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| 07:02.52 | dcordes | ~lart DaedalusX |
| 07:02.52 | ibot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in DaedalusX's direction, hitting DaedalusX and sending DaedalusX flying into the closet |
| 07:03.09 | DaedalusX | I'm distinctly out of the closet, thanks. |
| 07:03.14 | DaedalusX | :P |
| 07:03.23 | DaedalusX | Tom Cruise on the other hand XD |
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| 07:15.29 | kenney | Im a new user |
| 07:15.36 | kenney | anyone would like to help me |
| 07:17.03 | dcordes | kenney: of course |
| 07:17.06 | dcordes | what's the problem? |
| 07:17.12 | kenney | 2 problems.. |
| 07:17.19 | kenney | 1. Im a new user to IRC |
| 07:17.26 | kenney | 2. Im really new to OE |
| 07:18.25 | kenney | I got to know about OE from foss.in |
| 07:19.59 | dcordes | cool. Do you have a specific target device you want to cross compile for? |
| 07:20.29 | kenney | Attended a session by holger hans peter freyther |
| 07:20.38 | kenney | nope.. |
| 07:21.57 | kenney | I was looking at gumstixs |
| 07:22.01 | dcordes | kenney: that's zecke |
| 07:22.13 | dcordes | I also want to get a gumstix machine |
| 07:22.28 | kenney | how is OE better than linux |
| 07:22.38 | dcordes | OE builds linux |
| 07:23.01 | dcordes | cross compilling based on metadata- do you know gentoo? |
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| 07:23.57 | kenney | heard about it.. |
| 07:25.21 | kenney | gumstix works on linux |
| 07:25.28 | kenney | so programming must be easier. |
| 07:25.45 | kenney | I want to do a bluetooth application.. |
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| 07:32.07 | kenney | gumstix has builtin bluetooth |
| 07:32.14 | kenney | and the build has bluez |
| 08:08.08 | xjqian | the Angstrom <sys/signal.h> is an empty file in my STAGING_DIR/include/sys |
| 08:08.29 | xjqian | sounds a little fishy to me. is this expected? |
| 08:14.10 | xjqian | ok, actually, couple of the headers in <sys> is almost blank. I guess I'm missing something basic |
| 08:14.47 | xjqian | Is this arm specific? |
| 08:16.38 | xjqian | never mind... |
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| 11:20.26 | niv_one_three | I mean like google document? |
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| 12:01.42 | Freak_NL | (it checks the md5sum from the feeds by default) |
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| 13:20.57 | Crofton|home | gm |
| 13:22.14 | likewise | grumble, I was trying to perform remote debugging last night, and it took me three hours to understand that a no-debug build does not put anything useful in .debug/* ... :-) |
| 13:32.12 | Crofton|home | heh |
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| 13:35.32 | ant | hello |
| 13:36.12 | ant | I found out the origin of QA issues for libstc++, libmudflap... |
| 13:36.29 | ant | it only happens doing -crebuild |
| 13:36.43 | ant | ...of course the packages are found... |
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| 13:37.25 | ant | so I'd say it's not an issue |
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| 13:55.43 | Crofton|home | hmmm, I am fetching bitbake-1.8.6? |
| 13:58.16 | likewise | Crofton|home: you try to fetch 1.8.9? |
| 13:58.21 | timtimred | is that a trick question? |
| 13:58.54 | Crofton|home | I am building an image |
| 13:59.00 | Crofton|home | NOTE: package bitbake-1.8.6: started |
| 13:59.39 | likewise | no, 1.8.9 tag was not set yesterday, if you try to pull it, you get everything. but Crofton's issue seems something else. |
| 14:00.01 | Crofton|home | yeah |
| 14:00.18 | likewise | ant: so the AQ the issues remains after one did a rebuild once? |
| 14:00.20 | Crofton|home | not sure why runnnig bitbake foo-image would try to build bitbake ... |
| 14:00.24 | likewise | s/AQ/QA |
| 14:01.02 | likewise | Crofton|home: strange indeed. one would say the bitbake dependency was already met :-) |
| 14:01.10 | Crofton|home | yes :) |
| 14:01.39 | Crofton|home | The build should have failed on something else |
| 14:01.53 | Crofton|home | working on fixing the directfb issue I created |
| 14:02.15 | like|ikea | Crofton|home: appreciated. I hope to play with directfb on some display soon |
| 14:02.16 | Crofton|home | ikea is four hours away :( |
| 14:02.38 | like|ikea | 10 minutes max for me :-) |
| 14:02.44 | Crofton|home | grrrr |
| 14:02.57 | Crofton|home | everything is better in .eu |
| 14:03.11 | like|ikea | Crofton|home: well, looking outside, I'ld say no |
| 14:03.21 | Crofton|home | well |
| 14:03.25 | like|ikea | Although I guess it won't rain todat |
| 14:03.27 | like|ikea | y |
| 14:03.27 | Crofton|home | I usspetc you see the same as I do |
| 14:03.34 | Crofton|home | grey and chilly with rain |
| 14:03.38 | like|ikea | yup |
| 14:04.05 | Crofton|home | the grass is greener on the other side of the pond |
| 14:04.20 | like|ikea | we could consider swap places? :-) |
| 14:04.35 | Crofton|home | we should arrange an OE exchange program |
| 14:04.40 | like|ikea | better |
| 14:04.43 | like|ikea | and get funded for it |
| 14:04.50 | Crofton|home | exactly! |
| 14:05.31 | like|ikea | or set up an OE expert support company, multinational even |
| 14:06.02 | |fred| | you can try to get sponsored by trolltech :), it was working a few years ago |
| 14:06.03 | Crofton|home | in a way, we already have that, we just foret to chrage |
| 14:06.13 | like|ikea | the guys from kgdb did it, the guys behind mysql did, the guys behind ecos did. |
| 14:06.20 | Crofton|home | yep |
| 14:06.32 | like|ikea | Yeah we missed that in the business plan |
| 14:06.57 | gremlin[it] | is what (in little) i'm doing here ! |
| 14:07.09 | like|ikea | gremlin[it]: you got customers? |
| 14:07.24 | gremlin[it] | be part of an affiliate program should be great ! :) |
| 14:07.54 | gremlin[it] | at now the company where i work for and some consultant work .. plus a couple of course |
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| 14:08.32 | like|ikea | gremlin[it]: full time employed? |
| 14:08.51 | gremlin[it] | yes |
| 14:09.01 | ant | like|ikea: i removed /temp again for the n time |
| 14:09.21 | like|ikea | It's hard for me to do both, I'm doubting whether I should start alone fully |
| 14:09.33 | ant | like|ikea: was doing -crebuild all the times (was in build script) |
| 14:09.35 | like|ikea | ant: you could build the cross tool and tar them up |
| 14:09.36 | gremlin[it] | when I'll finish i really would like see the OE logo inside a surgery room :) |
| 14:09.45 | ant | like|ikea: my build script... |
| 14:10.22 | gremlin[it] | like|ikea at now i have only truly spotted contultant work ... so i can't live with them ... |
| 14:10.38 | timtimred | a gumstix and some rubber gloves would do the trick |
| 14:10.45 | gremlin[it] | Crofton|home, "in your" what ? |
| 14:10.58 | like|ikea | gremlin[it]: sorry I don't get that last sentence, what did you mean? |
| 14:10.59 | Crofton|home | I dunno, brain maybe :) |
| 14:11.14 | like|ikea | I think the first thing to appear is embedded stuff in clothing |
| 14:11.32 | ant | like|ikea: all the files with suspect .la come from gcc-cross 4.1.2-r13 |
| 14:11.42 | ant | like|ikea: ? |
| 14:11.51 | Crofton|home | yeah, we have some guys doing "wearable computing" research here |
| 14:12.11 | like|ikea | ant: yes, I know. |
| 14:12.20 | like|ikea | ant: it's just that I cannot find out why |
| 14:12.23 | gremlin[it] | like|ikea, i do both full time and consultant work cause i cannot live with only consultant work :( ... |
| 14:12.37 | gremlin[it] | Crofton|home nice !!! |
| 14:12.48 | ant | like|ikea: I was not sure but checked the creation timestamp... |
| 14:12.56 | like|ikea | gremlin[it]: ok, you perform design and programming as well? |
| 14:13.45 | ant | like|ikea: dunno you but have also a couple of broken symlinks to gfortran |
| 14:14.11 | gremlin[it] | like|ikea yes, usualy BSP, a Linux base system plus a little help in the application customer develop |
| 14:18.18 | ant | have to go (season shopping...) bb |
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| 14:19.22 | koen | 'morning all |
| 14:19.53 | Crofton|home | gm |
| 14:19.54 | gremlin[it] | hi koen, HAHAHAHHA ! |
| 14:20.36 | koen | like|ikea: xf86-video-ati makes my LCD flicker like crazy, radeonfb + kdrive doesn't |
| 14:20.54 | Crofton|home | koen, what package that needs dfb builds? |
| 14:20.55 | koen | like|ikea: but DRI works, and I think if one installs mesa-dri AIGLX should work as well |
| 14:21.07 | koen | Crofton|home: gst-plugins-bad |
| 14:21.08 | Freak_NL | koen: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl ligt plat? |
| 14:21.12 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 14:21.20 | Crofton|home | I am goign to revert the dfb changes |
| 14:21.24 | koen | Freak_NL: new ISP, try http://dominion.thruhere.net |
| 14:21.24 | Crofton|home | and test against that |
| 14:21.29 | Crofton|home | than try fixinfg -exmaples |
| 14:21.51 | Freak_NL | koen: some packages refer to your webspace |
| 14:21.58 | Freak_NL | gpe themes |
| 14:22.03 | koen | ah, right |
| 14:22.20 | Freak_NL | gpe industrial and clearlooks I think |
| 14:22.42 | koen | ./conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf:5:#@MAINTAINER: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl> |
| 14:22.45 | koen | whoops |
| 14:23.27 | Freak_NL | grep -r utwente * ? :) |
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| 14:32.46 | Crofton|home | ok gst-plugions builds |
| 14:34.18 | Crofton|home | hmm |
| 14:34.37 | Crofton|home | but gst-plugins-bad does not appear to DEPEnD on directfb? |
| 14:35.02 | koen | ah |
| 14:35.07 | koen | time to add one :) |
| 14:35.23 | Crofton|home | heh |
| 14:35.24 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 14:35.52 | Crofton|home | I am going to push changes that backl out the heasder file mess and your fix |
| 14:36.09 | Crofton|home | any other packages I shoudl try and build first |
| 14:36.12 | Crofton|home | evas? |
| 14:36.56 | koen | you'd have to ask mickey|family |
| 14:37.18 | Crofton|home | I am trying evas, vivijim mentioned it |
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| 14:37.55 | Crofton|home | maybe bug tracvker has some ... |
| 14:40.03 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r150235a3... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): various files: update my email address and website address |
| 14:40.08 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1c0cdd75... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): xorg-driver: update ati, add xgi and vmware |
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| 15:00.49 | Crofton|home | how do I delete a file from mtn? |
| 15:00.58 | Crofton|home | mtn del file, mtn commit file? |
| 15:01.08 | jilles | seems like it |
| 15:01.16 | Crofton|home | I hope so :) |
| 15:01.50 | jilles | mtn also lets you copy and move files |
| 15:02.17 | Crofton|home | yeah |
| 15:02.22 | Crofton|home | the commit is a bit funny :) |
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| 15:19.32 | CIA-3 | 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r754f491e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:19.32 | CIA-3 | directfb : Remove patch that changes include file path. For bug #3415. |
| 15:19.32 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:05.17 | RP | morning all |
| 16:07.19 | Crofton|home | gm |
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| 16:09.55 | mwester | WoooooohoooOO!!! Is that the directfb fix I see committed? Will gst-plugins finally build now? |
| 16:10.53 | VoodooZ | is bb currently busted? running bb give me a 'bzr module not found' error?! |
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| 18:03.58 | HopsNBarley | likewise, how do you see the rev # on bitbake? |
| 18:04.15 | HopsNBarley | likewise, duh - svn co tells me at the conclusion (-; |
| 18:16.14 | HopsNBarley | hey likewise - my "svn co" of bb show rev 986 as well, but version 1.8.9. |
| 18:27.34 | likewise | HopsNBarley: I use "svn info" |
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| 19:39.06 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1d393169... 10/ (1 classes/pkgconfig.bbclass): pkgconfig.bbclass: also catch ${STAGING_DIR_TARGET} |
| 19:39.10 | VoodooZ | running bitbake by itself (--help or --version) gives me bzr error also.. odd |
| 19:43.03 | VoodooZ | How else can I check which version I'm running? the last Changelog entry says 1.8.x, the previous one was 1.8.8... (using nslu2-linux.org's head) |
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| 20:29.33 | VoodooZ | is monotone 0.37 compatible with head? (Fedora 8 dev box) |
| 20:29.48 | XorA|gone | yup |
| 20:31.43 | gremlin[it] | VoodooZ, Fedora 8 have monotone and bitbake good for OE ! :) |
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| 20:35.10 | VoodooZ | ok. thanks. |
| 20:36.10 | VoodooZ | I'm asking because setting up a new nslu2-linux repo gave me the 'mtn db migrate' before the repo is even setup... i only have a nslu2-linux.mtn at this point.. |
| 20:38.36 | mwester | That's your repo -- you can migrate it without any problems. |
| 20:39.17 | VoodooZ | mwester: but how? mtn says it doesn't require any arguments... |
| 20:40.02 | VoodooZ | I tried it in the monotone folder too.. |
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| 20:43.40 | XorA|gone | mtn --db=whereisyourdb migrate |
| 20:44.03 | VoodooZ | thanks. sorry for the newb questions.. |
| 20:44.12 | XorA|gone | mtn --db=whereisyourdb db migrate |
| 20:44.21 | XorA|gone | I think thats the right one from memory |
| 20:45.14 | VoodooZ | yep |
| 20:45.19 | VoodooZ | working.. thanks |
| 20:45.53 | VoodooZ | it's giving my old hdd quite a workout too! :) |
| 20:45.57 | sirfred | Are you guys having problems compiling gcc-cross? |
| 20:46.19 | sirfred | It's failing here, I think something related with fortran support |
| 20:48.49 | XorA|gone | sirfred: you probably need gfortran installed on your host |
| 20:50.20 | sirfred | XorA|gone: Hmm, I have the suspect that the bitbake compiled gfortran needs some library that's in the staging directory, and hence not found by some inner configure execution |
| 20:50.52 | XorA|gone | sirfred: Ive never got round to investigating deeply, but installing gfortran seems to get round it for now |
| 20:50.56 | sirfred | XorA|gone: I think it's something related with bug #3363, not the same error though |
| 20:51.11 | sirfred | XorA|gone: Thanks for the clue |
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| 20:51.41 | XorA|gone | sirfred: BTW Ive sold my c860 so dont have an imageon anymore |
| 20:51.50 | sirfred | XorA|gone: Ooooh |
| 20:51.50 | VoodooZ | crap. I forgot how long those regenerate_caches were... |
| 20:52.08 | sirfred | XorA|gone: I didn't have time lately, too much work. |
| 20:52.28 | XorA|gone | sirfred: thats everyones life I think |
| 20:52.48 | sirfred | XorA|gone: The bad thing about this way of "working" is that everytime I try to make something is, in some way, like starting again |
| 20:53.07 | sirfred | Remember things, finding motivations to restart again,... |
| 20:53.20 | sirfred | A pitty |
| 20:53.23 | XorA|gone | brains need swapfiles :-) |
| 20:53.33 | sirfred | XorA|gone: Indeed. :) |
| 20:54.12 | sirfred | XorA|gone: IIRC, you're working for openmoko now, aren't you? |
| 20:54.36 | XorA|gone | sirfred: yes |
| 20:54.49 | sirfred | XorA|gone: How is it going? Happy? |
| 20:55.09 | XorA|gone | sirfred: so far |
| 20:55.25 | XorA|gone | sirfred: just wish the project didnt look like so much of a disaster from outside at times :-) |
| 20:55.35 | sirfred | XorA|gone: :) |
| 20:56.57 | sirfred | Android from google got my interest, and was thinking about trying to make it run in my zaurus, but I better wait for them to open the source (if they ever do it) |
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| 21:06.04 | sirfred | XorA|gone: Installing gfortran in the host worked. Thanks! |
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| 21:19.23 | VoodooZ | great. mtn regenerate_caches segfaulted! |
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| 21:42.05 | mwester | Sigh. Ok, does anyone know where "bzr" for python can be found? Apparently its now required by bitbake... |
| 21:45.46 | VoodooZ | mwester: good to see I'm not the only one. :( |
| 21:46.49 | VoodooZ | actually, just did a yum search and there's a bzr package... |
| 21:47.19 | VoodooZ | I thought it was an internal module of some sort for sure.. |
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| 21:58.56 | jilles | bzr is bazaar-ng, a distributed version control system |
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| 22:29.58 | mwester | Yeah, I know what bazaar is, and I found the bzr package on Fedora. There's just no bzr package for python. |
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