.46 | mickey|slides | and perhaps stefan_schmidt and me will mention OE in our presentations about Openmoko and OpenEZX |
| 13:30.56 | Laibsch | mickey|slides: These are things where usually just a decision is needed. If there is more work that needs to be done (like reworking or things like that) push the bug back to me |
| 13:31.38 | mickey|slides | will do, thanks |
| 13:31.39 | keesj | I am not there on wensday :( |
| 13:31.52 | mickey|slides | keesj: when's your mamona talk? |
| 13:32.09 | keesj | thrusday |
| 13:32.36 | keesj | 16:00 |
| 13:32.45 | keesj | http://www.linuxtag.org/2008/de/conf/events/vp-donnerstag.html |
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| 13:41.05 | jeremy_laine | looks like something broke on the module-init-tools front |
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| 13:43.15 | Laibsch | jeremy_laine: Could it be that oestats requires cvs bitbake? |
| 13:43.17 | jeremy_laine | I'm not seeing an postinst files, so update-alternatives is not running |
| 13:44.06 | jeremy_laine | Laibsch: if you want to get correct "end of build" reports you do need the SVN version of bitbake |
| 13:44.15 | zecke | oh indt folks come to berlin, cool |
| 13:45.58 | Laibsch | RP, zecke: Are we going to see a new release of bitbake anytime soon? |
| 13:54.01 | CIA-22 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rdb290ddf... 10/ (14 files in 9 dirs): opie: introduce ${OPIE_CVS_PV} for a number of cvs opie bb |
| 13:54.06 | CIA-22 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r0374c8d1... 10/ (1 packages/opie-taskbar/opie-taskbar-images.inc): opie-taskbar-images: add more resolution and other info for palm devices. Closes 2721. |
| 13:55.09 | zecke | Laibsch: hmm |
| 13:55.20 | zecke | Laibsch: I will not do anything useful until after the 5th of next month |
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| 14:01.53 | udovdh | hello |
| 14:02.07 | udovdh | what is the difference between a gpe-iameg for a `generic` distro |
| 14:02.14 | udovdh | and e.g. a familiar image? |
| 14:02.27 | udovdh | s/iameg/image/ |
| 14:05.13 | jeremy_laine | am I the only one ending with a rootfs with a broken "depmod"? |
| 14:06.23 | hrw | ~curse Joe for u-boot with only kermit.. |
| 14:06.24 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, Joe for u-boot with only kermit.. ! |
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| 14:09.29 | hrw | the worst terminal application: C-Kermit |
| 14:10.13 | hrw | why there is no *SANE* terminal under linux.... |
| 14:10.43 | chouimat|work | hrw: picocom? screen? |
| 14:10.51 | hrw | with x/y/z-modem, kermit... proper screen management |
| 14:11.19 | hrw | chouimat|work: I need to send kernel via kermit - only ckermit has it builtin :( |
| 14:13.41 | hrw | and vendor 'forgot' to enable mmc support for pxa27x u-boot |
| 14:14.27 | mwester | PuTTY? |
| 14:15.06 | hrw | chouimat|work: you are 4th which say 'screen' but how to make it connect to serial? |
| 14:15.44 | chouimat|work | hrw: screen -fn /dev/ttyS0 115200,cs8,ixon,-istrip |
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| 14:20.20 | hrw | and sendin files over serial is reliable like atari xl/xe tape... |
| 14:20.34 | hrw | do not touch, do not breath... |
| 14:21.13 | chouimat|work | hrw: the good old "plug and pray" |
| 14:21.49 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.49 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.49 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.52 | hrw | arg |
| 14:22.01 | hrw | ~curse dell and FTDI |
| 14:22.02 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, dell and FTDI ! |
| 14:22.36 | chouimat|work | hrw: let me guess usb serial adapter? |
| 14:22.50 | hrw | chouimat|work: yep - in-laptop serial port died recently |
| 14:23.01 | chouimat|work | hrw: ouch ... |
| 14:23.50 | hrw | it is recognized by kernel (which means nothing as serial ports on x86 never were pnp but guess) but no answer to devices |
| 14:25.48 | hrw | I wonder when 8250/16xx0 ports will be finally replaced by saner ones. in my home desktop with extra serials it just works - all ports are discovered like it should be instead of guessing does mainboard has 1,2,3 or 4 serial ports at 0x2xx-0x3xx locations |
| 14:26.25 | hrw | mickey|slides: can I surprise you? |
| 14:26.49 | hrw | ~hail Sharp |
| 14:26.50 | ibot | ACTION bows down to Sharp and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 14:27.01 | hrw | or rather |
| 14:27.21 | some_vendor | ~hail Sharp |
| 14:27.22 | ibot | ACTION bows down to Sharp and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 14:37.57 | mickey|slides | wtf? :D |
| 14:38.30 | CIA-22 | 03mad_soft 07org.oe.dev * rb116a050... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:38.30 | CIA-22 | fltk-chess: new recipe. Partly closes 429. |
| 14:38.30 | CIA-22 | * commit by Laibsch |
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| 14:38.53 | hrw | mickey|slides: Sharp created GREAT method to upgrade device without external access |
| 14:39.13 | hrw | here I have device where there is one kernel for update and same for normal use |
| 14:39.27 | hrw | mickey|slides: imagine what happens when wrong kernel is flashed... |
| 14:39.35 | mickey|slides | right, they got that right |
| 14:39.39 | mickey|slides | this is where Om will head towards, too |
| 14:40.17 | hrw | Om... please release massmarket ready device first... |
| 14:41.10 | mickey|slides | yeah, somewhere in winter 08 |
| 14:41.16 | mickey|slides | or spring 0 |
| 14:41.17 | mickey|slides | 9 |
| 14:41.38 | hrw | mickey|slides: and it will be gta02? |
| 14:41.41 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|slides: Don't give the year, just stay with month names. ;) |
| 14:41.45 | mickey|slides | no |
| 14:42.07 | hrw | mickey|slides: ah.. gta03 on horizon? |
| 14:42.11 | chouimat|work | gta256? |
| 14:42.48 | mickey|slides | hrw: possible. nothing set in stone (as always, when dealing with Om), but schematics design already started |
| 14:42.54 | mickey|slides | stefan_schmidt: ;) |
| 14:42.56 | hrw | first was gta01 (soon on market they said) which now is s3c2410 based devboard |
| 14:43.34 | hrw | then they said 'forget gta01 - it was for devs, users will get new one - gta02'. this ends life as s3c244x devboard.. |
| 14:44.06 | hrw | then will be gta03 'ubercool stuff for users which never heard about us' - will end as s3c6400 devboard? |
| 14:44.15 | mickey|slides | who knows |
| 14:44.23 | mickey|slides | i for one, like good devboards |
| 14:44.25 | RP | Laibsch: I'd like to see a release of bitbake, yes |
| 14:44.30 | mickey|slides | so i will not complain :) |
| 14:44.35 | chouimat|work | hrw: they are going for marvell feroceon :) |
| 14:44.43 | hrw | mickey|slides: I would prefer phone instead |
| 14:44.47 | hrw | chouimat|work: ;D |
| 14:44.52 | mickey|slides | oh well |
| 14:44.55 | mickey|slides | gta02 is good hardware |
| 14:45.07 | mickey|slides | with the appropriate software later in 08, i will use it as my daily phone |
| 14:45.27 | hrw | mickey|slides: in next few months I renew contract with operator. I want good, usable phone which does not look like brick |
| 14:45.33 | chouimat|work | hrw: I'm dealing with the feroceon at work and they aren't bad ;) just I'm stuck with 2.6.12.6-arm1 :( |
| 14:45.37 | RP | I still don't think I've seen a gta02 in the flesh... |
| 14:45.55 | hrw | RP: OH office has them iirc... |
| 14:46.01 | mickey|slides | hrw: next few months... may be too short for the next Om one. Buy a SE then |
| 14:46.14 | chouimat|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.14 | RP | hrw: Yes, I've just never looked when I've been there |
| 14:46.22 | hrw | mickey|slides: s/SE/HTC you mean? |
| 14:46.26 | hrw | sony ericsson |
| 14:46.46 | mickey|slides | well, that's taste |
| 14:46.52 | mickey|slides | i still prefer my 800 to any other |
| 14:46.54 | mickey|slides | it just works |
| 14:46.55 | mickey|slides | *shrug* |
| 14:46.56 | hrw | RP: look at gta01 and you see gta02. same brickfactor |
| 14:47.24 | hrw | -> reboot |
| 14:47.35 | chouimat|work | need to repace his gp by something but not yet |
| 14:47.38 | hrw | maybe after reboot this laptop will run at 1.6GHz instead of 0.6GHz |
| 14:47.43 | hrw | brb |
| 14:47.58 | jeremy_laine | ~curse module-init-tools |
| 14:47.58 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, module-init-tools ! |
| 14:48.02 | RP | hrw: Remember what my current mobile phone looks like ;-) |
| 14:48.17 | jeremy_laine | OK, I'm starting to pull my hair out here.. |
| 14:48.29 | RP | should try the gta01 again |
| 14:48.57 | jeremy_laine | problem: neither module-init-tools nor module-init-tools-depmod have postinst scripts, as a result of which my rootfs sucks balls |
| 14:48.58 | udovdh | what is the difference between a gpe-image for a `generic` distro |
| 14:49.00 | udovdh | and e.g. a familiar image? |
| 14:49.28 | udovdh | packages? |
| 14:49.33 | udovdh | binary compatibility? |
| 14:49.38 | udovdh | more? |
| 14:49.41 | jeremy_laine | noticed: if I replace "pkg_postinst_module-init-tools" by "pkg_postinst_${PN}" I get an init script for module-init-tools => why? |
| 14:51.45 | RP | jeremy_laine: Try the latest bitbake |
| 14:51.54 | RP | jeremy_laine: There was a bug in key expansion which was fixed in the latest 1.8 branch |
| 14:52.45 | jeremy_laine | RP : I am running svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.8, revision 1074 |
| 14:53.48 | RP | jeremy_laine: Hmm, 1074 should have fixed it :/ |
| 14:54.00 | RP | wonders if its broken some other corner case :/ |
| 14:54.28 | jeremy_laine | RP: can you try building module-init-tools please? |
| 14:57.55 | RP | jeremy_laine: Not now, maybe later |
| 14:58.00 | RP | -> afk |
| 15:06.31 | hrw | RP: you use somekind of nokia 5110 or other eons old phone? |
| 15:06.42 | hrw | fscking laptop |
| 15:06.50 | hrw | 597MHz cpu detected again |
| 15:07.03 | hrw | -> hack hack again |
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| 15:14.05 | hrw | argh |
| 15:18.04 | hrw | again 600MHz speed for 1.6GHz cpu |
| 15:18.22 | hrw | 600MHz max |
| 15:24.54 | dl9pf | hi ! ... need some assistance: http://rafb.net/p/WMB4dX98.html |
| 15:25.27 | dl9pf | how can i exchange a kernel without this error ? |
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| 15:26.09 | dl9pf | local.conf: http://rafb.net/p/qDaW6I34.html |
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| 15:30.18 | dl9pf | anyone there ? |
| 15:30.29 | chouimat|work | no |
| 15:30.34 | dl9pf | lol |
| 15:30.48 | timtimred | im just a script. |
| 15:32.37 | dl9pf | what leads to "ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide linux" ? ... where do I need to make a change ? |
| 15:32.42 | likewise | Laibsch: you changed to page on Ubuntu installation, removing the part about "sudo apt-get install monotone python-dev ccache m4 sed bison make cvs gawk libc6-dev g++ \ |
| 15:32.44 | likewise | subversion sharutils docbook openjade quilt libmpfr-dev libpcre3-dev texinfo help2man" |
| 15:33.52 | udovdh | dl9pf, no target os? |
| 15:33.56 | Laibsch | likewise: wiki? |
| 15:34.09 | likewise | Laibsch: yes |
| 15:34.27 | likewise | Laibsch: diff here: http://oe.linuxtogo.org/node/23/diff/2556 |
| 15:34.44 | dl9pf | udovdh: ?? oh ... hmmm ... |
| 15:34.47 | Laibsch | likewise: hehe |
| 15:34.53 | Laibsch | that wiki is utterly broken |
| 15:35.00 | Laibsch | both content-wise and technically |
| 15:35.09 | likewise | Laibsch: sorry, not sure if it was you, btw, but as you added your apt-gettable stuff. (yes top of diff is broken, can you see the rest?) |
| 15:35.24 | Laibsch | let me scroll, then |
| 15:35.26 | likewise | Laibsch: web site is broken, IMHO, in most respects |
| 15:35.39 | udovdh | dunno dl9pf, am not a developer but looks odd to me |
| 15:36.14 | dl9pf | udovdh: will try |
| 15:36.48 | dl9pf | udovdh: nop ... same |
| 15:36.57 | udovdh | hmmm |
| 15:36.58 | Laibsch | likewise: yes, very broken. and *very* unfortunate. I'd look after it more if it was not this drupal stuff that I don't come across anywhere else. |
| 15:37.13 | Laibsch | likewise: So, let's go without that diff |
| 15:37.26 | hrw | yay! file is uploading |
| 15:37.29 | Laibsch | you are saying that I removed something which should have stayed, is that it? |
| 15:37.31 | hrw | finally |
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| 15:37.44 | likewise | Laibsch: yes, the part I copied verbatim above (sudo apt-get install ...) |
| 15:38.06 | jeremy_laine | RP: the problem I'm running into is not specific to module-init-tools, e2fsprogs doesn't generate postinst / prerm scripts either |
| 15:38.06 | Laibsch | likewise: isn't that in the DEPENDS? |
| 15:38.20 | Laibsch | likewise: monotone is, for example |
| 15:38.25 | Laibsch | no need to install it manually |
| 15:38.57 | likewise | Laibsch: the instructions are meant for those NOT using the debian package. |
| 15:39.14 | Laibsch | well, it was becoming quite an ugly mess |
| 15:39.21 | likewise | Laibsch: i.e. those not using openembedded-essential (which btw, is also gone??) |
| 15:39.36 | Laibsch | Just take for example that I did not understand it anymore |
| 15:39.43 | Laibsch | what applied to me and what not |
| 15:39.43 | likewise | Laibsch: :-) |
| 15:40.11 | Laibsch | I think, we should provide those packages and be done with for the wiki for people who have deb-based systems |
| 15:40.19 | dl9pf | ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide linux (/stuff/org.openembedded.stable/packages/linux/linux_2.6.20.15-xenomai.bb /stuff/org.openembedded.stable/packages/linux/linux_2.6.21.bb). |
| 15:40.24 | dl9pf | still ^^^ |
| 15:40.30 | Laibsch | likewise: anything else is basically unmaintained, nobody looks after it |
| 15:40.50 | Crofton|work | dl9pf, what MACHINE and DISTRO are you using |
| 15:41.22 | likewise | Laibsch: ok, let it be. we need a better site anyway. |
| 15:41.36 | hrw | grrrh! |
| 15:41.40 | dl9pf | Crofton|work: MACHINE = "i586-generic" DISTRO = "generic" |
| 15:42.12 | Crofton|work | try DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" |
| 15:42.18 | Crofton|work | that has the best support here |
| 15:42.42 | Crofton|work | I am not familiar with the x86 stuff though |
| 15:42.52 | dl9pf | Crofton|work: isn't that for arm ?? |
| 15:43.03 | Crofton|work | no |
| 15:43.10 | Crofton|work | it should work for any machine |
| 15:43.24 | Crofton|work | generic distro needs some work |
| 15:44.24 | dl9pf | will try now |
| 15:48.04 | jeremy_laine | RP: er.. I may have found something |
| 15:48.18 | dl9pf | Crofton|work: nop still same error |
| 15:48.46 | dl9pf | 2.6.21 might get pulled by some other pkg, but dunnow where ... |
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| 15:56.17 | hrw | nice thing I found on my pendrive... |
| 15:56.26 | hrw | ms32dll.dll.vbs |
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| 15:57.20 | mwester | hrw: Ouch, that's nasty. |
| 15:57.52 | mwester | I hope that's from the previous owner of the pendrive, and not from one of your systems. |
| 15:57.52 | hrw | with proper autorun.inf of course |
| 15:58.04 | hrw | mwester: I suspect fotolab |
| 15:58.26 | hrw | mwester: as this pen was formatted before fotolab and then used only in linux devices |
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| 16:03.46 | jeremy_laine | RP: ping? |
| 16:04.19 | jeremy_laine | is anyone using a pkg_postrm_some-package definition with "some-package" containing a dash? |
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| 16:09.51 | hrw | http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/05/26/i-found-nice-thing/ |
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| 16:10.48 | Laibsch | where is the information for new devs on what keys to create, etc., for rw access? |
| 16:11.06 | Laibsch | the wiki is becoming almost useless |
| 16:11.20 | hrw | Laibsch: it is useless |
| 16:11.41 | hrw | Laibsch: we probably need to create wiki.openembedded.net and start from scratch |
| 16:11.49 | Laibsch | Can we start with a new page, then? |
| 16:12.07 | Laibsch | hrw: should we discuss that on the ml? |
| 16:12.15 | hrw | yes |
| 16:12.15 | bluelightning | Laibsch: FYI it's http://oe.linuxtogo.org/wiki/MonotonePhraseBook |
| 16:12.17 | Laibsch | I was always wondering if the time was right, yet |
| 16:12.22 | Laibsch | bluelightning: thanks |
| 16:12.28 | Laibsch | I guess you already found it |
| 16:12.35 | bluelightning | Laibsch: I have already found & followed it :) |
| 16:12.57 | Laibsch | bluelightning: I don't think that is the page I was looking for |
| 16:13.12 | Laibsch | yes, it is |
| 16:14.34 | Laibsch | hrw: I'd be proposing a mediawiki installation |
| 16:14.43 | Laibsch | That might of course cause a stir |
| 16:15.07 | hrw | Laibsch: I vote for mediawiki |
| 16:15.10 | Laibsch | I've gotten my bruises lately |
| 16:15.18 | Laibsch | OK, I'll propose it |
| 16:15.25 | Laibsch | unless you prefer to do it |
| 16:15.40 | Laibsch | which would make sense, but is not absolutely necessary |
| 16:15.45 | hrw | do it - I have device to handle now |
| 16:15.53 | Laibsch | OK |
| 16:15.55 | hrw | finally flashed it |
| 16:16.01 | hrw | took ~5h |
| 16:16.24 | hrw | ~hail linux-rp for EABI/OABI switching in do_configure |
| 16:16.25 | ibot | ACTION bows down to linux-rp for EABI/OABI switching in do_configure and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 16:28.24 | Laibsch | mickey, Crofton, XorA: What is your position on a possible restart of the OE wiki with mediawiki as the engine? |
| 16:28.49 | Laibsch | remembers quite well there was some opposition about a year ago |
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| 16:31.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4316 has been created by jeremy.laine(AT)bolloretelecom.eu |
| 16:31.06 | cdbot2 | * * postinst / postrm / preinst / prerm are ignored for packages with a dash |
| 16:31.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4316 |
| 16:32.18 | jeremy_laine | RP: I have filed a bug for the problem I was describing, it has some pretty far reaching effects |
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| 16:38.18 | hrw | ave a nice evening |
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| 16:43.50 | khem | RP: Did you see my glibc related post on ml |
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| 16:49.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4259 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch> |
| 16:49.06 | cdbot2 | * * pxa2xx_udc: fix clock setup |
| 16:49.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4259 |
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| 16:51.51 | Laibsch | RP: glibc-intermediate? |
| 16:51.59 | Laibsch | sorry, wrong nick |
| 16:52.03 | Laibsch | khem: : glibc-intermediate? |
| 16:52.10 | khem | yeah Laibsch |
| 16:52.20 | Laibsch | bug koen to fix his mess |
| 16:52.39 | Laibsch | I did so in bug 4288 and was just about to write a mail to the list |
| 16:52.40 | khem | actually I think it affects both glibc as well as glibc-intermediate |
| 16:53.29 | Laibsch | whatever it is, 860bccc90a045f54a0fd143d4759959d43643350 seems to be what broke |
| 16:53.33 | Laibsch | it |
| 16:53.41 | khem | Laibsch: The problem I am seeing is long standing its just that so far it did not surface |
| 16:53.46 | Laibsch | I have done extensive tests to single thisone out |
| 16:54.12 | khem | Laibsch: its strange that commit only affects csl gcc recipes |
| 16:54.25 | khem | Laibsch: what is your distro and gcc ver |
| 16:54.31 | khem | you are using |
| 16:54.44 | Laibsch | I am using various things |
| 16:54.56 | XorA|gone | morning |
| 16:55.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4317 has been created by bluelightning(AT)bluelightning.org |
| 16:55.07 | cdbot2 | * * Fix Opie SD card path for 2.6 kernel devices |
| 16:55.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4317 |
| 16:55.23 | Laibsch | But the predecessor of 860bccc90a045f54a0fd143d4759959d43643350 still built fine for Angstrom |
| 16:55.31 | khem | Laibsch: ok |
| 16:55.34 | Laibsch | 860bccc90a045f54a0fd143d4759959d43643350 did break in glibc-intermediate |
| 16:55.41 | Laibsch | so, my conclusion is clear |
| 16:55.45 | khem | Laibsch: what gcc version are you using |
| 16:55.49 | Laibsch | I often build for qemu and spitz |
| 16:56.04 | Laibsch | I will do verification testing in Angstrom-2008.1 most of the time |
| 16:56.15 | Laibsch | khem: You mean on the compile host? |
| 16:56.24 | khem | no the cross compiler |
| 16:56.26 | XorA|gone | wishes he knew what 860.... was |
| 16:56.30 | khem | which recipe |
| 16:56.57 | khem | XorA|gone: 860 seems to be some intel graphics chipset :) |
| 16:57.11 | XorA|gone | khem: cool, 3d in OE :-) |
| 16:57.16 | Laibsch | XorA|gone: I'll get you a git URL in a minute |
| 16:57.41 | Laibsch | khem: http://rafb.net/p/t72WFn10.html |
| 16:57.43 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: cheers, I dont have a mtn db handy to figure it out |
| 16:59.01 | khem | Laibsch: hmmm strange that its pulling all sort of gcc |
| 16:59.07 | khem | recipes |
| 16:59.57 | Laibsch | XorA|gone: http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=commit;f=packages/gcc;hb=cb961292ea5c955631addaf40cece1adfaabeab2 |
| 17:00.07 | Laibsch | last commit to packages/gcc/ |
| 17:00.11 | khem | Laibsch: are you building from scratch ? |
| 17:00.47 | Laibsch | I can test again, but I cleaned out tmp previously, but the direct predecessor of that commit successfully, did "mtn up -r 860$blah" and boom glibc-intermediate bombs out |
| 17:01.08 | Laibsch | numerous people have said that commit to be unlikely to have caused the breakage |
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| 17:01.28 | XorA|gone | hmmm, doesnt look too detrimental |
| 17:01.32 | khem | Laibsch: what is the error message do you have it somewhere |
| 17:01.33 | Laibsch | But those are the facts I experienced |
| 17:01.50 | Laibsch | khem: bug 4288 |
| 17:01.58 | khem | yeah looking at it now |
| 17:01.59 | Laibsch | the error seems to be different at times |
| 17:02.15 | Laibsch | I don't understand it enough to say exactly what is going on |
| 17:02.32 | Laibsch | the common factor for me is "glibc-intermediate breaking" at this point |
| 17:02.45 | Laibsch | so, anything with that feature gets lumped together ;-) |
| 17:03.11 | Laibsch | khem: I was building from scratch multiple times, yes |
| 17:03.21 | Laibsch | of course, I don't always build from scratch |
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| 17:04.31 | XorA|gone | wierdness |
| 17:04.45 | khem | Laibsch: hmmm the error log in bug seems to indicate wrong binutils |
| 17:05.00 | Laibsch | mine, too? |
| 17:05.03 | khem | Laibsch: there was some problem with parallel jobs in bitbake too |
| 17:05.16 | Laibsch | I can provide a fresh build log in a little while |
| 17:05.22 | Laibsch | khem: I know |
| 17:05.23 | Tartarus | parallel bitbake or make -j ? |
| 17:05.35 | Laibsch | Those go away when rebuilding the package in question, though |
| 17:05.38 | khem | Laibsch: make -jX should be ok |
| 17:05.40 | Laibsch | Tartarus: both |
| 17:05.41 | Tartarus | make -j has been broken for me by the commit Laibsch first said broke it :) |
| 17:06.03 | Laibsch | Tartarus: 860$blah? |
| 17:06.11 | Tartarus | sounds right |
| 17:06.33 | Laibsch | OK, maybe we should add PARALLEL_MAKE="" |
| 17:06.46 | Tartarus | has a kludge? |
| 17:06.50 | Tartarus | *as |
| 17:07.05 | khem | Laibsch: do you have BB_NUMBER_THREADS >1? |
| 17:07.20 | khem | in local.conf |
| 17:08.07 | Laibsch | khem: I have both make -j and BB_NUMBER_THREADS |
| 17:08.34 | Laibsch | Tartarus: at least a rebuild breaks even with PARALLEL_MAKE="" |
| 17:09.05 | Tartarus | I have just PARALLEL_MAKE="-j 8" and BB_NUMBER_THREADS=1 and see the same breakage (log looks the same) |
| 17:09.08 | khem | hmmm likewise and I saw problems with BB_NUMBER_THREADS > 1 RP suspected packaged-staging for the problem |
| 17:09.45 | khem | Tartarus: same error message as bug 4288 |
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| 17:10.08 | cyrilRomain | morning |
| 17:10.10 | Laibsch | I have disabled both, cleaned out tmp and will redo a build now |
| 17:10.21 | Laibsch | at least until glibc-intermediate |
| 17:10.39 | khem | Laibsch: yeah doing a helloworld-image should reproduce your problem |
| 17:11.03 | Laibsch | rm -Rf /home/laibsch/oe/tmp/angstrom/dev/ && MACHINE=spitz bitbake glibc-intermediate |
| 17:11.07 | Laibsch | should be sufficient |
| 17:11.22 | Laibsch | it was previously |
| 17:11.24 | khem | yeah even that one |
| 17:11.52 | Laibsch | wonderst why pre-860$blah builds were doing fine |
| 17:12.04 | khem | fails to find a reasoning |
| 17:12.05 | Tartarus | khem, nope, this was the cpp -E error, last I tried |
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| 17:12.19 | khem | Tartarus: ok |
| 17:12.45 | khem | Tartarus: that seems to be parallel build probably |
| 17:12.58 | Tartarus | khem, right, is that fixed yet? :) |
| 17:13.25 | khem | Tartarus: no I think not RP was testing some fixes |
| 17:13.33 | khem | I don't know if he committed those yet |
| 17:13.39 | Tartarus | k |
| 17:14.37 | Laibsch | Which recipes need to be set to single-compilation to at least have something working? |
| 17:16.36 | khem | Laibsch: I don't know for me PARALLEL_MAKE = "-j4" has been working |
| 17:17.17 | Laibsch | Then that can't be it |
| 17:17.45 | Laibsch | Because I would not see breakage building only glibc-intermediate |
| 17:18.21 | khem | yeah but you can try one clean build without and see if that helps |
| 17:18.31 | Laibsch | done |
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| 17:18.34 | Laibsch | let's see |
| 17:20.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4317 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Laibsch> |
| 17:20.07 | cdbot2 | * * Fix Opie SD card path for 2.6 kernel devices |
| 17:20.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4317 |
| 17:20.51 | khem | Laibsch: What cross-binutils does it pick for you |
| 17:21.21 | khem | I do not set MACHINE on my ENV vars on cmdline instead I have it in my local.conf |
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| 17:21.55 | CIA-22 | 03bluelightning 07org.oe.dev * rc35bb425... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:21.55 | CIA-22 | libqpe: recognize SD cards under 2.6 kernels. Fixes 4317. |
| 17:21.55 | CIA-22 | * commit by Laibsch |
| 17:22.08 | Laibsch | a warm welcome to bluelightning! |
| 17:22.31 | Laibsch | khem: the MACHINE thing is another bug, I think |
| 17:22.50 | Laibsch | that is how I understood koen's crypted non-information |
| 17:23.16 | khem | yeah it is |
| 17:23.41 | Laibsch | he claims that one is fixed so let's not worry too much about that now |
| 17:28.52 | CIA-22 | 03khem 07org.oe.dev * r73e0f6af... 10/ (1 packages/eglibc/eglibc-stage.inc): |
| 17:28.52 | CIA-22 | Do not copy .a files into $sysroot/lib instead let make install do it for us. |
| 17:28.52 | CIA-22 | Remove install-lib and install-headers. |
| 17:29.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4274 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com |
| 17:29.07 | cdbot2 | * * Move eglibc into a separate package |
| 17:29.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4274 |
| 17:31.26 | mickey|slides | Laibsch: sounds pretty good and necessary to me |
| 17:32.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4273 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com |
| 17:32.07 | cdbot2 | * * util-linux does not compile with 2.6.25 linux-libc-headers |
| 17:32.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4273 |
| 17:34.51 | khem | Laibsch: Are you using oestats ? |
| 17:35.34 | jeremy_laine | other than RP, is anyone familiar with bitbake's internals? |
| 17:36.34 | khem | is still trying to clean up the toolchain mess |
| 17:37.12 | khem | Do we prefer to keep old old compiler still working on latest .dev ? |
| 17:37.50 | XorA|gone | rm -rf packages/gcc |
| 17:37.58 | khem | lol |
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| 17:50.40 | jeremy_laine | RP: have filed bug 4316 describing the problem and suggesting a possible patch |
| 17:50.51 | jeremy_laine | RP: I'm not sure the patch is correct, but it pinpoints thee problem |
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| 18:10.46 | Laibsch | khem: I'd like to use oestats |
| 18:11.15 | Laibsch | but that requires svn bitbake. I use my apt-get'able OE and that takes the distro bitbake |
| 18:12.02 | Crofton | khem, define old compiler? |
| 18:12.16 | Laibsch | mickey|slides: What exactly is necessary and pretty good? |
| 18:12.32 | mickey|slides | your proposal about a wiki new start |
| 18:12.47 | Laibsch | Ah, OK |
| 18:12.57 | Laibsch | I'll send out the mail, then |
| 18:13.48 | Crofton | mickey|slides, when does the ev happen? |
| 18:15.37 | Laibsch | khem, Tartarus: disabling all parallel building results in a successful compile for glibc-intermediate |
| 18:17.00 | Crofton | supposes he should run parrallel make occasinoally |
| 18:17.14 | mickey|slides | Crofton: tomorrow meeting at the lawyer to sign documents |
| 18:17.22 | Crofton | great |
| 18:17.26 | mickey|slides | afterwards, submitting docs to the authorities |
| 18:17.29 | Crofton | congrats btw |
| 18:17.39 | Crofton | for getting things this far |
| 18:17.43 | mickey|slides | :) thanks |
| 18:17.56 | mickey|slides | should have been much faster, but ... you know |
| 18:18.02 | Crofton | so as part of the wiki clean up, we can start getting the infratructure sorted out |
| 18:18.04 | Crofton | I understand |
| 18:18.09 | Crofton | we are all volunteers |
| 18:18.10 | Crofton | mostly |
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| 18:22.17 | Laibsch | Crofton: that would be nice |
| 18:22.32 | HopsNBarley | khem??? |
| 18:22.44 | jeremy_laine | RP: ping? |
| 18:22.51 | Laibsch | Crofton:What is it that IYO needs sorting out, as far as infrastructure is concerened? |
| 18:24.39 | Crofton | dns |
| 18:24.43 | Crofton | #1 |
| 18:24.57 | Crofton | the .org/.net stuff |
| 18:25.08 | Crofton | making sure we do not swamp servers |
| 18:26.50 | Laibsch | good points |
| 18:27.00 | Laibsch | I'll add tasks for that to our bug tracker |
| 18:28.25 | Crofton | Don't go over board, I think we know about these issues :) |
| 18:31.16 | Laibsch | hehe |
| 18:34.27 | jeremy_laine | Laibsch: remember bitbake bug #2958? the fix for that bug broke things pretty badly for postinst scripts |
| 18:34.48 | Laibsch | I just saw that |
| 18:34.51 | Laibsch | :-( |
| 18:35.18 | jeremy_laine | I will have to do a full rebuild now to get things working again |
| 18:35.33 | Laibsch | Sorry to hear |
| 18:35.42 | Laibsch | But there is also nothing that I can do |
| 18:35.53 | Laibsch | You should talk to RP on how to proceed |
| 18:36.12 | jeremy_laine | nope, it's just I'm amazed no-one has run into a problem so far, the patch went in a week ago :) |
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| 20:48.34 | khem | HopsNBarley: hey |
| 20:49.12 | khem | Laibsch: RP committed fix which should help parallel build |
| 20:49.32 | khem | Laibsch: you might want to try with latest .dev |
| 21:00.09 | like2wise | hi khem, HopsNBarley, Laibsch |
| 21:00.28 | khem | like2wise: hey |
| 21:00.36 | like2wise | khem: thanks for investigating the (e)glibc issue (symbol not found). |
| 21:01.01 | khem | like2wise: Yeah I fixed it for eglibc already did you try rebuilding |
| 21:01.10 | khem | I think it should work now |
| 21:01.29 | khem | I have not committed the glibc one yet |
| 21:01.37 | like2wise | khem: no did not yet, I will move to the new tinderbox oestats, and move to eglibc, and make a eglibc build run |
| 21:01.40 | khem | want to give more time if someone has issues |
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| 21:02.03 | khem | like2wise: yeah I am using tinderbox |
| 21:02.20 | woglinde | hi |
| 21:02.30 | khem | woglinde: hello |
| 21:02.31 | woglinde | khem you broke uclibc a little bit |
| 21:02.43 | khem | woglinde: hmm how come |
| 21:02.57 | woglinde | DEFAULT_PREFERENCES |
| 21:03.13 | khem | woglinde: I thought I reverted that didn't I |
| 21:03.15 | woglinde | after some of your changes 0.9.28 was the default provider |
| 21:03.24 | woglinde | *g* |
| 21:03.50 | khem | woglinde: is it still so ? |
| 21:03.53 | woglinde | nope |
| 21:04.01 | woglinde | I "fixed" it |
| 21:04.12 | khem | woglinde: hmmm thanks |
| 21:04.25 | khem | somehow my local not to be committed changes creep in |
| 21:04.27 | khem | sometimes |
| 21:04.31 | woglinde | but I am unsure if uclibc_cvs should be default provider |
| 21:04.42 | woglinde | for now it is 0.9.29 again |
| 21:05.12 | khem | ok I use svn generally locally |
| 21:05.28 | like2wise | do we have a reasonably known good svn? It should go in sanerevs for those who want svn |
| 21:05.56 | woglinde | like2wise *g* still the latest |
| 21:06.29 | woglinde | hm by the time we should rename _cvs recipe |
| 21:06.41 | woglinde | and delete the really old 0.9.26-27 recipes |
| 21:07.06 | like2wise | yup, plan them for removal I would say. |
| 21:07.22 | like2wise | (be social for the old distro's :-) |
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| 21:07.53 | khem | like2wise: for uclibc and eglibc I santize revs |
| 21:07.58 | khem | from svn time to time |
| 21:08.06 | khem | I want to do that for binutils too |
| 21:08.35 | khem | as there are less releases for binutils its more relevant to use a cvs snapshot |
| 21:08.53 | like2wise | khem: are you generally following toolchain developments? |
| 21:09.11 | khem | like2wise: yeah |
| 21:09.29 | like2wise | khem: must be a time consuming task :-) |
| 21:09.33 | khem | till glibc on software stack :) |
| 21:09.53 | khem | like2wise: yes its most unrewarded work in industry |
| 21:10.17 | khem | I have been working on toolchains since are graduated |
| 21:12.01 | like2wise | khem: I think you are right with that statement. nevertheless, if there was no freely available open-source toolchain the amount of open-source would be order of magnitudes smaller IMHO. |
| 21:12.44 | khem | agreed |
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| 21:13.19 | khem | I live in bay area in CA and there are fewer jobs for compilers than for light rail drivers |
| 21:13.36 | like2wise | khem: are you attending some of the Linux conferences at times? (I do not often get the chance myself). Would be nice to meet up with some of the OE guys (although I don't know many in the US) |
| 21:13.40 | khem | you say linux and they are all over you :) |
| 21:13.45 | like2wise | :-) |
| 21:13.51 | like2wise | hi florian |
| 21:14.02 | khem | like2wise: I have been to OLS once |
| 21:14.03 | like2wise | flo_lap: good to see you're still alive |
| 21:14.07 | khem | and to GCC summit in 2006 |
| 21:14.19 | khem | I do not prefer to fly a lot |
| 21:14.20 | like2wise | that's both .ca? |
| 21:14.26 | khem | yeah |
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| 21:15.29 | khem | oh yeah and to CELF which was nearby |
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| 21:15.48 | like2wise | khem: btw, I built with -gnuspe, not that it mattered so far. But how would I check if that toolchain gives me a different gcc/binutils in terms of the support assembly? |
| 21:15.50 | ant_ | gm |
| 21:16.22 | flo_lap | re |
| 21:16.24 | woglinde | hi florian |
| 21:16.32 | like2wise | khem: I went to ELCE (CELF Europe + Real-time LInux Workshop) last year because it was "nearby". |
| 21:16.52 | khem | yeah cool was it in Amsterdam |
| 21:17.13 | like2wise | khem: nope, Austria (.at) |
| 21:17.24 | khem | hmmm ok |
| 21:17.37 | like2wise | khem: yet another European country :-) |
| 21:17.48 | ant_ | khem: wasn't you having found /etc/profile was not sourced ? I have non-working ts on c7x0 ... |
| 21:18.07 | khem | I liked austria for its scenic beauty |
| 21:18.24 | khem | ant_: yes I have fixed it too |
| 21:18.28 | ant_ | echo $TSLIB_TSDEVICE -> /dev/input/touchscreen0 |
| 21:18.41 | ant_ | but I have not this device... |
| 21:18.55 | like2wise | khem: well, the valley wasn't that bad for me either. I am used to flat land all around me. |
| 21:19.14 | khem | ant_: if you don't have this device than it's a problem in your udev may be |
| 21:19.38 | ant_ | and the xkeyboard seems broken too... |
| 21:19.55 | khem | like2wise: yeah I use to drive a lot into austria it was few hours from Munich everywhere |
| 21:20.18 | like2wise | khem: you been stationed in Munich? |
| 21:20.23 | ant_ | at login prompt I skip and log on terminal: here I have proper keyboard...but not in X |
| 21:20.38 | khem | like2wise: in Ulm to be exact for 5 yrs |
| 21:21.08 | ant_ | was living in Muenchen 15 years ago... |
| 21:21.25 | khem | ant_: gruss gott :) |
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| 21:21.32 | like2wise | khem: so your german must be pretty good :-) |
| 21:21.32 | ant_ | pfua dich! |
| 21:22.03 | khem | like2wise: I speak bayerisch :) |
| 21:22.48 | ant_ | I learned my Deutsch in Bayern too! (Im Gefaengnis im Goethe Institut) |
| 21:23.37 | khem | ant_: hmm cool |
| 21:23.43 | like2wise | khem: Khem is den Werkzeugekette Experte |
| 21:23.56 | khem | I learnt my german in beer gartens |
| 21:24.01 | ant_ | A lot of American and Canadian students in summer...I improved my english a little bit too... |
| 21:24.16 | ant_ | *Stundentinnen |
| 21:24.27 | khem | heh :) |
| 21:24.43 | woglinde | lol |
| 21:24.55 | ant_ | woglinde: servus ! |
| 21:25.40 | flo_lap | brb# |
| 21:26.18 | ant_ | khem: we'll got beaten by the REAL germans...stop here *g* |
| 21:33.06 | khem | like2wise: yeah I like this inheritance feature of german language where by combining words you can form new words |
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| 21:34.50 | khem | lunch time |
| 21:36.25 | like2wise | khem: non appetit |
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| 21:37.47 | like2wise | khem: but I really meant to type bon appetit |
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| 21:43.17 | woglinde | hm which package provides init |
| 21:44.07 | woglinde | ah okay sysvinit |
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| 21:48.42 | cyrilRomain | ant_: about http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3378 did you have the error with gmp-native-4.2.2 ? |
| 21:49.27 | cyrilRomain | ant_: I got the error with gmp-native-4.2.1 but not with gmp-native-4.2.2 |
| 21:50.29 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: I tried Arklinux in december last time... |
| 21:50.43 | cyrilRomain | ant_: ah ok |
| 21:50.48 | woglinde | hehe |
| 21:51.00 | woglinde | then stay with gmp-native-4.2.2 |
| 21:51.03 | cyrilRomain | ant_: back to gcc 4.x | x < 3 ? ;) |
| 21:51.27 | cyrilRomain | woglinde: yes. Maybe should the stable branch switch to gmp-native-4.2.2 ? |
| 21:51.45 | ant_ | now gcc version 4.1.2 (Gentoo 4.1.2 p1.1) |
| 21:52.28 | woglinde | cyril hm dont know |
| 21:52.33 | ant_ | gcc-native solves the qemu/glibc locale issue, it really doesn?t matter whath you have on host |
| 21:54.18 | woglinde | cyril I think it should than, but better ask koen |
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| 21:54.55 | cyrilRomain | woglinde: ok |
| 22:12.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4318 has been created by purdyd_at_wisheights(AT)yahoo.com |
| 22:12.07 | cdbot2 | * * parted 1.8.7 does not build on ppc - and needs update to 1.8.8 - which doesn't build either... |
| 22:12.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4318 |
| 22:12.22 | HopsNBarley | hey gang - which BB do i need to build the current head? i've got 1.8.11 |
| 22:13.04 | woglinde | hopsnbarley thtas fine |
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| 22:13.33 | HopsNBarley | hi like2wise |
| 22:13.36 | HopsNBarley | new nick? |
| 22:14.00 | like2wise | HopsNBarley: 1.8.10 or .11 should be fine I suppose. I use 1.8.10 here without good reason. |
| 22:14.14 | like2wise | HopsNBarley: likewise runs on a Apple MacBook Pro now :-) |
| 22:14.22 | HopsNBarley | woglinde, thanks - something then seems amiss with gcc 4.3. (i know, it's not 'ready' yet, but i'm hoping to get it for advanced mips features) |
| 22:14.48 | likewise | HopsNBarley: a present from the visit the Vegas. |
| 22:15.05 | HopsNBarley | i had to bitbake mpfr-native "by hand" before gcc would even configure. |
| 22:15.12 | HopsNBarley | like2wise, oh yeah? nice! |
| 22:15.43 | HopsNBarley | darn, company just arrived for a little afternoon bbq (including homemade beer :-) |
| 22:20.20 | woglinde | ah nice opie works on my simpad again |
| 22:20.21 | like2wise | HopsNBarley: have fun! |
| 22:21.25 | khem | mpfr-native should be in DEPENDS for gcc-4.3 |
| 22:23.58 | woglinde | hopes that the uclibc nptl for arm go in fas in svn |
| 22:24.14 | khem | woglinde: :) |
| 22:24.21 | woglinde | thanthe simpad would be a little bit faster than now |
| 22:24.33 | woglinde | but opie feels the fastet since ever now |
| 22:25.13 | woglinde | jesus is this fast |
| 22:25.17 | woglinde | for the 200 mhz |
| 22:27.06 | woglinde | so linuxtag can come |
| 22:27.08 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:27.55 | khem | woglinde: is there someone who will use nptl on uclibc arm ? |
| 22:28.01 | woglinde | yes |
| 22:28.03 | woglinde | me |
| 22:28.05 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:28.12 | Laibsch | khem: The fix is against .dev or bitbake? |
| 22:28.21 | khem | Laibsch: .dev |
| 22:28.22 | Laibsch | hi like2wise |
| 22:28.58 | khem | woglinde: OK cool. it will take some time though but won't be long |
| 22:29.17 | woglinde | khem hm |
| 22:29.23 | woglinde | you wrote the port? |
| 22:29.36 | like2wise | khem is pushind and prodding everyone :-) |
| 22:29.40 | woglinde | I thought camelo will check it in |
| 22:29.50 | khem | like2wise: woglinde: not all but I ported ito uclibc trunk severaltimes |
| 22:30.12 | woglinde | with the other nptl archs |
| 22:30.16 | khem | woglinde: carmelo is bringing in the mips|sh nptl |
| 22:30.31 | khem | he won't bring arm together |
| 22:30.35 | khem | it will be done later |
| 22:30.58 | khem | actually arm port was more uptodate with svn till past 4-5 months |
| 22:31.25 | khem | but there is double work first to get the uclibc-nptl merged into trunk which lagged |
| 22:31.30 | khem | and then the arm work |
| 22:31.35 | khem | so one after another |
| 22:32.07 | woglinde | how many people have write access to the svn |
| 22:32.25 | Laibsch | khem: thanks, I guess cia bot is a bit behind again, then |
| 22:32.27 | woglinde | lately I only saw one account only which did check in |
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| 22:32.28 | woglinde | s |
| 22:33.04 | khem | woglinde: uclibc ? |
| 22:33.37 | khem | woglinde: yeah vda has been doing good work he did solve some of long standing problems |
| 22:34.02 | woglinde | khen yes uclibc |
| 22:34.20 | khem | I don't know but there are quite a few |
| 22:34.21 | woglinde | hm but no one is intrested in my patches |
| 22:34.29 | khem | woglinde: sorry |
| 22:34.37 | khem | bug me when you have patches |
| 22:34.48 | woglinde | khem read the bugtracker |
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| 22:35.53 | khem | woglinde: I do that once in a while |
| 22:36.06 | woglinde | hm |
| 22:36.12 | woglinde | or did the integrated meanwhile |
| 22:36.14 | khem | woglinde: if patch is good eventually it will go in |
| 22:37.07 | woglinde | http://bugs.uclibc.org/view.php?id=2894 |
| 22:37.48 | woglinde | http://bugs.uclibc.org/view.php?id=3234 |
| 22:39.39 | khem | woglinde: 2898 should be fixed |
| 22:40.04 | khem | with one of vda's fixes |
| 22:40.14 | khem | did you try svn trunk lately ? |
| 22:40.58 | woglinde | you mean 2894 |
| 22:41.02 | khem | yes |
| 22:41.36 | khem | 3234 is not in yet |
| 22:41.42 | khem | notes it down |
| 22:42.23 | woglinde | nope it isnt fixed |
| 22:44.41 | khem | ok its there in my local tree |
| 22:46.34 | khem | notes first one as wel |
| 22:46.49 | Laibsch | khem: What is the revision? |
| 22:46.56 | Laibsch | I don't think it has made it to the repos, yet |
| 22:47.52 | woglinde | okay |
| 22:47.53 | Laibsch | pokes woglinde about !oebug 1676 |
| 22:47.58 | khem | Laibsch: !oebug 4303 |
| 22:48.00 | woglinde | uhm |
| 22:48.01 | Laibsch | !oebug 1676 |
| 22:48.02 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1676, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-12-12 02:23 |
| 22:48.03 | cdbot2 | * * ronan(AT)aimao.org: Improved autotools.patch for zlib-1.2.3 |
| 22:48.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1676 |
| 22:48.16 | woglinde | ah |
| 22:48.16 | khem | !oebug 4303 |
| 22:48.17 | Laibsch | !oebug 4303 |
| 22:48.18 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 4303, Status: NEW, Created: 2008-05-24 14:50 |
| 22:48.19 | cdbot2 | * * likewise(AT)gmx.net: powerpc-angstrom-linux-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory |
| 22:48.20 | woglinde | close it |
| 22:48.20 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4303 |
| 22:48.32 | Laibsch | woglinde: Can you close it? |
| 22:48.40 | woglinde | I dont know software which uses zlib with pkgconf |
| 22:48.44 | woglinde | okay |
| 22:48.46 | woglinde | will do |
| 22:48.48 | woglinde | than bed |
| 22:48.49 | Laibsch | thanks |
| 22:48.50 | khem | Laibsch: how do I find these nice ! shortcuts |
| 22:49.01 | khem | Laibsch: are they on wiki somewhere ? |
| 22:49.33 | Laibsch | woglinde: You intend to close as wontfix? But it seems that XorA|gone suggested the patch might have some merit. |
| 22:49.48 | Laibsch | khem: you know about them |
| 22:49.52 | Laibsch | !help |
| 22:50.03 | Laibsch | and you play around and try |
| 22:50.08 | khem | !help |
| 22:50.13 | Laibsch | to find out that !help does not work ;-) |
| 22:50.20 | woglinde | hm |
| 22:50.22 | woglinde | xora |
| 22:50.33 | woglinde | okay |
| 22:50.37 | cyrilRomain | khem: or ask CoreDump|afk (I think he made the bot) |
| 22:50.39 | woglinde | than I will put the patch in |
| 22:50.49 | woglinde | but tommorrow |
| 22:50.56 | woglinde | laibsch please remind me *g* |
| 22:51.09 | woglinde | nite all |
| 22:51.16 | Laibsch | I can assign the bug to you |
| 22:51.18 | khem | woglinde: nite |
| 22:51.19 | cyrilRomain | nite woglinde |
| 22:51.59 | Laibsch | woglinde: good night |
| 22:52.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4303 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net |
| 22:52.07 | cdbot2 | * * powerpc-angstrom-linux-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': |
| 22:52.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4303 |
| 22:53.34 | hernan_martinez | hi there |
| 22:55.16 | hernan_martinez | I finally did my new recipe to get my ndiswrapper up and running, but when bitbaking bootstrap-images it only creates the ipk for me , it doesnt put my ndiswrapper files in the rootfs dir nor in the .tar file |
| 22:55.52 | hernan_martinez | how can I tell my bootstrap or my local.conf or my ndiswrapper bb file to put the .ko and executable files in the rootfs ? |
| 22:58.15 | ant_ | g'nite |
| 23:00.15 | cyrilRomain | hernan_martinez: you need IMAGE_INSTALL += "ndiswrapper" in your bootstrap-images based .bb file |
| 23:00.29 | hernan_martinez | thanks |
| 23:01.24 | cyrilRomain | nite all |
| 23:03.29 | Laibsch | khem: I doubt 4303 will fix it for me |
| 23:03.40 | Laibsch | I experienced it again today |
| 23:03.46 | Laibsch | I'll retry |
| 23:04.35 | Laibsch | khem: did the named fix make the glibc-intermediate problems go away for you? |
| 23:04.50 | Laibsch | 4303 is about another parallel baking problem |
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| 23:33.15 | CIA-22 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r5d6e8819... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:33.15 | CIA-22 | linux-rt-2.6.24: Up-date to latest .7-rt10 PREEMPT RT patch. |
| 23:33.15 | CIA-22 | * 2.6.24.3 to 2.6.24.7. |
| 23:33.15 | CIA-22 | * Add 2.6.24.7-rt10 PREEMPT RT patch. |
| 23:33.15 | CIA-22 | * remove one patch which is now fixed upstream |
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