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| 01:13.36 | mickey|bbiab | RP: ping |
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| 01:27.49 | CIA-33 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra861d7ae... 10/ (1 packages/libsndfile/libsndfile1_1.0.17.bb): |
| 01:27.49 | CIA-33 | libsndfile 1.0.17 needs an ugly hardcoded hack for some autofoo variables otherwise it silently fails on |
| 01:27.49 | CIA-33 | runtime. all the ugly low level research done by graeme@openmoko.org - thanks! |
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| 01:33.24 | Crofton|home | hi mickey|bbiab |
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| 02:35.52 | zecke | ljp: ping |
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| 02:38.50 | ljp | pong |
| 02:41.09 | zecke | ljp: is your image supposed to work on a v3 device? I run into an alsa assert on start |
| 02:41.54 | ljp | hmm |
| 02:42.08 | ljp | dont know why it would be different |
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| 02:47.19 | zecke | ljp: which kernel do I need for your image? |
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| 02:49.46 | zecke | ljp: could you point the uImage somewhere where I can download it, the 31mb of the initial neo image are a bit too much for this link here |
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| 03:24.53 | Oryx | Anyone familiar with udev? I'm trying to figure out how to adjust the automounting features and understand the blacklist file |
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| 07:18.15 | summatusmentis | is there a way to redownload a source package? |
| 07:19.00 | CoreDump | rm the old one + its md5 |
| 07:19.39 | summatusmentis | thanks CoreDump |
| 07:19.49 | CoreDump | np |
| 07:21.52 | summatusmentis | except... doesn't seem to be redownloading the file, just the md5 |
| 07:23.35 | NAbyss | summatusmentis: rm tmp/stamps/...? |
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| 07:25.26 | NAbyss | Hm, one of my housemates is looking for a device to act as a mini router.. well, provide ppp over bluetooth at least.. a device that can run as a usb host + bluetooth with OE.. can anyone recommend any hardware? |
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| 07:30.33 | CoreDump | NAbyss: linksys NSLU2 fits your profile |
| 07:31.02 | CoreDump | <80$ IIRC |
| 07:32.41 | NAbyss | CoreDump: Cool, thanks |
| 07:33.01 | CoreDump | np |
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| 08:45.53 | likewise | gm |
| 08:48.33 | CoreDump | morning likewise |
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| 09:03.40 | RP | mickey|bbiab: pong |
| 09:03.51 | RP | mickey|bbiab: Have you an example of something that broke? |
| 09:04.41 | likewise | I'ld like to unbreak something: | The external toolchain could not be found in /usr/local/angstrom/powerpc! |
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| 09:06.04 | RP | likewise: Using angstrom? |
| 09:06.07 | Genesis | yo people |
| 09:06.16 | likewise | RP: yes. |
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| 09:12.11 | RP | likewise: Which bitbake version are you using? |
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| 09:13.58 | likewise | RP: 1.8.8 rev 936 |
| 09:14.39 | ant|work | morning all |
| 09:14.50 | Genesis | everybody uses angstrom \o/ |
| 09:15.27 | RP | Perhaps bitbake trunk wasn't the best way to test this :/ |
| 09:15.59 | ant|work | night rebuild for c7x0 was successful |
| 09:16.18 | ant|work | but always nasty NOTEs |
| 09:16.20 | ant|work | http://www.pastebin.org/10378 |
| 09:16.28 | RP | Ah, 1.8.9 will work better for this than 1.8.8 :/ |
| 09:16.53 | ant|work | built with 1.8.9 |
| 09:17.56 | likewise | RP: So, 1.8.9 is now required? |
| 09:18.12 | likewise | RP: which is an unstable release series, right? |
| 09:18.36 | RP | likewise: It won't give the error you're getting as the provider mechanism was made more sane |
| 09:18.53 | RP | likewise: Its the svn head of the stable branch |
| 09:20.11 | RP | I can add something to angstrom that should fix this for 1.8.8 too... |
| 09:20.45 | RP | likewise, XorA: The other way to solve this is: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_linux-libc-headers = "linux-libc-headers" |
| 09:20.45 | RP | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}binutils = "binutils-cross" |
| 09:20.52 | RP | in local.conf |
| 09:22.01 | likewise | RP: thanks. It's hard to track BitBake/OE interdependencies for me. I have been looking at this in OE metadata alone... |
| 09:23.07 | RP | likewise: We set the minimum version in OE which is currently 1.8.8 so it should work, its just bad luck it currently doesn't quite :( |
| 09:24.09 | likewise | RP: ok, well, thanks for caring about this. It's good to see progress on the meta / sdk stuff, I'll take the bleeding for that. You sharpen the edge. |
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| 09:28.48 | ant|work | ERROR: Multiple files due to be built which all provide virtual/xserver |
| 09:28.56 | ant|work | wasn't this solved? |
| 09:30.06 | ant|work | leaving imageon and removing older w100 stuff? |
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| 09:31.14 | koen | good morning all |
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| 09:32.57 | RP | morning koen |
| 09:33.21 | RP | koen: Can I add a couple of PREFERRED_PROVIDERs to angstrom to stop external-toolchain breaking things for bitbake 1.8.8 users? |
| 09:33.46 | koen | sure |
| 09:34.28 | cdm | but I don't have anything intelligent to ask yet! :) |
| 09:34.45 | RP | cdm: You looked at the external-toolchain.bb file? |
| 09:35.50 | likewise | good morgen koen |
| 09:35.50 | cdm | RP -- sec |
| 09:35.57 | koen | likewise: half negen is veeeel te vroeg voor college ;) |
| 09:36.01 | likewise | hello cdm |
| 09:36.20 | likewise | koen: zelfs voor werk, zit er een beetje doorheen hier (ook al was het half tien) |
| 09:36.51 | cdm | RP -- hurm, is that somewhat new? |
| 09:36.52 | RP | likewise: mtn up should fix your problem |
| 09:37.07 | likewise | RP: thank a bunch! |
| 09:37.11 | likewise | +s |
| 09:37.19 | RP | cdm: yes, new as of a couple of days ago |
| 09:37.55 | cdm | ahhh |
| 09:37.56 | cdm | thanks |
| 09:38.39 | RP | cdm: Can I ask which toolchain you're using? |
| 09:38.39 | cdm | where abouts does it live in the tree? |
| 09:38.51 | cdm | RP: sure -- the latest code sourcery drop |
| 09:39.06 | CIA-33 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8c692ec4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): angstrom: Define some extra PREFERRED_PROVIDERs to ensure external-toolchain isn't touched |
| 09:39.07 | RP | cdm: Poky has a .bb file for an older csl toolchain too |
| 09:39.14 | RP | cdm: packages/meta |
| 09:39.35 | cdm | yeah, I saw the old one. |
| 09:41.05 | cdm | that's a great reference! thanks |
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| 09:43.58 | koen | likewise: which kernel are you using on your efika nowadays? |
| 09:44.12 | cdm | One thing I am unclear about, who generates the shlibs/ files? |
| 09:44.27 | hvontres1home | RP:sorry, my wireless needed to be kicked. |
| 09:45.03 | RP | cdm: Usually package.bbclass although with an external toolchain, the external toolchain .bb needs to |
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| 09:46.53 | cdm | RP: ahhh -- is that how you actually make the ipk's depend on the toolchain runtime? |
| 09:49.33 | hvontres1home | time for bed |
| 09:50.53 | ant|work | koen: morning |
| 09:50.58 | ant|work | koen: may I ask you about something really puzzles me since long time? |
| 09:51.04 | koen | sure |
| 09:51.20 | ant|work | koen: it's about make -j4 |
| 09:51.32 | ant|work | koen: I'd use -j3 |
| 09:51.47 | ant|work | koen: on parallel |
| 09:52.08 | ant|work | koen: it's proved faster |
| 09:52.27 | koen | I use the 2*(Ncpu) rule of thumb |
| 09:52.47 | ant|work | koen: Nr cpu + 1 ... was so for the last 20 years... |
| 09:53.18 | koen | on my build machine -j4 is faster than -j3 for most builds |
| 09:53.26 | ant|work | koen: but today perhaps has changed.... |
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| 09:53.40 | koen | thanks to fast scsi disks :) |
| 09:54.08 | ant|work | koen: I use SCSI and 2 cpu since 1990 |
| 09:54.17 | ant|work | koen: 2x P133 |
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| 09:54.28 | ant|work | koen: :-) |
| 09:55.16 | ant|work | koen: I'll check the build time on core2 dual with both flags and let you know |
| 09:56.45 | ant|work | koen: BTW how is developing on Tiger? |
| 09:57.24 | ant|work | koen: would you suggest it as *easy* testbed? |
| 09:59.24 | likewise | koen: I am using the -CFS patched kernel for my EFIKA, let me check. |
| 09:59.56 | likewise | koen: linux-efika_2.6.20.20.bb |
| 10:00.25 | likewise | koen: should bring it to .23 or .24 soon |
| 10:00.26 | koen | ant|work: I have leopard, but I am not a developer |
| 10:00.48 | koen | likewise: I have 2.6.20.20-cfs as well |
| 10:00.56 | koen | likewise: but I think I messed up OF |
| 10:01.17 | ant|work | koen: good to know Leopard works |
| 10:01.32 | likewise | koen: the OF non-volatile stuff? |
| 10:01.53 | koen | likewise: dunno, it tries to execute something bogus as bootscript |
| 10:02.11 | koen | and the only thing I ever typed into OF was 'boot efika-kernel' |
| 10:02.21 | koen | maybe some garbage on serial or something |
| 10:03.32 | likewise | koen: does it reproduce (same garbage every time)? |
| 10:04.06 | koen | it looks like something echos the serial output back to OF |
| 10:04.13 | koen | and OF output isn't valid OF input |
| 10:05.17 | likewise | koen: eek. could be cable, shortcut, or your terminal program echo'ing back. |
| 10:05.51 | cdm | RP: what phase is that normally done? |
| 10:06.01 | cdm | the generation of the shlib files. |
| 10:08.25 | cdm | do_stage or do_install? |
| 10:10.43 | RP | cdm: As I said earlier, do_package |
| 10:10.55 | RP | cdm: See package.bbclass |
| 10:12.31 | cdm | so I see in there where it looks in the files to generate dependancies |
| 10:13.04 | cdm | but I don't see where it generates those files or their contents -- but I must be daft. |
| 10:14.23 | cdm | n/m |
| 10:14.25 | cdm | see it now |
| 10:15.05 | urmelZAUS|work | I have a question with angstrom distro. The kernel in use is a 2.6.22. But during boot I get an error "WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.22: No such file or directory" and in the /lib/modules is only an 2.6.20 directory. |
| 10:19.34 | RP | mickey|bbiab: I just bitbake'd python-pycario and twisted and both built fine :/ |
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| 10:26.10 | RP | mickey|bbiab: and python-pyopenssl. You'd best tell me what fails ;-) |
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| 10:36.15 | cdm | RP: thanks -- I figured out how to coax package.bbclass to find the bits it was missing before. |
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| 10:50.18 | florian | good monring |
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| 10:53.15 | lumag | hi! |
| 10:54.45 | RP | hi mickeyl |
| 10:56.18 | steliosk | mickeyl : hi ! |
| 10:57.03 | steliosk | mickeyl : any chance to get the pdf's from you or should i proceed and send the rest of invoices ? |
| 11:01.40 | mickeyl | could be there in a couple of minutes |
| 11:01.49 | mickeyl | now where does these scans go... |
| 11:02.26 | steliosk | skoroneos at digital-opsis dot com |
| 11:07.22 | mickeyl | ok, i think they're now on my usb stick |
| 11:08.15 | XorA | koen: without Leoptard I assume :-) |
| 11:09.09 | mickeyl | hmm hey this scanner rocks |
| 11:09.11 | mickeyl | it can scan to usb |
| 11:09.15 | mickeyl | without a PC |
| 11:09.17 | mickeyl | and it works (tm) |
| 11:09.33 | mickeyl | RP: pleaes try anything distutils that compiles external modules, i.e. python-pyxml or python-pysoappy |
| 11:10.35 | koen | RP: there's a small flaw in packaged-staging2.bbclass: do_deploy gets skipped, so you can't build e.g zaurus or neo images |
| 11:11.10 | mickeyl | steliosk: sent! :D |
| 11:11.28 | XorA | koen: no-one uses those machine anyway :-) |
| 11:11.30 | RP | koen: Yes, I mentioned it in the notes. Whilst it gets skipped, if it didn't it would have to build the kernel to have a kernel to deploy |
| 11:12.20 | RP | mickeyl: ok, so I didn't break all distutils ;-) |
| 11:12.28 | koen | RP: it just highlights the big flaw in the current do_deploy methods |
| 11:12.42 | RP | koen: Its a flaw? |
| 11:12.54 | RP | or is the flaw in packaged-staging? |
| 11:13.19 | RP | We could put deploy/images under staging control... |
| 11:13.36 | koen | most do_deploy methods go around install and staging for no apparent reason |
| 11:13.51 | RP | mickeyl: NOTE: package python-pyxml-0.8.4-ml0: task do_build: completed |
| 11:15.16 | RP | koen: That isn't really true... |
| 11:15.32 | RP | koen: stage and install never touch deploy/images |
| 11:17.09 | koen | RP: we could just have do_deploy get its stuff either from a generated packages (e.g. zImage from kernel-image.{ipk,deb}) or from staging |
| 11:17.09 | RP | mickeyl: NOTE: package python-soappy-0.11.6-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 11:17.15 | esben | argh, multiple heads. |
| 11:17.27 | koen | yay, OE automerger! |
| 11:17.38 | esben | XorA and rpurdie |
| 11:17.47 | RP | koen: That is another option |
| 11:18.38 | nik0n | hello |
| 11:18.49 | koen | in essence do_deploy is only there to get something into deploy so users can find it more easily |
| 11:18.51 | nik0n | what happened to the SRC_TARBALL_STASH proposal? |
| 11:19.57 | steliosk | mickeyl : got it thanks ! |
| 11:20.29 | XorA | RP: koen: I like the idea of do deploy operating on packages |
| 11:21.24 | koen | XorA: it would solve the 'dfu-util gets only into one deploydir' problem |
| 11:21.45 | XorA | koen: and the random file called uImage in kernel-image but no idea what file it is |
| 11:21.56 | koen | right |
| 11:23.11 | koen | the autobuilder used to run into trouble because I cleaned out deploy from time to time |
| 11:23.11 | CIA-33 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r5f67fa16... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): |
| 11:23.11 | CIA-33 | angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc : increase the Angstrom version of |
| 11:23.11 | CIA-33 | kismet to 2007-10-01 as it has a number of wanted improvements as detailed |
| 11:23.11 | CIA-33 | in #3387 no objections were raised on mailing list. |
| 11:23.50 | mickeyl | steliosk: sorry again. sometimes i suck |
| 11:24.11 | mickeyl | RP: *sigh* |
| 11:24.18 | mickeyl | RP: org.oe.dev unchanged? |
| 11:25.22 | RP | mickeyl: This is a clean angstrom build with no changes against oe.dev apart from the external toolchain stuff |
| 11:25.42 | RP | and that is disabled in this build... |
| 11:27.47 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 11:27.47 | mickeyl | this is very strange |
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| 11:27.47 | CIA-33 | 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r3e94a66e... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): sofia-sip: split glib-specific parts to ${PN}-glib |
| 11:27.47 | RP | mickeyl: In theory we haven't hit the rough patch with the staging layout changes yet since I'd just been preparing the land, I haven't flicked the layout change switch yet |
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| 11:28.09 | mickeyl | RP: ok, sorry for blaming you then. i'll find out what's wrong here |
| 11:28.12 | RP | It is possible I replaced something with something that wasn't equivalent though... |
| 11:28.40 | RP | mickeyl: Can you pastebin what you're seeing? |
| 11:29.25 | mickeyl | RP: need to do some more researches first. will get back to you |
| 11:29.28 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 11:29.38 | RP | mickeyl: ok |
| 11:30.33 | likewise | XorA: wait till it reaches 0.3 bits/s |
| 11:30.54 | koen | the mtn server is down to ~15 concurrent connections after rwhitby pointed the makefile to the openmoko server |
| 11:31.12 | koen | (from 80-100 concurrent connections) |
| 11:31.48 | rwhitby | koen: now imagine if you had to teach all those people how to change their sync machine manually in their setup ... |
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| 11:32.14 | likewise | I wonder what the 'distributed' in monotone stands for :-) |
| 11:32.31 | koen | rwhitby: one line people can paste into shell from an email |
| 11:32.49 | rwhitby | likewise: all nslu2-linux people sync to a distributed version of org.oe.dev |
| 11:33.09 | rwhitby | koen: and you think that more than 50% would get that right? |
| 11:33.27 | koen | I have no idea |
| 11:33.49 | rwhitby | (am I being elitist enough to join the OEDEM club?) ;-) |
| 11:34.11 | likewise | rwhitby: no, you're too helpful |
| 11:34.31 | RP | rwhitby: 50% is probably an overestimate ;-) |
| 11:34.35 | steliosk | mickeyl : np i understand. You'll buy beers next time we meet to cover all the sweat i spend on this :) |
| 11:34.35 | koen | It has always puzzled me that 'mtn up' is too hard, but deleting stamps isn't for users |
| 11:34.44 | likewise | rwhitby: (I'm out of my league here, I'm a mere contributor :-) ) |
| 11:35.30 | koen | even more so, because I haven't come across a document that tells (how) to delete stamps |
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| 11:38.59 | RP | rwhitby: It won't come from me, I don't have the time :( |
| 11:39.45 | RP | rwhitby: Just do understand I'm not against the makefile and think it is needed and does a lot of good. I just wish it worked a little differently... |
| 11:40.38 | XorA | bitmake Makefile update x11-image :-) |
| 11:41.33 | steliosk | hehe |
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| 11:44.16 | mickeyl | steliosk: (beer) deal! |
| 11:44.20 | mickeyl | arghs, was disconnected |
| 11:44.22 | mickeyl | here my sermon |
| 11:44.30 | mickeyl | oh no |
| 11:44.32 | mickeyl | it's gone |
| 11:44.34 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
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| 11:45.55 | mickeyl | RP: i _think_ i got it |
| 11:47.33 | Crofton|home | mickeyl, after the driectfb changes, I also built and ran directfb-examples on the OSK |
| 11:48.09 | mickeyl | Crofton|home: all worky? |
| 11:49.09 | Crofton|home | looks like it |
| 11:49.26 | Crofton|home | we had some questions on the background when run on the gumstix |
| 11:49.34 | Crofton|home | we had the same background on teh OSK |
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| 12:01.47 | Hrww | hi |
| 12:01.55 | Hrww | ewi has network outage again |
| 12:02.32 | koen | it has? |
| 12:02.37 | koen | I just logged into it |
| 12:02.46 | koen | and linuxtogo still has the ssh tunnel up |
| 12:03.00 | Hrww | so maybe it is somewhere between me and ewi |
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| 12:14.04 | ant|work | koen: FYI the random file called uImage in kernel-image is the U-BOOT kernel |
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| 12:15.28 | koen | ant|work: not when you use vendor patches |
| 12:15.39 | koen | then it's a file called uImage that might or might not boot |
| 12:15.59 | koen | which is why OE generates its own uImage instead of trusting the kernel makefiles |
| 12:18.38 | ant|work | koen: ...sorry..deformation...I was reading about u-boot |
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| 12:21.56 | Crofton|home | koen, we should save the URL to rmk's comments on the uImage subject :) |
| 12:22.38 | Crofton|home | koen, are you also the website guy? |
| 12:23.20 | ant|work | koen:Crofton: http://www.seicento.selfip.org/zaurus/issues/using_u-boot_with_other_roms.html |
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| 12:24.10 | ant|work | koen:Crofton: shorter manual http://www.embedian.com/index.php?main_page=uboot_manual |
| 12:24.42 | ant|work | koen:Crofton: I have the serial cable and will do som tests |
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| 12:37.14 | Hrww | and re |
| 12:37.20 | Hrww | I will be offline today |
| 12:37.30 | Hrww | so bye all |
| 12:37.51 | hrw | hm. |
| 12:44.20 | ade|desk | hrw , alter ego ? |
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| 13:19.49 | nud | who feels able to fix a kernel module and being paid for that ? |
| 13:21.21 | koen | bec systems (aka cbrake) or o-hand (aka RP) come to mind |
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| 13:23.06 | nud | koen: that's the one I knew too, but I wondered if there were more of them |
| 13:23.09 | nud | thanks anyway |
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| 13:23.58 | Genesis | a friend of mine is kernel devel and freelance |
| 13:24.04 | Genesis | mathdesc@scourge.fr |
| 13:24.23 | Genesis | feel free to mail him of my part |
| 13:25.09 | Genesis | http://scourge.fr/mathdesc/index.php?lang=en&content= |
| 13:25.48 | Genesis | ( company website under construction ) |
| 13:34.16 | Crofton|home | mickey|breakfast, you are keeping east coast hours ... |
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| 13:45.53 | Jin^eLD | guys, 2.6.24 has some SDIO stuff in it, right? any pointers to the project site or additional info? |
| 13:47.18 | koen | Jin^eLD: iirc pierre closed his wiki |
| 13:48.09 | Jin^eLD | closed? why that? |
| 13:48.16 | koen | it had lots of obsolete info |
| 13:48.34 | koen | see http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_24#head-b11faf7df86672a665b8f4cce03f8c42b712f475 |
| 13:48.38 | Jin^eLD | thanks |
| 13:49.11 | koen | it links to the lkml.org thread |
| 13:50.39 | Jin^eLD | I'll probablys have to write an sdio driver |
| 13:50.44 | Jin^eLD | so looking for info :) |
| 13:50.49 | Jin^eLD | let's see... |
| 13:52.08 | Jin^eLD | but what he writes in the thread - is it already in 24-rc3 or is it still only in the mmc tree? |
| 13:52.22 | koen | I think it's in rc3 |
| 13:52.34 | koen | everything in the kernel newbies is pulled from -rcX |
| 13:52.37 | koen | AIUI |
| 13:52.41 | Jin^eLD | aha.. |
| 13:53.20 | koen | mickey|breakfast: does pulse really need libtool .24 or is it just that .24 works because it doesn't have the OE rpath patches? |
| 13:55.05 | Crofton|home | hmm libtool rearing its ugly head |
| 13:55.24 | Crofton|home | I added .24 because one of the netfilter packages would not build with .10 |
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| 13:56.28 | koen | XorA: kde had its own patched copy of libtool in their svn repo |
| 13:56.41 | koen | before they switched to scons/cmake/make-du-jour |
| 13:57.04 | koen | one of the reasons why there is no kde in OE |
| 13:59.09 | XorA | elibtool |
| 13:59.12 | XorA | xlibtool |
| 13:59.14 | XorA | :-D |
| 13:59.22 | koen | uclibtool |
| 14:00.17 | lumag | Damn. With updated patchset tosa can suspend, but doesn't resume. |
| 14:00.32 | XorA | lumag: cool, at least it saves power :-) |
| 14:00.41 | XorA | lumag: BTW did you check out the wolfson repo? |
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| 14:01.04 | lumag | yeah. But I looked into it, but didn't applied it yet. |
| 14:01.30 | XorA | lumag: cool, wasnt sure if you managed to see my offline messages |
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| 14:01.59 | XorA | hey vivijim |
| 14:02.53 | vivijim | XorA: hi! |
| 14:02.53 | lumag | And it doesn't save power: screen goes shining white :) |
| 14:03.24 | XorA | lumag: they sell that for mobile phones as a torch, costs like 5 GBP, quick sell it |
| 14:04.19 | lumag | Hmmm. Good idea :) |
| 14:07.43 | Crofton|home | t- 50 minutes |
| 14:08.37 | lumag | Maybe there is a problem with tosa_pm. It's a mess. |
| 14:12.45 | nud | Genesis: and what name should I put after "I'm contacting you on behalf of ..." ? :-) |
| 14:21.17 | mickeyl | koen: that's a good question. i have no idea. what's actually required is libltdl 1.5.24, not libtool per se |
| 14:21.43 | mickeyl | Crofton|home: your defense is today, right? or was it already? |
| 14:22.23 | XorA | mickeyl: from his previous comment its in 38 minutes |
| 14:23.49 | mickeyl | aah |
| 14:23.54 | mickeyl | what a relaxed guy |
| 14:24.00 | mickeyl | i was nuts the whole day before |
| 14:24.32 | XorA | Crofton|home: always sounds kinda chilled to me :-) |
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| 14:28.57 | mickeyl | yea |
| 14:30.42 | cbrake | ok |
| 14:33.12 | RP | mickeyl: libltdl is part of libtool though. There shouldn't be any real reason we can't use libtool 2.5.24 yet leave libtool-cross and -native as 2.5.10 |
| 14:33.22 | RP | 1.5.10 even |
| 14:34.16 | mickeyl | yeo |
| 14:34.19 | mickeyl | that'd be best |
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| 14:35.06 | RP | I've finally had to look at the libtool 'code' and it makes me ill... |
| 14:35.13 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 14:35.15 | mickeyl | i can imagine |
| 14:35.25 | RP | Fixing things kergoth broke about 5 years ago :) |
| 14:36.01 | XorA | :-D |
| 14:37.16 | Genesis | nud : Ronan Bignaux |
| 14:37.21 | RP | To be fair its not as if anyone had used OE for darwin builds before... |
| 14:37.35 | nud | Genesis: merci |
| 14:37.40 | Genesis | de rien ;) |
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| 14:41.33 | mbuf | does anyone here do remote ipkg package installation? if yes, how? |
| 14:42.12 | mbuf | other than ssh into the target system, and manually doing ipkg install |
| 14:42.54 | Genesis | you can use serial |
| 14:43.04 | XorA | mbuf: never tried it, but its theoritically possible to use sshfs to mount / on device into a directory on host, then use ipkg on host with the right switches to do the install |
| 14:43.19 | Genesis | yeap with fuse |
| 14:44.24 | Genesis | minicom + lrzsz works when ethernet is not available |
| 14:44.32 | mbuf | XorA, i see |
| 14:45.17 | chouimat|work | morning |
| 14:45.39 | mbuf | XorA, but, that will be again manual, right? can it be automated from remote invocation? |
| 14:46.06 | Genesis | ishould work on that too |
| 14:46.38 | XorA | mbuf: dont see why not |
| 14:46.50 | mbuf | Genesis, "ssh root@192.168.0.202 ipkg install foo.ipk" segfaults for me (target OM+Neo1973) |
| 14:46.50 | XorA | mbuf: but Ive never tried these tricks |
| 14:48.59 | koen | XorA: ipkg probably needs a specific terminal and console emu to launch diff and friends |
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| 14:52.50 | XorA | koen: well its got that my way :-) |
| 14:54.52 | koen | drat, it seems the akita updater.sh is still not working properly |
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| 15:42.57 | koen | XorA: replied to your email, CC:ed hopefully the appropriate persons and added everything I know sofar |
| 15:43.36 | XorA | koen: cool, I have come late to the party, so I dont know if the ground was already covered |
| 15:43.52 | RP | I think all of us have :/ |
| 15:45.19 | XorA | ~seen gerwinin |
| 15:45.21 | ibot | gerwinin <n=holograp@ip5457b30e.direct-adsl.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 27d 15h 40m 29s ago, saying: 'zecke: good night :) need to work some with the sdcc compiler :('. |
| 15:45.33 | XorA | real life I guess |
| 15:45.48 | ade|desk | no it can not be done i tell you |
| 15:46.08 | koen | last I heard was that the server was split into 2 half functioning servers awaiting parts |
| 15:46.13 | koen | but that was like 5 months ago |
| 15:46.48 | ade|desk | what is wanted from this server, power or disk ? |
| 15:47.51 | koen | for mtn we just need something with ~500MB ram and a gig of diskspace |
| 15:48.03 | koen | for tinderbox we would need more ram and more diskspace |
| 15:48.17 | koen | for the autobuilder we would need even more ram and even more diskspace |
| 15:49.24 | koen | so depending on the server we can migrate 1 or more services from ewi546 to there |
| 15:50.28 | XorA | CoreDump: I suspect we can get hardware, rack space is the difficulty |
| 15:50.45 | CoreDump | I see |
| 15:50.58 | XorA | hardware is a one off cost at worst |
| 15:51.07 | XorA | rack space needs to be budgeted :-( |
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| 16:12.52 | lumag|away | got to go now |
| 16:13.01 | lumag|away | bye! |
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| 16:24.08 | koen | food |
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| 16:40.35 | hvontres|work | RP: ping |
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| 16:53.35 | Genesis | yeapah \o/ |
| 16:53.39 | Genesis | first nao boot on OE |
| 16:53.41 | Genesis | ;D |
| 16:54.33 | Genesis | swap(nao,oe) |
| 16:58.56 | Crofton|home | done, I have the signatures |
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| 17:03.29 | hrw | Crofton|home: grats |
| 17:03.32 | hrw | morning |
| 17:03.56 | Crofton|home | thanks |
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| 17:20.30 | koen | Crofton|home: congrats! |
| 17:32.33 | CIA-33 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r124fe75a... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): uicmoc4-native: Drop non-compiling 4.2.3 and 4.3.0 (closes bug 2511). |
| 17:32.45 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfc4bb63f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): console-mipv6-image: add skeleton image for ipv6 mobility folks |
| 17:32.50 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re7392dcc... 10/ (1 contrib/angstrom/build-release.sh mtn:execute true): build-release.sh: script that tells the angstrom autobuilder what to build |
| 17:33.35 | hvontres|work | Crofton|home: You defended your thesis, what are you going to do next?...:) |
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| 17:39.41 | hrw | arm-poky-linux-gnueabi-ld: no machine record defined |
| 17:39.52 | hrw | someone get something like this during kernel build? |
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| 17:51.09 | florian | hi greentux, hi pH5 |
| 17:51.18 | pH5 | hej florian |
| 17:51.23 | greentux | hi florian |
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| 18:12.42 | pH5 | Hi Khem, I think some time ago koen told me to ask you about this: http://en.pastebin.ca/805813. |
| 18:12.51 | pH5 | I need this patch to make gcc 4.2.2 compile because otherwise it fails on the psignal declaration error due to the difference in parameter signedness between libiberty and glibc. Any comments? |
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| 18:18.21 | Khem | pH5: what target are you compiling for |
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| 18:19.01 | pH5 | Khem: armv4t and armv5te angstrom-linux-gnueabi |
| 18:19.49 | Khem | pH5: is it for uclibc or glibc |
| 18:20.04 | Khem | oh you said glibc |
| 18:20.40 | Khem | pH5: does it happen when you build toolchain from sratch ? |
| 18:23.13 | pH5 | Khem: hm, good question. I think it did. But I'll retry to be sure. |
| 18:24.15 | Khem | pH5: Retry to build from scratch |
| 18:24.29 | Khem | something could be messed up in glibc headers |
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| 18:37.23 | Crofton|home | http://www.balister.org/~balister/card.png |
| 18:38.24 | CIA-33 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rfd202300... 10/ (1 packages/sword/sword_1.5.10.bb): add sword 1.5.10 |
| 18:38.32 | CIA-33 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra6bb9a36... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add python-sword 1.5.10, remove older versions that no longer build. closes #2790 |
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| 18:46.57 | hrw | mickey|sports: ping |
| 18:47.33 | hrw | "my_var = bb.data.getVar('VARIABLE', d, 1) or 0" - it gives me 'my_var' as string - how to make integer from it? |
| 18:48.38 | Genesis | bye |
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| 18:51.37 | hrw | ok. found |
| 18:51.43 | hrw | my_var = int(my_var) |
| 18:51.47 | Khem | hrw: int (x) ? |
| 18:51.53 | Khem | ah there you go |
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| 19:24.50 | hvontres|work | Crofton|home: Nice to see the word "Polytechnic" in a school name again :) |
| 19:27.04 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:27.25 | Crofton | they like to call it Virginia Tech because people have trouble spelling polytechnic |
| 19:28.34 | hvontres|work | Crofton|home: and VP dosn't sound quite so intimidating...:) |
| 19:28.50 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:30.46 | hvontres|work | Crofton|home: so now that you have an MS, are you going to avoid real life a bit longer (ie PHD) ? |
| 19:31.14 | Crofton | no PHD, hopefully I can avoid reality by consulting |
| 19:32.27 | hvontres|work | Crofton: heh..."Consulting: If you can't be part of the solution, there is plenty of mony to be made by prolonging the problem" -- one of my favorite demotivators |
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| 21:28.55 | Crofton | vivijim, ping |
| 21:29.30 | vivijim | hi Crofton |
| 21:29.45 | Crofton | I replied to your email about directfb |
| 21:29.55 | Crofton | do you know of anything that we broke with the commit? |
| 21:30.12 | vivijim | wol I'm going to read |
| 21:30.33 | Crofton | we did look at packages that listed directfb and it didn;t look like any compiled before the change |
| 21:30.36 | vivijim | for me, evas has broken |
| 21:30.43 | Crofton | and after we can run the example |
| 21:31.13 | Crofton | is that in .dev? |
| 21:31.16 | vivijim | uhm... but why can't the exemple work with the standard? |
| 21:32.00 | Crofton | the include files are not where -examples expected them |
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| 21:37.40 | vivijim | Crofton isn't the exemple wrong? for trying the wrong include directory? |
| 21:37.43 | Crofton | vivijim, whch bb file is evas in? |
| 21:37.45 | Crofton | heh |
| 21:37.52 | Crofton | we had to chose one to fix |
| 21:38.09 | Crofton | and could not find any examples that suggest directfb was correct |
| 21:39.08 | vivijim | Crofton: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/efl1/evas_cvs.bb |
| 21:41.44 | vivijim | Crofton I've noticed that the standard of directfb include dir is the /usr/include/directfb... And another thing that I've noticed is that using /usr/include directly it creates directories with generic names like "core".... For instance this core directory should be just part of directfb include... |
| 21:42.19 | Crofton | brb |
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| 21:44.03 | Fique | morning everyone |
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| 21:47.50 | Crofton | vivijim, |
| 21:48.04 | Crofton | sadly the examples used the headers from /usr/include |
| 21:48.12 | Crofton | not /usr/include/driectfb |
| 21:49.01 | Crofton | sakoman, made the change, I suspect becasue it was less intrusive than changing examples |
| 21:49.15 | Crofton | I would create a bug and mention the problem on the listserv |
| 21:52.09 | sakoman | Crofton: I checked the directfb web site and they used include there as well for the sample code. |
| 21:52.11 | vivijim | uhm... do these examples belong to the directfb developers? |
| 21:52.14 | vivijim | Crofton ^ |
| 21:52.18 | sakoman | Yes, they do |
| 21:52.26 | Crofton | ah, the culprit :) |
| 21:52.33 | sakoman | I hate it for the same reason you do |
| 21:52.40 | Crofton | sakoman, are you interested in evas? |
| 21:52.48 | sakoman | Don't know what it is :-) |
| 21:52.58 | sakoman | So I don't know! |
| 21:53.07 | vivijim | wal it is insane... so they don't have a standard... afff |
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| 21:53.16 | vivijim | hehehehe |
| 21:53.19 | Crofton | yeah |
| 21:53.39 | sakoman | Yeah, sometime I need to check to see what gtk+-directfb expects |
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| 21:53.59 | sakoman | For gumstix that will make the decision |
| 21:54.03 | Crofton | Can one of you open a bug for tracking directfb problems? |
| 21:54.35 | Crofton | I am guessing this will crop up again |
| 21:54.58 | Crofton | I am guesing the directfb in OE community consists of you two .... |
| 21:55.02 | sakoman | You mean just a generic bug for directfb? |
| 21:55.09 | Crofton | maybe ... |
| 21:55.23 | Crofton | not sure if a generis, or make specific bugs |
| 21:55.37 | Crofton | maybe just create bugs for specific problems |
| 21:55.51 | sakoman | I think once I have a look at gtk+-directfb I'll know what to file the bug against :-) |
| 21:56.08 | sakoman | examples has the lowest priority |
| 21:56.13 | Crofton | ok, lets create specific bugs for broken directfb stuff |
| 21:56.29 | sakoman | Something real that uses it should be the deciding factor |
| 21:56.42 | Crofton | I'll try and get a little interested next week |
| 21:56.55 | Crofton | need to do thesis revisions this week and get ETD form signed ..... |
| 21:59.21 | Crofton | and go over resume :) |
| 22:00.38 | sakoman | Oh no! Revisions :-( |
| 22:01.07 | Crofton | apparently I have a fondness for comma splices, and one of my committee knows what they are .... |
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| 22:01.58 | hvontres|work | Crofton: Oh no, a defrocked english major ... |
| 22:02.10 | Crofton | heh |
| 22:03.24 | hvontres|work | Crofton: heh..actually, just translate the whole thing in to Germaan :) |
| 22:03.38 | Crofton | arg |
| 22:04.46 | sakoman | Ah, now that I know what a comma splice is -- just search and replace every other comma with a period :-) |
| 22:04.55 | Crofton | apparently |
| 22:05.24 | sakoman | I have a fondness for -- splices :-) |
| 22:05.31 | Crofton | I do not like to break up my thoughts with periods ..... |
| 22:05.35 | hvontres|work | Crofton: heh, that should be easy enough for sed :) |
| 22:05.56 | sakoman | Well they always need something to criticize |
| 22:06.12 | sakoman | If it is style that means you got the content nailed |
| 22:06.18 | Crofton | yeah |
| 22:06.26 | Crofton | I need to look over the comments |
| 22:06.31 | Crofton | that is tomorrows task |
| 22:06.43 | sakoman | Not the tsc2003 driver? |
| 22:06.51 | Crofton | heh |
| 22:07.04 | Crofton | I will try that if it looks like people are getting some where |
| 22:07.09 | Crofton | I need to go over my todo list |
| 22:07.24 | vivijim | sakoman: I was taking a look to directfb-examples and I believe the best way is to pass an extra flag: CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/directfb/ |
| 22:07.31 | vivijim | what do you think? |
| 22:08.17 | sakoman | I like that -- does it work? |
| 22:08.45 | Crofton | I'm for anything you two agree on, and having -examples work :) |
| 22:08.52 | sakoman | I still think we should see what other major packages like gtk+ expect |
| 22:08.58 | Crofton | yeah |
| 22:09.30 | sakoman | If everything we care about (except examples) expects include/directfb I will be happy |
| 22:09.42 | sakoman | Avoids the pollution |
| 22:09.48 | Crofton | yeah |
| 22:10.02 | Crofton | I did show db_cpuload today :) |
| 22:10.07 | sakoman | On the tsc2003: I think that one issue is that penirq isn't connected on the gumstix hw |
| 22:10.30 | sakoman | The driver author thinks we can work around that fairly easily |
| 22:11.04 | Crofton | thats good |
| 22:11.10 | Crofton | you found the original author? |
| 22:11.25 | sakoman | Line 4 of the source code :-) |
| 22:12.36 | Crofton | ah |
| 22:13.25 | Crofton | alright, I need to go home |
| 22:13.31 | Crofton | bbiaw |
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| 22:47.09 | Tartarus | hey all |
| 22:47.23 | Tartarus | anyone know why doing PR += "foo" would have PR be "r0 foo" ? |
| 22:48.59 | CosmicPenguin | because thats what += does |
| 22:50.11 | Tartarus | Bah, that would xplain it then :) |
| 22:50.15 | Tartarus | Is there a concat w/o space? |
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| 22:50.58 | CosmicPenguin | PR="${PR}foo" |
| 22:51.57 | Tartarus | NOTE: <type 'exceptions.Exception'>:variable PR references itself! while evaluating: |
| 22:52.03 | CosmicPenguin | oh - I guess not |
| 22:52.04 | Tartarus | ...everything that uses PR :( |
| 22:52.09 | CosmicPenguin | That ustacouldawork |
| 22:52.14 | CosmicPenguin | must have changed |
| 22:52.15 | Tartarus | good thought tho, i think i tried that earlier |
| 22:54.09 | hvontres|work | Tartarus: maybe PR_tmp="${PR}foo";PR=$PR_tmp ? |
| 22:55.31 | Tartarus | same :( |
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| 23:11.00 | gcl | Tartarus; would this work: |
| 23:11.12 | gcl | PRTMP := PR |
| 23:11.28 | gcl | er, PRTMP := ${PR} |
| 23:11.43 | gcl | PR = "${PRTMP}foo" |
| 23:11.50 | gcl | ... |
| 23:12.13 | gcl | or better yet; does this work: PR := "${PR}foo" |
| 23:12.14 | gcl | ? |
| 23:13.50 | Tartarus | gcl, that's looking like it |
| 23:13.53 | Tartarus | no immediate errors, thanks |
| 23:17.12 | Tartarus | mranostay, ping |
| 23:17.13 | Tartarus | ga |
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