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| 00:02.05 | CIA-35 | the web gui pages, update the NOTES with the latest changes. |
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| 00:02.05 | CIA-35 | Unslung: rootfs - increase disk-settling delay time in linuxrc, clarify text on some of |
| 00:02.06 | CIA-35 | the web gui pages, update the NOTES with the latest changes. |
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| 00:02.48 | CIA-35 | Unslung: rootfs - increase disk-settling delay time in linuxrc, clarify text on some of |
| 00:02.48 | CIA-35 | the web gui pages, update the NOTES with the latest changes. |
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| 03:16.12 | ggilbert_ | Evening folks |
| 03:16.50 | schme` | mornin' |
| 03:17.08 | ggilbert_ | Mornin :) |
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| 07:34.23 | gremlin[it] | morning all |
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| 07:48.21 | gremlin[it] | hi all again |
| 07:49.36 | gremlin[it] | how i can force to use a specific version of gcc to build the kernel? there's a machine that already do it? |
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| 09:39.18 | bluelightning | ggilbert: were you doing some work on OE bugzilla earlier? if so, mail sending is borked in case you didn't know already |
| 09:39.30 | ggilbert_ | It's not exactly borked |
| 09:39.43 | ggilbert_ | It's more that postfix isn't even on :p |
| 09:39.45 | bluelightning | well I just got "There was an error sending mail from 'bugzilla-daemon' to 'roman.moravcik@gmail.com':error when closing pipe to /usr/lib/sendmail:" |
| 09:39.56 | bluelightning | ah, right, that would do it :) |
| 09:40.03 | bluelightning | np, just letting you know |
| 09:40.27 | ggilbert_ | I'm actually sitting here staring at main.cf trying to decide what I'm doing |
| 09:41.09 | ggilbert_ | on the brightside, I think diff viewing is now working in bugzilla |
| 09:41.38 | bluelightning | ggilbert_: seems to be, yeah |
| 09:41.43 | bluelightning | works pretty well actually |
| 09:47.07 | gremlin[it] | hi all, i need to compile the kernel with a specific version of gcc, how can i do it? there is a machine that already need this? |
| 10:07.33 | cyrilRomain | morning all |
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| 10:08.41 | RP | gremlin[it]: Look at mnci-ramses_2.4.21-rmk2-pxa1.bb |
| 10:09.02 | gremlin[it] | thank RP ! |
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| 12:26.53 | rwhitby | wow, this feud on angstrom-distro-devel is really getting out of hand ... |
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| 12:28.29 | CoreDump | I stopped following it after my last mail. Discussion with the two of them is like talking to a wall |
| 12:28.40 | RP | somehow I've managed to miss this... |
| 12:28.46 | RP | hi zecke |
| 12:29.13 | zecke | hey richard |
| 12:29.15 | zecke | RP: how are you? |
| 12:29.21 | CoreDump | I consider unsubscribing from angstrom-* |
| 12:30.06 | RP | zecke: ok thanks, you? |
| 12:30.48 | zecke | RP: I sit at the 24c3 so I'm fine :) |
| 12:31.01 | RP | CoreDump: Which thread are we talking about? |
| 12:31.25 | RP | zecke: sounds like fun :) |
| 12:31.29 | CoreDump | OE & Angstrom reputation (was: Bugzilla is not USENET) |
| 12:36.48 | RP | I can't decide if I want to read the context for this or not... |
| 12:37.14 | rwhitby | RP: it started at http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2007-December/001179.html, and continued in a new thread at http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2007-December/001264.html |
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| 12:45.47 | CoreDump | basically it is about a user comlaining about the reply he recieved after asking a valid question. Ends in the user getting himself banned due to him being an idiot (but his original point is value fwiw) |
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| 12:50.33 | rwhitby | with lots of christmas spirit in the posts between :-) |
| 12:51.22 | XorA|gone | well at least the flame war is on a mailing list not bugzilla, which was my original complaint |
| 12:52.22 | rwhitby | XorA|gone: got a URL to the bug? |
| 12:53.16 | XorA|gone | rwhitby: I honestly cant remeber it was sometime the day before I sent original email when a bug about international keyboards exploded into a discussion on who was forced out of angstrom by who |
| 12:54.29 | zecke | RP: what is mallum's email address? mallum@o-hand.com? |
| 12:56.54 | XorA|gone | rwhitby: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1908 |
| 12:57.52 | rwhitby | thx |
| 12:57.53 | XorA|gone | rwhitby: but there are a few others |
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| 14:09.08 | thesing | hi everybody |
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| 14:16.05 | Crofton|home | has anyone booted base-image on anything? |
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| 14:19.15 | mrdata | thesing: hi |
| 14:28.44 | Crofton|home | hmmm, looks like 450 usd to get a plane ticket for FOSDEM |
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| 14:37.17 | gremlin[it] | mhhh for me is around 200EUR ... |
| 14:38.00 | gremlin[it] | someone have hints about an hotel, such last year we was about all all in the same place |
| 14:38.48 | cyrilRomain | gremlin[it]: the Ibis Hotel is just in front of the Train station |
| 14:39.59 | Crofton|home | I suspect we will stay at the same place as last year |
| 14:41.01 | Crofton|home | astrid I think |
| 14:42.23 | gremlin[it] | yes wan't bad ... but i suspect this year the Astrid could be quite full... |
| 14:42.36 | Crofton|home | why? |
| 14:42.58 | gremlin[it] | wan't -> wasn't ... but this year the breakfat isn't included :( |
| 14:43.13 | gremlin[it] | i try to book and sometime it give me all full |
| 14:43.37 | gremlin[it] | via expedia ok, via direct hotel site all booked ... :( ... really don't know |
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| 14:58.16 | fun_in_oe | anyone around to help a newb? |
| 14:58.29 | zecke | just ask and see if you get a response |
| 14:59.45 | fun_in_oe | what's the best wy to determine/understand why packages are being skipped? |
| 15:00.49 | zecke | fun_in_oe: skipping in which sense? not created? not build? not installed in a image? |
| 15:01.38 | fun_in_oe | well when i run bitbake it tells me parsing finished, 4167 cached, 1 parsed, 197 skipped |
| 15:02.41 | zecke | fun_in_oe: ah, technical answer: When parsing these packages raise an SkipException |
| 15:02.47 | Crofton|home | gremlin[it], sounds like we need a native speaker to contact the hotel .. |
| 15:03.07 | zecke | fun_in_oe: why do they do it? Because some of these packages don't make sense for your TARGET_ARCH, MACHINE, DISTRO... |
| 15:03.18 | Shoragan | matchbox-applet-startup-monitor seems to have a broken .desktop file... |
| 15:03.36 | Shoragan | mb-applet-startup-monitor.desktop: error: value "Panel;Utility;MB;" for key "Categories" in group "Desktop Entry" contains an unregistered value "MB"; values extending the format should start with "X-" |
| 15:04.23 | fun_in_oe | okay so, maybe my direction is off, so these skipped files may not be the issue |
| 15:04.42 | fun_in_oe | in short, i'm trying to add bluetooth to the image |
| 15:04.50 | Shoragan | should i change it as suggested? |
| 15:05.31 | zecke | Shoragan: hey, where are you guys? |
| 15:05.34 | fun_in_oe | i've tried to insert via the old way by adding bluez-utils to local.conf |
| 15:06.31 | fun_in_oe | and dependancies don't look to be installed |
| 15:06.41 | Shoragan | zecke, nemo's lounge |
| 15:06.58 | zecke | Shoragan: do you have a free power socket over there? and a chair? |
| 15:07.39 | Shoragan | chair yes, power should be possible |
| 15:08.00 | zecke | fun_in_oe: which image is lacking bluez-utils? do you have bluetooth as machine feature? |
| 15:08.14 | zecke | okay, then I'm running, hopefully my battery will last |
| 15:08.57 | alphaone | good luck |
| 15:09.35 | fun_in_oe | where would i be defining it as a machine feature |
| 15:09.37 | fun_in_oe | ? |
| 15:11.23 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: what is your machine (MACHINE="yourmachine" in your local.conf) ? |
| 15:13.14 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: bluetooth is set as MACHINE_FEATURES for machine that has bluetooth (see in conf/machine/<the_machine>.conf) |
| 15:14.35 | fun_in_oe | off of the build directory? |
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| 15:14.42 | cyrilRomain | yes |
| 15:15.27 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: what is MACHINE set to in your build/conf/local.conf ? |
| 15:16.05 | fun_in_oe | well, here's the squirley part, in conf, i only have local.conf and some other auto conf files |
| 15:16.11 | fun_in_oe | no machine dir |
| 15:16.21 | cyrilRomain | by 'yes' I meant the machine configuration files are in org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine/ |
| 15:16.34 | fun_in_oe | oh |
| 15:16.49 | fun_in_oe | as well, there is no machine variable set in local.conf |
| 15:16.57 | gremlin[it] | Crofton|home, i think also an email to the Hotel could help |
| 15:17.50 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: hm in your build/conf/ directory, can you 'grep MACHINE *' ? |
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| 15:18.29 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: MACHINE should be set in one of your file in build/conf/ |
| 15:19.40 | fun_in_oe | i find it in auto.conf |
| 15:19.43 | fun_in_oe | sound right? |
| 15:21.39 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: why not, but to what is it set ? |
| 15:22.06 | fun_in_oe | tsi-gatewayexa |
| 15:22.37 | fun_in_oe | and there is no corresponding .conf under org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine/ |
| 15:22.51 | fun_in_oe | i'm completely stumped |
| 15:23.27 | fun_in_oe | i've been thrown into an unknown environment tasked with adding bluetooth to the image |
| 15:24.05 | fun_in_oe | after countless hours of reading, re-reading and attempting builds, i don't know where to look |
| 15:24.12 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: doh! |
| 15:24.24 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: do you know what image you are supposed to build ? |
| 15:24.42 | fun_in_oe | pretty much all i've been given is the bitbake recipe for the image |
| 15:25.37 | fun_in_oe | well, there's a .bb task created for the image, when i build it, bluetooth nor it's dependancies are rolled into it |
| 15:26.33 | Crofton|home | anyone seen a call for papers for the embedded room at FOSDEM? |
| 15:26.41 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: you may just need to add 'task-base-bluetooth bluez-utils' to the IMAGE_INSTALL of your .bb file |
| 15:26.58 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: but I'm afraid i'll not be able to help you much :-/ |
| 15:28.20 | fun_in_oe | something i said? |
| 15:28.32 | fun_in_oe | thanks btw! |
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| 15:29.39 | Crofton|home | fun_in_oe, more likely lack of time or expertise :) |
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| 15:36.38 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: no, more likely lack of time actually :) |
| 15:37.01 | fun_in_oe | okay so, adding those to the .bb produced errors |
| 15:37.26 | fun_in_oe | my oe environment is not current |
| 15:38.09 | fun_in_oe | the error is: Cannot satisfy the following dependancies kernel-module-bluetooth |
| 15:38.50 | fun_in_oe | so, how to add the bluetooth module? |
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| 15:42.26 | fun_in_oe | i've edited the defconfig file to read CONFIG_BT=y |
| 15:45.43 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: s/time/expertise/ even :( |
| 15:47.37 | fun_in_oe | um ... i'm having a very senior moment |
| 15:47.40 | fun_in_oe | that SHOULD BE CONFIG_BT=m |
| 15:47.43 | fun_in_oe | no? |
| 15:47.49 | fun_in_oe | srrry about caps |
| 15:50.06 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: whatever I think |
| 15:50.35 | fun_in_oe | no, that fails too |
| 15:51.01 | fun_in_oe | i'm having a tough time finding kernel-module-bluetooth under packages |
| 15:51.13 | fun_in_oe | maybe i'm looking in the wrong place? |
| 15:51.22 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: yes, we just have to understand why the dependency is not met |
| 15:51.36 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: no there is no kernel-module-bluetooth .bb file |
| 15:51.51 | fun_in_oe | ahhhh okay, so i'm less crazy than i thought |
| 15:51.53 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: because kernel module are handled differently |
| 15:52.53 | fun_in_oe | is there anywhere you can point me for more information on how they are handled? i've been hard pressed to find such info but, that's not to say i haven't missed it in my frustration |
| 15:57.40 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: with CONFIG_BT=y in the defconfig, and only bluez-utils (not kernel-module-bluetooth) does it fails too ? |
| 15:57.43 | cbrake_away | heh, cute. It sure looks like they used a N770 for the LCD in this device: http://netronome.com/web/guest/products/open_appliances |
| 16:00.11 | fun_in_oe | omg, i hope they know what they are getting themselves into with those 770s |
| 16:00.27 | fun_in_oe | i never had much luck w/them always flakey hardware issues |
| 16:06.28 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: well I think with CONFIG_BT=y in your defconfig, adding bluez-utils in the IMAGE_INSTALL of your image .bb is a good start |
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| 16:07.58 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: but I don't know the repercution of not having bluetooth in MACHINE_FEATURES, so probably you may try to add MACHINE_FEATURES += "bluetooth" in your local.conf |
| 16:09.20 | cyrilRomain | whois fun_in_oe |
| 16:09.28 | fun_in_oe | done and building now |
| 16:09.44 | fun_in_oe | thank you so much cyrilRomain ! |
| 16:10.17 | fun_in_oe | more than anything, i thank you to help me regain some sanity |
| 16:10.35 | fun_in_oe | being thrust into an environment w/o notes != fun |
| 16:10.57 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: I can understand that |
| 16:12.44 | fun_in_oe | still failing w/kernel-module-bluetooth dependancy |
| 16:13.09 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: without kernel-module-bluetooth in the IMAGE_INSTALL of your image .bb ? |
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| 16:15.24 | fun_in_oe | yeah, only thing under image_install is task-base-bluetooth (which probably calls kernel-module-bluetooth) and bluez-utils |
| 16:15.43 | cyrilRomain | :( |
| 16:16.16 | fun_in_oe | is it possible there was no module available for my kernel version? |
| 16:16.20 | fun_in_oe | 2.6.12? |
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| 16:17.44 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: nop, CONFIG_BT is already there in kernel 2.6.7 |
| 16:17.58 | fun_in_oe | riight |
| 16:18.32 | fun_in_oe | isn't there somewhere in the tree is ought to be able to manually build the kernel-module-bluetooth? |
| 16:19.28 | cyrilRomain | I think is is worth taking a look at kernel.bbclass and module.bbclass in org.openembedded.dev/classes/ directory |
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| 16:23.57 | Shoragan | how do i configure bitbake to include modules from a different kernel package in the image? |
| 16:26.43 | fun_in_oe | okay so, to clarify ... |
| 16:27.51 | fun_in_oe | so long as i have CONFIG_BT set to y or m in defconf, bitbake ought to automagically call/create the kernel-module-bluetooth ? |
| 16:28.19 | fun_in_oe | getting this module built is out of my hands? |
| 16:28.53 | fun_in_oe | what i'm trying to ascertain is whether this may just be a matter of updating the kernel/oe environment |
| 16:28.58 | Crofton|home | fun_in_oe, that is what I expect |
| 16:29.12 | Crofton|home | look in the work directory to see what modules where built |
| 16:29.55 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: hmm can you please pastebin your image's .bb ? Or if you don't want, take a look at the packages/images/mokogateway-image.bb |
| 16:30.32 | cyrilRomain | hope it help |
| 16:31.04 | fun_in_oe | where should i see them in the work dir? |
| 16:34.37 | Crofton|home | qork/machine name / linux I think |
| 16:34.46 | Crofton|home | where the kernel source gets unpacked and built |
| 16:39.10 | fun_in_oe | okay, i see a bunch of modules built |
| 16:41.01 | Crofton|home | so they should all have corresponding ipks, right? |
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| 16:45.11 | fun_in_oe | i would think so ... $find ./ -name kernel-module*.ipk |
| 16:45.12 | fun_in_oe | ? |
| 16:47.26 | Crofton|home | look in tmp/deploy..... |
| 16:47.37 | Crofton|home | there should be an ipk directory |
| 16:48.04 | cyrilRomain | ipks are in the tmp/deploy/<thelibcUsed>/ipk/ |
| 16:48.19 | fun_in_oe | yep |
| 16:48.24 | cyrilRomain | ipks are in the tmp/deploy/<thelibcUsed>/ipk/<yourMachine>/ even |
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| 16:48.53 | fun_in_oe | but so, now how to force an ipk build from modules? |
| 16:48.56 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: btw when you change the defconfig you have to 'bitbake -c rebuild theKernel' (I'm not sure bitbake takes defconfig changes into account after a kernel is already built) |
| 16:49.14 | Crofton|home | I am pretty sure it will pachake up all modules that come from kernel build |
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| 16:49.55 | fun_in_oe | when you say "theKernel" what do you mean? |
| 16:50.11 | Crofton|home | the name of the bb file |
| 16:50.14 | fun_in_oe | i've been doing $bitbake <image_name> -crebuild |
| 16:50.37 | jilles | that won't work |
| 16:50.39 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: no, just the kernel |
| 16:50.49 | fun_in_oe | ahhhhhh! ic |
| 16:50.52 | fun_in_oe | THANK YOU |
| 16:50.54 | jilles | -c rebuild only rebuilds the package name you give it |
| 16:51.18 | jilles | alternatively, you can increment PR in the bb file after changing defconfig |
| 16:51.33 | cyrilRomain | after the kernel build successfully, we can 'bitbake yourImage' again to generate again the rootfs |
| 16:52.01 | fun_in_oe | okay so, how to determine whatis "theKernel"? |
| 16:52.37 | cyrilRomain | jilles: exact, except that incrementing PR requires more space on disk :} |
| 16:53.09 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: in the tmp/work/<yourMachine>/ directory |
| 16:53.40 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: there is the kernel directory |
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| 16:54.30 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: probably linux-something or xanadux-something |
| 16:56.59 | fun_in_oe | okay, under work/<machine>/linux<distro>2.6.12 i have a defconfig file that does not have CONFIG_BT enabled |
| 16:58.13 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: then set CONFIG_BT=y to the right defconfig located in the packages/linux/linux<distro>2.6.12/ |
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| 17:07.56 | fun_in_oe | w00t! |
| 17:08.07 | fun_in_oe | looks lie the module built |
| 17:08.17 | cyrilRomain | ok |
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| 17:09.30 | cyrilRomain | you can check that by looking into the work/<yourMachine>/linux<distro>2.6.12/image/ |
| 17:10.16 | cyrilRomain | then 'bitbake <your_image>' |
| 17:10.27 | fun_in_oe | now i should be able to $bitbake <image> right? |
| 17:10.32 | cyrilRomain | right |
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| 17:10.57 | cyrilRomain | except I fear the dependency issue will be still there .. |
| 17:11.11 | fun_in_oe | ? |
| 17:11.47 | fun_in_oe | well, blueprobe was pulled/built |
| 17:12.35 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: yes, and bluez-utils will be correctly included in your image |
| 17:15.24 | fun_in_oe | okay, completed w/o errors (that i can see) |
| 17:15.35 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: the image built ? |
| 17:15.55 | fun_in_oe | looks like it |
| 17:15.59 | cyrilRomain | :) |
| 17:16.20 | fun_in_oe | any quick way to check to see what all is included in the image? |
| 17:16.39 | cyrilRomain | in tmp/rootfs directory |
| 17:16.41 | fun_in_oe | i think i had been $ar x ing the ipk |
| 17:18.03 | cyrilRomain | ipks can still be installed latter with ipkg (at the contition your image includes ipkg of course) |
| 17:18.24 | fun_in_oe | saaweet |
| 17:18.37 | fun_in_oe | bbiab, time to fetch and push the image |
| 17:18.46 | fun_in_oe | thanks SOOOO much cyril! |
| 17:18.53 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: you welcome |
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| 17:45.12 | CIA-35 | 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r35be16b6... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-openmoko-devel: add a recipe for the current patch queue |
| 17:45.40 | CIA-35 | 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r35be16b6... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-openmoko-devel: add a recipe for the current patch queue |
| 17:46.32 | CIA-35 | 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r35be16b6... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-openmoko-devel: add a recipe for the current patch queue |
| 17:48.07 | CIA-35 | 03jluebbe 07org.oe.dev * r35be16b6... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-openmoko-devel: add a recipe for the current patch queue |
| 18:03.25 | mwester | ~kick CIA-35 |
| 18:03.25 | ibot | ACTION kicks CIA-35 |
| 18:03.26 | CIA-35 | ow |
| 18:03.38 | mwester | That'll teach it to spam the channel. :P |
| 18:04.03 | cyrilRomain | :D |
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| 18:15.47 | hvontres|home | ~seen RP |
| 18:15.48 | ibot | rp is currently on #maemo #handhelds #oe #openmoko #openzaurus. Has said a total of 100 messages. Is idling for 5h 39m, last said: 'I can't decide if I want to read the context for this or not...'. |
| 18:25.15 | fun_in_oe | cool! looks as though bluetooth is in the kernel except, none of the bluetooth packages seem to have been installed |
| 18:25.47 | fun_in_oe | thanks again cyrilRomain ~ |
| 18:25.48 | fun_in_oe | ! |
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| 18:36.38 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: try adding task-base-bluetooth in your image .bb |
| 18:37.16 | fun_in_oe | unbelievable, now there's no eth0 interface whereas before there was |
| 18:37.51 | cyrilRomain | :( |
| 18:38.12 | fun_in_oe | i thought the WHOLE point behind using bitbake was to streamline building |
| 18:38.18 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: can you pastebin your image .bb file please ? |
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| 18:38.38 | fun_in_oe | seems as though whoever set up this env had NO clue about bitabake/oe |
| 18:38.44 | fun_in_oe | (not that i have much more) |
| 18:38.58 | Crofton|home | fun_in_oe, what build env are you talking about? |
| 18:39.13 | fun_in_oe | the one i've been forced to use |
| 18:39.22 | Crofton|home | OE? |
| 18:39.48 | fun_in_oe | well, oe as layed out by someone |
| 18:39.55 | Crofton|home | :) |
| 18:40.06 | Crofton|home | if you find something better, let us know |
| 18:40.13 | fun_in_oe | not knocking OE |
| 18:40.27 | Crofton|home | but I think if you invest some time now, you will be reqrded ... |
| 18:40.53 | Crofton|home | good, that is what I wanted to clarify, it is easy to misunderstand people in irc |
| 18:40.56 | fun_in_oe | knocking the implementation of it by someone else who didn't take ANY notes |
| 18:41.13 | Crofton|home | especially given not everyone here is a native english speaker |
| 18:41.45 | fun_in_oe | how in the hell does an ether interface go away after adding bluetooth to tthe kernel?!?! |
| 18:42.03 | fun_in_oe | cyrilRomain: i'd love to but, it's on another machine |
| 18:42.50 | fun_in_oe | back to square one ... now to figure out how to add ethernet back |
| 18:42.51 | Crofton|home | fun_in_oe, any strange boot messages? |
| 18:43.28 | Crofton|home | sadly, OE does not do everything for us :) |
| 18:43.43 | dcordes_ | that's a downer :( |
| 18:44.01 | fun_in_oe | no but, i CAN do some of the stuff i'm getting hung up on |
| 18:44.10 | fun_in_oe | provided someone configs it right |
| 18:44.26 | fun_in_oe | if i'm not mistaken |
| 18:44.53 | Crofton|home | yeah, it is just a matter of figuring out why the interface disappeared |
| 18:45.36 | fun_in_oe | there is a complaint upon boot |
| 18:46.26 | RP | hvontres|home: hi |
| 18:49.07 | fun_in_oe | Configuring network interfaces ... cat: /etc/tsi//eth*mac: No such file or directory |
| 18:49.32 | cyrilRomain | fun_in_oe: hmm except the CONFIG_BT=y changes, you only added 'bluez-utils' to the existing IMAGE_INSTALL right ? |
| 18:50.03 | fun_in_oe | yep, just what we covered here |
| 18:50.14 | fun_in_oe | which is what is SO frustrating |
| 18:50.58 | fun_in_oe | the only reason i can think of that the eth0 int would go away is so weirdness in the env |
| 18:51.53 | Crofton|home | fun_in_oe, what device are you working with? |
| 18:52.06 | fun_in_oe | tsi-gatewayexa |
| 18:52.56 | fun_in_oe | un<blank>believable!!!! |
| 18:53.04 | Crofton|home | what is that? |
| 18:54.26 | fun_in_oe | yeah, those pages are of no help |
| 18:54.31 | fun_in_oe | thanks though! |
| 18:54.31 | Crofton|home | yep :) |
| 18:55.56 | fun_in_oe | okay, i'm calling it quits for the year |
| 18:56.08 | Crofton|home | talk to us next year :) |
| 18:56.12 | Crofton|home | Happy New Year! |
| 18:56.17 | fun_in_oe | this project i got put on is such bullshit and i think i'm going to let the client know it |
| 18:56.30 | Crofton|home | Where are you? |
| 18:56.53 | fun_in_oe | geo? US |
| 18:56.57 | Crofton|home | same here |
| 18:57.01 | Crofton|home | Blacksburg, VA |
| 18:57.26 | fun_in_oe | k, thanks again everyone!!! |
| 18:57.29 | fun_in_oe | be well! |
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| 18:59.55 | flo_lap | hi all |
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| 19:28.18 | likewise | Crofton|home: you are the gumstix maintainer? |
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| 19:33.49 | Crofton|home | sort off :) |
| 19:34.11 | Crofton|home | gumstix is working on moving to OE and they have some stuff in svn also |
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| 19:34.43 | Crofton|home | I'm behind moving stuff from that into .dev due tio last months defense and remodeling efforts |
| 19:34.53 | Crofton|home | er this motnhs defense :) |
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| 19:45.02 | Crofton|home | http://jwboyer.livejournal.com/19484.html |
| 19:51.12 | likewise | Crofton|home: ok, just wanted to say I modified the 2.6.23 kernel recipe lately, gumstix is one of the users I am aware of. |
| 19:55.46 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 19:56.11 | Crofton|home | sakoman, works of a copy of .dev |
| 19:56.20 | Crofton|home | and has his own kernel recipe |
| 19:56.39 | Crofton|home | He plans to update his copy of .dev to teh angstrom stable branch at some point |
| 20:00.29 | hvontres|home | RP: hello... I was AFK at the home center :) |
| 20:09.18 | ant|away | hi |
| 20:10.01 | ant|away | what is the expected behaviour by fetch error e.g. SRC_URI down ? |
| 20:10.20 | ant|away | I'm stumbling in Fetch failed: http://www.zlib.net/zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 |
| 20:10.36 | ant|away | and I provided the sources in my source dir |
| 20:11.05 | ant|away | should I create myself the md5? |
| 20:11.47 | ant|away | I thought if the sourcefile exists the md5sum must be calculated over there and not on the SRC_URI |
| 20:12.44 | mwester | ant|away: If you provided the sources yourself, you must also provide the MD5. And yes, if you create the md5sum yourself it does rather defeat the purpose. |
| 20:12.58 | ant_ | ok, let see |
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| 20:18.22 | ant_ | oops NOTE: The MD5Sums did not match. Wanted: 'dee233bf288ee795ac96a98cc2e369b6' and Got: '733e25769de02aacaf84b4e230db21c7' |
| 20:19.23 | mwester | uh-oh. You've been trojaned! |
| 20:19.40 | mwester | :p |
| 20:20.15 | ant_ | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/libpng/zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 |
| 20:21.22 | CoreDump | +mhentges@mhcln04:~/tmp >md5sum zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 |
| 20:21.22 | CoreDump | dee233bf288ee795ac96a98cc2e369b6 zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 |
| 20:21.53 | CoreDump | damaged d/l on your end |
| 20:22.03 | mwester | dee233bf288ee795ac96a98cc2e369b6 is correct on my copies. |
| 20:22.36 | cyrilRomain | dee233bf288ee795ac96a98cc2e369b6 here too |
| 20:22.41 | ant_ | [arklinux@localhost sources]$ md5sum zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 |
| 20:22.46 | rwhitby | Crofton: I've booted base-image on at least three different ixp4xx OE devices |
| 20:22.49 | ant_ | 733e25769de02aacaf84b4e230db21c7 zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 |
| 20:23.04 | ant_ | I search another source... |
| 20:23.14 | mwester | delete zlib-1.2.3.tar.* from your downloads directory, and rerun the fetch. |
| 20:23.31 | ant_ | http://www.zlib.net/zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2' failed |
| 20:23.44 | mwester | It redirected me... |
| 20:23.55 | mwester | http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/libpng/zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 |
| 20:24.20 | mwester | dee233bf288ee795ac96a98cc2e369b6 zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 <==== md5sum is correct from that source. |
| 20:25.09 | ant_ | it failed three times...no redirection |
| 20:25.27 | ant_ | doing now 4th try |
| 20:25.48 | ant_ | ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting |
| 20:26.12 | ant_ | Resolving www.zlib.net... 0.0.0.0 |
| 20:26.21 | ant_ | Connecting to www.zlib.net|0.0.0.0|:80... failed: Connection refused. |
| 20:26.32 | cyrilRomain | ant_: wget it from mwester source :) |
| 20:26.52 | ant_ | yes, I know, but this bug should have been already resolved |
| 20:27.02 | ant_ | or I think so... |
| 20:27.20 | ant_ | adding new mirrors |
| 20:28.54 | cyrilRomain | ant_: but there is a certain number of retry before falling back to another mirror |
| 20:29.04 | cyrilRomain | maybe it is 5 (?) |
| 20:29.54 | Crofton|home | rwhitby, what is in their fstab? |
| 20:30.54 | Crofton|home | I wondering what exactly is making busybox mount choke |
| 20:31.12 | rwhitby | the Angstrom ones just use the default fstab |
| 20:32.46 | Crofton|home | nothing jumps out at me comparing them |
| 20:32.47 | rwhitby | yep. unchanged from the default. |
| 20:32.59 | rwhitby | (just looked on the real device) |
| 20:33.04 | Crofton|home | bother :) |
| 20:33.43 | Crofton|home | oh well, back to house wiring ... |
| 20:34.06 | cyrilRomain | ant_: yes, in bitbake.conf you can see 'wget -t 5', so it tries 5 times |
| 20:35.29 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: no, the build breaked 4 times... |
| 20:35.39 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: here |
| 20:36.08 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: and I'm connected with the same host, so DNS is ok |
| 20:36.17 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: here |
| 20:38.43 | ant_ | ... |
| 20:39.01 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: don't ever update your working Gentoo... |
| 20:40.01 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: no way to have qemu compiled |
| 20:40.31 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: I have one last try: I saw in your conf ccache disabled |
| 20:40.48 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: FWIW |
| 20:41.23 | cyrilRomain | ant_: disabling ccache will not solve the problem |
| 20:41.40 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: I guessed that! |
| 20:42.08 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: probably linux-headers 2.6.23 |
| 20:42.32 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: you use .22 isn't ? |
| 20:43.04 | cyrilRomain | ant_: kernel ? headers ? |
| 20:43.25 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: both |
| 20:43.37 | cyrilRomain | ant_: yes 2.6.22-r2 |
| 20:44.28 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: but vapier @Gentoo admitted the problem and masked older gcc3 |
| 20:44.41 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: so must be distro-specific |
| 20:44.47 | cyrilRomain | :( |
| 20:45.46 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: you know how long it'd take to recompile ALL with old headers... |
| 20:45.49 | cyrilRomain | ant_: does then vapier gave you an advice to build qemu ? |
| 20:46.01 | ant_ | cyrilomain: ...so I installed ArkLinux in another part |
| 20:46.17 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: not to me, but read here: |
| 20:47.07 | ant_ | http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-devel/gcc |
| 20:47.33 | ant_ | from today ;-) |
| 20:48.05 | cyrilRomain | your arch is hppa ? |
| 20:48.22 | ant_ | no, x86 |
| 20:48.31 | ant_ | Core2 Duo |
| 20:48.36 | ant_ | 32 bit |
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| 20:51.36 | cyrilRomain | ant_: so gcc-3.3.6-r1 is available again |
| 20:51.44 | likewise | OE_REVISION = "...54cafe77..." - and having coffee |
| 20:51.57 | ant_ | cyrilRomain http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/sys-devel/gcc/ChangeLog?view=markup |
| 20:52.29 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: BTW I failed with a binary gcc-3.3.6 |
| 20:52.49 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: so my hope are not so... |
| 20:53.36 | cyrilRomain | ant_: :-/ |
| 20:54.36 | cyrilRomain | ant_: and no much luck with ArkLinux ? |
| 20:54.41 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: what really disturbs me is that the gcc-3.3.5-ark is ok |
| 20:54.51 | ant_ | -( |
| 20:55.25 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: ArkLinux is very very quick to install for OE development |
| 20:55.45 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: I'm finishing an updated how-to |
| 20:55.54 | cyrilRomain | ArchLinux too =) |
| 20:56.11 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: never tested :-) |
| 20:57.02 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: bero, the father of ArkLinux was/is an OE developer I think |
| 20:57.30 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: or at least friend of the cousin of Koen..;-))) |
| 20:57.39 | cyrilRomain | :) |
| 20:58.04 | cyrilRomain | shame it did'nt build ArkLinux with OE then ;-p |
| 20:58.09 | cyrilRomain | s/it/he/ |
| 20:58.54 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: NOTE: package qemu-native-0.9.0+cvs20070613: completed |
| 20:59.01 | ant_ | cyrilRomain:- ))) |
| 20:59.49 | cyrilRomain | ant_: I think he is/was not a real OE dev, otherwise he would never choose rpm for packages ;-p |
| 21:00.06 | cyrilRomain | ant_: cool, so you have qemu thanks to OE :) |
| 21:00.09 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: there is synaptic also |
| 21:00.55 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: oops Kinaptic (KDE) |
| 21:01.04 | cyrilRomain | don't know |
| 21:01.19 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: it's the apt-get stuff |
| 21:01.39 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: emerge was the first love, you 'll never forget it ! |
| 21:01.42 | cyrilRomain | a new one ? |
| 21:03.07 | cyrilRomain | ant_: I still love emerge and bitbake |
| 21:03.25 | ant_ | cyrilRoman: emerge vs. apt : 1-0 |
| 21:03.33 | cyrilRomain | ant_: but I'm looking for a more robust package management |
| 21:03.59 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: more robust than what? |
| 21:04.05 | cyrilRomain | ant_: because they are all based on a destructive upgrade model |
| 21:04.26 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: ah, I see, you need feeds |
| 21:04.34 | cyrilRomain | ant_: something that does not break your distro and does not hurt brain ) |
| 21:04.37 | cyrilRomain | ;) |
| 21:05.06 | cyrilRomain | with emerge, upgrade are not atomic, i.e. your system can be temporary in a broken state |
| 21:05.25 | cyrilRomain | and sometimes not only temporary :-( |
| 21:05.29 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: I never had problems with Gentoo (in 6 years) |
| 21:05.51 | cyrilRomain | ant_: I update my system constantly and never had *big* problem |
| 21:05.52 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: upgraded from gcc-2.95 to 4.x |
| 21:05.59 | ant_ | cyrilRomain |
| 21:06.11 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: during the years |
| 21:06.23 | cyrilRomain | but sometimes I need to revdeprebuild, e.g. mplayer is broken until the revdeprebuild finish |
| 21:06.27 | ant_ | cyrilRomain soon comed the bomb: the new baselayout 2 |
| 21:06.32 | cyrilRomain | and this is not acceptable for a prodution system |
| 21:06.42 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: hardened ? |
| 21:06.47 | cyrilRomain | ant_: no |
| 21:07.10 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: you can choose a very old and stable profile |
| 21:07.51 | cyrilRomain | ant_: I prefer to have up-to-date version of software |
| 21:08.08 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: he he |
| 21:08.34 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: if we talk about postfix, samba, php, apache, YES |
| 21:08.40 | cyrilRomain | ant_: but with a better package managment, one could have up-to-date system without (even temporary) breakage |
| 21:09.32 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: there are nice scripts for partial rebuild |
| 21:09.54 | cyrilRomain | ant_: 'partial rebuild' ? |
| 21:10.18 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: yes, avoiding emerge -e system |
| 21:10.30 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: 2 times |
| 21:10.38 | cyrilRomain | ant_: you speak about emwrap.sh for example ? |
| 21:10.50 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: yes |
| 21:11.10 | ant_ | cyrilomain: and don't miss udept |
| 21:11.25 | cyrilRomain | ant_: yes it is honestly a good attempt to make thing better, but still not the solution |
| 21:11.50 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: I think Gentoo is the state-of-the-art |
| 21:12.09 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: didn't find any better |
| 21:12.11 | cyrilRomain | ant_: I think just a part of it :) |
| 21:12.33 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: we speak for the PRESENT |
| 21:12.37 | cyrilRomain | ant_: I mean as for package managment system |
| 21:13.52 | cyrilRomain | ant_: ant_ for the present, there is http://nix.cs.uu.nl/nixos/ which is IMO _one_ damn good attempt to fix all the present package managemnt system |
| 21:14.01 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: we are going OT... somebody will *curse us |
| 21:14.33 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: interesting BTW |
| 21:14.45 | cyrilRomain | ant_: you right |
| 21:15.14 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: he he |
| 21:16.10 | ant_ | cyrilomain: the topic is TABOO :-) |
| 21:17.09 | cyrilRomain | well, back to code :) |
| 21:17.27 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: was a pleasure, see you |
| 21:43.22 | likewise | cyrilRomain: no, just wait for Linux to have union mounts, and base the package system on that. Like QNX does. |
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| 22:40.17 | cyrilRomain | ~lart C for its inherent lack of correctness |
| 22:40.17 | ibot | beats C severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken for its inherent lack of correctness |
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| 23:05.14 | ant|away | cyrilRomain: ;-) |
| 23:05.28 | ant|away | cyrilRomain: NOTE: preparing tree for binary locale generation |
| 23:05.41 | ant|away | cyrilRomain: qemu works ! |
| 23:07.43 | ant_ | * qemu galore: ant is now generating ALL locales |
| 23:07.44 | cyrilRomain | ant_: ah glad to read that :) |
| 23:08.41 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: once finished 'll switch again to Gentoo and retry qemu with the patched gcc-3.3.6 |
| 23:09.48 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: released today (the binaries I installed were older !) |
| 23:10.15 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: cross the finger.. |
| 23:10.37 | ant_ | cyrilRomain: I'll let you know (tomorrow...) |
| 23:10.48 | ant_ | cheers - bonne nuit |
| 23:10.57 | cyrilRomain | ant_: thx, bonne nuit :) |
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