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| 03:47.46 | CIA-21 | libtomcrypt: fix SRC_URI (close oebug 4159), bump to 1.17, fix staging |
| 03:47.46 | CIA-21 | * no idea why the previous maintainer leave do_install empty, but assuming there is a legit reason. |
| 03:49.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4159 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xjqian(AT)gmail.com |
| 03:49.06 | cdbot2 | * * libtomcrypt URL changes |
| 03:49.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4159 |
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| 05:13.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 4174 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xjqian(AT)gmail.com |
| 05:13.06 | cdbot2 | * * lib-sdl-qpe cannot be build |
| 05:13.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4174 |
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| 06:56.19 | methril | morning |
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| 07:55.37 | cedric_ | hi |
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| 07:59.36 | cedric_ | which task do I need to clean to be sure an images get the correct set of ipks? |
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| 09:02.00 | cedric_ | what do I need to do build a local feed? |
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| 09:12.24 | hrw | morning |
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| 09:34.09 | florian | good morning |
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| 09:42.52 | thesing | morning all |
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| 10:23.54 | Jin^eLD | re |
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| 10:41.58 | CIA-21 | 03thesing 07org.oe.dev * r9bafa1b7... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:41.58 | CIA-21 | klibc: add wc to tools |
| 10:41.58 | CIA-21 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.44 | steliosk | hrw : can you remind your naming proposal for the p4 celleron package arch ? |
| 10:44.50 | hrw | i686p4 |
| 10:45.25 | hrw | steliosk: or i686p4c if you want to mark celeron tuning |
| 10:45.52 | hrw | but i686p4 should be ok for -mtune=celeron or -mtune=pentium4 |
| 10:46.23 | XorA | not all celerons are pentium4 |
| 10:46.35 | hrw | so we would have i686 i686p3 i686p4 i686c2d etc |
| 10:46.48 | hrw | XorA: -march=pentium4 -mtune=celeron are steliosk's settings |
| 10:47.50 | XorA | when -march is pentium4 I bet the mtune is a NOP |
| 10:48.05 | CM | rschuster: Sorry if you're the wrong person to ask, but if cacao fails to compile, should I file a bug at cacaojvm.org or oe.org? |
| 10:48.39 | steliosk | According to the recent gcc -march defines the instruction set and mtune the "schedulling" of the commands |
| 10:49.01 | XorA | yeah, but when you say, use latest you cant then tune for an older cpu :-) |
| 10:49.18 | steliosk | yes |
| 10:49.27 | XorA | things like -march=i386 -mtune=celeron would make code run everywhere, but best on celeron |
| 10:49.35 | steliosk | or at least i think so |
| 10:49.51 | steliosk | in oe we need i486 |
| 10:51.04 | steliosk | the thing is that there are so many 'weird' cores with or without certain instructions or will instructions that operate differently depending on the schedulling |
| 10:51.06 | thesing | is x86 in oe handled like any other arch or is there a shortcut (e.g. no toolchain build) ? |
| 10:51.30 | steliosk | it builds like eveyrhing else |
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| 10:52.17 | steliosk | having code that runs on all machines is one things, but having code that runs better for a specific board/cpu is another |
| 10:53.43 | thesing | btw. did anybody try to run oe on not x86 arch? |
| 10:56.55 | steliosk | thesing : what do you mean ? |
| 10:57.09 | steliosk | i am using i686 and x86 a lot |
| 10:57.48 | thesing | steliosk: I mean building images using oe on a ppc, mips or arm host. |
| 10:58.13 | CIA-21 | 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r7845f20b... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): swt-gtk: Do not install/stage swt-pi.jar and swt.jar any more. |
| 11:00.28 | steliosk | thesing : i have been told that someone was building OE on ppc g3 or g4. I have a g4 machine laying around and intend to try it, but no time yet |
| 11:00.49 | steliosk | was building OE -> some time back |
| 11:00.55 | steliosk | not sure if .dev builds now |
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| 11:24.25 | Crofton | steliosk, the mainstream distros seem to not generate custom packages for every possible x86 CPU |
| 11:24.45 | hrw | Crofton: but we are |
| 11:25.04 | hrw | Crofton: i486 mplayer is much much slower then sse/mmx/3dnow mplayer |
| 11:25.36 | Crofton | can't mplayer run time detect available extensions? |
| 11:27.31 | NineX | Crofton: mplayer yes, but not all apps have this functionality. btw mplayer cpudetection costs lot of memory that application need to allocate |
| 11:27.35 | hrw | ok, it can but it was example |
| 11:27.51 | Crofton | :) |
| 11:28.14 | Crofton | suspects mainstream distros assume infinite disk space also |
| 11:28.46 | Crofton | but I don't think building 50 different versions of mplayer is sane either |
| 11:29.00 | NineX | is an gentoo user - all my applications are optimized for my hardware |
| 11:29.24 | NineX | Crofton: why not ? |
| 11:29.25 | NineX | :> |
| 11:31.47 | NineX | Crofton: /dev/sda6 123T 39T 85T 31% /home |
| 11:33.26 | NineX | hrw: load 1023.0 1101.0 1800.0 <- i consider hard reset |
| 11:33.37 | CM | Hehe |
| 11:33.40 | Jin^eLD | hmm, how to enforce an OABI build with angstrom? setting the ARM_ABI variable does not do the trick |
| 11:34.56 | hrw | steliosk: please do not steal threads ;( |
| 11:35.19 | hrw | [oe] union fs -> [oe] union fs -> [oe] union fs |
| 11:35.31 | hrw | [oe] union fs -> [oe] union fs -> [oe] union fs -> [oe] stelios about archs |
| 11:35.33 | hrw | argh |
| 11:37.18 | Jin^eLD | mhm, so any ideas about oabi setting? or is that rather a question for the ml? using .stable |
| 11:45.27 | Crofton | ANGSTROM_MODE maybe |
| 11:45.33 | Crofton | maybe that was libc tough |
| 11:45.35 | Crofton | though |
| 11:45.40 | Jin^eLD | Crofton: nah, that's uclibc/glibc/eglibc selection |
| 11:46.07 | Jin^eLD | angstrom has an ARM_ABI thing in the configs and it sets it itself depending on machines, I tried overriding with := but it did not do the trick |
| 11:46.55 | Crofton | in linux.inc the selection is controlled by TARGET_OS |
| 11:46.55 | Jin^eLD | I managed to derive an own distro where I could produce EABI/OABI stuff on demand, but I hoped to be able to do it with Angstrom too |
| 11:47.22 | Crofton | I think you need TARGET_OS=linux, not linux-gnueabi |
| 11:47.37 | Jin^eLD | maybe that's what I missed |
| 11:47.41 | Jin^eLD | I will try that, thanks |
| 11:47.55 | Crofton | np, I happened to be looking in linux.inc atm |
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| 12:00.34 | steliosk | hrw : opps did a reply and forgot to change he subject |
| 12:01.44 | hrw | steliosk: NEVER use reply to start thread |
| 12:01.48 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
| 12:01.53 | mickeyl | hi hrw |
| 12:02.11 | hrw | steliosk: each normal mail application has thing called "new mail" |
| 12:02.12 | XorA | steliosk: you bad bad man, you forgot the In-Reply-To: headers |
| 12:02.39 | steliosk | XorA: not me... its the outlooks fault ;) |
| 12:03.00 | XorA | ~boltfromheavens steliosk |
| 12:03.01 | steliosk | which i am not sure or worst thing to claim |
| 12:03.17 | steliosk | mickeyl : hi ! |
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| 12:06.44 | mickeyl | hi steliosk |
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| 12:33.58 | cedric_ | to produce a working local feed, do I need to run anything extra? at the moment it complains (on the device) that it can't download the Packages.sig |
| 12:35.04 | XorA | gpg -sign Packages |
| 12:35.54 | XorA | --detach-sign is needed I think |
| 12:36.38 | NAbyss | XorA: And -a too, I'd imagine |
| 12:36.55 | XorA | I dont think it needs to be ascii armored |
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| 12:41.23 | cedric_ | the official angstrom feed don't have a sig file... |
| 12:42.03 | XorA | cedric_: file a bug then |
| 12:42.40 | cedric_ | XorA: is this a requited thing for opkg? |
| 12:42.49 | hrw | cedric_: use opkg-nogpg instead of opkg? |
| 12:42.59 | cedric_ | hrw: nice |
| 12:44.17 | XorA | better to file a bug, because Angstrom would benefit from signed feeds |
| 12:44.31 | cedric_ | ok I'll |
| 12:46.05 | hrw | XorA: but who will sign them? |
| 12:46.18 | XorA | hrw: the feed update scripts can |
| 12:46.27 | XorA | hrw: can make an angstrom official key |
| 12:47.03 | XorA | then we make an anstrom-file-bug command that detects 3rd party broken feeds and packages :-) |
| 12:47.25 | cedric_ | hrw: can I have opkg and opkg-nopgp coexist in the same system? |
| 12:47.33 | hrw | no |
| 12:47.51 | cedric_ | ah that's why I can install it... |
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| 13:16.37 | cedric_ | ok now how to import my public key to the device? gpg is not a OE package |
| 13:16.48 | NAbyss | cedric_: gnupg? |
| 13:17.12 | cedric_ | :-) |
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| 13:28.18 | cedric_ | XorA, hrw, NAByss: thx it works... |
| 13:29.06 | XorA | cedric: sorted |
| 13:33.48 | cedric_ | XorA: yep |
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| 13:41.59 | cedric_ | the Packages* file are generated every time I'm building a new package? or is there any thing to update these? |
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| 13:44.23 | XorA | bitbake package-index |
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| 13:48.57 | CIA-21 | davinci-sffsdr machine : Update kernel config, add board patch, |
| 13:48.58 | CIA-21 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.58 | CIA-21 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:20.08 | ScaredyCat | taps florian |
| 14:21.04 | florian | uh? :) |
| 14:21.06 | XorA | taps ScaredyCat with a 150lbs lump hammer |
| 14:21.35 | ScaredyCat | www.angstrom-distribution.org in on the same box as monotone ? |
| 14:21.47 | XorA | ScaredyCat: nope |
| 14:21.56 | ScaredyCat | mmm |
| 14:22.07 | XorA | ScaredyCat: monotone is port forwarded to a different machine |
| 14:22.16 | ScaredyCat | gahhh |
| 14:22.19 | ScaredyCat | slaps people |
| 14:22.45 | ScaredyCat | well www.angstrom-distribution.org is down anyway... |
| 14:22.52 | ScaredyCat | whoever needs to know.. |
| 14:23.02 | ScaredyCat | slaps XorA a few times |
| 14:26.48 | dcordes | ~lart ScaredyCat |
| 14:26.48 | ibot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at ScaredyCat |
| 14:27.18 | ScaredyCat | farts in dcordes general direction |
| 14:27.31 | chouimat|work | dies |
| 14:28.11 | florian | ~lart Apache |
| 14:28.11 | ibot | farts in Apache's general direction |
| 14:28.24 | XorA | heh |
| 14:29.11 | ScaredyCat | thinks that machine runs on a zx81 |
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| 14:30.22 | florian | ScaredyCat: Unlikely... it servers ~800 GB a month. |
| 14:30.47 | ScaredyCat | slowly |
| 14:31.12 | florian | Donations welcome :-) |
| 14:31.16 | ScaredyCat | seems to have woken up now... |
| 14:31.36 | ScaredyCat | donates XorA's legs |
| 14:33.08 | XorA | I dont think some ugly hairy legs will help florian optimise apache :-) |
| 14:34.00 | ScaredyCat | they might scare him into fixing it ;) |
| 14:34.57 | dcordes | creepy |
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| 14:44.19 | hrw | ScaredyCat: we can take any spare rack machine from you |
| 14:45.00 | ScaredyCat | spare? can you have spare machines? |
| 14:45.02 | ScaredyCat | :) |
| 14:46.30 | hrw | ScaredyCat: then do not complain ;D |
| 14:46.51 | ScaredyCat | I wasn't complaining as much as trying to notify ... |
| 14:46.59 | ScaredyCat | it was very slow... |
| 14:47.03 | ScaredyCat | so needed a kick.. |
| 14:47.09 | hrw | ScaredyCat: ltg machine is slow always |
| 14:47.22 | ScaredyCat | I'm sure if I had a spare machine you could have it |
| 14:48.00 | hrw | I have spare amd64 cpu |
| 14:48.29 | ScaredyCat | just the cpu ? |
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| 14:52.23 | hrw | yes |
| 14:52.45 | hrw | it was left from my amd64 3200+ -> amd64 x2 4200+ upgrade |
| 14:56.32 | hrw | and its price is so low that I do not even want to sell it |
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| 15:56.15 | hrw | bye |
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| 17:02.42 | pvanhoof | florian, tmut has simple account management now |
| 17:02.51 | pvanhoof | time to replace gpephone's email client? :) |
| 17:03.27 | pvanhoof | or perhaps just quickly rewrite it by making tmut having a compiletime option to build it as a library and subclassing all of tmut's high level types? :) |
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| 17:27.02 | Jin^eLD | re |
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| 18:47.27 | steliosk | hrw : Have a look at this -> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Geode_LX_.28AMD.29 |
| 18:48.38 | steliosk | hrw : not just for the geode, but for all the x86 arches |
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| 19:08.53 | cbrake | steliosk: nice reference. The gentoo project does produce good documentation |
| 19:19.12 | steliosk | cbrake : yes it summarizes what i found searching the net over the last few days |
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| 19:23.39 | Fique | morning all |
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| 20:08.38 | CIA-21 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r93a15d8b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf): angstrom 2008: remove oz mirror from tarball stash |
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| 20:11.59 | Crofton | damn, now I can't stalk mickeyl by ip number |
| 20:12.19 | mickeyl | heh |
| 20:12.32 | XorA|gone | big cheater |
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| 20:12.55 | XorA|gone | Crofton: just take control of Frankfurt CCTV nerwork instead :-) |
| 20:13.23 | Crofton | or we fix him up with an 810 that broadcasts his lat/lon |
| 20:13.31 | CIA-21 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9de6d1cc... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-davinci_2.6.x+git-davinci.bb): linux-davince: fix PV and anchor SRCREV inside the recipe to avoid reparse penalties |
| 20:14.17 | XorA|gone | Crofton: buy his wife shoes in turn for spying |
| 20:14.52 | mickeyl | you guys have crazy ideas :D |
| 20:15.02 | mickeyl | sabine is not a treater for shoes |
| 20:15.12 | mickeyl | you will have to offer her different things |
| 20:15.31 | mwester | chocolate always works. |
| 20:16.43 | XorA|gone | mickeyl: if we get crazy enough we get allowed to work in marketing :-) |
| 20:17.08 | mickeyl | *cough* |
| 20:17.13 | mickeyl | oh that's your plan? :D |
| 20:18.11 | CosmicPenguin | If it is, then we're going to have to ask you to leave |
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| 20:37.53 | CIA-21 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb8d314e8... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-davinci_2.6.x+git-davinci.bb): |
| 20:37.53 | CIA-21 | linux-davinci: fix thinko, you can't use ?= with srcrev, since bitbake.conf still sets it |
| 20:37.53 | CIA-21 | * Mickey, how does that fit into your "no distro" proposal? |
| 20:56.41 | CIA-21 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rba1cc115... 10/ (1 classes/kernel.bbclass): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:56.41 | CIA-21 | kernel bbclass: have modules.tgz have the same version and packages and deployed images (PV) instead of pulling it out of the makefile (KERNEL_VERSION) |
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