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| 00:05.44 | Marex | psokolovsky, fix it and send patch ;-E |
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| 04:55.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2628 has been created by winthrowe(AT)gmail.com |
| 04:55.06 | cdbot2 | * * No audio driver built for h5000 |
| 04:55.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2628 |
| 05:07.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2629 has been created by winthrowe(AT)gmail.com |
| 05:07.07 | cdbot2 | * * No wireless driver built for h5000 |
| 05:07.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 |
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| 07:39.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2630 has been created by xjqian(AT)gmail.com |
| 07:39.07 | cdbot2 | * * screen rotation applet broken in Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070605-tosa |
| 07:39.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2630 |
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| 08:08.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2631 has been created by utx(AT)penguin.cz |
| 08:08.06 | cdbot2 | * * X server returns inconsistent RandR on spitz/akita |
| 08:08.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2631 |
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| 08:20.33 | hrw | hi |
| 08:22.44 | koen|inverness | hey hrw |
| 08:24.53 | XorA | ERROR: ------------------- |
| 08:24.53 | XorA | ERROR: glib-2.0-dev is listed in PACKAGES mutliple times, this leads to packaging errors. |
| 08:24.53 | XorA | ERROR: Please fix the metadata/report this as bug to OE bugtracker. |
| 08:24.53 | XorA | ERROR: ------------------- |
| 08:24.55 | XorA | WTF |
| 08:26.31 | XorA | who messed with glib.inc |
| 08:26.47 | XorA | PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-dev glib-2.0-utils " |
| 08:26.52 | XorA | kinda obvious bug there |
| 08:27.21 | hrw | I fixed such one in libxosd yesterday |
| 08:27.52 | koen|inverness | XorA: mtn annotate is your friend |
| 08:28.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2632 has been created by utx(AT)penguin.cz |
| 08:28.06 | cdbot2 | * * icewm is unusable in the default configuration |
| 08:28.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2632 |
| 08:28.10 | XorA | koen|inverness: debian doesnt have a new enough version of mtn :-) |
| 08:28.23 | hrw | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Revision: e25c5e38674da9988b268e6af89a90ecbbe1dac6 |
| 08:28.27 | hrw | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Ancestor: adc9d2b07147baa9165b930a857e39f5f57331a3 |
| 08:28.28 | koen|inverness | e25c5e38.. by pfalcon 2007-07-04: PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-dev glib-2.0-utils " |
| 08:28.30 | hrw | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: pfalcon@openembedded.org |
| 08:28.33 | hrw | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Date: 2007-07-04T22:19:29 |
| 08:28.41 | hrw | ~lart mtn log defaults |
| 08:28.41 | ibot | steals mtn log defaults's mojo |
| 08:29.15 | hrw | XorA: 0.33 is in experimental, 0.35 on monotone site |
| 08:29.57 | koen|inverness | XorA: http://rafb.net/p/OSWpJX45.html |
| 08:31.07 | XorA | pushed fix anyway |
| 08:32.19 | XorA | we should randomely add INHERIT += "insane" all over distro/*.conf to make people obey the warnings |
| 08:32.34 | XorA | so they cant find all the occurances to remove it |
| 08:33.10 | hrw | and few times in base.bbclass, bitbake.conf? |
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| 08:34.39 | XorA | hrw: :-D |
| 08:35.03 | hrw | ~lart openmoko uboot |
| 08:35.03 | ibot | beats openmoko uboot severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 08:35.12 | XorA | heh heh, whats it broke? |
| 08:35.32 | hrw | | Patch uboot-dfu.patch does not apply (enforce with -f) |
| 08:35.48 | hrw | and their do_quilt task is sick |
| 08:36.09 | hrw | 'fetch patches, apply patches, remove them' |
| 08:36.19 | XorA | hrw: yeah I complained about it in kernel, but they are pretty dead set on it |
| 08:36.20 | hrw | lack of 'check does they applied' |
| 08:36.50 | hrw | they should use git tree for own branch of kernel and uboot |
| 08:36.55 | djay-il | hello all |
| 08:39.46 | CIA-3 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r2f67b52c... 10/ (1 packages/glib-2.0/glib.inc): packages/glib-2.0/glib.inc : remove bogus ${PN}-dev from packages. |
| 08:39.53 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5675a11f... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): e-wm: fix startup script, fix u-a and install xdg stuff (per http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/E17_and_Efreet) |
| 08:40.13 | hrw | koen|inverness: I was thinking that you are on vacations... |
| 08:40.27 | koen|inverness | XorA: wasn't the -dev in front of the packages statement to get the headers inside /lib into the correct package? |
| 08:40.48 | koen|inverness | hrw: right, and I'm waiting for the train to arrive |
| 08:40.58 | XorA | koen|inverness: -dev is already added to PACKAGES by default |
| 08:41.25 | koen|inverness | but after ${PN}, right? |
| 08:41.39 | XorA | koen|inverness: well then += is the wrong operation and whoever wrote it is a tit |
| 08:42.56 | koen|inverness | anyway, /me heads out |
| 08:43.18 | XorA | koen|inverness: there is no explanation of what was trying to do in that commit message therefore it is bogus |
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| 09:13.49 | xaiki_ | hey guys, I pulled HEAD about a week ago and have 1380 |
| 09:14.07 | xaiki_ | the fix proposed in the bug repport does work, has someone forgotten to commit ? |
| 09:14.15 | XorA | xaiki_: I think your talking to the wrong project |
| 09:14.26 | XorA | xaiki_: mtn heads arent neat numbers like 1380 |
| 09:15.12 | xaiki_ | XorA: I'm talking about the bug repport. |
| 09:15.18 | xaiki_ | BR # 1380 |
| 09:16.28 | XorA | xaiki_: you made sure to do mtn pull; mtn update? |
| 09:17.08 | xaiki_ | haha I might have forgotten to pull, but anyway, my first pull was only last week. |
| 09:17.17 | xaiki_ | and the bug is like 6months old =) |
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| 09:24.50 | djay-il | cool, I'm back from vacation, and OpenMoko is available! |
| 09:24.59 | XorA | xaiki_: I get feeling the fix wasnt what it says in bug report |
| 09:26.25 | xaiki_ | XorA: yeah, it looks more like a b0rk3d toolchain to me... |
| 09:26.38 | woglinde | djay-il hehe |
| 09:26.39 | XorA | xaiki_: uclibc works for loads of people |
| 09:27.25 | xaiki_ | XorA: I don't doubt it, but still, I pulled the mtn tree like described in the wiki, and launched a compilation changing only minimal things and it fails... |
| 09:27.47 | woglinde | xaiki whtas the problem? |
| 09:28.10 | xaiki_ | woglinde: exactly the same failure as #1380 |
| 09:29.25 | woglinde | xaiki your uclibc is at 0.9.29? |
| 09:29.55 | woglinde | you did mtn pull and mtn update? |
| 09:30.10 | xaiki_ | woglinde: I'm doing that now, but I cloned the MTN tree about a week ago. |
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| 09:30.56 | xaiki_ | woglinde: I was building 0.9.28 |
| 09:31.46 | woglinde | why? |
| 09:31.58 | xaiki_ | it's what it chose automagically |
| 09:32.02 | woglinde | 0.9.28 is borked in many ways |
| 09:32.08 | woglinde | 0.9.29 ypu should use |
| 09:32.22 | XorA | woglinde: mayb should move 0.9.28 to non-working then |
| 09:32.29 | woglinde | xora yes |
| 09:32.31 | xaiki_ | ok, I'll try that. |
| 09:32.35 | xaiki_ | are you guys OE upstream ? |
| 09:32.41 | XorA | xaiki_: yes |
| 09:32.49 | xaiki_ | I have 2 trivial patches that could have their use in bitbake: |
| 09:32.50 | woglinde | xaiki for which platform do you compile? |
| 09:32.51 | xaiki_ | http://cxhome.ath.cx/~xaiki/bitbake/ |
| 09:33.09 | woglinde | hm bitbake is seperated from oe |
| 09:33.14 | xaiki_ | and I've been working on packaging BB for debian, and am thinking about wether it would have any use to be in the main archive. |
| 09:34.26 | woglinde | hm there is bb package already |
| 09:34.53 | woglinde | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/bitbake |
| 09:36.27 | xaiki_ | ok ... I missed it ... so weird ... |
| 09:36.43 | woglinde | no problem |
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| 09:52.10 | woglinde | hi wrobbie |
| 09:52.53 | woglinde | I hate bugzilla |
| 09:53.03 | woglinde | where is the button that show me all open bugs |
| 10:02.35 | hrw | nowhere |
| 10:03.02 | XorA | advanced search, OPEN, search with no keywords |
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| 10:03.53 | hrw | or simple search and just press search button |
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| 10:08.48 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 10:09.13 | woglinde | hrw noe needs keyword |
| 10:09.17 | woglinde | simple search |
| 10:09.26 | woglinde | so its a ui desgin error |
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| 10:10.04 | hrw | OE bugzilla needs love |
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| 10:24.55 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.51 | henryk | hi all |
| 10:34.43 | woglinde | henryk I overlook this yesterday in the phoneme forum |
| 10:34.48 | woglinde | http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=21591&tstart=0 |
| 10:35.05 | henryk | woglinde: i have it running now |
| 10:35.23 | henryk | i hacked tslib support in yesterday and everything works just fine |
| 10:35.40 | henryk | i have opera mini on the full 480x640 running, for example :) |
| 10:36.15 | woglinde | uh nice |
| 10:36.39 | woglinde | can you provide the patches |
| 10:36.45 | hrw | henryk: can you chek one app for me? |
| 10:36.50 | henryk | hrw: sure |
| 10:36.53 | woglinde | I would like to test it on the simpad |
| 10:37.06 | henryk | only limitation: there is no keyboard on the phone ... |
| 10:37.08 | hrw | woglinde: opera miini on 800x600? |
| 10:37.21 | woglinde | hrw no phoneme with touchscreen |
| 10:38.22 | hrw | henryk: http://download.pasjagsm.pl/files/ginger-3-2-3-poznan-1441.zip |
| 10:40.31 | henryk | hrw: runs, and apparently pops up a number input field. and a menu with a funny foreign language |
| 10:40.57 | woglinde | henryk polski |
| 10:41.15 | XorA | psokolovsky: feel free to dissaprove my commit, Ive put my point in an email, but its not that important a point for me |
| 10:41.33 | hrw | henryk: enter 5, select any line and it will list bus/tram times on bus/tram stop |
| 10:41.42 | hrw | XorA: I have fix for it |
| 10:41.57 | psokolovsky | XorA: ok, thanks |
| 10:42.10 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r84e965db... 10/ (1 conf/machine/fic-gta01.conf): fic-gta01.conf: Update included modules and enable padding of jffs2 images. |
| 10:42.12 | henryk | hrw: no keyboard :( |
| 10:42.20 | hrw | henryk: argh.. |
| 10:42.25 | henryk | hmm, or I could try bluetooth hid ... hmm. |
| 10:42.30 | hrw | henryk: but god to know that it works. |
| 10:45.58 | henryk | hmm. kernel "Alignment trap:" is that a fatal error or just a warning? |
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| 10:46.17 | woglinde | hm |
| 10:46.27 | woglinde | if the program works you can ignore it |
| 10:47.08 | XorA | henryk: but it would be nice to fix it as they are total performance killers |
| 10:47.22 | woglinde | http://netwinder.osuosl.org/users/b/brianbr/public_html/alignment.html |
| 10:47.38 | woglinde | xora yes right |
| 10:48.31 | XorA | took me 1/2 an hour once to boot into X when freetype was generating them :-) |
| 10:48.33 | henryk | ok, thanks |
| 10:48.46 | woglinde | xora ouch |
| 10:49.00 | XorA | woglinde: it did convince me to fix freetype .bb :-) |
| 10:49.23 | woglinde | henryk you can try out the programm pahole |
| 10:49.31 | woglinde | maybee it helps you find the spot |
| 10:49.37 | woglinde | xora what was the fix? |
| 10:51.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2633 has been created by <Sokolovsky> |
| 10:51.06 | cdbot2 | * * autoconf-2.61 in OE doesn't handle OE site properly |
| 10:51.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2633 |
| 10:51.32 | XorA | woglinde: upgrade to a recent version of freetype + fix some X stuff that didnt like new freetype |
| 10:51.41 | hrw | psokolovsky: autoconf 2.61 in oe is not used |
| 10:51.55 | psokolovsky | hrw: and in world, it is |
| 10:52.03 | psokolovsky | so, welcome to real world |
| 10:52.14 | RP | Its good to fix it up anyway... |
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| 10:52.25 | RP | Someday we might change... |
| 10:52.39 | hrw | someday |
| 10:52.40 | XorA | somedoay we need to change |
| 10:52.43 | woglinde | xora oh I meant patched file ;) |
| 10:52.50 | psokolovsky | wait for next bug. they have changed already |
| 10:53.00 | XorA | as the longer we leave it, the more our metadata deteriorates |
| 10:53.12 | henryk | haha, great. I can now use a Sony Ericsson W800i as a Bluetooth HID 'keyboard' for the Neo1973 |
| 10:53.12 | hrw | when I added autoconf 2.61 too much soft did not built |
| 10:53.38 | XorA | woglinde: this was years ago |
| 10:53.42 | woglinde | henryk nice |
| 10:54.06 | RP | XorA: We do need to change, I agree, its just going to cause pain :/ |
| 10:54.24 | XorA | RP: I did start once, but life got in the way |
| 10:54.43 | woglinde | xora hm okay |
| 10:56.44 | RP | XorA: I know the feeling |
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| 10:57.36 | CIA-3 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r59a848ba... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-gpephone.bb): task-gpephone: Add some tools to debug section. |
| 10:58.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2634 has been created by <Sokolovsky> |
| 10:58.07 | cdbot2 | * * Newer software requires autconf 2.61 (e.g. parted 1.8.7) |
| 10:58.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2634 |
| 10:58.26 | psokolovsky | hrw: ^ |
| 10:59.03 | psokolovsky | I'm going to DEF_PREF it -1 now, but who can be sure which version will build well now? |
| 10:59.07 | RP | hrw: Sometime when one of us has a free moment, we should see how much of poky breaks with the new autoconf... |
| 10:59.35 | RP | Poky will certainly be easier than OE :/ |
| 11:00.02 | woglinde | hi rp |
| 11:00.06 | woglinde | btw. |
| 11:00.16 | RP | hi woglinde |
| 11:00.42 | hrw | RP: one day |
| 11:01.06 | RP | hrw: Maybe after the next poky release |
| 11:02.50 | woglinde | henryk stephwm starte moko javca side maybe you can add some points too |
| 11:03.08 | henryk | woglinde: pardon? |
| 11:03.37 | woglinde | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java |
| 11:04.08 | henryk | woglinde: sure |
| 11:04.37 | woglinde | java is really chaos |
| 11:04.49 | woglinde | to many people did their on thing |
| 11:04.51 | woglinde | *g* |
| 11:05.17 | henryk | hrw: ok, now I have at least a numeric keyboard |
| 11:09.39 | psokolovsky | btw, fresh thought: gnu crowd really should drop autoconf together with GPL3 coming into force. somebody should have set such an ultimatum for them ;-E |
| 11:10.14 | woglinde | psokolovsky what to use instead? |
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| 11:11.12 | psokolovsky | woglinde: cmakes, scons'es, and lot of other stuff to choose from. |
| 11:12.52 | woglinde | oh no |
| 11:13.01 | woglinde | they all have problems with cross compiling |
| 11:13.21 | XorA | psokolovsky: whats up with automake and GPL3? |
| 11:13.29 | woglinde | xora nothing |
| 11:13.39 | psokolovsky | XorA: see above ;-) |
| 11:13.44 | woglinde | psokolovsky ranted only a bit |
| 11:13.53 | henryk | hrw: http://www.ploetzli.ch/forumtst/DSC00960.JPG |
| 11:14.22 | hrw | henryk: great! |
| 11:15.06 | woglinde | henryk today I will start put phoneme in oe |
| 11:15.34 | XorA | psokolovsky: you do know there is a workaround for autoconf 2.61 requiring stuff? |
| 11:16.13 | psokolovsky | XorA: I bet there's. I could start with killing that 2.61 req. but why? |
| 11:16.31 | henryk | woglinde: and yes, I know now that cross-compiling without autconf is a PITA. PhoneME apparently is comprised of several distinct project with different Makefile styles and to get it to compile I think I have used four or five different ways to tell it where the cross-compiler lives. |
| 11:16.37 | hrw | henryk: looks ok, will have to bump font sizes and add Polish chars |
| 11:16.38 | XorA | do_configure() { |
| 11:16.39 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.39 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.39 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.39 | XorA | } |
| 11:16.51 | woglinde | henryk I know |
| 11:16.54 | CIA-3 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r82e025b5... 10/ (1 packages/parted/parted_1.8.7.bb): |
| 11:16.54 | CIA-3 | parted 1.8.7: Set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1", requires autoconf 2.61 to be built properly. |
| 11:16.54 | CIA-3 | * Requires autoconf 2.61. Without it, will build, but there |
| 11:16.54 | CIA-3 | will be link errors when some other package will link against |
| 11:16.54 | CIA-3 | libparted. This is actually due to fact that autoconf 2.61 doesn't want to |
| 11:16.56 | CIA-3 | source OE site files. See #2633, $2634. |
| 11:16.59 | woglinde | I build it serval times |
| 11:17.04 | psokolovsky | parted requires 2.61 since 1.8.3. and 1.8.2 doesn't build because it's incompatible with contemporary linux headers. LOL! |
| 11:17.11 | woglinde | I pachted the makefiles to yues qte-mt |
| 11:17.15 | woglinde | use |
| 11:17.28 | hrw | psokolovsky: tried sed -e /2.61/2.59/ configure.ac? |
| 11:17.39 | psokolovsky | nope |
| 11:17.43 | hrw | then try |
| 11:17.52 | hrw | many times it works |
| 11:18.16 | psokolovsky | I'd prefer there was way to just build that sw, there must be more and more everyday |
| 11:18.24 | woglinde | now lunch |
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| 11:18.46 | XorA | psokolovsky: see the do_configure I posted, that should meet the requirement of just build |
| 11:19.34 | XorA | hmmm, maybe we should needs-new-autoconf.bbclass with that hack |
| 11:19.55 | psokolovsky | XorA: you don't want to believe that autoconf of lower version won't touch aclocal.m4, etc of forced newer version? |
| 11:20.20 | XorA | psokolovsky: works in other stuff that demands 2.61 |
| 11:20.35 | psokolovsky | XorA: just one q - are you sure gnu-configize should go before libtoolize? |
| 11:20.47 | XorA | psokolovsky: no idea, I didnt write the workaround |
| 11:21.13 | XorA | psokolovsky: I am puzzled by your you don't want to believe comment |
| 11:21.22 | psokolovsky | XorA: that's what parted 1.8.7 already has. it builds, but it's broken. and those commands just skip it apparently |
| 11:21.48 | psokolovsky | XorA: what do you think I was doing this night? ;-) |
| 11:22.05 | XorA | psokolovsky: if you override do_configure you dont call autoconf |
| 11:23.16 | hrw | psokolovsky: you built m4 1.4.8 for tests of autoconf 2.61? |
| 11:23.17 | psokolovsky | XorA: well, if you have time, just try and see what happens there please. I'm going to try s/2.61/2.59/ |
| 11:23.27 | psokolovsky | hrw: nope |
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| 11:27.14 | psokolovsky | XorA: "aclocal.m4:17: error: this file was generated for autoconf 2.61. |
| 11:27.14 | psokolovsky | You have another version of autoconf. If you want to use that, |
| 11:27.14 | psokolovsky | you should regenerate the build system entirely. |
| 11:27.14 | psokolovsky | " |
| 11:27.38 | polyonymous | what about autoreconf ? |
| 11:27.44 | psokolovsky | so there're no wonders at that snippet doesn't really work |
| 11:28.07 | psokolovsky | polyonymous: read again: autocrap 2.61 is *required* |
| 11:28.24 | psokolovsky | and autocrap 2.61 doesn't source site files, actually that's where problem is |
| 11:28.53 | polyonymous | Hmm... "you have another version... if you want to use that, you should regenerate" ? |
| 11:29.24 | XorA | NOTE: package parted-1.8.7-r1: task do_compile: started |
| 11:30.05 | XorA | NOTE: package parted-1.8.7: completed |
| 11:30.08 | psokolovsky | XorA: read again: it build well. just libparted contains refs to non-existent symbols. |
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| 11:30.28 | polyonymous | what symbols? |
| 11:32.03 | psokolovsky | polyonymous: it references rpl_malloc and stuff. and of course they don't really use all that autoconf as it was designed too, so there's no rpl_malloc |
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| 11:33.42 | polyonymous | is this crap in the tree now? |
| 11:34.44 | psokolovsky | polyonymous: parted 1.8.7 in tree |
| 11:35.04 | polyonymous | and autoconf too? |
| 11:35.40 | psokolovsky | polyonymous: yes, but def_pref -1 |
| 11:36.09 | polyonymous | ok, then I'd rather see for myself - better than any explanations :) |
| 11:38.10 | XorA | so to narrow this down, parted itself compiles and works, its just libparted that has problems? |
| 11:40.48 | XorA | because parted compiles and works here |
| 11:42.37 | woglinde | henryk how do you run phoneme with qte on the X server of the moko? |
| 11:45.27 | henryk | woglinde: i stop the x server and run it directly on the framebuffer |
| 11:45.48 | woglinde | henryk ah okay |
| 11:46.00 | psokolovsky | XorA: yes, exactly, linking another package (I hack on gparted) against libparted leads to unresolved symbols |
| 11:46.27 | psokolovsky | and no, s/2.61/2.59/ doesn't help much |
| 11:48.52 | woglinde | he stefan |
| 11:49.01 | stefan|rmll | hi woglinde |
| 11:49.12 | woglinde | you are now where? |
| 11:49.17 | woglinde | in scottland? |
| 11:49.44 | stefan|rmll | woglinde: Amiens, RMLL http://www.rmll.info/?lang=en |
| 11:49.52 | stefan|rmll | woglinde: .fr |
| 11:50.02 | stefan|rmll | woglinde: England is next week. ;) |
| 11:50.25 | woglinde | oh okay |
| 11:50.30 | stefan|rmll | I just got the wifi enterprise setup ready to have real internet and not only http |
| 11:51.06 | woglinde | hihi |
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| 11:51.24 | stefan|rmll | Giving a Open{EZX,Moko} talk in two hours |
| 11:51.33 | woglinde | ;) |
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| 11:55.34 | XorA | psokolovsky: I think I can fix your problems with a one line patch to configure file |
| 11:56.04 | psokolovsky | XorA: heh, cool, what is it? |
| 11:56.27 | XorA | psokolovsky: line 12559 change no to yes |
| 11:56.35 | XorA | else |
| 11:56.35 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.35 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.35 | XorA | else |
| 11:56.57 | psokolovsky | XorA: LOL! You won the prize for today ;-) |
| 11:57.41 | XorA | checking for GNU libc compatible malloc... yes |
| 11:57.42 | psokolovsky | XorA: but the problem is actually that 2.61 doesn't source site files, you noticed? ;-) |
| 11:58.14 | XorA | psokolovsky: 2.61 is busted, but with one line patch we can use what we have with the recipe you posted I think |
| 11:58.26 | hrw | it will take some time but I will check that problem too |
| 11:58.49 | XorA | psokolovsky: but we arent actually calling autoconf 2.61 because we overrode do_configure |
| 11:58.51 | psokolovsky | XorA: no, sorry, that doesn't really qualify as a dirty hack, imho |
| 11:59.11 | xaiki_ | woglinde: ok, I've pulled and updated, but it still selects uclibc 0.9.28, any hint on how to trace why it's this version that gets selected ? |
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| 11:59.33 | psokolovsky | XorA: we haev infra for such one-line patches top be reused to 0 lines, and it worked great. so, need to fix infra for 2.61, not sth else. |
| 12:01.20 | woglinde | xaiki for what machine do you compile? |
| 12:01.30 | woglinde | xaiki and which image? |
| 12:01.59 | xaiki_ | woglinde: nano for x86 |
| 12:02.05 | xaiki_ | (i486) |
| 12:02.32 | XorA | psokolovsky: I personally have no time to fixup all the 2.61 problems, so we are probably reliant on OH doing the job and kindly donating it back |
| 12:02.38 | hrw | ;) |
| 12:02.59 | XorA | as least grepping for autoconf 2.61 hacks is easy :-) |
| 12:03.33 | psokolovsky | XorA: ok, np, I just wanted to submit those bugs to dump what I have found. Thanks for looking at that, it's much appreciated! |
| 12:03.53 | XorA | psokolovsky: no probs, dodgy autoconf code is becoming a speciality |
| 12:04.07 | woglinde | xaiki can you provide your local.conf at pastebin? |
| 12:04.32 | hrw | XorA: but how to convince mallum to pay for it? |
| 12:04.45 | XorA | hrw: we buy him beers at guadec |
| 12:04.53 | XorA | hrw: or find out what Scotch he likes to drink |
| 12:05.41 | hrw | ;D |
| 12:15.42 | psokolovsky | hrw: just for fun (?!) I tried to make parted congizabel with 2.59: http://pastebin.ca/612429 . too much a bit, right? ;-) |
| 12:17.53 | jan_js | morning |
| 12:18.01 | hrw | psokolovsky: packages/gnutls/*/onlyonce.m4 ;) |
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| 12:18.23 | jan_js | is it possible to build angstrom-x11-image at the moment for h3900 ? |
| 12:18.37 | hrw | jan_js: should be |
| 12:19.30 | jan_js | hmm... my build repeatedly fails at angstrom-version.bb |
| 12:19.39 | psokolovsky | hrw: such hacks will break again and again, as you know. maybe we should consider using multiple concurrent autconf versions if new indeed break too much. |
| 12:21.05 | hrw | psokolovsky: onlyonce.m4 is not a hack. it is solution for 2.59 autoconf |
| 12:22.24 | psokolovsky | hrw: solution? you must be kidding. how that can be a solution if it requires 2.60 or 2.61 actually? |
| 12:26.19 | hrw | psokolovsky: gnutls 1.6.3 req autoconf 2.60 - onceonly.m4 is set of macros for autoconf 2.54+ (2.57 recommended) and is distributed by default with autoconf 2.60+ |
| 12:27.29 | psokolovsky | ah, so nice of gnu eggheads... |
| 12:28.14 | polyonymous | psokolovsky, I think multiple autoconfs is a good idea. |
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| 12:29.06 | woglinde | hi mr_nice |
| 12:29.13 | psokolovsky | polyonymous: apparently yep, afaik, that's how "big distros" deal with such issues |
| 12:29.42 | polyonymous | yes and I'd think for a reason. |
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| 12:32.13 | hrw | debian has autoconf 2.13 and 2.61 |
| 12:32.15 | mr_nice | hi woglinde |
| 12:32.36 | hrw | mr_nice: do you plan to push some of simpad/collie patches upstream? |
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| 12:32.46 | hrw | mr_nice: pcmcia_suspend one for example looks nice |
| 12:33.02 | woglinde | hrw you know the problem in person of rmk |
| 12:33.42 | mr_nice | hrw: mrdata and I are discussing about push them upstream. the plan is to clean the code and try easy patches first. |
| 12:33.42 | hrw | woglinde: sure, but if we do not send patches at all we will one day have 50M of kernel + 60M of patches |
| 12:33.43 | polyonymous | hmm.. yes, in gentoo 2.59 and 2.61 belong to the same slot, so I think it's possible to make use of autoconf 2.61 instead of 2.5* |
| 12:34.29 | woglinde | what did the changelog says about 2.59->2.60->2.61 |
| 12:35.00 | mr_nice | hrw: we also must ask thesing |
| 12:35.16 | mr_nice | hrw: but I also would like to have the stuff upstream :) |
| 12:36.57 | hrw | will have to think about buying it one day |
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| 12:42.49 | rwhitby | who is the gcc-csl-arm expert? |
| 12:43.54 | hrw | probably no one now |
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| 12:45.44 | mr_nice | how much ram is recommended for abiword? |
| 12:46.33 | rwhitby | hrw: I checked in a patch for 3.4.4-csl-2005q3 - it allowed it to compile BE for me. I guess I can't break anything if no-one is using it :-) |
| 12:46.39 | hrw | mr_nice: I started it on 64M device |
| 12:47.21 | hrw | rwhitby: we decided to forget it existance when apps built with it started to break (were working when built with vanilla 3.4.4) |
| 12:48.04 | rwhitby | fair enough - I'm only using it to temporarily build this freecom kernel until i can get sata-via to work on 2.6.22 |
| 12:48.44 | xaiki_ | woglinde: http://pastebin.com/m24f12826 |
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| 12:55.57 | psokolovsky | XorA: FYI: "libparted.so: undefined reference to `rpl_memcmp'". that's all about oneliners - they are 1 lines, but you need dozens of them ;-) |
| 12:58.16 | XorA | psokolovsky: I notice at the top of configure there is a site= line, I dont suppose if you feed our sitefile in that line it works? |
| 12:58.42 | XorA | psokolovsky: or a --site= argument to calling it |
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| 12:59.08 | xaiki | woglinde: DEBUG: adding /home/xaiki/Wrk/Sagem/OpenEmbedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/uclibc/uclibc_0.9.28.bb to satisfy virtual/i486-linux-uclibc-libc-for-gcc |
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| 12:59.39 | psokolovsky | XorA: well, the big issue is what's up with 2.61 that it doesn't want to interpret $CONFIG_SITE ... Did we patch anything regarding that in 2.59? |
| 13:00.16 | XorA | psokolovsky: plase seperate 2.61 autoconf work from problems building parted, your starting to confuse me again :-) |
| 13:00.39 | florian | re |
| 13:00.48 | woglinde | jo florian |
| 13:01.50 | psokolovsky | XorA: well, I can build parted the way I need, forget about that. ;-) but leveraging 2.61 is what we at all should do, and apparently better earlier than later, as we already have bunch of hacks regarding it, it seems... |
| 13:02.07 | XorA | psokolovsky: yeah, 2.61 is the way to go |
| 13:03.22 | woglinde | xaiki and it still build uclibc-0.9.28? |
| 13:03.31 | xaiki | woglinde: yes =( |
| 13:03.36 | xaiki | I removed my build/tmp dir |
| 13:04.03 | xaiki | woglinde: it does parse the 0.9.29 .bb file. |
| 13:04.12 | xaiki | but I dunno why it still chooses 0.9.28 |
| 13:04.15 | woglinde | xaiki okay please look at conf/distro/generic-uclibc.conf |
| 13:04.23 | woglinde | whats defined |
| 13:04.43 | woglinde | than type bitbake yourimagename -e and search for uclibc |
| 13:04.47 | xaiki | woglinde: 0.9.28 has: DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "1" |
| 13:04.57 | xaiki | when .29 has no DEFAULT_PREFERENCE set |
| 13:05.03 | woglinde | xaiki yes but you ovveride it |
| 13:05.07 | woglinde | hm |
| 13:05.17 | woglinde | 0.9.28 should be changed |
| 13:05.34 | woglinde | if no ones mind I will do it later this day |
| 13:05.42 | xaiki | ok, I'll try doing it locally and'll tell you. |
| 13:06.06 | woglinde | xaiki quick and diryt workaround set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "1" |
| 13:06.13 | woglinde | in uclibc-0.9.28 to -1 |
| 13:07.19 | xaiki | woglinde: so .28 shouldn't have DEFAULT_PREFERENCE ? should .29 have it ? |
| 13:07.27 | xaiki | (not really into quick and dirty =)) |
| 13:07.42 | woglinde | do either the -1 or edit both |
| 13:08.45 | xaiki | 'tsbuilding |
| 13:09.06 | xaiki | woglinde: have you viewed my bb patches ? do you think I should submit them on the ML ? |
| 13:09.29 | xaiki | the pathes one is usefull to have a local conf, but it's not really elegant, the other one seems like a real bug. |
| 13:09.36 | woglinde | xaiki you can asked zecke if they are okay |
| 13:09.37 | xaiki | (and there might be others from the same kind) |
| 13:09.51 | woglinde | for the debian patch I think it will not go in |
| 13:10.18 | woglinde | damnit why I awalys put today the past form on verbs |
| 13:10.37 | XorA | psokolovsky: configure in parted ignores CONFIG_SITE which is passed by siteinfo.bbclass |
| 13:11.49 | xaiki | woglinde: debian patch ? packaging you mean, yeah I rekon the current packages are good enough |
| 13:11.58 | xaiki | even tho I'm not a fan of python-support |
| 13:12.26 | psokolovsky | XorA: yes, and if I regenerate it with 2.61, it still ignores. and if I apply that hacky patch to downgrade it to 2.59, it does. |
| 13:12.38 | psokolovsky | XorA: that's why I say that problem is in autoconf 2.61 |
| 13:16.26 | XorA | psokolovsky: you are right general.m4 in autoconf 2.61 looks broken to me |
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| 13:17.58 | XorA | psokolovsky: replace in tmp/staging/share/autoconf/general.m4 AC_SITE_LOAD with this# AC_SITE_LOAD |
| 13:17.58 | XorA | # ------------ |
| 13:17.58 | XorA | # Look for site or system specific initialization scripts. |
| 13:17.58 | XorA | m4_define([AC_SITE_LOAD], |
| 13:17.58 | XorA | [# Prefer explicitly selected file to automatically selected ones. |
| 13:17.59 | XorA | if test -z "$CONFIG_SITE"; then |
| 13:18.01 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.03 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.07 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.09 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.11 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.13 | XorA | fi |
| 13:18.15 | XorA | for ac_site_file in $CONFIG_SITE; do |
| 13:18.17 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.19 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.21 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.23 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.23 | woglinde | uh |
| 13:18.25 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.26 | woglinde | flush |
| 13:18.27 | XorA | done |
| 13:18.29 | XorA | ]) |
| 13:18.35 | polyonymous | XorA, flooder! :) |
| 13:18.41 | XorA | sorry, it looked smaller before I copied it |
| 13:18.51 | polyonymous | It might have grown on the way. |
| 13:18.55 | psokolovsky | ;-) |
| 13:19.08 | psokolovsky | XorA: ok, hope to try in few |
| 13:19.20 | XorA | psokolovsky: and I dont think that is a thing we patch |
| 13:19.45 | XorA | psokolovsky: unless I didnt look in right patch |
| 13:22.47 | psokolovsky | XorA: "for ac_site_file" - so, does 2.61 expects site's on command line ?? |
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| 13:24.44 | polyonymous | psokolovsky, I think theoretically all the env vars you pass to autoconf are better to be passed via the command line. |
| 13:24.47 | XorA | psokolovsky: maybe, but it looks just broken to me |
| 13:24.52 | polyonymous | psokolovsky, this way makefiles can rerun autoconf preserving environment. |
| 13:25.48 | XorA | psokolovsky: I cant see where it sets for ac_site_file but I didnt do a deep search |
| 13:25.50 | psokolovsky | polyonymous: well, that's not too grave issue, as bitbake runs all stuff with predefined env |
| 13:26.26 | polyonymous | psokolovsky, right, but you see - they seem to rely on this behaviour now and the other way is somewhat deprecated for quite a while, I think. |
| 13:26.47 | polyonymous | psokolovsky, if that actually fixes the problem I'd suggest that we do pass it in command line (we don't have to remove it from env, of course) |
| 13:27.26 | polyonymous | I'm leaving soon so I don't even look at any part of the code atm... |
| 13:28.09 | psokolovsky | polyonymous: autoconf --help |
| 13:28.27 | CIA-3 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r30fd0291... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gcc-csl-arm-2005q3: Added patch to support big-endian builds of 3.4.4 |
| 13:28.37 | CIA-3 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r7955ac42... 10/ (1 packages/linux/fsg3-kernel_2.6.18.bb): fsg3-kernel: Update to latest svn defconfig |
| 13:28.53 | polyonymous | psokolovsky, and? |
| 13:29.19 | psokolovsky | polyonymous: see site files on command line in usage |
| 13:29.35 | polyonymous | in autoconf?? |
| 13:29.36 | psokolovsky | so maybe 2.61 has that code in shell func? |
| 13:29.50 | psokolovsky | ah damn, ok |
| 13:30.26 | polyonymous | To assign environment variables (e.g., CC, CFLAGS...), specify them as |
| 13:30.26 | polyonymous | VAR=VALUE. See below for descriptions of some of the useful variables. |
| 13:30.33 | polyonymous | that's a configure --help output |
| 13:31.14 | psokolovsky | yep, so no explicit sign either |
| 13:31.19 | woglinde | bye |
| 13:31.38 | polyonymous | well, it explicitly points at the right way to pass env vars. |
| 13:31.53 | polyonymous | once again, I don't t know if it's our problem :) |
| 13:32.32 | polyonymous | btw, we can also place site file into staging which will source in the appropriate sitefiles |
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| 14:16.46 | sirfred | Good afternoon |
| 14:17.01 | XorA | hrw: fixed a autoconf 2.61 bug with site files, you might want to retest image making |
| 14:17.52 | XorA | sirfred: I have you libqte file |
| 14:17.59 | sirfred | XorA: great! |
| 14:18.06 | XorA | sirfred: where shall I put it |
| 14:18.17 | sirfred | XorA: Could you just mail it to me? |
| 14:18.25 | XorA | sirfred: no probs, address |
| 14:18.27 | sirfred | XorA: How bit is it, compressed? |
| 14:18.35 | sirfred | manuel.teira at telefonica.net |
| 14:18.42 | sirfred | s/bit/big/ |
| 14:19.39 | djay-il | hm |
| 14:20.09 | XorA | djay-il: did you want to? |
| 14:20.26 | XorA | sirfred: gzipping now |
| 14:20.43 | djay-il | XorA: my best day with this employer :-) |
| 14:20.55 | XorA | djay-il: YAY then |
| 14:20.57 | sirfred | djay-il: Congrats, then |
| 14:21.27 | djay-il | I get 1 month pay and don't have to come here, in addition I get another payment because they fired me... |
| 14:21.44 | djay-il | thanks :-) |
| 14:21.51 | rob_w|mib | which package holds the real killall , please ? |
| 14:23.34 | sirfred | Wow, I've just opened the browser to look for something, and I've forgot what it was. |
| 14:23.41 | sirfred | Terrible |
| 14:23.42 | XorA | sirfred: 1.6M Jul 10 15:20 libqte.so.2.3.2.gz |
| 14:23.56 | sirfred | XorA: ok. |
| 14:25.10 | XorA | sirfred: on its way |
| 14:25.19 | XorA | ~fish Zero_Chaos |
| 14:25.21 | ibot | ACTION slaps Zero_Chaos around with a large trout |
| 14:25.38 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: double head, your fault by 23 seconds |
| 14:25.51 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: already fixed |
| 14:25.58 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: no no, my fault, slapin_'s fault by 2 min |
| 14:26.01 | sirfred | XorA: Thanks a lot. I will take a look to see what's inside |
| 14:26.07 | Zero_Chaos | thanks |
| 14:26.21 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: you can fix them yourself, just mtn merge |
| 14:26.52 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: I can fix a lot of things for me, I can't fix it for others. |
| 14:27.02 | slapin | Zero_Chaos, what? |
| 14:27.12 | rob_w|mib | psmisc , thanks ;-) |
| 14:27.15 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: my script tells me when I do it |
| 14:27.20 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: so I fix immediately |
| 14:27.27 | Zero_Chaos | slapin: you caused a double head in the monotone repo |
| 14:27.31 | Zero_Chaos | and it's not fixed... |
| 14:28.01 | slapin | Zero_Chaos, I changed only 4 mine palm files and added one, how come? |
| 14:28.24 | Zero_Chaos | slapin: because you didn't update before you pushed I'm sure. |
| 14:28.32 | Zero_Chaos | but anyway, merge it ;-) |
| 14:32.26 | slapin | Zero_Chaos, done |
| 14:32.36 | Zero_Chaos | slapin: thanks mate |
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| 14:33.24 | hrw | slapin: for future: "mtn pull&&mtn merge&&mtn update&&mtn push" if you have to push something |
| 14:33.31 | hrw | XorA: pushed? |
| 14:33.40 | XorA | hrw: yes |
| 14:34.27 | rwhitby | night all |
| 14:34.44 | XorA | hrw: bug meant none of our site files were acutally used in autoconf |
| 14:34.54 | XorA | hrw: so all our nicely chosen values were ignored |
| 14:34.59 | slapin | hrw, thanks! |
| 14:35.30 | hrw | slapin: and first 3 parts if want to pull&update |
| 14:36.56 | hrw | XorA: forgot to bump PR |
| 14:37.02 | hrw | ~lart you XorA |
| 14:37.02 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, you XorA!" and lops off you XorA's head |
| 14:37.03 | CIA-3 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r61fe56a7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:37.03 | CIA-3 | autoconf_2.61.bb : fix a "bug" in autoconf where it treated CONFIG_SITE |
| 14:37.03 | CIA-3 | as a single filename instead of splitting it into individual filenames. |
| 14:37.03 | CIA-3 | This stopped autoconf 2.61 loading the site files. |
| 14:37.11 | CIA-3 | 03slapin 07org.oe.dev * r25a1b52e... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Palms: unification of configs |
| 14:39.41 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r92f0750a... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): glib-2.0: fix packaging in 2.12.12 - should end discussion on OE list |
| 14:42.56 | XorA | hrw: I didnt forget, it was marked as not default and didnt work so I figured no-one would have it built :-) |
| 14:44.18 | psokolovsky | hrw: can you quickly point me to package which resurrects kernel syscall macros which were gone in latest linux-headers? |
| 14:45.29 | hrw | psokolovsky: no |
| 14:45.43 | hrw | XorA: ok |
| 14:46.49 | XorA | hrw: in hindsite I forgot you probably did have it built |
| 14:46.59 | XorA | ~lart me for being a muppet |
| 14:46.59 | ibot | throws xora's poor little doggy off a cliff for being a muppet |
| 14:47.49 | hrw | mickeyl: hi |
| 14:48.33 | mickeyl | hi |
| 14:48.49 | sirfred | XorA: Thinks like QGfxTC6393<1, 0>::blt(int, int, int, int, int, int), can be found inside. |
| 14:49.02 | hrw | XorA: rebuilt and going to parted 1.8.7 |
| 14:49.10 | sirfred | XorA: Those are good news. It seems that it has an accelerated qte driver inside. |
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| 14:59.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2635 has been created by winthrowe(AT)gmail.com |
| 14:59.07 | cdbot2 | * * No sleeve driver built on h5000 |
| 14:59.08 | hrw | NOTE: package parted-1.8.7-r1: task do_build: completed |
| 14:59.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2635 |
| 14:59.41 | hrw | XorA, psokolovsky: look at glib-2.0 fix |
| 15:00.25 | hrw | what in OE use libparted at all? |
| 15:00.26 | psokolovsky | ML's slow ;-\ |
| 15:00.34 | psokolovsky | hrw: gparted will |
| 15:01.10 | hrw | psokolovsky: will.. but do not use as it is not in OE yet |
| 15:03.18 | psokolovsky | hrw: and? |
| 15:03.43 | hrw | nothing - wanted to know to test parted 1.8.7 with soemthing |
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| 15:04.06 | hrw | 17:03 hrw@home:autoconf261$ tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/autoconf --version |
| 15:04.06 | hrw | autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.61 |
| 15:04.27 | hrw | automake 1.9.6, m4 1.4.8 |
| 15:04.45 | psokolovsky | hrw: automake must be upgraded to 1.10 too |
| 15:05.01 | hrw | psokolovsky: in debian 1.9 is default |
| 15:05.26 | psokolovsky | hrw: its majesty parted requires |
| 15:05.39 | hrw | really? then why I built it with 1.9.6? |
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| 15:06.11 | hrw | ah. do_configure stuff |
| 15:06.20 | woglinde | re |
| 15:06.52 | psokolovsky | hrw: remember: it was building before. check that it autoreconfigured properly. |
| 15:07.44 | hrw | ok. broke |
| 15:07.48 | hrw | | configure.ac:47: require Automake 1.10, but have 1.9.6 |
| 15:08.42 | psokolovsky | hrw: (unrelated) will do_unpack_append() work? ;-) |
| 15:08.52 | Zero_Chaos | psokolovsky: no |
| 15:09.02 | psokolovsky | Zero_Chaos: what will? ;-) |
| 15:09.06 | Zero_Chaos | psokolovsky: nor do_patch_prepend in my experience |
| 15:09.16 | Zero_Chaos | psokolovsky: add a task before patch after unpack ;-) |
| 15:09.20 | hrw | psokolovsky: should |
| 15:09.56 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: if it should then there is a bug because I did this dance with CoreDump last week and it doesn't. |
| 15:10.38 | RP | do_patch is a python task so it gets messy |
| 15:10.58 | RP | appending/prepending shell onto python doesn't work in general ;-) |
| 15:11.00 | hrw | psokolovsky: NOTE: package parted-1.8.7-r2: task do_configure: completed |
| 15:11.09 | hrw | psokolovsky: with automake-native 1.10 |
| 15:11.55 | psokolovsky | hrw: ok, now just check config.log that it sources site's ;-) |
| 15:12.32 | psokolovsky | hrw: |
| 15:12.33 | psokolovsky | ERROR: 0001:def do_unpack(): |
| 15:12.33 | psokolovsky | ERROR: 0002: bb.build.exec_func('base_do_unpack', d) |
| 15:12.33 | psokolovsky | ERROR: 0003: cp ${WORKDIR}/syscalls.h ${S}/libparted/arch/ |
| 15:12.41 | psokolovsky | that's why it doesn't work ;-) |
| 15:13.00 | hrw | psokolovsky: it source site files |
| 15:13.07 | psokolovsky | hrw: cool! |
| 15:13.10 | hrw | psokolovsky: that stuff is for do_configure_prepend |
| 15:13.39 | hrw | psokolovsky: unpack/patch are python. configure/compile/install/stage are shell |
| 15:14.14 | Zero_Chaos | psokolovsky: like I said, you want to add a task before patch and after unpack and put things there. or if it should be after patch you can prepend configure or something |
| 15:14.44 | hrw | psokolovsky: anyway it fails now during compile |
| 15:15.07 | psokolovsky | hrw: well, that bitabake bug, right? |
| 15:15.24 | Zero_Chaos | psokolovsky: bug, not really, just is. |
| 15:15.26 | psokolovsky | hrw: of course it does, remember that syscalls question? ;-) |
| 15:15.30 | hrw | psokolovsky: tasks? it is just is |
| 15:15.33 | psokolovsky | hrw: I'll fix it and push |
| 15:15.34 | hrw | psokolovsky: yes |
| 15:16.26 | psokolovsky | Zero_Chaos: it is bug, and needs to be fixed |
| 15:16.44 | hrw | psokolovsky: it is not a bug |
| 15:16.55 | Zero_Chaos | psokolovsky: putting shell code into python should be expected to fail. |
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| 15:17.04 | Zero_Chaos | psokolovsky: it should be documented though. |
| 15:17.06 | psokolovsky | hrw: what you mean? putthing code which is nor marked as python into python func? |
| 15:17.10 | hrw | psokolovsky: it is like writing do_configure_append() in ruby and complaing that it does not work |
| 15:17.31 | hrw | psokolovsky: you cant use shell in do_*_append/prepend to python tasks and viceversa |
| 15:17.36 | psokolovsky | hrw: python tasks/snippers are marked with "python" |
| 15:17.47 | psokolovsky | hrw: that's bug |
| 15:17.52 | hrw | psokolovsky: I pushed automake 1.10 for you |
| 15:17.57 | psokolovsky | thanks |
| 15:19.22 | hrw | np |
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| 15:32.28 | psokolovsky | hrw: so, what do you think, memcmp() is working in glibc? ;-) |
| 15:40.12 | hrw | should |
| 15:42.45 | psokolovsky | hrw: so I'll add that to common-glibc |
| 15:43.19 | rob__w | where do i get ldd ? |
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| 15:44.33 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r4ea1a0b7... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fic-gta0[0|1].conf: move recommendation of alsa-state(s) from task-openmoko to machine configuration |
| 15:45.22 | hrw | mickeyl: task-base recommends alsa-state for alsa machines |
| 15:45.54 | mickeyl | hrw: ah good. i better add alsa-states to that and remove it from the machine confs then |
| 15:46.05 | woglinde | moin mickeyl |
| 15:46.11 | mickeyl | hey woglinde |
| 15:50.54 | psokolovsky | heh, gparted at least starts ;-) |
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| 15:58.23 | mickeyl | RP: pign |
| 15:58.24 | mickeyl | ping, even |
| 15:58.31 | RP | mickeyl: pong |
| 15:58.38 | mickeyl | ah hey |
| 15:58.42 | mickeyl | RP: two questions. 1st) did you see my botmail? |
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| 15:58.56 | mickeyl | 2nd) how did your discussion with henryk_afc work out? |
| 15:58.57 | RP | mickeyl: Yes, I even replied |
| 15:59.00 | mickeyl | oh |
| 15:59.03 | mickeyl | ~botmail read |
| 15:59.27 | Zero_Chaos | make the module depend on the firmware or the firmware on the module? |
| 15:59.41 | hrw | module on firmware |
| 15:59.47 | Zero_Chaos | thanks |
| 15:59.48 | RP | mickeyl: henryk_afc posted the patch and we've dicussed it. Basically it needs work |
| 15:59.49 | mickeyl | ah, ok. I will add a bugzilla bug then w/ a testcase |
| 15:59.54 | RP | mickeyl: Its a good start though |
| 16:00.01 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: you can get module into kernel. |
| 16:00.03 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: rdep right? |
| 16:00.04 | RP | mickeyl: testcases are good :) |
| 16:00.07 | mickeyl | RP: ok, glad to hear. |
| 16:00.21 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: I was going to add the module to the kernel ;-) |
| 16:00.34 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: module RDEPENDS on firmware |
| 16:00.43 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: that's what I thought, thanks |
| 16:00.47 | RP | mickeyl: I think we agreed it needs to be split into smaller chunks and merged piece by piece. I've rearranged the svn fetcher to help make it easier to work with as a start |
| 16:01.23 | RP | mickeyl: I ran out of time for anything more and will be out of time until after GUADEC now |
| 16:01.58 | mickeyl | RP: ok. will we have time for a private chat on GUADEC? |
| 16:02.08 | RP | mickeyl: Yes, we should do |
| 16:02.15 | mickeyl | great. looking forward to that. |
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| 16:02.27 | RP | mickeyl: We'll have to make time :) |
| 16:02.29 | anttix | Hi! |
| 16:02.50 | anttix | Does anybody know why libxml2-native is configured with --without-schemas ? |
| 16:03.15 | hrw | anttix: to be smaller |
| 16:03.33 | anttix | hrw: native package :P Why? |
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| 16:03.55 | hrw | anttix: because it has same settings as target one |
| 16:04.03 | anttix | hrw: the fun thing about this is, that libxml2 itself is not configured without schemas |
| 16:04.13 | anttix | no, target has different options. |
| 16:04.20 | hrw | then no idea |
| 16:04.28 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r79a8be76... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fic-gta0[1|2].conf: task-base handle alsa-states, no need to duplicate it here |
| 16:04.30 | anttix | Yeah, it puzzles me too! |
| 16:04.50 | anttix | Who maintains this libxml cruft? |
| 16:06.05 | hrw | anttix: you can be the one |
| 16:07.11 | mickeyl | RP: nod |
| 16:07.22 | mickeyl | RP: I'll be there from Sunday to Thursday morning |
| 16:07.24 | anttix | hrw: I have no commit access to OE mtn. |
| 16:07.35 | hrw | anttix: but you have access to bugtracker |
| 16:07.48 | anttix | But i will submit new versions of libxml2 and libxslt |
| 16:08.08 | hrw | anttix: libxml in one, libxslt in second raport please |
| 16:08.11 | RP | mickeyl: I'm there Mon-Fri |
| 16:08.12 | anttix | I need them since older xsltproc has a bug in namespace handling that affects me. |
| 16:08.18 | hrw | anttix: both as 'mtn diff' please |
| 16:08.27 | anttix | ok |
| 16:08.43 | mickeyl | RP: ok, that'll work |
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| 16:09.07 | RP | Also I'm offline Wed-Fri this week FWIW |
| 16:09.27 | anttix | hrw: any other things to keep in mind when submitting new .bb files? |
| 16:09.40 | mickeyl | ok, so we will meet at the OE meeting Monday evening and then see from there |
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| 16:13.03 | RP | mickeyl: sounds good. I think we all have mobile numbers from OEDEM? |
| 16:13.19 | mickeyl | RP: yeah (if no one changed his) |
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| 16:13.49 | mickeyl | hrw, florian ? |
| 16:13.59 | mickeyl | woglinde: ? |
| 16:14.04 | woglinde | yes? |
| 16:14.12 | mickeyl | woglinde: ah, you won't be there anyway |
| 16:14.14 | mickeyl | or will you? |
| 16:14.17 | mickeyl | (GUADEC?) |
| 16:14.20 | XorA | mickeyl: do you have mine |
| 16:14.25 | woglinde | no |
| 16:14.26 | mickeyl | XorA: let me check |
| 16:14.26 | woglinde | sorryx |
| 16:14.31 | woglinde | money time family |
| 16:14.37 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 16:14.39 | mickeyl | the three thingies |
| 16:14.54 | woglinde | hm |
| 16:15.01 | mickeyl | XorA: i havent! |
| 16:15.08 | woglinde | why the hack classpath needs X |
| 16:15.11 | woglinde | let me check deps |
| 16:15.22 | RP | XorA: I haven't yours either |
| 16:15.35 | florian | mickeyl: My number changed... i'll sen an update mail. |
| 16:15.39 | woglinde | AH |
| 16:15.45 | woglinde | multiple providers |
| 16:20.50 | mickeyl | florian: ok, thanks |
| 16:21.13 | henryk | re |
| 16:21.37 | mickeyl | hi henryk, glad to hear you and RP are coming forwards |
| 16:21.55 | mickeyl | OE will soon require bb 1.8 and then we're screwed if we don't catch up ;) |
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| 16:22.09 | henryk | yep |
| 16:22.12 | mickeyl | anyway, 90% of OM has now merged into OE |
| 16:22.18 | mickeyl | the rest will come over the next days |
| 16:22.32 | woglinde | re henryk |
| 16:24.18 | henryk | RP: The other day while walking home, I had an idea, let me see if I can get it together (I should have written it down right away) ... |
| 16:26.18 | RP | mickeyl: The 1st July deadline has passed so OE does require 1.8 now... |
| 16:26.20 | henryk | RP: basically I think every recipe should provide its own functions to retrieve revision_identifier and revision_counter, though of course 99% of all packages will use a standard version, to be include in a srcrev.bbclass that is to be written. |
| 16:26.52 | mickeyl | RP: right. which means OM can't sync. with OE anymore. but it doesn't matter anyway |
| 16:27.44 | RP | mickeyl: I don't think anything in the tree is 1.8 only yes, koen just bumped the version and you only hit that if you use sanity.bbclass |
| 16:27.45 | henryk | RP: providers.py would then check whether the package currently processed contains these functions and behave accordingly. |
| 16:28.32 | mickeyl | RP: sure. it's ok. 1.8 has been around for long enough. i'm glad you all respected my 2 months request. |
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| 16:29.17 | hrw | hi |
| 16:29.24 | hrw | ewi died again |
| 16:30.23 | RP | mickeyl: I want decent svn "now" support in bitbake on a personal level and people using poky keep asking about it too |
| 16:30.30 | RP | mickeyl: We'll make it work somehow :) |
| 16:30.52 | mickeyl | yay! |
| 16:30.54 | mickeyl | thanks :) |
| 16:32.22 | henryk | though not today. I have to hold a demonstration tomorrow. (That's why I invested the weekend in PhoneME on OpenMoko) |
| 16:32.54 | RP | henryk: Realistically, I won't get to this until after GUADEC now |
| 16:33.35 | henryk | RP: ok |
| 16:33.45 | woglinde | hm is there an example how to compile a package with two source-archs? |
| 16:34.13 | hrw | woglinde: for target with host binaries used during build? |
| 16:34.22 | RP | henryk: If you did find time to split the patch up a bit and work in stages or address any of the issues we discussed before then, that would be good |
| 16:34.31 | woglinde | hrw not quiet |
| 16:34.45 | woglinde | hrw some java sourceses which dont bee needed installed |
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| 16:35.00 | woglinde | either in staging nor on devoce |
| 16:35.07 | woglinde | hi mrdata |
| 16:35.09 | mrdata | hi |
| 16:35.13 | mrdata | hi woglinde |
| 16:35.17 | henryk | RP: yes, I will poke around. I want to integrate it more firmly. (Up to now I have tried to be minimally intrusive and only add) |
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| 16:36.20 | RP | henryk: minimially intrustive is good in some ways. It you're not going to do that, it makes doing things in a logical patch series all the more important though |
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| 16:50.03 | woglinde | hrw I will found myself what happend if I put two sources in _SRC |
| 16:50.23 | woglinde | happens |
| 16:50.29 | woglinde | *sigh* |
| 16:50.32 | Zero_Chaos | where should I put the kernel module rdepends? linux-rp_2.6.21.bb or linux-rp.inc? |
| 16:50.57 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: which module it is? |
| 16:51.32 | Zero_Chaos | zd1211rw |
| 16:51.53 | hrw | .inc I would use |
| 16:52.00 | kergoth | ooh, someone's gonna try to port busybox to mingw32, so people can get a shell without msys. thatd be nifty |
| 16:52.25 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: or add zd1211rw-firmware into proper place in task-base even |
| 16:53.29 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: I don't think anyone wants me to add usb wifi drviers to task-base ;-) |
| 16:54.00 | hrw | ;) |
| 16:54.01 | Zero_Chaos | RP: ping |
| 16:55.25 | hrw | http://pastebin.ca/612792 - how funny output bitbake can show |
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| 16:58.10 | hrw | bye |
| 17:01.29 | psokolovsky | well, gparted even works a bit, and even barely usable on qvga ;-D |
| 17:03.48 | RP | Zero_Chaos: pong |
| 17:04.33 | Zero_Chaos | RP: i'm submitting a patch to you for your kernel, but where would you like KERNEL_MODULE_zd1211rw_rdepends? in which file? |
| 17:05.33 | RP | Zero_Chaos: Why does it need RDEPENDS? |
| 17:05.40 | Zero_Chaos | RP: firmware |
| 17:06.06 | RP | Zero_Chaos: linux-rp.inc I guess |
| 17:06.25 | Zero_Chaos | RP: thanks |
| 17:06.39 | Zero_Chaos | and it was "KERNEL_MODULE_zd1211rw_rdepends" right? |
| 17:06.52 | RP | Zero_Chaos: Probably not |
| 17:07.00 | Zero_Chaos | heh |
| 17:07.16 | RP | Zero_Chaos: RDEPENDS_kernel-module-zd.... = at a guess |
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| 17:19.39 | psokolovsky | RP: So, did you hear that (R)DEPENDS overriden with PACKAGES_DYNAMIC thing doesn't really work? |
| 17:20.01 | RP | psokolovsky: Not really |
| 17:20.46 | psokolovsky | RP: look at kernel.bbclass, grep for dtl1 - all that doesn't really work, I had to add RDEPENDS to task-base after all |
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| 17:22.00 | RP | psokolovsky: no match found? |
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| 17:22.11 | psokolovsky | RP: another issue which came out today - if a task's body originally was defined as python, if you try to append/prepend to it, it's blindly stuffed in it, not paying attentioon that now it's another language |
| 17:22.48 | RP | psokolovsky: Is that user error or bitbake's problem though? |
| 17:22.53 | psokolovsky | RP: simply didn't work - *dtl1-workaround* wasn't build (but kernel module has Depends: in control of course) |
| 17:23.48 | RP | psokolovsky: What simply didn't work? :) |
| 17:23.48 | psokolovsky | RP: it's bitbake problem. for what reason it puts shell code into python? |
| 17:23.48 | RP | psokolovsky: You mean RDEPENDS_kernel-module-something = "something" didn't set the module's RDEPENDS correctly? |
| 17:23.52 | psokolovsky | RP: what written after dash |
| 17:24.12 | RP | psokolovsky: How is bitbake supposed to know if an append/prepend is shell or python? |
| 17:24.13 | psokolovsky | RP: "*dtl1-workaround* wasn't build" |
| 17:24.34 | psokolovsky | RP: the same way it nows about not-append/prepend? |
| 17:24.41 | RP | psokolovsky: Ah, it wasn't built. Right, that is expected :-( |
| 17:25.12 | psokolovsky | AFAIK, python code is explicitly marked as such, default is shell. pretty easy to know. |
| 17:25.19 | RP | psokolovsky: You tell bitbake whether a function is shell or python. You don't do that with append/prepend, its simply not part of the syntax |
| 17:25.53 | psokolovsky | RP: so, that's bug with the cause "bad spec". it's still a bug. |
| 17:26.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2636 has been created by r.goyet(AT)gmail.com |
| 17:26.07 | cdbot2 | * * The corgi_ts driver has a small bug : it doesn' t trigger the KEY event it advertises |
| 17:26.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2636 |
| 17:26.19 | RP | psokolovsky: File a bug report then, I don't have time to think about that atm :-( |
| 17:26.23 | RP | sorry :-( |
| 17:27.15 | RP | psokolovsky: The PACKAGES_DYNAMIC problem is a really nasty one. All I can suggest is adding the module name to PACKAGES manually and teaching OE to get along with duplicate data in PACKAGES and PACKAGES_DYNAMIC |
| 17:27.32 | psokolovsky | ok ;-) this append is really not much important, just wanted to "let know" ;-) |
| 17:27.50 | RP | psokolovsky: File a bug so it doesn't get forgotten about, its a long standing problem |
| 17:27.59 | psokolovsky | RP: well, I just added it at higher level, but yes, this one is more annoying... |
| 17:28.05 | psokolovsky | RP: ok |
| 17:29.13 | RP | psokolovsky: There is no realistic way bitbake can inspect PACKAGES_DYNAMIC and find any RDEPENDS which might or might not match since it would would have to trawl the entire keyspace :/ |
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| 17:30.19 | RP | Zero_Chaos: You might want to pay attention to the above as I think this affects what you're trying to do as well |
| 17:30.30 | psokolovsky | RP: well, ok, but worth describing in man then (if not yet ;-) ) |
| 17:30.41 | Zero_Chaos | RP: I add "RDEPENDS_kernel-module-zd1211rw = zd1211rw-firmware" and it doesn't work, adds a DEPENDS but not RDEPENDS |
| 17:31.25 | RP | Zero_Chaos: I'm surprised it even added the DEPENDS :/ |
| 17:32.09 | Zero_Chaos | RP: well that sucks. so the only way to add dep/rdep to the kernel-module doesn't work right now? great. |
| 17:32.32 | RP | Zero_Chaos: That's life. A patch to fix the situation would be most welcome ;-) |
| 17:33.32 | Zero_Chaos | RP: yeah, I can barely use it and you want me to patch it ;-) |
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| 17:50.15 | psokolovsky | ~oemirrors |
| 17:50.16 | ibot | from memory, oemirrors is extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
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| 18:13.57 | XorA|gone | RP: hrw|gone Angstrom-image built with autoconf 2.61 |
| 18:14.04 | XorA|gone | psokolovsky: as well for you |
| 18:14.20 | woglinde | hm linxutogo server is overloaded |
| 18:16.39 | psokolovsky | XorA|gone: from scratch? |
| 18:16.54 | woglinde | damnit just now where I need it |
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| 18:18.35 | woglinde | florian please help! |
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| 18:19.51 | woglinde | :) |
| 18:19.55 | woglinde | ~hail florian |
| 18:19.56 | ibot | ACTION bows down to florian and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 18:22.08 | XorA|gone | psokolovsky: yes |
| 18:22.46 | psokolovsky | XorA|gone: cool! I guess I'll try that too, and that will add to evidence |
| 18:24.25 | florian | woglinde: massive web access and the monotone server... |
| 18:24.30 | woglinde | florian okay |
| 18:24.39 | woglinde | maybay a om attacke |
| 18:25.24 | woglinde | florian thanks |
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| 18:25.34 | XorA|gone | florian: maybe we should round robin mtn.openembeded.org |
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| 18:25.58 | florian | unluckily I have no idea how to forward to the ewi mtn server |
| 18:26.51 | florian | XorA|gone: tat doesn't help i fear... its the memory usage the server always needs. but maybe we can add one here at kc if ewi fails |
| 18:27.04 | XorA|gone | florian: I will have to check with Liam, but I think wolfson server can take the bandwidth |
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| 18:28.25 | florian | XorA|gone: that's our only problem here too, but koen mentioned a quite low bandwith usage. If someone gives me a number its quite likely that I only have to turn on a machine. |
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| 18:29.28 | XorA|gone | florian: how much memory does the mtn server burn? |
| 18:31.09 | florian | XorA|gone: ~300mb the last time I checked. |
| 18:31.23 | XorA|gone | florian: ouch |
| 18:31.28 | dcordes | oops |
| 18:32.50 | florian | XorA|gone: right, without this we can live with 1gb of memory easily. |
| 18:33.28 | XorA|gone | florian: opensource.wolfsonmicro.com has 1G in it and all it runs it apache and git-server, it might be an idea for us to share some load for a while |
| 18:33.50 | XorA|gone | florian: lrg and I are admins of that machine |
| 18:35.36 | woglinde | hm which variable is for the -prX dir instead of the real source dir of a package? |
| 18:36.06 | woglinde | hm AH PF |
| 18:36.08 | woglinde | okay |
| 18:36.10 | florian | XorA|gone: sounds good :-) |
| 18:36.22 | woglinde | I am slow today to understand |
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| 18:36.33 | XorA|gone | florian: I shall try and talk to lrg this week then, but we both be at guadec |
| 18:37.02 | florian | XorA|gone: maybe we can du round robin with this, ewi and maybe a third one here then. |
| 18:37.19 | XorA|gone | florian: round robin on ewi is hard as your not allowed to cname it |
| 18:37.41 | XorA|gone | florian: or nslu-linux.org if they are happy |
| 18:37.44 | florian | XorA|gone: ah too bad... well, I guess our machine is :-) |
| 18:39.15 | XorA|gone | florian: are you at guadec |
| 18:39.20 | XorA|gone | I assume you are |
| 18:41.14 | florian | XorA|gone: yep |
| 18:41.45 | XorA|gone | florian: then I guess at worst all admins will be there to talk about it |
| 18:44.19 | florian | XorA|gone: perfect :-) |
| 18:44.21 | florian | bbl |
| 18:47.01 | woglinde | bye florian |
| 18:47.08 | woglinde | hm too late |
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| 19:31.33 | slapin_nb | do mtn mirrors allow pushing? |
| 19:32.09 | Zero_Chaos | yes |
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| 19:35.30 | timtimred | hmm, the site working or it just me? |
| 19:36.57 | XorA|gone | timtimred: site is under mega load |
| 19:38.47 | timtimred | heh, i'll stop hammering it then... doesnt work at all here (timeout) |
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| 19:46.03 | XorA|gone | psokolovsky: just pushing m4-native 1.4.8 which is needed by some packages when using autoconf 2.61 |
| 19:46.26 | polyonymous | just about time. |
| 19:47.20 | XorA|gone | synced to a mirror so bugger knows when it will hit OE main |
| 19:47.55 | jseghers | I'm having troubles including a new package into an openmoko build. I added DEPENDS += "mypackage" to local.conf. I'm getting a circular dependency with quilt-native |
| 19:49.23 | jseghers | upwards chain is: openmoko-devel-image -> ipkg-native -> pkgconfig-native -> autoconf-native -> quilt-native -> mypackage -> ipkg-utils-native |
| 19:50.08 | jseghers | I have no dependencies specified in mypackage.bb, nor does it include or inherit anything. |
| 19:50.16 | jseghers | Any idea what's going on ? |
| 19:51.11 | XorA|gone | jseghers: you added all packages depend on your package |
| 19:51.18 | XorA|gone | jseghers: including your package |
| 19:52.05 | jseghers | How do I include it in the build? |
| 19:52.46 | jseghers | without saying everything depends on it? |
| 19:52.49 | XorA|gone | add it as an RDPENDS to openmoko-devel-image or any of the tasks that openmoko-devel-image calls |
| 19:53.38 | jseghers | I'd tried that and it just ignored it in the build. |
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| 19:54.41 | XorA|gone | add it to task-openmoko.bb in one of the tasks there |
| 19:54.45 | jseghers | I'd added it to one of the RDEPENDS_<taskname> variables already defined. |
| 19:54.48 | sirfred | cu |
| 19:54.52 | jseghers | yes, added it in there. |
| 19:55.28 | XorA|gone | jseghers: then you got it wrong, pastebin what you put |
| 19:55.32 | timtimred | that should work (tm) promise :) |
| 19:55.43 | timtimred | did you rebuild that package properly? :) |
| 19:55.44 | jseghers | OK... I'll try again... |
| 19:56.10 | jseghers | I did a completely clean build, after creating a patch to add it to the task |
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| 19:56.21 | jseghers | my package didn't get built |
| 19:56.49 | jseghers | I'd been directly building it to develop the .bb file, and then was scratching my head as to why it didn't get into the image |
| 19:57.13 | jseghers | Then did a complete rebuild and, lo and behold, it was being ignored... |
| 19:57.28 | jseghers | But I'll try again and if it doesn't work I'll post back. |
| 19:57.49 | woglinde | jseghers try bitbake myimage -g to see dependencies in depends.dot |
| 19:58.54 | jseghers | OK... just a moment... it's in the middle of a build where I'd changed local.conf to have RDEPENDS instead of DEPENDS... 99% through the 4400+ .bb files. |
| 19:59.23 | woglinde | puh finally classpath-minimal configures |
| 20:01.36 | jseghers | Changing it to RDEPENDS in local config is at least building my package (that being phoneME-Feature)... we'll see if it also makes it in to the image (crossing fingers) |
| 20:02.14 | jseghers | (this will take a while, phoneME doesn't build quickly--though a bit more quickly than all of openmoko :P ) |
| 20:02.16 | hrw|gone | XorA|gone: here it failed on alsa: | /home/hrw/devel/build/autoconf261/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.2/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: .libs/libasound.so.2.0.0: undefined versioned symbol name snd_pcm_sw_params_get_start_threshold@ALSA_0.9 |
| 20:02.21 | hrw|gone | | /home/hrw/devel/build/autoconf261/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.2/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: failed to set dynamic section sizes: Bad value |
| 20:03.07 | woglinde | bye hrw |
| 20:03.21 | XorA|gone | hrw|gone: alsa-lib built with no errors here |
| 20:03.47 | XorA|gone | hrw|gone: but that error doesnt sound very autoconfy |
| 20:05.47 | zecke | ~seen ljp |
| 20:05.50 | ibot | ljp <n=lpotter@203.94.178.46> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 9h 28m 44s ago, saying: 'jgm: I am getting the same error'. |
| 20:06.30 | slapin_nb | ~oemirrors |
| 20:06.31 | ibot | somebody said oemirrors was extra, extra, read all about it, oemirrors is OpenEmbedded monotone mirrors are ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, monotone.nslu2-linux.org, opensource.wolfsonmicro.com also see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 20:09.23 | woglinde | jseghers??? now 3 people working on phoneme.bb? |
| 20:10.10 | woglinde | fine I started with cacao |
| 20:10.14 | jseghers | I couldn't find anyone else working on it |
| 20:10.20 | woglinde | *g* |
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| 20:10.45 | woglinde | but you know you have to patch it that it works with qte-mt? |
| 20:11.19 | jseghers | I'm trying it just bsd/generic |
| 20:11.55 | jseghers | Are you working on Advanced or Feature? |
| 20:12.02 | jseghers | I specifically need Feature. |
| 20:12.47 | woglinde | jseghers are you in contact with henryk? |
| 20:12.58 | jseghers | no, I'm not |
| 20:13.12 | woglinde | he spent thewhole weekend on phoneme with feature |
| 20:13.19 | jseghers | hehe |
| 20:13.21 | woglinde | including tslib support |
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| 20:13.51 | jseghers | I posted questions on the OpenMoko Devel board several times asking if anyone was working on it :) |
| 20:14.04 | woglinde | jseghers do the following |
| 20:14.13 | woglinde | made the bb until it works |
| 20:14.18 | woglinde | provide it to me |
| 20:14.34 | woglinde | and will shape it that it fits in oe and push it |
| 20:15.14 | jseghers | OK... I've got the .bb working (at least for the ARM target, not guaranteeing any other target at the moment) |
| 20:15.20 | woglinde | I didnt ask henryk if he made a .bb too |
| 20:15.32 | jseghers | And it AGAIN didn't get into the image...just into an ipkg. |
| 20:15.36 | henryk | woglinde: i did |
| 20:15.42 | woglinde | hehe |
| 20:15.57 | henryk | i'm currently in a meeting, back in 30min or so |
| 20:15.59 | woglinde | good to have all people for looking at java around |
| 20:16.04 | jseghers | hehe :) |
| 20:16.12 | woglinde | jseghers seems you doubled the work |
| 20:16.22 | jseghers | It would seem so. |
| 20:16.23 | woglinde | *sigh* |
| 20:16.48 | woglinde | hm but why the hell you and henryk only needs feature |
| 20:16.58 | jseghers | I guess I'll wait for henry to get out of his meeting :) |
| 20:16.59 | woglinde | thats what I am puzzling about |
| 20:17.04 | woglinde | sure |
| 20:17.31 | jseghers | I need Feature because I'm writing a low-level service that need to be exported to J2ME via a private class |
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| 20:17.58 | jseghers | The product gets build onto the phone by OEMs who also need to call the low-level C interface from their UI |
| 20:18.33 | jseghers | So OpenMoko provides me with a great development environment to get as close to what an OEM might normally work within. |
| 20:19.51 | woglinde | ~lart timtimred |
| 20:19.51 | ibot | blasts timtimred to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 20:19.53 | jseghers | So focusing on CLDC/MIDP 2 provides me with something much closer to what would be on a closed phone. |
| 20:20.16 | woglinde | hm does cldc really work with midp? |
| 20:20.27 | woglinde | I only tested advance |
| 20:20.38 | jseghers | Yep, that's the basis of MIDP |
| 20:20.47 | jseghers | CDC is the basis of Advanced |
| 20:21.03 | woglinde | yeh I know |
| 20:21.12 | woglinde | but midp in phoneme is extra feature |
| 20:21.53 | jseghers | phoneme-feature is actually PCSL + CLDC + MIDP + whatever JSRs |
| 20:22.23 | jseghers | The CLDC/MIDP pairing is basically a requirement for a feature phone. |
| 20:22.35 | jseghers | feature phones only run MIDLets |
| 20:22.53 | woglinde | yeah but default cdc is build without midp |
| 20:22.58 | woglinde | thats why I am aksing |
| 20:23.26 | woglinde | hm |
| 20:23.35 | jseghers | Right... That's the main difference between feature and Advanced. MIDP is the only applet-type interface for feature phones |
| 20:23.51 | jseghers | CDC gives you other, more capable, models for applets |
| 20:23.58 | woglinde | yes |
| 20:24.02 | woglinde | xlet |
| 20:24.12 | woglinde | okay now I got it |
| 20:27.39 | jseghers | I've been working on this integration attempt for over a week now... |
| 20:27.55 | woglinde | ;) |
| 20:28.08 | jseghers | finally gave up trying to use oe_make and just directly call make |
| 20:28.11 | jseghers | witin the .bb |
| 20:28.17 | woglinde | jseghers are you wokring on phoneme too? |
| 20:28.22 | woglinde | gtk support? |
| 20:28.29 | jseghers | not gtk... |
| 20:28.37 | jseghers | planning to run qvfb |
| 20:28.51 | woglinde | okay |
| 20:29.18 | jseghers | I've manually integrated and run it on the desktop inside of OpenMoko inside of Xephyr |
| 20:29.48 | jseghers | Ran jbenchmark on it and got a score of 40,000+...but that's on the desktop, not a phone :) |
| 20:30.30 | woglinde | because there there this project is too http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/java-pkg/ |
| 20:30.58 | XorA|gone | openmoko gonna end up with so much java it'll need a 1Gig flash |
| 20:31.07 | woglinde | xora no |
| 20:31.20 | woglinde | phoneme feature with all qtlibs is 3,8 megs |
| 20:32.36 | XorA|gone | woglinde: yeah, but kaffe, sable etc etc as well :-) |
| 20:32.53 | woglinde | hrms why one would install 6 java-vms? |
| 20:32.53 | XorA|gone | woglinde: and then there is OpenJDK |
| 20:33.03 | XorA|gone | woglinde: have you been in #openmoko? |
| 20:33.10 | woglinde | xora yes |
| 20:33.18 | XorA|gone | more crazy ideas than sense |
| 20:33.18 | jseghers | xora: for phone environment, J2ME is king :) |
| 20:33.26 | woglinde | xora because they dont have a clue |
| 20:33.34 | jseghers | hear hear |
| 20:33.44 | XorA|gone | jseghers: I mainten for 5 years a Javacard VM :-) |
| 20:33.47 | woglinde | it will be phoneme or cacao-cldc with midpath |
| 20:33.50 | XorA|gone | jseghers: Im sick of java |
| 20:34.10 | woglinde | oe needs gcj-native |
| 20:34.29 | jseghers | xora: I wish it would go away... BREW is a much better environment...but it just won't die |
| 20:34.30 | zecke | woglinde: I think we have virtual/java-native? |
| 20:34.45 | woglinde | zecke I would look this |
| 20:34.54 | woglinde | but if its kaffe or sable |
| 20:34.56 | XorA|gone | woglinde: that needs some toolchain voodoo if I remeber |
| 20:35.00 | woglinde | that will not work |
| 20:35.07 | XorA|gone | woglinde: it wouldnt build so it was disabled |
| 20:35.17 | woglinde | *sigh* |
| 20:35.42 | XorA|gone | everyone hide, the zecke meister is around |
| 20:36.06 | woglinde | okay |
| 20:36.09 | woglinde | we have ecj |
| 20:36.17 | woglinde | thats enough |
| 20:39.37 | jseghers | Where in the linux hierarchy would you put the phoneme runtimes? It builds to three directories (pcsl, cldc, and midp) with various combinations of bin/inc/lib directories. I am trying to put it at /usr/java/... in my current attempts, and in the package, that's where they go...but my main stumbling block is getting them to be included in the Image. |
| 20:41.02 | woglinde | jsegehrs hm please look at lsb |
| 20:41.12 | woglinde | linux standard base if it says something |
| 20:41.49 | jseghers | where is lsb? |
| 20:42.40 | jseghers | never mind... found it |
| 20:42.43 | Jin^eLD | mhm, if I load a kernel image via JTAG and tell uboot to boot it - "Uncompressing Kernel Image ... Error: inflate() returned -3" does not really make sense, right? I first thought my flash was corrupt |
| 20:42.53 | Jin^eLD | any ideas what I may be missing? |
| 20:43.18 | Jin^eLD | ...so I tried directly from memory but still same problem |
| 20:43.40 | mrdata | night all |
| 20:43.56 | Jin^eLD | night.. |
| 20:44.27 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: loaded in uImage format? |
| 20:44.42 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: scratch that, just re-read what you put |
| 20:44.43 | Jin^eLD | XorA|gone: yes.. I generated the uImage with mkimage in my kernel .bb |
| 20:45.10 | Jin^eLD | uhm.. how? :) |
| 20:45.29 | Jin^eLD | the device has no network, I guess that's the main part of the struggle |
| 20:45.56 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: you can send serial to uboot |
| 20:46.03 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: takes a while, but works |
| 20:46.07 | woglinde | jseghers google linux standard base could help |
| 20:46.14 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: first time i booted a neo was that way |
| 20:46.34 | jseghers | woglinde: Yep, found that. |
| 20:47.04 | jseghers | woglinde: It might say something about it...but not that I could find in a quick perusal. |
| 20:47.05 | Jin^eLD | XorA|gone: so that feature is not some part that needs to be ported/adapted to the board, but this is something uboot'ish that will always work? |
| 20:47.12 | Jin^eLD | let me try.. |
| 20:47.45 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: I think that is in core uboot, I thought I saw it on my smdk2443 board as well |
| 20:47.53 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: but I dont have uboot devices at home |
| 20:48.01 | woglinde | jeseghers cvm should go under bin |
| 20:48.37 | woglinde | jar's mabey under /usr/share/java |
| 20:48.39 | Jin^eLD | indeed, load binary file over serial line |
| 20:48.50 | woglinde | jineld hehe |
| 20:48.58 | Jin^eLD | :> |
| 20:49.06 | woglinde | simpad can this too |
| 20:49.17 | Jin^eLD | XorA|gone: well, moment, how will that help me again? I want to dump the stuff back, not read it in, right? |
| 20:49.27 | Jin^eLD | because I can load the image via JTAG as well and thats kind of faster in this case |
| 20:49.53 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: but not working, I thought you might want to try a differnt approach |
| 20:49.59 | Jin^eLD | aah |
| 20:50.08 | Jin^eLD | ok, now I get your idea :) |
| 20:50.32 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: if it still doesnt work then the image is at fault, if it does work, jtag download is screwed |
| 20:50.41 | Jin^eLD | good point |
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| 20:51.30 | XorA|gone | if I remember right, to serial download I issued the commands in terminal left terminal open then just cat uImage >/dev/ttyS0 |
| 20:51.48 | XorA|gone | you get lots of dots drawn while it downloads |
| 20:52.25 | Jin^eLD | oh, so you did not even use kermit or alike to send the file |
| 20:52.32 | jseghers | woglinde: I'm trying to keep it somewhat localized :) trying not to have fingers spreading out all over the place...and a bunch of the scripts tend to reference things in the built hierarchy... |
| 20:52.55 | jseghers | woglinde: which was why I was thinking about perhaps /usr/java.... |
| 20:53.17 | woglinde | jsehers okay than lets try the debian approach |
| 20:53.22 | jseghers | But I'm relatively new to Linux :) |
| 20:53.36 | jseghers | and really don't know the conventions. |
| 20:53.42 | woglinde | all under /usr/lib/jvm/ |
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| 20:54.01 | jseghers | OK... That would work. |
| 20:54.12 | woglinde | and than symlink bin/cvm to /usr/lib/jvm/phonemewhatever |
| 20:54.24 | woglinde | with update-altervanties |
| 20:54.28 | woglinde | args |
| 20:54.33 | woglinde | updates-alternatives |
| 20:55.46 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: from memory I think it was just raw binary |
| 20:55.55 | XorA|gone | Jin^eLD: but it was back in Nov |
| 20:56.11 | Jin^eLD | the cat approach did not quite work for me, trying to figure this out with kermit |
| 20:57.29 | jseghers | woglinde: So, while referencing the package from RDEPENDS in local.conf go the package to build, it didn't include it in the rootfs. I'm now trying it not being referenced in local.conf and added it to PACKAGES in task-openmoko.bb... it's parsing .bb files now... we'll see if it a) builds the package and b) adds it to the image. |
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| 20:58.26 | Jin^eLD | seems to be uploading.. |
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| 21:00.18 | XorA|gone | ltg is so bad monotone mirror was trying to connect from 19:44 to 22:01 |
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| 21:02.34 | woglinde | hi laibsch |
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| 21:03.30 | XorA|gone | RP: mtn is eating all the RAM |
| 21:03.48 | RP | XorA|gone: ah :/ |
| 21:03.57 | RP | Its another bitbake |
| 21:04.12 | XorA|gone | RP: I was chatting to florian about round robinning with wolfson server which sits pretty idle all the time |
| 21:04.18 | XorA|gone | RP: to take some load off |
| 21:04.26 | RP | XorA|gone: That would be handy... |
| 21:04.28 | XorA|gone | RP: I think we organise this at guadec |
| 21:04.46 | RP | XorA|gone: I think you just volunteered to write an agenda ;-) |
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| 21:04.54 | RP | XorA|gone: well done :) |
| 21:05.19 | XorA|gone | RP: ok, I will post an email tomorrow then |
| 21:05.55 | XorA|gone | RP: btw, another bit in the autoconf puzzled, I added m4-native 1.4.8 (DEF_PREF = -1) as its needed by some macros |
| 21:06.09 | XorA|gone | RP: if the servers ever sync you'll see it |
| 21:06.18 | RP | XorA|gone: ah, right, handy to know |
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| 21:09.12 | Laibsch | good evening |
| 21:09.18 | henryk | so, back |
| 21:09.44 | jseghers | Hi Henry... sounds like we're trying to do similar things :) |
| 21:10.57 | Laibsch | WOW, load of 125! I never knew linux could go that high |
| 21:11.49 | Laibsch | XorA|gone, RP: top shows a bunch of apache2 processes as consuming the RAM |
| 21:12.52 | timtimred | Laibsch, it can go higher :) |
| 21:13.02 | henryk | jseghers: yeah, over the course of the last weekend i massaged phoneme feature to compile for openmoko (i need it for a demo tomorrow) |
| 21:13.09 | Darth_Wader | Laibsch: i`ve seen near 200 |
| 21:13.20 | henryk | jseghers: I run it with directfb and tslib for touchscreen-input |
| 21:13.26 | timtimred | i have a screenie of >300 right here! |
| 21:13.34 | Darth_Wader | but LA is somewhat unrelated to real load :] |
| 21:13.40 | Darth_Wader | my 200 was caused by stuck hdd |
| 21:13.44 | timtimred | indeed :) |
| 21:14.34 | jseghers | henryk: that sounds great! Is it running on ARM hardware and/or emulation? or on Desktop? |
| 21:14.49 | henryk | jseghers: on the openmoko, arm hardware |
| 21:15.04 | henryk | (runs in neo1973 qemu too) |
| 21:15.26 | Laibsch | Let's see if that helps at all |
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| 21:15.34 | XorA|gone | you lrg |
| 21:15.40 | XorA|gone | -u |
| 21:15.51 | jseghers | henryk: I'm trying to get a build running for qemu since I don't have a neo yet (ordered three yesterday :) |
| 21:15.58 | lrg | hey XorA|gone |
| 21:16.19 | lrg | XorA|gone: Pizza Express |
| 21:16.20 | henryk | jseghers: since qemu is designed to run the same image it just works |
| 21:16.37 | Jin^eLD | XorA|gone: same result over serial, so I guess my image is borked |
| 21:16.37 | jseghers | Could I get your .bb and patches? I've been unable to get my build to be included in the image :( |
| 21:16.54 | Jin^eLD | XorA|gone: but thanks for the hints! |
| 21:17.00 | henryk | jseghers: image integration is another point, yes |
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| 21:17.13 | Jin^eLD | especially the serial thing is cool don't know why I did not notice it in the first place |
| 21:17.26 | jseghers | henryk: you haven't been able to do that either? |
| 21:17.55 | henryk | jseghers: basically I introduced a new image target that depends on the packages i want |
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| 21:19.23 | henryk | jseghers: for some reason we documented it in german: http://sarwiki.informatik.hu-berlin.de/Eigene_Pakete_einbinden |
| 21:19.57 | jseghers | henryk: I *may* be having luck at the moment... I added the phoneme package to RDEPENDS_task-openmoko-linux in task-openmoko.bb... it's building the package... but I don't know if it will make it into the image or not. |
| 21:20.50 | Jin^eLD | night everyone |
| 21:21.39 | henryk | jseghers: image installation seems to be controlled by PACKAGE_INSTALL |
| 21:26.27 | henryk | jseghers: I don't have a svn in place, so for now i only have a tarball: http://people.openmoko.org/henryk/openmoko-sar-20070710.tar.bz2 |
| 21:27.09 | henryk | (We want to have this as a project here at the university, seems like it would be easiest for us to just have a project on top of openmoko) |
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| 21:35.44 | Laibsch | ltg and everything associated with it should be back to normal for now. |
| 21:35.53 | Laibsch | Let's hope it stays that way |
| 21:36.19 | jseghers | henryk: sounds good... I'll pull yours down. If I add my package to PACKAGE_INSTALL in openmoko-devel-image, it just seems to ignore it during the build. |
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| 21:37.43 | chouimat | ljp: hi |
| 21:38.45 | henryk | jseghers: I just did a quick translation: https://sarwiki.informatik.hu-berlin.de/Embed_Custom_Packages |
| 21:42.29 | jan_js | evening |
| 21:45.02 | jseghers | henryk: thank you! I was getting the gist of it from Google translation, but that will be useful. |
| 21:45.51 | jseghers | henryk: Whey do you get the appropriate Qtopia SDK? I can never seem to find anything but their latest which doesn't seem to be what openmoko wants. |
| 21:46.21 | jseghers | er.. "Where do you..." |
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| 21:47.27 | henryk | jseghers: qte is in openembedded |
| 21:47.37 | henryk | i'm not even sure i need that dependency anymore. |
| 21:47.45 | jseghers | henryk: thanks :) |
| 21:47.54 | henryk | as i said, i don't build against qvfb. |
| 21:49.16 | jseghers | henryk: I had also opted for building the generic network stuff instead of qt... I didn't know if it was going to work correctly, but thought I'd try that :) |
| 21:49.22 | jseghers | I see you chose the same. |
| 21:49.45 | henryk | jseghers: oh, you'll need jdk 1.4.* to build and maybe change the path in the .bb. I didn't bother to do this correctly for now. |
| 21:50.05 | jseghers | I do have 1.4.*... I'll check the path |
| 21:52.05 | henryk | jseghers: there was not much 'choosing' involved. At first I built pcsl with bsd/qte for network (following the instructions on https://phoneme.dev.java.net/content/mr2/pcsl_feature.html but then later on (can't remember if it was cldc or midp) I got an error message that said that I was supposed to rebuild with bsd/generic networking |
| 21:52.36 | henryk | jseghers: I have to relocate now, will be back online in 1h |
| 21:53.27 | jseghers | hehe... I tried to build with qte and found that my Qtopia installation was 4.2.3... and things like QSocket didn't exist any more. |
| 21:53.52 | woglinde | jseghers yes |
| 21:54.07 | woglinde | only qt3 or qte2 is supported |
| 21:54.07 | jseghers | If qte is part of openembedded...I suppose I could have found and pointed it there... |
| 21:54.16 | woglinde | qte-mt |
| 21:54.23 | woglinde | but you have to patch the Makefile |
| 21:54.32 | jseghers | woglinde: never could find out how/where to install qt3 |
| 21:57.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2637 has been created by utx(AT)penguin.cz |
| 21:57.07 | cdbot2 | * * fixes to make Sharp CE-RH2 remote working in X |
| 21:57.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2637 |
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| 22:02.40 | jseghers | henryk: I followed the instructions, but I'm getting an error that Nothing provides dependency openmoko-sar-devel-image. |
| 22:03.23 | jseghers | henryk: oops.. hadn't flushed my edit buffer for local.conf |
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| 22:17.47 | RP | Laibsch: Probably webmtn ones :/ |
| 22:18.35 | XorA|gone | I wonder if its something silly like a robot idexing webmtn :-( |
| 22:23.40 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:24.43 | polyonymous | hi |
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| 22:34.32 | XorA|gone | gnumeric, abiword, minimo all compile with autoconf 2.61 + all their deps of course |
| 22:36.20 | RP | XorA|gone: not bad |
| 22:39.51 | XorA|gone | epdfview so thats poppler chain |
| 22:44.24 | rwhitby | morning |
| 22:46.13 | XorA|gone | rwhitby: morning |
| 22:51.04 | henryk | re |
| 22:51.34 | henryk | oh, morning rwhitby |
| 22:56.21 | jseghers | henryk: I'm getting errors that it can't find packages rxvt-unicode and mono |
| 22:57.07 | henryk | jseghers: yes, just comment them out from openmoko-sar-devel-image. I like to have these packages installed in my image, but somehow they don't get built as dependency |
| 22:57.46 | henryk | they're completely non-related to the j2me stuff, just some test for me whether building my own image works |
| 22:59.28 | jseghers | henryk: Ok... removed and trying the build again :) |
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| 23:50.20 | henryk | jseghers: does it build? |
