| 00:03.42 | ant | RP: Hi |
| 00:04.20 | ant | RP: hit today http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3010 |
| 00:08.16 | ant | RP: do we need shared-mime-info and desktop-file-utils on host? |
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| 00:12.31 | ant | RP: installed shared-mime-info and now bluez-gnome installs ok! |
| 00:12.55 | ant | RP: but smthg wrong NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: |
| 00:13.06 | ant | RP: NOTE: /usr/share/mime/globs |
| 00:13.18 | ant | RP: NOTE: /usr/share/mime/magic |
| 00:13.28 | ant | RP: etc etc |
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| 00:30.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3445 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by philippedeswert(AT)scarlet.be |
| 00:30.07 | cdbot2 | * * gpe-mini-browser-0.2 QA issues |
| 00:30.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3445 |
| 00:50.10 | hvontres|work | Khem: So how far away are you from being able to build an eglibc-console image in Angstrom? |
| 00:58.31 | Khem | hvontres|work: I am able to run console-image for angstrom 2007 and 2008 on omap boards |
| 00:58.45 | Khem | hvontres|work: for couple of months now |
| 00:58.52 | Khem | I am trying on x11-image now |
| 01:06.01 | hvontres|work | Khem: way cool :) |
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| 01:29.25 | Khem | hvontres|work: There is some more work that will make it a real gain |
| 01:29.58 | Khem | hvontres|work: in eglibc you can generate locales in cross env |
| 01:30.08 | Khem | so no need of qemu'ing |
| 01:30.43 | Khem | then I would like to use the config options thats new in eglibc so we can chose features |
| 01:33.36 | tmbinc_ | i'm targeting a mipsel machine - can anybody suggest me a good binutils/gcc/glibc combination? So far we have used glibc-2.3.5+cvs20051107, gcc-4.1.1, binutils-2.16.1 |
| 01:34.27 | Khem | tmbinc_: any reason you are using glibc 2.3.5 |
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| 01:38.51 | tmbinc_ | no, it was the only working version back then in 2005 |
| 01:39.08 | tmbinc_ | there are some scary nptl patches applied which i like to get rid of |
| 01:39.29 | Khem | tmbinc_: I think 2.6.1 would be good option |
| 01:39.39 | Khem | tmbinc_: you can also dare 2.7 |
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| 01:39.55 | Khem | tmbinc_: you will need to update binutils too |
| 01:40.07 | Khem | 2.18 would be good I think |
| 01:41.03 | Khem | tmbinc_: I have successfully used gcc 4.2.1 glibc 2.6.1 binutils-2.18 combo on mips/mips64 machines |
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| 01:51.44 | tmbinc_ | Khem: inside OE? |
| 01:57.03 | Khem | tmbinc_: not OE |
| 01:57.18 | Khem | tmbinc_: on OE I have not tried mips at all |
| 01:57.46 | Khem | but I think it should just work. If not let us know |
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| 02:06.05 | flo_lap | re |
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| 02:46.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3460 has been created by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com |
| 02:46.07 | cdbot2 | * * x11-image does not build with ANGSTROM_MODE=eglibc |
| 02:46.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3460 |
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| 02:59.44 | CIA-3 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r320cd49f... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:59.44 | CIA-3 | matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod svn: Apply multiple-layouts patches. |
| 02:59.45 | CIA-3 | * Just the same as matchbox-keyboard. |
| 02:59.45 | CIA-3 | * Actually, this is adhox workaround for non-determinism in image building |
| 02:59.45 | CIA-3 | (when ipkg, having matchbox-keyboard and matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod, both |
| 02:59.45 | CIA-3 | Provide'ing each other, selects some non-deterministically). |
| 02:59.52 | CIA-3 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rfffc11db... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:59.52 | CIA-3 | angstrom-2007.1.conf: Use bluez 3.23. |
| 02:59.53 | CIA-3 | * Fixes #3458, timeout while getting bluetooth device names. |
| 02:59.57 | CIA-3 | 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r80514cdf... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:59.57 | CIA-3 | gpe-mini-browser: fix QA issue with desktop file |
| 02:59.59 | CIA-3 | * added patch to fix up desktop file |
| 03:00.01 | CIA-3 | * bumped PR |
| 03:00.03 | CIA-3 | * Fixes bug #3445 |
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| 06:19.17 | CM | Argh.. http://rafb.net/p/7mfQRG70.html |
| 06:19.53 | CM | ~blame pfalcon for breaking matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod in openmoko |
| 06:19.54 | ibot | ACTION blames mwester-laptop and perhaps pfalcon for breaking matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod in openmoko and the end of life as we know it |
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| 06:59.10 | CIA-3 | 03john_lee 07org.oe.dev * rc6ccdf57... 10/ (1 classes/sourcepkg.bbclass): |
| 06:59.10 | CIA-3 | fix typo to make sourcepkg.bbclass work when inherited. |
| 06:59.10 | CIA-3 | sourcepkg.bbclass:109:addtask dumpdata after archive_bb before do_create_diff_gz |
| 06:59.10 | CIA-3 | archive_bb should be "do_archive_bb". |
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| 07:29.59 | mickeyl | good morning |
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| 07:31.26 | flo_lap | hey mickeyl |
| 07:34.40 | mickeyl | morning |
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| 07:34.57 | mickeyl | i managed to get some sane wake up time again |
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| 07:35.26 | flo_lap | mickeyl: get some children and that's fixed for ever ;) |
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| 07:39.37 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 07:39.38 | mickeyl | i can imagine |
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| 07:58.41 | CIA-3 | 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r5006f70b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): |
| 07:58.41 | CIA-3 | angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc: prefer octave 2.1.73 (stable). |
| 07:58.41 | CIA-3 | * the old 2.9.14 never built |
| 07:58.41 | CIA-3 | * the new 2.9.x is still in testing |
| 07:58.48 | CIA-3 | 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * rc1c864a1... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): octave: bump 2.9.19, fix -dbg += bug#2317 |
| 07:58.53 | CIA-3 | 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r16b35033... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): zroadmap: move zroadmap recipies to packages/roadmap for merging |
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| 08:30.28 | koen | 'morning all |
| 08:31.56 | mickeyl | morning |
| 08:31.58 | mickeyl | you're late |
| 08:32.01 | mickeyl | :D |
| 08:38.37 | koen | yeah |
| 08:38.48 | koen | slept like 11 hours |
| 08:39.43 | koen | mickeyl: what are your thought on a moko-minimal-image that only has dialer and today? |
| 08:41.51 | mickeyl | sure thing |
| 08:41.53 | mickeyl | sounds good |
| 08:42.23 | flo_lap | yes yes... more images! |
| 08:42.27 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 08:43.08 | flo_lap | I just bought a GSM eval kit - looks like its time to add support for it to gsmd :) |
| 08:45.02 | mickeyl | cool |
| 08:46.47 | flo_lap | yeah... I only need some free time. But it should be really easy... the documentation is great. |
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| 08:55.11 | Genesis | bonjour |
| 08:57.31 | koen | mickeyl: in order to cut buildtime for moko-minimal-image: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/moko-task-splitup.diff.txt |
| 08:57.42 | koen | ehm |
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| 09:02.28 | mickeyl | koen: feel free to commit that (minus your huge bug) ;) |
| 09:02.50 | koen | the huge bug is that the new files aren't *.bb files :) |
| 09:02.55 | mickeyl | ah, heh |
| 09:03.19 | koen | I did touch <paste entries from PACKAGES> |
| 09:03.28 | koen | and then 'open *moko*' |
| 09:03.31 | mickeyl | hehe |
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| 09:18.20 | koen | mickeyl: split committed |
| 09:20.12 | mickeyl | thanks! |
| 09:21.56 | koen | mickeyl: btw, the distro specific patches to mb-kb-im don't apply anymore |
| 09:22.21 | mickeyl | oh that's unfortunate |
| 09:22.32 | mickeyl | then we need to setback the date |
| 09:22.41 | mickeyl | the creators no longer work on that |
| 09:22.47 | mickeyl | have been moved to other teams |
| 09:24.01 | koen | is that patch still needed? |
| 09:24.08 | koen | and why was it distro specific? |
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| 09:25.28 | mickeyl | somehow recent matchbox keyboard miscalulated the necessary font size |
| 09:25.37 | mickeyl | the patch really is just |
| 09:25.39 | mickeyl | - kb->font_pt_size = 5; |
| 09:25.39 | mickeyl | + kb->font_pt_size = 3; |
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| 09:25.56 | mickeyl | so should be possible to adjust easily |
| 09:26.02 | flo_lap | hi lrg |
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| 09:26.35 | ant|work | good morning |
| 09:26.38 | mickeyl | yo lrg |
| 09:26.39 | mickeyl | hi ant |
| 09:26.50 | lrg | hey flo_lap, mickeyl, ant |
| 09:27.49 | koen | mickeyl: don't paul's patches fix that? |
| 09:28.07 | mickeyl | what are paul's patches? |
| 09:28.08 | ant|work | CoreDump: ping |
| 09:28.22 | CoreDump | pong |
| 09:28.25 | koen | 2-Add-new-modifier--layout--Used-to-cycle-thru-all-available-layouts.patch |
| 09:28.25 | koen | 3-Changes-to-improve-layout-rendering--especially-after-adding-support-for.patch |
| 09:28.25 | koen | 4-Add-rendering-debug-logging.patch |
| 09:28.26 | koen | 5-Add-support-for-loading-multiple-independent-layouts.patch |
| 09:28.26 | koen | 6-Add-layout-switch-key-to-all-layouts.patch |
| 09:28.33 | mickeyl | oh all these |
| 09:28.41 | ant|work | CoreDump: referring http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3459 |
| 09:28.55 | mickeyl | i don't know whether they fix it, i just know that the fic-gta01 patch was necessary to get the keyboard fit |
| 09:28.59 | ant|work | CoreDump: I mean at the very first boot |
| 09:29.08 | mickeyl | otherwise the keys were much too large |
| 09:29.19 | ant|work | CoreDump: you cannot insert the altbot pwd |
| 09:29.37 | CoreDump | ahh, the password |
| 09:29.47 | ant|work | CoreDump: so you're stuck |
| 09:30.04 | CoreDump | does the keyboard work in the other image in the VT? |
| 09:30.32 | ant|work | CoreDump: yes in console mage |
| 09:30.55 | ant|work | CoreDump: my keyboard here is a disaster... |
| 09:32.27 | ant|work | CoreDump: I cannot check right now but don't remember errlogs |
| 09:32.42 | CoreDump | I'll have a look |
| 09:32.46 | ant|work | CoreDump: only one mismatch with some TTY |
| 09:32.55 | ant|work | CoreDump: ... |
| 09:34.00 | ant|work | CoreDump: ahh, was complaining about missing blueprobe. Has been removed ? |
| 09:34.19 | CoreDump | no clue |
| 09:34.47 | ant|work | CoreDump: I'll check tonight. |
| 09:35.33 | ant|work | CoreDump: now I'm stuck with "Preiserhoeungen wird nicht akzeptiert" |
| 09:35.43 | ant|work | CoreDump: bigger problem than OE !:-) |
| 09:36.17 | CoreDump | =) |
| 09:37.31 | ant|work | have to move, bbl |
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| 10:02.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3461 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder> |
| 10:02.06 | cdbot2 | * * gcc-cross-4.1.2-r13-do_compile |
| 10:02.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3461 |
| 10:03.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3461 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by <koen> |
| 10:03.07 | cdbot2 | * * gcc-cross-4.1.2-r13-do_compile |
| 10:03.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3461 |
| 10:04.24 | CoreDump | jesus, koen is closing the bugs faster than the poor autobuilder can open them |
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| 10:09.49 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 10:10.01 | mickeyl | i think the oe autobuilder should improve the fetcher checks |
| 10:10.12 | mickeyl | e.g. sf.net cvs |
| 10:10.17 | mickeyl | is often overloaded |
| 10:10.21 | mickeyl | so it returns an error |
| 10:10.26 | mickeyl | but once you try again, it works |
| 10:10.38 | mickeyl | i don't fancy dozens of false positive bug reports |
| 10:11.02 | mickeyl | well, perhaps bitbake should be improved |
| 10:11.05 | mickeyl | trying to fetch more than once |
| 10:11.09 | mickeyl | i'll think about that |
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| 10:26.50 | koen | a fetch error is a fetch error |
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| 10:30.14 | mickeyl | not on some sites |
| 10:30.41 | mickeyl | perhaps cvs.sf.net returns something that says try again? |
| 10:30.47 | koen | if the build halts, it's an error |
| 10:30.47 | mickeyl | then we should honor this |
| 10:30.54 | mickeyl | this is simple thinking |
| 10:30.59 | mickeyl | and it will clutter our bug tracker |
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| 10:31.05 | mickeyl | i would rather have more high level bugs |
| 10:31.09 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 10:31.32 | koen | wanna explain that to users that have a 'failed' build? |
| 10:31.41 | vlo | hey everyone |
| 10:31.42 | XorA|gone | angstrom 2007 builds can halt on fetch error as it means the source archives arent updated :-) |
| 10:31.44 | mickeyl | they would not if we fix bitbake |
| 10:31.55 | koen | "Yes, your build failed, but it's not an error" |
| 10:32.10 | XorA|gone | or we forgot to lock down something for release |
| 10:32.36 | koen | XorA|gone: or someone replaces recipes which renders the lockdown useless |
| 10:33.08 | koen | and the autobuilder updates the source archives :) |
| 10:33.14 | koen | so if the fetch fails... |
| 10:35.04 | otavio | Could someone give me a hint about kdrive? I'm using it, it works mostly but I'm having trouble with keyboard. The symbols are completely crazy. |
| 10:35.14 | otavio | I'm using kdrive 1.3 |
| 10:36.09 | vlo | I have read this very interesting post: http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/12/07/armv6-booted-in-qemu/ ... does it mean that I can soon change ASSUME_PROVIDED += "qemu_native" for my armv6 processor ? |
| 10:36.58 | koen | vlo: once hrw|gone fixes qemu and it gets enabled in OE |
| 10:37.19 | koen | for running qemu in systemmode we also need th nptl patches |
| 10:37.28 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re27d6ace... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom 2007 preferred versions: fixes the autobuilder needed to get things building |
| 10:37.35 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcdb61d34... 10/ (1 packages/images/minimal-openmoko-image.bb): minimal-openmoko-image: image with only dialer + terminal |
| 10:37.45 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r69b3efcf... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb): task-openmoko: fix typo |
| 10:39.42 | vlo | koen: hum OK ... thanks |
| 10:41.40 | vlo | maybe am I mixing things, but is it correct that this qemu thing is also related to the GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES value, and the fact that if I set this variable, my build fails ? |
| 10:42.18 | vlo | because I would like to avoid building all these locals |
| 10:42.19 | koen | angstrom disables that for armv6 cpus |
| 10:43.53 | vlo | what do you mean by "that" ? |
| 10:45.07 | koen | the locale generation thing |
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| 10:47.59 | koen | 3.6M Angstrom-minimalist-image-glibc-ipk-2007.9-test-20071212-a780.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 10:47.59 | koen | 7.3M Angstrom-console-image-glibc-ipk-2007.9-test-20071212-a780.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 10:47.59 | koen | 11M Angstrom-minimalist-gpe-image-glibc-ipk-2007.9-test-20071212-a780.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 10:47.59 | koen | 19M Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.9-test-20071212-a780.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 10:48.00 | koen | 21M Angstrom-minimal-openmoko-image-glibc-ipk-2007.9-test-20071212-a780.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 10:48.00 | koen | 33M Angstrom-openmoko-image-glibc-ipk-2007.9-test-20071212-a780.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 10:49.50 | koen | an order of magnitude difference :) |
| 10:50.06 | koen | (note that a780 puts the kernel in /boot, so that's 1.4MB) |
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| 10:55.06 | otavio | koen: do you have any idea why I could be having problems with keyboard? |
| 10:55.19 | koen | nope, sorry |
| 10:55.41 | otavio | koen: do you have any image working with regular keyboards? |
| 10:56.02 | otavio | koen: if yes, does delete, page/up and like works? |
| 10:57.35 | koen | the efika images work with a regular keyboard |
| 10:57.46 | otavio | efika ones? |
| 10:57.57 | otavio | have you tried it with an usb one? |
| 10:59.13 | otavio | I've installed console-tools and used showkeys and it doesn't look to be a kernel issue since it does send the right symbols |
| 10:59.40 | otavio | So I've installed xev and checked that it is, really, sending wrong ones, while on X |
| 11:00.02 | koen | efika only has usb plug |
| 11:00.47 | koen | mickeyl: 12MB saved when using the minimal openmoko-image |
| 11:01.55 | otavio | koen: good |
| 11:02.22 | koen | otavio: is your xmodmap global or local to the keyboard? |
| 11:02.42 | otavio | koen: how I can check it? |
| 11:02.49 | koen | dunno |
| 11:02.53 | koen | never really used xmodmap |
| 11:03.03 | koen | pH5 is the keyboard guru here |
| 11:03.10 | otavio | koen: I've built a xkeyboard-config .bb recipe and it does load the keyboard layout |
| 11:03.23 | flo_lap | bbl |
| 11:03.28 | CM | koen: Does the minimal image include libicu? |
| 11:03.37 | otavio | koen: if I query the X using setxkeymap it gives the right anwsers |
| 11:04.33 | otavio | koen: i'll wait him and see if he can help me |
| 11:04.38 | CM | koen: This is from two weeks ago, but still: http://rafb.net/p/Fhjh4960.html |
| 11:04.59 | otavio | koen: thanks by your help |
| 11:05.21 | koen | CM: icu is needed by webkit, minimal doesn't have the feedreader and browser (if I didn't mess up) |
| 11:07.09 | CM | Ok, should save a lot of space then :) |
| 11:10.06 | koen | CM: you don't gain the 20+MB you expect due to compression |
| 11:10.44 | CM | Ok. That libvorbisenc sure shouldn't be there either.. |
| 11:11.19 | CM | koen: still, nice work. The smaller "base" the better :) |
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| 11:29.50 | koen | CM: http://rafb.net/p/owH8nJ32.html |
| 11:30.28 | koen | CM: that's from a tarball, so that probably doesn't have an iconcache |
| 11:34.02 | CM | koen: Oh, neat :) |
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| 11:54.42 | flo_lap | re |
| 11:54.55 | koen | flo_lap: wb |
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| 12:22.17 | koen | CM: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/cms/slimming-down-oe-built-images |
| 12:27.22 | CM | koen: Thanks for doing more than just looking at things that should be done :) |
| 12:43.33 | mwester-road | re |
| 12:43.52 | koen | mwester-road: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/cms/slimming-down-oe-built-images |
| 12:45.51 | mwester-road | :) Nice... |
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| 12:48.33 | koen | mickey|lunch: who needs to be poked to so "sed -i s:kabel.utwente.nl:thruhere.net:g config.ini" on the openmoko planet server? |
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| 12:51.34 | CM | koen: maybe roh? |
| 12:51.58 | mwester-road | What uses libicudata? |
| 12:52.12 | CM | webkit I think |
| 12:52.28 | koen | webkit uses ICU for unicode conversions |
| 12:52.30 | koen | sadly |
| 12:52.52 | mwester-road | If so, then webkit is consuming 16M in libs that only webkit uses. |
| 12:52.55 | mwester-road | Ouch. |
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| 12:52.59 | flo_lap | koen: can't zecke fix that? ;) |
| 12:53.48 | koen | flo_lap: zecke and I decided that other webkit problems have a higher priority :) |
| 12:54.24 | koen | mwester: icu compresses well, so it comes down to 8MB, still a lot, though |
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| 13:39.54 | urmelZAUS|work | I have a probelm with "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-as: unrecognized option `-Qy'" -> http://pastebin.ca/813334 |
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| 14:10.23 | reppel | Hi, is there a printable version (PDF,onepage html) of the oe user manual? |
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| 14:12.29 | florian_ | Reach: worst case you can generate a pdf from the manual sources |
| 14:13.16 | flo_lap | hrm |
| 14:13.30 | flo_lap | s/Reach/reppel/ |
| 14:13.35 | reppel | yep :) |
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| 14:17.04 | reppel | ok I'm installing xmlto |
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| 14:19.37 | koen | reppel: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/openembedded-user-manual-available-pdf |
| 14:19.59 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 14:20.07 | koen | hey chouimat|work |
| 14:20.11 | reppel | koen: thanks |
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| 14:20.54 | Jin^eLD | huhu |
| 14:21.04 | reppel | koen: is it re-generated often? |
| 14:21.38 | flo_lap | hi Jin^eLD |
| 14:22.40 | koen | reppel: the one on the website is regerated every hour, but there haven't been any changes to the docbook file the past months |
| 14:22.44 | Jin^eLD | hi florian |
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| 14:25.36 | nud | cbrake: hello |
| 14:25.57 | nud | cbrake: do you remember having serial port issues on cm-x270 back in 2.6.22 ? |
| 14:26.34 | cbrake | nud: no, I don't recall any issues |
| 14:26.45 | nud | I'm struggling with a strange one |
| 14:26.55 | nud | the first time I start my program, it sometimes doesn't work |
| 14:27.05 | nud | but it always work the second time |
| 14:27.08 | cbrake | nud: we are using the 2nd and 3rd ports pretty heavy in an application |
| 14:27.17 | nud | any idea where it could come from ? |
| 14:27.30 | nud | ttyS2* |
| 14:27.35 | cbrake | nud: are you using handshaking? |
| 14:27.43 | nud | handshaking ? |
| 14:27.49 | cbrake | nud: RTS, CTS, etc |
| 14:27.50 | nud | there should be no hardware flow control |
| 14:28.19 | nud | the device I try to communicate with doesn't support flow control |
| 14:28.46 | cbrake | nud: that is what I'm doing |
| 14:29.13 | cbrake | nud: you might want to dump the GPIO registers when it fails and make sure they are set up correctly, but I'm not sure why running your program the second time would fix that. |
| 14:29.28 | nud | how can I dump those registers ? |
| 14:29.42 | koen | devmem2 or pxaregs |
| 14:30.33 | florian_ | hehe devmem2 is evil :) |
| 14:30.51 | nud | hell, I only have 'cat' |
| 14:31.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3462 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder> |
| 14:31.06 | cdbot2 | * * librecord-0.1-r0-do_fetch |
| 14:31.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3462 |
| 14:31.33 | cbrake | nud: bitbake pxaregs |
| 14:31.42 | nud | yep that's what I'm doing right now |
| 14:31.43 | koen | florian_: the gpephone entries in the angstrom lockdown file are not up to date |
| 14:32.00 | koen | florian_: they still use the 0.1 files that the orange engineers messed up |
| 14:34.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3463 has been created by <OE-Autobuilder> |
| 14:34.06 | cdbot2 | * * librecord-1.0-r0-do_configure |
| 14:34.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3463 |
| 14:35.09 | florian_ | koen: uh right, i might have an update at kc... |
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| 14:45.02 | koen | hey zecke |
| 14:51.57 | mickey|lunch | koen: i just told the OM planet admin |
| 14:52.04 | mickey|lunch | he will change it soon |
| 14:54.12 | nud | cbrake: are you able to decrypt what pxaregs give ? especially, where should I look for serial port configuration |
| 14:54.34 | koen | mickey|lunch: thanks |
| 14:54.50 | mickey|lunch | np |
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| 14:58.13 | mickey|lunch | what was that tool again to convert between different SCMs? |
| 14:58.25 | koen | tailor |
| 14:58.28 | mickey|lunch | ah, right. thanks |
| 14:58.41 | koen | or 'zecke', if tailor doesn't work |
| 15:01.17 | koen | mickey|lunch: the gtk-iconcache is supposed to be a mmap'able file, right? |
| 15:03.04 | mickey|lunch | koen: i never dug so deep into gtk, can't answer that |
| 15:03.12 | mickey|lunch | jffs2 definitely has an mmap call |
| 15:03.18 | mickey|lunch | i don't know how they're implemening it |
| 15:03.26 | mickey|lunch | but lots of stuff would break without one |
| 15:04.22 | koen | AFAIK most apps have a fallback |
| 15:04.45 | koen | yaffs cites mmap as a feature over jffs2 |
| 15:05.02 | koen | but we all know not to believe yaffs propaganda |
| 15:05.19 | florian_ | yes please |
| 15:05.32 | florian_ | anyone who tried logfs? |
| 15:05.57 | florian_ | There was a talk at the meeting in Linz which was promising. |
| 15:06.41 | koen | I talked to joern about it last year |
| 15:06.47 | koen | I still have high jopes |
| 15:06.48 | nud | mmh |
| 15:06.50 | koen | hopes* |
| 15:06.55 | nud | I happen to have CRTSCTS |
| 15:06.57 | nud | set |
| 15:07.17 | florian_ | mickey|lunch: no need to use tailor for cvs->svn btw. |
| 15:07.22 | nud | cbrake: so yes I'm using handshaking |
| 15:07.56 | koen | "My goal is to push for inclusion into 2.6.25" - logfs.org |
| 15:08.16 | cbrake | nud: check the GPIO direction and the alternate function registers for the pins that are used for the serial port |
| 15:08.20 | florian_ | koen: yep, seems to be a smart guy and even if it does not seem to be finished it might do a good job already |
| 15:08.58 | cbrake | nud: see PXA270 dev manual for definitions of the GPIO registers |
| 15:09.24 | koen | florian_: jffs2 doesn't support >=4GB partitions, logfs does |
| 15:11.04 | florian_ | koen: well... i didn't run into this limitation yet |
| 15:11.45 | florian_ | Well.. it might becom an issue on the eepc which has up to 8gb of flash. |
| 15:12.07 | florian_ | I tried to buy one here, but the better ones are hard to get... |
| 15:12.19 | koen | florian_: eeepc uses a CF bridge |
| 15:12.48 | florian_ | koen: ah right |
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| 15:15.31 | koen | volunteers for adding eeepc machine descriptions to OE? |
| 15:16.06 | Genesis | if i get one :o) |
| 15:16.26 | koen | Xorg is in a reasonable shape judging from my efika |
| 15:17.07 | florian_ | Genesis: good choice, i'm just using one :) |
| 15:17.30 | Genesis | hehe a friend of mine has one too |
| 15:17.39 | Genesis | so i just dd his disk for my install :) |
| 15:18.12 | Genesis | i paid it 300 € , i'm waiting now :) |
| 15:18.19 | florian_ | koen: yeah, but i guess that will have to wait until they are available in germany... we even migt get them for the kc shop |
| 15:19.08 | florian_ | Genesis: that's not really much, i have seen these much more expensive on ebay lately |
| 15:19.50 | Genesis | it's cheapeast than a eeepc for sure. |
| 15:20.00 | Genesis | and i participate to recyclage :) |
| 15:20.44 | Genesis | i'll put gentoo on it and develop some things for OE on it |
| 15:21.21 | Genesis | first thing : an diskdruid tools that works with image_tables |
| 15:21.30 | Genesis | on images files |
| 15:21.44 | Genesis | to make multipartitions images disks with OE |
| 15:22.19 | Genesis | i don't find any project like that |
| 15:23.05 | florian_ | Genesis: well, a ~300EUR device cant't compete with the x31. |
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| 15:25.17 | Genesis | :) |
| 15:25.37 | Genesis | it's second hand but it's robust |
| 15:27.18 | florian_ | Genesis: I stopped to buy new PC stuff... even the company uses used stuff mostly. |
| 15:27.56 | Genesis | when i see the poor garanties with new material and the time lost trying to get it oki |
| 15:28.10 | Genesis | and the 2 months of dell for deliver us our material |
| 15:28.42 | Genesis | i don't see the real interest to get first hand hardware. |
| 15:29.06 | CoreDump | cutting down on compile times might be a good motive ;) |
| 15:29.30 | Genesis | i've a quad core xeon serveur |
| 15:30.00 | CoreDump | My quad box arrives tomorrow or the day after...finally |
| 15:30.34 | florian_ | CoreDump: well... just bought a used 3,6 GHz Xeon for almost nothing. |
| 15:31.15 | CoreDump | single core? :\ |
| 15:31.30 | CoreDump | dual/quad _does_ make quite a difference here |
| 15:32.26 | VoodooZ | anybody tested the tickless kernel stuff and high-res timer under ARM with the newer kernels? pass or fail? |
| 15:33.21 | florian_ | CoreDump: dual |
| 15:33.40 | florian_ | CoreDump: and a spare socket for an additional cpu |
| 15:33.48 | CoreDump | sweet |
| 15:34.07 | florian_ | VoodooZ: imho it works on omap devices |
| 15:35.44 | VoodooZ | good. any major power saving observed or performance side-effects you've heard abou t? |
| 15:38.17 | VoodooZ | I'm also wondering about highres timer for robotics use.. |
| 15:38.25 | florian_ | VoodooZ: I think that the Nokia tablets use this for power saving - they run all the time si its not a common "sleep" mode. |
| 15:44.59 | VoodooZ | florian_: thanks. I'm developing on NSLU2 for now but might start looking in something more "potent" for opencv.. |
| 15:45.13 | VoodooZ | those little eee pcs look nice and small... |
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| 15:59.44 | Jin^eLD | so.. what is the correct way to limit a package to be compatible with only a set of machines? I tried adding more than one machine to COMPATIBLE_MACHINE variable but that did not work out then |
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| 16:09.18 | nud | cbrake: one last question: does your serial port work *everytime* or does it fail sometimes ? |
| 16:09.24 | cbrake | nud: every time |
| 16:09.47 | nud | it's rather strange here the port fails something like once every ten boots |
| 16:10.04 | cbrake | nud: what is the failure mode? |
| 16:10.06 | nud | do you have some sample code you use to init the serial port ? |
| 16:10.22 | cbrake | nud: sure, just a min ... |
| 16:10.23 | nud | well in fact the port is opened without error but nothing is transmitted |
| 16:12.02 | cbrake | nud: http://pastebin.ca/813502 |
| 16:12.41 | nud | cbrake: thanks. The code I use for my serial port is this one: http://pastebin.ca/813503 (nothing clever beside spawning a thread to use blocking reads on the serial port) |
| 16:12.59 | nud | rs485 ? |
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| 16:13.30 | cbrake | nud: yes, just a difference in transcievers at the hardware level |
| 16:13.49 | nud | so they are interoperable? |
| 16:14.02 | cbrake | nud: no, different levels, etc |
| 16:14.22 | nud | the port I use is marked as TTL in the dev doc |
| 16:14.29 | nud | is it a rs485 one? |
| 16:14.48 | cbrake | nud: at the PXA270 level, everything is the same |
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| 16:15.05 | cbrake | nud: TTL signals go from the PXA270 to an external transciever |
| 16:15.13 | nud | ah ok |
| 16:15.17 | cbrake | nud: and then get shifted to RS232, 485, etc |
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| 16:15.47 | nud | ok |
| 16:21.30 | flo_lap | Genesis: btw. be careful with cheap replacement batteries at ebay... there is one at least selling faked "high capacity" ones |
| 16:22.38 | Genesis | thx for the advice |
| 16:22.56 | Genesis | i'll command at the same chinese vendor of my friend if i need it |
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| 17:04.23 | otavio | pH5: are you there? |
| 17:04.52 | pH5 | hi otavio |
| 17:05.01 | otavio | pH5: I'm having trouble with keyboard and koan told me you're the OE expert on it and would like to ask some things to you if you're available |
| 17:05.22 | otavio | zecke: had time to look at the mirror? I'd like to sync with lastest OE |
| 17:05.41 | otavio | zecke: if you're busy, I could help to work on the script |
| 17:06.24 | zecke | otavio: the script is in the public :) |
| 17:06.43 | otavio | zecke: what error do you have? |
| 17:11.08 | pH5 | otavio: sure |
| 17:12.08 | otavio | pH5: we're having problem with keyboard symbols |
| 17:12.21 | otavio | pH5: we want to use xkb to allow user to set the keyboard layout |
| 17:12.35 | otavio | pH5: so we've enabled it back on libxt, kdrive and libx11 |
| 17:13.02 | otavio | pH5: all looks OK and setxkbmap looks to work too |
| 17:13.22 | otavio | pH5: it does change the layout but some keys give completely crazy symbols |
| 17:13.38 | otavio | pH5: as: delete, insert, page/up, page/down and like |
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| 17:17.21 | Genesis | bye |
| 17:18.30 | pH5 | uh-oh, I'm 'expert' in xkb removal, not using it. |
| 17:20.18 | otavio | pH5: but how we might identify what's the problem cause? |
| 17:20.29 | otavio | pH5: we're lost since it looks to be on X itself |
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| 17:21.04 | otavio | pH5: and we looks to need xkb to be able to change the layout in an easy way, won't we? |
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| 17:25.01 | koen | CM: ping |
| 17:25.55 | CM | koen: pong :) |
| 17:26.07 | koen | watch the next commmit |
| 17:27.14 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra5273f9b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:27.14 | CIA-3 | webkit-gtk: fiddle with exceptions and rtti cflags |
| 17:27.14 | CIA-3 | before: 3.0M armv5te/libwebkitgtk1_0.1+svnr27222-r3_armv5te.ipk |
| 17:27.14 | CIA-3 | after: 2.3M armv5te/libwebkitgtk1_0.1+svnr27222-r3_armv5te.ipk |
| 17:27.38 | koen | CM: there, you go :) |
| 17:27.47 | CM | Nice, what flags did you change? |
| 17:28.11 | koen | I added -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti |
| 17:28.22 | koen | see http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16302 for details |
| 17:28.23 | CM | Heh, good thing for 700k |
| 17:29.10 | zecke | cool |
| 17:29.31 | zecke | otavio: I'm taking a look |
| 17:29.40 | Khem | koen: Can you review my patch posted here http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3460 |
| 17:30.29 | Khem | I have built a qemuarm x11-image |
| 17:31.05 | Khem | is there any info we have put together on how to run qemu on OE |
| 17:31.37 | Khem | I have run it outside OE but this one does not work with the image from OE |
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| 17:33.40 | koen | zecke: any guestimate on when you'll have time to update the moko stuff to the new webview api? |
| 17:34.06 | zecke | koen: what about tonight? |
| 17:34.13 | koen | that'd be cool |
| 17:34.35 | koen | should I update webkit now in OE? |
| 17:34.52 | zecke | not now, alp's seems to merge patches |
| 17:35.23 | koen | with 'update' I mean applying http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-December/003716.html |
| 17:35.46 | zecke | koen: I'm building the OM libs now |
| 17:36.52 | pH5 | otavio: if it is in X itself, I fear you have to wade through that code or ask somebody knowledgeable. I have no experience with the xkb translation. |
| 17:41.39 | otavio | pH5: good :( |
| 17:41.56 | otavio | pH5: I have no idea where it's since it all looks right but symbols are still wrong |
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| 17:48.52 | sirfred | Hello |
| 17:48.57 | koen | hey sirfred |
| 17:50.52 | zecke | brb, booting to OSX.... |
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| 18:03.10 | Khem | koen: thank you for looking at the patch. Do i increase PR in eglibc_svn.bb too |
| 18:03.25 | koen | yes |
| 18:03.50 | Khem | koen: how about for intermediate and initial bbs |
| 18:04.12 | koen | those don't generate packages and don't need to get rebuilt afaik |
| 18:04.24 | Khem | actually I need to change PV also |
| 18:04.39 | Khem | now glibc is moved on to 2.7.90 |
| 18:04.51 | Khem | on trunk |
| 18:04.59 | Khem | and so has eglibc |
| 18:05.31 | Khem | PV = "2.7+svnr${SRCREV}" |
| 18:05.36 | Khem | is it ok ? |
| 18:05.45 | koen | yeah |
| 18:06.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3399 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com |
| 18:06.07 | cdbot2 | * * Add --disable-libgomp to gcc 4.2.x recipes |
| 18:06.08 | Khem | or PV = "2.7.90+svnr${SRCREV}" |
| 18:06.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3399 |
| 18:06.16 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2894 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com |
| 18:06.18 | cdbot2 | * * eglibc should provide glibc packages when chosen as default libc |
| 18:06.20 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2894 |
| 18:07.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3464 has been created by raj.khem(AT)gmail.com |
| 18:07.06 | cdbot2 | * * Multiple files for bluez-utils-dbus |
| 18:07.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3464 |
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| 18:14.16 | Jin^eLD | binutils-cross-sdk is doing weird stuff |
| 18:14.33 | Jin^eLD | this can't be right? in the install directory: ./binutils-cross-sdk-dbg/opt/bco/arm/bin/.debug/.debug/.debug/.debug/.debug |
| 18:22.35 | Jin^eLD | and if someone could have a look at this one: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2482 |
| 18:22.37 | Jin^eLD | :> |
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| 18:26.37 | Khem | RP: I need your help on setting up qemu |
| 18:36.44 | Jin^eLD | does building meta-toolchain work for anyone? |
| 18:40.46 | mr_nice | ~seen woglinde |
| 18:40.50 | ibot | woglinde <i=woglinde@e178122203.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 23h 5m 25s ago, saying: 'hi rp'. |
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| 18:50.03 | zecke | koen: I'm updating them now |
| 18:50.14 | zecke | koen: need to spend some time on compiling them though |
| 18:50.16 | Jin^eLD | hi zecke |
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| 18:56.01 | Jin^eLD | why is meta-toolchain building the external-toolchain .bb file? |
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| 18:56.20 | Jin^eLD | aem, not building the file but causing the recipe to be build? |
| 18:56.33 | Jin^eLD | from what I understand external-toolchain.bb will only build if the toolchain is already installed on the system |
| 18:56.44 | Jin^eLD | however to obtain one, building meta-toolchain is required |
| 18:56.56 | Jin^eLD | looks like running in circles.. ideas anyone? |
| 18:57.14 | koen | external-toolchain.bb is a meta file to tell OE you already have a toolchain |
| 18:57.31 | Jin^eLD | koen: well, I don't, I want to create one by building the meta-toolchain package |
| 18:57.51 | Jin^eLD | but this seems to trigger the building of external toolchain which of course fails, because it looks for the toolchain in /opt/bla and can not find it |
| 18:58.40 | Jin^eLD | so I wonder which package is setting the dependency that causes external-toolchain to be built |
| 19:01.48 | Khem | Jin^eLD: do bitbake -v -D |
| 19:01.55 | Khem | Jin^eLD: and save the output |
| 19:02.43 | Jin^eLD | indeed, good idea |
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| 19:05.29 | Jin^eLD | ok that's funny, I can't find anyone who would be selecting it |
| 19:05.33 | Jin^eLD | looking 2nd time.. |
| 19:06.51 | Khem | Jin^eLD: Look for Selecting with big 'S" |
| 19:08.29 | Jin^eLD | noone is Selecting external-toolchain |
| 19:08.33 | Jin^eLD | that makes no sense |
| 19:08.35 | Jin^eLD | mhm |
| 19:10.37 | Jin^eLD | well, let me move away the external-toolchain.bb file and see who complains |
| 19:13.18 | Jin^eLD | lol |
| 19:13.19 | Jin^eLD | :) |
| 19:13.22 | Jin^eLD | that makes no sense at all |
| 19:13.32 | Jin^eLD | I remove the external-toolchain.bb and then meta-toolchain did build |
| 19:14.07 | koen | Jin^eLD: http://monotone.openembedded.org/revision/info/8c692ec4078a7d2e345213289da925bfca3cac63 |
| 19:15.44 | Jin^eLD | uh |
| 19:15.49 | Jin^eLD | I did a fresh pull/update today |
| 19:16.04 | koen | zecke: how's the compiling going? |
| 19:16.13 | zecke | koen: feedreader2 should work |
| 19:16.40 | koen | is that in svn yet? |
| 19:18.27 | Jin^eLD | koen: ok I am somewhat confused now, what you pasted - is that what causes my problem or is that what solves it? I did an update today so I should have this |
| 19:18.45 | koen | that show how to solve such problems |
| 19:19.24 | zecke | koen: feedreader is in |
| 19:19.58 | Jin^eLD | koen: well, but I should be able to see that someone is pulling in teh deb of external-toolchain when running with -D ? |
| 19:20.04 | Jin^eLD | and I do not see it, that's what really confuses me |
| 19:20.16 | koen | Jin^eLD: no idea on that, sorry |
| 19:20.37 | Jin^eLD | when I remove the .bb physically it's ok - then meta-toolchain builds, really weird |
| 19:20.57 | Jin^eLD | well, I guess I'll have to talk to RP and florian |
| 19:21.17 | koen | zecke: is the kinetic scrolling bug fixed so feedreader2 can use that again? |
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| 19:21.28 | Khem | x11-image with eglibc comes up on wemu wow |
| 19:21.37 | Khem | s/wemu/qemu |
| 19:21.38 | zecke | koen: feedreader2 always used it?! |
| 19:22.02 | Khem | keyboard is not working :* |
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| 19:22.33 | koen | zecke: ah, then it was the browser that disabled it :) |
| 19:24.10 | zecke | koen: don't ask for too much now :) |
| 19:30.19 | zecke | koen: browser is updated as well, no kinetic scrolling |
| 19:30.55 | zecke | otavio: hmm, the state is pretty bad and I might need to start over... |
| 19:31.18 | koen | zecke: well, many thanks for updating it to the new api |
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| 19:36.03 | zecke | koen: I need to update libmrss as well |
| 19:36.09 | zecke | koen: but that is not critical |
| 19:37.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3465 has been created by andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com |
| 19:37.06 | cdbot2 | * * zaurus-hinge cannot find bl (on c7x0) |
| 19:37.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3465 |
| 19:38.16 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r676667f8... 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): webkit update: update webkit srcrevs, add midori 0.13, bump openmoko-feedreader2 and openmoko-browser2 |
| 19:38.19 | koen | zecke: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-December/003755.html |
| 19:39.04 | zecke | koen: Thanks for the cluebat with -fno-exceptions and -fno-rtti |
| 19:39.22 | Khem | koen: Does is ask for a new user initially when angstrom boots in X11 ? |
| 19:39.39 | koen | zecke: straight from webkit bugzilla :) |
| 19:39.57 | koen | Khem: is you built x11-image it should ask to create a new user |
| 19:40.51 | koen | s/is/if/ |
| 19:42.00 | Khem | koen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/15140063@N04/1785562109/in/photostream/ |
| 19:42.24 | koen | "Oops! You don't have permission to view this photo." |
| 19:42.33 | Khem | heh |
| 19:45.01 | koen | could you unmark it as 'private'? |
| 19:45.21 | koen | http://www.flickr.com/photos/15140063@N04/2105554761/ |
| 19:45.24 | koen | there we go :) |
| 19:45.41 | Khem | its public |
| 19:46.36 | Khem | koen, can you see it. somehow my keyboard and mouse is not working on that so I can not type in anything |
| 19:46.58 | koen | I haven't really tried qemu machine emu yet |
| 19:47.40 | Khem | koen: ok |
| 19:47.52 | koen | Khem: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/qemu/ |
| 19:48.26 | dcordes | Khem, is that a poky? |
| 19:48.31 | Khem | dcordes: no |
| 19:48.34 | gremlin[it] | qemu arm ox x86 ? |
| 19:48.35 | Khem | I am using angstrom |
| 19:48.40 | Khem | qemu arm |
| 19:48.56 | dcordes | Khem, which angstrom verison? |
| 19:48.57 | Khem | ext2 x11-image |
| 19:49.00 | Khem | 2008.1 |
| 19:49.14 | dcordes | I should also try |
| 19:49.19 | dcordes | does it use matchbox2 stuff? |
| 19:49.29 | koen | not yet |
| 19:49.38 | gremlin[it] | from what i know only a version of qemu user (and available) by poky emulate the touchscreen with the mouse so is usable for us ... |
| 19:49.49 | gremlin[it] | qemu user -> qemu used |
| 19:50.26 | Khem | I just need normal mouse and keyboard input on qemu |
| 19:50.35 | dcordes | I mimed the poky interface on my zaurus installing matchbox-desktop-2 matchbox-panel-2 but it's a pain because I run an ugly script for it |
| 19:51.32 | gremlin[it] | mhh i used only qemux86 ... |
| 19:51.58 | Khem | input ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse as /class/input/input1 |
| 19:52.28 | Khem | AT raw set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0 |
| 19:52.32 | gremlin[it] | yes ... but 90% of angstrom stipt don't use it and instead use tslib ... |
| 19:52.46 | gremlin[it] | are u pasting what ? |
| 19:53.01 | Khem | gremlin[it]: the messages from my boot log |
| 19:53.29 | koen | zecke: http://webkit.org/blog/151/new-webkit-reviewer-2/ |
| 19:53.33 | koen | you're famous :) |
| 19:53.46 | gremlin[it] | check if in /etc/profiles.d exist a tslib.sh or something like |
| 19:54.59 | koen | zecke: are your foss.in slides online? |
| 19:55.34 | zecke | on the foss.in side |
| 19:55.50 | koen | yeah, I found them: http://foss.in/2007/register/speakers/talkdetailspub.php?talkid=343 |
| 19:55.51 | zecke | koen: I'm sorry, I said you are a monster :) |
| 19:56.07 | zecke | koen: you are famous too :) |
| 19:57.18 | koen | :D |
| 19:57.45 | dcordes | ~hail OE_devs |
| 19:57.45 | ibot | ACTION bows down to OE_devs and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 19:58.19 | koen | zecke: your presentation looks familiar |
| 19:58.29 | zecke | ;) |
| 19:58.40 | zecke | koen: it can't though |
| 19:58.49 | zecke | koen: the History part is 'new' and the Qtopia part as well |
| 20:00.01 | zecke | koen: and I have used images |
| 20:01.09 | Khem | gremlin[it]: etc/profile.d/tslib.sh is there |
| 20:01.22 | Khem | gremlin[it]: it says TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/input/touchscreen0 |
| 20:01.27 | Khem | export TSLIB_TSDEVICE |
| 20:02.21 | gremlin[it] | mhhh and /etc/X11/Xserver ... try to figure out if it use /dev/input/input[01] or /dev/input/touchscreen0 |
| 20:02.52 | koen | it should use /dev/input/touchscreen0 |
| 20:02.59 | koen | since /dev/input/touchscreen0 is under udev control |
| 20:03.08 | gremlin[it] | ah ok ... |
| 20:05.42 | Khem | yeah it checks -z "$TSLIB_TSDEVICE" |
| 20:06.15 | Khem | how should touchscreen function on qemu |
| 20:06.25 | Khem | through mouse ? |
| 20:06.47 | gremlin[it] | only a version of qemu available on inhand site ... |
| 20:06.56 | gremlin[it] | but i never try it |
| 20:07.01 | koen | the OE built qemu should have the touchscreen patches |
| 20:07.34 | Khem | thats the one I am using |
| 20:07.50 | Khem | the OE one |
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| 20:41.25 | Fique | morning all |
| 20:42.07 | otavio | zecke: ok .. will you start it now? |
| 20:42.45 | zecke | otavio: the machine is currently doing something... no idea if the trick helped or not |
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| 20:50.36 | zecke | otavio: seemed to have worked |
| 20:50.55 | otavio | zecke: wow, nice! :-) |
| 20:51.22 | zecke | also the cron job seems to work |
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| 21:26.33 | CM | cbrake: Ah, interesting. Did you see the the AOT stuff in after 1.2.7? http://www.mono-project.com/AOT |
| 21:32.28 | cbrake | CM: yes, that looks very interesting |
| 21:32.53 | cbrake | CM: mono is definitely a bit slow to start on ARM |
| 21:35.37 | zecke | night guys |
| 21:36.40 | CM | night |
| 21:36.53 | CM | cbrake: I |
| 21:36.57 | CM | Sorry |
| 21:37.22 | CM | I'll try to get it installed on my neo soon using one of koens minimal images where there's enough space left :) |
| 21:37.33 | cbrake | CM: heh, sounds good |
| 21:37.59 | cbrake | CM: I'm pushing 1.2.6pre4 recipies shortly after I finish a bit of testing |
| 21:38.16 | cbrake | CM: recommend starting with that version |
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| 21:42.22 | CM | Ok, thanks :) |
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| 21:58.38 | Khem | something is broken in X11 it does not recognise wacom usbdevice |
| 21:59.03 | Khem | thats why I dont get touchscreen working on OE |
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| 22:19.33 | CIA-3 | 03khem 07org.oe.dev * rb777d230... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add glibc-* to equivalent eglibc-* packages in RPROVIDES. |
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| 22:49.39 | Fique | khem: do you recommend eglibc as a stable enough alternative for non-angstrom builds? |
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| 22:51.14 | Ghiottone | hello |
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| 22:59.30 | CIA-3 | 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r0d12a42d... 10/ (8 files in 5 dirs): |
| 22:59.30 | CIA-3 | mono 1.2.6pre4: add new version to OE |
| 22:59.30 | CIA-3 | DEFAULT_PREFERENCE is set to -1 for this version |
| 22:59.30 | CIA-3 | until 1.2.6 is released. |
| 23:02.06 | Ghiottone | when using bb threads > 1 and DEPENDS |
| 23:02.41 | Ghiottone | it seems that each thread does note communicate with the others |
| 23:03.30 | Ghiottone | I mean I have package A that depends on B. one thread starts to build B while the other builds A like B was already compiled and staged |
| 23:04.12 | Ghiottone | an thus it fails. After running the same build-package-A command a few times finally the stage phase of B was done and A compiled |
| 23:04.48 | Ghiottone | is this a known problem? I'm using mokomakefile and building OE packages for the Neo1973 |
| 23:10.40 | Khem | Fique: Right now it will be same for angstrom and non angstrom I think |
| 23:10.58 | Khem | Fique: I encourage you to do so and find issues if any |
| 23:11.09 | Khem | and report here we will fix them |
| 23:21.28 | hvontres|work | Ghiottone: what version of bitbake are you using? |
| 23:22.50 | Ghiottone | hvontres|work, 1.8.8 |
| 23:26.16 | hvontres|work | Ghiottone: hmm, not sure then. any particular packages that cause this? |
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| 23:27.23 | Ghiottone | hvontres|work, no. I have seen this behavior with other packages |
| 23:28.07 | hvontres|work | Ghiottone: Next time you hit this, you might want to file a bug |
| 23:29.00 | Ghiottone | I think it is easy to reproduce with a clean build and a package that depens on another and uses a .h from it |
| 23:33.29 | Khem | Ghiottone: I do clean build almost every day never ran into such an issue |
| 23:33.51 | Khem | I use bitbake 1.8.8-svn branch |
| 23:34.31 | timtimred | hfsplusutils is an example of this, which fails to finish off rpm2cpio-native first |
| 23:35.44 | timtimred | kinda |
| 23:36.01 | timtimred | well a similar issue |
| 23:36.21 | timtimred | with bitbake 1.8.8 too |
| 23:36.46 | Ghiottone | does the clean operation removes header files installed in the stage phase? |
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