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06:55.04likewisehello all
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06:58.40jeremy_lainelikewise: hello!
06:59.05likewisehi jeremy, busy on all kinds of ppc boards, right?  :-)
06:59.07jeremy_lainelikewise: do you know what h/w revision your mpc8313e-rdb board is?
06:59.17jeremy_lainelikewise: yeah, kind of :)
06:59.42likewiseI think it's a reva3, but let me see if the board is here (I also have 8315e now, with PCIe/SATA)
07:00.36jeremy_lainelikewise: we now have some pretty new boards at work and the LEDs are acting funny, they are blinking on their own, looks like it happens when there is NAND activity
07:00.57jeremy_laine(and no, this is not on purpose, I am talking about LEDs with no trigger bound to them)
07:01.17likewiseI yes, you told me about this earlier.
07:01.25likewiseBoard is not here, but I remember A3
07:02.53jeremy_lainebugger.. oh well, I guess we can push the patch anyway
07:03.30jeremy_laineone thing I was wondering about: does the LEDs driver work for mpc8315 too?
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08:15.58Genesisbonjour
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08:19.50likewise_waves hello
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09:10.36Jin^eLDRP: ping :> allthough I had POKYLIB = "uclibc"
09:11.00Jin^eLDit still did NOTE: package glibc-2.6.1-r3: task do_package: failed
09:11.16Jin^eLDlocaledef stuff
09:11.42Jin^eLDor is it ok that in uclibc mode glibc does the binary locale generation?
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09:49.43mw``hi
09:53.24mw``why do i have to specify 'KERNEL=kernel26' in a distro configuration? where is this variable used?
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09:58.33hrwmorning
09:58.44hrwmw``: ignore that var - it is deprecated
10:01.09mw``hrw: ok thanks and MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION?
10:04.04hrwalso ignore
10:04.20hrwit was used for 2.4/2.6 switching for devices which had both
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10:20.05floriangood morning
10:21.04florianlrg: I really like the theme of opensource.wolfsonmicro.com - but someone should theme the favicon :)
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10:21.30lrgflorian: morning
10:22.07lrgflorian: true, it should be better
10:22.38lrgflorian: btw, did Nils tell you about King of Clubs ?
10:22.55broonieflorian: Unfortunately there isn't an official Wolfson favicon. :(
10:22.59Croftonanyone know what happened to bugzilla?
10:23.04florianlrg: No not yet, he is still travelling
10:23.28broonieAt least the Drupal one doesn't look out of place with the actual theme :)
10:23.47lrgflorian: ask him when he's back - it was a weird pub
10:23.54florianbroonie: Just take one of the 'waves' from the top right and scale it down. That should fit pretty well.
10:24.20florianlrg: Will do so... :) He'll be back saturday iirc.
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10:25.45zarathhi
10:26.13zarathis there a current mirror for monotone.openembedded.org?
10:28.14florianlrg: Do you know a nice git magic to break out a big patch from the wolfson git tree? I am not yet used to git and have my local tree not managed with it yet :-}
10:28.40broonieflorian: diff of the current dev branch from v2.6.25: git diff v2.6.25..dev
10:28.41florianzarath: uh... looks like dns is wrong again
10:29.17florianbroonie: ok. will try - many thanks. should be easy since I use 2.6.25
10:33.23florianzarath: dns is right, but it looks like the machine in extremely slow.
10:33.49florianWhere is mickeyl?
10:34.18likewisesomebody knows a working url/ip for the bugtracker?
10:34.43hrwbugs.openembedded.net
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10:35.52Croftonhrw, not loading ...
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10:37.03likewiseproductivity down the drain :-/
10:37.13likewiseI have become OE dependent :-)
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10:38.56florianIt seems to be better now...
10:38.59hrwand I promised myself to not discuss about OE dns or OE hosting
10:42.03florianhehe
10:43.00brooniehrw: Ranting doesn't count as discussion :)
10:47.44florianbroonie: My git does not like this syntax... it treats the whole argument as a revision.
10:48.23broonieflorian: try v2.6.25..origin/dev
10:48.57florianbroonie: ah.... this looks better - many thanks!
10:49.01broonie'dev' is a local branch so if you haven't created one yet you need to reference the remote tracking branch (==copy of the branch from the server)
10:50.14florianobviously...
10:52.35florianbroonie: Looks good, so lets see if I can make one of your customers happy :)
10:52.54broonieHow could they be otherwise!
10:54.19florianoh, a new Mainstone touchscreen driver...
10:55.31hrwflorian: 3rd or 5th one?
10:56.08florianhrw: no idea... but you are right: The Mainstone has a very special history ;)
10:56.22XorAburn all mainstones
10:56.32florianThere are even more (bad) keypad drivers.
10:57.05florianXorA: I bought one for ~34 EUR last year :)
10:59.36hrwflorian: mainstone?
10:59.43florianhrw: yes
10:59.50hrwflorian: nice deal
10:59.52LaibschWhat is the current status on mtn/git/hg?
11:00.43hrwLaibsch: mtn like it was, git/hg none
11:00.46hrwhi Cliff
11:00.50cbrakehello Marcin
11:00.58florianhrw: indeed... compared to its price some time ago
11:01.48Laibschhrw: So, nobody is taking *any* decision just because there is no unanymous vote?
11:02.29floriansupposes people are just busy
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11:04.48LaibschSo is there any technical work left to be done?
11:05.04LaibschBeing too busy to cast a vote and make a decision sounds awkward
11:06.05tnt_What's the best way in a machine configuration to ensure that a cflag is included ?
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11:07.26hrwLaibsch: being too buys to setup git/hg server for trial?
11:07.42Croftonit sounds like Hg would be easier to setup
11:07.45Croftongit harder
11:07.47LaibschI thought we already had a git server?
11:07.59Laibschplus ltg has git support, doesn't it?
11:08.16Croftonltg falls over if you look at it funny ...
11:08.25LaibschFurthermore this technical obstacle to further the discussion has not been communicated AFIACT
11:08.36LaibschAFAICT
11:09.05Laibschwhat is necessary for testing?
11:09.20Croftona git guru ?
11:09.21LaibschContinuous updates/syncs?
11:09.36Croftonneeds to go use windows :(
11:09.38Laibschis no git guru but willing to set up some infrastructure
11:10.03hrwwaits for DHL courier
11:10.07hrwnew toy
11:10.09Laibschhrw: What are people looking to test out?
11:10.44Laibschhow zecke's mtn2git script works?
11:10.48Laibschhow well ...
11:11.27thesinghi everybody
11:11.36thesinghrw: what is your new toy?
11:12.11florianbroonie, lrg: Cool - works, good work!
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11:22.16hrwthesing: one of devices which I work on for some time
11:22.50thesinghrw: no details?
11:24.09hrwnot now
11:33.06broonieSetting up either server should be pretty noddy, really.
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11:38.43cbrakebroonie: a git server is pretty easy to set up using gitosis if you are willing to forgo the "make sure the commiter is who they say they are" checks
11:39.01cbrakebroonie: that is a difficult problem to solve
11:39.36Laibschcbrake: I guess we could skip that problem for testing out ro functionality right now
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11:40.24brooniehasn't used gitosi
11:40.42brooniebut the auth stuff is going to be *fairly* ornamental anyway
11:41.33Laibschnoddy? ornamental?
11:41.48Laibschyou use interesting words ;-)
11:42.04Laibschbroonie: Do I see a volunteer?
11:42.41XorAcurrently mtn is setup with no authentication :-)
11:45.13Laibschwell, to commit your key has to be among the accepted ones
11:45.23LaibschAin't that authentication?
11:45.57XorALaibsch: thats not true
11:46.30brooniePotentially but it's not like I have enormous involvement in OE in the normal course of affairs.
11:47.47Laibschbroonie: Here is your chance!
11:47.52LaibschXorA: in what way?
11:49.19XorALaibsch: you can commit without a valid key
11:49.31XorALaibsch: but Im not going to go into details
11:50.29LaibschOh
11:50.34LaibschSounds like a backdoor to me
12:01.38mw``the uclibc 0.9.29 seems to be depended on installed ncurses development files
12:04.07mw``(the initial version at least)
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12:06.23hrwtime to merge poky fix then
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12:16.26mw``whats the difference between PREFERRED_PROVIDER and PREFERRED_PROVIDERS?
12:22.38CIA-2103hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3afb4ffc... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc.inc): uclibc: use ncurses-native instead of host one (from Poky)
12:24.01mwalleui ;)
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13:30.27cbrakestarts looking at mtn2git ...
13:31.38likewise__jeremy_laine: didn't boot the 8315 boards yet. Busy with avr32 atm.
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13:37.41ant_RP: zaurus-updater still has the old issue using packaged-staging : install: cannot stat `updater.sh': No such file or directory
13:37.57kariooe moving from mtn to git?
13:38.15ant_sooner or later
13:39.20Genesisabout git
13:39.34Genesisi try packaging something that work with git
13:40.05Genesisgit clone http://mydns.tld/linux-xx.git
13:40.27Genesisi get it like this , and i don't find the right SRC_URI syntax
13:40.30Genesisany idea ?
13:41.11ant_Genesis: you'd look at the u-boot recipes
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13:42.23hrwor linux*git recipes
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13:45.13Genesisthey all use git://
13:47.23ant_hrw: any idea why zaurus-updater doesn't package updater.sh for staging anymore?
13:47.49hrwupdater.sh was never staged
13:48.05hrwGenesis: git:// is for fetcher
13:48.11ant_I deleted all in /tmp apart /pstage
13:48.16hrwGenesis: you need "proto=http"
13:48.28ant_hrw: RP already pushed a fix for this...
13:48.39hrwah. did not noticed
13:48.49ant_now is broken again...renaming issue?
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13:51.45ant_hrw: BTW clean and rebuild fixes the issue of course
13:53.59ant_RP: that's new msg Multiple packages (staging-zaurus-updater-c7x0-angstrom-linux-gnueabi and staging-zaurus-updater-c7x0-angstrom-linux-gnueabi) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
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16:08.18hrwbye
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16:46.22woglindehi mr_nice
16:46.59woglindemr_nice woking on patches for 2.6.25 *g*?
16:48.13mr_nicehi woglinde, i hope i will find some time for it at this weekend
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16:55.23CIA-2103khem 07org.oe.dev * r8ad9557a... 10/ (1 packages/make/make.inc): Fix make to compile on uclibc.
16:55.27CIA-2103khem 07org.oe.dev * r2c516ae9... 10/ (1 packages/diffutils/diffutils_2.8.1.bb): make diffutils compile on EABI uclibc.
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16:57.21Genesisbonne soirée
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17:16.25zefanjahi..i want to build xserver-kdrive but I get this error: http://www.pastebin.ca/995985 Can anyone help me?
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17:26.48cbrakezefanja: looks like the configure script in xserver-kdrive is look at files on the host system when it should not be
17:27.10cbrakezefanja: I'll try a build here
17:27.43zefanjacbrake: thanks
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18:05.16TartarusHmm
18:05.27TartarusDidn't khem post a patch for gdb 6.8?
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18:08.50zefanjacbrake: any results?
18:09.09cbrakezefanja: I can pull from oe monotone server :-(
18:09.13cbrake*can't
18:09.28cbrakethe last time I built, it worked fine for a PXA270 platform
18:09.36cbrakezefanja: but I can't test with the latest ATM
18:10.34zefanjacbrake: hmm...ok. I build it yesterday without problems, but today I do a rebuild and get this error :-(
18:11.06cbrakezefanja: did you update the oe metatdata between the success and failure?
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18:12.00zefanjacbrake: hmm...i don't really know...I think yes
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19:08.34zefanjaso what can I do?
19:13.38cbrakezefanja: just got a successful pull
19:13.39cbrake:-)
19:14.03zefanjacbrake: hmm ;-)
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19:24.53cbrakezefanja: rebuilding gcc -- it will be awhile ...
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20:49.47cbrakezarath: xserver-kdrive just built for me
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21:01.04likewisehi khem
21:01.21woglindejo khem
21:01.41khemhey guys
21:01.56khemconsole-image with uclibc built
21:02.01khemI am so happy
21:04.24woglindehm what are the make errors?
21:04.31woglindeyou patched
21:05.09khemmake does not compile on uclibc
21:05.25khembecause of GNU_GLOB support is not compiled into default uclibc
21:05.29woglindehm
21:05.31woglindeokay
21:05.36woglindedidnt need make
21:05.39woglindeon my arm
21:05.42khemthis patch forces make to use its own glob
21:05.46woglindeso I didnt see the error
21:05.57khemwoglinde: I am trying to run uclibc testsuite
21:06.04khemit needs make and ncurses
21:06.54khemyeah right now I have few local patches to uclibc that I will push
21:07.11khemand also some angstrom-2008.1 conf patches
21:07.22woglindekhem yes I saw the fixes in svn head
21:07.31likewisekhem: so this affected all archs, which target are you targetting/testing on?
21:07.39khemqemu-arm
21:07.46khemthat's all I have at home
21:07.51khemI have no hardware
21:07.53woglindehm the thread fix is for all archs
21:08.00khemyes
21:08.07woglindebut I hope nptl hits soon
21:08.09khemtheory of associativity
21:08.09woglinde*g*
21:08.16khemI have to burry deep
21:08.26khemmyself to get arm stuff up
21:08.30Tartarushey khem
21:08.39TartarusDidn't you have a gdb-6.8 patch for OE? :)
21:08.43khemthat's another reason I am getting qemuarm uclibc setup
21:08.52likewisekhem: hmmm, you should try to ask a beagleboard or some other nifty cheap gadget (NGW100)...
21:09.07khemTartarus: I did however I did not push it still because I have not tested target gdb yet
21:09.25likewisestarts to love his new apple.
21:09.50dcordes_yum
21:10.44Tartarusah
21:10.51TartarusJust gdbserver?
21:11.06khemTartarus: no complete gdb actually
21:11.10khemincluding gdbserver
21:11.19TartarusI mean what you have tested ;)
21:11.31khemTartarus: cross
21:11.43khemwith old gdbserver
21:12.11TartarusAh
21:12.38khemyep now I will try spending some time getting nptl uclibc work done if I have some time
21:12.41TartarusWhat type of testing would you need done (distro, etc) before pushing?  Looks like we need to give a customer (OABI arm) a 6.8 gdb
21:13.02khemhmmm I usually run gdb regression testsuite
21:13.20khemso far haven't got it going for native toolchain components
21:13.38khemI was fiddling to get GPE working on qemu for esoteric reasons
21:13.45Tartarusah
21:14.29khemlet me try to get the gdb-6.8 thingy sorted out if it behaves on uclibc
21:14.39khembecause that's the latest root file system I have
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21:48.28khemTartarus: I think I can push gdb-6.8 results look ok I have not analysed any fails though
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21:57.02dcordes_XorA|gone: linux-kaiser failed
21:57.44CIA-2103khem 07org.oe.dev * r32c42c21... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Add GDB 6.8
21:59.11dcordes_XorA|gone: http://pastebin.com/m32e1e051
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21:59.35dcordes_I had the same with my attempt to add up the git
21:59.48dcordes_just wonder if it is a problem with my git or so
22:00.22RPdcordes_: SRCREV isn't set
22:00.54RPneeds more hours in the day
22:00.57XorA|goneoh yeah, I set mine in local.conf
22:01.05XorA|goneRP: you have a kaiser as well?
22:01.21RPXorA|gone: I have no idea, do I?
22:01.39XorA|goneRP: I was wondering if you randoming sat up at the name Kaiser, its a HTC phone
22:01.46cbrakeRP: thanks for the clues on the -c rebuild
22:01.49dcordes_XorA|gone: can you paste the srcrev line?
22:01.55RPXorA|gone: no, I don't :)
22:02.07RPXorA|gone: I thought someone might be talking about a git server
22:02.10XorA|gonedcordes_: SRCREV_pn-linux-kaiser = "f102b551df236570d85daff753c52f06b6099fd4"
22:02.23RPGetting one setup and working for a trial is on my todo list and half done
22:02.54RPcbrake: np, I was already aware rebuild had issues, that adds another issue to the list of problems :/
22:03.08dcordes_XorA|gone: thanks
22:03.35XorA|gonedcordes_: if that patch breaks, just change that number to be a rev on correct day for patch :-)
22:05.03CroftonRP, thanks from me also, I had pretty much come to the same conclusion (don't use rebuild) but without knowing why
22:05.13dcordes_XorA|gone: useful! where can I look the rev stuff up?
22:05.25XorA|gonedcordes_: gitweb will tell you the revs
22:05.33dcordes_k
22:05.40XorA|gonedcordes_: just find the log for the day and click on commit link
22:05.53XorA|gonedcordes_: or gitk if you pulled the repo
22:06.16RPThe rebuild issue is a really really painful problem :(
22:06.49XorA|goneRP: easy fix, remove command :-)
22:06.53RPHow to make one task inject another task before a set of others in a generic fashion
22:07.01RPXorA|gone: I'm seriously tempted ;-)
22:07.20XorA|gonenever noticed as his fingers type -c clean, -c compile automatically these days
22:07.38dcordes_XorA|gone: ok. I just looked at the recent commits. I doubt they will break the patch. just some specific for their evaluation board, mmc, usb which we don't use
22:09.24dcordes_the patch also adds up .config for kaiser
22:10.31RPupgrades poky qemu. No more need for gcc 3.x and new n800 networking support :)
22:10.44XorA|gonedcordes_: thats why I did a blank do_configure_prepend
22:10.49dcordes_has pinky on akita
22:11.09RPdcordes_: How are you finding it?
22:11.43flo_lapwaits for dcordes_ answering "Google" ;)
22:11.53dcordes_I like poky a lot. It's probably the best GUI around for akita
22:12.36XorA|gonekicks git, checkout faster goddamit
22:12.45XorA|gonewants to go sleep
22:13.01Croftonpython dudes, a python script on Angstrom is failing with ImportError: No module named threading
22:13.03dcordes_flo_lap: heh I just like their kernel hackerse and git :)
22:13.10dcordes_hackers
22:13.19flo_lapheh
22:13.33RPdcordes_: :)
22:13.55XorA|goneCrofton: you probably need to extend python packaging to package that module
22:14.02XorA|goneCrofton: not all modules are packaged
22:14.10Croftonhmmm, oken said this worked
22:14.17CroftonI'm wondering if it is packaged
22:14.23XorA|goneCrofton: or install the module :-)
22:14.27Croftonand I jsut can't work out the package name
22:15.09XorA|gonepython-threading
22:15.34flo_lapI should go to sleep too... but there is that much to do.
22:15.42Croftonfrak
22:15.48Croftonno network on my beagle .....
22:15.55Croftonoh well, I need to mow
22:17.01dcordes_RP: are you guys making an angstrom-task-sato? not just gpe theme but the whole matchbox-2 stuff poky has
22:17.31RPdcordes_: We have no plans for angstrom atm, no
22:21.32XorA|gonekicks git in the hope that it speeds up
22:21.47dcordes_XorA|gone: patch failed
22:22.02RPXorA|gone: could be worse, could be monotone
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22:24.05flo_lapAh, we are on topic again ;-)
22:24.16kgilmerhi.  out of curiosity, why is org.openembedded.dev used instead of stable in the getting started guide?
22:24.31flo_lap~monotone
22:24.32ibotrumour has it, monotone is a free distributed version control system with performance issues.  See http://venge.net/monotone/ for details.
22:24.48flo_laphrm... i'm tired
22:24.55flo_lap~lart monotone
22:24.55ibotthrows a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at monotone
22:25.19flo_lapkgilmer: stable is quite new
22:25.56XorA|gonehides from the SCM topic
22:25.57dcordes_XorA|gone: it tries to patch in an empty directory of name pname-pver. that should be git
22:26.10flo_lapI missed that discussion anyway... suddenly the Angstrom branch was stable
22:26.10dcordes_I guess we have to change $WORKDIR?
22:26.30dcordes_sounds like windows ce development lol
22:26.33XorA|gonedcordes_: S = "${WORKDIR}/git" in linux-kaiser.bb
22:26.39dcordes_k
22:26.41kgilmergotcha.  but...it's stable?  so i should be able to substitute it and be ok?
22:26.47XorA|gonedcordes_: I forgot to add that
22:27.46dcordes_the pathnames are kind of sick with the git rev in them
22:31.09dcordes_XorA|gone: how can I do a menuconfig before the build starts?
22:31.20XorA|gonebitbake -c menuconfig
22:31.49dcordes_and after that -c compile?
22:32.16XorA|gonepersonally Ive never used it, I normally just cd into directory and ARCH=arm make menuconfig
22:34.47dcordes_ERROR: Function do_compile failed
22:35.44dcordes_oh that's gcc-cross
22:36.05XorA|gonedcordes_: I give up for tonight, cya tomorrow
22:36.20dcordes_XorA|gone: ok cya
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22:45.41mickeylhi flo
22:48.48khemI should not have stressed qemu that much now my system says its consuming 102%
22:48.54khemprocessor time
22:48.57khem:)
22:49.33dcordes_khem: theat's heavy
22:54.30Tartaruskhem, any chance you could send me the  gdb6.8 patch?
22:56.45dcordes_I get this on do_patch: ERROR: Exception:<class 'NotFoundError'> Message:Error: "/path/to/kernelsrc/roodir/" not found. Although /path/to/kernelsrc/roodir/ exists and contains the kernel source root. is that porbably a bitbake bug?
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23:13.53flo_laphi kpanic
23:16.05kpanicI don't know if it's the correct channel, but I want to try to develop an app on my motorola a1200e (just for fun), openembedded can help? thanks
23:18.09flo_lapkpanic: I guess it could in theory, but it would be hard to set up an environment to build applications for its original software image.
23:24.06kpanicflo_lap, uhm, is there another possibility that you know to develop on this phone?
23:25.02dcordes_kpanic: are you going to make your program for the normal moto platform or for something like openmoko?
23:25.27flo_lapthat would have been my next question too ;)
23:26.28kpanicdcordes_, atm, I would like for the standard moto platform
23:30.11dcordes_currently OE does not support that
23:31.07dcordes_in case you are going to cope with openmoko on a1200 that's different
23:33.43kpanicok thanks
23:35.03dcordes_maybe http://openezx.org/ can help?
23:36.07kpanicI will check it out
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23:36.17dcordes_ok good luck
23:37.05dcordes_I don't know how well openmoko works on the motorolas but maybe it would be just right for your purpose.
23:37.35thesingnight all.
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23:42.17dcordes_flo_lap: do you have any clue about the problem I referred to above?
23:44.00flo_lapdcordes_: "roodir" looks broken
23:46.11dcordes_oops that's just a typo. the path in the error was too long to paste.
23:47.28dcordes_copying the path bitbake claims to be not present and cding to it turns out it is prsent
23:48.36flo_laphmm... then it might be a quotation issue. or really a bug... it seems to try to handle the path as a class.
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23:56.38dcordes_!paste
23:56.47dcordes_flo_lap: doesn't OE have an extra pastebin?
23:57.48flo_lapdcordes_: If it had this would be new to me.

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