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00:02.29CIA-303polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r1a91225e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
00:02.29CIA-3uqtreader: opie-reader made for qt4-x11
00:02.30CIA-3the very first successfull attempt to get it running on qt4-x11.
00:02.30CIA-3very dirty, but working, patch.
00:07.52polyonymousnigh everyone
00:08.19Marexgnight polyonymous ... btw one more bug down :b
00:08.27Marexthis is pretty nasty though
00:15.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2437 has been created by marek.vasut@gmail.com
00:15.07cdbot2* * libqte-opie wont compile with uclibc
00:15.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2437
00:18.36rshakinhey can someone do me a fav and send me their ipkg.conf for collie
00:18.56rshakinif someone actually has one since i just deleted mine on accident
00:20.23Marexcan anyone tell me why opie-image requires X ? :-/
00:21.51v8jlenegood morning
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00:22.47crinkMarex: because gpe or opie depend on kdrive
00:25.03Marexcrink, why do you think its called opie image? :b
00:25.27Marexprobably because the image contains opie ... and opie doesnt depend on X ... so? :b
00:25.57crinkMarex: because opie isn't bootstrap-image or angstrom-console-image..
00:26.06crinks/opie/opie-image/
00:26.28Marexcrink, and?
00:26.32crinkthat is all.
00:26.47Marexahm ... I think you or I missed something
00:27.20crinkgpe is gtk + console-image(rootfs+kernel), opie is qt+console-image
00:27.34crinkincluding wm
00:28.14Marexopie is qte + console-image
00:28.21crinkyes
00:28.23Marexwhich means it should NOT depend on X libs
00:28.30crinkno
00:28.40Marexcrink, GPE is useless on slow devices btw
00:28.44Marexcrink, yes
00:29.56crinkdirectfb/svgalib/fbui/linuxfb/ggi/etc is only without-x and with-gtk/qt
00:30.02crinkiirc
00:30.30crinkhave to go, my serial terminal state is not normal, try to reboot.
00:30.36crinkbb
00:30.39Marexopie doesnt depend on qt-x11 :-/
00:30.54Marexqt/e and qt-x11 is something different
00:30.59Marexopie runs without X
00:31.08hvontres|poodleMarex: I think task-base or somebody else pulls in X11 during the build
00:31.10crinkMarex: perhaps
00:31.36Marexcrink, for sure ... geez
00:32.37crinkwill be back soon
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00:32.50CIA-303lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r98d522eb... 10/ (1 packages/rp-pppoe/rp-pppoe_3.8.bb):
00:32.50CIA-3rp-pppoe 3.8: The server needs to depends on the client since it uses the
00:32.50CIA-3client to perform all the comms once a session has been established.
00:33.45Marexopie-remove -> lirc
00:33.46Marex:E
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02:52.02CIA-303mwester 07org.oe.dev * rc6fbef1b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): unslung-kernel: defconfig - enable input, hid, and hiddev kernel modules.
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03:48.13lindenleHi im trying to build mpd and it is hanging on NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.musicpd.org/mpd;module=trunk;proto=https ... any ideas?
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04:01.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2438 has been created by carbonfreeze@gmail.com
04:01.06cdbot2* * angstrom 20070604 ipkg update fails on gstreamer feed
04:01.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2438
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04:16.06cdbot2* * OE Bug 2439 has been created by alex@lindenlevy.com
04:16.06cdbot2* * mpd build hangs at svn check out
04:16.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2439
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04:25.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2439 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by alex@lindenlevy.com
04:25.06cdbot2* *  mpd build hangs at svn check out
04:25.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2439
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04:44.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2338 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2110 by carbonfreeze@gmail.com
04:44.06cdbot2* *  display-brightness.sh is missing
04:44.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2338
04:56.06aanishndid any respond to my query ? I couldn't see since net went down
04:57.01carbonfreezeI didn't even see your q
04:58.24aanishncarbonfreeze: it was about caliberating; how can I get the initial data to put in /etc/pointercal
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05:01.18carbonfreezeaanishn: I have not had to use calibrate since 200705 images, try xtscal?
05:01.57carbonfreezeaanishn: If you need entries for pointercal try http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/AngstromPointercals
05:04.29aanishncarbonfreeze: ok. thanks. let me see the link
05:05.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2440 has been created by carbonfreeze@gmail.com
05:05.06cdbot2* * "Multiple replacers for atd,  using first one (at-doc)" during ipkg upgrade
05:05.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2440
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05:26.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2441 has been created by carbonfreeze@gmail.com
05:26.06cdbot2* * ipkg install md5sum badness
05:26.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2441
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06:15.45CIA-303lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r0bb26a96... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
06:15.45CIA-3rp-pppoe 3.8: Fix issues caused by autoconf needing to run in the src
06:15.45CIA-3subdirectory of the source code. The OE autotools.bbclass runs the autoconf
06:15.45CIA-3stuff in ${S}, so you need to change ${S} to the src subdirectory to get it
06:15.45CIA-3to work. But ${S} is also where patches are appplied, so you can't patch the
06:15.45CIA-3config files and other things which aren't in the src directory. So add some
06:15.49CIA-3autoconf at the top level which just says there's a sub-autoconf project in
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06:30.00Laibsc1good morning!
06:35.21Laibschpolyonymous_: qt4-x11-free fails do_compile for me even after cleaning out tmp.  You must have some local changes to make it build.
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06:51.14lindenlehow do i tell bitbake to build a different version i.e. not svn mpd?
06:51.46NAbysslindenle: Set the preferred version for it in your local.conf
06:52.04NAbyssFor example..
06:52.12NAbyssPREFERRED_VERSION_binutils-cross = "2.16"
06:52.58lindenleok
06:54.06CIA-303lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r06a8528d... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml):
06:54.06CIA-3usermanual: Rename the sample in the recipes chapter from helloworld to
06:54.06CIA-3myhelloworld since someone committed a helloworld recipe to OE and that's
06:54.06CIA-3now where the documentation was saying to put this example.
06:56.10lindenleNAbyss:  trying it now
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07:11.34CIA-303lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r945723a3... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): usermanual/recipes: Put some basic info in the classes section.
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07:14.51Laibschlindenle: You can also say on the command line "bitbake foo-1.2.3"
07:15.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2442 has been created by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz
07:15.07cdbot2* * qt4-x11-free fails do_compile
07:15.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2442
07:16.03CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r2415386a... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: fix typo in feeds, closes #2438
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07:20.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2438 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz
07:20.07cdbot2* *  angstrom 20070604 ipkg update fails on gstreamer feed
07:20.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2438
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07:21.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2443 has been created by jake@cogini.com
07:21.07cdbot2* * QA failure for .debug directory in python-cheetah
07:21.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2443
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07:31.54slapin_nb!oebug 2444
07:31.56cdbot2* * Bug 2444, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-08 00:30
07:31.57cdbot2* * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: usb-gadget-mode build failure
07:31.58cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2444
07:32.06cdbot2* * OE Bug 2444 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com
07:32.09cdbot2* * usb-gadget-mode build failure
07:32.11cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2444
07:33.39slapin_nbhi, all!
07:34.01slapin_nbsomebody please look into 2444 - it is trivial fix.
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07:38.26pelle2004I can't subscribe to http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel, I get no mail-reply.
07:38.40pelle2004Is it not open fore normal user of OE?
07:39.47Laibschpelle2004: Sure it is open
07:40.00LaibschIf nothing else works you can also read it via gmane.org
07:41.00pelle2004I'm having problems building perl-5.8.8-r10 on Fedora Core 6 and needs to post some issues..
07:43.05cdbot2* * OE Bug 2444 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz
07:43.07cdbot2* *  usb-gadget-mode build failure
07:43.09cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2444
07:43.13Laibschpelle2004: You can also sent mail to the list via gmane.org
07:43.22Laibschslapin_nb: There you go!
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07:43.38pelle2004I check gmane.org
07:44.07slapin_nbLaibsch, thanks a lot!
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07:49.50v8jlenepelle2004: I've read you email, but I'm a bit out of ideas. It's not working because of that LD_LIBRARY_PATH thing.... and this is just a normal perl build, no special OE stuff for perl-native. Have you tried rebuild the perl src.rpm on FC6 to make sure that works?
07:50.17v8jleneor even just untar and manually build the perl source
07:50.57pelle2004No I have not tryed any default for FC6
07:51.33CIA-303lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r59869e48... 10/ (1 usermanual/chapters/recipes.xml): usermanual/recipes: Fill in some details in the staging section.
07:53.13v8jlenepelle2004: It's perl-native your having problems with, not perl and basically all OE is doing is running the standard perl configure and make.
07:53.34v8jlenepelle2004: Probably worth checking if there's any related patches or dependencies on the src.rpm for perl on FC6. It could be an issue with the version of make for example.
07:54.44pelle2004v8jlene: I can try building for FC6 nativ. But if that is done as root user it will work. My problem is LD_LIBRARY_PATH is cleared for not root users. I'm building all cross as not root users.
07:56.11v8jlenepelle2004: Yes, you should never build as root. Note that this applies to src.rpm's as well as OE... that's why I'm wondering if the src.rpm build works.
07:57.55pelle2004v8jlene: I test src.rpm as not root user if it works .....
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08:11.25XorAmorning
08:13.13carbonfreezeevening
08:14.18CIA-303Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rc2e26b8e... 10/ (8 files in 5 dirs): move bitstream-vera fonts to ttf-fonts and qpf-fonts respectively.
08:14.26CIA-303Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re6622d3a... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): anstrom-2007.1.conf: enable altboot for spitz after successful test.
08:14.31CIA-303Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r8e0a5512... 10/ (1 packages/usb-gadget-mode/usb-gadget-mode.bb): usb-gadge-mode: Create /etc/default in do_install. Closes 2444.
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08:26.57XorALaibsch: please fix you merge fuckup in usb-gadget-mode
08:27.06XorALaibsch: I already fixed 2444 long before it was reported
08:27.46XorALaibsch: and you have undone my other work on that file
08:28.14XorALaibsch: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2007-June/005942.html
08:32.25LaibschXorA: Sure
08:32.27LaibschAlready done
08:32.41LaibschXorA: I just found out the report was invalid
08:32.51LaibschI reinstated your work
08:32.54LaibschTake it easy!
08:33.30LaibschActually already done locally before CIA-3 reported my commit
08:33.32XorALaibsch: I wasnt stressed, just hoping you hadnt done a commit and run :-)
08:33.47LaibschI always commit, duck and run!
08:33.58XorALaibsch: its just easier/quicker to shout here than email
08:34.09koenwhy does usbgadget mode have a MAINTAINER?
08:34.13Laibschquicker yes
08:34.17Laibschbut no need to shout
08:34.18koendid we reomve that filed eons ago?
08:34.19Laibsch;-)
08:34.37XorALaibsch: always need to SHOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D
08:34.45CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r4cd70362... 10/ (1 packages/usb-gadget-mode/usb-gadget-mode.bb): disapproval of revision '8e0a5512f90f14af5dfc892a6ad54499b93850da'
08:34.53Laibschkoen: no!
08:35.09Laibschwell, this log is certainly gonna look funny ;-)
08:35.31Laibschmtn log packages/usb-gadget-mode/
08:35.57Laibschkoen: As I said I had already pushed the change
08:36.28koenyou didn't, it wasn't in the repo when I disapproved it
08:37.29Laibschkoen: Yes I did
08:37.42LaibschAnd it sometimes takes a while to propagate
08:37.46LaibschI guess you know that
08:38.00CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r33d2e288... 10/ (1 packages/usb-gadget-mode/usb-gadget-mode.bb): usbgadget: remove MAINTAINER field and bogus HOMEPAGE
08:38.01LaibschAnyways
08:38.04koenthat's nonsense
08:38.13koena commit is in the repo or not
08:38.16LaibschOh, there goes koen again
08:38.29LaibschWell, it is in the repos now.
08:44.14XorAso if we have an OE foundation we can put a rocket in Koens arse according to zecke :-D
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08:52.34pelle2004Can I tell bitbake to only do checkout source and not start any configure or build.
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08:54.29Laibschpelle2004: Read the docs
08:54.33Laibschbitbake -c fetch
08:54.41Laibschbitbake -c fetch $package
08:54.57CIA-303Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * re538d871... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
08:54.57CIA-3python-pyqt4: update to version 4.2
08:54.58CIA-3fixes unfetchable source. No further changes.
08:54.58CIA-3untested until bug 2442 has been closed.
08:55.01hrwmorning
08:55.08pelle2004Laibsch, Thanks
08:56.21Laibschpelle2004: You can also fetch package and all its dependencies
08:56.26Laibsch-c fetchall
08:56.29Laibschthanks to hrw
08:56.35LaibschGood morning, hrw!
08:56.44hrwLaibsch: fetchall was added by RP
08:57.09Laibschhrw: Oh, somebody it was you who created it.
08:57.33LaibschWell, then, -c fetchall brought to you by RP
08:58.03hrwXorA: does cxx00 can use bl08 battery? (big one from c7x0/poodle)
08:58.05koenaha
08:58.06koenhttp://svnweb.openmoko.org/trunk/oe/packages/openmoko-base/openmoko-sound-system_0.1.0.bb?rev=2192&view=markup
08:58.19koenmickeyl doesn't understand debian.bbclass
08:58.32XorAhrw: bl11
08:58.55hrwXorA: I know that is use bl11
08:59.14XorAhrw: never tried my bl08 as its fairly fucked after 4 years
08:59.45hrwXorA: on #openzaurus guy asked about it and you are the one with both ;)
09:00.01carbonfreezeXora: you know where to get a cheap bl11 that wont explode?
09:00.09zeckerwhitby: thanks for the answer, I had hoped you would reply
09:00.31hrwhttp://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6411920648.html
09:00.42XorAcarbonfreeze: nope
09:00.57zeckeLaibsch: I don't want some one to have +50k on his private account
09:01.20zeckeLaibsch: really, this guy either turns sane/insane or will have issues with his tax authorities
09:01.52XorAhrw: I think it should do, it looks same size
09:02.26Laibschzecke: OK, that is indeed a valid argument
09:02.44Laibschzecke: Do we already have +50k? ;-)
09:02.59Laibschzecke: Any news/rumours in that respect?
09:04.43zeckeLaibsch: no new ones
09:05.07zeckeLaibsch: I would even apply this to 10k :)
09:05.31LaibschWell, we'd need to get to that first
09:05.44LaibschI was amazed by the numbers rwhitby has racked up
09:06.47zeckeimaging you have 10k on your bank account, for some reason the financial authroties scan your accounts and wonder why you don't declare this money
09:07.08zeckeLaibsch: as paypal gets a real 'bank' this will even happen to paypal accounts
09:07.45koenzecke: in .nl the tax office scans your accounts twice a year
09:10.01Laibschscan your accounts?  I thought that there was still some kind of limit to this, like a judge ordering it.  Have we really lost all rights to privacy now?
09:10.27hrwthen maybe let create OE org in Swiss?
09:10.50XorAId suggest luxemburg, as paypal are moving there, there must be some dodgy hole they exploit
09:10.53CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * re0c43526... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/libatomics-ops_1.2.bb): libatomic ops 1.2: add it
09:10.57LaibschAnything seems better than .de at the moment
09:11.32koenLaibsch: dunno, but keep in mind that money in itself is a goverment thing
09:14.37zeckeLaibsch: not in germany
09:15.31zeckeLaibsch: OpenMoko needs help on asian input methods
09:16.03Laibschzecke: I have no device
09:16.41LaibschAnd I am helping them by getting stuff into OE
09:17.29Laibschzecke: Any "official" request for help?
09:17.59zeckeLaibsch: Watch Harald's and Sean's video at google.video
09:18.05LaibschI had tought that with them being based in .tw, they would easily have the input support incorporated
09:18.20zeckeLaibsch:  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984
09:18.33Laibschthanks
09:18.37zeckeLaibsch: the one sentence is more at the end of the video
09:19.12LaibschWell, I don' think I can do much without a device
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09:20.49koenLaibsch: ask for one
09:26.47CIA-303koen 07org.oe.dev * r27190fff... 10/ (1 packages/usb-gadget-mode/usb-gadget-mode.bb): usb-gadget-mode: s/PACKAGE_ARCH = $MACHINE/PACKAGE_ARCH = $MACHINE_ARCH/
09:27.49XorALaibsch: but the .tw guys are not too hot on the old software front :-)
09:28.14XorALaibsch: you should just email to the lists volunteering, and see if you get lucky with a P1 flying to you
09:29.32XorALaibsch: its going to be a challenge as the interface on P1 is so damn slow at the minute
09:29.38koenthis heat is frying my brain
09:29.46XorAkoen: how hot?
09:30.28koenthe thermometer says "low battery"
09:30.46XorAkoen: I dont want it too hot for the next week
09:30.49XorAkoen: I hate hot
09:30.51koenI suspect 25 degrees with too much himudity
09:31.01koenand bad spelling
09:31.49Sup3rkiddokoen, 25 degrees?!!..its hate 36 here, my dear friend
09:32.26koenthe 40 degrees in arizona was acceptable as well
09:32.33koenbut that was a dry heat
09:32.58koenheat is only acceptable if there are chicks in bikini around
09:33.05Sup3rkiddokoen, its always "Wet" heat over here..monsoons have started, and i live in a rain shadow region..beat that
09:36.59XorASup3rkiddo: I live in Scotland, all we have is rain
09:37.26crinkXorA: no sun?
09:37.42XorAcrink: I think I saw a yellow thing in the sky a few months back :-)
09:37.57crink:|
09:39.04XorAwow using usb-ethernet is massively faster than g_ether
09:39.11XorAhow does that happen
09:39.41hrwXorA: no emulation of ethernet in software?
09:42.32XorAhrw: bl08 fits in CXX00 device
09:43.25XorAhrw: its flat though so device didnt boot
09:43.32hrwthx
09:43.57XorAseems to be only difference is 100mAh
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09:46.41Laibschkoen, XorA, zecke: Actually, I contacted the openmoko guys right when the first word came out.  And told them what I had done in OE and what my plans were.
09:46.49LaibschSean immediately told me "We'll get you a discounted phone for sure" which I had not expected and I thought was amazing since I did not feel I had contributed that much of significant stuff at that point in time.
09:46.57koencontact them again
09:47.07LaibschThen came the P0 phase and stuff and now I was told I don't get anything.
09:47.12LaibschOK, I will.
09:47.46XorALaibsch: the problem was P0 was basically buggered and threw a spanner into works
09:48.08XorALaibsch: and high levels of stress in openmoko project, but I think they are now calmer
09:48.17LaibschNo, I was saying that Sean's comment came at a time when there was not talk of cost-free phones but of discounts
09:48.25LaibschNow it is free phones for some
09:48.33LaibschFull pay for everybody else
09:48.58LaibschI never expected to enter the discount bracket
09:49.16LaibschI was quite aware I would not make the "fully free"-class
09:49.59XorAtoo many bloomin neos here
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10:37.27polyonymous_Laibsch, I definitely don't have local changes here and as I understand koen was also able to build qt4-x11 and he definitely doesn't share build environment with me :)
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10:47.14Laibschzecke: Where you referring to the part where Harald says that the Asian community so far has not contributed much and not picked up momentum?
10:48.01zeckeLaibsch: did he say that?
10:48.23zeckeLaibsch: I think referred to the part where he wants to show the asian input method and explains that the core team is from europe+argentina
10:50.14Laibschyes, that is what I meant as well
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10:55.44slapin_fsERROR: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (line 1) while parsing /home/slapin/openedhand/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/uqtreader_cvs.bb
10:55.49slapin_fsany ideas?
11:03.26polyonymoushmm.
11:04.17polyonymousslapin_fs, I think you can ignore it, but that's strange...
11:04.43polyonymouscould it be that uqtreader is too bashish?
11:05.17zecke|studypolyonymous: ?
11:05.36polyonymouszecke|study, or is it not parsed by bash?
11:05.50zecke|studypolyonymous: it is parsed by bitbake
11:05.52polyonymouszecke|study, I mean, what might be causing parse to fail for slapin_fs and not for me?
11:05.59polyonymouszecke|study, any idea then?
11:06.28polyonymouszecke|study, I thought that parts of it might be parsed by bash, but indeed that would be strange as it would be much longer :)
11:06.33zecke|studyhow hold is uqtreader? I can't stand packages hardcoding /usr/bin
11:06.59polyonymouszecke|study, my fault, I've hacked it really quick yesterday.
11:07.11polyonymouszecke|study, I'll fix it, but the question is still there.
11:07.53LaibschXorA: BTW, what did you mean "but the .tw guys are not too hot on the old software front"
11:08.05zecke|studypolyonymous: from a quick scan the file looks okay
11:08.32polyonymouszecke|study, but not for slapin_fs hmm...
11:08.53zecke|studyslapin_fs: what is the context of your error?
11:14.21zecke|studyslapin_fs: thanks for omitting the important information ;)
11:14.27polyonymous:)
11:14.38zecke|study${@base_set_filespath([ "/space/zecke_work/private/openmoko/build/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/uqtreader-${OPIE_CVS_PV}-r1", "/space/zecke_work/private/openmoko/build/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/uqtreader-${OPIE_CVS_PV}", "/space/zecke_work/private/openmoko/build/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/uqtreader", "/space/zecke_work/private/openmoko/build/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-reader/files", "/space/zecke_work/private/
11:15.07polyonymouswhat's this?
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11:15.48zecke|studypolyonymous: http://rafb.net/p/39YDVT70.html parse errors so far
11:15.59zecke|studypolyonymous: you might should disapprove your qt4 work ;)
11:16.45polyonymouszecke|study, huh...
11:16.53hrwzecke|study: where you got such sick code?
11:17.08polyonymoushrw, it's me who's sicko :)
11:17.17hrwpolyonymous: you perv!
11:17.36polyonymoushrw, running opie-reader on qt4-x11 is a perversion, no doubt :)
11:17.58polyonymouszecke|study, but you can't break it if it ain't fixed :)
11:18.16polyonymouswait
11:18.20polyonymousblame koen! :)
11:18.45polyonymousI think it's his last commit.
11:18.55polyonymous0efcec71b181f642ef8e3a01197e4c06abae4f56
11:18.56hrwpolyonymous: writing such usage of base_set_filespath is sick
11:19.08polyonymoushrw, that's not me!
11:19.25polyonymousthat's  bitbake, not my .bbs
11:19.30hrwah
11:19.50polyonymousand I'll fix koen's commit now, that should be no problem either.
11:20.02zecke|studyOMG I see tabs in qt4-x11
11:20.19Laibschzecke|study: in the bb file?
11:20.32polyonymousare they forbidden?
11:21.13Laibschpolyonymous: I think not forbidden but discouraged
11:21.15zecke|studypolyonymous: they are certainly forbidden when they were not used before
11:21.26Laibschpolyonymous: see policies in the wiki
11:21.47polyonymouszecke|study, I certainly didn't reformat existing .bb, but I didn't pay much attention to what characters are getting in, sorry.
11:21.48zecke|studypolyonymous: you might want to look into do_split_packages as well
11:22.24zecke|studythe guy who added -qdbus added tabs, same for -pch and -no-glib. What did you decide against glib?
11:22.24CIA-303polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rb72a6f6c... 10/ (1 packages/qt/qt4-x11-free_4.3.0.bb): qt 4.3.0: syntactical fix
11:22.44zecke|studyFILES_libqtscript,libqtdbus is using tabs as well
11:22.44polyonymouszecke|study, qt4 doesn't do well with gslice.
11:23.01polyonymousOkay, okay, I'm sorry, I'll remove tabs.
11:23.04zecke|studypixeltool, dbus as well
11:23.36polyonymousare tabs in {} blocks also discouraged?
11:23.37zecke|studyQT-NONDEV-PACKAGES why not QT_NONDEV_PACKAGES like with every other variable :)
11:23.56zecke|studypolyonymous: I would discourage them, but they are so many of them inside the qt4 file I won't argue against them
11:23.57polyonymouszecke|study, NONDEV-PACKAGES are koen's invention :)
11:24.24polyonymouszecke|study, I see absolutely no problem in removing every single tab there, if you think it's important.
11:24.27zecke|studypolyonymous: we all know koen has mental issues ;)
11:24.53polyonymousWell, okay, but I don't want to be blamed for his issues :) I have enough insanity of my own:)
11:25.03polyonymousas you can see :)
11:25.47zecke|studypolyonymous: let me guess you didn't add a checksum to checksums.ini? and before Laibsch complains automatically adding them defeats the trust model
11:26.05polyonymouszecke|study, I think I did.
11:26.17zecke|study<:)
11:26.32polyonymousyes, I did :-P
11:26.50zecke|studygood boy
11:26.51polyonymousplease-please only blame my faults on me :)
11:27.01polyonymousI sure you're not going to run out of them anytime soon.
11:27.08polyonymouss/I/I'm/
11:27.44polyonymouszecke|study, again, are tabs in {} blocks also discouraged?
11:28.21zecke|studypolyonymous: probably not
11:28.46Laibschzecke|study: I never proposed automatic additions.  Just a tool to make the addition as painless for the submitter as possible.
11:28.47polyonymousok. zecke|study do you have a quick answer why do you care about tabs at all?
11:29.00LaibschBecause otherwise it just ain't gonna happen
11:29.14polyonymousLaibsch, isn't it a matter of a very short script?
11:29.31zecke|studyLaibsch: well, one can make it mandantory but I like polyonymous answer
11:29.42zecke|studypolyonymous: they make my eyes bleeed
11:30.11polyonymouszecke|study, I'd rather fix the eyes then ;-) But well.
11:30.55zecke|studypolyonymous: they are strictly forbidden in python methods at least python () {} __anonfunc() {} in the _prepend and _append
11:31.10polyonymouszecke|study, ah, that's where it comes from...
11:31.24polyonymousYeah, python is a tablic enemy.
11:31.57Laibschpolyonymous, zecke|study: Well, then commit that script to contrib and announce it on the ML.  Why let everybody create it for themselves?
11:32.35polyonymousLaibsch, so that everyone's script will have his own shortcoming? Then we have a contest and the winner goes it contribs :)
11:32.46zecke|studyLaibsch: I don't have such a script
11:33.22polyonymousneither I do. I would have it if I added more checksums.
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11:36.49LaibschI don't either
11:36.49polyonymouswelcome to the club :)
11:36.49LaibschAnd until I do, I won't be committing checksums as I find it too cumbersome
11:36.49LaibschAnd monkey-job-like even for me
11:36.49polyonymousis it the only job you find cumbersome?
11:38.55koenpolyonymous: is QTPACKAGES used somewhere?
11:38.56LaibschNo
11:39.26Laibschno, not the onley one.  But the only one I can think of right now that I find cumbersome and meaningless to do in its current form.
11:39.26polyonymouskoen, PACKAGES += ?
11:39.49koenIf that's the only place it offends my sense of style :)
11:40.15polyonymouskoen, I think it was used elsewhere, why would I do it then...
11:40.30zecke|studyLaibsch: hmm I prefer to shut up on this and wait for a japanese hacker to change the tarball of an existing release
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11:40.41polyonymouskoen, could it be that I introduced it for exactly the same reason you introduced nondev?
11:40.50koenpolyonymous: could be :)
11:41.09polyonymouskoen, that would explain it all ;-) But don't worry, I'll rearrange it later.
11:41.32polyonymouskoen, btw, I have a screenshot of reader, but my shell has troubles with ssh now so I can't upload it.
11:41.38Laibschzecke|study: What does the Japanese hacker have to do with this?
11:43.31zecke|studyLaibsch: because this is something you care for
11:45.20Laibschzecke|study: I still don't get it.  Are you implying that the Japanese are not active enough in OE, that this is my fault or responsibility?
11:45.32Laibschzecke|study: And I do care about efficient and effortless work
11:45.56Laibschzecke|study: When I hear you asking for md5sums then I think "this could be done easier"
11:46.04LaibschToo much?
11:47.27polyonymousI don't think that's what zecke meant.
11:47.42zecke|studyLaibsch: ah sorry, a complete misunderstanding
11:47.48LaibschOK
11:48.03LaibschI am not sure what you meant
11:48.16zecke|studyLaibsch: a) yes we can and I should write a script appending the checksum
11:48.43Laibschnice!
11:49.12polyonymousb) before doing that we should argue about it and throw heavy things around just for the sake of it.
11:49.23zecke|studyLaibsch: b) You will only see the importance once you have been bit
11:51.22zecke|studyLaibsch: There are two reasons why the same file can have different content
11:51.23LaibschOh, I think I am slowly getting your point.
11:51.23zecke|studyLaibsch: 1) malicious changes by hacker as has been seen most recently by wordpress 2) the author just updates the code for whatever reason
11:51.23Laibschhacker you meant in the "evil" sense of the word, right?
11:51.23polyonymousno
11:51.24LaibschI thought you meant coder
11:51.24zecke|studyLaibsch: malicious == evil
11:51.27polyonymousah
11:51.41Laibschzecke|study: I never said the md5sums made no sense.  Sorry if it came across as that.
11:51.42zecke|studyLaibsch: but both cases are bad. Imagine someone recompiling the packages you have created.
11:51.54polyonymouswell, I think indeed there are a few ways to interpret zecke statement even if you consider hacker == coder :)
11:51.56Laibschzecke|study: No need to argue here.
11:52.01LaibschI am all for md5sums
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11:53.11zecke|studyLaibsch: To the point: I think our responsibility to our customers/users should be so hight that you don't think it is a cumbersome monkey task :)
11:53.16zecke|studybut enough beeing said
11:53.24LaibschAll I am saying is "I don't want to do something manually in 3 minutes that a script could have done for me with negligible additional time taken from me".  I think many will agree and that is why you are seeing so few people commit md5sums.
11:54.19polyonymous3 minutes?
11:54.29zecke|studyLaibsch: on my mac I use macports which use sha256sums as well and they are mandantory ;)
11:54.35polyonymousI mean, you're certainly right, but the time estimation...
11:54.41Laibschzecke|study: Take a different angle.  We should make it easy for the contributors to OE to make sure they do the md5sums and thus make a better OE for all users.  Understand where I am hinting at?
11:54.57zecke|studyLaibsch: see a) from above
11:55.14LaibschOK, let's get down to it ;-)
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12:00.19zecke|studypolyonymous: you might want to update qmake2-native to 4.3.0 as well?
12:00.36polyonymouszecke|study, yes, but that's not important.
12:00.49polyonymouszecke|study, what is of more concer is your .conf file
12:00.50slapin_fszecke|study, polyonymous please see bug 2445, I'll provide all additional info on request
12:01.00polyonymousslapin_fs, try to pull first?
12:01.04polyonymous!oebak 2445
12:01.09polyonymous!oebug 2445
12:01.11cdbot2* * Bug 2445, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-06-08 05:00
12:01.11cdbot2* * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: Problems during parsing
12:01.12cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2445
12:01.19Sup3rkiddowhat could be the reason for this error
12:01.23Sup3rkiddosh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"'
12:01.24Sup3rkiddosh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
12:01.24Sup3rkiddoNOTE: Task failed:
12:01.33slapin_fszecke|study, polyonymous: sorry, was on launch
12:01.40Sup3rkiddoborked bitbake recipe?
12:01.58LaibschSup3rkiddo: Unlikely.  What package?
12:02.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2445 has been created by slapinid@gmail.com
12:02.06cdbot2* * Problems during parsing
12:02.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2445
12:02.17Sup3rkiddoLaibsch, its my own..just an hello world app
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12:03.28polyonymousSup3rkiddo, then probably yes.
12:03.43LaibschSup3rkiddo: Try building nano first
12:03.50LaibschSup3rkiddo: "bitbake nano"
12:03.52Sup3rkiddopolyonymous, hehe...ok
12:04.29polyonymousSup3rkiddo, first, read your .bb. Then you may want to try to pastebin it if you absolutely can't find disbalanced quotes.
12:05.14Sup3rkiddopolyonymous, i will pastebin it...btw can i set the SRC_URI to "file://blah/blah
12:05.34polyonymousno clue, probably yes.
12:05.55Sup3rkiddopolyonymous, never mind the last questio..build failed while inpacking
12:06.11Sup3rkiddomust be a borked tarball
12:06.11slapin_fspolyonymous, colse 2445 - it seems to be fixed now.
12:06.16slapin_fs*close
12:06.33Sup3rkiddo*unpacking
12:08.02polyonymousbbl - lunch
12:09.04cdbot2* * OE Bug 2445 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by polyonymous@klever.net
12:09.06cdbot2* *  Problems during parsing
12:09.08cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2445
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12:11.10koensteliosk: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/535907099/
12:14.10zecke|studybbl
12:15.33hrwkoen: got board?
12:15.39zecke|studypolyonymous: I still see the uqtreader error
12:15.49koenhrw: the one I bought myself, yes
12:15.56hrw69usd?
12:16.00koenthe other one should be here in a few weeks
12:16.03koenhrw: yes
12:16.28koen+ €16 tax
12:16.34hrwkoen: what plans for it (other then checking angstrom/avr32)?
12:17.02koenusbnet route
12:17.05koenr
12:17.31hrwlooks like device only
12:18.02koenin that case, it will become a firewall
12:19.00Sup3rkiddosilly me, error was in the recipe, misplaced "
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12:26.49hrwkoen: tested rootfs?
12:27.26koenonly the one in flash
12:28.24koendropbear, samba, ftpd, dnsmasq
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