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| 00:20.10 | CIA-33 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8f4d485f... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/pulseaudio_0.9.8.bb): pulseaudio 0.9.8 needs dbus now |
| 00:20.26 | CIA-33 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rdfdb2e5e... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-pygtk_2.10.4.bb): python-pygtk 2.10.4 python-tokenize is included in python-lang |
| 00:20.34 | CIA-33 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbf13c465... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): pulseaudio 0.9.8 needs patch for corner case when you build with dbus but without HAL |
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| 00:45.18 | ant | Hi |
| 00:46.02 | ant | I think c7x0.conf need one more entry: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/xserver = "xserver-kdrive-imageon" |
| 00:46.25 | ant | this apparently solves the "multiple provider" problem |
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| 07:41.46 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:46.57 | CoreDump | koen: morning |
| 07:49.00 | hvontres|home | koen: morning :) |
| 07:54.00 | hvontres|home | wooooot.... |
| 07:54.49 | XorA | morning |
| 07:58.03 | koen | XorA: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/lego/almost+perfect-lego-costume-allows-man-to-get-anonymously-drunk-to-pieces-329629.php |
| 07:58.58 | XorA | koen: awesome |
| 08:10.19 | koen | probably because jffs2 was a pile of crap in 2001 |
| 08:13.46 | hvontres|home | RP:ping |
| 08:17.05 | hvontres|home | RP: I updated http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3397 with a new patch set. It now filters out the evile cmdline :) |
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| 08:33.10 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3422 has been created by koen(AT)openembedded.org |
| 08:33.12 | cdbot2 | * * ERROR: task-base-dbg is listed in PACKAGES multiple times |
| 08:33.14 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3422 |
| 08:33.22 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3416 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 08:33.24 | cdbot2 | * * apex-env-1.5.8-r0-do_compile |
| 08:33.26 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3416 |
| 08:33.34 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3422 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by koen(AT)openembedded.org |
| 08:33.36 | cdbot2 | * * ERROR: task-base-dbg is listed in PACKAGES multiple times |
| 08:33.38 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3422 |
| 08:33.47 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3419 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 3288 by koen(AT)openembedded.org |
| 08:33.48 | cdbot2 | * * qmake2-native is broken due to target dependance |
| 08:33.51 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3419 |
| 08:33.59 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3423 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org |
| 08:34.01 | cdbot2 | * * gcc-cross-4.1.2-r13-do_configure |
| 08:34.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3423 |
| 08:34.07 | cdbot2 | * * Flood control triggered, clearing queue... |
| 08:34.11 | cdbot2 | * * [39] pending messages removed. |
| 08:37.44 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4debfc11... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc-package.bbclass): glibc-package.bbclass: merge LOCALE_UTF8_ONLY from poky |
| 08:37.49 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7e45814c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc): angstrom.inc: only use utf8 locales |
| 08:43.51 | hvontres|home | n8 all |
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| 09:31.48 | lumag|away | hi! |
| 09:32.31 | Genesis | hi :) |
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| 09:54.57 | hrw | morning |
| 09:55.10 | hrw | koen: I see that you read my blog post |
| 09:55.52 | Genesis | yo hrw |
| 09:57.03 | lumag | hi hrw |
| 09:59.16 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 09:59.24 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r575e3741... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): linux-rp: add default_prefs to get poodle to use 2.6.17 |
| 10:00.35 | hrw | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/python.png |
| 10:02.27 | XorA | hrw: you need to fix your URLs on planet.linuxtogo.org |
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| 10:07.08 | koen | the people at http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=934&num=3 need to follow a course in plot making |
| 10:07.38 | hrw | XorA: or find person which manage it |
| 10:07.51 | XorA | ~blame koen |
| 10:07.52 | ibot | ACTION blames koen (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 10:09.41 | XorA | koen: typical marketing "Its faster man, heres some pictures" |
| 10:12.01 | koen | XorA: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2007-December/001062.html |
| 10:13.01 | XorA | koen: cant think of any now, the x configuraition is correct, the feeds are currently wrong |
| 10:13.19 | koen | so bitbake -s give the correct output? |
| 10:13.25 | XorA | koen: yes |
| 10:13.29 | XorA | koen: and images build |
| 10:13.32 | koen | ok |
| 10:13.56 | XorA | I think there was a window between two commits that allowed them to become unversioned for probably about 2 hours at max |
| 10:13.56 | koen | if noone speaks up I can start rsyncing the current build from scratch |
| 10:14.02 | XorA | just happened to be the hours I tested |
| 10:16.01 | koen | hrw, RP: how safe is it to merge the qemu from poky into OE? |
| 10:16.24 | koen | hrw: thanks for LOCALE_UTF8_ONLY |
| 10:16.35 | RP | koen: qemu itself should be safe, it works ok in our tests. I'd hold off the QEMU_OPTIONS stuff though |
| 10:16.54 | koen | RP: oe's glibc-package.bbclass has some multilib fixes |
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| 10:18.19 | RP | koen: ok thanks, I'll keep that in mind |
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| 10:18.51 | koen | RP: what would you think of a qemu-build.bbclass that assembles a chroot from packaged-staging and builds crappy apps that run generated binaries? |
| 10:20.02 | RP | koen: I suspect we'll need such a class eventually but I don't know if using a chroot is going to work |
| 10:20.21 | RP | koen: overrides ;-) |
| 10:20.55 | koen | my latest thought was an extra if clause in the preamble |
| 10:21.20 | koen | we have very few machine specific postinsts afaik |
| 10:21.31 | koen | blueprobe and dropbear are the only ones that come to mind |
| 10:21.31 | RP | Just don't add the postinst for packages that don't need it |
| 10:21.55 | koen | we could run the rest thru qemu for supported archs |
| 10:22.35 | RP | ah, you mean postinst that have to run on device rather than just having problems with cross arch |
| 10:22.45 | koen | right |
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| 10:23.37 | cdm | RP -- thanks again for your help last night. |
| 10:23.44 | cdm | RP -- got it working. |
| 10:23.48 | RP | cdm: np :) |
| 10:24.05 | cdm | seems to be working well -- gonna have a lot more people using OE now. :) |
| 10:24.13 | koen | things like e.g. locales and gdk-pixbug can run in qemu for qemu supported archs |
| 10:24.19 | RP | koen: That will probably have to be some kind of blacklist |
| 10:25.11 | RP | koen: Pre booting images under qemu-system emulation might be easier for postinsts |
| 10:25.27 | koen | RP: my plan was to set QEMURUN=true in env and have the offending postinsts check that |
| 10:26.25 | RP | koen: its one solution... |
| 10:26.36 | koen | RP: I'm not familiar with qemu terminology, but running postinsts and compiling obnoxious software would be a nice feature |
| 10:26.57 | koen | not to mention site-info autogeneration :) |
| 10:27.21 | RP | koen: agreed, it just needs someone with some free time |
| 10:28.41 | RP | I'm probably going to have to slow down or risk burnout :/ |
| 10:28.53 | koen | good idea |
| 10:29.13 | cdm | Hopefully over time we can help out in real-time |
| 10:29.20 | koen | burnouts are only OK in races :) |
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| 10:30.02 | koen | productivity drops with 90% |
| 10:31.22 | cdm | We are doing some interesting stuff around booting and faster boot times. |
| 10:36.47 | hrw | koen: no problem |
| 10:37.20 | koen | hrw: I hope we can iron out the updater.sh problems for all machine before the release |
| 10:39.29 | hrw | o yes |
| 10:39.46 | cdm | the fastest way to boot is to run /bin/sh |
| 10:39.47 | cdm | :) |
| 10:40.44 | hrw | cdm: especially on headless machine |
| 10:42.51 | cdm | :) |
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| 11:07.59 | Crofton|home | koen, know much about directfb? |
| 11:08.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3426 has been created by xydarcher(AT)hotmail.com |
| 11:08.06 | cdbot2 | * * build angstrom with unecessary packages. |
| 11:08.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3426 |
| 11:08.17 | koen | I know that the directfb dudes needs to eat way more steak |
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| 11:08.31 | koen | and according to zecke also should stop smoking pot |
| 11:08.39 | Crofton|home | heh |
| 11:09.04 | Crofton|home | pot smoking vegatarians |
| 11:09.27 | Crofton|home | the local vegatarian restaurant used drug profits for start-up capital |
| 11:09.32 | Crofton|home | allegedly |
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| 11:12.01 | magumbade | hi rob_w |
| 11:12.44 | magumbade | do you have 5 mins for me? |
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| 11:25.18 | movilinex | Hi, somebody knows why this error? |
| 11:25.21 | movilinex | FATAL: oe_runmake failed |
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| 11:27.25 | koen | my crystal ball is in repairs ATM, can't help you |
| 11:27.30 | koen | ~smartquestions |
| 11:27.30 | ibot | well, smartquestions is http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 11:35.18 | Crofton|home | esr is so elitist |
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| 11:39.27 | paines | hi |
| 11:41.05 | likewise | hello |
| 11:41.16 | koen | likewise: you use cairo with the image backend on ixp4xx, right? |
| 11:41.57 | likewise | koen: exactly |
| 11:42.03 | steliosk | Is there a way to change the execution order of start scripts ? Most of the apps use update-rcd with defaults and no number so they default to 20 |
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| 11:42.50 | koen | steliosk: yes, by adding numbers to them :) |
| 11:43.07 | koen | steliosk: and talk to XorA, he looked into initscripts a while ago |
| 11:43.29 | XorA | the current plan is to write a .bbclass that can work out script dependencies |
| 11:45.04 | steliosk | Would it make sense to follow another's distro's numbering ? i.e debian for example |
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| 11:47.57 | paines | hi |
| 11:48.27 | paines | i wanted to ask, if oe is a community project, or is it controlled by any company |
| 11:48.34 | paines | could'nt find this information |
| 11:48.46 | koen | steliosk: we want e.g. X to come up as early as possible, debian completes all initscripts first |
| 11:48.49 | XorA | paines: community |
| 11:48.53 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 11:49.02 | koen | steliosk: but yet, it would make sense to look at it for inspiration |
| 11:49.38 | paines | XorA: okay. thanks |
| 11:50.26 | steliosk | koen : Maybe add a bb. file that would call update-rcd and set the numbering to what a specific distro is doing i.e debian-update-exec oe something like that |
| 11:51.11 | steliosk | or a bbclass would be better for this kind of task ? |
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| 11:56.53 | koen | XorA: btw, image build time has been cut down due to the UTF8 changes |
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| 11:57.04 | koen | less time for coffee now ;) |
| 11:57.16 | XorA | koen: I only ever generate enlglish US and UK anyway |
| 12:00.30 | koen | heh |
| 12:00.44 | koen | "do you have a patch to crosstools for that toolchain" |
| 12:04.50 | lumag | !seen Spyr1 |
| 12:04.51 | cdbot2 | Spyr1 (n=ian@i-195-137-94-162.freedom2surf.net) was last seen parting #oe 22 days, 12 hours, 11 minutes ago stating "{}". |
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| 12:11.31 | hrw | XorA: how goes psplash unbreaking? |
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| 12:38.06 | hrw | http://pastebin.com/m21160375 - new angstrom build-release.sh script (not tested at all) |
| 12:39.53 | koen | looks much nicer |
| 12:40.21 | hrw | will be easier to add notification about success/failure of build etc |
| 12:40.49 | koen | seppuku/tinderclient? |
| 12:42.51 | hrw | sort of |
| 12:43.25 | hrw | echo "$target built for $machine<br />">>autobuilder.html |
| 12:43.31 | hrw | for example |
| 12:47.29 | koen | echo "schedule build foo-image" || nc <buildserver> <bitbakeport> |
| 12:47.37 | koen | s/||/|/ |
| 12:49.53 | hrw | if [ "$BUILD_CLEAN" != "" ] |
| 12:50.02 | hrw | this is 8th line in proper way |
| 12:54.07 | hrw | http://pastebin.com/m3b22813a |
| 12:54.09 | hrw | another |
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| 12:55.01 | hrw | ignore indents of course |
| 12:59.09 | hrw | koen: what do you think? |
| 12:59.20 | koen | looks good |
| 12:59.57 | hrw | will you test it? |
| 13:00.18 | koen | commit it and I will test it |
| 13:02.54 | hrw | ok |
| 13:03.09 | likewise | ~seen jbowler |
| 13:03.11 | ibot | jbowler <n=jbowler@nslu2-linux/jbowler> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 667d 18h 48m 14s ago, saying: 'k'. |
| 13:03.26 | likewise | 2 years was a good estimate |
| 13:03.41 | likewise | !logs |
| 13:03.42 | cdbot2 | Channel logs for #oe are archived at: |
| 13:03.43 | cdbot2 | http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23oe |
| 13:03.44 | cdbot2 | Live-logs are available at |
| 13:03.45 | cdbot2 | http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23oe.livelog |
| 13:03.47 | cdbot2 | See ?? help-logs for usage instructions |
| 13:07.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3426 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by koen(AT)openembedded.org |
| 13:07.07 | cdbot2 | * * build angstrom with unecessary packages. |
| 13:07.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3426 |
| 13:08.44 | hrw | koen: pushed |
| 13:09.42 | Crofton|home | I should make a directfb image |
| 13:09.51 | Crofton|home | once we have a few more things building with it |
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| 13:12.13 | koen | Crofton|home: indeed |
| 13:12.52 | Crofton|home | I need an image that uses the LCD on teh OSK |
| 13:13.00 | Crofton|home | the x11 ones are to large to flash |
| 13:13.15 | Crofton|home | I think the overwrite u-boot when you load them into RAM :) |
| 13:13.41 | Crofton|home | I will pull those images from the supported list in a minute |
| 13:14.26 | hrw | how much flash you have? |
| 13:14.39 | Crofton|home | in OSK? 32M |
| 13:14.57 | Crofton|home | the image should fit in flash, but I think u-boot is loading u-boot in a "bad" place |
| 13:16.08 | koen | uboot puts the entire image in ram for some weird reason |
| 13:16.31 | Crofton|home | well, I copy image into ram via tftp, then copy from RAM into flash |
| 13:16.41 | Crofton|home | the tftp load fails for larger images |
| 13:16.57 | Crofton|home | for now, we will support the console images for angstrom |
| 13:17.21 | Crofton|home | until I (or hopefully someone else) gets interested enough to solve the problem :) |
| 13:17.24 | hrw | you can select address for which uboot tftp load iirc |
| 13:17.47 | koen | Crofton|home: I hope CELF gives up access to the testlab |
| 13:17.49 | Crofton|home | yes, but I think the the problem is u-boot loads into the middle of RAM .... |
| 13:18.00 | Crofton|home | I'll read that email later |
| 13:20.19 | Crofton|home | global warming is over, we have snow today |
| 13:24.29 | likewise | koen: I talked with Tim about this during ELCE, I can poll him for this. |
| 13:25.14 | koen | likewise: check you gmail :) |
| 13:25.33 | likewise | Crofton|home: which tftp server is on your host? some do not cope with transaction id number roll-over. |
| 13:26.06 | koen | sweet, binary localegen no longer takes 2 hours |
| 13:27.06 | Crofton|home | whatever came with fedora |
| 13:32.07 | Crofton|home | for now, I'll keep it out of the distributed images until we figure out why it won't flash |
| 13:39.44 | steliosk | in the bootmisc script we run ldconfig to update the dynamic libary case. I believe this is not need it when using uclibc |
| 13:39.47 | CIA-33 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfa7d169d... 10/ (1 contrib/angstrom/build-release.sh): |
| 13:39.47 | CIA-33 | build-release.sh: rewritten Ångström autobuilder script |
| 13:39.47 | CIA-33 | - one function for building |
| 13:39.47 | CIA-33 | - uclibc is switchable in one place |
| 13:39.47 | CIA-33 | - simple function to give info about success of build |
| 13:39.51 | CIA-33 | 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r13898b09... 10/ (1 contrib/angstrom/build-release.sh): angstrom/build-release.sh : Remove graphics support from omap5912osk until flashing large image problem solved. |
| 13:46.15 | koen | " OpenEmbedded configuration files used to build the Angstrom Linux image." |
| 13:47.12 | likewise | koen: Initiating world dominance |
| 13:47.19 | likewise | sequence started |
| 13:48.42 | koen | likewise: http://www.linux4sam.org/twiki/bin/view/Linux4SAM/OpenEmbeddedAngstrom |
| 13:49.23 | koen | hopefully more companies will try angstrom when we have a (stable) release branch |
| 13:50.07 | Crofton|home | not having builds crap out because of changes in .dev is pretty key |
| 13:50.40 | Crofton|home | also being able to manage vendor changes |
| 13:51.08 | Crofton|home | which reminds me, I need to pick through the gumstix stuff again |
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| 14:00.44 | likewise | Crofton|home: that's why companies spend effort on choosing a stable revision, make it more stable, then release products from them. This takes long, and by the time of their release, they are massively behind, and none of their work can be ported over. Classical embedded linux/world syndrom. |
| 14:01.18 | sakoman_ | koen: did I hear stable release is planned? :-) |
| 14:01.31 | koen | sakoman_: for angstrom, yes |
| 14:01.39 | koen | for OE we need some more infrastructure |
| 14:01.58 | sakoman_ | We love angstrom -- a good start! |
| 14:02.10 | sakoman_ | But oe.stable would be really wonderful |
| 14:02.50 | koen | there will be an angstrom release branch before christmas |
| 14:03.07 | koen | sakoman_: under what email address are you reachable nowadays? |
| 14:03.20 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r845f49b0... 10/ (1 contrib/angstrom/build-release.sh): build-release.sh: remove console-image from ixp4xx builds |
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| 14:05.26 | sakoman_ | koen: answered privately |
| 14:07.03 | koen | the mail should be in your inbox |
| 14:08.49 | Crofton|home | hmmm, now the ad on my blog is for a "Thesis Consultant" |
| 14:14.02 | RP | Crofton: Google is trying to tell you something? :) |
| 14:14.21 | RP | Crofton|home: How did it go yesterday? |
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| 14:18.12 | Crofton|home | http://www.balister.org/~balister/card.jpg |
| 14:18.13 | Crofton|home | :) |
| 14:18.18 | Crofton|home | got the signatures |
| 14:18.28 | Crofton|home | some revisions, but allegedly not to bad |
| 14:18.37 | Crofton|home | I need to look at them later' |
| 14:18.54 | DukeOfURL | congrats! |
| 14:18.58 | Crofton|home | thanks |
| 14:19.15 | RP | Crofton|home: congrats :) |
| 14:20.19 | likewise | Crofton|home: hard work pays off, congratulations! |
| 14:22.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3346 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net |
| 14:22.07 | cdbot2 | * * Upstream GCC C compiler bug |
| 14:22.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3346 |
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| 14:22.17 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2993 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net |
| 14:22.19 | cdbot2 | * * eglibc: export-fcntl2.patch no longer needed since svn rev 3468 |
| 14:22.21 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2993 |
| 14:22.28 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2163 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net |
| 14:22.30 | cdbot2 | * * glib-2.0 python variable expansion does not work |
| 14:22.33 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2163 |
| 14:22.34 | DukeOfURL | I'm still unable to make openmoko-devel-image from scratch (make clean). In do_install of pax-utils-native it tries to mkdir /usr/src/armtoolchain. |
| 14:22.41 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2365 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by likewise(AT)gmx.net |
| 14:22.43 | cdbot2 | * * uclibc: can't handle reloc type 0x49 in lib '/lib/libc.so.6' for powerpc/angstrom/uclibc |
| 14:22.45 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2365 |
| 14:22.58 | RP | Crofton|home: So you'll have all this free time now? :) |
| 14:23.11 | Crofton|home | heh |
| 14:23.17 | Crofton|home | my todo list is still long |
| 14:23.18 | DukeOfURL | the /usr/src is owned by root and way outside $OMDIR |
| 14:23.31 | Crofton|home | and I need to convince people to pay me to make it shorter |
| 14:25.38 | DukeOfURL | If an armtoolchain from another project existed in /usr/src, would OE find and try to use it? |
| 14:25.54 | RP | DukeOfURL: only if you told it to |
| 14:26.02 | DukeOfURL | haven't |
| 14:26.11 | RP | is it in PATH? |
| 14:26.37 | DukeOfURL | has anyone tried a build from scratch lately? |
| 14:26.44 | RP | Are you after OE to use it or not? |
| 14:27.03 | RP | DukeOfURL: Depends how you deinfe lately. I made on at the weekend... |
| 14:27.35 | koen | doing a build from scratch now |
| 14:27.40 | DukeOfURL | yes, probably in $PATH |
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| 14:28.35 | steliosk | boa (the webserver) needs an entry in the /etc/hosts file to work. The entry looks like 'hostname' 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 . I was thinking of adding it during the boa install but do you think it would be good to have an entry like that by default in the rootfs ? |
| 14:28.59 | steliosk | it maps the hostname to the localhost ip |
| 14:29.44 | steliosk | it could be generated by base-files |
| 14:29.53 | RP | steliosk: How about using the "localhost" name? |
| 14:30.12 | broonie | That can break other software. |
| 14:31.40 | RP | broonie: hostname, localhost or both? |
| 14:32.18 | broonie | hostname->127.0.0.1 mapping. |
| 14:32.51 | RP | right |
| 14:33.26 | RP | steliosk: I can't give you a concrete reason but it also makes me nervous |
| 14:34.20 | broonie | The failure mode is that things that want to resolve the hostname to an IP address end up resolving the localhost address and using it where it is inappropriate to do so. |
| 14:34.45 | XorA | preferable solution, fix boa |
| 14:35.26 | broonie | boa will only need this workaround while resolution of hostname is broken; unfortunately that's likely to be a common case for embedded kit :( |
| 14:35.42 | DukeOfURL | RP: Thank you. Removing the other armtoolchain from $PATH allows openmoko-devel-image to proceed. |
| 14:35.54 | XorA | well for angstrom you can always use hostname.local as the hostname as avahi is up and running |
| 14:37.05 | XorA | boa doesnt happen to be a redhat project? |
| 14:37.46 | steliosk | boa is using gethostbyname to try and resolve things |
| 14:37.55 | broonie | Right; it needs to cope with gethostbyname() failing. |
| 14:44.08 | steliosk | broonie : hmmm the only thing i can think of right now is to add a non caching dns like dnsmasq to run before boa and set up name resolution. I haven;t seen any patces to resolve the gethostbyname() |
| 14:44.24 | steliosk | are there any ? |
| 14:45.16 | broonie | I've no idea about the boa codebase in particular, sorry. It should be fairly straightforward to write something, though. |
| 14:49.01 | hrw | ~curse intel 855 chipset |
| 14:49.02 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, intel 855 chipset ! |
| 14:50.23 | hrw | intelfb does not works (bios tells that only ~800K ram for gfx is available), vesafb works nice but if you start X11 on intel driver then too often it means "goodbye framebuffer" :( |
| 14:50.53 | hrw | and 1024x768 on 20" wide lcd looks a bit weird |
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| 15:13.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3427 has been created by likewise(AT)gmx.net |
| 15:13.06 | cdbot2 | * * Add LED classCPU activity trigger |
| 15:13.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3427 |
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| 15:36.21 | steliosk | broonie : I think i found a way to solve the issue . By entering Servername "127.0.0.1" in the boa.conf it starts fine :) |
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| 15:36.41 | steliosk | and works with whatever ip box has |
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| 15:37.17 | broonie | Ideally it'd be able to use that as a fallback if normal resolution failed. |
| 15:41.06 | broonie | c |
| 15:55.02 | lumag | bye! |
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| 16:19.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2124 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by r.farina(AT)adelphia.net |
| 16:19.06 | cdbot2 | * * Angstrom on akita can't login via gpe-login/xdm |
| 16:19.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2124 |
| 16:21.23 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 16:21.25 | mickeyl | Crofton|home: ping |
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| 16:26.39 | koen | re |
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| 16:27.06 | Tartarus | Hmm |
| 16:27.14 | Tartarus | Can PR be overriden in local.conf? |
| 16:27.15 | koen | mickeyl: is expect part of python 2.5 or an external module? |
| 16:27.28 | Tartarus | (I'm trying to add something like a build number to every package) |
| 16:27.44 | mickeyl | koen: external, there's python-pexpect iirc |
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| 16:28.08 | sirfred | Hi |
| 16:28.25 | koen | mickeyl: did you see xkcd.com today? |
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| 16:29.03 | hvontres|work | koen: I see you made extra sure which kernel gets into poodle images :) |
| 16:29.38 | mickeyl | koen: not yet. chekcing... |
| 16:29.42 | hvontres|work | koen: I was thinking of you when I saw that xkcd :) |
| 16:30.10 | mickeyl | koen: hahaha, i love that |
| 16:30.13 | mickeyl | :D |
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| 16:31.59 | sirfred | It seems that bug 3363 is also hitting gcc-cross-4.2.2. Are you also suffering it? |
| 16:33.26 | sirfred | Not exactly the same problem, but fortran related though |
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| 16:38.45 | koen | "Wow plays fine on my current machine, and it would be nice to play it on a laptop, but for $4500.00 I can pay a sherpa to carry my desktop where ever I go." |
| 16:39.37 | hvontres|work | koen: But what about the second sherpa for the Generator |
| 16:39.49 | koen | dunno, I don't play wow :) |
| 16:40.23 | hvontres|work | koen: heh. Real Geeks(tm) play nethack |
| 16:40.34 | koen | don't play that either :) |
| 16:41.01 | koen | I haven't played a computer game in like a year or so |
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| 16:41.23 | koen | ah, it does |
| 16:41.46 | koen | ~curse mac games not being universal binaries |
| 16:41.47 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, mac games not being universal binaries ! |
| 16:41.51 | hvontres|work | koen: hehe... well the last game I played was Candyland with my 3 year old :) |
| 16:42.16 | hvontres|work | and I lost |
| 16:43.27 | Genesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.57 | sirfred | What should the variable ${layout_exec_prefix} expand to? |
| 16:47.23 | sirfred | It gives me nothing under an interactive bitbake session, and I think that's the source of my problem with gcc-cross, as --with-mpfr=${STAGING_DIR_NATIVE}${layout_exec_prefix} resolves to --with-mpfr=${STAGING_DIR_NATIVE} and hence, not able to find libmpfr |
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| 16:50.22 | koen | does anyone know a cheap source for a serial/usb controlled poweroutlet? |
| 16:50.38 | koen | 230V |
| 16:52.15 | sirfred | Probably replacing layout_exec_prefix with layout_libdir should be enough, but would be great to understand what I'm doing actually :-) |
| 16:52.36 | hrw | I would like to find ATX PSU with more sata connectors |
| 16:59.01 | koen | well, 3, if you count the one in my laptop |
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| 17:05.09 | hrw | I have 2 |
| 17:05.24 | hrw | and I am out of connectors because someone decided to put both on one wire |
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| 17:19.41 | koen | koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux$ tail -f ~/OE/build/autobuilder.log |
| 17:19.41 | koen | minimal-image (glibc) built for ep93xx |
| 17:19.41 | koen | console-image (glibc) built for ep93xx |
| 17:20.53 | hrw | nice |
| 17:21.29 | koen | build from scratch |
| 17:21.30 | hrw | now give small rss for it and it will fly ;d |
| 17:21.40 | koen | :) |
| 17:21.59 | hrw | koen: btw - do not import qemu from Poky yet - I disabled new version again |
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| 17:22.45 | hrw | koen: btw - ever heard of buildbot? you get www interface for builder automatically |
| 17:23.01 | koen | I don't like buildbot |
| 17:23.08 | koen | and I lack the skill to fix tinderclient |
| 17:24.02 | otavio | I'd like to ask to someone to take a look at bugs: #3371 #3372 and #3373 (all them has patches included) |
| 17:24.24 | otavio | I'd like to send some more patches that I've here but would be nice to have those in, first |
| 17:25.36 | Crofton|work | I have heard of buildbot |
| 17:25.47 | Crofton|work | I suspect you would like, if you are a python due |
| 17:25.53 | Crofton|work | make that python dude |
| 17:26.17 | otavio | Crofton|work: I already uesd buildbot and it works really nice :-) |
| 17:26.26 | hrw | I was able to run buildbot without going into python |
| 17:26.29 | koen | buildbots biggest flaw is that you have to tell it what to do |
| 17:26.38 | otavio | Crofton|work: I've also used bitten that integrates fine on Trac too |
| 17:26.39 | Crofton|work | I think it is ok for simple things |
| 17:26.46 | Crofton|work | bitten? |
| 17:26.56 | otavio | Crofton|work: yes. It's a plugin to Trac ... |
| 17:27.13 | otavio | Crofton|work: I think that buildbot suits better for OE but bitten is nice too |
| 17:28.07 | otavio | Crofton|work: bitten.cmlenz.net IIRC |
| 17:28.07 | hrw | koen: for your autobuilder you also have to |
| 17:28.35 | koen | hrw: but all clients continie building the buildmaster is offline |
| 17:28.43 | koen | which you can't do with buildbot |
| 17:28.52 | koen | it's just way to centralized for my liking |
| 17:29.01 | otavio | koen: yes ... but buildmaster shouldn't be offline ;-) |
| 17:29.41 | otavio | koen: well, in an ideal world it wouldn't even build itself but just coordinate it all |
| 17:30.28 | koen | the purpose of the OE tinderbox is that people can join in when they want |
| 17:30.36 | koen | you can't do that with buildbot |
| 17:31.51 | hrw | I know |
| 17:31.52 | otavio | koen: you'd need to provide an way to "register" on the master. But just it ... |
| 17:32.02 | otavio | koen: wouldn't it be enough? |
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| 17:32.26 | hrw | otavio: buildbot tell slaves what do build. tinderbox listen and show what people build |
| 17:32.38 | hrw | otavio: totally other things |
| 17:32.41 | otavio | hrw: ah, in inversed |
| 17:32.52 | otavio | hrw: inversed way of view things |
| 17:33.13 | otavio | hrw: yes. master does coordinate it all |
| 17:33.24 | hrw | buildbot is nice thing if you want to do repeatable builds |
| 17:33.35 | hrw | tinderbox is just to show what people build |
| 17:33.36 | otavio | So could someone take a look on those three bugs? |
| 17:35.44 | hrw | ok |
| 17:37.14 | koen | otavio: #3371 doesn't apply |
| 17:37.51 | koen | b/packages/openrdate/ is not a valid path |
| 17:38.05 | hrw | koen: I took care about 3371 |
| 17:38.57 | CIA-33 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r0fb6c6e1... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): python 2.5.1 enable and package ctypes module/package. closes #3368 -- thanks emdete! |
| 17:39.01 | koen | 3372 doesn't apply as well |
| 17:39.28 | mickeyl | hmm i guess i fixed more bug entries this week than together in one year |
| 17:39.38 | otavio | koen: openrdate is a new path |
| 17:39.39 | mickeyl | need to do this regularly |
| 17:39.53 | koen | otavio: and the patch creates the wrong path |
| 17:39.59 | otavio | koen: using patch -p1? |
| 17:40.25 | hrw | mickeyl: there was idea of BSW... |
| 17:40.43 | koen | otavio: why? patches are always in p0 format |
| 17:40.59 | otavio | koen: not mines since I export them from GIT |
| 17:42.00 | otavio | koen: are you talking serious? |
| 17:42.06 | hrw | otavio: we prefer 'mtn diff' patchhes |
| 17:42.07 | koen | yes |
| 17:42.28 | otavio | hrw: I'm not confortable with monotone and very used to GIT |
| 17:42.41 | otavio | hrw: would be too hard to apply it and commit? |
| 17:43.00 | hrw | it just depend on how much time does developer prefer to spend |
| 17:43.10 | otavio | hrw: that's crazy. I'm not asking anybody to change anything just to apply a diff and commit |
| 17:44.00 | otavio | almost all patches inside of OE recipes are -p1 and koen wonders about this cuple of patches ... |
| 17:44.06 | otavio | sorry but it looks insane |
| 17:44.20 | hrw | patching file firefox-2.0.0.3/mozconfig |
| 17:44.20 | hrw | can't find file to patch at input line 290 |
| 17:44.27 | koen | mtn diffs are p0 |
| 17:44.37 | koen | we want mtn diffs |
| 17:44.40 | koen | how's that hard? |
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| 17:45.41 | otavio | koen: to me, a lot. I don't ues mnt and neither has an update database of it. I export the patches from GIT and use stgit to remove them once them are included on mainline and that makes easy to handle with the patch queue while they aren't included mainline |
| 17:45.52 | otavio | koen: I'm not used to it |
| 17:45.57 | koen | we use mtn for OE |
| 17:46.16 | koen | if you want to make it difficult for yourself by using git, that's your choice |
| 17:46.19 | otavio | koen: and since I have not commit right, I thought a patch would be enough |
| 17:46.41 | koen | don't go whining to OE developers if they don't want to go to extra trouble |
| 17:47.20 | chouimat|work | koen: :) |
| 17:47.41 | otavio | that's not the problem. If the patch is broken I can work it out and prepare a new one but just a p0 to p1 worring is crazy, imho |
| 17:47.58 | otavio | hrw: let me check the firefox one |
| 17:48.42 | hrw | otavio: its in already |
| 17:48.57 | hrw | otavio: I had local change |
| 17:50.13 | otavio | hrw: ah ok nice |
| 17:51.08 | otavio | hrw: http://people.debian.org/~otavio/OE/patches/cmake-add-2-4-7 http://people.debian.org/~otavio/OE/patches/linux-rp-do-not-fail-if-the-ke and http://people.debian.org/~otavio/OE/patches/xkbdata-add-1-0-1 are ready too |
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| 17:52.23 | otavio | hrw: want me to report bugs for those too or you could apply them? |
| 17:52.30 | Genesis | i wrote my first true bbclass :') |
| 17:52.46 | Genesis | it was a bit hard , but it's full of joice :o) |
| 17:52.49 | hrw | http://people.debian.org/~otavio/OE/patches/linux-rp-do-not-fail-if-the-ke is nice |
| 17:52.54 | hrw | otavio: report |
| 17:53.24 | hrw | this part of code I would like to have in kernel.bbclass instead ;) |
| 17:55.40 | otavio | hrw: but it then would need to change linux-rp completely to use this from kernel.bbclass wouldn't it? |
| 17:56.19 | hrw | yes |
| 17:56.25 | hrw | but I am one of linux-rp maintainer |
| 17:56.26 | hrw | s |
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| 17:56.34 | otavio | hrw: since koen had problems to apply #3372 patch, could you apply it too? |
| 17:56.48 | otavio | hrw: OK. I could take a look and prepare something next days |
| 17:56.58 | hrw | otavio: 3372 is in OE now |
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| 17:57.08 | otavio | hrw: not closed yet |
| 17:57.09 | hrw | or not.. |
| 17:57.16 | hrw | 3372 is libxcb one... |
| 17:57.19 | hrw | I missed it |
| 17:57.22 | otavio | hrw: have you commited it? |
| 17:57.23 | otavio | hrw: ok |
| 17:57.25 | otavio | hrw: please do |
| 17:57.34 | otavio | hrw: and thanks |
| 17:57.55 | otavio | hrw: once I finish this prototype I can take a look on the kernel.bbclass change |
| 17:58.28 | hvontres|work | hrw: If you get a chance, could jyou take a look at |
| 17:58.57 | hvontres|work | hrw :http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3397 and let me know what you think? |
| 17:59.55 | otavio | looking at kernel.bbclass I think other linux recipes would be affected, no? |
| 18:02.16 | hrw | hvontres|work: packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.17/poodle_serial_vcc.patch is nice. can you refresh it for git head and submit to lakml? |
| 18:02.23 | CIA-33 | 03otavio 07org.oe.dev * r1a6625be... 10/ (15 files in 10 dirs): firefox: fix firefox 2.0.0.3 building - close #3372 |
| 18:02.23 | CIA-33 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r99925725... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): ecore|evas cvs update |
| 18:07.41 | hrw | mickeyl: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3418 - can you? |
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| 18:10.21 | mickeyl | *assigning* |
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| 18:17.14 | hvontres|work | hrw: Is there a how-to for that somewhere? This is my first voyage into kernel stuff |
| 18:18.21 | hrw | hvontres|work: linux/Documentation/SubmittingPatches |
| 18:18.43 | hvontres|work | hrw: thanks. |
| 18:18.53 | Crofton|work | christ the openwrt guys are almost as unpleasant as we are |
| 18:19.15 | Crofton|work | I was having a density related issue with trx versus bin files :) |
| 18:21.21 | hvontres|work | hrw: I'd like to try to get the kexec related stuff pushed soon so that the autobuilder can pick it up. It makes root-on-SD systems work pretty well |
| 18:22.32 | hrw | Crofton|work: which device you want to flash? |
| 18:22.51 | Crofton|work | wrtsl54 |
| 18:22.55 | Crofton|work | I have it done now |
| 18:23.10 | hrw | trx are bin + header iirc |
| 18:23.25 | Crofton|work | yeah |
| 18:23.47 | Crofton|work | and header is used by webinterfaces to figure out if it is ok to flash trx |
| 18:23.49 | hrw | Crofton|work: install x-wrt web frontend |
| 18:24.07 | Crofton|work | I think I am going again |
| 18:24.09 | hrw | Crofton|work: and some devices require that header (not wrt ones) |
| 18:24.15 | Crofton|work | kk didn;t work on the wrtsl54 |
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| 18:24.29 | hrw | x-wrt is great frontend for openwrt |
| 18:25.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3368 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by mlauer(AT)vanille-media.de |
| 18:25.07 | cdbot2 | * * python 2.5 is not build with ctypes on arm |
| 18:25.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3368 |
| 18:25.22 | Crofton|work | I tend to get the routers set up then leave them alone forever ... |
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| 18:33.16 | likewise | hello all |
| 18:33.22 | hrw | hi likewise |
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| 18:34.56 | likewise | hrw: hello, how's life in .pl |
| 18:35.15 | hrw | likewise: good, thx |
| 18:35.29 | hrw | likewise: but do not ask me about weather - I work at home |
| 18:35.53 | likewise | hrw: for the reason of extremely bad weather? Or are you enjoying the sun? :-) |
| 18:36.02 | likewise | Let me guess... |
| 18:36.25 | likewise | snow or storms? |
| 18:38.48 | hrw | likewise: and I have redecoration at home now |
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| 18:38.52 | hrw | hi Lorn |
| 18:39.23 | likewise | hi Crofton |
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| 19:02.13 | CIA-33 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8d6f2bff... 10/ (1 packages/pimlico/contacts.inc): contacts: added libowl dependency - close #3377 |
| 19:02.30 | CIA-33 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2d067cd2... 10/ (1 packages/efl1/evas_cvs.bb packages/efl1/ewl_cvs.bb): evas|ewl cvs explicitly enable the software-x11-16 engine now that it's more stable |
| 19:02.37 | CIA-33 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc2307b4d... 10/ (1 packages/pimlico/dates.inc): dates: added libowl dependency - close #3417 |
| 19:04.47 | hrw | bye |
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| 19:16.03 | lumag | hi! |
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| 19:28.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3371 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 19:28.07 | cdbot2 | * * openrdate recipe |
| 19:28.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3371 |
| 19:28.17 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3373 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 19:28.19 | cdbot2 | * * fix firefox 2.0.0.3 building |
| 19:28.21 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3373 |
| 19:30.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3377 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 19:30.06 | cdbot2 | * * contacts-0.7-r1-do_compile |
| 19:30.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3377 |
| 19:30.16 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3417 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 19:30.18 | cdbot2 | * * dates-0.4.4-r2-do_compile |
| 19:30.20 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3417 |
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| 20:06.37 | flo_lap | re |
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| 20:23.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3428 has been created by andrea.adami(AT)gmail.com |
| 20:23.06 | cdbot2 | * * preferred xserver-kdrive-imageon for c7x0 |
| 20:23.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3428 |
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| 20:51.46 | pH5 | Khem: you were right, I can't reproduce yesterday's problem on a build from scratch. |
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| 21:13.04 | hvontres|work | ~seen RP |
| 21:13.07 | ibot | rp is currently on #maemo (1d 18h 47m 49s) #handhelds (1d 18h 47m 49s) #oe (1d 18h 47m 49s) #openmoko (1d 18h 47m 49s) #openzaurus (1d 18h 47m 49s). Has said a total of 76 messages. Is idling for 6h 39m 41s, last said: 'steliosk: I can't give you a concrete reason but it also makes me nervous'. |
| 21:14.42 | Khem | pH5: cool |
| 21:18.28 | pH5 | Khem: thanks anyway. sorry to have bothered you with that :) |
| 21:19.39 | Khem | p |
| 21:19.54 | Khem | pH5: no problem :) |
| 21:42.20 | jekhor | Hi. I trying to create small distro for my ARM-based hardware, but configuring of packet glibc-intermediate-2.5 fails because of missing arm-linux-gcc. gcc-cross-initial built succesfully. Can anybody help or point me proper documentation? |
| 21:46.01 | likewise | jekhor: what happens if you perform bitbake "gcc-cross" |
| 21:55.03 | jekhor | likewise, building of glibc-intermediate-2.5-r8 failed with same reason |
| 21:55.41 | jekhor | | *** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc |
| 21:56.06 | jekhor | and in configure's output: | checking for arm-linux-gcc... ccache arm-linux-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t |
| 21:58.22 | likewise | jekhor: did you build existing distro's before you tried this? |
| 21:59.47 | jekhor | yes, openmoko builds normally |
| 22:07.11 | likewise | jekhor: I cannot help you any further, haven't tried specifying my distro yet. |
| 22:07.27 | jekhor | :) |
| 22:08.22 | jekhor | ok, I will read other simple distros configs... |
| 22:08.25 | likewise | jekhor: Have you took one of the existing distro's as a basis? |
| 22:08.33 | likewise | s/took/taken |
| 22:10.38 | jekhor | Yes, but I not sure :) It was some days ago. |
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| 22:36.28 | ant | hi |
| 22:37.04 | ant | out of curiosity...how many GB of disk are needed for the complete tree |
| 22:37.15 | ant | ant built with autobuilder ? |
| 22:38.25 | ant | mmhh... koen is not here... |
| 22:40.52 | ant | in wiki/GettingStarted I read 35GB for world...actual? |
| 22:41.11 | mwester | That wouldn't surprise me. |
| 22:45.28 | ant | Only for c7x0 minimal + console + altboot-console + x11 + x11-gpe + x11-pimlico = 8.4 GB |
| 22:45.32 | ant | [arklinux@localhost oe]$ du -sh |
| 22:45.32 | ant | 8.4G . |
| 22:45.51 | ant | with sources |
| 22:48.47 | ant | BTW sources are only 361M |
| 22:49.42 | ant | all above only for c7x0 |
| 22:52.56 | jilles | disks are cheap, and keeping some old tmp dirs can be useful |
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| 23:07.17 | gcl | newbie question: I'm seeing this message when trying to build minimal-image: |
| 23:07.19 | gcl | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-boot |
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| 23:07.23 | gcl | base-passwd busybox initscripts modutils-initscripts netbase udev sysvinit sysvinit-pidof tinylogin |
| 23:07.35 | Fique | morning all |
| 23:08.27 | gcl | yet I've got ipk's for all those packages |
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