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| 01:22.15 | otavio | Does someone knows if there's a problem with the GIT mirror of oe? It's not updated since four days ago |
| 01:42.19 | hvontres|zzZZzz | ~seen RP |
| 01:42.45 | ibot | rp is currently on #maemo (2d 13h 3m 50s) #handhelds (2d 13h 3m 50s) #oe (2d 13h 3m 50s) #openmoko (2d 13h 3m 50s) #openzaurus (2d 13h 3m 50s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 1d 15h 7m 5s, last said: 'koen: Thats broadly along the lines I was thinking too'. |
| 01:43.58 | otavio | ~seen zecke |
| 01:43.59 | ibot | zecke <n=ich@dsl-62-220-14-162.berlikomm.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 11h 10m 2s ago, saying: 'yeah we have a new Makefile...'. |
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| 04:46.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3351 has been created by hvontres(AT)gmail.com |
| 04:46.07 | cdbot2 | * * zImage-2.6.23-poodle-20071117021844.bin crashes on boot |
| 04:46.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3351 |
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| 06:14.13 | lumag | morning! |
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| 07:25.14 | CIA-33 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r1c277b9c... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 07:25.14 | CIA-33 | SlugOS: ixp4xx-kernel - added 2.6.23.8 recipe and supporting files. (Note that |
| 07:25.14 | CIA-33 | SlugOS still selects 2.6.21 as the preferred version for now.) |
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| 08:24.18 | summatusmentis | would it be better/easier to install OE under a vmware virtual machine(vmware fusion) than to install natively to OS X? |
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| 08:25.33 | hvontres|home | summatusmentis: check with zecke or koen |
| 08:26.14 | summatusmentis | hvontres|home: do you have any idea how they do it? |
| 08:27.09 | hvontres|home | summatusmentis: nope. I am not a mac person...:) |
| 08:28.49 | summatusmentis | lol, alright, I'll ask them during realistic hours |
| 08:29.00 | summatusmentis | judging by the lack of their responses, I assume they're doing something |
| 08:29.28 | XorA | sleeping :-) |
| 08:29.36 | koen | 'morning all |
| 08:29.40 | hvontres|home | summatusmentis: actually, it's 9:30 am over there... so they should be up :) |
| 08:29.56 | koen | yes, vmware or parallels would be the easiest option |
| 08:30.58 | summatusmentis | hvontres|home: thanks :-D |
| 08:30.58 | summatusmentis | koen: easiest == best? |
| 08:30.59 | summatusmentis | or not necessarily? |
| 08:31.04 | XorA | hvontres|home: bah, those .eu people are known for sleeping :-) |
| 08:31.13 | hvontres|home | XorA: heh.. |
| 08:34.09 | hvontres|home | XorA: well, time for me to turn in...it's 0:33 here and later today is Turkey day :) |
| 08:35.09 | summatusmentis | psh... no excuses... it's 3:33 here, and later today is Turkey day :-D |
| 08:35.41 | hvontres|home | summatusmentis: yeah, but are you hosting the feast or just eating ? :P |
| 08:35.51 | steliosk | good morning all |
| 08:36.15 | hvontres|zzZZzz | n8 y'all |
| 08:37.04 | summatusmentis | hvontres|zzZZzz: : I mean... it's at my house... but I'm just a poor college student |
| 08:37.04 | summatusmentis | sleep well |
| 08:37.42 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rba9d1d72... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom-2007-preferred-versions: adjust versions to match feeds, as discussed on the angstrom-dev mailinglist |
| 08:39.11 | summatusmentis | goodnight all |
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| 08:42.16 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb239acc3... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.23.bb): linux-rp 2.6.23: bump PR to force rebuild to get gcc fix |
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| 08:45.16 | CM | koen: Weird bug, maybe it should be in bugs.oe instead: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1019 |
| 08:46.33 | koen | must be a bug in the makefile ;) |
| 08:46.40 | CM | Hehe ;) |
| 08:49.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3352 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org |
| 08:49.06 | cdbot2 | * * xserver-kdrive-1.3.0.0-r20-do_compile |
| 08:49.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3352 |
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| 08:51.28 | steliosk | looks like a stack issue |
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| 09:01.00 | Genesis | hiya |
| 09:04.26 | koen | steliosk: did you try a glibc build from scratch for ppc405 yet? |
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| 09:09.11 | steliosk | koen : not for angstrom |
| 09:09.36 | steliosk | koen : sorry i though uclibc |
| 09:09.54 | steliosk | koen : yes it builds, including x11-image |
| 09:11.09 | koen | glibc* fails to build on the autobuilder after the gcc change |
| 09:11.59 | steliosk | what kind of error ? |
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| 09:27.15 | koen | steliosk: hmmm, the autobuilder lacks logs: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3347 |
| 09:28.15 | steliosk | koen : I'll try again but it build clean here |
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| 09:34.23 | otavio | morning |
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| 09:36.17 | otavio | koen: ftp://ftp.rpm.org/pub/rpm/dist/rpm-4.1.x/popt-1.7.tar.gz is timeouting ... know any other URI to use? |
| 09:36.40 | otavio | koen: I've used Debian archive to get it but would be nice to change the bb file to use a working feed |
| 09:37.18 | koen | otavio: use DISTRO=angstrom-2007.1 |
| 09:37.37 | koen | that has a source mirror for almost all source files |
| 09:38.53 | otavio | I'm writing my own .. can you poiint me to the one?? |
| 09:39.38 | koen | writing your own what? |
| 09:39.50 | otavio | koen: anyway, popt could use a working SRC_URI so people could get it without problem |
| 09:39.58 | otavio | koen: distro definition :-) |
| 09:40.01 | koen | why? |
| 09:40.17 | koen | why do people insist on being 'special' and needing their own distro? |
| 09:40.59 | otavio | koen: to try to reduze the needed packages and like |
| 09:41.12 | otavio | koen: why it is bad? |
| 09:41.13 | koen | that's not distro territory |
| 09:41.21 | koen | that's what images are for |
| 09:42.06 | otavio | you mean I wouldn't maintain the distro? |
| 09:42.19 | koen | I have an angstrom image that is like 800kB |
| 09:42.24 | otavio | what's the distro territory then? |
| 09:42.32 | koen | dunno how you want to reduce needed packages any further from that |
| 09:45.53 | esben_ | where to send ipkg bug/fixes upstream? |
| 09:46.30 | koen | esben_: there isn't really an upstream anymore |
| 09:46.46 | koen | esben_: ipkg is basically maintained in OE nowadays :( |
| 09:46.52 | otavio | koen: could you explain to me what's the distro needing then? Why someone could need to "write" one definition? |
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| 09:47.13 | koen | otavio: a distro sets policy, like compiler and c library versions |
| 09:47.44 | otavio | koen: any other thing that could be done there? |
| 09:48.03 | otavio | koen: I found that machine changes what task-base will include .. too |
| 09:48.22 | koen | right, but no-one is forcing you to use task-base |
| 09:48.39 | esben_ | koen: but there are active OE developers with write access to the ipkg cvs repos? |
| 09:48.47 | otavio | koen: yes, but it looks to be the easier way to be up to date |
| 09:48.49 | koen | esben_: there aren't |
| 09:49.06 | esben_ | argh. |
| 09:49.26 | esben_ | sounds like something that should be done something about.... |
| 09:49.48 | esben_ | we use it, so it cannot be dead in that way :-( |
| 09:50.05 | koen | esben_: every now and then we suggest just to fork it :) |
| 09:50.22 | koen | put all ipkg sources in OE and be done with it |
| 09:50.41 | otavio | koen: fork looks to be the easiest and more logical in this case |
| 09:50.50 | esben_ | koen: but as I understand it, OE metadata should stay.... metadata. |
| 09:51.07 | esben_ | and as such, actual code repositories should be outside OE MTN. |
| 09:51.11 | otavio | esben_: but it could be kept on the website, not on metadata |
| 09:51.32 | koen | esben_: true, but we already have complete sources in OE already |
| 09:51.43 | esben_ | otavio: website is not really the preferred CM choice for most people... |
| 09:51.53 | otavio | CM ? |
| 09:52.35 | CM | :P |
| 09:53.23 | esben_ | if you fork an existing codebase because of lack of write access, you have the choice :-) |
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| 09:54.14 | nik0n | is there any special reason that ther's no linux-libc-headers 2.4.x package? |
| 09:54.39 | koen | nik0n: because there is no need for it |
| 09:55.14 | nik0n | koen: well u can have a 2.4 kernel system with a uclibc compiled against 2.6 kernel headers? |
| 09:55.41 | koen | yes |
| 09:56.03 | nik0n | this didnt work out for me, with busybox ifconfig wasnt possible, always told me that AF_INET is not availible |
| 09:56.10 | otavio | nik0n: it's used to identify syscalls and like ... don't see why it wouldn't be possible |
| 09:56.12 | nik0n | so no socket could be opened |
| 09:56.34 | nik0n | im trying the same now with 2.4.25 headers |
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| 10:02.55 | esben_ | koen: where in OE is the complete sources for ipkg? |
| 10:02.56 | esben_ | ipkg_0.99.163.bb pulls it from www.handhelds.org... |
| 10:03.17 | koen | the source isn't in OE (uet) |
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| 10:04.05 | esben_ | are there anyone in OE community that has "ownership" or something like that for ipkg? |
| 10:05.01 | koen | not that I know off |
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| 10:06.54 | esben_ | what about any active usage of ipkg outside OE? |
| 10:08.03 | nud | I think maemo uses ipkg despite not being based on OE at first |
| 10:08.31 | esben_ | ok |
| 10:09.39 | otavio | How could I identify _why_ so many tasks are queued when I run 'bitbake bootstrap-image'? It looks like a huge number and takes forever to build (say 1448 tasks to be done) |
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| 10:09.40 | koen | maemo uses apt, not ipkg |
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| 10:24.26 | esben_ | koen: apt+dpkg? |
| 10:24.33 | otavio | esben_: yes |
| 10:24.42 | otavio | esben_: they're Debian based |
| 10:24.43 | esben_ | ok |
| 10:25.02 | koen | esben_: yes, apt+dpkg, but with 'custom' extensions |
| 10:25.08 | otavio | esben_: they even use Debian buildd similar infrastruture to build the packages |
| 10:25.45 | hrw | morning |
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| 10:26.37 | koen | hey hrw |
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| 10:28.13 | otavio | hrw: morning |
| 10:35.21 | nud | does someone know how to compile the bttv drivers on ARM (cm-x270) ? there is no menu entry in make menuconfig for it... |
| 10:36.33 | hrw | nud: really? |
| 10:36.42 | nud | hrw: or I'm blind |
| 10:36.58 | hrw | tried "/" and then "bttv"? |
| 10:37.02 | nud | yes |
| 10:37.11 | nud | but the menu entry is not there |
| 10:37.31 | hrw | I see it |
| 10:37.41 | hrw | device drivers -> multimedia -> video 4 linux |
| 10:37.46 | nud | yes |
| 10:37.49 | nud | bt848 ? |
| 10:37.57 | hrw | yes |
| 10:38.00 | nud | mh |
| 10:38.01 | nud | strange |
| 10:38.05 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:38.07 | nud | what kernel version ? |
| 10:38.19 | hrw | 2.6.24-rc3-git |
| 10:38.27 | nud | oh, bleeding edge |
| 10:38.32 | nud | I have 2.6.22 here |
| 10:38.57 | hrw | nud: does cm-x270 has pci? no |
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| 10:39.09 | nud | it has pc104 |
| 10:39.12 | hrw | bttv is for PCI cards only |
| 10:39.23 | nud | pc104+ |
| 10:39.34 | nud | I have a pc104+ card with a bttv chip on it |
| 10:39.35 | hrw | is not pc104 formfactor? |
| 10:39.56 | nud | which is known to work with linux x86 |
| 10:40.05 | nud | but I will check pci is enabled |
| 10:40.15 | hrw | but x86 has pci signals on pc104 slot |
| 10:40.28 | nud | arm has not ? |
| 10:40.30 | hrw | and cm-x270 has cpu which lack pci controler |
| 10:40.43 | nud | why do they chip the port then ? |
| 10:41.11 | koen | isn't compulab using minipci on some boards? |
| 10:41.19 | hrw | you ave cm-x270 or sbc-x270? |
| 10:41.29 | nud | hrw: sbc-x270 |
| 10:41.35 | nud | with a cm-x270 on it |
| 10:42.09 | hrw | The SBC-X270 is a standard PC/104+ compliant, single board computer. It is implemented by CM-X270 module providing most of the functions, including an integrated wireless LAN (WiFi) interface. The SB-X270 carrier board providing connectors and several additional functions. |
| 10:42.24 | hrw | nud: cm-x270 != sbc-x270 |
| 10:42.29 | nud | ah |
| 10:44.10 | nud | hrw: thanks, activating pci support showed the driver |
| 10:45.05 | nud | I thought the SB-X270 was the canonical way to develop for a CM-X270 |
| 10:45.11 | hrw | according to reference guide of sbc-x270 it has pci and isa on pc104 slots |
| 10:45.30 | hrw | nud: sbc-x270 is a board to use cm-x270 features in pc104 cases |
| 10:47.40 | nud | compulab does custom boards based on a stripped SBX doesn't it ? |
| 10:51.07 | hrw | no idea |
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| 10:52.27 | hrw | http://pastebin.ca/793523 - koen, mickey_away, RP: opinions? |
| 10:55.28 | nud | mmh |
| 10:56.06 | nud | no rule to make target arch/arm/mach-pxa/cm-x270-pci.o |
| 10:59.20 | RP | hrw: Ugly but probably needed... |
| 11:01.22 | nud | cbrake_away: are you there ? |
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| 11:02.40 | hrw | koen: ? |
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| 11:14.04 | koen | hrw: does that work with multimachine? |
| 11:14.33 | koen | e.g. will it build task-raid if I switch to a machine that has it in M_F? |
| 11:14.44 | koen | (other than that, no objections) |
| 11:15.27 | hrw | koen: this is how we have that in poky - task-base is machine related always |
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| 11:19.23 | hrw | ~lart bluez |
| 11:19.23 | ibot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at bluez |
| 11:19.37 | hrw | ~curse kde-bluetooth |
| 11:19.38 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, kde-bluetooth ! |
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| 11:25.36 | nud | cbrake_away: ping |
| 11:25.53 | koen | hrw: in that case, go ahead and commit it :P) |
| 11:28.07 | koen | s/P// |
| 11:28.08 | otavio | It does reduce the number of tasks :-) |
| 11:28.31 | hrw | ~curse bluez again |
| 11:28.32 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, bluez again ! |
| 11:28.41 | XorA | heh heh I think HRW does not like bluez |
| 11:29.06 | hrw | this fscking crap lack ANY pairing tool |
| 11:35.39 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 11:35.53 | broonie | Why would you need that? |
| 11:37.06 | hrw | ? |
| 11:37.22 | broonie | Pairing for bluetooth. |
| 11:37.32 | broonie | :P |
| 11:38.01 | lumag|gone | hi! |
| 11:38.02 | hrw | because my phones require pairing? |
| 11:38.50 | broonie | Like most bluetooth devices - seems a bit of a crazy omission. |
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| 11:42.14 | XorA | linux has poor mans bluetooth support :-( |
| 11:43.59 | chouimat | morning |
| 11:44.41 | koen | doesn't bluez-gnome do pairing? |
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| 11:46.10 | esben_ | ipkg install is broken under cygwin, but works when run under gdb on cygwin. |
| 11:46.36 | esben_ | looks like a timing issue in gz_close with relation to kill SIGTERM :-( |
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| 12:17.06 | likewise | hi all |
| 12:17.11 | Jin^eLD | hey likewise |
| 12:17.18 | likewise | Jin^eLD: hey there! |
| 12:18.08 | esben_ | cygwin sucks |
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| 12:22.54 | Genesis | yo likewise :) |
| 12:23.13 | Genesis | esben_ : is you that work on windows OE port ? |
| 12:24.13 | esben_ | yes, and .... |
| 12:24.46 | esben_ | and I just got a meta-toolchain to build a nice little .tar.bz2 file :-) |
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| 12:25.37 | likewise | Genesis: hey |
| 12:26.13 | esben_ | I feel quite confident that we shouldn't try to go further than that. I don't believe it will be worth the effort to be able to build images under cygwin. |
| 12:28.00 | steliosk | koen : any idea why i would get a waring " can not start initial console" when udev tries to start ? |
| 12:28.48 | koen | steliosk: missing /dev/console in the rootfs? |
| 12:29.28 | steliosk | koen : though of that but etc/device_tables has a /dev/console entry |
| 12:30.01 | koen | xjqian: I fear you didn't push your commit to gcc |
| 12:35.38 | Genesis | perharps qemu is a better solution that native OE port |
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| 12:38.32 | esben_ | steliosk: don't you need /dev/console in rootfs anyway? |
| 12:40.49 | CIA-33 | 03olvaffe 07org.oe.dev * r99cdb00e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): xserver-kdrive_1.3.0.0.bb : fix x86 breakage with glamo patch |
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| 12:48.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3352 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by dp(AT)xora.org.uk |
| 12:48.06 | cdbot2 | * * xserver-kdrive-1.3.0.0-r20-do_compile |
| 12:48.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3352 |
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| 13:01.38 | likewise | Anyone got an advice on a small robust FTP server which is in OE? |
| 13:02.02 | koen | I only know that vsftp is in |
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| 13:02.09 | koen | no idea if it's small or robust |
| 13:02.13 | hrw | busybox does not have ftpd? |
| 13:02.42 | broonie | hrw: There was the robust bit... |
| 13:03.36 | hrw | ;D |
| 13:04.31 | koen | what are to opinions on enabling libb in busybox >1.7.x ? |
| 13:04.36 | koen | libbb* |
| 13:05.59 | antvr | koen: hello, somebody checking busybox? |
| 13:06.12 | hrw | koen: and only busybox use it? |
| 13:06.31 | antvr | koen: last time I had syslog I saw some glitches |
| 13:06.32 | hrw | koen: and busybox is still one multibinary instead of lot of small binaires? |
| 13:07.34 | antvr | koen:hrw pls check the "bl" file in busybox |
| 13:07.48 | koen | hrw: ipkg uses libb as well |
| 13:08.04 | hrw | koen: own internal copy of old busybox one |
| 13:08.10 | antvr | koen:hrw ipaq-sleep was needing bl but could not find it |
| 13:08.14 | hrw | koen: who know how much patched |
| 13:08.44 | koen | hrw: unpatched the last time I talked to pigi |
| 13:09.01 | hrw | koen: feel free to test ipkg with newer libbb |
| 13:09.02 | koen | he updated it from 0.60 to 1.0 a few years ago |
| 13:09.15 | steliosk | esben : i *assume* it is but probably something is fcking it |
| 13:09.47 | steliosk | ~ping mickey_away : reminder for the pdf's |
| 13:09.47 | ibot | pong mickey_away : reminder for the pdf's |
| 13:09.58 | steliosk | later all |
| 13:19.08 | antvr | hrw:koen oops... I was pretty sure was included in a customzed busybox...perhaps I'm wrong |
| 13:21.20 | CIA-33 | 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r618bc572... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc): angstrom.inc: add FEED_ARCH for mpc8313e-rdb and mpc8323e-rdb machines |
| 13:21.50 | likewise | jeremy_laine: hello, you got commit access or are you pushing the patches through someone else? |
| 13:21.53 | antvr | grep from the current busybox has odd syntax... grep -R is a no no |
| 13:22.09 | jeremy_laine | likewise: I have commit access now |
| 13:22.13 | likewise | jeremy_laine: cool |
| 13:22.46 | jeremy_laine | likewise: yup, it avoids me creating a whole bunch of bug reports for every patch :) |
| 13:22.48 | likewise | welcome aboard |
| 13:22.53 | jeremy_laine | thanks! |
| 13:23.04 | likewise | and thanks for the mpc work :-) |
| 13:23.26 | jeremy_laine | no problem, it's a fun platform to work on so far :) |
| 13:24.01 | likewise | jeremy_laine: you got a x13 already? |
| 13:24.10 | jeremy_laine | no unfortunately not |
| 13:24.17 | jeremy_laine | should be sometime soon |
| 13:24.20 | likewise | Does the xx23 board have its expansion bus available on a pin header? |
| 13:24.34 | likewise | (local bus, address/data 66 MHz bus) |
| 13:24.35 | nud | cbrake_away: desperate ping |
| 13:24.47 | jeremy_laine | by expansion board oyu mean mini-pci ? |
| 13:25.18 | likewise | no, the local bus is a data/address bus |
| 13:25.25 | CIA-33 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd3817d82... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): zaurus-updater: dropped spitz one as unified works on spitz (tested by Rolf Leggewie) |
| 13:25.48 | likewise | the xx13 does not AFAIK, which is a bummer for me. I need to connect a FPGA. |
| 13:26.04 | jeremy_laine | ah, I wouldn't know, haven't been into that yet |
| 13:26.46 | jeremy_laine | what bums me out is that I'd prefer an xx14, for TDM support |
| 13:26.58 | jeremy_laine | but can't get hold of one yet |
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| 13:43.08 | thesing | hi everybody |
| 13:43.26 | thesing | XorA: ping |
| 13:43.43 | XorA | yo thesing |
| 13:44.33 | thesing | can you point me to the genesis emulator for the gpx2? |
| 13:44.41 | XorA | koen: -PREFERRED_VERSION_libxxf86dga ?= "1.0.2" |
| 13:44.42 | XorA | +PREFERRED_VERSION_lib10xxf86dga ?= "1.0.2" |
| 13:44.46 | XorA | koen: I spot a typo |
| 13:45.08 | thesing | I think it was written in arm asm. |
| 13:45.28 | XorA | thesing: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=38316 |
| 13:47.00 | thesing | thanks. |
| 13:48.38 | Genesis | ... |
| 13:51.44 | thesing | XorA: did you ever try it on zaurus? |
| 13:51.58 | XorA | thesing: no |
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| 14:01.16 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5435f04d... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom-2007-preferred-versions.inc): angstrom 2--7 lockdown file: fix typo spotted by XorA |
| 14:04.50 | XorA | PREFERRED_VERSION_libxrender ?= "0.9.4" breaks xserver-kdrive |
| 14:05.23 | XorA | PREFERRED_VERSION_renderproto ?= "0.9.3" that one I mean |
| 14:05.49 | XorA | 0.9.3 introduced XID which is never defined, 0.9.2 works |
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| 14:10.36 | Crofton | time to drive to lunch .... |
| 14:10.39 | Crofton | l8r all |
| 14:19.32 | XorA | ok, the angstrom-2007-preferred-versions overrides the xorg-preferred-versions which I correct |
| 14:19.54 | XorA | but we now in situation the feeds are obviously bolloxed |
| 14:20.00 | XorA | how do we go backwards? |
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| 14:24.43 | hrw | epoch? |
| 14:25.19 | XorA | hrw: that would work but is nasty |
| 14:25.38 | XorA | hrw: and fundamentally there is nothing wrong with OE meta data, its Angstroms that is wrong |
| 14:25.56 | koen | XorA: that's the "make a list of apps" part in my release proposal |
| 14:27.33 | XorA | koen: so we are going to rebuild the feeds from fresh? |
| 14:27.56 | koen | that's the idea |
| 14:28.06 | XorA | koen: ahah, I hadnt cottened on to that |
| 14:28.25 | koen | It is a bit hidden in the proposal :) |
| 14:29.06 | XorA | still immediate term we need to downgrade renderproto to 0.9.2 |
| 14:32.39 | XorA | and why did the version suddenly change today, I cant find a commit that changed the ordering |
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| 14:38.33 | chouimat|work | morning |
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| 14:53.51 | koen | RP: a build from scratch for ep93xx just completed minimal-image |
| 14:57.43 | XorA | which column is which in bitbake -s ? |
| 14:58.07 | koen | I always forget |
| 14:58.49 | XorA | Im hoping its current preferred |
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| 15:17.40 | likewise | HopsNBarley: Hi Andy |
| 15:17.50 | nud | seems to be some electrical issue between the tty0 and the microphone |
| 15:18.04 | nud | because when it's not connected it works fine, and doesn't otherwise |
| 15:18.10 | HopsNBarley | hi likewise! happy US turkey day (-; |
| 15:18.20 | nud | how strange that is |
| 15:21.07 | likewise | HopsNBarley: Enjoy your Tur(n)key project today :-) |
| 15:22.18 | HopsNBarley | actually i'm putting together a build for a new OE client (-; turkey and a good pinot will come later today |
| 15:23.24 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0b7b2346... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): mpfr: add 2.3.0 |
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| 15:29.52 | RP | koen: Handy to know, thanks :) |
| 15:30.00 | RP | koen: I'll have to commit some further changes ;-) |
| 15:33.09 | Genesis | who's go at fosdem 2008 to do some conferences ? |
| 15:36.11 | Genesis | :/ |
| 15:36.28 | Genesis | XorA : stand ? conference ? |
| 15:37.07 | XorA | OE stand most likely |
| 15:37.15 | XorA | and dragged around for OM stuff I suspect |
| 15:37.22 | Genesis | :) |
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| 15:44.09 | hrw | bye |
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| 15:47.02 | ade|desk | yay fun power cut |
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| 16:00.13 | mickeyl | moin |
| 16:01.41 | CIA-33 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0a649e59... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gettext: Disable java since it finds any native gcj and breaks cross compiled builds (from Poky) |
| 16:03.06 | CIA-33 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0a649e59... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gettext: Disable java since it finds any native gcj and breaks cross compiled builds (from Poky) |
| 16:08.45 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 16:14.27 | lumag | bye! |
| 16:19.26 | mickeyl | hi koen |
| 16:19.27 | mickeyl | yo jeremy_laine |
| 16:19.34 | mickeyl | jeremy_laine: good work on the Python stuff so far. |
| 16:19.35 | koen | mickeyl: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2007-November/000970.html |
| 16:21.23 | jeremy_laine | mickeyl: what python packages were you having problems with regarding setuptools? |
| 16:21.34 | mickeyl | jeremy_laine: python-e* |
| 16:21.43 | jeremy_laine | I'd be interested in seing if setuptools.bbclass helps |
| 16:21.44 | mickeyl | i.e. the EFL stuff |
| 16:21.56 | mickeyl | i have some pushed for more up to date EFL which I'll push soon |
| 16:22.06 | mickeyl | after that i'm giving setuptools.bbclass a try |
| 16:22.07 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 16:22.48 | mickeyl | koen: hmm, good plan. it makes sense to do it this year, otherwise it'll take too long |
| 16:23.19 | jeremy_laine | one thing I didn't understand is why do we have both a distutils_stage_headers and distutils_stage_all |
| 16:23.24 | koen | mickeyl: otherwise it clashes with angstrom 2008 :) |
| 16:28.45 | nud | how would you do, in an init script, to ensure a daemon gets reloaded when it fails (crash, etc) |
| 16:29.17 | CoreDump | nud: a cronjob |
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| 16:33.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3353 has been created by dodji(AT)seketeli.org |
| 16:33.06 | cdbot2 | * * gettext fails to build |
| 16:33.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3353 |
| 16:33.17 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3353 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 16:33.19 | cdbot2 | * * gettext fails to build |
| 16:33.21 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3353 |
| 16:34.56 | mickeyl | jeremy_laine: i don't remember offhand, i think it was necessary because of python-e*'s usage of setuptools |
| 16:34.58 | thesing_ | nud: inittab migth be better |
| 16:35.35 | jeremy_laine | ah, well if you can keep an eye on it while updating python-e*, I'd be interested in knowing |
| 16:35.58 | nud | thesing_: any pointer ? |
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| 16:37.06 | thesing_ | nud: google for /etc/inittab |
| 16:37.11 | jeremy_laine | if you need to customise the invocation of setup.py in setuptools.inc, you can using the DISTUTILS_STAGE_HEADERS_ARGS, DISTUTILS_STAGE_ALL_ARGS variables |
| 16:37.44 | jeremy_laine | mickeyl: (see top of distutils.inc file) |
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| 16:38.09 | CoreDump | of course, inittab might work as well. A cronjob is the brute-force method of keeping a service alive (if done properly) |
| 16:38.20 | jeremy_laine | mickeyl: s/inc/bbclass/ |
| 16:38.48 | CIA-33 | 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r40f293b1... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:38.48 | CIA-33 | hostap-daemon_0.6.0.bb: package version 0.6.0 of hostap-daemon |
| 16:38.48 | CIA-33 | * update makefile-cross.diff patch |
| 16:38.48 | CIA-33 | * fix init script: pass -B to hostapd instead of passing -b |
| 16:38.49 | CIA-33 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.51 | CIA-33 | * instead of using per-machine enabling/disabling of madwifi |
| 16:38.53 | CIA-33 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.06 | jeremy_laine | CoreDump: heh, brute-force would be having "monit" on the device |
| 16:39.38 | CoreDump | heh |
| 16:41.14 | thesing | ~seen mr_data |
| 16:41.16 | ibot | i haven't seen 'mr_data', thesing |
| 16:41.27 | thesing | ~seen mr_nice |
| 16:41.28 | ibot | mr_nice <n=mr_nice@83-215-11-14.stadt.dyn.salzburg-online.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #opensimpad.org, 10d 19h 14m 32s ago, saying: 'x29a: ich habe hier keine kamera'. |
| 16:45.56 | mickeyl | jeremy_laine: ok, coolies |
| 16:53.55 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 17:00.16 | CIA-33 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r8e1c07cc... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): task-openmoko.bb : add openmoko-messages2 to the images |
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| 17:04.32 | koen | pH5: congrats on getting the magician patches accepted |
| 17:05.56 | pH5 | koen: thanks :) |
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| 17:41.28 | otavio | There's any easy way to get an ext2 image that has it properly set to be bootable? |
| 17:41.52 | summatusmentis | koen: ping |
| 17:43.55 | zecke|flu | otavio: awesome, but better stay away from me today :) |
| 17:44.16 | otavio | zecke|flu: too flu? |
| 17:44.32 | otavio | zecke|flu: have you noticed that OE GIT mirror isn't being up to date? |
| 17:44.52 | zecke|flu | otavio: I'm too stupid for crontab -e :) |
| 17:45.00 | otavio | ahha |
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| 17:50.03 | summatusmentis | zecke|flu: is it gonna be easier/better to install linux under vmware fusion, and run OE that way, or do it in OS X natively? |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8d5431bc... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-33 | busybox-static 1.2.1: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command. |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-33 | * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-33 | when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-33 | at writing bootloader tools and stuff. |
| 17:52.12 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r0af68458... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): initrdscripts: Introduce boot order support for universal initramfs modules. |
| 17:52.20 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r41897bf9... 10/ (1 packages/initrdscripts/files/init.sh): initrdscripts: Initial value for ROOT_DEV is null. |
| 17:52.25 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r0017e482... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): initrdscripts: Separate fs kernel module loading to separate plugin. |
| 17:52.29 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r3ada91e9... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): initrdscripts: Finish renaming for ordered module load. |
| 17:52.33 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r76f06a59... 10/ (1 packages/initrdscripts/files/init.sh): initrdscripts: We obviously first do rootdelay, and only then create device nodes. |
| 17:52.38 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rfbf68cc9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:52.38 | CIA-33 | dropbear 0.49: Beautify init script output. |
| 17:52.38 | CIA-33 | * Make sure that "Starting: dropbear" message is not broken by host |
| 17:52.38 | CIA-33 | key generation output. |
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| 18:07.26 | otavio | I found that there's a class bootimg but I didn't find any image using it |
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| 18:08.07 | otavio | anyone has an example for using it? |
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| 18:16.59 | koen | ERROR: Build of /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/dropbear/dropbear_0.49.bb do_install failed |
| 18:17.00 | koen | hmmm |
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| 18:20.14 | damir979 | WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! |
| 18:20.16 | damir979 | WRAARRRR!!! I has the Cookies Tooo! WRAARRRR!!! |
| 18:20.20 | damir979 | WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! |
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| 18:21.11 | chouimat|work | kids |
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| 18:28.16 | HopsNBarley | yo gang - whats the correct way to name a new kernel? packages/linux/ is all over the map. |
| 18:28.47 | koen | linux_<version>.bb |
| 18:28.58 | koen | and use linux.inc |
| 18:29.05 | HopsNBarley | ah - thanks koen! |
| 18:29.58 | Genesis | bye |
| 18:31.43 | HopsNBarley | koen, if we migrate to linx_<version>.bb, won't the file get a bit busy with DEFAULT_PREFERENCE_machine and SRC_URI_append(s) ? |
| 18:32.22 | HopsNBarley | just wondering if that is any better than all the individual files. |
| 18:33.25 | koen | it is better than the individual files |
| 18:34.10 | koen | you can now immediately see what patches other machines use and learn from that |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbb63b7b4... 10/ (19 files in 10 dirs): |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-33 | busybox: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command in angstrom configs. |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-33 | * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-33 | when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-33 | at writing bootloader tools and stuff. |
| 18:34.21 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbb63b7b4... 10/ (19 files in 10 dirs): |
| 18:34.25 | CIA-33 | busybox: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command in angstrom configs. |
| 18:34.27 | CIA-33 | * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful |
| 18:34.29 | CIA-33 | when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted |
| 18:34.31 | CIA-33 | at writing bootloader tools and stuff. |
| 18:34.33 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbb63b7b4... 10/ (19 files in 10 dirs): |
| 18:34.35 | CIA-33 | busybox: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command in angstrom configs. |
| 18:34.41 | CIA-33 | * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful |
| 18:34.43 | CIA-33 | when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted |
| 18:34.45 | CIA-33 | at writing bootloader tools and stuff. |
| 18:34.47 | CIA-33 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbb63b7b4... 10/ (19 files in 10 dirs): |
| 18:34.49 | CIA-33 | busybox: Enable support for -t & -n options for read command in angstrom configs. |
| 18:34.51 | CIA-33 | * These are timeout and num chars to read options, both are useful |
| 18:34.55 | CIA-33 | when writing UI interaction code, with busybox-static being targetted |
| 18:34.57 | CIA-33 | at writing bootloader tools and stuff. |
| 18:35.08 | koen | CIA-33: likes me |
| 18:35.43 | HopsNBarley | a related question - is there any policy on committing vendor ikernel patches? i've got a few sets laying around. not all are freely downloadable - but all come with the machines in question. GPL would seem to permit it, but i'm just asking. |
| 18:37.34 | HopsNBarley | koen, thanks for your always sage advice (-; |
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| 18:49.43 | xjqian | koen: after update a package while keeping old (i.e. mtn mv $old $new; cp $new $old; mtn add $old), I got mtn: error: merge failed due to unresolved conflicts during next mtn pull and mtn merge |
| 18:50.20 | xjqian | Koen: what's the easy solution. Sorry for the laziness of not sipping through monotone document |
| 18:51.34 | koen | mpfr? |
| 18:51.40 | xjqian | yeah |
| 18:52.02 | xjqian | warning: rename target conflict: nodes 25349, 6083, both want parent 1278, name mpfr_2.3.0.bb |
| 18:52.11 | koen | xjqian: mtn revert packages/mpfr ; mtn up |
| 18:52.19 | koen | I added mpfr 2.3.0 today |
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| 18:52.30 | koen | the patch in the bug replaced 2.1.x |
| 18:53.15 | koen | lots of (vocal) OE users are attached to their broken old version, so removing 2.1.x didn't seem like a good idea |
| 18:53.22 | koen | xjqian: btw, I suspect you forgot to push your gcc commit |
| 18:53.49 | xjqian | the ln -sf gfortran g77? |
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| 18:54.31 | koen | dunno, I didn't see the commit :) |
| 18:54.51 | xjqian | yes, I'm about to |
| 18:55.26 | xjqian | koen, I didn't remove 2.1.1. I just added 2.3.0 while keeping the old |
| 18:55.42 | xjqian | btw, mtn revert doesn't help |
| 18:59.01 | xjqian | well, seems I do need to read the mtn pages with the help of beer |
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| 19:04.57 | xjqian | koen: here is the gcc patch http://pastebin.ca/793918. I have to learn monotone and get through this multiple head problem before I commit. So feel free to commit it for me. |
| 19:07.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3354 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org |
| 19:07.06 | cdbot2 | * * dropbear-0.49-r1-do_install |
| 19:07.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3354 |
| 19:07.16 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3355 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org |
| 19:07.18 | cdbot2 | * * glibc-2.5-r8-do_package |
| 19:07.20 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3355 |
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| 19:40.30 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r2954b41f... 10/ (1 packages/initrdscripts/files/10-initfs.sh): |
| 19:40.30 | CIA-33 | initrdscripts: module-initfs: Be silent on loading non-existent module. |
| 19:40.30 | CIA-33 | * Use -q for modprobe, and as that apparently doesn't help bitbake's modprobe, |
| 19:40.30 | CIA-33 | redirect output to /dev/null. |
| 19:40.34 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * re6a53e3b... 10/ (1 packages/initrdscripts/files/80-loopboot.sh): initramfs-module-loopboot: Allow to use absolute path for loop file location. |
| 19:40.39 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rd33b5e7d... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): initramfs-uniboot & modules: Bump PRs for latest changes. |
| 19:40.44 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb4fb0e02... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:40.44 | CIA-33 | initramfs-module-bootmenu: Interactive boot location selection for initramfs-uniboot. |
| 19:40.44 | CIA-33 | * For now, supports booting from ext2/ext3 partitions and from ext2/ext3 loopback |
| 19:40.44 | CIA-33 | images placed on vfat partition. |
| 19:40.49 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r311e72b5... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): |
| 19:40.49 | CIA-33 | bitbake.conf: Reformat and alphabetize ASSUME_PROVIDED list. |
| 19:40.50 | CIA-33 | * According to http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-November/003493.html , |
| 19:40.52 | CIA-33 | ASSUME_PROVIDED in the bitbake.conf is the authoritative location of list |
| 19:40.54 | CIA-33 | of package which expected to be installed on the host for OE to work properly. |
| 19:40.56 | CIA-33 | Make the list more prominent and easy to maintain. |
| 19:40.58 | CIA-33 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rd645cc63... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 19:41.02 | CIA-33 | linux-rp: Depends on bc during buildtime for collie. |
| 19:41.04 | CIA-33 | * Don't bother to create bc-natibe though, just add it to global |
| 19:41.06 | CIA-33 | ASSUME_PROVIDED list. |
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| 21:00.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3355 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by koen(AT)openembedded.org |
| 21:00.06 | cdbot2 | * * glibc-2.5-r8-do_package |
| 21:00.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3355 |
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| 21:08.31 | flo_lap | re |
| 21:08.35 | woglinde | hi florian |
| 21:08.56 | woglinde | hm can someone enlight me |
| 21:09.34 | woglinde | in libtool is defined PACKAGES = "libltdl libltdl-dev ${PN}" |
| 21:09.43 | woglinde | but I cannt bitbake libltdl |
| 21:11.03 | flo_lap | woglinde: yes, "libtool" is your target |
| 21:11.50 | woglinde | hm okay I see but RDEPENDS seems to work this way |
| 21:12.01 | woglinde | thats good |
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| 21:14.26 | flo_lap | woglinde: right |
| 21:14.29 | flo_lap | hi greentux |
| 21:14.37 | woglinde | hi greentux |
| 21:14.42 | greentux | hi flo_lap woglinde |
| 21:24.21 | greentux | fosdem will take place at the same place... with not much enough room... |
| 21:25.07 | CIA-33 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r01a1687d... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages: add cryptsetup |
| 21:25.39 | CIA-33 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r0d345a7f... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:25.39 | CIA-33 | cacao-cldc: fix path to cldc1.1.jar |
| 21:25.39 | CIA-33 | * path is now /usr/share/java for cldc1.1.jar |
| 21:25.39 | CIA-33 | * cosmetic change for cacao-cldc in package area |
| 21:25.39 | CIA-33 | * bump PR to 1 |
| 21:25.53 | CIA-33 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r99c0b421... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:25.53 | CIA-33 | midpath-cldc: rproviding virtual/cldc-api-1.1 |
| 21:25.53 | CIA-33 | * set in midpath-cldc: RPROVIDES = "virtual/cldc-api-1.1" |
| 21:25.53 | CIA-33 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:25.54 | CIA-33 | * bump PR to 1 |
| 21:26.01 | CIA-33 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r04790f0b... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:26.01 | CIA-33 | midpath: cosmetic buildfixes |
| 21:26.01 | CIA-33 | * remove unnecessary build directory in a couple of .bb |
| 21:26.02 | CIA-33 | * no need to bump the PR |
| 21:26.14 | CIA-33 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r34a9e2f0... 10/ (1 packages/midpath/midpath-pulseaudio_0.1.bb): midpath-pulseaudio: new sound backend for midpath |
| 21:26.26 | flo_lap | greentux: yes, that's quite likely |
| 21:26.35 | CIA-33 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r74f9f938... 10/ (1 packages/cacao/cacao-cldc_0.98.bb): |
| 21:26.35 | CIA-33 | cacao-cldc: fix RDEPENDS for libltdl |
| 21:26.35 | CIA-33 | * cacao-cldc needs libltdl if executed |
| 21:27.53 | greentux | ok, is novotel again #oe hotel? |
| 21:29.27 | XorA|gone | greentux: I thought it was Astrid last year |
| 21:31.06 | greentux | XorA|gone: right, but year ago it was novotel... ? mmh my mind.. |
| 21:31.34 | XorA|gone | greentux: its a bit far in advance anyway, most people only booked OEDEM 2 days before :-) |
| 21:32.05 | greentux | XorA|gone: prices will increase... |
| 21:33.27 | greentux | the astrid wasnt bad if i remind correctly. |
| 21:37.10 | flo_lap | greentux: the astrid s quite good and iirc they had a nice discount for online booking at the time of the year FOSDEM took place the last two years |
| 21:37.58 | greentux | ok, will mape a todo for january... |
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| 21:54.35 | woglinde | hi stefan |
| 21:55.12 | stefan_schmidt | hi woglinde |
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| 23:33.07 | woglinde | hi coredump |
| 23:33.12 | CoreDump|home | hey welp |
| 23:33.16 | CoreDump|home | hey woglinde |
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| 23:46.57 | CIA-33 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r8a77047e... 10/ (1 packages/liboil/liboil_0.3.11.bb): |
| 23:46.57 | CIA-33 | liboil: fix bug 3090 |
| 23:46.57 | CIA-33 | * liboil DEPENDS on "glib-2.0" |
| 23:46.57 | CIA-33 | * it is no uclibc bug |
| 23:46.57 | CIA-33 | * bump PR to 2 |
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