| 00:13.45 | jseghers | henryk: I'm running into a compiler error in qte |
| 00:15.58 | jseghers | henryk: I seem to remember I'd had to make sure I had gcc 3.x |
| 00:16.15 | jseghers | but I'm forgeting where I tell it to *use* gcc 3.x |
| 00:18.16 | jseghers | or perhaps I'm thinking of phoneme itself... |
| 00:20.53 | jseghers | henryk: the error actually seems to be that it's trying to run "moc" from the target toolchain |
| 00:22.36 | jseghers | I'm getting /home/moko/build/tmp/work/armv4-linux/qte-2.3.10-r49/qt-2.3.10/bin/moc: Command not found |
| 00:23.03 | jseghers | When trying to run moc on kernel/qthread_unix.cpp |
| 00:25.22 | jseghers | actually... there's nothing in that bin directory... |
| 00:25.40 | jseghers | cd \ |
| 00:25.53 | jseghers | (wrong window...sorry) |
| 00:55.00 | jseghers | henryk: Yes!!! it built. I just had to remove the DEPENDS for qte. |
| 00:55.18 | jseghers | henryk: Thank You! |
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| 01:24.42 | jseghers | henryk: It's running. It is taking over the entire screen when I run "usertest" but I saw in your build where you set the frame-buffer size. I don't suppose it's easy to make the frame buffer resize, or not be on top of other windows.... |
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| 01:54.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2638 has been created by r.farina(AT)adelphia.net |
| 01:54.07 | cdbot2 | * * ZD1211RW kernel drivers |
| 01:54.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2638 |
| 01:54.41 | Zero_Chaos | :-) |
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| 02:21.14 | Summmmy` | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.20 | Summmmy` | i've not quite found any clear instructions on how to do this so would i just get the bootstrap-image using the bitbake recipe and then make some modifications? |
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| 06:55.25 | m9dhatter | hello |
| 06:56.07 | m9dhatter | i need help trying to create an linux.bb file that depends on a cpio initramfs image. |
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| 07:29.19 | m9dhatter | hello? |
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| 07:36.40 | m9dhatter | anyone awake? |
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| 07:44.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2639 has been created by law(AT)a1.net |
| 07:44.06 | cdbot2 | * * ptim_*_svn.bb: Makefile patch isnt required any more |
| 07:44.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 |
| 07:45.34 | zecke | m9dhatter: sort of, but besides greping packages/linux for cpio I have no idea |
| 07:47.55 | XorA | morning |
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| 07:53.42 | florian | good morning |
| 07:55.18 | XorA | morning florian |
| 07:59.00 | jeff__ | good morning 2:58 am here :) |
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| 08:28.19 | m9dhatter | hello anyone? |
| 08:29.12 | m9dhatter | zecke: so far, none of the linux bb files use cpio as an initramfs |
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| 08:29.26 | B_Lizzard | Hello |
| 08:30.18 | B_Lizzard | I have a problem with how the new bitbake (1.8) bitbake works, should I post a "bug report" or should I just tell you guys? |
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| 08:31.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2639 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by <florian> |
| 08:31.07 | cdbot2 | * * ptim_*_svn.bb: Makefile patch isnt required any more |
| 08:31.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2639 |
| 08:32.25 | woglinde | hi |
| 08:32.29 | hrw | morning |
| 08:32.32 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 08:32.36 | florian | B_Lizzard: Bug reports are always better... and many of the developers are at Guadec already. |
| 08:32.41 | B_Lizzard | Aha |
| 08:32.51 | B_Lizzard | Ok, thanks a lot |
| 08:32.56 | hrw | B_Lizzard: tell |
| 08:32.57 | m9dhatter | afternoon here. :D |
| 08:33.05 | woglinde | florian what application is ptim? |
| 08:33.06 | hrw | florian: guadec already started? not friday? |
| 08:33.07 | florian | hi m9dhatter |
| 08:33.25 | B_Lizzard | Um, basically, could you make sure that bitbake cleans the workdir after each build if "rm_dir" is set, not matter the multithreading and whatever |
| 08:33.27 | florian | hi woglinde, hi hrw |
| 08:33.28 | B_Lizzard | ? |
| 08:33.33 | m9dhatter | hello florian. is do_rootfs always executed at the end of all bitbake builds? |
| 08:33.52 | m9dhatter | florian: i kinda need it to build *before* the kernel builds. |
| 08:34.03 | florian | hrw: yes sure, well... "in that direction" ;) |
| 08:34.10 | woglinde | hi florian |
| 08:34.15 | B_Lizzard | Ooops |
| 08:34.21 | B_Lizzard | I meant to say "rm_work" |
| 08:34.38 | hrw | B_Lizzard: it is not granted that rm_work will work at all with 1.8 |
| 08:34.55 | B_Lizzard | Basically, all this non-linear build and multithreading stuff beats the purpose of rm_work |
| 08:34.56 | florian | m9dhatter: Not necessarily - it depends on the target you build and with an up to date bitbake you can have quite some tasks after that. |
| 08:35.05 | hrw | B_Lizzard: and do_rootfs depends on do_package_write of all used names so it usually is at the end |
| 08:35.10 | B_Lizzard | It does, but it cleans at irregular periods |
| 08:35.25 | B_Lizzard | So it builds up |
| 08:36.05 | m9dhatter | florian: i used 1.8.6 and DEPENDS=some-image on some-linux.bb isnt producing an image before the kernel builds. |
| 08:36.48 | B_Lizzard | I mean, I use 1.8 for my everyday needs, and I change to 1.6 (which was made harder with these new sanity tests) when I want to clean my workdir |
| 08:37.09 | hrw | B_Lizzard: I can give you something to test |
| 08:37.16 | B_Lizzard | Is there any way I can clean all the completed packages' workdirs manually? |
| 08:37.22 | B_Lizzard | hrw, ok... :) |
| 08:37.46 | hrw | B_Lizzard: after build finish: rm-rf TMPDIR/work/ |
| 08:37.55 | m9dhatter | B_Lizzard: rm tmp/work/<arch>-linux>/<completed-pkgs> |
| 08:38.21 | B_Lizzard | Yeah, that's not clean |
| 08:38.36 | hrw | B_Lizzard: 1. remove addtask lines from rm_work.bbclass |
| 08:38.38 | B_Lizzard | I mean, I might need to inspect some unfinished packages |
| 08:38.39 | m9dhatter | B_Lizzard: thats VERY clean. :p |
| 08:38.43 | hrw | B_Lizzard: 2. add those lines to it: |
| 08:38.44 | hrw | +BB_DEFAULT_TASK = "rm_work" |
| 08:38.45 | hrw | +addtask rm_work after do_build |
| 08:38.52 | hrw | B_Lizzard: test does it works |
| 08:38.56 | B_Lizzard | Ok... |
| 08:38.59 | B_Lizzard | Lemme see then |
| 08:39.01 | florian | m9dhatter: hmm... can you paste the whole description at pastebin or somethign like that? |
| 08:39.33 | XorA | hrw: had a mass building splurge on autoconf 2.61 last night and found no problems |
| 08:39.59 | hrw | XorA: I only have a problem with alsa-lib but 1.0.14 from Poky fixed it |
| 08:40.23 | XorA | hrw: that must have been some wierd host conflict thingy, as I didnt see an issue |
| 08:40.35 | XorA | hrw: or maybe because I upgraded m4-native |
| 08:40.51 | XorA | hrw: scratch that last, I did that after image built |
| 08:41.18 | XorA | mallum loses out on his beer :-D |
| 08:41.34 | m9dhatter | florian: will do. please wait |
| 08:41.39 | woglinde | xora when its goin in? |
| 08:41.43 | hrw | XorA: I have m4-native 1.4.8 |
| 08:42.07 | XorA | hrw: you didnt push it |
| 08:42.08 | m9dhatter | florian: http://pastebin.com/d39051f48 |
| 08:42.12 | hrw | I know |
| 08:42.17 | XorA | hrw: I did last night |
| 08:42.26 | XorA | hrw: after I tested it on package that needs it |
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| 08:44.55 | hrw | XorA: did you booted resulting image? |
| 08:45.02 | XorA | hrw: not yet |
| 08:45.46 | hrw | ok |
| 08:50.06 | m9dhatter | am i still connected? :p |
| 08:50.12 | XorA | m9dhatter: no |
| 08:50.21 | m9dhatter | florian: http://pastebin.com/d39051f48 |
| 08:51.22 | florian | m9dhatter: hmm... doesn't look too bad... what's the name of that file? |
| 08:52.00 | rwhitby | If I build both a jffs2 rootfs (which uses the DEVICE_TABLE stuff to create the initial devices) and a .tar.gz rootfs image, how do I get the initial devices to appear in the .tar.gz rootfs image (or in the rootfs on disk when I untar it ready to boot to it) ? |
| 08:52.40 | hrw | rwhitby: untar as root |
| 08:52.58 | rwhitby | hrw: did that - the devices don't get into the .tar.gz in the first place. |
| 08:53.00 | m9dhatter | florian: err. i kinda just made that file up for an prototype embedded linux router we are making. |
| 08:53.19 | m9dhatter | florian: want to see the vrblade-image.bb file? |
| 08:53.24 | rwhitby | hrw: what determines whether the .tar.gz image has devices in it or not? |
| 08:54.14 | m9dhatter | florian: i forgot to tell you that there used to be a DEPENDS = "vrblade-image" around the top part |
| 08:54.44 | m9dhatter | florian: but i removed it because i'm kinda testing some things. |
| 08:54.46 | hrw | rwhitby: fakerooting of tar during archiving iirc |
| 08:55.04 | m9dhatter | florian: the problem occurs on line 23. because the cpio image isn't built yet. |
| 08:55.39 | florian | m9dhatter: yes, maybe paste the message and image file as well. |
| 08:56.14 | woglinde | m9dhatter cannt you point to the directory? |
| 08:56.36 | m9dhatter | woglinde: directory of what? |
| 08:56.46 | woglinde | for the cpio |
| 08:57.03 | woglinde | kernel takes cpio initramfscompatfile list or dirs |
| 09:00.26 | m9dhatter | woglinde, florian: http://pastebin.com/d798cf659 http://pastebin.com/d1b53402b |
| 09:01.17 | woglinde | m9dhatter so my idea was configure the kernel build the image and then the kernel |
| 09:01.25 | m9dhatter | woglinde: the cpio file is created by vrblade-image.bb but vrblade-linux doesn't call vrblade-image in its entirety. do_rootfs isnt called. |
| 09:01.37 | woglinde | ah okay |
| 09:02.15 | m9dhatter | woglinde: if i do bitbake vrblade-image && bitbake vrblade-linux, it executes fine. |
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| 09:03.12 | woglinde | what if you put DEPENDS line in there? |
| 09:03.19 | woglinde | in kernel receipe |
| 09:03.38 | woglinde | have you modules |
| 09:03.43 | woglinde | than you are in torubles |
| 09:03.51 | woglinde | egg hen problem |
| 09:03.55 | m9dhatter | woglinde: yep. the DEPENDS line was originally there. i only removed it during testing. i placed it back. no modules. |
| 09:04.12 | woglinde | why did you remove it? |
| 09:04.50 | m9dhatter | woglinde: because its not building anyway and im trying a few things just to make it work |
| 09:05.18 | woglinde | m9dhatter hm I maybay you need to kernel recipes |
| 09:05.25 | woglinde | one for build the kernel |
| 09:05.34 | woglinde | and one for build kernel with the initramfs |
| 09:05.49 | m9dhatter | woglinde: what are kernel recipies and how do i make em? |
| 09:06.06 | m9dhatter | woglinde: isnt vrblade-linux a kernel recipie already? |
| 09:06.19 | woglinde | m9dhatter yes |
| 09:06.31 | woglinde | I would take this one to build the kernel |
| 09:06.34 | woglinde | then image |
| 09:06.44 | woglinde | and than an other recpie to build kernel with initramfs |
| 09:06.56 | m9dhatter | woglinde: but the kernel build will fail without the initramfs.. |
| 09:07.18 | woglinde | as I said put a directory in that can be empty |
| 09:07.29 | m9dhatter | oh |
| 09:07.39 | woglinde | or a initramfsfilelist which only made one file |
| 09:07.41 | m9dhatter | interesting. |
| 09:07.45 | woglinde | yes |
| 09:08.05 | woglinde | I I tried to build a nfsroot pcmcia initramfs |
| 09:08.08 | m9dhatter | build with an empty file? will that work? :p |
| 09:08.18 | woglinde | so I read tons documentation about initramfs |
| 09:08.27 | woglinde | I guess no |
| 09:08.32 | woglinde | but try |
| 09:09.00 | woglinde | whithby? |
| 09:09.15 | rwhitby | woglinde: my problem, not yours |
| 09:09.57 | woglinde | oh |
| 09:10.00 | woglinde | :) |
| 09:10.11 | hrw | XorA: ERROR: '/home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded/packages/libsigc++-2.0/libsigc++-2.0_2.0.6.bb' failed |
| 09:10.21 | hrw | XorA: can you check with your 2.61 builddir? |
| 09:10.41 | m9dhatter | woglinde: i agree that an empty cpio file would probably build the kernel successfully but wont that still execute do_rootfs after BOTH kernel builds? |
| 09:11.48 | m9dhatter | woglinde: or am i horribly misunderstanding your solution? |
| 09:12.03 | XorA | /home/gg/zaurus/build-terrier/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/m4:configure.ac:89: ERROR: recursion limit of 1024 exceeded, use -L<N> to change it |
| 09:12.06 | woglinde | m9dhatter hm hrw maybee =knows better |
| 09:12.08 | XorA | hrw: that was for you |
| 09:12.12 | woglinde | if it possible |
| 09:12.27 | woglinde | after do?rootfs to build another package |
| 09:12.28 | hrw | XorA: same here |
| 09:12.59 | XorA | hrw: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/libsigc++/2.0/LATEST-IS-2.0.17 |
| 09:13.15 | woglinde | more rotten packages in OE? |
| 09:14.54 | m9dhatter | woglinde: it seems that bitbake *always* execute do_rootfs last after all DEPENDS and RDEPENDS. if this is true, then the easiest way for me to build my kernel is to do bitbake vrblade-image && bitbake vrblade-linux separately. :D |
| 09:16.07 | woglinde | m9dhatter yes |
| 09:16.48 | woglinde | I thought you want a solution where you only dit one bitnake |
| 09:16.48 | hrw | XorA: sure |
| 09:16.48 | m9dhatter | woglinde: i did. seems impossible |
| 09:16.53 | m9dhatter | woglinde: or if possible, im going to jump through hoops |
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| 09:17.15 | m9dhatter | woglinde: hoops doused with fire |
| 09:17.22 | woglinde | lol |
| 09:18.51 | XorA | hrw: 2.0.17 passes configure, barfs on C++ error on compile |
| 09:19.13 | florian | m9dhatter: sorry, had a phonecall... |
| 09:19.32 | woglinde | re florian :) |
| 09:20.04 | florian | m9dhatter: you have RDEPENDS but no DEPENDS in your image bb. |
| 09:20.07 | florian | :-) |
| 09:20.43 | m9dhatter | florian: tried DEPENDS, RDEPENDS, DEPENDS *with* RDEPENDS. |
| 09:21.07 | woglinde | R stands for runtime |
| 09:21.09 | m9dhatter | florian: any RDEPENDS = "vrblade-image" on vrblade-linux.bb will fail. |
| 09:21.13 | woglinde | I learnd yesterday |
| 09:21.24 | woglinde | DEPENDS is for building |
| 09:21.33 | m9dhatter | RDEPENDS for build and install? |
| 09:21.39 | m9dhatter | i think i read that somewhere |
| 09:21.41 | woglinde | no R for RUNTIME |
| 09:22.07 | m9dhatter | it fails miserably saying no runtime builds for vrblade-image |
| 09:22.15 | m9dhatter | so i used DEPENDS. |
| 09:22.28 | florian | m9dhatter: you need to depend on that task bb that pull in all the dependencies. |
| 09:23.08 | m9dhatter | florian: it has no problem pulling deps. its the image that isn't built before the kernel is configured. |
| 09:23.47 | m9dhatter | florian: do_rootfs is executed after all DEPENDS and RDEPENDS. if there is a way to force it to execute before vrblade-linux.bb, i would like to know |
| 09:24.03 | hrw | XorA: argh |
| 09:24.32 | florian | m9dhatter: ah ok, then you need to make sure your kernel is in the depends somewhere. do you set the preferred provider for virtual/kernel in your machine configuration? |
| 09:25.25 | m9dhatter | florian: actually, the nothing depends on the kernel. the kernel depends on the image. very unlike most linux.bb files |
| 09:25.28 | florian | m9dhatter: and make sure that you rebuild task-vrblade as well if you change this. |
| 09:26.08 | florian | m9dhatter: hmm... why this way around? usually the kernel (or some modules at least) go into the image |
| 09:26.44 | woglinde | florin initramfs |
| 09:26.45 | m9dhatter | florian: yep. this is definitely unusual. we use initramfs. the fs is embedded in the kernel. |
| 09:27.02 | woglinde | hm iam silly |
| 09:27.15 | florian | ah i see... |
| 09:27.15 | m9dhatter | it seems that OE is unfriendly towards initramfs. :p |
| 09:27.16 | woglinde | m9dahtter look initramfs-image.bb |
| 09:27.25 | woglinde | I totally forget this |
| 09:27.26 | m9dhatter | its mostly empty. :p |
| 09:28.07 | m9dhatter | i forgot to mention that task-vrblade is just task-boot without the kernel dependency. :D |
| 09:28.21 | Laibsch | I am trying to build ecore-native. Anybody understand what is missing from http://paste.stgraber.org/2071 ? |
| 09:28.34 | m9dhatter | because its the chicken,egg,crossing-street problem. |
| 09:28.45 | woglinde | laibsch X11 |
| 09:28.51 | woglinde | -dev |
| 09:28.58 | Laibsch | OK |
| 09:29.29 | woglinde | look at package splitting which libs-dev is really needed |
| 09:30.17 | Laibsch | woglinde: What package is that exactly? |
| 09:30.57 | woglinde | laibsch let me see |
| 09:31.24 | florian | m9dhatter: ok i see... then somethign pulls in your kernel and it is built before the image, right? |
| 09:31.25 | Laibsch | libx11-dev? |
| 09:31.42 | woglinde | no |
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| 09:32.29 | woglinde | laibsch cross compiling? |
| 09:32.33 | woglinde | or native? |
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| 09:32.55 | florian | m9dhatter: I can imagine how that happens... you maybe need some kernel modules in that image. |
| 09:32.56 | Laibsch | woglinde: Just "bitbake ecore-native" which fails. Thus cross-compiling. |
| 09:32.59 | florian | hey lrg |
| 09:33.02 | zecke | Laibsch: it is a native app, we quitly assume X11 headers being installed |
| 09:33.15 | florian | zecke: ! |
| 09:33.27 | zecke | florian: hi? Greenphone progress? |
| 09:33.42 | woglinde | laibsch -> xorg-headers-native.bb |
| 09:33.58 | m9dhatter | florian: i intended to just bitbake vrblade-linux and have it depend on vrblade-image. but eventhough vrblade-image is built, the image file isnt created yet. |
| 09:34.14 | florian | zecke: a very little bit - ordered a rs232 line driver for it. |
| 09:34.27 | zecke | hehe the good old max232 |
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| 09:34.29 | woglinde | line driver? |
| 09:34.30 | lrg | hey florian |
| 09:34.31 | m9dhatter | florian: there are no modules. everything is static so it shouldn't be a problem. |
| 09:34.37 | woglinde | oh okay |
| 09:35.02 | B_Lizzard | Damn parted needs another version of autoconf |
| 09:35.06 | florian | zecke: no, this one does not work properly with 3v... we have hundereds of this one here. |
| 09:35.09 | Laibsch | zecke: I don't think it is listed in RequiredSoftware |
| 09:35.14 | Laibsch | woglinde: Thanks! |
| 09:35.17 | woglinde | blizzard ask xora/hrw |
| 09:35.24 | woglinde | they working on it |
| 09:35.33 | zecke | florian: tell me more |
| 09:35.49 | woglinde | laibsch I am proud to be a search monkey |
| 09:35.53 | florian | woglinde: a small ic - it more or less converts the ttl signal level to 12v used by rs232. |
| 09:36.20 | woglinde | florian yes as zecke mentioned max232 I understand it |
| 09:36.39 | zecke | woglinde: and he said max232 doesn't work, and I wonder why |
| 09:36.41 | florian | m9dhatter: check your task if it maybe pulls in some kernel related stuff. |
| 09:37.01 | m9dhatter | florian: task-vrblade = task-boot - kernel dep |
| 09:37.03 | florian | zecke: it needs 5v |
| 09:37.18 | zecke | florian: right, and we took that from USB :) |
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| 09:38.35 | m9dhatter | florian, woglinde: its late and i'm going to clock out now. thanks for all the time, attention and help. :) |
| 09:39.33 | m9dhatter | florian, woglinde: i'll just stick with 2 separate bitbakes for now until OE becomes initramfs friendly. |
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| 09:40.02 | woglinde | m9dhatter as I said look at initramfs-image.bb |
| 09:40.07 | woglinde | *sigh* to late |
| 09:40.59 | florian | zecke: and where did you get 5v signal level? ;) |
| 09:44.32 | zecke | florian: sorry? I thought I need the 5V only for the voltage pump |
| 09:46.22 | florian | zecke: I thought the same but the hardware guys here told me something different. |
| 10:14.33 | woglinde | hm is there a reason why freetype is sticked at older vserions? |
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| 10:42.07 | hrw | XorA: can you forward me mickeyl's mail about guadec? I lost it |
| 10:43.14 | XorA | hrw: which email? |
| 10:43.39 | woglinde | hm noanswer about freetype? |
| 10:43.47 | XorA | hrw: hrw addr to send for you I mean |
| 10:43.57 | hrw | XorA: openembedded@hrw.one.pl |
| 10:45.58 | XorA | hrw: oops, I didnt realise there was a new mail just arrived, Ill send the right one |
| 10:46.33 | hrw | np |
| 10:47.49 | woglinde | he mickezl |
| 10:48.14 | mickeyl | hi woxlinde |
| 10:48.26 | mickeyl | aargh, right |
| 10:48.33 | woglinde | nee nicht die |
| 10:48.37 | mickeyl | nein? |
| 10:48.39 | mickeyl | sonder? |
| 10:48.42 | woglinde | die haette mit heute zu tun\ |
| 10:48.55 | woglinde | aber eine habe ich noch |
| 10:49.01 | woglinde | die kannste vielleicht beantworten |
| 10:49.16 | woglinde | warum die freetzpe version auf so ne alte version gesticked ist |
| 10:49.26 | woglinde | args englisches keyboard |
| 10:49.37 | mickeyl | hehe, btw. you realize we're in #oe, right? :D |
| 10:49.53 | woglinde | dmanit |
| 10:50.02 | woglinde | I need lunch |
| 10:54.49 | mickeyl | anyway, to answer your question. most of the times, the reason why we use an old version is that no one bothered to update. |
| 10:55.00 | mickeyl | or was scared |
| 10:55.08 | mickeyl | freetype is almost a base package nowadays for everything UI |
| 10:55.15 | mickeyl | so we have to take care everything still works |
| 10:55.18 | woglinde | hm freetype got serval security fixes |
| 10:55.42 | mickeyl | I'm all for updating. just make a test run with GPE and E |
| 10:55.49 | woglinde | than we have to low manpower to test |
| 10:55.50 | mickeyl | if these still work, it should be ok |
| 10:57.22 | woglinde | E is for enlightment? |
| 11:03.52 | zecke | yes |
| 11:04.14 | woglinde | okay |
| 11:06.08 | ljp | E is for entertainment |
| 11:06.26 | woglinde | he lorn |
| 11:06.37 | ljp | or perhaps Extended development period :) |
| 11:07.02 | zecke | ljp: hey |
| 11:07.14 | woglinde | lorn is there a bug with battery on grepphone |
| 11:07.20 | woglinde | my got very hot yesterday |
| 11:08.05 | ljp | ya, TAT table gets blown away, we have a general fix for that.. |
| 11:08.48 | woglinde | hm happend as it run low |
| 11:09.04 | ljp | was it plugged in? |
| 11:09.11 | woglinde | now |
| 11:09.43 | ljp | I will ask Aaron if the full flash has a replacement TAT |
| 11:09.48 | woglinde | battery status was at one bar |
| 11:09.55 | ljp | hmmm |
| 11:09.57 | woglinde | than I was at home |
| 11:10.01 | woglinde | took it out |
| 11:10.07 | woglinde | didnt switch on |
| 11:10.11 | ljp | never heard it getting hot when using battery |
| 11:10.12 | woglinde | and was very hot |
| 11:10.24 | woglinde | but at one tim at loading it was hot too |
| 11:10.46 | woglinde | yeah thats why was a littele bit confused |
| 11:10.59 | woglinde | thought It was broken |
| 11:11.13 | ljp | hmmm |
| 11:11.19 | ljp | odd. |
| 11:11.40 | woglinde | yes |
| 11:12.09 | woglinde | okay I need lunch\ |
| 11:12.11 | woglinde | nye |
| 11:12.12 | ljp | we have only seen battery getting hot when charging or leaving it plugged in. |
| 11:12.13 | woglinde | bye |
| 11:25.33 | mickeyl | hmm, who added qemu 0.9 ? |
| 11:25.57 | mickeyl | NOTE: Applying patch 'configure-0.9.0.patch' |
| 11:25.57 | mickeyl | NOTE: Task failed: Error: /home/oe/openmoko-oe.dev/org.openembedded.dev/packages/qemu/files/./configure-0.9.0.patch not found. |
| 11:30.15 | zecke | ljp: by your logic one should use WIndows. You have the headers of it and it is developed by the biggest software company in the world. They have the resources every month trolltech has used in the last 15 years :) |
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| 11:34.54 | ljp | i keep hearing people complain aboutthe lack of phone libraries, yet no one puts money where their mouth is, so to speak |
| 11:36.15 | zecke | ljp: well, we work on libgsmd. We work on OpenMoko. :) |
| 11:36.35 | zecke | ljp: You might find it funny but the primary usage of a phone is doing basic phone stuff |
| 11:37.02 | zecke | ljp: 98.4563% of all controlled experiments came to that conclusion |
| 11:37.42 | ljp | seems to me you could have a more working phone in less time and code if someone would write qtopia phone libraries |
| 11:37.44 | zecke | ljp: advertising a phone, which will lose phone caps when people rebuild software, as free software platform is just funny :) |
| 11:38.54 | ljp | caps? |
| 11:39.13 | hrw | capabilities |
| 11:39.55 | ljp | free + binaries |
| 11:40.16 | ljp | its open source. the point is, anyone can write anything for it, including phone libraries |
| 11:40.53 | ljp | seems like most people are takers not givers |
| 11:41.11 | NAbyss | ljp: Basic Human Nature. |
| 11:41.30 | ljp | and then complain about not getting enough. |
| 11:41.32 | stefan_schmidt | ljp: Seems like you living in a strange small world |
| 11:41.45 | ljp | uhh, no |
| 11:41.51 | zecke | ljp: well, why should I get locked in just to be able to write a free replacment to be free again? |
| 11:42.49 | ljp | seems like osme people just have their heads up their asses |
| 11:43.27 | zecke | ljp: Well, what you are advertising is the Microsoft strategy. They do what they want, release some header files and mono and wine people start implementing what ever microsoft thinks is right |
| 11:43.49 | zecke | ljp: and you know it is a stupid idea, every one knows it. If you s/Microsoft/Trolltech/ it remains a stupid idea :) |
| 11:44.02 | ljp | excuse me, MS doesnt give away 98% of their code |
| 11:44.53 | zecke | ljp: right, only 97.835% :) |
| 11:45.03 | ljp | uh huh |
| 11:45.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2640 has been created by xyzaid(AT)yahoo.fr |
| 11:45.07 | cdbot2 | * * e17 screen shifted left |
| 11:45.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2640 |
| 11:45.32 | ljp | i am just tired of the double standards in the community |
| 11:45.45 | zecke | ljp: lorn, I know you have a paid opinion. But don't advertise something as free when it is not, and people get locked in |
| 11:46.07 | zecke | ljp: there are no double standards, I find having an AGPS module completely stupid, it just wastes the battery life time |
| 11:46.08 | ljp | what part of GPL is not free? |
| 11:46.25 | zecke | ljp: what part of the empty set is not free. it is a tautology |
| 11:47.01 | ljp | if you dont like not having qtopia phone libraries, do something about it |
| 11:47.03 | NAbyss | ljp: It's easy. The people who're fanatical enough to care about free vs. Free are the ones who are also fanatical enough to contribute. Therefore, the majority of those who will contribute will pick a more Free (LGPL/BSD) project over one that is less (GPL) |
| 11:47.19 | zecke | ljp: can I use my SMS Application on a different hardware? No I can't. I could write my own SMS libraries but why should I start with Qtopia if I can do my own thing? |
| 11:47.49 | ljp | because qtopia GPL is 99% finished |
| 11:47.59 | zecke | ljp: I do so. I send patches, write code (even C and Gtk+) and heavily advertise OpenMoko |
| 11:48.43 | ljp | no, most people only contribute their opinions, not code |
| 11:48.43 | zecke | ljp: you know that this is a stinking lie. Grab an emulator image, make Qtopia work, as it is 99% done you can show something by tomorrow morning? |
| 11:48.59 | ljp | depends on what device |
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| 11:50.15 | NAbyss | ljp: Also, to be perfectly honest, the 'entitlement' attitude comes off as counter-productive - i.e. "I wrote this why won't the community finish it for me?! We need library X and library Y!" |
| 11:50.29 | zecke | ljp: If you think the Neo would be better with Qtopia: Grab the emulator image, poke with it, integrate your Qtopia test it. trolltech has one of my Neo's make use of it! |
| 11:53.08 | ljp | trolltech munich has it |
| 11:53.40 | zecke | ljp: you have an emulator, that runs the same kernel as the device |
| 11:53.47 | zecke | ljp: and it is 100% free |
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| 11:54.57 | zecke | ljp: you can always visit the munich office for a hacking session? |
| 11:55.14 | zecke | ljp: I'm sure you have budget for such activities benefiting your image |
| 11:56.09 | ljp | which is one reason i am not community manager |
| 11:56.11 | CoreDump|afk | I guess *that* we can all understand =) |
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| 12:14.08 | zecke | ljp: by the way what is your creative friday project? |
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| 12:44.44 | summatusmentis | hi hrw |
| 12:46.56 | hrw | hi summatusmentis |
| 12:51.00 | summatusmentis | hrw: is there a more in depth tutorial as to how OE works w/ images, and all the stuff needed in an image? |
| 12:51.30 | summatusmentis | I'm interested in getting angstrom-e-image back to 'working' status, but I have no clue as to where to start, etc. |
| 12:52.40 | hrw | summatusmentis: build it, boot it. then fix it on device and get fixes back to OE |
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| 12:52.56 | hrw | then build new image, boot it - if it works then you fixed it |
| 12:53.52 | summatusmentis | hrw: lol, ok. I didn't know if there was some description of the various variables, or whatever else OE uses internally |
| 12:55.40 | hrw | summatusmentis: basically you want PACKAGE_INSTALL and RDEPENDS |
| 12:56.02 | summatusmentis | ok, thanks :-) |
| 13:01.28 | henryk | re |
| 13:14.16 | hrw | hi henryk |
| 13:14.24 | henryk | re |
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| 14:03.30 | mrdata | hi all |
| 14:04.27 | Summmmy` | im attempting to build bootstrap-image using bitbake and i've got errors on task 747 of 1367 : cp: cannot stat `stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/alsa/alsa-states/*.state' : No such file or directory |
| 14:04.42 | hrw | Summmmy`: distro? machine? |
| 14:04.50 | Summmmy` | akita, angstrom |
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| 14:06.06 | hrw | argh |
| 14:06.09 | hrw | ~curse mickeyl |
| 14:06.10 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, mickeyl ! |
| 14:06.16 | hrw | ~curse mickeyl twice |
| 14:06.17 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, mickeyl twice ! |
| 14:06.42 | Summmmy` | any ideas? |
| 14:07.18 | hrw | vi tasks/task-base.bb and remove alsa-states line |
| 14:07.41 | Summmmy` | hrw : im new to this, but is that ok to do? |
| 14:07.58 | hrw | do that and tell does it help |
| 14:08.05 | Summmmy` | ok |
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| 14:14.27 | chouimat | morning |
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| 14:27.14 | Summmmy` | hrw : if i comment out alsa-states from RRECOMMENDS, then i get errors: ERROR: No providers of runtime build target #alsa-states (for ['/stuff/org.opemembedded.dev/packages/tasks/task-base.bb'] |
| 14:27.44 | hrw | remove not comment |
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| 14:28.16 | sirfred | Good afternoon |
| 14:29.33 | slapin | ~oemirrors |
| 14:29.34 | ibot | somebody said oemirrors was extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 14:29.45 | slapin | hi, all! |
| 14:31.26 | summatusmentis | hi slapin |
| 14:34.47 | slapin | any ideas on more or less fast way to check which module packages are required to be installed for whole chain to be there, and which ones correlate with task-base things? |
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| 14:37.38 | Zero_Chaos | alsa-states fails. |
| 14:38.21 | Crofton|laptop | anyone elase having trouble pulling? |
| 14:38.27 | XorA | Crofton|laptop: use a mirror |
| 14:38.44 | Crofton|laptop | grr, now I have to learn a new command ... |
| 14:38.55 | Zero_Chaos | and more importantly, why do we have alsa-states and alsa-state in monotone? does anyone even check this shit? |
| 14:40.20 | hrw | blame mickey|bbl |
| 14:40.32 | hrw | brb |
| 14:40.54 | Crofton | thanks XorA , that was not even painful :) |
| 14:44.26 | Summmmy` | im stuck here, cant build bootstrap-image because of alsa-states, how much should i commend out? |
| 14:49.16 | mrdata | Summmmy`: in task-base.bb after RRECOMMENDS_task-base-alsa = "\ remove the line alsa-states \ |
| 14:49.54 | Summmmy` | mrdata : remove or comment out? |
| 14:50.25 | mrdata | Summmmy`: also comment out works by me -> # alsa-states |
| 14:50.41 | mrdata | Summmmy`: but i remove the last \ in this line |
| 14:51.18 | mrdata | Summmmy`: but it may be better to remove the whole line to be save |
| 14:51.43 | Summmmy` | mrdata : sec, ill just try that |
| 14:52.04 | mrdata | Summmmy`: i had the same error 5 min before |
| 14:53.25 | Summmmy` | mrdata : lol |
| 14:53.25 | mrdata | next xorg-server kdrive will not compile by me |
| 14:53.33 | mrdata | Summmmy`: what? |
| 14:53.51 | mrdata | my xorg-server problem? |
| 14:53.57 | Summmmy` | mrdata : just that you had the same error :) lucky me. |
| 14:54.36 | Summmmy` | mrdata : which task is xorg-server kdrive? |
| 14:55.10 | hrw | Summmmy`: xserver-kdrive |
| 14:56.19 | Summmmy` | hrw : thx |
| 14:56.37 | Summmmy` | hrw : you had much fun with Neo phone? |
| 14:56.51 | hrw | not quite |
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| 14:58.05 | Summmmy` | hrw : how come? |
| 14:58.30 | hrw | lack of keys make it hard to use |
| 14:58.38 | hrw | I also do not like thick case |
| 15:00.07 | Summmmy` | hrw : shame, it looked promising |
| 15:00.18 | hrw | it is promising |
| 15:00.27 | hrw | I just do not like few things in it |
| 15:00.35 | hrw | but it is great hacking device |
| 15:02.49 | alphaone | Can anyone tell me what the best way is to have the hwclock initscript start at startup? |
| 15:03.26 | alphaone | hwclock comes from busybox and I guess the initscript is not added to bootup there for a good reason. |
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| 15:06.50 | alphaone | something like DISTRO_EXTRA_INITSCRIPT |
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| 15:38.02 | chouimat | hmmmm can get to the website :( |
| 15:38.12 | chouimat | s/can/can't |
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| 16:23.38 | psokolovsky | ~oemirrors |
| 16:23.39 | ibot | i heard oemirrors is extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
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| 16:52.32 | zecke | drw: ping |
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| 16:54.24 | Jin^eLD | hey, likewise ! :) |
| 16:54.27 | likewise | whee |
| 16:54.27 | Jin^eLD | welcome back :> |
| 16:55.18 | woglinde | hi likewise |
| 16:57.15 | likewise | hey all! |
| 16:57.22 | likewise | feels good to be back |
| 16:57.47 | likewise | so what's new? :-) |
| 16:57.59 | woglinde | openmoko.com |
| 16:58.01 | woglinde | *g* |
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| 16:58.23 | likewise | my colleague across me just ordered a phone |
| 16:58.35 | Jin^eLD | I'll wait for a wifi version :P |
| 16:58.45 | Jin^eLD | and USB 2.0 would be nice too |
| 16:58.47 | Zero_Chaos | agreed ;-) |
| 16:58.50 | Zero_Chaos | on both |
| 16:58.54 | Jin^eLD | =) |
| 16:59.29 | Jin^eLD | hehe |
| 16:59.59 | Jin^eLD | well, 300USD is actually quite ok if compared to phones when you buy them without contract |
| 17:00.13 | woglinde | right |
| 17:00.16 | Jin^eLD | I am not sure how customs are handled when ordering the phone to the EU |
| 17:00.32 | likewise | Jin^eLD: $100 shipping costs |
| 17:00.34 | woglinde | you mean vat? |
| 17:00.43 | likewise | Jin^eLD: and i can tell about his experiences soon |
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| 17:00.52 | chouimat | Jin^eLD: and the problem will or might be to get the phone company give your the right to use it ... |
| 17:00.54 | likewise | woglinde: vat *plus* import taxes |
| 17:00.54 | woglinde | hi mr_nice |
| 17:01.03 | Jin^eLD | likewise: well shipping is not such a big issue, about 4 people here want to order so we can divide the shipping costs |
| 17:01.03 | mr_nice | hi woglinde |
| 17:01.10 | woglinde | chouimat?why? |
| 17:01.19 | woglinde | put sim card in and phone |
| 17:01.24 | woglinde | europe is quite fine |
| 17:01.42 | Jin^eLD | woglinde: vat is just tax right? I mean customs, when importing goods from abroad |
| 17:02.03 | woglinde | jinled yes vat for importing in germany 19% |
| 17:02.04 | chouimat | woglinde: north america companies are quite territorial if they don't sell the phone they might just tell you to go f* yourself |
| 17:02.07 | Jin^eLD | chouimat: why would I even ask my operator? :) it's a GSM phone, so as woglinde said - just put in the sim card :P |
| 17:02.12 | woglinde | choiumat I know |
| 17:02.18 | Jin^eLD | woglinde: is VAT the mehrwertsteuer? |
| 17:02.23 | woglinde | jineled right |
| 17:02.35 | Jin^eLD | woglinde: what I mean is "zoll" |
| 17:02.41 | chouimat | Jin^eLD: prepaid card? |
| 17:02.51 | summatusmentis | chouimat: yeah, I don't plan on asking whatever carrier I go with for it |
| 17:03.10 | Jin^eLD | chouimat: no, I have a sim-only contract here; I never sign up for two years or crap like that, I want to be able to cancel the contract at any time, so I always buy my own hardware |
| 17:03.23 | woglinde | jineld hm I think only vat and you are gone |
| 17:03.30 | woglinde | but dont know for sure |
| 17:03.35 | chouimat | Jin^eLD: ok a monthly contract :) |
| 17:03.52 | woglinde | if you have bad luck you must go to the toll and get it there |
| 17:03.55 | Jin^eLD | chouimat: well its more like "as long as you wish" contract, but I can cancell it on a montly bases :) |
| 17:04.16 | chouimat | Jin^eLD: sound like a good idea :) |
| 17:04.17 | Jin^eLD | woglinde: well, why VAT when importing stuff? how does duty free work? :) |
| 17:04.39 | Jin^eLD | chouimat: yes.. considering the price battles here, I just wait for another carrier to become cheaper :> |
| 17:04.45 | woglinde | jineld dont askme |
| 17:04.51 | Jin^eLD | woglinde :) |
| 17:05.27 | chouimat | Jin^eLD: hehe ... it's the same in canada ;) |
| 17:05.38 | Jin^eLD | =) |
| 17:06.15 | chouimat | hmmmm look like the thunderstorm will soon be here ... yay ... COLD FRONT :) |
| 17:07.18 | woglinde | choiumat it was already here |
| 17:10.25 | mwester | passed through here yesterday evening... |
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| 17:16.50 | woglinde | ~mirror |
| 17:16.53 | woglinde | ~mirrors |
| 17:16.54 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, mirrors is Official Debian archive mirrors get an address of the form ftp://ftp.<country>.debian.org. These are the best advertised and most used sites; the face of Debian for most people. A list is available at http://www.debian.org/mirror/official/ |
| 17:18.03 | woglinde | I am in #debian? |
| 17:18.03 | Zero_Chaos | ~oemirrors |
| 17:18.04 | ibot | i guess oemirrors is extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 17:18.11 | woglinde | thanks zero |
| 17:18.17 | Zero_Chaos | np |
| 17:21.07 | Summmmy` | when i attempt to build the altboot-console-image i get an error: ERROR: No providers of build target altboot-console-image (for []) |
| 17:21.41 | Summmmy` | whoops, wrong channel :) |
| 17:22.21 | likewise | anyone building for x86_64 targets? |
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| 17:44.11 | drw | zecke: pong |
| 17:44.59 | jseghers | woglinde: Thanks for pointing me to henryk yesterday. I've got it working now. |
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| 17:49.29 | zecke | drw: have you started to judge GP apps yet? |
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| 17:59.48 | flo_lap | re |
| 18:01.50 | Jin^eLD | wb |
| 18:09.04 | dfoley | anyone available to discuss a problem i'm having with gpe-image failing to build ? |
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| 18:24.26 | keesj | Hi |
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| 18:37.19 | tony_ | hey folks, does anyone here use the OE forums at this site? http://www.oesf.org/forums/ |
| 18:37.40 | tony_ | i have been trying for ages to get a registered user name here |
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| 18:50.37 | Crofton|home | ~oesf |
| 18:50.38 | ibot | rumour has it, oesf is rumour has it, oesf is newer name of ZUG - it provides forum for Zaurus/Ipaq/Simpad/etc users (see zug). It has nothing in common with OpenEmbedded (except for the first two letters), see http://www.oesf.org/ |
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| 18:58.11 | tony_ | Crofton|home: hmmm, ok, so is there a more appropriate forum online? |
| 19:00.07 | Shoragan | how do i get bitbake to build all dependencies for a task (like task-openmoko-native-sdk)? |
| 19:00.42 | polyonymous | Shoragan, build the task? |
| 19:02.09 | Shoragan | task-openmoko-native-sdk is defined in task-openmoko.bb... and it can only build task-openmoko, for task-openmoko-native-sdk it tells me "ERROR: Nothing provides dependency task-openmoko-native-sdk" |
| 19:04.52 | polyonymous | well, I don't know then :) |
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| 19:16.26 | Crofton | hmmm, roundtrip to Brussells for last weekend in Feb is $571 atm |
| 19:16.39 | Crofton | of course I have to leave on Tuesday or Thursday b4 |
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| 19:52.22 | ljp | hmm.. great. i am the tslib guy at TT who get to 'help' tslib emails |
| 19:55.08 | zecke | ljp: haha, tslib has plugins you don't need to filter yourself. The calibration method in QtE is not complete. it only calculates half of the matrix and doesn't work on all touchscreens |
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| 19:56.16 | ljp | thats because ts handling is linear only in qt |
| 19:56.33 | ljp | sensd us a non linear ts device and we might fix this |
| 19:57.19 | ljp | the jitter filters in qt are different as well |
| 19:57.44 | ljp | i think there was some changes recerntly to main in this regard.. |
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| 19:59.33 | ljp | or maybe that had to do with an int overflow :) |
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| 20:11.57 | woglinde | re |
| 20:13.23 | zecke | I'm going home |
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| 21:02.16 | Shoragan | ~oemirrors |
| 21:02.17 | ibot | rumour has it, oemirrors is extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 21:03.17 | summatusmentis | can I bitbake multiple packages at the same time? |
| 21:04.52 | Shoragan | summatusmentis, just use something like 'bitbake cvs bash ...' |
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| 21:05.18 | summatusmentis | Shoragan: alright, that's what I was wondering |
| 21:05.19 | summatusmentis | thanks |
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| 21:08.57 | woglinde | hi psokolovsky |
| 21:12.38 | mrdata | night all |
| 21:12.39 | jseghers | woglinde: hi, Do you have any idea why the qte 2.3.10 build in OE would fail to build? It looks like it is expecting to have built a "moc" executable for the build host, but there's not one there. |
| 21:13.12 | psokolovsky | hi |
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| 21:20.13 | ljp | jseghers: need to also build uicmoc package, if it doesn;t automagically do it |
| 21:20.33 | jseghers | ljp: thank you! I'll give that a try. |
| 21:24.48 | cbrake_ | does qemu in OE still require gcc 3.x to be installed? |
| 21:26.00 | jseghers | cbrake_: my understanding is "yes". Fortunately, Ubuntu has packages for it that will install it in parallel quite nicely :) |
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| 21:26.37 | cbrake_ | jseghers: from the recipe is looks that way. I thought I heard that gcc 4 worked -- doing a little more research ... |
| 21:31.32 | psokolovsky | cbrake_: should work |
| 21:32.48 | cbrake_ | psokolovsky: there is still a bunch of gcc-3.x stuff in qemu-native.inc. Is that still needed? |
| 21:33.26 | psokolovsky | well, need to look, not now |
| 21:33.30 | psokolovsky | good night |
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| 21:33.41 | polyonymous | I think at least the latest qemu with fixes for amd64 didn't work for me without gcc3 |
| 21:33.42 | likewise | hello all |
| 21:33.43 | summatusmentis | ~oemirrors |
| 21:33.43 | ibot | hmm... oemirrors is extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 21:34.21 | polyonymous | where do we push now, btw? I've just pushed to ewi, I think. |
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| 21:36.17 | likewise | openembedded is down? |
| 21:36.25 | polyonymous | somewhat |
| 21:36.27 | Laibsch | again? |
| 21:36.40 | likewise | or just dead slow? |
| 21:36.46 | likewise | what kind of machine is that anyway? |
| 21:36.48 | polyonymous | do you mean http? |
| 21:36.58 | likewise | yup, too long to respond on http |
| 21:37.04 | polyonymous | I think it's dead slow |
| 21:37.18 | polyonymous | but when I say "dead" - I mean it :) |
| 21:38.03 | Laibsch | still no connection via ssh |
| 21:38.35 | Laibsch | OK, I'm in |
| 21:39.14 | Laibsch | load again close to 100 |
| 21:39.18 | Laibsch | as expected |
| 21:40.15 | polyonymous | uhh |
| 21:40.22 | polyonymous | what is it doing so hard? |
| 21:41.46 | Laibsch | I think pondering the misconfigurations |
| 21:42.00 | Laibsch | The machine was and still is a mess admin-wise |
| 21:42.23 | Laibsch | I cleaned it up a bit, but there is still a lot of things going wrong |
| 21:42.44 | Laibsch | For example there are three instances of postgresql on the machine, 7-4, 8.1 and 8.2 |
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| 21:48.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2641 has been created by marek.vasut(AT)gmail.com |
| 21:48.07 | cdbot2 | * * svn.sf.net renamed to project.svn.sf.net |
| 21:48.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2641 |
| 21:49.58 | woglinde | ~curse sourceforge |
| 21:49.59 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, sourceforge ! |
| 21:51.27 | Laibsch | I think ltg should be back up. Let's see for how long |
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| 21:53.57 | likewise | good luck on the server, I'm off to bed. |
| 21:54.00 | likewise | gnite all |
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| 22:04.17 | polyonymous | and all three postgreses are in use? |
| 22:04.38 | Laibsch | polyonymous: I don't know |
| 22:04.43 | polyonymous | ok :) |
| 22:04.44 | woglinde | florian knows |
| 22:05.00 | Laibsch | It took a big effort to mess this one up so thoroughly ;-) |
| 22:05.41 | polyonymous | well, sometimes it makes sense to have a couple of postgreses, but 8.1 and 8.2 - sounds like someone just didn't have time to migrate data. |
| 22:13.23 | woglinde | hm newer libxml2 seems to fix the xslt bug |
| 22:15.48 | polyonymous | then it wasn't xslt bug? :) What was the bug, btw? |
| 22:16.19 | woglinde | hm |
| 22:16.23 | woglinde | dont know anymore |
| 22:16.31 | woglinde | its gone |
| 22:16.39 | woglinde | ah hm |
| 22:16.49 | woglinde | gzopen64 not found in libxml.so |
| 22:17.11 | woglinde | polyonymous should I push it? |
| 22:17.35 | polyonymous | ah buildtime bug. Well, sounds like not xslt bug :)) |
| 22:17.39 | polyonymous | and why do you ask me? :) |
| 22:17.43 | woglinde | jepp |
| 22:17.50 | woglinde | but happend at xslt |
| 22:17.53 | woglinde | build |
| 22:18.07 | woglinde | so I called xlst bug |
| 22:18.12 | polyonymous | I have built xslt, I believe about a year ago last time :) |
| 22:18.17 | polyonymous | At least intentionally :) |
| 22:18.27 | woglinde | hm no X images? |
| 22:18.41 | woglinde | because libsdl-x11 needs it |
| 22:18.45 | polyonymous | woglinde, I said "intentionally" :) If x images require it, than I have. |
| 22:19.34 | woglinde | oe update politics is conservative |
| 22:19.37 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:19.38 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:19.43 | woglinde | hi coredump |
| 22:20.10 | polyonymous | woglinde, well, you can always add default preference of -1 |
| 22:20.18 | woglinde | re mickeyl |
| 22:20.27 | mickeyl | alsa-state and alsa-states serve two different purposes. don't remove one of them |
| 22:20.33 | mickeyl | sorry about alsa-states, fixing it now |
| 22:20.39 | polyonymous | and woglinde I haven't seen the bug. Or do you build for 64bit platform? |
| 22:20.40 | woglinde | I will never touch alsa |
| 22:20.46 | woglinde | no uclibc |
| 22:21.23 | woglinde | than the only benefit from uclibc is faster compiling |
| 22:21.32 | woglinde | if all compiles and runs |
| 22:23.07 | woglinde | hm mesa is behind too |
| 22:30.10 | kergoth | okay, if i have multiple monotone keys in ~/.monotone, how do i choose what will be used when working against a given mtn db/ |
| 22:30.41 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 22:30.51 | Crofton | how did you end up with multiple keys? |
| 22:31.21 | Crofton | try mtn help push |
| 22:31.48 | Crofton | mtn list keys may be useful |
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| 22:36.19 | kergoth | hm |
| 22:37.09 | woglinde | kergoth when you make pull choose the key |
| 22:37.24 | woglinde | or the login |
| 22:37.30 | woglinde | or have one login more keys? |
| 22:39.20 | kergoth | i knwe about -k, was just wondering if there was a way to set that by default for a given db |
| 22:39.42 | kergoth | naturally i lost my old keypairs, had to send the new public keys to mickeyl |
| 22:39.43 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:39.47 | kergoth | someday i'll learn to backup. |
| 22:40.02 | woglinde | oh |
| 22:41.22 | polyonymous | kergoth, but if you lost your old keypair how would it interfere? |
| 22:42.02 | kergoth | it doesnt, i just generated two keys, one for oe and one for another mtn db i'm playing with |
| 22:42.10 | polyonymous | ah |
| 22:42.15 | kergoth | :) |
| 22:42.44 | polyonymous | It's actually somewhat silly that we have these @oe keys - if you have your real primary email then you just use the same key with all projects... |
| 22:42.53 | kergoth | yeah.. |
| 22:43.07 | polyonymous | luckily I don't have any other mtn projects :) |
| 22:43.41 | kergoth | i dont have any real ones, just trying to get familiar with mtn.. i'm one of those people that has to know all the knooks and crannies of their scm tool before they're happy using it |
| 22:43.47 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:44.12 | polyonymous | kergoth, I know the feeling. But can't you use your oe key with this db? |
| 22:44.30 | woglinde | kergoth I forget my password and send in new key too |
| 22:44.44 | woglinde | than I took the new -kname and pushes were fine |
| 22:44.45 | polyonymous | kergoth, http://monotone.ca/docs/Hooks.html#Hooks |
| 22:44.51 | kergoth | i can, but i still wanted to know how to handle this use case :) |
| 22:45.07 | polyonymous | looks like you can only do it via hook |
| 22:46.07 | polyonymous | oh, I can commit with author "My Name <polyonymous@openembedded.org>" :)) |
| 22:49.11 | woglinde | args |
| 22:49.13 | woglinde | + -I/usr/include \ |
| 22:49.19 | polyonymous | woglinde, where? |
| 22:49.20 | woglinde | in a mesa.patch |
| 22:49.23 | polyonymous | ah |
| 22:49.28 | woglinde | for host compiling |
| 22:49.34 | polyonymous | fun |
| 22:49.35 | woglinde | that suckz |
| 22:49.40 | woglinde | even it fixes the build |
| 22:49.50 | polyonymous | it shouldn't. |
| 22:50.17 | woglinde | let me see who commited it |
| 22:50.54 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.58 | woglinde | ~seen ifaistos |
| 22:51.21 | ibot | ifaistos <n=stelios@noname-213.5.161.72.acn.gr> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 52d 9h 24s ago, saying: ':)'. |
| 22:52.11 | polyonymous | cheshire cat - you only have his smile. |
| 22:53.58 | summatusmentis | does building abiword build all of it's plugins? what about gnumeric? |
| 23:02.00 | mickeyl | woglinde: ping |
| 23:02.05 | mickeyl | urgs |
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| 23:52.26 | Zero_Chaos | ~oemirrors |
| 23:52.28 | ibot | oemirrors is probably extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |