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| 01:47.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED by bankai.kasumi(AT)gmail.com |
| 01:47.06 | cdbot2 | * * bitbake-1.2.1.bb parallel make fails |
| 01:47.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id= |
| 01:48.13 | Henryk | hmm, there's the bug in the bugbot again: no bug number |
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| 10:56.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3255 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by zap(AT)homelink.ru |
| 10:56.07 | cdbot2 | * * Spitz amber LED not affected by /sys entries |
| 10:56.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3255 |
| 11:02.58 | dcordes | http://www.pastebin.ca/759632 why is do_unpack fontconfig looking for device_symbols.h in my ~ ? Is that a bug or fault in my setup? |
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| 11:38.32 | woglinde | morning |
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| 12:18.19 | mickeyl | good morning boys and girls |
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| 12:20.27 | Crofton | gm |
| 12:20.38 | koen | 'morning all |
| 12:20.52 | koen | the count for this moring: 1 exploded PSU, 1 broken cpu fan, 3 broken hd fans |
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| 12:21.29 | dcordes | koen: you maintain servers? |
| 12:21.42 | koen | only the ones in the closet here :) |
| 12:22.11 | mickeyl | morning koen |
| 12:22.14 | koen | s/ones/one/ |
| 12:22.16 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 12:22.53 | koen | mickeyl: I checked the neod menu again (with your 600x600 code still in) and it seems to add 600 pixels between each entry |
| 12:23.05 | koen | so the menu is 1200 pixel high on my a780 |
| 12:23.08 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 12:23.18 | mickeyl | that 600 pixels was a testing :) |
| 12:23.26 | mickeyl | was never supposed to be commited |
| 12:23.31 | mickeyl | I'm going to make it a fullscreen menu |
| 12:23.33 | mickeyl | soonish |
| 12:23.40 | koen | like the freesmartphone namespace :) |
| 12:23.45 | mickeyl | oops, right |
| 12:23.51 | mickeyl | i should be more careful ;) |
| 12:25.13 | koen | mickeyl: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/openmoko-progress |
| 12:25.30 | koen | should be readable in between exploding PSUs and failing fans |
| 12:26.12 | mickeyl | nice :) |
| 12:26.40 | koen | http://scap.linuxtogo.org/ has some more |
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| 12:27.23 | mickeyl | right. |
| 12:27.33 | mickeyl | i wish someone would add thumbnails to scap |
| 12:31.25 | koen | your method of sending dbus messages from C needs some work as well ;) |
| 12:31.34 | koen | you're doing it as I would do it |
| 12:31.48 | koen | system("dbus-send <foo> <bar>"); |
| 12:31.58 | koen | except more glib-ified :) |
| 12:34.05 | mickeyl | throwaway code, ya know |
| 12:34.28 | mickeyl | this is just for checking whether the stuff i have in my head works |
| 12:34.35 | mickeyl | if so, then i seriously start looking into OHM |
| 12:34.46 | koen | and hal |
| 12:34.48 | mickeyl | yep |
| 12:35.12 | mickeyl | i have one more week left to implement panels appearing on demand + turning on/off peripherals |
| 12:35.26 | mickeyl | then i will release the november snapshot and have to work on other things |
| 12:35.33 | mickeyl | for quite a while |
| 12:35.55 | koen | you want it to look like http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/1840647842/ |
| 12:36.04 | koen | and have panel visible only when needed |
| 12:36.26 | woglinde | hi koen |
| 12:36.27 | mickeyl | oh you mean the complete panel |
| 12:36.29 | mickeyl | interesting |
| 12:36.49 | koen | that screenshot is just AUX -> fullscreen |
| 12:36.57 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 12:37.36 | woglinde | *g* closing one bug a day would be good |
| 12:39.15 | koen | would still take us 2.5 years to close all bugs |
| 12:39.45 | woglinde | *g* I meant all developer |
| 12:39.47 | woglinde | s |
| 12:39.54 | woglinde | closing each one bug |
| 12:40.05 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.08 | koen | that's more like it |
| 12:40.25 | woglinde | hm there are plenty bug reports which are obsolete |
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| 12:44.18 | mickeyl | yeah, unfortunately |
| 12:49.14 | mickeyl | koen: actually, i consider rewriting neod in vala |
| 12:50.12 | mickeyl | ah, btw. |
| 12:50.16 | mickeyl | something i wanted to talk with you about |
| 12:51.17 | mickeyl | 1.) glib 2.14.1 works fine here. do we want to keep angstrom2007.1 locked down for the time being, or updating once in a while until the branch? |
| 12:52.16 | koen | gcc 4.2 and glibc 2.6 also work fine |
| 12:52.36 | koen | if you want newer stuff you should use 2008.1 :) |
| 12:52.48 | koen | unless there are pressing reasons to break the freeze |
| 12:53.22 | mickeyl | ok, let's discuss "pressing" ;) |
| 12:53.29 | mickeyl | glib 2.14.1 saves power |
| 12:54.10 | koen | send a mail to angstrom-distro-devel with your wishes and reasoning, wait 2 days and implement it :) |
| 12:54.18 | koen | since no-one will respond |
| 12:54.25 | koen | </bitter> |
| 12:56.13 | koen | I don't see a reason why we shouldn't update glib, but lets use the mailinglist to avoid people whining after the fact |
| 12:56.35 | mickeyl | righto |
| 12:56.37 | mickeyl | agreed |
| 12:57.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3256 has been created by lukas.gorris(AT)gmx.de |
| 12:57.06 | cdbot2 | * * fontconfig_2.4.1. bb not building due to error fetching device_symbols.h |
| 12:57.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3256 |
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| 13:52.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 3256 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by <koen> |
| 13:52.07 | cdbot2 | * * fontconfig_2.4.1. bb not building due to error fetching device_symbols.h |
| 13:52.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3256 |
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| 14:17.45 | mickeyl | bbiab, dist-upgrade |
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| 14:28.51 | mwester | koen, mickeyl: I would find the timeout option to the "read" command useful in busybox for openmoko -- are there any issues in turning on that option for busybox ash for angstrom in general, or should that be openmoko specific, or just leave it alone? |
| 14:29.38 | koen | it should be ok to turn it on for angstrom |
| 14:29.51 | koen | but as above, mailinglist, avoid whiners, etc |
| 14:30.35 | mwester | oe mailing list, or is there an angstrom one to use? |
| 14:33.48 | koen | angstrom-distro-devel |
| 14:34.29 | koen | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ -> contact for instructions |
| 14:34.32 | koen | brb |
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| 14:49.48 | Jin^eLD | re |
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| 15:24.57 | benlau2 | What is the meaning of |
| 15:25.00 | benlau2 | " the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: "? |
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| 15:25.23 | Crofton | mickeyl, ping |
| 15:26.10 | Jin^eLD | benlau2: from what I understand they were copied to the install directory but were not packaged (i.e. not put into an ipk) |
| 15:26.12 | mwester | benlau2: It means that the results of "ipkg install" will differ from the results of "make install" |
| 15:26.30 | benlau2 | ic |
| 15:26.45 | benlau2 | Then how can I mark those file be packaged by ipkg? |
| 15:27.53 | Jin^eLD | benlau: you need to list them in FILES |
| 15:28.27 | Jin^eLD | i.e. something like FILES_${PN} = "/stuff/in/weird/place*" |
| 15:29.45 | benlau2 | Thanks~ |
| 15:30.17 | koen | s/=/+=/ |
| 15:33.18 | benlau2 | I am trying to build openmoko-session2 package. It notes that /etc/matchbox/session is installed but not shipped. |
| 15:33.53 | benlau2 | As the file is listed in CONFFLIES_${PN}, it was failed to pack. |
| 15:34.36 | benlau2 | And then I have added a line " FILES_${PN}+="/${sysconfdir}/matchbox/session" into openmoko-session2.bb |
| 15:34.58 | benlau2 | The note is gone , however, it still complain : |
| 15:35.02 | benlau2 | *** Error: CONTROL/conffiles mentions conffile /etc/matchbox/session which does not exist |
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| 15:46.57 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:47.12 | mwester | g'morning! |
| 15:47.44 | mwester | (sorta, it's almost not morning any longer where you live) |
| 15:52.59 | chouimat | mwester hehe |
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| 17:21.50 | hrw | morning |
| 17:21.57 | Jin^eLD | evening :) |
| 17:22.38 | Jin^eLD | hrw: just woke up or really in a different timezone? |
| 17:22.43 | hrw | ~ugt |
| 17:22.53 | ibot | methinks ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 17:23.28 | Jin^eLD | wow, when I was greeting with morning at 18-1900 I really meant it :) used to sleep late... |
| 17:24.27 | hrw | brb |
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| 17:41.11 | hrw | re |
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| 17:57.03 | woglinde | re |
| 17:57.09 | Jin^eLD | wb |
| 17:57.33 | woglinde | hi jineld |
| 17:57.43 | woglinde | how ies celf going? |
| 17:57.59 | Jin^eLD | quite cool actually, last discussion right now |
| 18:01.32 | Jin^eLD | discussion about "best distro", with two commercial reps (mv/windriver) and oss ppl |
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| 18:28.37 | hrw | http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/11/03/phone-should-have-a-mirror/ |
| 18:37.57 | pH5 | hrw: in japan there are phones where the lcd turns into a mirror when you press a button |
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| 18:41.36 | hrw | good stff |
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| 18:50.59 | hrw | bye all |
| 18:56.07 | dcordes | pH5: there are also phones which measure your level of bad breathe |
| 18:59.29 | dcordes | seen that on tv |
| 18:59.37 | timtimred | are you saying pH5 has bad breath?? :) |
| 18:59.44 | dcordes | lol |
| 19:00.57 | dcordes | they said healthcare will be an important element in the celly market. They also showed a machine that measured different values from your sweat |
| 19:01.42 | timtimred | why? you arn't allowed to use phones in hospitals!!! |
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| 19:03.55 | dcordes | nonsense if you ask me. But there's peopele who like such things. See Marcin's blog entry with the mirror and neo fitting clothes :D |
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| 20:52.43 | gremlin[it] | hi all! someone here work (build images / software) for nolia N770 / N800 with OE ? |
| 21:01.00 | gremlin[it] | i want to know if is easy / difficult to create a new machine definition and kernel that include some binary only driver ... |
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| 21:01.25 | gremlin[it] | does N770/N800 behave in this way about nokia closed source "drivers" ? |
| 21:02.32 | timtimred | isnt there any n series support there already? |
| 21:03.03 | timtimred | you could hack in something that included a binary driver... |
| 21:07.57 | gremlin[it] | timtimred well i mean something like the binary only drivers of nvidia for graphic card ... |
| 21:08.52 | gremlin[it] | i would hack (move to OE) the neuros OSD ... it have some closed codecs and part of kernel to access the DSP |
| 21:09.56 | russf | A noob question for you gurus. I want to remove avahi-daemon and and avahi-autoipd from my angstrom build. What's the smart way to do that? |
| 21:10.50 | timtimred | move to oe from? |
| 21:13.59 | gremlin[it] | a plain cross-environment ... |
| 21:14.46 | gremlin[it] | there are kernel sources (about alal the sources i think) maybe some ugly part to manage the binary part of kernel i suppose ... |
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| 21:16.32 | zap | How up-to-date Maemo recipes in OE are? I can't seem to be able to build 'maemo-image' as some links on internet tell me |
| 21:16.57 | woglinde | gremlin hm for the binaryonlystuff I think you have to made your own .bb |
| 21:23.15 | gremlin[it] | woglinde : for userspace part surelly ... what i really don't know how to manage is the kernel ... |
| 21:23.58 | gremlin[it] | i just want to know if nokia N's have similar problem ad so take a look on their solution |
| 21:24.32 | robtaylor | gremlin[it]: the n800 doesnt really have much in teh way of closed source drivers |
| 21:26.11 | robtaylor | gremlin[it]: there's a single kernel module that implements some UMAC stuff, and i think only the cx3110x driveractually links to it |
| 21:26.55 | robtaylor | (well, uses any symbols in it, to be precise ;) |
| 21:29.54 | woglinde | gremlin look at the madwifi .bb |
| 21:30.05 | gremlin[it] | thanks ! |
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| 22:40.51 | Kensan | Hello |
| 22:42.20 | Kensan | I am trying to build nxssh which is based on openssh-4.7p1. |
| 22:42.37 | Kensan | has anybody tried building that in oe? |
| 22:47.35 | Kensan | it drops out during configure "checking for ls" with the message "build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/nxssh-3.0.0-21-r0/nxssh/configure: line 16884: syntax error near unexpected token `PROG_LS,'" |
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