| 00:00.05 | woglinde | PREFERRED_PROVIDERS = "-1" means practical dont choose this version |
| 00:00.21 | Crofton|home | what does require libtool_${PV}.bb do in a bb file? |
| 00:00.45 | woglinde | Crofton in inherit all from that .bb |
| 00:00.53 | woglinde | you can than override some methods |
| 00:00.58 | Crofton|home | will it inherit DEFAULT_PREFERENCE? |
| 00:01.03 | woglinde | often used for -native packages |
| 00:01.04 | mickeyl | Crofton: it's lexical including |
| 00:01.09 | Crofton|home | or just methods? |
| 00:01.10 | mickeyl | just like a preprocessor |
| 00:01.13 | woglinde | where you dont want to type |
| 00:01.17 | woglinde | all again |
| 00:01.28 | Crofton|home | what is the diff between include and require ... |
| 00:02.40 | Crofton|home | in other words, both libtool-cross and libtool-native "require" libtool |
| 00:03.02 | Crofton|home | If I set DefAULT_PREFERNCE = -1 in libtool, will that stop the other from building? |
| 00:03.42 | khem | and what does virtual/ mean in the RHS on PREFERRED_PROVIDERS |
| 00:04.30 | mickeyl | Crofton: require fails if the included file is not available. include silently ignores |
| 00:04.51 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 00:05.12 | Crofton|home | So I can set DEF_PREF in libtool and it will apply to native and cross? |
| 00:05.18 | mickeyl | ya |
| 00:05.26 | Crofton|home | because that is how I will push it :) |
| 00:05.29 | mickeyl | cool |
| 00:05.31 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 00:08.43 | woglinde | khem urgs sorry again I messed up DefAULT_PREFERNCE and PREFERRED_PROVIDERS |
| 00:09.15 | woglinde | khem if more than package can provide a lib eg. libc |
| 00:09.21 | woglinde | than we use virtual/bla |
| 00:09.47 | woglinde | with PREFERRED_PROVIDERS you can than choose which real lib eg. uclibc as libc you will have |
| 00:09.51 | woglinde | *sigh* |
| 00:09.56 | woglinde | its to late |
| 00:10.00 | woglinde | I will go to bed now |
| 00:12.24 | khem | ah ok now its clear |
| 00:12.28 | anithaxer | Maybe I will get help tomoroow.. |
| 00:12.35 | khem | what is OE_REVISION |
| 00:12.50 | woglinde | anithacker yes hrw will help you |
| 00:13.02 | woglinde | khem the actual check in state |
| 00:13.10 | khem | should I specify it in local.conf or bb computes |
| 00:13.14 | woglinde | you have checked out localy |
| 00:13.18 | khem | for me it says <unknown> |
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| 00:13.23 | woglinde | oehm |
| 00:13.24 | Crofton|home | khem, can you give a quick summary of what you are trying to do? |
| 00:13.50 | khem | Crofton|home, I am trying to build angstrom-console-image |
| 00:14.06 | Crofton|home | hmm, for what machine? |
| 00:14.21 | khem | Crofton|home, my ultimate aim is to use external toolchain but first I want to get started so I am trying to do what most people do |
| 00:14.29 | Crofton|home | good idea |
| 00:14.31 | khem | for arm osk5912 |
| 00:14.37 | Crofton|home | hmm |
| 00:14.51 | Crofton|home | I am machine menotr for omap5912osk |
| 00:15.06 | Crofton|home | are you trying anything "funny" |
| 00:15.12 | khem | haha no |
| 00:15.38 | khem | ultimately I would like to see OE booting on eglibc |
| 00:15.43 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 00:15.48 | Crofton|home | that is "funny" |
| 00:15.52 | Crofton|home | I do glibc |
| 00:16.01 | psycoman | khem: how eglibc create locales ? |
| 00:16.02 | Crofton|home | haven't tried uclibc |
| 00:16.06 | khem | but fun has not begun yet |
| 00:16.24 | Crofton|home | The stuff I care about uses c++ |
| 00:16.29 | khem | psycoman, it uses cross localedef |
| 00:17.05 | RP | khem: Is there any advantage to eglibc other than cross localedef? |
| 00:17.06 | khem | why my bb is not picking up OE_REV? any idea? |
| 00:17.13 | Crofton|home | khem, are you having any particualr problems? |
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| 00:17.32 | Crofton|home | you are also asking questions abot things I have never worried about :) |
| 00:17.44 | khem | Well eventually yes. It will be configurable like uclibc so you can throw out stuff u really dont need |
| 00:18.10 | Crofton|home | that will be good stuff to try |
| 00:18.20 | khem | Crofton|home, I have not been able to build OE once so far I know its the first cut that takes long |
| 00:18.42 | woglinde | NIS? |
| 00:18.45 | woglinde | *g* |
| 00:18.48 | Crofton|home | hmm |
| 00:18.53 | khem | so you get something which has glibc and uclibc (sizewise) |
| 00:19.00 | Crofton|home | what kind of probklems do you have? |
| 00:19.22 | khem | yeah a lot has been modularised |
| 00:19.49 | Crofton|home | I have been doing Efiak builds laltely, maybe I should have you try by looking at my local.conf? |
| 00:20.17 | woglinde | OE Build Configuration: |
| 00:20.17 | woglinde | BB_VERSION = "1.8.7" |
| 00:20.18 | woglinde | OE_REVISION = "846b700022a1ee0585934b72f12a52cf77a87bf2" |
| 00:20.20 | khem | Crofton|home, so far I was trying what you called funny things first I tried extrrnal toolchain that did not work so well then I tried eglibc that koen added yesterday that is having issues during install |
| 00:20.35 | woglinde | something similar should appear |
| 00:20.39 | Crofton|home | you should try the easy stuff first :) |
| 00:20.47 | khem | Crofton|home, thats a good idea send it over |
| 00:21.11 | woglinde | so nite |
| 00:21.19 | khem | Crofton|home, I am quite familiar with buildroot so I thought it would work |
| 00:21.28 | woglinde | khem maybee tomorrow I will try out eglibc |
| 00:21.43 | khem | woglinde, gute nacht |
| 00:21.51 | woglinde | khem uh |
| 00:21.58 | khem | woglinde, yes I could do it darn if I get it building |
| 00:22.00 | Crofton|home | http://pastebin.ca/643739 |
| 00:22.03 | woglinde | where the heck you know german |
| 00:22.09 | Crofton|home | now the warnings, |
| 00:22.18 | Crofton|home | comment out the libtool prefered version lines |
| 00:22.28 | khem | woglinge Ich hab in D'land gelebt :) |
| 00:22.36 | Crofton|home | the binary locale line stops you bulds qemu |
| 00:22.38 | woglinde | khem okay ;) |
| 00:22.40 | khem | woglinde, Dont go for grammar |
| 00:22.46 | Crofton|home | I'm not sure if that still neds to be there |
| 00:22.52 | khem | I sucked bigtime when I was there |
| 00:22.54 | Crofton|home | there where issues on Fedora |
| 00:23.13 | khem | Crofton|home, I am using Fedora 7 |
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| 00:23.29 | Crofton|home | There are some BBFILE* lines that point to some local bb files of mine |
| 00:23.32 | Crofton|home | comment them out |
| 00:23.49 | Crofton|home | adjust TMPDIR |
| 00:23.54 | woglinde | crofotn your local.conf is rather old |
| 00:23.59 | woglinde | in new ones |
| 00:24.07 | Crofton|home | I know :) |
| 00:24.13 | Crofton|home | but, it works for me :) |
| 00:24.16 | woglinde | yes |
| 00:24.29 | woglinde | in actual ones |
| 00:24.30 | woglinde | ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" |
| 00:24.33 | woglinde | has a comment |
| 00:24.39 | woglinde | what it does |
| 00:24.45 | Crofton|home | I need to go strip it down, but it has worked recently with the smae machine khem is trying to build for |
| 00:25.04 | woglinde | so now |
| 00:25.39 | Crofton|home | comment out the ansgtrom extra install line |
| 00:25.43 | anithaxer | When I try to run ettercap it tell me the screen needs to be at least 25x80 anyway to fix this? |
| 00:26.03 | NAbyss | anithaxer: Is your terminal 80x25, or is it smaller? |
| 00:26.32 | khem | Crofton|home, should I leave the libtool stuff in there ? |
| 00:26.44 | Crofton|home | you can delete or comment out |
| 00:26.53 | anithaxer | It is full screen |
| 00:26.59 | Crofton|home | currently I am testin g a build with libtool 1.5.24 or so |
| 00:27.11 | Crofton|home | delete, the bb files have not been pushed |
| 00:27.29 | RP | 'night all |
| 00:27.39 | anithaxer | It works when I ssh in but on the acutally zaurus it says my screen is to small |
| 00:27.42 | Crofton|home | gn RP |
| 00:27.54 | NAbyss | anithaxer: So decrease the fontsize. |
| 00:27.55 | Crofton|home | khem, what time zone are you in? |
| 00:28.03 | NAbyss | anithaxer: You need a 80x25 terminal to run the app. |
| 00:28.17 | anithaxer | How do i do that. I knew it was something simple like that, I am just new to angstrom and linux in general. |
| 00:28.35 | anithaxer | How would I decrease the font size? |
| 00:28.57 | NAbyss | anithaxer: Pick another font with xterm -fn fontname |
| 00:29.15 | anithaxer | I am using angstrom |
| 00:29.17 | anithaxer | busybox |
| 00:29.54 | anithaxer | brb food |
| 00:30.50 | khem | Crofton|home, Pacific |
| 00:31.10 | Crofton|home | crap EDY here |
| 00:31.13 | Crofton|home | er EDT |
| 00:31.43 | Crofton|home | you guys can stay up later then me :) |
| 00:31.55 | Crofton|home | pizza here |
| 00:32.24 | CIA-3 | 03daniel 07org.oe.dev * ra2c65d7b... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko2/openmoko-theme-standard2_svn.bb): openmoko-theme-standard2_svn.bb: Bump PR so the new theme is picked up |
| 00:32.35 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r367d58a7... 10/ (1 classes/patch.bbclass): patch.bbclass: Add minrev and maxrev support for patches, cleanup maxdate and mindate support |
| 00:32.47 | khem | Crofton|home, yes 3 hours |
| 00:33.20 | khem | Crofton|home, what is ossie in your local.conf |
| 00:34.50 | Crofton|home | ossie.mprg.org |
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| 00:42.05 | khem | Crofton|home, is ossie like sourceforge |
| 00:42.26 | Crofton|home | not really |
| 00:42.39 | Crofton|home | it is a software defined radio prject |
| 00:43.00 | khem | Crofton|home, I gave your local.conf a spin now but it is showning only 4980 packages earlier it was showing ~9900 |
| 00:43.44 | Crofton|home | yeah I see about 4500 or so |
| 00:43.47 | Crofton|home | weird |
| 00:44.03 | Crofton|home | that 9900 number seems wrong |
| 00:47.10 | anithaxer | Does anyone know how to decrease the font size of the konsole on angstrom |
| 00:56.00 | khem | Crofton|home, thanks I will drive home now the build is in progress |
| 00:56.11 | khem | I will let u know how it goes cu |
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| 01:03.52 | anithaxer | I was compiled ettercap natively on the zaurus on angstrom and I got this when doing ./configure |
| 01:03.52 | anithaxer | checking whether build environment is sane... configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files! |
| 01:03.52 | anithaxer | Anyway to fix that...? |
| 01:04.15 | NAbyss | anithaxer: Fix your date.. the zaurus doesn't have a RTC, so you need to either manually set the time, or sync via NTP |
| 01:05.13 | anithaxer | Ok, I just set it. |
| 01:05.32 | anithaxer | checking build system type... Invalid configuration `armv5tel-unknown-linux-': machine `armv5tel-unknown-linux' not recognized |
| 01:05.37 | anithaxer | configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub armv5tel-unknown-linux- failed |
| 01:05.42 | anithaxer | i suppose I cannot build natively? |
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| 01:47.53 | noidd | 'lo |
| 01:49.46 | noidd | Looks like I've just finished building the recipies for libgtk2-perl for openembedded. |
| 01:50.00 | noidd | and only one patch required! (for Glib.pm) |
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| 02:49.01 | khem | ping Crofton|home |
| 02:49.39 | khem | Crofton|home, I am seeing that for host compiler it is chosing arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-as |
| 02:49.48 | khem | I wonder whats wrong |
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| 05:03.16 | koen | ~botmail for zecke http://www.j5live.com/?p=395 |
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| 07:00.40 | khem | guys I am happy that I was able to build angstrom-console-image :) |
| 07:00.54 | khem | for first time |
| 07:01.10 | khem | However when I try to nfs boot the root file system it hangs :(( |
| 07:01.32 | khem | I am booting with kernel 2.6.22 |
| 07:01.56 | khem | the kernel is good because it could boot another non OE rfs |
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| 08:05.23 | XorA | morning |
| 08:06.51 | RP | morning XorA |
| 08:09.14 | zarath | รถ |
| 08:10.26 | lrg | ~fish XorA |
| 08:10.27 | ibot | ACTION slaps XorA around with a large trout |
| 08:10.40 | lrg | morning Richard |
| 08:10.52 | RP | hi Liam |
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| 08:22.25 | zarath | NOTE: package shasum-native-1.0-r1: task do_populate_staging: failed |
| 08:22.30 | zarath | frustrated... |
| 08:22.49 | zarath | top |
| 08:28.21 | hrw | morning |
| 08:29.18 | zarath | good morning |
| 08:29.52 | RP | hi hrw |
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| 08:40.36 | CIA-3 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ra49fe2e2... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Bumped svn rev to pick up new defconfig |
| 08:40.49 | hrw | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (0016/5003) [ 0 %]ERROR: 'FetchData' object has no attribute 'tag' while parsing /home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded/packages/xcb/libxcb_git.bb |
| 08:40.52 | hrw | argh |
| 08:47.45 | hrw | RP: any ideas? |
| 08:47.59 | RP | hrw: Not yet. I'm looking at it |
| 08:48.36 | hrw | ok |
| 08:52.07 | hrw | RP: looks like ";tag=master" is ok to fix it - am I right? |
| 08:54.04 | RP | hrw: no |
| 08:54.36 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie * r863 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): git.py: Fix tag problem |
| 08:54.45 | hrw | ok |
| 08:55.35 | RP | hrw: Try that |
| 08:56.24 | hrw | ok |
| 08:57.04 | hrw | 5003 recipes... |
| 08:57.19 | hrw | no errors now |
| 09:00.28 | RP | It does pause while checking git head revisions though :/ |
| 09:00.58 | RP | More encourangement for people to lock down the git packages I guess... |
| 09:03.08 | hrw | we need to sync oe/poky kernels again - 2.6.21 in oe is other then in poky when it comes to collie stuff |
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| 09:08.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2682 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 09:08.07 | cdbot2 | * * Fixed poodle_pm-r3.patch to compile for linux-rp-2.6.21 |
| 09:08.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2682 |
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| 09:18.08 | hrw | ~hail serial cables |
| 09:18.09 | ibot | ACTION bows down to serial cables and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 09:18.58 | florian | good morning |
| 09:19.03 | hrw | hi florian |
| 09:28.15 | XorA | Bernardo: there is a guy on #angstrom gets the whiteout problem when he inserts his wifi card, ever seen that? |
| 09:29.07 | Bernardo | no, with the latest hack/workaround my sandisk plus works perfectly |
| 09:29.31 | Bernardo | the problem is just when trying to play movies with mplayer using "-vo pxa" |
| 09:29.50 | Bernardo | a full system hang, and no output to the serial console... |
| 09:31.07 | Bernardo | There was someone here yesterday with the same problem on a spitz, I think |
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| 09:33.53 | Bernardo | anyway, I'm starting a angstrom-x11-image build now to do some more tests, maybe it's a incompatibility with opie |
| 09:34.23 | XorA | Bernardo: no, that was general mplayer bugs |
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| 09:47.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2703 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by joaquinduran(AT)adtelecom.es |
| 09:47.06 | cdbot2 | * * unable to compile kdrive 1.3.0.0 |
| 09:47.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2703 |
| 09:47.40 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf3673f80... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.21.bb): linux-rp 2.6.21: fix poodle build - close #2682 |
| 09:47.46 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r8d78f48d... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-app/xrandr_1.2.0.bb): xrandr: Remove patch that does not apply any more. |
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| 10:37.39 | Crofton|home | hmmm |
| 10:38.09 | Crofton|home | my libtool test build failed in makedpend-native when it could not find xproto? |
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| 11:00.50 | Crofton|home | anyone else having problems build makedpend-native? |
| 11:09.46 | hrw | building |
| 11:10.49 | hrw | NOTE: package makedepend-native-1_1.0.1-r1: task do_build: completed |
| 11:11.06 | hrw | but this builddir has lot of stuff built |
| 11:11.47 | hrw | right - it lack xproto-native |
| 11:12.28 | Crofton|home | so it works for you? |
| 11:12.42 | hrw | if I add DEPENDS = "xproto-native" |
| 11:13.09 | Crofton|home | ahy |
| 11:13.11 | Crofton|home | ah! |
| 11:13.36 | Crofton|home | good, I was concerned it was libtool-1.5.24 ... |
| 11:14.16 | Crofton|home | libtool 1.5.24 looks like it fixed the relink problem I am having with libnetfilter_queue |
| 11:14.28 | Crofton|home | so I am trying some builds with new version |
| 11:14.47 | Crofton|home | will you push fix? |
| 11:15.25 | hrw | yes |
| 11:15.33 | Crofton|home | thanks hrw! |
| 11:16.21 | hrw | thx to you |
| 11:23.55 | Crofton|home | ok, bilding more |
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| 11:28.23 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5825a3b3... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-util/makedepend-native_1.0.1.bb): makedepend-native: add DEPENDS on xproto-native - spotted by Crofton |
| 11:39.26 | Crofton|home | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `makedepend.@APP_MAN_SUFFIX@', needed by `all-am'. Stop. |
| 11:39.35 | Crofton|home | now getting on makedepend-native ... |
| 11:42.37 | Crofton|home | hrw, maybe another dependency added? |
| 11:43.33 | hrw | thats bug in autoconf/automake |
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| 11:47.09 | Crofton|home | ah, so I need to enable the more recent ones? |
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| 11:52.13 | hrw | no - it should work with any |
| 11:52.14 | Crofton|home | failing for me |
| 11:52.14 | Crofton|home | looks like configure did do the substitution for .@APP_MAN_SUFFIX@ |
| 11:52.56 | Crofton|home | ah I have these lines in the confiugre log |
| 11:53.04 | Crofton|home | /home/balister/oe/tmp/work/i686-linux/makedepend-native-1_1.0.1-r1/makedepend-1. |
| 11:53.05 | Crofton|home | 0.1/configure: line 3589: XORG_MANPAGE_SECTIONS: command not found |
| 11:53.05 | Crofton|home | /home/balister/oe/tmp/work/i686-linux/makedepend-native-1_1.0.1-r1/makedepend-1. |
| 11:53.05 | Crofton|home | 0.1/configure: line 3590: XORG_RELEASE_VERSION: command not found |
| 12:07.25 | Crofton|home | the XORG_ macros from configure.ac do not get expanded. |
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| 12:14.04 | hrw | bye |
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| 12:26.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2718 has been created by vermaas(AT)jmdejong.nl |
| 12:26.07 | cdbot2 | * * cm-x270 kernel 2.6.20 support for rtc, sound and touchscreen |
| 12:26.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2718 |
| 12:30.03 | psycoman | i want compile 1.7.11 gnumeric but it is a dev branch, how is the best way ? create another oe brach for personal-dev packages ? |
| 12:31.38 | Crofton|home | I use BBCOLLECTIONS for local work |
| 12:33.33 | psycoman | Crofton|home: sorry can you explain that, im new in bitbake tool |
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| 12:34.57 | Crofton|home | It is on theweb page somewhere .. |
| 12:35.16 | Crofton|home | http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch04s02.html#id870544 |
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| 12:51.42 | psycoman | Crofton|home: thnkx |
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| 13:08.39 | Crofton|home | Anyone familiar with XORG_MANPAGE_SECTIONS and XORG_RELEASE_VERSION autoconf macros? |
| 13:08.55 | woglinde | he crofton |
| 13:09.05 | woglinde | who is merging? |
| 13:09.08 | woglinde | the heads? |
| 13:09.12 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r2f6a7570... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): tslib: Add dummy ts.conf for htctornado |
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| 13:11.54 | woglinde | florian did you merge yours and hrw's double head? |
| 13:12.10 | Crofton|home | I just pulled and only got one head ... |
| 13:12.14 | woglinde | hm |
| 13:12.18 | woglinde | let me see |
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| 13:16.11 | woglinde | hm |
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| 13:22.39 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:24.38 | woglinde | hi chouimat |
| 13:25.36 | psycoman | hi chouimat |
| 13:25.49 | woglinde | hi psycoman |
| 13:26.04 | daurn | hi chouimat |
| 13:32.04 | Crofton|home | is today some kind of holiday in EU? |
| 13:33.21 | woglinde | 4hm no |
| 13:33.24 | woglinde | why? |
| 13:33.31 | woglinde | its friday |
| 13:33.41 | Crofton|home | I need someone to explain my problem to me :) |
| 13:33.43 | woglinde | 1 pm is end of the week |
| 13:33.51 | Crofton|home | heh |
| 13:34.02 | Crofton|home | In America, we work all day on Friday! |
| 13:34.25 | woglinde | okay I cheated |
| 13:34.32 | XorA | in uk I am forced to work all day :-( |
| 13:34.39 | woglinde | only gourverment employess made a cut at 1 pm |
| 13:34.54 | Crofton|home | well, the less government dos the better :) |
| 13:34.57 | XorA | lazy gits :-D |
| 13:35.51 | woglinde | executives I mean |
| 13:35.58 | woglinde | if the translator is right |
| 13:36.15 | woglinde | or public official |
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| 13:46.10 | RP | morning mickeyl |
| 13:46.28 | woglinde | hi rp |
| 13:47.06 | Crofton|home | Anyone familiar with XORG_MANPAGE_SECTIONS and XORG_RELEASE_VERSION autoconf macros? |
| 13:47.14 | Crofton|home | I've been having a problem :) |
| 13:48.06 | Crofton|home | those macros are not getting expanded in the makedepend-native configure.ac |
| 13:48.30 | RP | Crofton|home: You have built the xorg-macros package? |
| 13:48.42 | RP | or whatever its called... |
| 13:48.47 | Crofton|home | dunno |
| 13:48.56 | Crofton|home | and I just nuked tmp to start over |
| 13:49.31 | Crofton|home | should makedepend-native have a depends for that? |
| 13:49.33 | mickeyl | morning RP |
| 13:49.43 | psycoman | using collections can i have mutiple dl_dirs ? |
| 13:50.01 | Crofton|home | psycoman, I don't think so |
| 13:50.15 | RP | psycoman: no |
| 13:50.37 | psycoman | bitbake have a wish list ? :) |
| 13:51.19 | RP | psycoman: You can file a feature request bug I guess. Patches are welcome too ;-) |
| 13:51.49 | RP | psycoman: Why not just add one directory as a mirror? and use the other as the DL_DIR |
| 13:51.51 | psycoman | RP: patch will be nice, maybe i try it. |
| 13:52.22 | psycoman | RP: i dont see it |
| 13:52.27 | RP | psycoman: I don't see how you can connect DL_DIR and collections tbh |
| 13:53.04 | psycoman | im tring to copile gnumeric-dev branch |
| 13:53.17 | RP | psycoman: ok |
| 13:53.23 | psycoman | wait thinking ehhe |
| 13:53.31 | psycoman | english problems :) |
| 13:54.23 | psycoman | so i dont want put dev thinks in .dev local dir so Crofton|home tellme about bbfile collections |
| 13:55.01 | RP | psycoman: Thats fine. You do have to share the DL_DIR though |
| 13:55.03 | psycoman | so i have now 2 repository |
| 13:55.11 | psycoman | yeao i know |
| 13:55.18 | psycoman | s/yeao/yeap |
| 13:55.53 | psycoman | this is not a problem |
| 13:56.16 | psycoman | but will be nice if i can have a dl_dir per repository |
| 13:56.20 | psycoman | just for organize |
| 13:57.59 | RP | psycoman: The way bitbake handles it internally will make that near impossible |
| 13:59.59 | psycoman | RP: dont worrie, i dont need that really |
| 14:02.00 | hrw | re |
| 14:02.34 | RP | wb hrw |
| 14:08.02 | rwhitby | RP: is poky 3 meant to work on a C700 ? |
| 14:08.13 | RP | rwhitby: Its too big, right? |
| 14:08.17 | rwhitby | yeah |
| 14:08.21 | noidd | I saw the release announcement for poky on digg |
| 14:08.24 | noidd | looks shiny |
| 14:08.49 | RP | rwhitby: This is the problem when you test on a c760 all the time :} |
| 14:09.02 | rwhitby | RP: no biggie, I got a free c700 the other day, and I wanted to get a taste of that OpenHand goodness ;-) |
| 14:10.23 | RP | rwhitby: ok. I'll make a note to see if I can cut down the image size a bit at some point for c7x0... |
| 14:10.44 | rwhitby | thx |
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| 14:18.04 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf3927b54... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): psplash: add OpenMoko branding |
| 14:18.09 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r056153b8... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb): openmoko: ship psplash |
| 14:18.49 | Crofton|home | mickeyl, will openmoko really get a wireless lan adapter? |
| 14:19.04 | mickeyl | Crofton|home: GTA02 will sport wifi. |
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| 14:20.09 | woglinde | *g* |
| 14:20.23 | psycoman | men bitbake handling file is so damn slow |
| 14:21.01 | woglinde | psycoman update bitbake |
| 14:21.10 | woglinde | and its only the first time parsing |
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| 14:23.59 | hrw | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2704 - no objections to push? |
| 14:26.53 | mickeyl | let me check |
| 14:27.11 | mickeyl | psycoman: you wouldn't say that knowing where we came from :D |
| 14:27.24 | mickeyl | hrw: go for it. |
| 14:27.38 | Crofton|home | mickeyl, it has gotten slower again .... |
| 14:28.03 | Crofton|home | I'm about to push libtool-1.5.24 with DEF_PREF="-1" |
| 14:28.14 | mickeyl | Crofton|home: good. i'll have a go at using it next week |
| 14:28.37 | Crofton|home | I can't build images, but I suspect other problems atm |
| 14:28.57 | Crofton|home | and it is time to do thesis work |
| 14:29.06 | psycoman | mickeyl: what ? |
| 14:29.15 | hrw | speaking about updating components... poky works with autoconf 2.61/automake 1.9.6/m4 1.4.8/pkg-config 0.22 |
| 14:29.24 | mickeyl | psycoman: nevermind. just a witty remark about how slow it was 2 years ago |
| 14:29.28 | psycoman | woglinde: always i change any thing the parse slowdown |
| 14:30.21 | psycoman | mickeyl: ah k a goit it, sorry my bad english :), and i see the performance going better but the svn problem put it down again :( |
| 14:31.16 | Crofton|home | mickeyl, I think the sql version of bb is slower .... |
| 14:31.32 | mickeyl | Crofton|home: possible. but it's the first iteration. |
| 14:32.04 | psycoman | what version bb uses? |
| 14:32.26 | RP | Crofton|home: Slower since when? |
| 14:32.59 | Crofton|home | I did a svn update against the stable branch and it feels much slower |
| 14:33.19 | RP | Crofton|home: Just since last night? |
| 14:33.35 | RP | If so, thats just because of the number of unlocked down git versions... |
| 14:33.44 | Crofton|home | I have 1.8.7 |
| 14:33.50 | Crofton|home | I updated a few days back |
| 14:34.00 | RP | Crofton|home: and you updated OE.dev at the same time? |
| 14:34.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2704 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <hrw> |
| 14:34.06 | cdbot2 | * * native-quilt reads .quiltrc |
| 14:34.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2704 |
| 14:34.14 | Crofton|home | yeah .dev is current |
| 14:34.22 | Crofton|home | Last Changed Rev: 861 |
| 14:34.34 | Crofton|home | from -1.8 |
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| 14:34.40 | hrw | ~seen cbrake |
| 14:34.48 | ibot | cbrake <n=cbrake@oh-69-34-21-229.sta.embarqhsd.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #edev, 6d 18h 41m 19s ago, saying: 'prpplague: always something ...'. |
| 14:35.59 | Bernardo | mickeyl: I'm unable to build psplash now, with your changes http://pastebin.ca/644365 |
| 14:36.01 | hrw | ibot: botmail cbrake Can you look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2706 (should be trivial config change) and http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2718 in free time? |
| 14:36.40 | mickeyl | Bernardo: argh, ~lart me. sorry, will fix in a minute |
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| 14:39.03 | Bernardo | mickeyl: np, thanks |
| 14:39.08 | mickeyl | Bernardo: pull. |
| 14:41.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1001 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by <hrw> |
| 14:41.07 | cdbot2 | * * bluez/bluez-utils-dbus_2.25.bb bcm203x problem |
| 14:41.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1001 |
| 14:41.26 | Crofton|home | libtool-1.5.24 pushed |
| 14:42.03 | Bernardo | mickeyl: rebuilding now |
| 14:42.39 | hrw | Crofton|home: did you were able to build image with it? |
| 14:42.50 | Crofton|home | not quite |
| 14:42.57 | Crofton|home | but I think the problems are not related |
| 14:43.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1195 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by <hrw> |
| 14:43.07 | cdbot2 | * * faad2-2.0-r1 is not gcc4 safe |
| 14:43.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1195 |
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| 14:43.49 | Crofton|home | it did build libnetfilter_queue, which would not build with libtool-1.5.10 |
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| 14:54.24 | CIA-3 | 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r582846d2... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:54.24 | CIA-3 | libtool : Add bb files for libtool-1.5.24 support. This version seems to |
| 14:54.24 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.29 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r4f7ef143... 10/ (1 classes/patch.bbclass): patch.bbclass: give empty file for quilt so it will not use config from user homedir - closes #2704 (code from Poky) |
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| 14:56.43 | Bernardo | mickeyl: it built, now it's zaurusd that is missing a dependency on tslib - but that one is easy, just have to build tslib before |
| 14:58.53 | Bernardo | oops. |
| 14:59.45 | Bernardo | tslib is already built - looks like a pkgconfig problem - http://pastebin.ca/644391 |
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| 15:02.03 | mrdata | hi all |
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| 15:20.50 | Crofton|work | so glibc build disables parallel make? |
| 15:21.16 | RP | Crofton|work: It shouldn't? |
| 15:21.21 | Crofton|work | hmm |
| 15:21.58 | Crofton|work | PARALLELMFLAGS= CVSOPTS= |
| 15:23.40 | CosmicPenguin | yeah - if I remember correctly, glibc dislikes parallel make |
| 15:23.52 | CosmicPenguin | The damn thing is lucky if it compiles at all, if you ask me |
| 15:24.03 | Crofton|work | heh |
| 15:27.00 | koen_ | hi all |
| 15:27.32 | Crofton|work | gm |
| 15:30.33 | RP | hi koen |
| 15:33.08 | hrw | bye all |
| 15:33.13 | Crofton|work | gn |
| 15:35.30 | koen | Crofton|work: ask lardman about using the dsp on omap, he figured out some stuff |
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| 15:35.53 | Crofton|work | hmm, where does he hang out? |
| 15:36.04 | koen | ~seen lardman |
| 15:36.06 | ibot | lardman is currently on #maemo (1d 4h 32m 26s), last said: 'ah, button-press-event'. |
| 15:36.06 | Crofton|work | does he have bb files for the bridge stuff? |
| 15:36.08 | koen | !seen lardman |
| 15:36.11 | cdbot2 | I found 6 matches to your query. Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): lardman|gone lardman lardman|afk lardman_ lardman|lunch. lardman|gone (n=lardman@enpc-smm11.bath.ac.uk) was last seen quitting from #angstrom 1 day, 4 hours, 17 minutes ago stating (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). |
| 15:36.42 | Crofton|work | I willl definitely look out for him |
| 15:37.08 | Crofton|work | need to get lunch now |
| 15:37.17 | Crofton|work | thanks koen |
| 15:37.28 | Crofton|work | I did push the libtool-1.5.24 bb files |
| 15:37.39 | Crofton|work | they should all have def_pref -1 |
| 15:37.57 | Crofton|work | still testing at home, ran into some other issues also (hopefully unrelated) |
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| 15:56.10 | CosmicPenguin | koen: which one are you rooting for webkit, or XLUrunner? :) |
| 15:57.19 | ade|desk | webkit webkit webkit |
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| 16:17.30 | koen | CosmicPenguin: webkit ofcourse :) |
| 16:18.04 | CosmicPenguin | Few are happy with the memory usage of XLUrunner |
| 16:18.10 | CosmicPenguin | I for one, welcome something different |
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| 16:18.55 | koen | mozilla doesn't even run on a recent arm system due to libnspr being horrendously broken |
| 16:19.07 | koen | pb_ submitted bugfixes for that over two years ago |
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| 16:30.29 | koen | any exciting stuff happened today? |
| 16:32.16 | koen | XorA|gone: both blackfin and avr32 tout realtime 30fps h264 decoding at every low power consumption |
| 16:32.36 | koen | iirc avr32 at 100MHz and blackfin at 300-ish MHz |
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| 17:00.56 | rob_w | how do i overcome a package autotools install which checks for root permissions ? |
| 17:01.13 | woglinde | args |
| 17:01.46 | woglinde | again two heads |
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| 17:06.33 | Crofton|work | woglinde, do you have local changes committed and not pushed? |
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| 17:06.39 | Crofton|work | khem, gm |
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| 17:07.01 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:07.01 | woglinde | mtn: 52580cee5bed5696a392f8553aaab20b2c6af883 rpurdie@openembedded.org 2007-08-03T16:51 |
| 17:07.03 | khem_ | Crofton|work, moin moin |
| 17:07.06 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r52580cee... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): git: 1.4.4.2 -> 1.5.2.3 (from poky) |
| 17:07.14 | woglinde | args |
| 17:07.20 | Crofton|work | did the build finish? |
| 17:07.41 | khem_ | Crofton|work, Thanks a bunches I could build angstrom-console-image |
| 17:07.53 | woglinde | khem with eglibc? |
| 17:08.04 | Crofton|work | crawl, then walk, then run :) |
| 17:08.09 | khem_ | Crofton|work, no no not yet thats the next thing |
| 17:08.13 | Crofton|work | ok, I'll bbiab |
| 17:08.21 | Crofton|work | need to walk home and write some more |
| 17:08.31 | woglinde | go crofton |
| 17:08.38 | khem_ | although the rfs is not booting with my kernel |
| 17:08.55 | Crofton|work | khem, image uses eabi, do you have eabi support in kernel? |
| 17:09.25 | Crofton|work | http://ossie.mprg.org/OSK_Notes |
| 17:09.34 | Crofton|work | for flashing |
| 17:09.45 | Crofton|work | I haven't tested via nfs in a long time |
| 17:09.57 | woglinde | nfsroot rocks |
| 17:10.05 | Crofton|work | yes, but it was slow for me |
| 17:10.12 | woglinde | hu? |
| 17:10.22 | woglinde | on simpad its faster than the jffs2 on the falsh |
| 17:10.25 | woglinde | *g* |
| 17:10.26 | Crofton|work | I think I had memory limitations |
| 17:10.47 | Crofton|work | how much ram in simpad? |
| 17:10.51 | woglinde | 64mb |
| 17:10.55 | Crofton|work | 32m in osk |
| 17:10.57 | khem_ | Crofton|work, yes its EABI infact same kernel boots another rfs |
| 17:11.01 | woglinde | oh okay |
| 17:11.03 | Crofton|work | and I was running CORBA on the OSK :) |
| 17:11.24 | Crofton|work | khem, when does it hang? |
| 17:12.01 | woglinde | what the hell |
| 17:12.02 | woglinde | corba |
| 17:12.06 | woglinde | this is nasty |
| 17:12.07 | Crofton|work | :) |
| 17:12.16 | Crofton|work | and I had XERCES xml parser |
| 17:12.22 | woglinde | jesus |
| 17:12.26 | Crofton|work | I have removed the XERCES aml parser |
| 17:13.22 | Crofton|work | ok, I need to go hide before people try to talk to me |
| 17:13.31 | woglinde | urgs |
| 17:13.38 | woglinde | where this comes from? -> application/x-redhat-package-manager |
| 17:13.50 | khem_ | Crofton|work, I am doing nfs boot and setting init=/bin/ash it dies there itself |
| 17:14.15 | woglinde | khem hm looks like libc problem |
| 17:14.34 | koen | 'init=/bin/busybox ash' |
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| 17:14.46 | woglinde | je koen |
| 17:14.54 | khem_ | Crofton|work, It could be that the kernel I am booting with is 2.6.22 and libc is compiled against 2.6.20 I think |
| 17:15.02 | koen | busybox has troubles with deducing how it's called when booting it directly |
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| 17:15.23 | khem_ | koen, I think the links are setup in busybox so /bin/ash should work as well |
| 17:15.28 | woglinde | hm what let me think khem build a real ash |
| 17:15.54 | khem_ | I will try the new option give me few secs |
| 17:20.24 | woglinde | RP with python2.5 I see sometimes -> __builtin__:27: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated |
| 17:20.28 | woglinde | from bitbake |
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| 17:23.47 | khem_ | koen, http://rafb.net/p/21ezZp15.html |
| 17:24.34 | khem_ | btw. How do i get uimage for the kernel |
| 17:25.06 | koen | KERNEL_IMAGETYPE_<machine> = "uImage" in your kernel recipe |
| 17:25.34 | woglinde | *g* or put manual the uboot header in front of zImage |
| 17:25.41 | khem_ | this should be added to my local.conf I believe |
| 17:26.11 | woglinde | urgs git-native fails at install |
| 17:26.13 | khem_ | it needs mkimage to build it do we have this utility in OE |
| 17:26.31 | woglinde | khem it comes with uboot |
| 17:26.50 | woglinde | | install -m644 lib/tclIndex '/devel/arm/oetmp2/staging/i686-linux/lib' |
| 17:26.51 | woglinde | | /devel/arm/oetmp2/staging/i686-linux/bin/install-sh: ./-m644 does not exist. |
| 17:26.56 | woglinde | git |
| 17:26.56 | woglinde | -native |
| 17:27.10 | woglinde | will figure later |
| 17:27.13 | woglinde | supper now |
| 17:28.08 | koen | khem_: DEPENDS += "u-boot-mkimage-gta01-native" |
| 17:31.21 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r976e8ddd... 10/ (1 contrib/mtn2cl/mtn2cl.sh): |
| 17:31.21 | CIA-3 | contrib/mtn2cl: saves last used revision to get all changes since last changelog |
| 17:31.22 | CIA-3 | * remove the file called 'oldrev' to disable this behaviour |
| 17:31.22 | CIA-3 | * bugzilla report are still 'last week' |
| 17:31.26 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra0e7e86d... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): psplash: make openmoko psplash openmoko specific, not machine specific |
| 17:38.26 | Crofton|home | http://pastebin.ca/644564 |
| 17:38.35 | Crofton|home | does this look familiar to anyone? |
| 17:44.02 | psycoman | can some one link-me to a howto use qemuarm :) |
| 17:44.54 | Crofton|home | looks like the stdc++ lib is not appearing on the link line ....... |
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| 17:45.47 | rschuster | hi |
| 17:45.55 | woglinde | hi rschuster |
| 17:46.25 | rschuster | how can I let an -svn package try to fetch latest sources? |
| 17:46.29 | rschuster | hi woglinde |
| 17:47.23 | woglinde | SRC_URI = "svn://midpath.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/midpath;module=trunk;proto=https |
| 17:47.56 | koen | Crofton|home: the 'standard' toolchain breakage on ppc603e :( |
| 17:48.13 | koen | Crofton|home: LDFLAGS += " -lstc++ " as a workaround |
| 17:48.45 | Crofton | LDFLAGS_powerpc? |
| 17:48.56 | Crofton | ah |
| 17:49.03 | Crofton | libusb has it as CXXFLAGS |
| 17:49.12 | Crofton | should change to LDFLAGS? |
| 17:49.50 | Crofton | CXXFLAGS with linker arg makes no sense |
| 17:50.45 | Crofton | hmm same problem |
| 17:50.50 | woglinde | hm I will disbale Tcl support for git locally |
| 17:50.56 | Crofton | bte this is with new libtool |
| 17:51.39 | rschuster | woglinde: yeah but think of the following. I try to build midpath today and it fetches the current sources. lets suppose there is a bug in them and guillaum fixes that in his repo. how can I get this new sources in OE? AFAIK OE will use the already fetched and tar.gz'ed sources now? |
| 17:52.13 | woglinde | rschuster delete the tar.gz at your sources dir |
| 17:52.19 | woglinde | or bump PR |
| 17:52.32 | woglinde | hm no |
| 17:52.37 | woglinde | bump pr would not work |
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| 17:59.28 | Crofton|home | koen, should I change the do_configure method to use the gnuconfiguze;libtoolize --force or_runconf style? |
| 18:00.50 | koen | I don't think that would matter |
| 18:01.56 | rob_w | i created a bb file for capi4k-utils and await a shared object libcap20.so but i only get libcapi20.la and libcapi20.a .. do i nee dto tell the package to link it as shared somehow ? |
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| 18:08.45 | rschuster | rob_w: the .so is probably already packaged |
| 18:09.15 | rob_w | no certainly not |
| 18:09.19 | psycoman | pkgconfig .22 break some thing ? |
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| 18:13.31 | woglinde | urgs |
| 18:13.38 | woglinde | the git compil is horrible borken |
| 18:21.22 | woglinde | who is git maintainer? |
| 18:22.39 | antihaxe1 | woglinde, could you help me with my WCF12? |
| 18:22.57 | woglinde | antihaxe1 hm couldnt hrw help you? |
| 18:26.47 | antihaxe1 | Hes not here. |
| 18:27.33 | antihaxe1 | Btw, is there any special procedure to getting the dlink 660 working? I have that card to butno joy just ordered an ambicom hoepfully that will work |
| 18:39.57 | koen | woglinde: remember: git is coded bu kernel hackers |
| 18:40.25 | koen | woglinde: 'sane buildsystem' and 'api stability' mean nothing to those people |
| 18:41.20 | woglinde | hehe |
| 18:41.39 | psycoman | :) |
| 18:41.40 | woglinde | I assume we dont need tcl/tk support in git |
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| 18:41.58 | woglinde | koen hopefully the hacked a configure.ac |
| 18:42.21 | koen | woglinde: at ELC robtaylor said something like "pass --something-foo to configure" and people started laughing and muttering "if only it used autotools" |
| 18:43.05 | woglinde | hm |
| 18:43.13 | woglinde | may I dont understand this |
| 18:43.27 | woglinde | okay I will resume my bath |
| 18:43.35 | psycoman | koen: why not pkgconfig_0.22 is used i dont see any reference in bugtrace |
| 18:43.37 | woglinde | and then check in new git recipes |
| 18:44.44 | koen | psycoman: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-July/002615.html |
| 18:44.48 | koen | it's scheduled to be activated in ~2 weeks |
| 18:46.40 | psycoman | pkgconfig no native is olny used if i need compile some thing onboard right |
| 18:46.41 | psycoman | ? |
| 18:48.32 | psycoman | sorry, i already know the answer |
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| 18:49.50 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.47 | psycoman | i know, i make a question too fast, and not think before it :) |
| 18:52.48 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.49 | psycoman | ERROR: QA issue: libgobject-2.0.la failed sanity test (reference to workdir or installed) |
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| 19:05.08 | Crofton|home | my libusb problem seems independent of libtool version |
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| 19:05.54 | robtaylor | koen: can i build stuff for the TomTom using oe? |
| 19:10.37 | koen | robtaylor: afaik, yes |
| 19:10.46 | koen | robtaylor: poke keesj, he works there :) |
| 19:12.09 | Crofton|home | er cries |
| 19:19.03 | Crofton|home | libusb used to build for me |
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| 19:20.21 | koen | Crofton|home: I debugged it as far as "once in a while OE builds a broken toolchain, symptons are libusb and enchant failing to build" |
| 19:21.02 | Crofton|home | how does it get better? |
| 19:21.16 | koen | it doesn't |
| 19:21.30 | koen | I remove tmp, rebuild it works (or not) |
| 19:21.34 | koen | *really* annoying |
| 19:21.43 | Crofton|home | koen, understatement |
| 19:22.03 | Crofton|home | I have been doing this for the past 24 hours |
| 19:22.18 | Crofton|home | changing versions of libtool/pkgconfig/autoconf |
| 19:22.44 | koen | I really don't know what is causing it |
| 19:23.17 | Crofton|home | the good news is I do not think my problem was due to the newer libtool |
| 19:23.25 | Crofton|home | I need that for a package |
| 19:23.31 | Crofton|home | newer pkgconfig for another |
| 19:23.37 | robtaylor | koen: coool :) |
| 19:23.51 | Crofton|home | I am trying to get OE involved in wireless network research :) |
| 19:24.03 | koen | I forgot is tomtom is using harry potter toolchains or not |
| 19:24.12 | koen | s/is/if/ |
| 19:24.14 | robtaylor | koen: i want to have soemthing in my car that does gps and i can make download tracks from a home upnp server ;) |
| 19:24.23 | robtaylor | koen: so maybe tomtom's winning :) |
| 19:24.47 | robtaylor | koen: harry potter toolchains? |
| 19:24.49 | koen | robtaylor: asking keesj is probably your best bet |
| 19:25.15 | Crofton|home | world is rebuilding |
| 19:25.15 | robtaylor | keesj: there? |
| 19:25.17 | koen | robtaylor: http://www.codesourcery.com/ toolcahins |
| 19:25.24 | robtaylor | koen: ahhh |
| 19:25.45 | Crofton|home | apparently my needs two intros, one for people that will read it, and one for people that only read intros |
| 19:26.38 | koen | robtaylor: I'm trying to build hildon-1 so I can use maemo-mapper on a non-nokia device |
| 19:26.50 | robtaylor | koen: nice :) |
| 19:26.55 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r10bc51a5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc): preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc: update keylaunch version |
| 19:27.01 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r9533e255... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-filemanager/gpe-filemanager_0.30.bb): gpe-filemanager: add 0.30 |
| 19:27.03 | robtaylor | koen: well its an officeal gnome project now :) |
| 19:27.29 | koen | robtaylor: is it in gnome svn already? |
| 19:28.21 | robtaylor | hmm, doesnt seem so yet |
| 19:28.58 | robtaylor | http://live.gnome.org/Hildon/MigrationToGnome |
| 19:29.00 | koen | robtaylor: I wonder if the scn module will have a changelog ;) |
| 19:30.41 | robtaylor | koen: it'll have to |
| 19:31.03 | robtaylor | gnome rules apply |
| 19:32.08 | koen | from my POV gnome has no rules if you have $$$$$$$ |
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| 19:42.14 | koen | what was the trick again to see the commands ran by a script? |
| 19:42.16 | koen | set -e ? |
| 19:42.56 | CosmicPenguin | -x |
| 19:43.15 | CosmicPenguin | -e makes it error out immediately |
| 19:43.22 | CosmicPenguin | when it sees an error |
| 19:43.23 | koen | thanks |
| 19:48.28 | koen | +x or -x? |
| 19:50.34 | CosmicPenguin | -x |
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| 19:52.25 | koen | aha |
| 19:52.43 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.44 | woglinde | re |
| 19:53.01 | koen | woglinde: wb |
| 19:54.06 | Crofton|home | Jebus |
| 19:54.21 | Crofton|home | There is a kernel config option for the "trance vibrator" |
| 19:54.24 | woglinde | so let me see if git and git-native builds now |
| 19:55.13 | woglinde | lol |
| 19:56.36 | woglinde | args |
| 19:56.46 | woglinde | | checking whether formatted IO functions support C99 size specifiers... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling |
| 19:59.56 | woglinde | he mrdata |
| 19:59.58 | woglinde | hms |
| 20:00.06 | mrdata | re |
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| 20:04.07 | woglinde | hi thesing |
| 20:04.23 | thesing | hi |
| 20:05.32 | thesing | did the current changes to bitbake break multithreading? I get "database locked" errors. |
| 20:14.53 | hrw | re |
| 20:15.07 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 20:19.14 | koen | hrw: I updated http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2690 with the current version that I actually tested :) |
| 20:20.47 | woglinde | do we want git-perl-package in oe? |
| 20:21.00 | hrw | koen: nice work |
| 20:22.49 | stefan_schmidt | Anybody else compile errors with lsof after a fresh pull? http://nopaste.com/p/aJuPU1G84 |
| 20:22.56 | stefan_schmidt | Missing selinux dep? |
| 20:23.17 | hrw | fsck.. |
| 20:23.21 | koen | we don't have selinux stuff in OE (sadly) |
| 20:23.32 | hrw | lsof was buildable and thats why I pushed it |
| 20:23.46 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 20:23.51 | woglinde | koen but we should talk about it at oedem |
| 20:23.58 | koen | woglinde: yes |
| 20:24.13 | Crofton|home | embedded selinux would be amusing |
| 20:24.21 | woglinde | crofton why? |
| 20:24.34 | woglinde | motorola has it in the a1200 |
| 20:24.36 | Crofton|home | "secure" embedded devices |
| 20:24.43 | woglinde | greenphone has some support too |
| 20:24.49 | hrw | getting selinux configured properly is hard task |
| 20:25.09 | hrw | greenphone has 'even trolltech does not know' what |
| 20:25.10 | koen | maybe something like bitfrost is a better idea |
| 20:25.46 | koen | 'night all |
| 20:25.49 | Crofton|home | gn |
| 20:25.51 | woglinde | nite koen |
| 20:25.54 | stefan_schmidt | night koen |
| 20:25.55 | hrw | bye koen |
| 20:26.03 | woglinde | hm I have no beer |
| 20:26.18 | Crofton|home | I should have done an osk build with libtool 1.5.24 |
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| 20:27.30 | hrw | Crofton|home: poky was updated to latest latest of most of essential build stuff |
| 20:28.58 | Crofton|home | I need to test some wireless usb nics on Efika |
| 20:29.07 | Crofton|home | and write some stuff |
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| 20:30.21 | woglinde | re khem |
| 20:31.57 | khem | woglinde, yes |
| 20:32.45 | khem | ERROR: Task /local/sandbox/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/uboot/u-boot-mkimage-gta01-native_oe.bb (do_package) has circular dependency on /local/sandbox/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/shasum/shasum-native.bb (do_package) |
| 20:33.20 | woglinde | khem you build a circle |
| 20:34.28 | khem | woglinde, I just wanted to get uimage |
| 20:34.57 | Crofton|home | khem, what did you try to do? |
| 20:35.19 | khem | I added DEPENDS += "u-boot-mkimage-gta01-native" |
| 20:35.19 | khem | KERNEL_IMAGETYPE_omap5912osk = "uImage" |
| 20:35.31 | khem | to my local.conf |
| 20:36.43 | woglinde | hm sorry |
| 20:36.48 | woglinde | cant help you for now |
| 20:36.59 | woglinde | I must concentrate on git |
| 20:37.03 | khem | ok |
| 20:37.51 | hrw | koen: do NOT use DEPENDS in local.conf |
| 20:37.53 | Crofton|home | you didn't get an image from the build? |
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| 20:38.18 | Crofton|home | you should have had something in tmp/edploy/images |
| 20:38.28 | Crofton|home | there may be a machine dir in that path |
| 20:38.34 | khem | hrw, I removed it some 10 mins back and rebuilding |
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| 20:39.51 | khem | Crofton|home, its a vmlinux image there I want uimage |
| 20:40.22 | Crofton|home | for flashing? |
| 20:40.41 | Crofton|home | the kernel bb filel did the conversion |
| 20:40.44 | woglinde | hrw the fishi tabcompletion |
| 20:41.48 | hrw | yes :) |
| 20:42.06 | khem | Crofton|home, For normal booting too |
| 20:45.09 | khem | I am getting permission errors when I try to redo build |
| 20:45.41 | khem | local/sandbox/openembedded/build/tmp/rootfs/dev/vc/8: Permission denied |
| 20:46.22 | Crofton|home | I am always amazed at the new and unique erros people have starting to work with OE :) |
| 20:46.23 | khem | I have nfsbooted from this once could it be that these entries are created during the boot |
| 20:46.28 | Crofton|home | ah |
| 20:46.30 | Crofton|home | yes |
| 20:46.43 | khem | Crofton|home, Can I delete them manually |
| 20:46.51 | Crofton|home | khem, find the tar bal image and unpack it as root, then nfs moutn that |
| 20:47.01 | Crofton|home | probably :) |
| 20:48.08 | khem | Crofton|home, I think it should have handled it |
| 20:48.18 | Crofton | handled what? |
| 20:48.33 | khem | deleting the new enteries |
| 20:48.41 | Crofton | nfs mounting the build tree and letting the OS created files not owned by the build process? |
| 20:48.46 | Crofton | ah |
| 20:48.47 | Crofton | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.51 | khem | but I see that they were created as root owner so simple rm wont delete them |
| 20:48.56 | Crofton | yeah |
| 20:49.10 | khem | nm |
| 20:49.15 | woglinde | git is fixed |
| 20:49.38 | Crofton | new people always think of new ways to break things :) |
| 20:50.16 | woglinde | khem yes delete it |
| 20:50.35 | khem | woglinde tell me how can I get it to generate uimage for kernel |
| 20:50.40 | woglinde | crofton I think he is doing unix long enough |
| 20:50.50 | woglinde | so he find the solution for himself |
| 20:51.02 | woglinde | could have |
| 20:51.29 | Crofton | woglinde, it never would have occured to me to mount the tmp rootfs area in the OE tmp area :) |
| 20:51.50 | khem | woglinde, KERNEL_IMAGETYPE_omap5912osk = "uImage" |
| 20:51.57 | Crofton | it is an interesting "short cut", with bad effects to future builds |
| 20:51.57 | woglinde | crofton I do the same |
| 20:52.00 | khem | I added it to my local.conf |
| 20:52.19 | woglinde | but I know what I am doing |
| 20:52.21 | woglinde | *g* |
| 20:52.24 | woglinde | most of the time |
| 20:52.58 | woglinde | go cdbot |
| 20:52.58 | Crofton | khem, the bb filel does the vmlinux to uImage conversion |
| 20:53.17 | hrw | khem: omap5912osk is maintained by Crofton - he will shout/kill you not me |
| 20:53.24 | Crofton | :) |
| 20:53.56 | Crofton | khem, when I did the kernel bb file, it did not iccur to me to have the kernel do the conversion from vmlinux to uImage |
| 20:53.57 | khem | Crofton, OK |
| 20:54.03 | Crofton | so it is done in the bb file |
| 20:54.38 | Crofton | in the tmp/deploy directory there shoudl be a Uiamge kernel that you can flash directly into tthe OSK |
| 20:54.57 | Crofton | look in linux/linux-omap1_* for the commands used |
| 20:55.37 | woglinde | beer |
| 20:57.04 | khem | Crofton, tmp/deploy/glibc/images/omap5912osk/vmlinux-2.6.20-omap1-omap5912osk-20070803050338.bin |
| 20:57.39 | Crofton | hmm, did I call it a bad name |
| 20:58.14 | Crofton|home | let me swicth to OE machie :) |
| 20:59.01 | khem | Crofton|home, thats prolly not uimage |
| 20:59.09 | Crofton|home | it is |
| 20:59.11 | Crofton|home | I tihnk |
| 20:59.17 | woglinde | lol |
| 20:59.22 | Crofton|home | uImage has been run through mkimage? |
| 20:59.35 | hrw | khem: do 'file tmp/deploy/glibc/images/omap5912osk/vmlinux-2.6.20-omap1-omap5912osk-20070803050338.bin' |
| 20:59.37 | woglinde | zImage you mean |
| 20:59.44 | hrw | 22:28 hrw@home:progear$ file tmp/deploy/glibc/images/fic-gta01/uImage-2.6.21.5-moko10-r1-fic-gta01.bin |
| 20:59.45 | khem | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.45 | khem | GUNZIP ERROR - must RESET board to recover# |
| 20:59.47 | hrw | tmp/deploy/glibc/images/fic-gta01/uImage-2.6.21.5-moko10-r1-fic-gta01.bin: u-boot/PPCBoot image |
| 20:59.51 | woglinde | zImage -> mkimage -> uImage |
| 20:59.57 | Crofton|home | stanby |
| 21:00.03 | khem | woglinde, yes that should be the way |
| 21:00.35 | woglinde | or cat blalittle > uImage; cat zImage >> uImage |
| 21:00.44 | Crofton|home | wait |
| 21:00.50 | Crofton|home | from linux-omap1.inc |
| 21:00.57 | Crofton|home | http://pastebin.ca/644749 |
| 21:01.37 | Crofton|home | KERNEL_IMAGETYPE="vmlinux" |
| 21:01.54 | woglinde | hu? |
| 21:02.21 | khem | Crofton|home, the mkimage command looks correct to me |
| 21:02.31 | Crofton|home | just the filename is confusing |
| 21:05.15 | khem | and my uboot is not decompressing it |
| 21:05.24 | CIA-3 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * re95eb694... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 21:05.24 | CIA-3 | git: fix building of git 1.5.2.3 |
| 21:05.24 | CIA-3 | * remove git.inc because 2 files are enough |
| 21:05.24 | CIA-3 | * let git-native require git |
| 21:05.25 | CIA-3 | * override RDEPENDS in git-native |
| 21:05.27 | CIA-3 | * switch to autotools |
| 21:05.29 | CIA-3 | * add files/autotools.patch so we can crosscompile |
| 21:05.29 | khem | Crofton|home, Why dont you use make uImage target |
| 21:05.43 | Crofton|home | I didn't know about it when I did that |
| 21:05.43 | woglinde | thanks cia |
| 21:06.44 | Crofton|home | when I am not stressed, I'll to the smarter guys and see about changing it |
| 21:06.49 | khem | Crofton would it happen if I chose KERNEL_IMAGETYPE= "uImage" |
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| 21:07.13 | Crofton|home | I think we would like to reduce the number of different kernel recipes by consolidation if possible |
| 21:07.13 | woglinde | hi cbrake |
| 21:07.20 | woglinde | hehe |
| 21:07.24 | woglinde | I hope so |
| 21:07.25 | Crofton|home | not with the recpie I think |
| 21:07.44 | woglinde | linux dir in oe is another heavy mess |
| 21:07.51 | Crofton|home | we would have to look at teh kernel compile method |
| 21:08.00 | Crofton|home | woglinde, agreed |
| 21:08.12 | hrw | Crofton|home: integrate linux-omap into linux ;) |
| 21:09.02 | Crofton|home | khem, see :) |
| 21:09.12 | Crofton|home | I just need the time to work out how to do this |
| 21:09.26 | Crofton|home | right now, we get something that boots, but it is badly named |
| 21:09.48 | khem | Crofton|home, it does not boot for me :( |
| 21:09.54 | woglinde | lol |
| 21:09.57 | Crofton|home | the kernel image? |
| 21:10.19 | khem | yep |
| 21:10.21 | khem | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.28 | Crofton|home | I copy the long vmlinux file to a Uiamge.cc name in my tftp dir |
| 21:11.09 | Crofton|home | can you try this one? |
| 21:11.23 | khem | ok |
| 21:12.00 | hrw | night all |
| 21:12.38 | woglinde | nite hrw |
| 21:13.06 | Crofton|home | http://elinux.org/OSK#Files |
| 21:13.13 | khem | Crofton|home, what is the start address of vmlinux image |
| 21:13.23 | Crofton|home | Those shoudl work, I made them a few months ago |
| 21:13.36 | Crofton|home | khem what uboot do you have? |
| 21:13.56 | Crofton|home | I had an issue with start address once, seeemed like it "changedf" |
| 21:14.55 | Crofton|home | and the adress map for stuff |
| 21:15.23 | khem | uboot 1.2 latest from git |
| 21:15.56 | Crofton|home | I use u-boot later than that |
| 21:16.13 | Crofton|home | I think the flash layout changed somewhere along the line |
| 21:16.36 | khem | U-Boot 1.2.0-gcc3023b9-dirty (Jul 26 2007 - 13:41:46) |
| 21:16.41 | khem | this my uboot |
| 21:16.55 | Crofton|home | try the one you built in OE |
| 21:17.01 | Crofton|home | this sounds familar |
| 21:17.08 | Crofton|home | drove me insane once |
| 21:17.31 | khem | Crofton|home, same uboot boots another kernel fine which is an uimage |
| 21:17.41 | khem | I dont think there is issue with uboot here |
| 21:17.49 | Crofton|home | I am thinking that kernel uses a differenet start adderss |
| 21:18.00 | khem | 2.6.22 |
| 21:18.27 | khem | uimage starts at 0x10000000 |
| 21:18.46 | Crofton|home | well, I can't check easily |
| 21:18.53 | Crofton|home | my machine I used for OSK builds died |
| 21:19.02 | Crofton|home | two weeks ago |
| 21:19.18 | khem | :) |
| 21:19.26 | Crofton|home | yeah |
| 21:19.30 | Crofton|home | brb |
| 21:20.18 | Crofton|home | tomorrow, I am not working |
| 21:20.38 | Crofton|home | I will try an OSK build at home |
| 21:20.51 | Crofton|home | then Sunday I can get a board from work and test here |
| 21:21.28 | Crofton|home | but if you are really good at flashing, try flashing the set listed on the elinux wiki |
| 21:22.11 | Crofton|home | http://ossie.mprg.org/OSK_Notes |
| 21:23.20 | khem | Crofton|home, How would I just build a kernel |
| 21:23.30 | Crofton|home | bitbake linux-omap1 |
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| 21:25.11 | khem | Crofton|home, I change linux-omap1.inc but it does not pick it up |
| 21:26.25 | Crofton|home | I meant |
| 21:26.33 | Crofton|home | bitbake -c rebuild linux-omap1 |
| 21:26.52 | Crofton|home | which does bitbake -c clean linux-omap1; bitbake linux-omap1 |
| 21:27.05 | khem | yes |
| 21:27.09 | khem | thanks a lot |
| 21:27.31 | Crofton|home | sorry if I seem a little frustrated |
| 21:27.41 | Crofton|home | I am trying to do three things at once |
| 21:27.47 | Crofton|home | which is not working |
| 21:27.54 | Crofton|home | but, I just got a beer |
| 21:28.36 | Crofton|home | the server/OE crash cost me about three days, and I am trying to write a MS thesis ASAP |
| 21:28.47 | Crofton|home | so I ahve more time for fun stuff like embedded work |
| 21:29.11 | woglinde | args |
| 21:29.16 | woglinde | ~lart git |
| 21:29.16 | ibot | teaches git that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 21:29.22 | khem | Crofton|home, juggling too many balls |
| 21:29.26 | Crofton|home | yep |
| 21:29.41 | Crofton|home | keeps me young though |
| 21:29.52 | Crofton|home | well |
| 21:29.55 | Crofton|home | young acting |
| 21:32.03 | Crofton|home | khem, will you be working with any of this over the weekend? |
| 21:32.10 | woglinde | hms |
| 21:32.40 | thesing | mwester: do you intend to continue with the kexec-cmdline stuff? |
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| 21:36.26 | mwester | Yes. |
| 21:37.33 | mwester | There are things to be worked out yet, but I think the structure is still sound. |
| 21:39.35 | thesing | Great. Drop me a line if you have something to test. Now as my devellopment setup is working again I will answer much faster. |
| 21:39.54 | mwester | :) I hope to have time this weekend. |
| 21:40.33 | mwester | BTW, what exactly is a collie or a poodle? Something one can get on eBay for a reasonable price? |
| 21:41.00 | thesing | collie is a Strongarm base pda. |
| 21:41.14 | thesing | poodle is a PXA250 based one. |
| 21:41.41 | thesing | search for zaurus sl-5500 (collie) or sl-5600 (poodle) on ebay. |
| 21:41.48 | mwester | Thanks! |
| 21:41.56 | thesing | they shouldn't be too expensive. |
| 21:42.37 | mwester | They might be fun to play with; I have only NAS-type devices with no display to work with right now. |
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| 21:43.52 | thesing | http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Main_Page gives a overview over the zaurus devices. |
| 21:45.07 | thesing | 2.6 support is better for poodle so if you have fun doing kernel hacking get a collie ;) |
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| 21:47.01 | senuxis | hello |
| 21:47.50 | thesing | I have to go now. Have a nice weekend. |
| 21:48.08 | mwester | Enjoy your weekend! |
| 21:48.53 | Crofton|home | Everyone enjoy your weekend! |
| 21:49.06 | Crofton|home | Time to go find beer and friends |
| 21:49.19 | Crofton|home | not that you guys aren't great |
| 21:51.32 | woglinde | I dont get it |
| 21:51.39 | woglinde | how git sets it LDFLAGS |
| 21:52.20 | senuxis | hello people |
| 21:52.36 | senuxis | has any one installed poky linux on to the n800? |
| 21:59.47 | khem | woglinde, How can I get to arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux in bb files |
| 22:00.12 | woglinde | khem in an image? |
| 22:00.20 | woglinde | or what you want excatly? |
| 22:00.59 | khem | Actually I think the problem in case of generating uimage is that its taking the normal vmlinux but actually it should take the one from compressed |
| 22:01.09 | khem | so I want to check which vmlinux it is picking up |
| 22:01.55 | woglinde | hm is using osk another kernel dir layout than normal? |
| 22:02.15 | khem | like other arms nothing unusual |
| 22:03.43 | woglinde | than it should use zImage |
| 22:04.29 | khem | oh for loading with uboot you need uimage |
| 22:04.41 | khem | I dont know if it can accept zimage |
| 22:05.06 | woglinde | ~lart the git fooker |
| 22:05.06 | ibot | teaches the git fooker that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
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| 22:21.57 | senuxis | is any one here willing to test out poky linux on the n800? |
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| 22:22.23 | NAbyss | senuxis: Sure, if you fling me a n800 =) |
| 22:22.32 | senuxis | lol |
| 22:22.40 | senuxis | i just want to know how it is |
| 22:22.41 | woglinde | senuixs the ohand people test it belevie me |
| 22:22.55 | senuxis | where are they woglinde |
| 22:23.02 | woglinde | the maker of poky? |
| 22:23.08 | senuxis | oh |
| 22:23.11 | woglinde | and now the are sleeping |
| 22:23.12 | woglinde | hahah |
| 22:23.12 | senuxis | one handed |
| 22:23.35 | senuxis | did they post instructions? |
| 22:24.18 | senuxis | i want to try it out but i''m worried about bricking my device |
| 22:24.23 | senuxis | so i |
| 22:24.35 | senuxis | am looking for a safe guide |
| 22:24.51 | woglinde | http://www.pokylinux.org/#tryit |
| 22:24.55 | woglinde | google |
| 22:24.59 | senuxis | is any such guide available? |
| 22:25.00 | woglinde | is your friend |
| 22:25.09 | woglinde | than you have found it |
| 22:25.10 | woglinde | like me |
| 22:25.17 | woglinde | than you would have find it |
| 22:25.48 | senuxis | i want to try it on the device, besides. i'm on a mac right now |
| 22:26.52 | senuxis | that try it thing seems to be only for linux |
| 22:31.41 | senuxis | would the qemu image work with mac's Q emulator |
| 22:31.45 | senuxis | ? |
| 22:31.58 | woglinde | hm dont know |
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| 22:32.09 | woglinde | can Q emulator emulate a arm cpu? |
| 22:34.11 | senuxis | does angstrom work with the n800? |
| 22:34.36 | woglinde | hm I think so |
| 22:35.04 | mrdata | night all |
| 22:35.42 | senuxis | oh |
| 22:35.58 | woglinde | poky is using openembedded |
| 22:36.22 | woglinde | many ohnad employees are openembedded devs too |
| 22:36.23 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:36.52 | senuxis | yeah, that's why i came here |
| 22:37.06 | senuxis | because the projects are related |
| 22:37.24 | senuxis | all the guys at the poky channel are asleep i think |
| 22:37.35 | woglinde | yes |
| 22:37.37 | woglinde | even rp |
| 22:37.39 | woglinde | hm |
| 22:38.52 | senuxis | i wanted to ask about producing a safe and bricking-your-n800-proof-guide that i and others that want to try poky can use |
| 22:40.27 | senuxis | i think that poky's great |
| 22:40.33 | senuxis | especially sato |
| 22:41.31 | senuxis | does it support the applications of other mobile linux builds? |
| 22:42.03 | woglinde | what exactly? |
| 22:42.09 | woglinde | poky openembedded? |
| 22:42.15 | CIA-3 | 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r7954d427... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:42.15 | CIA-3 | git: fix runtime issues |
| 22:42.15 | CIA-3 | * fix config.mak.in to export LDFLAGS, now it |
| 22:42.15 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.15 | CIA-3 | * remove the OEMAKE_EXTRA hack for LDFLAGS |
| 22:42.15 | CIA-3 | * bump PR |
| 22:42.51 | senuxis | for example: can i install an angstrom application on to poky? |
| 22:43.23 | senuxis | is it binary-compatible with other mobile linux flavours? |
| 22:46.40 | woglinde | yes |
| 22:46.44 | woglinde | it should |
| 22:48.21 | senuxis | wow |
| 22:48.57 | senuxis | is there any mobile linux that supports java? |
| 22:49.02 | woglinde | hehe |
| 22:49.03 | woglinde | yes |
| 22:49.20 | woglinde | I am working on it |
| 22:49.31 | senuxis | which one? i ask because maemo doesn't it |
| 22:49.44 | woglinde | there is java support for maemo |
| 22:49.58 | senuxis | really? |
| 22:50.00 | woglinde | we will have cacao-cldc with midpath |
| 22:50.09 | woglinde | thats the same for maemo |
| 22:50.15 | senuxis | i mean java jre? |
| 22:50.40 | senuxis | when whill that happen |
| 22:50.58 | woglinde | midpath + cacao-cldc is enough to run the most java applets |
| 22:51.34 | senuxis | even use thinkfree.com? |
| 22:51.51 | senuxis | it's a java-based office suit |
| 22:51.55 | woglinde | but there is classpath |
| 22:52.02 | woglinde | with a lot more jre power |
| 22:52.06 | woglinde | too |
| 22:52.12 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:52.17 | woglinde | he coredump |
| 22:52.22 | senuxis | hello coredump |
| 22:52.24 | woglinde | senuixs I will try it |
| 22:52.52 | senuxis | woglinde: you'll try what? |
| 22:52.59 | woglinde | thinkfree |
| 22:53.03 | woglinde | but not today |
| 22:53.10 | senuxis | ok |
| 22:53.21 | senuxis | i like thinkfree |
| 22:53.48 | senuxis | it's one of the things that would be great for the n800 |
| 22:54.18 | senuxis | it'd solve n800 lack of office capability |
| 22:54.28 | woglinde | hm |
| 22:54.35 | woglinde | with poky gnumeric is possible |
| 22:54.36 | senuxis | i think that'd you'd like it too |
| 22:54.45 | woglinde | if you have enough disc space |
| 22:54.58 | woglinde | gnumeric and abiword |
| 22:55.01 | senuxis | what about the whole of openoffice? |
| 22:55.18 | woglinde | theoretical it is possible |
| 22:55.19 | senuxis | is that because they are gnome applications> |
| 22:55.27 | woglinde | gtk apps |
| 22:55.46 | woglinde | but dont know if they work well against the hildonframework |
| 22:56.04 | senuxis | what is the hildon frame work? |
| 22:56.44 | woglinde | a framework based on gtk |
| 22:56.53 | woglinde | used by maemo |
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| 22:57.22 | senuxis | so. when will your java solution become available to the masses? |
| 22:57.50 | woglinde | hm I will check in my stuff tommorrow |
| 22:57.58 | senuxis | ? |
| 22:57.59 | woglinde | but I am only package maintainer of it |
| 22:58.12 | khem | woglinde, I want to do 'make vmlinux uImage' |
| 22:58.24 | khem | How do I pass the second parameter |
| 22:58.33 | woglinde | hm |
| 22:58.41 | woglinde | let me see at the kernel recipes |
| 22:58.52 | woglinde | is make uImage really in kernel makefile? |
| 22:59.55 | khem | yes it is pretty standard for omap based systems |
| 23:02.08 | senuxis | would poky be compatible with maemo apps? |
| 23:02.31 | woglinde | hm |
| 23:02.41 | woglinde | dont know which toolchain maemo is using now |
| 23:03.00 | senuxis | since they're related to your project |
| 23:03.11 | senuxis | "open embedded" |
| 23:03.25 | woglinde | hm |
| 23:03.33 | woglinde | maemo is using scratchbox |
| 23:04.22 | senuxis | i thought that most if not all of the mobile linuxes are related to you since they all mention your name |
| 23:05.04 | woglinde | khem did you look at packages/linux/linux.inc? |
| 23:05.22 | woglinde | khem cannt you include osk in that file? |
| 23:05.23 | senuxis | and that open embedded was supposed to create some kind of mobile linux standard |
| 23:05.26 | khem | woglinde, I am fixing package/linux/linux-omap1.inc |
| 23:05.35 | khem | lemme see |
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| 23:06.26 | woglinde | hm |
| 23:06.26 | khem | woglinde, that seems to be the right place |
| 23:06.29 | khem | bravo |
| 23:06.54 | woglinde | hm seems you can concentrate on this |
| 23:07.05 | woglinde | and omap-1 stuff will be deleted once |
| 23:07.33 | woglinde | is there an 2.6.21 kernel for osk? |
| 23:08.22 | woglinde | hm yes |
| 23:08.29 | woglinde | omap-1 shoud go in there |
| 23:08.38 | woglinde | I will crofton ask about it |
| 23:08.43 | khem | Add KERNEL_IMAGETYPE_osk5912osk = "uImage" |
| 23:09.02 | khem | but actually its true for all omaps |
| 23:09.13 | woglinde | khem you need to make dir under packages/linux/linux/ |
| 23:09.14 | khem | so there should be a general way to include it |
| 23:09.23 | woglinde | put there alle config and patches |
| 23:09.31 | woglinde | look at the other dirs there |
| 23:09.54 | woglinde | should be straight forward |
| 23:11.43 | senuxis | woglinde: RP's back |
| 23:13.48 | woglinde | than ask him |
| 23:17.47 | woglinde | strike |
| 23:17.59 | woglinde | midpath and caca-cldc works with qt embedded |
| 23:19.32 | woglinde | nite |
| 23:20.29 | flo_lap | good night |
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| 23:29.28 | khem | woglinde, how can I see the whole build log from bb |
| 23:29.31 | khem | some thing like verbose |
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