| 00:00.04 | bipolar | polyonymous: at least, I'm trying to. Not a lot of time. :P |
| 00:00.21 | polyonymous | bipolar, and how is it going? I'm dreaming of having kdepim(pi) on qt4-x11 |
| 00:00.52 | bipolar | err... I'm going the other way around. I want to put kdepim on Qt/e :) |
| 00:01.13 | polyonymous | Ah, no big progress? I've taken a look at the new kde build system and to be true I don't fancy the idea of toying with it unless I'm at least half-sure I will get some results :) |
| 00:01.30 | polyonymous | well, I put (pi) in parentheses :) |
| 00:01.49 | CIA-3 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r0a38e756... 10/ (9 files in 4 dirs): |
| 00:01.49 | CIA-3 | poptop 1.3.4: Add 1.3.4 with some changes: |
| 00:01.49 | CIA-3 | * Mark config files as such |
| 00:01.49 | CIA-3 | * Add an init script |
| 00:01.49 | CIA-3 | * Make bcrelay and the wtmp plugin available via seperate packages |
| 00:01.50 | CIA-3 | * Make the -doc package available. |
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| 00:04.35 | polyonymous | but looking at all those pims I'm really thinking that maybe I should take a week off of everything and hack together my own :) |
| 00:04.55 | bipolar | polyonymous: I'm still not used to cmake. |
| 00:05.08 | polyonymous | bipolar, that's a part of nightmare, indeed :) |
| 00:07.50 | bipolar | polyonymous: so far, it's been really simple to get kdebase to *build*. it's not stable though. |
| 00:07.58 | bipolar | at least, when the code is buildable :P |
| 00:08.30 | polyonymous | what are kdepim's deps? |
| 00:09.53 | bipolar | kdelib, kdepimlib, kdebase |
| 00:10.04 | bipolar | Which I've built |
| 00:10.16 | bipolar | but kdelibs needs work to make it stable. |
| 00:10.29 | bipolar | there are too many assumptions in the code. |
| 00:10.39 | polyonymous | and they all depend on boost too? |
| 00:11.05 | bipolar | er.... I dunno. maybe boost is a requirement of kdepim. |
| 00:11.08 | bipolar | I havn't needed it yet |
| 00:14.06 | polyonymous | good to know you haven't :) |
| 00:16.22 | bipolar | does anyone know of a good way to get cvs stats? Like a graph showing everyone who's commited code and the # of lines, etc.... |
| 00:18.46 | Marex | bipolar, find, cat, grep, awk, wc? :b |
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| 00:19.07 | Marex | and then something like rrdtool |
| 00:21.50 | v8jlene | bipolar: Something like this: http://statcvs.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:21.53 | bipolar | gah... ugly |
| 00:22.25 | bipolar | v8jlene: hmm... interesting |
| 00:22.39 | bipolar | v8jlene: thanks. I'll see if that works. |
| 00:23.38 | polyonymous | and I personally agree with Linus on cvs :) |
| 00:24.01 | bipolar | he certionly knows what he's talking about. |
| 00:24.14 | bipolar | I didn't get a chance to watch the whole video though. |
| 00:24.16 | bipolar | I should do that now |
| 00:24.24 | polyonymous | We all know what he's talking about :) |
| 00:24.44 | polyonymous | Well, I wouldn't say I learned much from the video, but since it's well-know it's a nice thing to refer to :) |
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| 01:29.14 | CIA-3 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * rb56888d6... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/usage.xml): usermanual/usage: Add some details on what configuration files exist in OE. |
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| 01:56.30 | CIA-3 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r10f66fad... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): |
| 01:56.30 | CIA-3 | usermanual: Split each of the original chapters out of usermanual.xml into a |
| 01:56.30 | CIA-3 | seperate file per chapter in the chapters subdirectory. In preparation for |
| 01:56.30 | CIA-3 | cleaning up some of the overlap between chapters and to make life a bit |
| 01:56.30 | CIA-3 | easier for editing and merging. |
| 01:56.32 | CIA-3 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r8f846078... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/usage.xml): |
| 01:56.35 | CIA-3 | usermanual usage: Add the missing section_id on the configuration chapter so |
| 01:56.37 | CIA-3 | it gets a filename that'll remain constant. |
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| 02:25.04 | bipolar | kergoth: I thought you might like to see this: http://www.bipolardevelopment.com/opiestats/ |
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| 03:20.49 | mickey_fic | morning |
| 03:21.26 | chouimat | mickey_fic: good night :) |
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| 03:28.59 | mickey_fic | hehe |
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| 03:41.55 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 03:43.09 | mickey_fic | night chouimat|Zzzz |
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| 03:55.17 | mickey_fic | schurig: up early? |
| 04:00.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1871 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by angus@handheldshell.com |
| 04:00.07 | cdbot2 | * * Suspend on SLC3200 |
| 04:00.34 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1871 |
| 04:10.21 | Zero_Chaos | ~emulate stewie |
| 04:10.23 | ibot | Do you want a soooda? |
| 04:10.47 | Zero_Chaos | ~emulate stewie |
| 04:10.48 | ibot | I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster. |
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| 04:24.55 | mickey_fic | hmm |
| 04:25.02 | mickey_fic | ImportError: no module named _md5 |
| 04:25.07 | mickey_fic | sigh |
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| 04:58.34 | Marex | NOTE: package qtopia-opensource-4.2.2: completed |
| 05:00.23 | polyonymous | Marex, and? :) |
| 05:00.38 | Marex | polyonymous, it compiled |
| 05:00.43 | Marex | what else can you wish for :B |
| 05:00.45 | polyonymous | I figured :) |
| 05:00.52 | polyonymous | run? :) |
| 05:04.32 | Marex | havent tested yet :B |
| 05:05.14 | ljp | nice |
| 05:11.22 | Marex | Im preparing qemu to boot it in a while |
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| 05:15.27 | Marex | hi hvontres|home |
| 05:15.44 | Marex | hvontres|home, I have preliminary qtopia-free version that even compiles now :b |
| 05:19.11 | hvontres|home | Marex: cool:) |
| 05:19.23 | Marex | hvontres|home, wanna play with it? |
| 05:19.30 | hvontres|home | Marex: sure :) |
| 05:19.40 | Marex | it still doesnt install and create package correctly, but thats an easy fix |
| 05:20.07 | Marex | actually install works so you can pick image from WORKDIR/image and copy it manually |
| 05:20.21 | Marex | hvontres|home, ok ... just a second |
| 05:20.26 | hvontres|home | Marex: let me know when you have that fixed, and I'll give a whirl on my poodle :) |
| 05:20.42 | Marex | hvontres|home, you can fix it yourself too :b |
| 05:21.25 | Marex | hvontres|home, I dont really know how to fix it and since my body's uptime will reach one day soon I have no intention fixing it right now :b |
| 05:22.20 | hvontres|home | Marex: no hurry. I probably won't get much time befor this weekend anyways |
| 05:22.28 | Marex | ah ok |
| 05:23.57 | Marex | http://disk.jabbim.cz/marex@jabber.cz/qtopia-opensource_4.2.2.bb |
| 05:24.03 | Marex | really a dirty hack though |
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| 05:26.48 | hvontres|home | Marex: hey, it's a start :) |
| 05:28.37 | Marex | yup :) |
| 05:28.46 | Marex | have you managed to download that file? |
| 05:30.56 | hvontres|home | Marex: yep |
| 05:31.14 | Marex | ok |
| 05:31.20 | hvontres|home | Marex: you might want to give ljp a shout too :) |
| 05:32.39 | Marex | ljp, boo :-b |
| 05:33.00 | Marex | hope this shout wasnt too scary for him :) |
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| 05:41.05 | ljp | oh ya, ya scared me! :) |
| 05:41.44 | mickey_fic | heh |
| 05:43.09 | Marex | ljp, :) |
| 05:43.18 | Marex | check the link few lines higher |
| 05:44.56 | ljp | saw that |
| 05:46.01 | ljp | might need to incoprorate device configuration option.. |
| 05:46.18 | ljp | i have been trying to free up some time to work on a qtopia bb |
| 05:47.28 | Marex | this .bb is really a pretty dirty hack though |
| 05:47.41 | ljp | a good start though |
| 05:48.20 | Marex | ljp, it doesnt seem to even work now :o |
| 05:48.51 | ljp | yz, qtopia friggin has to build _everything_ including desktop tools |
| 05:49.29 | Marex | even my dictionary doesnt support your english :b |
| 05:49.34 | ljp | geee, cant imagine someone not wanting to build them... |
| 05:50.58 | ljp | i think everyone is going to like 4.3 |
| 05:54.27 | ljp | for qtopia build, really, the ony variable that needs to be set is QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH |
| 05:55.11 | Marex | yup, I know there is a lot of mess in that file |
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| 06:00.17 | Marex | gnight |
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| 06:16.28 | steliosk | morning all |
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| 06:18.50 | koen | good morning all |
| 06:18.54 | koen | hey mickey_fic |
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| 06:20.42 | mickey_fic | hiho koen |
| 06:21.22 | hvontres|home | ~seen thesing |
| 06:21.26 | ibot | thesing <n=tkunze@wll193-141.wlan.hu-berlin.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 22h 8m 15s ago, saying: 'wouldn't it be better to fix uboot?'. |
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| 07:27.33 | schurig | mickey_fic: no, not up, I kept my computer in the office running |
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| 07:27.54 | schurig | mickey_fic: it just re-connected automatically after the DSL timeout |
| 07:33.30 | mickey_fic | ah |
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| 07:55.36 | schurig | mickey_fic: but YOU are up early ... |
| 07:55.51 | schurig | mickey_fic: I thought you're usually come back to live around 10:00 hours |
| 07:56.38 | schurig | mickey_fic: we should sometime visit you by bike. We already drove one evening to Bad Vilbel. Using the bike way at the Nidda, quite nice :-) |
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| 07:58.15 | koen | schurig: mickey_fic is in taipei :) |
| 07:58.33 | schurig | koen: oh, I don't want that long a bike tour :-) |
| 07:59.00 | mickey_fic | hehe |
| 07:59.03 | schurig | koen: in Taiwan it would be to hot and damp for me to make a bike tour anyway |
| 07:59.18 | schurig | I was once in Singapur, that was enought :-) |
| 07:59.28 | koen | heh |
| 07:59.35 | koen | hmm |
| 07:59.42 | koen | it's that time of the month again |
| 07:59.48 | koen | RMK has PMS again |
| 08:00.13 | schurig | koen: PMS? |
| 08:00.26 | koen | pre menstruation syndrom |
| 08:00.32 | schurig | koen: oh :-) |
| 08:01.16 | schurig | koen: he is stull using rcp and wondering how to can transfer a single extracted mail from one system to the other and run a script at the other side then ... |
| 08:01.36 | koen | yeah |
| 08:01.50 | schurig | koen: maybe someone should introduce him to brand new technology (ehem), like scp and ssh "remove_cmd" :-) |
| 08:02.01 | koen | now he's being pissy when people point out the hole he dug for himself called "the patch system" |
| 08:03.01 | mickey_fic | could someone checkin gps-default please? |
| 08:03.02 | mickey_fic | it |
| 08:03.05 | mickey_fic | 's missing |
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| 08:04.05 | florian | good morning |
| 08:04.19 | koen | mickey_fic: it's attached to #2465 |
| 08:04.23 | hrw | ops |
| 08:04.49 | hrw | pushing |
| 08:06.37 | koen | hey florian |
| 08:08.00 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re9648d60... 10/ (1 packages/gpsd/files/gpsd-default): gpsd: add default |
| 08:08.02 | hrw | mickey_fic: pushed to ewi |
| 08:08.29 | schurig | mickey_fic: does this FIC phone have a GPS chip built in? |
| 08:09.21 | hrw | schurig: it does. |
| 08:09.35 | hrw | schurig: Hammerhead one + closedsource binary to use it |
| 08:09.38 | mickey_fic | yes, agps |
| 08:12.38 | schurig | that makes this device suddenly much more interesting to me |
| 08:13.05 | schurig | hrw: what exactly is AGPS? I know differential GPS, but what assists in AGPS? |
| 08:14.32 | schurig | nice picture here: http://www.pbase.com/gpspassionbis/image/74217078/original.jpg |
| 08:17.38 | hrw | schurig: openmoko wiki has infos |
| 08:17.44 | mickey_fic | precalculated satellite positions or so |
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| 08:20.25 | mickey_fic | hrw: thanks |
| 08:30.01 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb1f3f390... 10/ (1 packages/gpsd/files/gpsd-default): gpsd: added forgotten file |
| 08:30.15 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9f82ece5... 10/ (5 files in 5 dirs): xcalibrate: merge fixes from poky. This should stop it fetching everytime and allow builds from machines without internet connection |
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| 08:35.41 | rwhitby | koen: yeah, he did just spit the dummy didn't he? |
| 08:37.03 | koen | rwhitby: yes he did |
| 08:37.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2479 has been created by koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl |
| 08:37.06 | cdbot2 | * * poptop seems to be missing files |
| 08:37.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2479 |
| 08:37.35 | rwhitby | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 08:37.37 | ibot | Another Satisfied Customer! |
| 08:38.29 | rwhitby | all caps for the last line of his latest message :-) - I wonder if that violates the mailing list etiquette FAQ mailed out every week? |
| 08:39.45 | rwhitby | (this is on linux-arm-kernel for those watching and wondering what we're talking about ... |
| 08:39.50 | mickey_fic | which ml are you referring to? |
| 08:39.51 | mickey_fic | ah |
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| 08:42.20 | hrw | Russell 'my patch system is great and I will not change' King |
| 08:44.21 | koen | Russell " I sleep next to the server" King |
| 08:46.46 | hrw | trust no one |
| 08:58.00 | theBrave | Good morning everybody |
| 08:58.44 | koen | hey theBrave |
| 08:59.16 | hrw | brave, brave sir Robin |
| 08:59.27 | theBrave | :) |
| 08:59.59 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1565e4c6... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): netbase: add empty dirs needed for the build |
| 09:00.08 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8119e938... 10/ (1 packages/gpsd/files/gpsd-default): grrrr |
| 09:00.19 | NAiL | hmm |
| 09:02.35 | koen | :) |
| 09:05.24 | theBrave | I have (another) problem: only a subset of the kernel modules linux compiled are actually copied into the rootfs. How do I ask oe to install them all ? |
| 09:06.17 | theBrave | I have ALLOW_EMPTY_kernel-modules-*, PACKAGES, RDEPENDS, module_autoload with lot of module names |
| 09:06.20 | hrw | ipkg install kernel-modules |
| 09:06.30 | mickey_fic | make something depend on them |
| 09:06.49 | theBrave | in my recipe, do I have to include each name ? |
| 09:08.39 | koen | NOTE: Applying patch 'patch-2.6.22-rc1' |
| 09:09.06 | hrw | NOTE: Applying patch 'fix-missing-includes.patch' |
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| 09:10.05 | zecke | RP: do you have another second for some private stuff? |
| 09:13.08 | zecke | RP: awesome :) |
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| 09:31.52 | hrw | koen: how fast is at91 ethernet? |
| 09:33.22 | koen | I'll let you know after I get linux booted |
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| 09:38.04 | hrw | ok |
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| 09:45.31 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd5b01b9b... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux 2.6.20, 2.6.21, 2.6.21+2.6.22-rc1: fix install for uImage |
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| 09:49.37 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc171d0d0... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux 2.6.20, 2.6.21, 2.6.21+2.6.22-rc1: more uImage fixes, don't we love that all kernel archs behave the same? </sarcasm> |
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| 09:54.55 | hrw | koen: add gnu-tar to spitz images dir please |
| 09:55.36 | hrw | [ 5] 0.0- 5.0 sec 0.07 MBytes 0.01 MBytes/sec |
| 09:55.47 | koen | check the 0502 dir |
| 09:55.49 | hrw | koen: thats *Fast*Ethernet :D |
| 09:56.07 | hrw | so it is only in one dir and not in newer ones? |
| 09:56.29 | koen | cause the machine mentors are lazy |
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| 10:03.12 | koen | do we have a working uboot mkimage besides the the gta01 one? |
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| 10:06.17 | hrw | yes |
| 10:06.28 | hrw | omap5912osk for example |
| 10:09.29 | Laibsch | good morning |
| 10:09.31 | Laibsch | koen: Well, the desire for uploads has been communicated somewhat less than clearly. |
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| 10:09.47 | Laibsch | Uploads to unsorted just as always? |
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| 10:09.52 | Laibsch | For images, too? |
| 10:09.58 | Crofton | omap5912osk really dos work |
| 10:10.38 | koen | hrw: can I build that for every machine? |
| 10:10.48 | Laibsch | hrw: what is the equivalent of ssh-add to have a complete X session access to the ssh keyring? |
| 10:13.38 | CIA-3 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r64e41417... 10/ (1 packages/poptop/poptop_1.3.4.bb): |
| 10:13.38 | CIA-3 | poptop 1.3.4: Remove the wtmp plugin, it's built for the wrong arch. I |
| 10:13.38 | CIA-3 | suspect this will close #2479 which looks to be this issue combined with |
| 10:13.38 | CIA-3 | insane.bbclass. |
| 10:13.59 | v8jlene | koen: that push should fix poptop for you, I suspect it was insane.bbclass bailing out because of the wrong arch for one of the files |
| 10:14.17 | hrw | koen: no idea does mkimage is related or not - according to few people from #oe is it related to machine |
| 10:14.20 | koen | v8jlene: thanks |
| 10:16.05 | v8jlene | steliosk: That uclibc worked fine for me this morning |
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| 10:33.02 | koen | my next commit is for XorA|holiday |
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| 10:36.45 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra8b6843f... 10/ (1 packages/netbase/netbase/if-down.d): netbase: one more missing dir |
| 10:36.50 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdf4c815d... 10/ (62 files in 3 dirs): u-boot-mkimage-gta01-native: add a static git tag and put patches in OE to stop breakage |
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| 10:39.03 | Laibsch | koen: upload images to feeds/unsorted or straight into the images dir? |
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| 10:49.33 | CIA-3 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r151a325a... 10/ (1 packages/gaim/gaim_2.0.0-cvs-mco1.bb): gaim: set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" for unfetchable cvs version |
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| 11:07.40 | Laibsch | koen: are you ignoring me for some reason? Why do you complain about missing uploads from mentors but then don't answer simple questions? |
| 11:08.34 | koen | because your question answers itself |
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| 11:19.25 | Laibsch | well, then f*ck you |
| 11:19.37 | Laibsch | It obviously does not answer itself |
| 11:19.43 | Laibsch | You are nothing but bitching |
| 11:20.06 | Laibsch | But in most cases I think you have lost the right to bitch |
| 11:20.17 | Laibsch | It is absolutly NOT clear where you want the upload |
| 11:20.48 | Laibsch | Uploading to feeds/unsorted now, although I am quite certain that is not where you want it |
| 11:20.57 | Laibsch | Do with it as you please |
| 11:21.04 | zecke | context? |
| 11:21.05 | koen | " do I upload oranges to the oranges dir or to the unsorted apples dir? " |
| 11:21.29 | Laibsch | zecke: koen is his usual bitching self |
| 11:21.39 | Laibsch | But unwilling to answer how to fix things |
| 11:21.46 | Laibsch | business as usual, really |
| 11:21.53 | zecke | koen: you will end up making angstrom have the smallest possible developer community |
| 11:21.58 | Laibsch | man, this guy has a problem |
| 11:22.09 | zecke | koen: and I wonder if that is the goal of angstrom, it would make sense |
| 11:23.06 | Laibsch | koen: I am also sure you'd not want the upload straight into the images dir |
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| 11:25.52 | polyonymous | alternatively, angstrom developer community will consist of saints only, which is a good thing. |
| 11:26.56 | thesing | hi all |
| 11:27.29 | hrw | hi thesing |
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| 11:42.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2479 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by lenehan@twibble.org |
| 11:42.07 | cdbot2 | * * poptop seems to be missing files |
| 11:42.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2479 |
| 11:49.22 | Laibsch | koen: OK, I gather from http://paste.stgraber.org/1556 which you executed on ltg.org that you really don't want my images. Fine, I don't mind. But please do us a favor and stop your hipocritical, childish bitching. It is really becoming a nuisance. |
| 11:49.44 | Laibsch | I will also stop uploading until you have documented at a proper place how you want things to be done |
| 11:50.20 | Laibsch | " do I upload oranges to the oranges dir or to the unsorted apples dir? " <- I'd have expected an unsorted or incoming directory in images |
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| 11:50.42 | Laibsch | So much for logical consistency. We already learned yesterday that this is not your strong point. |
| 11:51.35 | Laibsch | And everybody knows that making it easy for contributors is also not your strong point or main priority as it seems. |
| 11:52.24 | psokolovsky_ | Laibsch: while such cases are never pleasant, you should keep in mind that you don't what another person is now on and what hassle one has. Make discount that one may caught in time trouble, be overloaded, ahev pain in the neck, etc. |
| 11:53.27 | psokolovsky_ | Laibsch: also, you should understand that you're now too the part of decision process. You should consult with other devels on things, but lack of feedback doesn't mean ignoring. If you got to do that, make sure you do it right, and do it! |
| 11:54.13 | hrw | and angstrom devel stuff can be also discussed on ML |
| 11:54.18 | hrw | proper ML |
| 11:54.20 | Laibsch | psokolovsky_: I appreciate your points and I think they are valid in general. But I think you and I know that they don't apply to koen |
| 11:54.54 | rob_w|mis | why all the hostility guys |
| 11:55.19 | ade|desk | and why on #OE , please use #angstrom for this |
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| 12:03.12 | hrw | someone booted DOS via PXE? |
| 12:08.50 | theBrave | Hello, in which step is the /etc/modules done ? I have all modules in /lib/.../kernel/ . All I want for now is the ethernet driver, so I added "module_autoload += "smc91x"" at the end of my recipe. |
| 12:11.09 | theBrave | but I don't even have the file. i'm doing a bootstrap-image target |
| 12:11.54 | thesing | hrw: why do you want to do this? |
| 12:13.37 | hrw | thesing: my laptop boot from hdd or pxe |
| 12:14.18 | hrw | and bios updater is dos tool |
| 12:14.33 | hrw | but booted with memdisk to freedos |
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| 12:18.05 | dcordes | hello |
| 12:23.54 | tmbinc_ | (please excuse my inability to express myself ...) can i define additional, how are they called?, "overrides"? (today i can write "xxx_append_mymachine" which only gets appended when ${MACHINE} == mymachine.. now i want to define a new property in my machine config, because i have many similiar machines which often share stuff and require the same overrides) |
| 12:26.40 | oxo | ~pastebin |
| 12:26.42 | ibot | pastebin is, like, a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
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| 12:30.33 | RP | tmbinc_: Yes, you can add things to OVERRIDES |
| 12:31.01 | RP | tmbinc_: Its default is in bitbake.conf |
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| 12:39.48 | oxo | hmm, guys |
| 12:39.50 | oxo | work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux-uclibc/perl-5.8.8-r20/perl-5.8.8/libperl.so: ELF file OS ABI invalid |
| 12:39.54 | oxo | ( http://rafb.net/p/QkcuLh94.html ) |
| 12:40.08 | oxo | could this be a bug? |
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| 12:46.59 | v8jlene | oxo: can you show me the output of: "cd work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux-uclibc/perl-5.8.8-r20/perl-5.8.8; ldd miniperl" |
| 12:47.22 | v8jlene | oxo: It's loading libperl.so from that directory, which is wrong, it should be loading the one from staging... |
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| 12:48.06 | v8jlene | oxo: What host distro are you using? |
| 12:49.08 | oxo | v8jlene: gentoo |
| 12:49.58 | oxo | v8jlene: http://rafb.net/p/fxXrWh98.html |
| 12:50.44 | v8jlene | oxo: So you can run "./miniperl -v" in that directory just fine then? |
| 12:51.18 | v8jlene | oxo: But this fails (same dir)?: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/oe/tmp/angstrom/work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux-uclibc/perl-5.8.8-r20/perl-5.8.8 ./miniperl |
| 12:51.26 | oxo | it seems so, yes |
| 12:51.49 | oxo | and yes @ second question |
| 12:52.13 | oxo | http://rafb.net/p/wZ2jZG67.html |
| 12:55.49 | v8jlene | Ok. So your linker seems to be looking at LD_LIBRARY_PATH before the built in rpath in the binary... which seems to be some new behaviour. You don't happen to have glibc 2.6 installed on the host do you? |
| 12:56.16 | oxo | lemme see |
| 12:56.34 | oxo | `GNU C Library stable release version 2.5' |
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| 13:05.44 | v8jlene | oxo: I'm out of ideas at the moment. You might want to stick a bug in the bugtracker for it. I'll think about it some more tomorrow... |
| 13:09.50 | v8jlene | oxo: Does this work: LD_RUN_PATH=/opt/oe/tmp/angstrom/work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux-uclibc/perl-5.8.8-r20/perl-5.8.8 ./miniperl |
| 13:10.40 | v8jlene | oxo: And the output of this might help: readelf -d miniperl | grep rpath |
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| 13:11.17 | oxo | mom, lemme check |
| 13:11.31 | oxo | yes, that works |
| 13:12.00 | oxo | rpath points to staging |
| 13:13.35 | v8jlene | Ok, for some reason your system allows LD_LIBRARY_PATH to override rpath, which is not what linux has ever done, but others such as solaris have behaved that way. LD_RUN_PATH works... but is it safe to use that in this case... |
| 13:14.59 | oxo | hmm, ok, I guess it's up to me now to `fix' it? :-) |
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| 13:18.25 | theBrave | Hello, I want to compile linux 2.6.16 for omap, so I set prefered version in local.con, but I obtain "NOTE: preferred version 2.6.16 of linux not available (for item virtual/kernel)" message even if there is a file named linux-omap1_2.6.16-omap1.bb |
| 13:20.39 | v8jlene | oxo: Well, in theory this should fix it: sed -i -e s/LD_LIBRARY_PATH/LD_RUN_PATH/ packages/perl/perl-5.8.8/config.sh |
| 13:21.03 | v8jlene | oxo: And then clean/rebuild perl... the real question is if it's going to break something else ;) |
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| 13:24.45 | v8jlene | theBrave: Did you try the bitbake options like -v and -D to get more info on why it won't accept that version? |
| 13:25.04 | theBrave | no, i'll try now |
| 13:26.40 | oxo | v8jlene: what's the preferred way to do a clean/rebuild? |
| 13:26.56 | oxo | ie: is there a `bitbake --clean <pkg>' command? |
| 13:27.09 | v8jlene | oxo: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=usage_workwithsinglerecipe |
| 13:27.25 | v8jlene | oxo: yep, "bitbake perl -c clean" |
| 13:27.34 | oxo | ah, tnx |
| 13:27.51 | chouimat | morning |
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| 13:28.08 | v8jlene | oxo: or "bitbake -b <path-to-bb-file> -c clean" to save parsing and building dependencies.. |
| 13:29.29 | dcordes | somebody knows when xora will be back? |
| 13:30.02 | koen | dcordes: next monday afaik |
| 13:31.27 | dcordes | koen, ok. maybe you can help me: does he have some kind of server? He made me an agnstrom image with a kernel patch which removed the usb battery power limit |
| 13:31.38 | dcordes | and I don't remember the website |
| 13:33.40 | Jin^eLD | dcordes: if he gave you the url on the channel, you might find it in the channel logs, there is a page containing all logs |
| 13:34.19 | dcordes | Jin^eLD, oh good idea. thanks |
| 13:34.45 | Jin^eLD | dcordes: I think the logs are there http://ibot.rikers.org/%23oe/ |
| 13:35.14 | Jin^eLD | l8r everyone |
| 13:35.41 | dcordes | Jin|away, cya |
| 13:36.36 | Crofton | koen, we really need to beat Rishi over the head and get him to send me a davinci EVM |
| 13:37.42 | dcordes | don't beat each other |
| 13:38.30 | v8jlene | oxo: Way past my bed time... so I'm going. But let me know if that works for you. Probably best to put up a bug about it to keep track of the issue. |
| 13:39.21 | dcordes | the logs are exactly missing for the days when XorA|holiday was so kind to make the kernel patch |
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| 13:40.33 | oxo | v8jlene: tnx |
| 13:45.21 | thesing | dcordes: http://www.hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/ <- try here |
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| 13:47.58 | theBrave | v8jlene, I obtain that : |
| 13:48.04 | theBrave | DEBUG: providers for virtual/kernel are: ['linux', 'poodle-kernel-2.4-embedix', 'c7x0-kernels-2.4-embedix', 'collie-kernels-2.4-embedix', 'linux-h1940', 'LAB-kernel', 'a780-kernel', 'linux-omap1', 'linux-bast', 'corgi-kernel-2.4-embedix', 'shepherd-kernel-2.4-embedix', 'linux-omap-2.6', 'poodle255-kernel-2.4-embedix', 'husky-kernel-2.4-embedix'] |
| 13:48.05 | theBrave | NOTE: preferred version 2.6.16 of linux not available (for item virtual/kernel) |
| 13:48.05 | theBrave | NOTE: selecting linux-omap1 to satisfy virtual/kernel due to PREFERRED_PROVIDERS |
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| 13:48.36 | theBrave | do I have to "annonce" my new bb file somewhere ? |
| 13:49.07 | hrw | to bugtracker? |
| 13:50.16 | theBrave | what do you mean hrw ? |
| 13:52.05 | hrw | ah.. you added own kernel recipe and bitbake does not catch it? |
| 13:52.39 | theBrave | yep, but I think there could be an error either in bb or in naming |
| 13:52.47 | hrw | what is name? |
| 13:52.50 | hrw | filename |
| 13:53.59 | theBrave | linux-omap1_2.6.16-omap1.bb |
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| 13:54.49 | theBrave | the contents are here: http://rafb.net/p/7oR1Y856.html |
| 13:56.20 | theBrave | by the way, I /almost/ finished gumstix 2.6.20. I have avahi, udhcp and udevd not working, and "error getting socket address family not supported by protocol" errors sometimes |
| 13:56.38 | hrw | theBrave: then in machine config set: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-omap1" |
| 13:56.58 | hrw | theBrave: you support few machines? |
| 13:58.49 | theBrave | i usually work on omap5912 but my boss wanted to try something on gumstix |
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| 13:59.34 | dcordes | thesing, found what I was looking for. thanks for the tipp |
| 13:59.49 | Crofton | theBrave, do you have good luck with Angstrom and the OSK? |
| 14:00.04 | hrw | theBrave: omap5912osk is Crofton toy |
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| 14:01.28 | theBrave | hrw, PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-omap1 is already in omap5912osk.conf |
| 14:01.50 | theBrave | at the same time, i want 2.6.20 on gumstix and 2.6.16 on osk |
| 14:02.37 | Crofton | there is a gumstix.conf? |
| 14:03.00 | theBrave | Crofton, I have no problems with the osk while i'm staying with 2.6.20 |
| 14:03.27 | theBrave | Crofton, yep, there is an gumstix.conf |
| 14:04.02 | Crofton | when I am bored, I'll look into 2.6.21 for the OSK |
| 14:04.10 | Crofton | is there any pressing need to upgrade? |
| 14:04.18 | theBrave | Crofton, my compny has made patchs on linux 2.6.16 and i want to add a recipe to try to compile it with oe |
| 14:04.27 | Crofton | I assume you can specify a different kernel for the gumstix |
| 14:04.38 | Crofton | for OSK? |
| 14:04.54 | theBrave | yes |
| 14:04.54 | Crofton | or gumstix? |
| 14:04.58 | Crofton | interesting |
| 14:05.03 | theBrave | 2.6.16 for gumstix |
| 14:05.17 | Crofton | I am confused now |
| 14:05.24 | theBrave | sorry |
| 14:05.27 | Crofton | np |
| 14:05.32 | Crofton | what do you need? |
| 14:05.33 | theBrave | i want 2.6.16 for osk |
| 14:05.38 | Crofton | ah |
| 14:05.44 | Crofton | what do these patches do? |
| 14:06.25 | theBrave | we make hypervisors |
| 14:06.31 | Crofton | in the OSK? |
| 14:06.45 | Crofton | this is like a virtualization thing on the OSK? |
| 14:06.45 | theBrave | yes, we are able to run several os at the same time |
| 14:07.05 | theBrave | better we are able to run one realtime os and a linux |
| 14:07.25 | theBrave | or 2 linux |
| 14:07.31 | Crofton | The low latency stuff is not good enogh? |
| 14:07.46 | Crofton | anyway, I would suggest using BBCOLLECTIONS to add a new kernel file |
| 14:07.49 | Crofton | bb file |
| 14:08.07 | Crofton | I think that would be the best appraoch |
| 14:08.19 | Crofton | I wonder if you can override amchine file that way also? |
| 14:08.52 | theBrave | but do you have any idea why it doesn't use my file |
| 14:08.54 | theBrave | ? |
| 14:09.21 | Crofton | you have chnges the prefered provider in omap5912osk to your kernel bb file? |
| 14:10.03 | Crofton | I came in halfway through the converstion ,,,,, |
| 14:11.31 | theBrave | no its just a copy of linux-omap1_2.6.20-omap1.bb with the new kernel address and muru patch |
| 14:11.34 | theBrave | look http://rafb.net/p/63Kh6954.html |
| 14:11.39 | Crofton | yeah |
| 14:11.59 | Crofton | so you need to correctly set the prefered providr line |
| 14:12.23 | Crofton | which currently uses the most recent linux-omap1 without a def pref = -1 |
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| 14:12.52 | theBrave | PREFERRED_VERSION_linux = "2.6.16" is not enough ? |
| 14:13.22 | chouimat | bipolar: morning |
| 14:14.24 | Crofton | not sure |
| 14:14.26 | bipolar | good morning |
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| 14:15.50 | theBrave | but PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-omap1" is already set in omap5912osk.conf, do you want me to repeat the line in linux-2.6.16xxx.bb ? |
| 14:16.05 | theBrave | or in local.conf ? |
| 14:16.17 | Crofton | try using version string 2.6.16-omap1 |
| 14:16.21 | theBrave | ok |
| 14:16.39 | Crofton | I think everythign after the underscore is version info |
| 14:16.50 | Crofton | I am not sure why we incule omap1 in the version info |
| 14:18.35 | hrw | Crofton: because it is 2.6.16-omap1 kernel |
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| 14:19.05 | Crofton | well the name part already has linnux-omap1 in it |
| 14:19.09 | Crofton | seems redundant |
| 14:20.54 | Crofton | I should remove the older recipes |
| 14:20.59 | Crofton | at some point |
| 14:21.19 | theBrave | :( don't work... NOTE: preferred version 2.6.16-omap1 of linux not available (for item virtual/kernel) |
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| 14:22.55 | Crofton | bugger all |
| 14:23.04 | Crofton | I do not understand how this all works |
| 14:23.51 | Crofton | as a bad hack add |
| 14:24.18 | Crofton | DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" |
| 14:24.23 | Crofton | to higher vresion |
| 14:25.03 | Crofton | I need to develop a plan for today, but I will try and figure this out today |
| 14:25.15 | Crofton | at some point I will need to know how to do what you are asking |
| 14:25.30 | Crofton | for testing purpose |
| 14:25.48 | theBrave | where is DEFAULT_PREFERENCE ? |
| 14:26.24 | Crofton | after PR in the bb file |
| 14:26.34 | Crofton | you will need to add it |
| 14:27.00 | Crofton | basicaly, that will force bitbake to ignore that version |
| 14:27.12 | Crofton | see the linux-omap1 git bb file |
| 14:28.35 | theBrave | ok, so I have to disable 2.6.18, 19 & 20. that's an ugly hack |
| 14:28.43 | Crofton | yes |
| 14:28.52 | Crofton | I said it was not pretty |
| 14:28.57 | theBrave | :) |
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| 14:30.07 | hrw | PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-omap1 = "2.6.16-omap1" should works |
| 14:30.20 | Crofton | ah |
| 14:30.39 | Crofton | I was begining to wonder if it was something like that .... |
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| 14:31.16 | theBrave | i'll try it |
| 14:37.06 | koen | thesing: did you see the atag patch resurfacing on LAK? |
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| 14:38.13 | thesing | koen: No. I'm not at LAK. But I think its time I subscribe. Thanks. |
| 14:39.07 | koen | thesing: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel |
| 14:41.02 | theBrave | Crofton, it downloads 2.6.16, that a good begining |
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| 14:45.54 | Crofton | :) |
| 14:45.57 | Crofton | excellent |
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| 14:49.31 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3909823d... 10/ (1 packages/gaim/pidgin.inc packages/gaim/pidgin_2.0.1.bb): pidgin: recommend gnutls plugin |
| 14:54.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2480 has been created by lukas.gorris@gmx.de |
| 14:54.06 | cdbot2 | * * gaim-protocol-msn lacking SSL |
| 14:54.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2480 |
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| 15:07.45 | hrw | bye |
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| 15:12.05 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2481 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com |
| 15:12.07 | cdbot2 | * * binutils-cross-sdk-dbg is listed in PACKAGES mutliple times |
| 15:12.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2481 |
| 15:19.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2482 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com |
| 15:19.06 | cdbot2 | * * binutils-cross-sdk: non debug package contains . debug directory |
| 15:19.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2482 |
| 15:23.19 | CIA-3 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r954be7b7... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox-keyboard/mboxkbd-layouts-gui_git.bb): mboxkbd-layouts-gui: Add DEPENDS and SECTION. |
| 15:23.21 | Laibsch | slapin: Are you sure those bugs are not introduced by local changes? |
| 15:23.24 | CIA-3 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rfd3a89f2... 10/ (16 files in 15 dirs): |
| 15:23.24 | CIA-3 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Drop -hh5, add 2.6.21-hh7. |
| 15:23.24 | CIA-3 | * Changes since -hh6: |
| 15:23.24 | CIA-3 | 1. Synced with power/battery tree |
| 15:23.24 | CIA-3 | 2. ghi270 machine update |
| 15:23.26 | CIA-3 | 3. ts-adc-debounce fix |
| 15:23.28 | CIA-3 | * Also, update configs from defconfigman r281 |
| 15:23.39 | Laibsch | slapin: Especially the .debug problem is strange |
| 15:23.52 | slapin | Laibsch, I'm sure |
| 15:24.07 | slapin | Laibsch, I specially reverted all changes |
| 15:24.23 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: did exe rename in mboxkbd-layouts-gui? |
| 15:24.43 | slapin | psokolovsky_, as soon as I get image |
| 15:24.48 | Laibsch | Look at packages/binutils/binutils-cross-sdk_2.17.50.0.5.bb, packages/binutils/binutils_2.17.50.0.5.bb and packages/binutils/binutils.inc and you will see that PACKAGES is not hardcoded, so -dbg PACKAGE should be there |
| 15:25.05 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: hwo rename in your git relates to image? please rename asap |
| 15:25.21 | slapin | psokolovsky_, as soon as I resolve other things |
| 15:25.26 | Laibsch | And according to http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=recipes_packages /bin/.debug should be packaged in -dbg |
| 15:25.43 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: when you'll get image, you'll be resolving other obvious bugs in your stuff |
| 15:25.44 | Laibsch | So, theoretically, this problem can not exist ;-) |
| 15:26.18 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: lol. lazy you know who ;-) |
| 15:26.27 | slapin | slapin@slapin-nb:~/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/binutils$ grep PACKAGES * => binutils_2.17.50.0.1.bb:PACKAGES = "${PN} ${PN}-dev ${PN}-doc ${PN}-symlinks" |
| 15:26.32 | slapin | Laibsch, |
| 15:26.52 | slapin | Laibsch, see into includes |
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| 15:27.24 | slapin | Laibsch, my tree is clean - this machine is actually never seen OE.dev before |
| 15:27.52 | slapin | slapin@slapin-nb:~/OE/org.openembedded.dev$ mtn status |
| 15:27.52 | slapin | Current branch: org.openembedded.dev |
| 15:27.52 | slapin | Changes against parent 3909823d7e734624024ded918662eef22f0cef8c |
| 15:27.52 | slapin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.43 | Laibsch | slapin: you are looking at the wrong bb file |
| 15:29.49 | slapin | psokolovsky_, damn, I'm a bit busy, so I prefer it all being background ATM, I postpone all changes to evening, now I can do only things which don't need my brain |
| 15:29.53 | Laibsch | 50.0.5 should be included |
| 15:30.35 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:31.03 | slapin | Laibsch, grep require binutils-cross-sdk_2.17.50.0.5.bb |
| 15:31.03 | slapin | require binutils_${PV}.bb |
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| 15:31.49 | Laibsch | und was ist PV? |
| 15:32.00 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: a file rename in makefile doesn't take brain I guess. anyway, that's just fyi, so the next time you will have urge to ask "any news" 5 times a day, you knew how it is. So well, my concern is why we can't finish that trivial stuff in resonable time, now that only couple of one-liners left... |
| 15:32.01 | Laibsch | Sorry for the German |
| 15:32.37 | Laibsch | slapin: The PV is 2.17.50.0.5 |
| 15:32.51 | Laibsch | The chain of inclusion is as I posted earlier |
| 15:33.02 | Laibsch | Look at packages/binutils/binutils-cross-sdk_2.17.50.0.5.bb, packages/binutils/binutils_2.17.50.0.5.bb and packages/binutils/binutils.inc and you will see that PACKAGES is not hardcoded, so -dbg PACKAGE should be there |
| 15:33.14 | slapin | Laibsch, try rebuiding - for mereproduces 100% |
| 15:33.24 | Laibsch | from (17:24:47) |
| 15:33.59 | Laibsch | slapin: no, I don't either have the problem nor the CPU cycles to spare |
| 15:34.28 | Laibsch | I was just saying that theoretically it should not be there. |
| 15:34.37 | slapin | Laibsch, thanks |
| 15:34.43 | Laibsch | I guess it *is* there for you practically |
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| 15:35.46 | slapin | psokolovsky_, you bastard, remember what you did answer me for my problems several times, so please don't mind waiting a few hours. |
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| 15:36.49 | slapin | Laibsch, why it adds 2 -dbg packages of the same name then? |
| 15:37.03 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: I'm waiting for few days already ;-E - for one-liner! |
| 15:38.01 | slapin | psokolovsky_, you said 2 days for solving trivial bug is not too much time,so please wait ~ 1 hour or less. |
| 15:38.03 | Laibsch | slapin: My answer remains the same. I don't know. Looking at the bb file there is nothing in there that should make it do so. |
| 15:41.11 | slapin | could somebody try to reproduce? pull from mtn and build of binutils-cross-sdk is enough. |
| 15:48.34 | slapin | psokolovsky_, pull |
| 15:49.50 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: cool, thanks |
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| 15:50.20 | slapin | Laibsch, any ideas on how to debug that |
| 15:51.11 | slapin | Laibsch, btw, it is not clearly bin path - it is something like binutils-cross-sdk/usr/local/arm/oe/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin |
| 15:51.38 | Crofton | theBrave, ping |
| 15:54.50 | slapin | psokolovsky_, could you please try building binutils-cross-sdk for me? |
| 15:55.59 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: nope, sorry, other stuff. also, I don't see how it relates to image building. |
| 15:58.38 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: generally, what's the state of support of omap palms? |
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| 15:58.56 | theBrave | well Crofton, compilation failed because defconfig were missing, so i created the directory and copied the one from 2.6.20, another compilation is en route |
| 15:59.28 | Crofton | ok, so it sounds like you have solved the basic problem |
| 15:59.42 | Crofton | at some point I think you will get interested in BBCOLLECTIONS |
| 15:59.57 | slapin | psokolovsky_, donno with current kernel, previous one was 'mostly working' |
| 16:00.14 | theBrave | now I fear to have conflicts with versions of headers, glibc... |
| 16:00.20 | slapin | psokolovsky_, you could ask balrog-kun and Marex on #hackndev |
| 16:00.31 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: where's official hacking happens? did you guys submitted everything to linux-omap? |
| 16:00.39 | theBrave | Crofton, where can I find info about BBCOLLECTIONS ? |
| 16:01.18 | slapin | psokolovsky_, balrog-kun commits all work to omap-linux mail list |
| 16:01.27 | slapin | psokolovsky_, not sure for others |
| 16:01.51 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: well, you hacked on omap too, right? what about *your* work? |
| 16:02.38 | slapin | psokolovsky_, I never had omap palm, so never hacked omap _palm_. |
| 16:02.48 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: ok, I see |
| 16:02.58 | slapin | psokolovsky_, as for n770/n800 feel free to ask. |
| 16:03.05 | Crofton | theBrave, http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch04s02.html#id870544 |
| 16:03.30 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: well, I just wonder if it would make sense to import omap patches into hh.org tree... |
| 16:03.33 | slapin | psokolovsky_, not sure if I help, though, because I solved quite minor problem there. |
| 16:03.47 | slapin | psokolovsky_, ask balrog-kun |
| 16:04.03 | Crofton | I'm off |
| 16:05.11 | slapin | psokolovsky_, feel free to import z72, too :) |
| 16:05.35 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: well, nope, you feel free to submit it ;-) |
| 16:06.36 | slapin | psokolovsky_, then I will have to change it to your preverted thoughts on how it should work. Othervise it will be vice versa :-P |
| 16:06.51 | Marex | slapin, about what? |
| 16:07.16 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: well nope, you would need to upgrade it to the latest common standards, that's all |
| 16:07.21 | slapin | Marex, ? |
| 16:07.26 | Marex | <slapin> psokolovsky_, you could ask balrog-kun and Marex on #hackndev |
| 16:08.08 | slapin | psokolovsky_, ah, it now is called this way. could I have a link, please? |
| 16:08.17 | slapin | Marex, backlog |
| 16:08.48 | slapin | Marex, <psokolovsky_> slapin: well, I just wonder if it would make sense to import omap patches into hh.org tree... |
| 16:09.16 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/ ? |
| 16:10.13 | slapin | psokolovsky_, I don't see any common standards there. |
| 16:10.53 | Marex | slapin, it'd be useless imo |
| 16:10.58 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: that's why I suggest that you submit your patches, they will be reviewed, and you'll get suggestions, if any |
| 16:11.00 | slapin | psokolovsky_, so mine will apply, and you can fetch palmz72 support. |
| 16:11.41 | slapin | psokolovsky_, not interested ATM, since it will be additional burden to what I have now. Maybe late November... |
| 16:12.22 | slapin | Marex, useless to what? |
| 16:12.31 | psokolovsky_ | as you see fit - there's enough work to do to current hh.org tree either |
| 16:12.51 | Marex | it'd be quite complicated to import -omap and the profit wont be too big |
| 16:12.54 | slapin | psokolovsky_, I think so. |
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| 16:13.16 | slapin | Marex, I'm not interested at all - talk to psokolovsky_ |
| 16:13.34 | Marex | psokolovsky_, four lines above |
| 16:14.36 | psokolovsky_ | Marex: well, profit should be obvious - ability to have well-supported devices in one place. worth depends on maintenance available |
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| 16:17.10 | slapin | psokolovsky_, it should be maintained in tree, which adds burden to both tree and device maintainer. |
| 16:17.59 | slapin | psokolovsky_, did hh.org managed to maintain mainline upstream policy? |
| 16:18.55 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: well, I'm talking this comparing with offshot ports like h6300, htctornado, palmte2, etc - they are separate crappy forky trees overburdened with themselves already |
| 16:19.03 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: which policy? |
| 16:19.53 | slapin | psokolovsky_, upstream policy (hh,org -> linus, or rmk, or mm) |
| 16:20.21 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: which exactly fscken policy? |
| 16:20.43 | slapin | psokolovsky_, we discussed it some time ago |
| 16:21.35 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: well, then you should know that hh.org stuff is slowly pushed upstream - and that's how it was all the time... |
| 16:22.10 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: .23 should have power subsys, which is comaintained by bd2 for example |
| 16:24.49 | slapin | psokolovsky_, ok, then nothing to argue about. |
| 16:25.49 | koen | heh, nico's post is awesome |
| 16:26.13 | psokolovsky_ | slapin: yes, except that of you submitted z72 to hh.org, you'd have your maintenance chores on it alleviated, and you'd have more time to join with overall upstreaming efforts ;-) |
| 16:28.21 | zcordes | CoreDump|home, could you help me with the v4l kernel patch again? |
| 16:29.19 | slapin | psokolovsky_, I agree, of course, but I'm not that ambitious at the moment. |
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| 16:29.32 | CoreDump|home | zcordes: what is it? |
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| 16:31.21 | zcordes | CoreDump|home, I don't know how to apply it. I changed the defconf-akita file but it still doesn't bak gspca |
| 16:31.44 | CoreDump|home | you need to rebuild your kernel first |
| 16:32.12 | CoreDump|home | bitbake -c rebuild virtual/kernel |
| 16:32.20 | zcordes | ah i seel |
| 16:32.47 | zcordes | I did something that made a zimage |
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| 16:46.20 | psokolovsky_ | koen: btw, can we add cross-compiler for adhoc targets, like arm-wince-pe? possibly, not as full-fledged target, but just as arm-wince-pe-gcc-native recipe, and some otehr recipe which needs it explcitly sets CC to it. |
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| 16:47.05 | koen | why not? |
| 16:47.25 | koen | OE waqs designed to run without a MACHINE set, so ad-hoc targets aren't a problem |
| 16:47.27 | chouimat | this http://developer.berlios.de/projects/cegcc/ ? |
| 16:47.29 | koen | -q |
| 16:47.35 | mickey_fic | ok, that .dev build looks not too bad on the Neo |
| 16:48.36 | koen | mickey_fic: bluetooth actually works due to /var being preserved |
| 16:49.53 | mickey_fic | ya, seen some nasty old bugs fixed |
| 16:50.04 | psokolovsky_ | chouimat: yep, except they moved to sf.ner afaik |
| 16:50.12 | chouimat | psokolovsky_: k |
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| 16:50.20 | mickey_fic | ok, so the plan is: i will bring .dev up to speed with all non-intrusive changes |
| 16:50.20 | psokolovsky_ | koen: ok, nice, I'll try to add cegcc recipe |
| 16:50.26 | mickey_fic | then branch off |
| 16:51.58 | koen | mickey_fic: I'd wait a bit with branching off |
| 16:52.41 | mickey_fic | ... ? |
| 16:53.11 | koen | you're exluding yourself from bugfixes, so better wait a week or two with branching off |
| 16:53.29 | mickey_fic | ah well, not that short anyway |
| 16:53.56 | koen | at least till the openmoko stuff in .dev is know to work |
| 16:54.17 | zecke | that makes sense |
| 16:54.37 | zcordes | is there a networkmanager in the feeds which can process wpa? |
| 16:55.03 | koen | mickey_fic: switching to eabi as well? |
| 16:55.12 | Zero_Chaos | zcordes: wpa_supplicant |
| 16:55.27 | mickey_fic | koen: yes. makes no sense not to sync big changes |
| 16:55.45 | mickey_fic | basically taking angstrom-eabi as template |
| 16:55.46 | mickey_fic | and just adding some custom stuff |
| 16:56.05 | mickey_fic | hopefully even just 'requireing angstrom' |
| 16:57.00 | zcordes | Zero_Chaos, isn't there anything guish? |
| 16:57.08 | mickey_fic | then finally .dev can benefit from my work again phew |
| 16:57.30 | Zero_Chaos | zcordes: I think there is a gui included yes |
| 16:57.57 | zcordes | Zero_Chaos, how is that called? |
| 16:58.47 | Zero_Chaos | wpa_gui ? |
| 16:59.11 | zcordes | that does not run |
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| 16:59.21 | zcordes | could not connect to wpa_supplicant |
| 16:59.23 | mickey_fic | hi mr. balister |
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| 16:59.52 | Zero_Chaos | zcordes: no offense, but it looks like it's time to read about wpa_supplicant and wpa_gui so you can learn how to use it |
| 17:00.03 | zcordes | ok |
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| 17:06.57 | zcordes | I can't understand why wpa is so complicated |
| 17:07.03 | zcordes | to configure |
| 17:07.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2483 has been created by treitmayr@yahoo.com |
| 17:07.06 | cdbot2 | * * Perl 5.8.8 (r20) does not build (slugosbe) |
| 17:07.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2483 |
| 17:07.26 | zcordes | how about a gui where you just se |
| 17:07.46 | zcordes | select wpa and type in the key |
| 17:12.07 | CoreDump|home | wpa is as easy to configure as WEP |
| 17:12.40 | Zero_Chaos | CoreDump|home: iwconfig wlan0 key s:mywepkey |
| 17:12.49 | Zero_Chaos | CoreDump|home: I'm guessing wpa is harder than that |
| 17:13.50 | CoreDump|home | Zero_Chaos: the entries for WPA and WEP in /e/n/interfaces are very similar |
| 17:33.38 | CIA-3 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbc143956... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): pulseaudio: beautify pulse.inc, add gcc4 compliance patch, make 0.9.6 the new default |
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| 17:47.21 | Zero_Chaos | bug in cups in packaging. fails to create /var/run/cups/certs |
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| 17:50.54 | Zero_Chaos | failure is because image/var/run/cups/certs has 511 for permissions I think |
| 17:51.07 | Zero_Chaos | yup, that fixed it |
| 17:51.47 | mickey_fic | anyone with an idea why a FILES_${PN}-dbg = "something" statement gets erased in the process? |
| 17:51.55 | mickey_fic | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.02 | mickey_fic | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.57 | Laibsch | mickey_fic: What package? |
| 17:57.29 | mickey_fic | python-dbus |
| 17:57.29 | Laibsch | lemme take alook |
| 17:57.47 | mickey_fic | whereas distutils-base clearly shows the proper entry |
| 17:57.48 | mickey_fic | :/ |
| 17:57.55 | mickey_fic | thanks for looking, bedtime here |
| 17:57.56 | mickey_fic | (02:00) |
| 17:57.58 | mickey_fic | cya |
| 17:58.25 | Laibsch | oh, still taipei? |
| 17:58.35 | Laibsch | well, of course, the fic should tell |
| 17:58.44 | Laibsch | I thought you had already made it back |
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| 18:22.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 2484 has been created by pmiscml@gmail.com |
| 18:22.06 | cdbot2 | * * rootfs_ipk: Do not hardcode dependency on ipkg |
| 18:22.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2484 |
| 18:22.37 | chouimat | LOL http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Think-of-the-Children.aspx |
| 18:35.04 | cdbot2 | * * OE Bug 1184 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz |
| 18:35.06 | cdbot2 | * * build of gtkmm-2.4.8 fails - time for removal? |
| 18:35.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1184 |
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| 18:57.21 | timtimred | um, bitbake 1.8 seems to decide to not build some dependancies |
| 18:57.28 | timtimred | anyone else encountered this? |
| 18:57.38 | timtimred | i can recreate it too. |
| 18:58.18 | timtimred | wrote a build server last weekend and this seems to be the cause of most issues so far |
| 18:58.58 | timtimred | anyway, ive reverted to 1.6 and it works... |
| 18:59.20 | psokolovsky_ | timtimred: you should use latest 1.8.x |
| 18:59.46 | timtimred | i just want the most stable version for the build server. |
| 19:00.23 | timtimred | the one i checked out was.... |
| 19:00.23 | CIA-3 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rdf7f4995... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libgsmd: add two universal patches, bump PR |
| 19:01.04 | timtimred | http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1. |
| 19:01.08 | timtimred | http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.8 |
| 19:01.28 | timtimred | so do i need to be pulling a trunk version for this? |
| 19:02.10 | timtimred | is there a critical reason to be using 1.8? |
| 19:04.30 | timtimred | its odd, it only happened on certain packages - just completely ignored any DEPENDS |
| 19:10.47 | psokolovsky_ | timtimred: no, trunk is not suitable. anyway, I'm using 1.6 myself too ;-D |
| 19:11.54 | timtimred | heh, mmk. maybe i should go find the bitbake bugtracker and scour it |
| 19:11.58 | timtimred | thanks ;) |
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| 19:14.36 | mgwa | hello. i have problem with my git and the hint for ubuntu users - like me - in the faq is no solution for me. git can not be executet with th parameters pull for example. |
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| 19:15.31 | mgwa | someone already had the same problems? is there a solution? |
| 19:17.14 | Crofton | dash versus bash? |
| 19:18.42 | mgwa | no. /bin/sh is linked to bash |
| 19:19.00 | mgwa | i have had this error some days ago ;) |
| 19:21.24 | mgwa | the problem ist, that there are a lot of git-* files in my bin dir, but oe trys to execute git pull ... for example |
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| 19:44.24 | Laibsch | slapin: compiling the sdk does not even complete the do_compile stage for me. |
| 19:53.57 | Zero_Chaos | why does the crappy svn fetcher not update every time I ask it to build? |
| 19:54.11 | CIA-3 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r04eba7c7... 10/ (1 packages/gsm/files/universal-wcdma.patch): libgsmd: really add second universal patch |
| 19:54.18 | CIA-3 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r781103c3... 10/ (1 packages/gsm/files/htcuniversal/default): libgsmd: update /etc/default/gsmd for universa, use the -w switch |
| 19:56.39 | zecke | pH5: why do we need external patches? :) |
| 19:57.28 | pH5 | zecke: because harald is too busy to look at them upstream, currently. they are all on the gsmd-devel list, too. |
| 19:59.55 | zecke | okay I'm not going to ask why he is too busy |
| 20:08.07 | pH5 | I wouldn't know. It's just my impression :) |
| 20:08.59 | ljp | because a day doesn't have 36 hours in it? |
| 20:09.23 | zecke | ljp: well, we are working on it |
| 20:10.45 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Just tell me if you have reached the 30h limit |
| 20:11.02 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: no, I have watched futurama |
| 20:11.15 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: btw, got my botmail about the other guy working on webkit/gtk? |
| 20:11.18 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: we just have to create co2 emitting roboters (a lot of them) |
| 20:12.11 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: nope, Alp Toker? |
| 20:12.14 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: heh |
| 20:12.14 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: yes |
| 20:12.14 | stefan_schmidt | So you already know, good. |
| 20:12.14 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: been working with him for the last couple of weeks. |
| 20:12.22 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: nice |
| 20:12.23 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: he mostly does cairo stuff, I try to do frontend, API, curl (well he did a curl patch lately) and push the patches for review |
| 20:12.50 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: So you see GSoC is hard work. :) |
| 20:13.06 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: this week I'm a bit busy hacking a XML Schema to Code compiler :} |
| 20:13.21 | jsheldon | anyone know what recipe writes /etc/version? |
| 20:13.25 | stefan_schmidt | ieek |
| 20:13.35 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: better than parsing XML by hand ;) |
| 20:13.56 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: For sure, but still I don't like it. :) |
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| 20:23.47 | Zero_Chaos | Okay, seriously, where can I find the svn fetcher? it needs help, NOW |
| 20:47.36 | hrw | morning |
| 20:47.44 | hrw | Zero_Chaos: bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/svn.py |
| 20:48.10 | Zero_Chaos | hrw: thanks |
| 20:49.38 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: FYI, just finished your survey about distributed pair programming. |
| 20:50.23 | Zero_Chaos | turns out, I can't read python at all |
| 20:50.26 | Zero_Chaos | good to know |
| 20:50.35 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: awesome :} |
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| 21:11.54 | mmp | hello, is there some package containing irdadump ? |
| 21:16.42 | hrw | yes |
| 21:16.48 | hrw | it is called irdadump |
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| 21:41.52 | Laibsch | ibot, botmail for florian: Erinnerung! |
| 21:44.43 | zecke | ja? |
| 21:49.34 | Laibsch | zecke: mediawiki |
| 21:49.52 | zecke | I HATE LDAP |
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| 22:11.18 | CIA-3 | 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * ra59cc92c... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:11.18 | CIA-3 | gpe-mini-browser : add new 0.21 release and remove some obsolete ones |
| 22:11.18 | CIA-3 | add packages/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser_0.21.bb |
| 22:11.18 | CIA-3 | remove packages/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser_0.11.bb |
| 22:11.18 | CIA-3 | remove packages/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser_0.14.bb |
| 22:12.02 | Philippe | zecke: gpe-mini-browser2 hopefully will be with your webkit stuff. I am counting on you! |
| 22:12.23 | Philippe | btw I heard that it is already in OE. Is that correct? With a demo browser? |
| 22:15.39 | zecke | Philippe: you need some luck (not having built pcre before) and then you might build it |
| 22:15.59 | zecke | Philippe: otherwise install the deps and run WebKitBuild/Scripts/build-webkit --gdk |
| 22:16.25 | Philippe | zecke: so not in OE yet? |
| 22:16.47 | zecke | Philippe: it is in OE (package/webkit) but you need some luck to build it |
| 22:17.04 | Philippe | zecke: ok. I'll see if I get lucky. |
| 22:17.11 | Philippe | thanks very much |
| 22:18.01 | hrw | bye |
| 22:18.18 | Philippe | night hrw |
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