| 00:01.21 | polyonymous | hmm... is it true that restricting system to flash access wouldn't make it consume less power? I thought it would... |
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| 00:02.19 | koen | if flash would have faster or equal read speed as disk, it would |
| 00:02.22 | koen | but it doesn't |
| 00:02.58 | koen | with flash you have to do zlib, which is sloooooooooooooooooooow on arm |
| 00:03.13 | polyonymous | hmm |
| 00:03.35 | polyonymous | it all seems (to me) about speed which is undoubtfully better on disk, but power? |
| 00:03.53 | polyonymous | well, zlib might justify power consumption, though |
| 00:04.13 | koen | if you can read a 6MB file in 5 seconds on disk or in 10 seconds on NAND, you use 5 seconds of CPU + backlight less |
| 00:05.02 | polyonymous | no, that's wrong calculation, I have backlight and cpu always on, anyway. |
| 00:05.05 | koen | time e.g. start abiword, load up big document, reformat table |
| 00:05.31 | polyonymous | Again, I know flash is slower. |
| 00:05.38 | flyback- | any palm linux users here? |
| 00:05.44 | polyonymous | But I thought the battery would last longer. |
| 00:06.19 | koen | polyonymous: you don't gain anything if the battery lasts longer if you have to spend more time waiting |
| 00:06.47 | polyonymous | koen, ah, okay, so it does last longer? I think you do gain in case of, say, ebook reading. |
| 00:07.06 | koen | well, *if* it lasts longer, which I highly doubt |
| 00:07.14 | polyonymous | that is - of course it depends on the usage pattern. |
| 00:07.23 | koen | (since you loose lots of ram to jff2's inode tree as well) |
| 00:08.12 | koen | there's nothing stopping people from using the flash, the jffs2 files are there |
| 00:08.24 | polyonymous | ah ok. I thought your statement implies that flash is equally power-consuming, which seems to be not the case. Other than that I'm not going to spend the rest of my life trying to gain a few minutes of battery m ore :) |
| 00:09.06 | polyonymous | Yeah, I was thinking about putting ebooks on flash, since that's about all I access when reading ebook for a long. Never bothered to do it either. |
| 00:09.20 | polyonymous | So, my interest is purely theoretical |
| 00:09.27 | koen | a sane reader would buffer it to ram as well |
| 00:09.38 | koen | and MDs power down after ~3 seconds |
| 00:09.43 | koen | (at least mine does) |
| 00:09.51 | polyonymous | koen, opie-reader is the best, but when it comes to internals it's far from being sane :) |
| 00:10.13 | koen | I've been playing with the iRex iliad the past few days |
| 00:10.22 | koen | now *that* is a cool ebook reader |
| 00:10.25 | flyback- | are there any opie tools for testing a palm battery |
| 00:10.25 | polyonymous | ipdf? |
| 00:10.30 | flyback- | to see if it's worn out |
| 00:10.33 | flyback- | runtime test or something |
| 00:10.55 | koen | polyonymous: yeah, it's ipdf, but the e-ink screen rocks |
| 00:11.03 | polyonymous | b/w though. |
| 00:11.16 | koen | 16bit gray |
| 00:11.21 | polyonymous | yeah |
| 00:11.28 | koen | beats 1 bit books :) |
| 00:11.45 | polyonymous | well as just an ebook reader, it should rock, but eur 600? |
| 00:11.50 | polyonymous | for just an ebook reader? |
| 00:12.11 | flyback- | opie reader is pretty decent for plucker files |
| 00:12.11 | koen | 650 even |
| 00:12.16 | polyonymous | on the other hand, a5-sized ebook reader has always been my dream... |
| 00:12.18 | flyback- | now I just need a good pdf solution |
| 00:12.23 | flyback- | looks like in palm os or linux there isn't one |
| 00:12.26 | polyonymous | flyback-, qpdf2? |
| 00:12.29 | flyback- | oh |
| 00:12.36 | flyback- | does it do resizing |
| 00:12.38 | flyback- | so it fits the screen |
| 00:12.42 | flyback- | that's the one thing I am missing |
| 00:12.47 | flyback- | otherwise xpdf is decent |
| 00:12.56 | polyonymous | flyback-, I think it does. Don't remember though. It's pretty much broken, but sometimes works pretty well :) |
| 00:12.56 | flyback- | and as for xpdf for palm os well it's more unstable than I am |
| 00:12.56 | flyback- | :P |
| 00:12.57 | koen | for x use epdfview |
| 00:13.11 | flyback- | actually I DO NOT mind even having to use a conduit |
| 00:13.13 | polyonymous | 650 is even worse... |
| 00:13.16 | flyback- | to preprocess the files on a pc |
| 00:13.30 | flyback- | to resize them like adobe AFRObat did |
| 00:13.35 | polyonymous | pfd2txt? :) |
| 00:14.00 | flyback- | i'd like to keep the diagrams and text genius :P |
| 00:14.06 | flyback- | otherwise I would have done that years ago |
| 00:14.10 | koen | I watched tf being in agony while trying to package ps2html |
| 00:14.11 | polyonymous | ohwell, maybe once I get a job I'll buy iliad :) |
| 00:14.12 | flyback- | I mean diagrams and pictures |
| 00:14.39 | polyonymous | What I like about qpdf is annotatability. |
| 00:14.53 | polyonymous | other than that it would probably suck. |
| 00:15.15 | polyonymous | koen, I take it there's no chance of getting ipdf into oe? |
| 00:15.45 | koen | polyonymous: check the bugtracker :) |
| 00:15.56 | koen | irex is pushing their OE patches back |
| 00:16.02 | polyonymous | yes, I've seen that. |
| 00:16.29 | polyonymous | But ipdf seems to have some deps that don't seem to available? |
| 00:16.46 | koen | what a few days for matthijs to get back home :) |
| 00:17.06 | polyonymous | what==wait? |
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| 00:17.13 | koen | ehm, yes |
| 00:17.17 | polyonymous | ah sounds good. |
| 00:18.04 | polyonymous | then goodnight everybody. |
| 00:18.11 | koen | 'night all |
| 00:18.23 | tnb | koen: my xserver-kdrive build doesn't build (empty archive) xserver-kdrive-w100 |
| 00:18.48 | tnb | koen: zzz :) later |
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| 00:27.47 | koen | tnb: no advice apart for "don't use bitbake -i, bitbake 1.6.x or bitbake 1.9.x" |
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| 00:58.57 | CIA-3 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r47235423... 10/ (1 packages/qte/qte-common_2.3.10.inc): |
| 00:58.57 | CIA-3 | qte 2.3.10: Get rid of ipaq vs zaurus dichotomy, it's all 2.4 FUD. |
| 00:58.57 | CIA-3 | * Tested on Z by Michael Krelin. |
| 00:58.57 | CIA-3 | * Closes #2668 |
| 00:59.01 | CIA-3 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r4d3e78f0... 10/ (1 packages/qte/qte-mt_2.3.10.bb): qte-mt 2.3.10: Bump PR. |
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| 01:39.36 | tnb | koen: what happened with bitbake -i? this is version 1.8.6 |
| 01:39.53 | tnb | seems everything builds except for the w100 version of kdrive |
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| 01:51.06 | tnb | koen: btw, it's hx4700 machine |
| 01:57.02 | tnb | koen: ah, looks like I need a preferred version of 1.2, since 1.3 comment says no w100 patch yet |
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| 04:40.19 | Marex | ibot, help botmail |
| 04:41.31 | Marex | ibot, botmail for psokolovsky looks like I fixed konqueror embedded to some effort ... at least it doesnt sigsegv right after launch now :-B |
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| 05:04.05 | MrEMaN | if i was building a program which used g+_ |
| 05:04.09 | MrEMaN | whoops |
| 05:04.14 | MrEMaN | which used g++ |
| 05:04.18 | MrEMaN | in its make file |
| 05:04.34 | MrEMaN | then would i compile with just ${CC} {LDFLAGS} etc... ? |
| 05:04.39 | MrEMaN | or would it be ddifferent? |
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| 07:22.28 | steliosk | good morning all |
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| 08:16.29 | XorA|guadec | morning |
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| 08:23.59 | XorA|guadec | hey ade|desk koen |
| 08:24.08 | koen | good morning all |
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| 08:31.09 | koen | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/goto.png |
| 08:32.28 | koen | XorA|guadec: I got brutefir to build :) |
| 08:32.47 | XorA|guadec | koen: heh heh, so an Ipaq based speaker system :-) |
| 08:33.12 | koen | with tiny speakers, brutefir uses 32bit or 64bit floats |
| 08:33.45 | XorA|guadec | eeeek |
| 08:34.00 | XorA|guadec | gonna be hard on the gumstix then |
| 08:34.06 | koen | looks like it |
| 08:34.11 | XorA|guadec | better off with a couple of miniITX via boards |
| 08:34.21 | koen | maybe it has a fixed-point mode as well |
| 08:34.28 | koen | didn't look at it that close |
| 08:34.32 | XorA|guadec | or pc104, dont need much in way of hardware |
| 08:34.37 | koen | (after a few IPA at 2 am) |
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| 08:44.30 | XorA|guadec | heh heh, yeah I saw your commits come into my email while I was searching for decent tv to watch |
| 08:44.43 | XorA|guadec | BTW the old man has dissapeared |
| 08:45.13 | koen | maybe he got lost on his way to breakfast |
| 08:48.08 | XorA|guadec | heh hehy |
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| 09:16.50 | koen | lrg: 160K armv5te/brutefir_1.0i-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 09:17.20 | lrg | koen: cool, i'll have to try it when i'm back at work |
| 09:17.40 | koen | [09:32] koen: XorA|guadec: I got brutefir to build |
| 09:17.40 | koen | [09:32] XorA|guadec: koen: heh heh, so an Ipaq based speaker system |
| 09:17.40 | koen | [09:33] koen: with tiny speakers, brutefir uses 32bit or 64bit floats |
| 09:17.40 | koen | [09:33] XorA|guadec: eeeek |
| 09:17.41 | koen | [09:34] XorA|guadec: gonna be hard on the gumstix then |
| 09:17.41 | koen | [09:34] koen: looks like it |
| 09:18.24 | lrg | koen: i'll try on mx31, see how it goes with the vfp |
| 09:22.30 | hrw | morning |
| 09:23.07 | koen | hey hrw |
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| 09:31.44 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r40a2f7c0... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): fftw: start cleaning up packaging |
| 09:31.50 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r21a1600f... 10/ (1 packages/brutefir/brutefir_1.0i.bb): brutefir: add comment about makefile patch |
| 09:31.56 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb497c5d6... 10/ (1 packages/fftw/fftw.inc): fftw: checkin fftw.inc |
| 09:33.48 | koen | gah, I'm an idiot |
| 09:36.36 | koen | hwo many commits does it take to get this right? |
| 09:37.57 | XorA|guadec | koen: tell truth, you are just cheating on maximum checkin stats |
| 09:38.05 | koen | ssssh! |
| 09:39.08 | koen | Packaged contents of libfftw into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv5te/libfftw3-3_3.1.2-r1_armv5te.ipk |
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| 09:43.27 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb27e44cc... 10/ (1 packages/fftw/fftw.inc packages/fftw/fftwf_3.1.2.bb): fftw: =+ not += |
| 09:51.52 | koen | heh |
| 09:51.53 | koen | http://www.philosophiste.com/images/spoiler.jpg |
| 09:53.59 | xjqian | anybody know how to flash nokia770 with Angstrom |
| 09:54.11 | xjqian | updater.sh? |
| 09:54.48 | koen | with the 0xFFFF binary in the image dir |
| 09:55.51 | koen | xjqian: http://www.nopcode.org/0xFFFF/ |
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| 09:57.22 | xjqian | koen: thanks |
| 09:57.34 | koen | OE should have built it for you |
| 09:58.07 | xjqian | yes, I just don't know what it's for |
| 10:08.51 | hrw | xjqian: it is opensource flasher for nokia tablets |
| 10:10.46 | koen | later all |
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| 10:15.18 | hrw | http://storage9.myopera.com/freejerk/files/bug-feature.jpg |
| 10:15.27 | xjqian | hrw, just finished reading the link provided by koen |
| 10:16.21 | XorA|guadec | hrw: heh heh |
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| 10:27.00 | hrw | hi paul |
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| 10:39.14 | CIA-3 | bluez-utils_3.12.bb : package alsa plugin into bluez-alsa, also fix |
| 10:39.14 | CIA-3 | packaging so all .debug ends up in -dbg package |
| 10:39.19 | CIA-3 | 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r858035d0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:39.19 | CIA-3 | linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.21-h11 : fix hamcop compilation issue |
| 10:39.19 | CIA-3 | * fix hamcop compilation issue as reported in http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2658 |
| 10:39.19 | CIA-3 | * fixes bug #2658 |
| 10:39.19 | CIA-3 | * hh12 supersedes this version and works, but I thought fixing it anyway was a good idea |
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| 10:42.22 | MrEMaN | is there anyway to tell bitbake to ignore the binaries which it has unpacked and just ignore that the archiecture differences? any way to do this appart from overriding the do_package_qa task? |
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| 11:31.33 | hrw | http://www.bononia.it/~zack/blog//posts/2007/07/python_debfile.html |
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| 12:13.13 | XorA|gprs | morning |
| 12:14.47 | XorA|gprs | in normal uk fashion all the trains are late |
| 12:15.48 | hrw | XorA|gone: so I had luck with central trains |
| 12:17.42 | XorA|gprs | hrw: yeah :-) |
| 12:18.03 | XorA|gprs | hrw: they build train lines too near rivers here and they flood |
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| 12:36.21 | dreamer_ | is there a way i can open a devshell over in a term on the console for over ssh instead of spawning an xterm? |
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| 12:41.37 | zecke | wirelessdreamer: sure IIRC. Check the mailing list archives |
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| 12:52.28 | HelloMrWorld | hello all, im having some trouble building an application with a makefile |
| 12:52.39 | HelloMrWorld | now the makefile is running when i use oe_runmake |
| 12:52.54 | HelloMrWorld | but its creating a binary which is not of the target archicture |
| 12:53.20 | HelloMrWorld | how do i make use of the makefile which comes with the application using oe so it cross compiles? |
| 12:53.43 | HelloMrWorld | please give me a hand here, im trying to learn... |
| 12:54.04 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: check if the Makefile explicitely sets CC or other variables |
| 12:54.20 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: then shoot the developer, and patch the Makefile |
| 12:54.29 | HelloMrWorld | zecke : it just calls g++ then some filenames then -o output file |
| 12:54.41 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: shoot the developer :) |
| 12:54.46 | HelloMrWorld | grrrr |
| 12:54.56 | HelloMrWorld | zecke : can you explain to me the problem? |
| 12:55.09 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: humans -> stupid -> errors :) |
| 12:55.22 | HelloMrWorld | zecke.moreDetail() |
| 12:55.23 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: oe_runmake passes CC, CXX, CPP, CFLAGS to the make process |
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| 12:55.39 | HelloMrWorld | i see |
| 12:55.41 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: sane Makefiles (e.g using ?=) will pick these vars |
| 12:55.49 | philippe-work | HelloMrWorld: the main problem is that the hard-coded g++ is not the cross-compiler |
| 12:55.52 | wirelessdreamer | if its running a system pathed g++, aka the one you'd usually run natively thatisn't your cross compiler binary |
| 12:56.04 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: stupid devs, that deserve to be shot, have the great idea to set CXX = g++ |
| 12:56.39 | HelloMrWorld | bah |
| 12:56.44 | HelloMrWorld | so what can i do? |
| 12:56.57 | HelloMrWorld | im attempting to port rainbowcrack |
| 12:57.02 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: see above, man quilt, and patch the Makefile |
| 12:57.04 | wirelessdreamer | sed it and replace it with a variable you can set |
| 12:57.41 | HelloMrWorld | so make use of CC, CXX, etc? |
| 12:57.46 | HelloMrWorld | instead of g++? |
| 12:57.52 | wirelessdreamer | yes |
| 12:58.03 | HelloMrWorld | ah right |
| 12:58.54 | HelloMrWorld | ok thanks |
| 12:59.01 | zecke | make has default values for CC, CXX, CPP, developers overriding them inside their Makefile need to be ... :) |
| 12:59.09 | hrw | shoot |
| 12:59.11 | hrw | twice |
| 12:59.12 | HelloMrWorld | lol |
| 12:59.40 | HelloMrWorld | but it cant be as simple as changing g++ to CC variable right? |
| 12:59.58 | hrw | drop CXX line from makefile |
| 13:00.03 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: reread the stuff from above |
| 13:00.12 | wirelessdreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:00.18 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: we do that, but the developer that deserves to be shot decided to override the variable (last call) |
| 13:00.31 | HelloMrWorld | ah right |
| 13:01.03 | HelloMrWorld | ok ill give it a go, thanks for saving me some time :) |
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| 13:18.30 | XorA|train | hey RP |
| 13:30.57 | XorA|train | damn virgin train is blocking my gsm signals |
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| 13:39.58 | mmp | Hello, what happened to h5000 feeds? actual upgrade wants to change contents of /etc/hostname to a780... |
| 13:42.38 | psokolovsky_ | mmp: there're regular bugs like that in angstrom images/feeds ;-\ |
| 13:43.51 | mmp | hmm, also it wanted to overwrite fstab... |
| 13:44.30 | polyonymous_ | isn't that normal? It didn't "want to" it just asked you if you wouldn't mind. |
| 13:46.43 | mmp | polyonymous: yes, but the fstab seemed to contain just some bare defaults... |
| 13:47.02 | polyonymous | mmp, that's why you shouldn't say "yes, please overwrite". |
| 13:47.38 | mmp | But I'm a bit afraid that this fstab is also in unofficial h5000 images, and that might cause problems... |
| 13:48.23 | polyonymous | hmm... Well, I don't know a thing about actual content of h5000 fstab, but yes, normally,what upgrade tries to put is what comes with an image. |
| 13:48.54 | polyonymous | And this is, indeed, very basic default, so it's not likely that you would want to overwrite your fstab. The same goes for hostname |
| 13:49.39 | mmp | yes, but that fstab even missed things like root filesystem etc. ... (maybe I'm wrong, it was just a quick look) |
| 13:51.08 | polyonymous | well, your root filesystem is already mounted, anyway ;-) |
| 13:51.45 | polyonymous | I don't think it missed root fs, though |
| 13:52.13 | polyonymous | I'd think this is a default fstab for h5000 http://rafb.net/p/fJeNd038.html |
| 13:53.00 | mmp | aha, so I probably missed the first line:) |
| 13:53.19 | mmp | sorry then... |
| 13:53.35 | HelloMrWorld | i need openssl libraries in order to build this package so i use DEPENDS += "openssl" but i get errors that it cant find /openssl/rand.c when compiling |
| 13:53.40 | HelloMrWorld | any ideas? |
| 13:53.44 | polyonymous | no prob. And, as I said, you're not likely to want to overwrite your fstab |
| 13:53.48 | CIA-3 | 03Alex 07org.oe.dev * r02f847ad... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): initramfs: Add blockboot plugin and cleanup dependency handling. |
| 13:54.00 | polyonymous | HelloMrWorld, do I get it right that openssl build fails for you? |
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| 13:56.00 | polyonymous | oh wait or is it failing to find openss/rand.c when compiling "this package"? |
| 13:56.30 | HelloMrWorld | polyonymous : i mean that it doesn't seem to find openssl/rand.c |
| 13:56.37 | HelloMrWorld | says no such file or directory |
| 13:56.46 | polyonymous | HelloMrWorld, the question is what's "it", though :) |
| 13:57.00 | HelloMrWorld | it = bitbake :) |
| 13:57.07 | polyonymous | at which point? |
| 13:57.17 | HelloMrWorld | i altered the S variable, so maybe thats causing problems? |
| 13:57.27 | HelloMrWorld | compile |
| 13:57.31 | HelloMrWorld | do_compile* |
| 13:57.44 | polyonymous | HelloMrWorld, you give no information, I can't guess everything. |
| 13:57.55 | polyonymous | do_compile for "this package", not openssl, right? |
| 13:58.04 | HelloMrWorld | correct |
| 13:58.23 | HelloMrWorld | so this recipe im writing, needs openssl in order to be built |
| 13:58.41 | HelloMrWorld | but when im compiling my recipe it cant find openssl/rand.c |
| 13:58.44 | polyonymous | but if it looks for openssl/rand.c - it probably means it needs openssl sources, not openssl installed/staged |
| 13:58.51 | HelloMrWorld | does that mean i must manually get openssl sources? |
| 13:58.55 | HelloMrWorld | ah |
| 13:59.17 | HelloMrWorld | so i must use SRC_URI to pull the sources? |
| 13:59.36 | polyonymous | maybe. I don't know what is the package in question. But it does seem to have ill-designed build :) |
| 13:59.56 | polyonymous | maybe. and likely not just that.. |
| 14:00.21 | HelloMrWorld | polyonymous : hmm i see |
| 14:03.30 | wirelessdreamer | i thought i saw a section in the oe manual on how to maintain a seperate directory with bitbake files outside of org.openembeded.dev repository so when its synced it doesn't kill other packages being worked on, anyone know where i can find that, i'm having trouble finding it |
| 14:04.37 | polyonymous | wirelessdreamer, add it to BBFILES ? |
| 14:04.48 | polyonymous | (I haven't read oe manual, yet) |
| 14:04.55 | wirelessdreamer | that sounds familiar :) |
| 14:05.21 | polyonymous | and, in case it's not only packages you'd also want to add it to BBPATH, I'd guess, but never bothered to do it. |
| 14:09.57 | wirelessdreamer | there aren't any comments about how to add more then one, do i just need a space between them |
| 14:11.29 | polyonymous | BBFILES := "${oedir}/overlay/packages/*/*.bb ${mtdir}/packages/*/*.bb" |
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| 14:12.25 | mmp | did I say anything about reflashing? |
| 14:12.57 | polyonymous | no, not yet :) |
| 14:13.01 | psycoman | existe a metapackage to install a native development ? |
| 14:13.10 | psycoman | s/existe/exist |
| 14:13.24 | polyonymous | exists :) |
| 14:13.42 | polyonymous | and I dunno. It's been a while since I compiled natively on the device... |
| 14:13.52 | polyonymous | But it was possible, not sure about metapackage, though. |
| 14:14.15 | wirelessdreamer | ipkg install gcc binutils bison flex m4 autoconf automake |
| 14:14.21 | wirelessdreamer | that should take care of most of it |
| 14:14.25 | wirelessdreamer | i may have missed a few |
| 14:14.34 | polyonymous | something along these lines, yes. |
| 14:14.34 | wirelessdreamer | and make |
| 14:14.51 | wirelessdreamer | build errors usually tell you if your missing anything else |
| 14:17.23 | psycoman | thnkx wirelessdreamer |
| 14:17.27 | psycoman | and polyonymous |
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| 14:19.40 | hrw | someone use gdb-cross here? |
| 14:20.17 | psycoman | no |
| 14:20.21 | zecke | hrw: not recently |
| 14:20.28 | hrw | zecke: you had it working? |
| 14:20.35 | zecke | hrw: there is sandman's old docu in the Opie cvs |
| 14:20.56 | zecke | hrw: I don't remember which toolchain I have used but it used to work |
| 14:21.32 | hrw | ok |
| 14:22.03 | psycoman | how i can add a new "distro" in oe ? |
| 14:22.37 | hrw | psycoman: what for? |
| 14:22.51 | hrw | there are so many of them already |
| 14:22.53 | polyonymous | I'd say it's something that you do when you don't have to ask. |
| 14:23.53 | HelloMrWorld | i need some help in how to add some header files to the staging? the staging section in the OE usermanual is not done :( |
| 14:24.15 | psycoman | hrw: im in moment searching a dsitro to supress my pdaxrom xD |
| 14:24.16 | HelloMrWorld | i have 4 header files i need to make available to the sources |
| 14:24.24 | HelloMrWorld | how do i add them to staging path? |
| 14:24.31 | psycoman | im tring angstrom-console with a xserver |
| 14:24.43 | psycoman | to be like a pdaxrom |
| 14:24.54 | psycoman | but im newbie in linux world hehe |
| 14:24.55 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: installing them? |
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| 14:25.13 | psycoman | and cannotmake startx works like a normal sistem |
| 14:25.14 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: there is STAGING_INCDIR defined and use the BSD 'install' tool |
| 14:25.22 | psycoman | i dont wanna install a display manager |
| 14:25.31 | polyonymous | HelloMrWorld, but random.c doesn't sound like a header file to me :) |
| 14:25.38 | HelloMrWorld | zecke : this stupid package needs the open ssl headers in order to build, headers like des.h, md5.h, etc, so i need to add them to staging right? |
| 14:25.45 | HelloMrWorld | so oe can find htem |
| 14:26.16 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: if it is openssl, add DEPENDS = "openssl" |
| 14:26.42 | HelloMrWorld | zecke : it needs the sources for open ssl not the package |
| 14:27.06 | HelloMrWorld | i tried DEPENDS |
| 14:27.07 | polyonymous | HelloMrWorld, these headers are staged |
| 14:27.15 | HelloMrWorld | oh? |
| 14:27.22 | HelloMrWorld | wonder why it didn't work |
| 14:27.25 | polyonymous | HelloMrWorld, but iirc it wanted openssl/ |
| 14:27.34 | polyonymous | openssl/rand.c |
| 14:27.38 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: why does it need sources? This is not acceptable for any sane distro |
| 14:27.42 | HelloMrWorld | rand.h i think |
| 14:27.55 | polyonymous | ah |
| 14:27.59 | HelloMrWorld | zecke : ask the guys at rainbowcrack.com :) |
| 14:28.00 | polyonymous | you've said .c! |
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| 14:28.08 | HelloMrWorld | typo :) |
| 14:28.09 | polyonymous | Then just fix the build system to use staged openssl |
| 14:28.12 | HelloMrWorld | i meant rand.h |
| 14:28.15 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: I would immediately shoot him... and revoke his right to write code |
| 14:28.22 | HelloMrWorld | lol zecke |
| 14:28.33 | zecke | HelloMrWorld: so does it need sources or just a header file as it links to openssl? |
| 14:28.35 | HelloMrWorld | zecke : i quite like this software so im not so mad :) |
| 14:29.02 | HelloMrWorld | polyonymous : what do you mean by fix? |
| 14:30.15 | polyonymous | HelloMrWorld, "# To correct or set right; adjust: fix a misspelling; fix the out-of-date accounts. |
| 14:30.15 | polyonymous | # To restore to proper condition or working order; repair: fix a broken machine." |
| 14:30.28 | HelloMrWorld | lol |
| 14:30.31 | psycoman | hrw: any idea ? |
| 14:30.35 | psycoman | or sugestion |
| 14:30.47 | HelloMrWorld | polyonymous : but how to stage openssl? |
| 14:30.55 | polyonymous | openssl IS staged fine. |
| 14:31.05 | polyonymous | It's just that your .bb doesn't seem to get there. |
| 14:31.09 | HelloMrWorld | oh |
| 14:31.13 | polyonymous | that is, of course, if openssl built fine |
| 14:31.20 | polyonymous | you can try bitbake openssl to make sure |
| 14:31.32 | HelloMrWorld | so when i use depends openssl, it will stage it also? |
| 14:31.40 | polyonymous | right |
| 14:32.34 | HelloMrWorld | im just trying out bitbake openssl |
| 14:32.39 | HelloMrWorld | it seems to be building it |
| 14:32.52 | polyonymous | huh... how did you build your .bb? |
| 14:32.59 | polyonymous | bitbake -b ? |
| 14:33.04 | HelloMrWorld | polyonymous : yeah |
| 14:33.08 | HelloMrWorld | ah isee |
| 14:33.14 | HelloMrWorld | so -b only builds yours |
| 14:33.14 | polyonymous | I think that would omit deps |
| 14:33.17 | HelloMrWorld | i see |
| 14:33.46 | hrw | psycoman: linux newbie + making new distribution does not match |
| 14:33.49 | wirelessdreamer | are the oe kernel's patched to accept 4gig sd cards? |
| 14:34.06 | hrw | psycoman: I rather suggest learning how angstrom works |
| 14:34.12 | HelloMrWorld | polyonymous : so to just be able to do bitbake mypackage i must add my local-packages to the BBPATH? |
| 14:34.20 | hrw | wirelessdreamer: 2.6 does not need to be patched for 4GB SD cards |
| 14:34.29 | hrw | wirelessdreamer: unless it is 2.6.16 or older |
| 14:34.36 | wirelessdreamer | thanks :) didn't know that |
| 14:34.53 | psycoman | hrw: im doing it rigth now, i have installed oe and make some testes |
| 14:34.54 | wirelessdreamer | i used 2.4 for so long i didn't think to check about that when i went to 2.6 |
| 14:34.54 | polyonymous | HelloMrWorld, no, local-packages/*/*.bb to BBFILES |
| 14:35.09 | HelloMrWorld | ofcourse |
| 14:35.11 | polyonymous | HelloMrWorld, but you can just build deps by hand and then -b as well, I'd think |
| 14:35.51 | psycoman | and tring understang the X too, to make a "linux like" into my zaurus |
| 14:36.12 | hrw | wirelessdreamer: the problem is that 4GB are usually SDHC now not SD |
| 14:36.43 | polyonymous | linux like? :) |
| 14:37.01 | hrw | wirelessdreamer: there were 4GB SD cards on the market but now all 4GB are sdhc - this need 2.6.21 iirc but I do not know does it need hardware support or not |
| 14:37.12 | HelloMrWorld | polyonymous : thx, given me hope :) |
| 14:37.45 | HelloMrWorld | i wonder if anyone has ever tried: bitbake world |
| 14:37.53 | HelloMrWorld | how mnay days do you think it would take to build that? |
| 14:38.12 | polyonymous | I didn't know there's such target. I think it would fail, anyway. |
| 14:38.22 | polyonymous | and I'd be short of diskspace too. |
| 14:38.22 | psycoman | polyonymous: hehe, with "normal apps" like openssh and etc xD not a linux PDA like |
| 14:38.39 | polyonymous | psycoman, what's wrong with just using angstrom? |
| 14:38.57 | HelloMrWorld | polyonymous : yeah, just saw it on OE site, need like a terabyte of space lol |
| 14:40.04 | psycoman | polyonymous: i dont like gpe-*, and im trying use a openbox/fbpanel |
| 14:40.29 | psycoman | but angstrom work with display manager and i dont know about xD, i just want a startx hehe |
| 14:40.43 | polyonymous | psycoman, but instead of building your distro you can just install install things you want. |
| 14:41.13 | polyonymous | s/install// |
| 14:42.02 | psycoman | yeap, i have installed oe im my desktop to make some packages to me and etc.. |
| 14:42.12 | psycoman | but still not having a work startx hehe |
| 14:42.28 | psycoman | right now im studing a way to do this, with console image |
| 14:42.33 | polyonymous | "et cetera" needs no additional "and" :) |
| 14:42.54 | psycoman | startx of xserver-kdriver-common dont work |
| 14:42.58 | polyonymous | but what I wanted to say is that I think you'd want to start distro (although you wouldn't) when you get things working. |
| 14:43.27 | psycoman | polyonymous: sorry, im not a english guy and i have very port skill in this language hehe |
| 14:43.53 | polyonymous | "et cetera" is not English :) And I think your native language is of romance family :) |
| 14:44.29 | hrw | psycoman: none of OE distros have startx script |
| 14:44.31 | psycoman | polyonymous: my quest about distro is just for know how it works |
| 14:44.47 | polyonymous | psycoman, hell, try it and explore then :) |
| 14:44.55 | polyonymous | you have a whole oe tree of examples. |
| 14:45.28 | psycoman | hrw: the package xserver-kdrive-common have a startx script |
| 14:45.35 | psycoman | not working but have |
| 14:49.34 | HelloMrWorld | got another problem: says arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: no such file or directory |
| 14:49.40 | HelloMrWorld | i think im going to go mad |
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| 14:50.55 | root____ | hrw: i dont have this script, where i can get ? |
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| 14:51.38 | psycoman | hrw: i dont have this script, where i can get ? |
| 14:52.29 | hrw | it is one of poky scripts |
| 14:52.42 | HelloMrWorld | hrw : any idea why i get this error? |
| 14:52.57 | wirelessdreamer | your build tools aren't build correctly |
| 14:53.09 | HelloMrWorld | ? |
| 14:53.10 | hrw | HelloMrWorld: not without detailed log |
| 14:53.12 | wirelessdreamer | in my experience it is one of the fist things oe will build before anything else |
| 14:53.21 | wirelessdreamer | because without it nothing with compile ;) |
| 14:53.27 | hrw | psycoman: xserver-nodm-init |
| 14:53.51 | HelloMrWorld | wirelessdreamer : i can build other things, just built openssl |
| 14:54.18 | hrw | my glass ball is broken |
| 14:54.27 | psycoman | i need search better, before ask some things hehe |
| 14:55.00 | wirelessdreamer | check your logs of something that builds correctly and compare the path of the arm gcc it uses compared to that one that is missing |
| 14:55.11 | wirelessdreamer | you probably have a path thats off |
| 14:55.24 | wirelessdreamer | if thats the makefile your trying to get to use the build tools |
| 14:57.03 | HelloMrWorld | how can i check if i have arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc? without using find |
| 14:57.08 | HelloMrWorld | where is it usually kept? |
| 14:57.33 | HelloMrWorld | could it be that because im using bitbake -b that its not being bui;t? |
| 14:57.37 | HelloMrWorld | built* |
| 14:59.07 | wirelessdreamer | you have to have arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc to compile, so its built somewhere |
| 14:59.46 | psycoman | hrw: ok, this script start X server, and where i can edit to start WM-thinks |
| 14:59.53 | psycoman | s/thinks/things |
| 15:00.44 | hrw | psycoman: do you know how to switch WM at all? how X11 session works? |
| 15:01.12 | wirelessdreamer | psycoman .xinitrc should work |
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| 15:01.29 | hrw | without such knowledge you should not start ;) |
| 15:01.52 | wirelessdreamer | HelloMrWorld: check your logs in /OE/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/SOME_PACKAGE_NAME/temp/log.do_configure |
| 15:02.00 | wirelessdreamer | make sure it sees arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc |
| 15:02.11 | psycoman | hrw: no in a complet process, you can point-me to a good document about ? |
| 15:02.20 | wirelessdreamer | if so then your other makefile just has a path problem |
| 15:02.47 | hrw | psycoman: google knows more then I |
| 15:02.53 | wirelessdreamer | OE/tmp/cross/bin is the directory all your cross tools should be in |
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| 15:03.09 | wirelessdreamer | or whatever your tmp directory points to |
| 15:03.13 | psycoman | hrw: thnkx xD |
| 15:03.35 | HelloMrWorld | lol shit it actually built |
| 15:03.40 | HelloMrWorld | hurray! |
| 15:03.59 | zecke | awesome :) |
| 15:04.07 | wirelessdreamer | grats |
| 15:04.15 | HelloMrWorld | now its time to shoot the developer |
| 15:04.20 | HelloMrWorld | anyone want to join me? |
| 15:04.39 | HelloMrWorld | thx for the support guys |
| 15:05.04 | summatusmentis | hi all |
| 15:05.26 | psycoman | i have a issue in my zaurus, the clocl is alwas set 1/1/1970 after boot |
| 15:05.27 | wirelessdreamer | anyone here know a variable i can set to get a devshell to spawn itself in the same term it was started in? |
| 15:05.36 | psycoman | first let me see bugtracker |
| 15:08.18 | psycoman | i love bugtracker xD |
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| 15:10.21 | psycoman | im trying compile some apps in zaurus |
| 15:10.40 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.53 | psycoman | when i do ./configure, i get this error |
| 15:11.02 | psycoman | checking for C compiler default output file name... |
| 15:11.08 | psycoman | googling i find this |
| 15:11.13 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.28 | mmp | polyonymous: looks like I was wrong twice -- e.g. angstrom image contains correct hostname... |
| 15:11.54 | psycoman | but i donk now what package is missing |
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| 15:19.54 | wirelessdreamer | has anyone here ever replaced their microdrive with a cf card? |
| 15:21.40 | psycoman | i have a link wirelessdreamer wait |
| 15:22.40 | wirelessdreamer | i know i've read of people doing it, i'd like to see a preformance upgrade from a 150x or 300x cf card though, supposed to be able to get 7meg a sec read/write on normal hw, not sure what the zaurus can handle though |
| 15:23.42 | psycoman | you can benchmerch this with external slot first |
| 15:25.20 | aoe_ | I never managed to transfer more than 2 MB/s with either a 100BaseTX card or a cf card with a SL-6000, this might be a hw limit |
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| 15:27.33 | psycoman | aoe_: but it uses stacks and hardware a little diff |
| 15:27.48 | psycoman | maybe ide interface an be a little more |
| 15:29.01 | hrw | psycoman: use hdparm on device to test? |
| 15:29.26 | hrw | btw - can we move distro talks to distro channels? |
| 15:29.30 | aoe | psycoman: but cf is ide, isn't it? |
| 15:30.02 | psycoman | hrw: wirelessdreamer can test |
| 15:30.29 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.57 | psycoman | i can do hdparm but my Cf is microdrive not a flash memory 150x ou 300x |
| 15:31.09 | psycoman | maybe wirelessdreamer can do, and post results to us |
| 15:31.27 | psycoman | http://www.flickr.com/photos/50659119@N00/sets/72157600299217163/show/ |
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| 15:32.55 | hrw | guys - this is OE channel. we discuss here about OE not about how does linux works on devices |
| 15:33.17 | wirelessdreamer | i don't have any good cf cards |
| 15:33.36 | wirelessdreamer | i just saw some new 8 and 16 gig 300x udma cards that are supposed to have good speed |
| 15:33.42 | wirelessdreamer | i don't have the cash to get one now though |
| 15:33.55 | psycoman | hrw: ok you right, sorry |
| 15:34.43 | wirelessdreamer | hdparm on my microdrive is 1.77MB/sec |
| 15:34.50 | wirelessdreamer | i'd really like to get that to 4 or 6 |
| 15:35.09 | wirelessdreamer | the z should be alot happier with apps like firefox then |
| 15:36.38 | wirelessdreamer | my sd card does 1.72 MB/sec |
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| 15:37.35 | psycoman | hrw: how can i subimt a .bb package ? |
| 15:38.16 | hrw | use bugtracker |
| 15:38.56 | psycoman | then.. |
| 15:39.20 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:58.30 | hrw | yes |
| 15:59.38 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 16:06.11 | daurnimator | hi woglinde |
| 16:06.41 | woglinde | hi daurnimator |
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| 16:31.21 | HelloMrWorld | im getting some really widerd build (do_compile) errors, like : ChainWalkContext.cpp:425:error: unknown register name '%edx' in 'asm' |
| 16:31.46 | hrw | bye |
| 16:32.01 | HelloMrWorld | ciao |
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| 16:35.47 | woglinde | edx is x86 register? |
| 16:36.17 | woglinde | so its not usefull on other archs |
| 16:38.07 | HelloMrWorld | woglinde : so what do i do? |
| 16:38.22 | HelloMrWorld | delete function? |
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| 16:39.50 | woglinde | learn assembler coding and port it? |
| 16:41.02 | HelloMrWorld | argh |
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| 16:42.30 | woglinde | or learn assembler coding and rewirte it in C? |
| 16:42.40 | woglinde | aeh c++ |
| 16:45.39 | CosmicPenguin | Its probably in assembler for areason |
| 16:45.53 | zecke | speed :) |
| 16:46.10 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: how are you? |
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| 16:47.53 | woglinde | he zecke |
| 16:47.55 | woglinde | hi ph5 |
| 16:48.22 | pH5 | hej woglinde |
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| 16:52.26 | woglinde | hi koen |
| 16:53.11 | koen | ~lart bmibaby |
| 16:53.11 | ibot | forces bmibaby to use Outlook Express |
| 16:53.11 | koen | those idiots left the luggage out in the rain for half an hour |
| 16:53.16 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 16:53.42 | koen | ~hail apple for making waterproof laptops |
| 16:53.43 | ibot | ACTION bows down to apple for making waterproof laptops and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 16:54.13 | woglinde | koen coffee? |
| 16:54.26 | zecke | koen: that is the sweat and blood of true child labor |
| 16:54.27 | woglinde | or tea? |
| 16:54.58 | koen | woglinde: massive rains at birmingairport and incompetent bagage handlers |
| 16:55.45 | woglinde | koen he yes |
| 16:55.46 | CosmicPenguin | zecke: good - how are you? |
| 16:55.54 | woglinde | they throw everything |
| 16:56.38 | koen | I wouldn't mind throwing, since the laptop and camera were surrounded by copious layers of dirty laundry |
| 16:57.01 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: I'm doing fine. My studying is slowly progressing |
| 16:57.14 | CosmicPenguin | Good |
| 16:57.25 | CosmicPenguin | ever onward |
| 16:57.41 | koen | up, up and away! |
| 16:58.01 | zecke | koen: you must defend your title of fastest cross compiler in the west |
| 16:58.15 | HelloMrWorld | lol |
| 16:59.01 | zecke | koen: I'm going to change the RSS reader and you should have compilation fixed before the first moko user complains |
| 16:59.18 | koen | zecke: I did, I added butefir :) |
| 16:59.46 | zecke | koen: BTW: did you attend the Nokia EAL talk? |
| 17:00.11 | koen | zecke: I didn't |
| 17:00.26 | woglinde | koen jesus |
| 17:02.51 | woglinde | so lunch now |
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| 17:04.02 | koen | yay! |
| 17:04.14 | koen | the netbook header generator tool has been written |
| 17:05.17 | Philippe | koen: which header? |
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| 17:05.43 | koen | Philippe: the one that allows boost to boot a kernel |
| 17:06.03 | Philippe | yay!!!!!! |
| 17:06.03 | koen | so now we can *finally* test 2.6.17 |
| 17:06.15 | Philippe | that is what I hoped for.... |
| 17:06.28 | koen | !seen jon_bradbury |
| 17:06.29 | cdbot2 | Jon_Bradbury (n=jonb@cpc5-lanc4-0-0-cust628.brig.cable.ntl.com) was last seen quitting from #angstrom 1 day, 6 hours, 10 minutes ago stating (Remote closed the connection). |
| 17:13.21 | koen | I'm pretty sure nokia is doing a maemo phone |
| 17:13.45 | koen | they went out of their way to ridicule openmoko, which only makes sense if they want to compete |
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| 17:18.55 | koen|train | XorA|train: hey there |
| 17:19.21 | Crofton | what don't they like about openmoko? |
| 17:19.57 | koen|train | probably it being a competitor to their closed maemo shite |
| 17:20.07 | Crofton | heh |
| 17:20.33 | koen|train | Crofton: I reworked the fftw recipes a bit, I will have to think a bit more on how to solve the wisdom binary packaging |
| 17:20.49 | Crofton | ok |
| 17:22.00 | koen|train | Crofton: do you use the wisdom stuff in ossie? |
| 17:22.04 | Crofton | no |
| 17:22.11 | Crofton | :) |
| 17:22.38 | Crofton | I am reading about it now? |
| 17:23.53 | koen|train | it's basically a tool to make a device profile so fftw knows beforehand which method is the fastest |
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| 17:27.21 | jsheldon | has anyone tried to break OE of requiring an absolute path? |
| 17:27.52 | koen|train | it's not OE, but binutils |
| 17:28.11 | jsheldon | I would really love to have it look to $HOME so I can move my build environment around |
| 17:28.19 | jsheldon | binutils? is that where the problem lies? |
| 17:29.24 | koen|train | yes |
| 17:29.32 | jsheldon | a-ha |
| 17:29.35 | koen|train | it checks if builddir == sourcedir |
| 17:29.43 | jsheldon | I see |
| 17:29.50 | jsheldon | nuts |
| 17:29.56 | koen|train | and with a symlink that fails, and it barfs when it finds a configure script |
| 17:30.07 | koen|train | "bla bla already configured" or something like that |
| 17:30.11 | jsheldon | dang |
| 17:31.41 | jsheldon | I'm trying to get a system together where I can pass around the build environment to developers so they don't have to build it on their own machines for hours and hours, and not require root access to create a directory at the top level |
| 17:32.05 | koen|train | you don't need a toplevel dir |
| 17:32.19 | koen|train | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.29 | koen|train | as long as that doesn't have symlinks |
| 17:32.35 | jsheldon | right, but if I build under /home/jim/OE I can't give it to /home/someguy |
| 17:33.01 | koen|train | in theory you should be able to |
| 17:33.10 | jsheldon | oh really? hmmm... |
| 17:33.14 | koen|train | we are working hard to fix references to builddirs |
| 17:33.18 | lmm | use acls to make /home/jim/OE accessible to everyone you want to have it? |
| 17:33.21 | jsheldon | oh great |
| 17:33.44 | koen|train | it <someguy> has the same hardware and distro as you do |
| 17:33.46 | jsheldon | lmm: but what if multiple users want to run builds? |
| 17:33.54 | koen|train | since going from debian -> gentoo will break, etc |
| 17:33.59 | kergoth | builddirs arent the only references, though. i'd expect there's still stuff in staging that has absolute paths to other stuff in staging, unless that's been audited |
| 17:34.02 | jsheldon | yup it would |
| 17:34.37 | koen|train | kergoth: we fixed a lot of .la files and scripts to stop doing that |
| 17:34.41 | jsheldon | well thanks for the input, I'll figure out a workaround |
| 17:34.46 | kergoth | ah good |
| 17:35.04 | koen|train | kergoth: btw, you should have seen mickey's face when we told him you work at MV now |
| 17:35.44 | kergoth | lol |
| 17:37.00 | koen|train | "haha, very funny" "no, seriously" <stunned look> |
| 17:37.59 | zecke | kergoth: let us take a look. First package built is quilt-native oh it has absolute paths :) |
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| 17:38.15 | jsheldon | zecke: yikes! |
| 17:38.35 | kergoth | i don't see why everyone's so surprised. i've certainly pointed out my dislike for mvista tools in the past, when i was at ti, but beyond that they're a decent company, and employ some good folks, like deepak and kevin hilman and others |
| 17:38.55 | zecke | kergoth: and you :) |
| 17:39.56 | koen|train | kergoth: and now you can join OE people at embedded conferences :) |
| 17:40.05 | koen|train | MV usually sends their gang |
| 17:40.14 | kergoth | thatd be very nice |
| 17:40.23 | dfoley | jsheldon: not sure if this is a great method, but I always use a chroot system for builds |
| 17:40.49 | jsheldon | dfoley: yes I do too, which is how I've been working around the problem so far :) |
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| 17:42.52 | m0d0r | hi |
| 17:43.53 | redguy | hi, I am trying to build bootstrap-image of generic distro for my shiny netvista terminal (so I'm using the "netvista" machine). bitbake boostrap-image complained about not having bluez-dtl1-workaround, so I decided to build it. The problem is that bitbake hangs on do_fetch. I straced the process and I found out thet it is in an infinite loop because it's trying to write to stdout and gets SIGTTOU, which makes it restart. Does anyone have any hints on how |
| 17:43.53 | redguy | to resolve this issue? |
| 17:44.13 | koen|train | don't use DISTRO=generic, it's broken |
| 17:45.27 | redguy | which distro might I use then for a headless box then? |
| 17:45.39 | koen|train | angstrom-2007.1 |
| 17:45.56 | jsheldon | redguy: bitbake angstrom-console-image |
| 17:47.33 | polyonymous | psokolovsky_, " 2) Joypad is mixed up (press right moves up, press up moves left, etc)." does it have something to do with what I think it has something to do with?:) |
| 17:47.34 | redguy | will try, thanks |
| 17:47.42 | redguy | back to bitbaking then... :-) |
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| 17:57.37 | psokolovsky_ | polyonymous: likely |
| 17:58.19 | polyonymous | umm. ok. strange, I'd rather expect it to be the case on Z, although, it's not, for what I can tell by my test. |
| 17:59.46 | redguy | well, apparently it wouldn't build because I have run it from the mc subshell... PEBKAC, as always :-) |
| 18:01.20 | polyonymous | "output is normal, problem is on your side" :) |
| 18:03.52 | koen|train | "I resample from 8kHz to 11999kHz and am surprised about aliasing effects" |
| 18:04.21 | polyonymous | koen|train, you renamed another bug summary? :) |
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| 18:04.47 | koen|train | I would have if that was the only comment in the bug :) |
| 18:04.51 | Crofton | what is the difference between angstrom-console-image and bootstrap-imge? |
| 18:05.06 | polyonymous | ;-)) |
| 18:05.09 | koen|train | the first builds the other doesn't ? |
| 18:05.27 | Crofton | I am always building boostrap-image :) |
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| 18:05.31 | polyonymous | wouldn't it make sense to cleanup? |
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| 18:07.01 | koen|train | kergoth: which MV office are you in, or are you telecommuting? |
| 18:07.44 | kergoth | Tempe, AZ office |
| 18:11.23 | mwester | "but it's a *dry* heat..." :) |
| 18:12.00 | koen|train | zecke: ephinany/webkit will land in OE as soon as the epiphany dudes fix their svn |
| 18:13.00 | zecke | going to el's birthday now |
| 18:13.04 | koen|train | mwester: I think I still have a shirt saying that :) |
| 18:13.18 | zecke | koen|train: I wonder what version of WebKit they have forked... |
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| 18:13.22 | koen|train | zecke: enjoy |
| 18:13.40 | zecke | koen|train: http://bugwerft.de/ bbq with this view |
| 18:15.03 | zecke | bbl |
| 18:15.38 | koen|train | s/bbl/bbq/ ;) |
| 18:17.40 | tnb | koen|train: hx4700 xserver-kdrive failed yesterday because it tried to build 1.3.0. I am planning to add PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver-kdrive = "1.2.0" to hx4700.conf. Works for you? |
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| 18:19.26 | kristoffer | Any nslug owners here? |
| 18:19.31 | koen|train | tnb: yes, adding that would be great |
| 18:19.44 | tnb | ok |
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| 18:43.39 | likewise | good morning all |
| 18:45.41 | ljp | morning |
| 18:47.13 | Crofton | likewise, you played with the Efika lately? |
| 18:47.58 | likewise | Crofton: not after I played with deep sleep |
| 18:48.12 | Crofton | should it support sound? |
| 18:48.37 | likewise | Crofton: yes, I have a build setup w/ sound support and some sound apps. |
| 18:48.45 | Crofton | hmm |
| 18:49.00 | Crofton | I built bootstrap-image for it and had no sound support |
| 18:49.03 | likewise | but the volume is 0% by default |
| 18:49.19 | Crofton | the mixer would not run for me |
| 18:50.02 | Crofton | any thoughts? is the sound stuff built as modules? |
| 18:50.06 | likewise | Crofton: hmm, I can help, but not atm, I am not near my work station... |
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| 18:50.29 | Crofton | ok |
| 18:50.39 | Crofton | I should be doind other stuff |
| 18:50.58 | Crofton | but if you get a chance could you look and see if there is something obvious we need to fix |
| 18:51.27 | Crofton | It is a background task for me atm |
| 18:51.35 | michael | whats going on with the virtual/libsdl? |
| 18:51.37 | Crofton | but I would like to figure it out |
| 18:52.30 | likewise | Crofton: no problem, I can probably do a complete test cycle tonight or tomorrow (unless something else comes up, etc..) |
| 18:53.02 | Crofton | thanks |
| 18:54.24 | michael | some patches seem to be missing from the repository |
| 18:55.03 | michael | http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/libsdl/libsdl-directfb_1.2.9.bb |
| 18:55.21 | michael | this file refers to patches that do not exist |
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| 18:55.45 | michael | http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/libsdl/files |
| 18:56.06 | michael | here are the patches that are there |
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| 18:56.57 | michael | can anyone here help me with this? |
| 18:57.31 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 18:58.10 | Crofton | need to look at the mtn log and see who commited the bb change and forgot to add the patches |
| 18:58.32 | Crofton | which patches are missing? |
| 18:59.02 | michael | lemme see |
| 18:59.31 | Crofton | it may be best to create a bug in bugzilla |
| 19:03.10 | Crofton | it will take me a while to figure it out, I am updateing my db |
| 19:03.16 | michael | this seems to be an incomlpete update |
| 19:03.41 | michael | SRC_URI = "http://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-${PV}.tar.gz \ |
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| 19:03.53 | michael | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.55 | michael | S = "${WORKDIR}/SDL-${PV}" |
| 19:04.29 | Crofton | ~pastebin |
| 19:04.30 | ibot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
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| 19:05.21 | michael | this was form the bitbake file |
| 19:05.27 | Crofton | right |
| 19:05.29 | likewise | rebooting into the right mindset |
| 19:05.54 | michael | and the files directory above has only 4 files |
| 19:06.22 | michael | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.32 | michael | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.45 | michael | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:07.00 | michael | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.51 | michael | why would they put a bb file that uses patch that arent there? |
| 19:08.40 | Crofton | well |
| 19:08.51 | Crofton | because you forgot to add the patch files to OE :) |
| 19:08.56 | Crofton | this happens |
| 19:09.30 | michael | okay then i can get these patches from libsdl.org maybe? |
| 19:09.56 | michael | and pop them in the appropriate directory |
| 19:09.59 | Crofton | not sure, the best thing to do is figure out who made the change to the bb file and email them |
| 19:10.08 | Crofton | or create a bugzilla |
| 19:10.32 | michael | the repository will tell me who made this modification?\ |
| 19:10.37 | Crofton | yeah |
| 19:10.42 | Crofton | but I suck at mtn log |
| 19:10.55 | Crofton | so I am dumping the entire log to a file and will search |
| 19:11.23 | michael | i see |
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| 19:13.02 | michael | the modification was 3 days ago |
| 19:13.17 | Crofton | koen, fix QA issues? |
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| 19:15.52 | michael | im not not sure how to fix this |
| 19:16.07 | michael | im fairly new to OE |
| 19:16.11 | Crofton | basically, file a bug report |
| 19:16.20 | Crofton | detailing which patch files are missing |
| 19:16.24 | michael | okay |
| 19:16.26 | Crofton | or send an email to the dev list |
| 19:16.34 | michael | dev list? |
| 19:16.44 | Crofton | the names I see in the mtn log are in EU, so I suspect they are not working |
| 19:26.27 | Crofton | koen|away, ping |
| 19:33.48 | keesj | can somebody help me get a working openocd.cfg for the smdk2440? |
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| 19:38.16 | woglinde | re koen |
| 19:38.37 | Crofton | koen, have you been working on libsdl-directfb? |
| 19:38.49 | Crofton | keesj, try #edev? |
| 19:38.52 | koen | hi all |
| 19:38.54 | cbrake | keesj: might want to try #openjtag |
| 19:38.56 | koen | Crofton: I only removed a '#' |
| 19:38.59 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 19:39.14 | Crofton | micheal is claiming there are missing patch files |
| 19:39.24 | keesj | thanks I will try all :p |
| 19:39.55 | Crofton | and a quick look suggests he has a point |
| 19:47.43 | CIA-3 | 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r67dbe8b9... 10/ (1 packages/linux/compulab-pxa270_2.6.16.bb): compulab-pxa270_2.6.16.bb: fix location of custom tasks |
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| 19:54.24 | Crofton | hmm, do we have viewmtn setup somewhere? |
| 19:54.58 | woglinde | crofton its broken |
| 19:55.10 | Crofton | I just figured that out :( |
| 20:07.46 | XorA|gone | keesj: the openocd,cfg for Neo1973 works on smdk2440 |
| 20:07.51 | XorA|gone | koen: yo |
| 20:08.09 | koen | hey XorA|gone |
| 20:08.35 | woglinde | he xora |
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| 20:13.41 | keesj | XorA|gone: that was my starting point but the configuration does not look very complete at least in combo with my jtag-key I can't even perform a reset, but I was able to suspend and download binary |
| 20:16.16 | XorA|gone | keesj: odd, all I chaged was the usb id and it worked perfectly |
| 20:17.03 | XorA|gone | keesj: although I never tried a reset, I just debugged a kernel I had downloaded by usb |
| 20:18.14 | keesj | XorA|gone: did you use the closed source or open source ftdi or the binary driver? |
| 20:18.34 | keesj | so libftd2xx0 or libftdi |
| 20:18.42 | XorA|gone | keesj: I used the openmoko stuff, just moved it into smdk2440 kernel build |
| 20:19.06 | XorA|gone | keesj: I had been debugging openmoko kernel only a couple of days before |
| 20:19.55 | keesj | XorA|gone: thanks for the info , I will try a little harder! |
| 20:20.44 | XorA|gone | keesj: but this was a few months ago so its possible they changed the config |
| 20:21.01 | XorA|gone | keesj: I was amazed it worked actually as I was desperate |
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| 20:22.11 | keesj | I see it as an investment in happyness to get it working :p |
| 20:22.12 | XorA|gone | keesj: I will be working on smdk2440 on monday so if you still have problems I can try it at work |
| 20:22.30 | koen | Philippe: talk to Jon_Bradbury :) |
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| 20:24.11 | Jon_Bradbury | Gosh, I get an intro too! Thanks koen |
| 20:24.28 | keesj | this is what I currently get http://paste-it.net/2929/raw/ |
| 20:25.16 | koen | keesj: you could poke drath_ for openocd questions |
| 20:25.42 | XorA|gone | keesj: I dont recognise the error, but I can check on monday when I have hardware to hand |
| 20:27.18 | Jon_Bradbury | Philippe : Hi |
| 20:27.22 | Jon_Bradbury | florian : hi |
| 20:27.30 | koen | XorA|gone: the piggies have roughly doubled in size :) |
| 20:27.50 | koen | Jon_Bradbury: florian is currently at the airport |
| 20:28.14 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : how do you know that? |
| 20:28.41 | koen | because I had the earlier flight :) |
| 20:29.01 | XorA|gone | koen: living upto name then :-) |
| 20:29.09 | koen | a lot of people in #oe were at guadec.org last week |
| 20:29.58 | Jon_Bradbury | Well I hope they got beer. |
| 20:30.04 | XorA|gone | lots of beer |
| 20:30.23 | Jon_Bradbury | Huh. No one invited me.. ;) |
| 20:32.09 | gremlin[it] | giadec in istambul next year ?!?!?!?! |
| 20:32.30 | Jon_Bradbury | Don't fret, it's a lovely place, and turkey is secular. |
| 20:32.50 | Crofton | about as secular as the US these days .... |
| 20:34.42 | koen | Crofton: more secular |
| 20:34.51 | Crofton | :) |
| 20:35.01 | koen | the military will do a coup if the religuous zealots get into power |
| 20:35.11 | Crofton | yeah |
| 20:35.12 | kergoth | <3 ssh SOCKS support |
| 20:35.32 | Jon_Bradbury | They are all [insert that religion here] in denial |
| 20:35.35 | XorA|gone | wife just got back from Istanbul, there is an Irish bar, we shall be fine |
| 20:35.56 | Crofton | it could be in Utah |
| 20:36.01 | Crofton | home of 3.2 beer |
| 20:36.09 | Jon_Bradbury | XorA|gone : There's one of those in every city |
| 20:36.10 | Crofton | well, this is what I here |
| 20:36.12 | Crofton | er ehar |
| 20:37.24 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : how to calculate the branch_instruction field of the boost header? |
| 20:38.04 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : Oh, wait a minute, substitute the offset for zero in the formula, but that means all the bi's will be the same. |
| 20:38.35 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : set the flag bit 17 as well? (Compressed using zlib) |
| 20:40.37 | koen | I only poke people from time to time to upload info :) |
| 20:41.24 | Jon_Bradbury | I promise you there will be no need to poke me. I'm going to populate the wiki, as soon as I have something worth saying. |
| 20:41.49 | likewise | Crofton: I started a build. |
| 20:42.18 | Crofton | thanks |
| 20:42.31 | likewise | hello koen et al. long time no see. |
| 20:42.36 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : on the zlib faq : "Q: Can you please sign these lengthy legal documents and fax them back to us so that we can use your software in our product? |
| 20:42.38 | Crofton | I'll make sure I am up to date and start one leter |
| 20:42.47 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : A : No. Go away. Shoo. |
| 20:42.55 | Jon_Bradbury | Well I laughed |
| 20:43.08 | koen | hey likewise |
| 20:43.09 | likewise | well, I'm not up-to-date on that build (but it should work) |
| 20:46.02 | koen | how was yugoslavia? |
| 20:47.21 | likewise | koen: croatia, excellent. very nice people, most beautiful nature and views I have experienced in Europe. Neat seas, dolphins even, nice diving. |
| 20:47.29 | likewise | oh and the food was good |
| 20:48.02 | woglinde | yes |
| 20:48.09 | woglinde | and cheap |
| 20:48.14 | Jon_Bradbury | Remember to pack a Kalashnikov |
| 20:48.50 | Jon_Bradbury | sorry only joking |
| 20:49.06 | woglinde | koen you can add bulgaria too |
| 20:49.53 | Crofton | hmm croatia is not on the euro? |
| 20:50.17 | Jon_Bradbury | woglinde : Not sure I agree. I went to Borovets on a snowboarding holiday and it was expensive, people ripping you off everywhere, and Sofia was a slum. |
| 20:50.38 | woglinde | jon oh no wintersports |
| 20:50.41 | Jon_Bradbury | Mind you that's a resort for well off Europeans. |
| 20:50.46 | woglinde | only summer on the beach |
| 20:51.11 | Jon_Bradbury | Not anymore, I have a bad back, a bit overweight, and kids. |
| 20:51.25 | Jon_Bradbury | Plus, I eBayed my board <boo, hoo!> |
| 20:51.29 | woglinde | kids and overweight? |
| 20:51.37 | woglinde | you do something wrong |
| 20:51.43 | Jon_Bradbury | Yeah, I'm like, 42, dude |
| 20:52.00 | Crofton | youngster |
| 20:52.21 | Jon_Bradbury | whoa, I thought I was the octogenarian round here |
| 20:52.26 | Crofton | nope |
| 20:52.41 | woglinde | hihi |
| 20:53.00 | woglinde | jon how many kids? |
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| 20:53.14 | CIA-3 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Add 2.6.21-hh13. |
| 20:53.14 | CIA-3 | * Changes since -hh12: |
| 20:53.14 | CIA-3 | 1. ts-adc-debounce and ts-adc merged under the name of ts-adc. |
| 20:53.14 | CIA-3 | 2. SoC driver header files consolidation: now all they live in |
| 20:53.16 | CIA-3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.18 | CIA-3 | 3. All SoC drivers now accept IRQ base for demultiplexed interrupts via |
| 20:53.22 | CIA-3 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r895f25e3... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-handhelds-2.6: Drop few old versions. |
| 20:53.29 | Jon_Bradbury | ah. well, how do you get time to do open source development? I mean, you've responsibilites that have to be serviced |
| 20:53.50 | Crofton | grad school |
| 20:54.10 | Jon_Bradbury | woglinde : two rather lovely girls, 4 and 6, and they have the same birthday |
| 20:54.20 | woglinde | jon lol |
| 20:54.28 | woglinde | my son is now 12 months |
| 20:54.30 | koen | psokolovsky_: could you rename 'initramfs' to something like 'initramfs-initscripts' please? |
| 20:54.35 | woglinde | and has the first teeths |
| 20:55.02 | Jon_Bradbury | woglinde : Ahhh cute. Get that child a teething ring if you want to sleep! |
| 20:55.07 | woglinde | cool beer taste fine |
| 20:55.08 | psokolovsky_ | koen: ok |
| 20:55.19 | woglinde | jon he sleeps |
| 20:55.32 | Jon_Bradbury | woglinde you are very lucky |
| 20:55.52 | woglinde | jon yes we have luck with him |
| 20:55.54 | Jon_Bradbury | Crofton : what are you studying? |
| 20:56.16 | woglinde | but otherside he now runs in every room and put things together on the floor |
| 20:56.16 | Crofton | software defined radio |
| 20:56.30 | Jon_Bradbury | crofton : cool |
| 20:56.46 | Jon_Bradbury | woglinde : you mean he takes things apart |
| 20:57.15 | Jon_Bradbury | woglinde : just wait till he stuffs a slice of toast (with jam) in the video player |
| 20:57.28 | woglinde | hm we only have dvd |
| 20:57.31 | koen | Jon_Bradbury: fwiw, you probably made oxfam/novib happy as well |
| 20:57.38 | woglinde | video is abbonned |
| 20:57.47 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : who? |
| 20:57.52 | koen | they have a number of nbps they take into afrika for field work |
| 20:58.15 | woglinde | now let me see if cacao-cldc1.1 runs with uclibc and the mmap2 fix |
| 20:58.22 | woglinde | oh fireworks |
| 20:58.31 | koen | Jon_Bradbury: http://www.oxfam.org/ |
| 20:58.37 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : I will sort out that header now I know what to do with it. |
| 20:59.02 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : right, I thought you meant nicknames on the IRC server |
| 20:59.35 | Jon_Bradbury | woglinde : babies love dvd players heh, heh, heh.... |
| 21:00.04 | woglinde | jon he loves keyboard mouse gamepad tv-connect-cable powercords ... |
| 21:00.18 | woglinde | old cellphone gameboy |
| 21:00.38 | Jon_Bradbury | babies eat cellphones... or try to... |
| 21:02.08 | woglinde | args |
| 21:02.14 | woglinde | ~lart cacao |
| 21:02.14 | ibot | executes killall -TERM cacao |
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| 21:14.13 | jan_js | hi ! |
| 21:14.43 | jan_js | I am just reflashing my sl-c700 following koens instructions. |
| 21:15.41 | jan_js | Is it the jffs2 image or the tar.gz - image that I should rename to initrd.bin then ? |
| 21:16.01 | woglinde | jffs2 I guess |
| 21:17.19 | jan_js | thanks, I'll try that |
| 21:23.31 | woglinde | hm someone knows which arguemnt is wrong here? |
| 21:23.33 | woglinde | mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) |
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| 21:24.46 | woglinde | hm ah |
| 21:24.51 | woglinde | I got it |
| 21:24.55 | woglinde | forget the question |
| 21:29.58 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : BooSt reports that the zlib inflate failed. |
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| 21:31.00 | Jon_Bradbury | koen : unfortunately it does not say why! |
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| 21:42.18 | psycoman | hi all |
| 21:42.28 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.36 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.43 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.48 | psycoman | i got a error |
| 21:42.53 | psycoman | in binutils |
| 21:43.06 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.17 | woglinde | so whats the quesiton? |
| 21:46.29 | woglinde | install makeinfo on your host and you are fine |
| 21:46.53 | psycoman | lol |
| 21:47.01 | psycoman | let me see |
| 21:47.09 | psycoman | i dont think this is in my system |
| 21:47.22 | woglinde | yeah then INSTALL it |
| 21:47.55 | woglinde | texinfo: /usr/bin/makeinfo# |
| 21:47.59 | woglinde | texinfo: /usr/bin/makeinfo |
| 21:48.13 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.29 | woglinde | no |
| 21:49.00 | woglinde | maybee in the buildsystem of binutils |
| 21:49.17 | woglinde | but then it tell you install makeinfo |
| 21:49.21 | woglinde | than install makeinfo |
| 21:50.41 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.56 | jan_js | woglinde: it worked ! |
| 21:51.01 | woglinde | jan_js hehe |
| 21:52.28 | jan_js | yes. But The old sl-c700 is slow, much slower than my h3900 with fam.0.84 / gpe. |
| 21:52.49 | jan_js | They should be on par, since cpu and memory are similar ? |
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| 22:00.32 | psycoman | woglinde: sorry but where i can get makeinfo |
| 22:01.25 | woglinde | psycoman which linux distribution you have? |
| 22:01.30 | psycoman | crux.nu |
| 22:01.38 | woglinde | ???? |
| 22:01.42 | woglinde | jesus |
| 22:01.43 | psycoman | www.crux.nu |
| 22:02.09 | woglinde | CRUX is a lightweight, i686-optimized Linux distribution targeted at experienced Linux users |
| 22:02.12 | woglinde | did you read this? |
| 22:02.19 | psycoman | yeap |
| 22:02.30 | woglinde | and you ARE experienced Linux users? |
| 22:02.36 | psycoman | i can work with this built with no much problems |
| 22:02.43 | psycoman | no but works easy |
| 22:02.51 | woglinde | *sigh* |
| 22:03.03 | woglinde | tell you the word lightweight soemthing? |
| 22:03.36 | woglinde | crux is made for runnig apps |
| 22:03.42 | woglinde | not for developing apps |
| 22:04.04 | psycoman | makeinfo is in textinfo right ? |
| 22:04.09 | woglinde | right |
| 22:04.21 | psycoman | ok i have package to this ^ ^ in crux |
| 22:04.49 | woglinde | ~lart cacao for ignoring -classpath |
| 22:04.49 | ibot | cats /dev/urandom into cacao's ear for ignoring -classpath |
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| 22:08.42 | nodens | mhmm... fun bug in altboot : it cannot find losetup |
| 22:09.13 | nodens | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.35 | nodens | or is it just me ? |
| 22:15.43 | nodens | mhmm... yep, much better when adding PATH="/sbin:$PATH" in .cfg :) |
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| 22:17.34 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:17.44 | woglinde | jo coredump |
| 22:18.25 | nodens | hey CoreDump |
| 22:20.10 | tnb | koen: (or someone) can you help with a commit to OE? (first commit here). Monotone PhraseBook is not helping. |
| 22:20.14 | nodens | CoreDump|home, FYI, altboot isn't installed by default on current angstrom builds. However it is indeed available in the feeds :) |
| 22:20.35 | CoreDump|home | good enough ;) |
| 22:20.42 | tnb | I've done a pull, and mtn update, and commit, but to my knowledge nothing was committed |
| 22:20.52 | tnb | doing a push gives an error |
| 22:21.08 | tnb | mtn: warning: protocol error while processing peer monotone.openembedded.org: 'received network error: remote public key hash 'c7800fabe6b256e5092fbf3ee58368e6ad0a54a0' is unknown' |
| 22:21.15 | tnb | and mtn: warning: protocol error while processing peer monotone.openembedded.org: 'received network error: remote public key hash 'c7800fabe6b256e5092fbf3ee58368e6ad0a54a0' is unknown' |
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| 22:27.20 | tnb | I also get the same errors if I do a pull with using -k vs. using 'anonymous' |
| 22:28.06 | woglinde | dont use -k |
| 22:29.25 | tnb | woglinde: yes, that works (to not use -k) for pull, but not mtn push |
| 22:30.22 | woglinde | received network error: remote public key hash 'c7800fabe6b256e5092fbf3ee58368e6ad0a54a0' is unknown' |
| 22:30.27 | woglinde | tell you what? |
| 22:30.59 | nodens | where is the best place to request a new module for the spitz kernel ? |
| 22:31.19 | nodens | I tried to build it myself, no problem, works nicely |
| 22:31.32 | nodens | (so far) |
| 22:32.07 | nodens | (axnet_cs, needed for some ethernet CF that pcnet_cs does not support) |
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| 22:32.36 | nodens | bugzilla ? |
| 22:32.40 | nodens | mailing list ? |
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| 22:37.24 | woglinde | but it on bugzilla |
| 22:37.39 | woglinde | and then mention the bug here when more people are around |
| 22:39.03 | dcordes | yo mornin |
| 22:39.22 | dcordes | woglinde, which bug? |
| 22:40.08 | woglinde | -> < nodens> (axnet_cs, needed for some ethernet CF that pcnet_cs does not support) |
| 22:41.36 | dcordes | no idea |
| 22:41.40 | dcordes | i'm so wasted |
| 22:41.42 | dcordes | thing is |
| 22:42.02 | dcordes | i need to sell my zaurus so see you all 10-10-2007 |
| 22:42.44 | dcordes | hf at guadec and keep up the good work |
| 22:43.12 | woglinde | *sigh* He didnt understand |
| 22:43.18 | nodens | woglinde, ok |
| 22:43.43 | woglinde | nodens I could do it |
| 22:43.57 | woglinde | but that would made some people angry mabyee |
| 22:44.35 | nodens | well... I'm not in a hurry... I'm a big boy now, and I can add a module in my OE myself ;) |
| 22:45.00 | nodens | it would be nice if it where in the default kernel, though |
| 22:45.21 | woglinde | hehe |
| 22:46.07 | nodens | I'll file a bug later, I also need to downgrade to 2.6.20 to check if keylaunch works better than in 2.6.21, and file a bug if it's the case |
| 22:47.12 | nodens | then I need to partition my terrier again, because parted does not want to resize my root partition, even when booting on a SD... |
| 22:47.15 | nodens | </mylife> |
| 22:51.47 | CoreDump|home | noclouds: fwiw, you could backup your rootfs via netcat and DD over USB networking |
| 22:51.57 | CoreDump|home | s/noclouds/nodens |
| 22:52.27 | nodens | yup |
| 22:52.32 | nodens | I'll done that |
| 22:52.40 | nodens | s/done/do |
| 22:52.44 | CoreDump|home | that's how I made an image of the Trisoft HDD setup |
| 22:53.05 | nodens | but it would have been neat to resize / :) |
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| 22:53.27 | CoreDump|home | nodens: indeed |
| 22:53.37 | nodens | anyway... I found a bug in altboot... so it wasn't a complete waste of time ;) |
| 22:53.52 | CoreDump|home | bug #? |
| 22:54.17 | geddy | hi, just wondering, i'm trying to build task-base but i get a linker error on pciutils |
| 22:54.21 | geddy | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 22:54.21 | geddy | | make: *** [lspci] Error 1 |
| 22:54.22 | nodens | mhmm... lemme see... this damned ff just crashed |
| 22:54.48 | nodens | bug #2670 |
| 22:55.09 | CoreDump|home | !oebug 2670 |
| 22:55.13 | nodens | trivial to fix, except if you consider it's an init bug and not an altboot one |
| 22:56.23 | CoreDump|home | the bot appears to be hung |
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| 23:01.36 | nodens | ... parted refuses to build as well. I thought I saw a patch for working around the autoconf 2.61 problem... |
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| 23:01.44 | nodens | in the commit log |
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| 23:02.19 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2532 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by joaquinduran(AT)adtelecom.es |
| 23:02.21 | cdbot2 | * * Create .bb file for libsigc++ 2.0.17 package |
| 23:02.23 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2532 |
| 23:02.31 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2666 has been created by joaquinduran(AT)adtelecom.es |
| 23:02.33 | cdbot2 | * * Error while building the library libsigc++-2.0.17 |
| 23:02.35 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2666 |
| 23:02.43 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2667 has been created by uncle.grog(AT)gmail.com |
| 23:02.45 | cdbot2 | * * Sound problems with recent kernels a.k.a. asound statefiles need updating |
| 23:02.47 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2667 |
| 23:02.55 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2617 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2667 by dp(AT)xora.org.uk |
| 23:02.57 | cdbot2 | * * spitz/akita sound mixer misconfiguration |
| 23:02.59 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2617 |
| 23:03.07 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2658 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <Sokolovsky> |
| 23:03.09 | cdbot2 | * * linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.21-hh11-r1 fails to build |
| 23:03.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2658 |
| 23:03.15 | cdbot2 | * * Flood control triggered, clearing queue... |
| 23:03.19 | cdbot2 | * * [24] pending messages removed. |
| 23:03.34 | CoreDump|home | !oebug 2670 |
| 23:03.47 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2670, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-07-20 15:21 |
| 23:03.49 | cdbot2 | * * clement.hermann(AT)free.fr: initial env for altboot lacks /sbin in $PATH : losetup not found |
| 23:03.51 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2670 |
| 23:05.12 | nodens | this must be the most useful bot I've ever seen on an irc channel :) |
| 23:05.42 | CoreDump|home | heh |
| 23:06.36 | nodens | mhmm... usb and netcat aren't sey enough... let's use tar over ssh pipe ^ ^ </frustrated nerd> |
| 23:06.41 | nodens | s/sey/sexy/ |
| 23:07.37 | CoreDump|home | I'm not sure but unencrypted and uncompressed tar over nc is probably faster. In any case you want to avoid gzipping on the Z |
| 23:07.46 | nodens | I suppose I can substitute the angstrom tar.gz image with the resulting tar.gz and flash as usual ? |
| 23:07.59 | nodens | CoreDump|home, of course. gziping would be done on the other side |
| 23:08.36 | CoreDump|home | noclouds: that should work, yes. At least I don't see how that could break ;) |
| 23:08.38 | *** join/#oe MasterYoda (i=mnichols@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/MasterYoda) |
| 23:08.43 | nodens | tar cf - <annoying list> | ssh user@host gzip -c - > tarball.tgz |
| 23:08.58 | MasterYoda | what CMS system and wiki engine is used for the open embedded website? |
| 23:09.21 | nodens | maybe slower than netcat, *but* I already have a ssh daemon running ;) |
| 23:09.31 | CoreDump|home | right |
| 23:14.59 | MasterYoda | is it drupal? |
| 23:15.24 | MasterYoda | best drupal i have ever seen |
| 23:17.31 | nodens | MasterYoda, the css is named drupal.css, so I would guess so :) |
| 23:17.44 | nodens | but I don't have a clue besides that |
| 23:17.52 | MasterYoda | yeah, that's what I went off of too |
| 23:17.56 | MasterYoda | thanks anyway |
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| 23:24.30 | nodens | CoreDump|home, is kexec in altboot documented somewhere ? Or should I UTFS ? |
| 23:25.02 | CoreDump|home | there is no working built-in kexec support in altboot yet |
| 23:25.46 | nodens | oh |
| 23:25.50 | polyonymous | I hardly understand what do people want from altboot except for coming up at boot time and letting to select from menu. |
| 23:25.53 | nodens | I though so |
| 23:26.48 | nodens | running different kernel; and even different distro with different kernel |
| 23:27.11 | nodens | without having to wait for init to finish |
| 23:27.23 | nodens | or patching the kernel to use u-boot... |
| 23:27.55 | nodens | at least that's what I want ;) |
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| 23:49.43 | psycoman | i tring compile openbox in zaurus (native) |
| 23:50.10 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.11 | psycoman | /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glib-2.0-2.12.12-r2/glib-2.12.12/glib/libglib-2.0.la: No such file or directory |
| 23:50.17 | psycoman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.31 | psycoman | if this lib is in /usr/lib |
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