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| 00:29.15 | CoreDump|home | !ombug 531 |
| 00:29.17 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 531, Status: RESOLVED (INVALID), Created: Unknown |
| 00:29.17 | cdbot2 | * * rodolphe.ortalo(AT)free.fr: make and configure modifications for make distcheck |
| 00:29.18 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=531 |
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| 02:26.08 | CIA-4 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rd468f920... 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:26.08 | CIA-4 | site: Update the site files to handle glibc having sys_siglist while uclibc |
| 02:26.08 | CIA-4 | doesn't. It was only enabled for arm and ixp4xx in older version of uclibc |
| 02:26.08 | CIA-4 | but not for anything else. Uclibc says it'll go away in uclibc soon and so |
| 02:26.08 | CIA-4 | shouldn't be used. |
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| 03:39.04 | CIA-4 | blueprobe 0.18: Fix for uclibc. Termios speed above 115k are not supported, |
| 03:39.04 | CIA-4 | so check for the defintion of the faster speeds before trying to use them. |
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| 03:39.08 | CIA-4 | bluez-utils 3.9: Fix for uclibc. Termios speed above 115k are not supported, |
| 03:39.08 | CIA-4 | so check for the definition of the faster speeds before trying to use them. |
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| 04:25.30 | CIA-4 | grep 2.5.1: Fix for uclibc. Grep uses __mempcpy which glibc provides but |
| 04:25.30 | CIA-4 | uclibc doesn't. Since both glibc and uclibc provide the mempcpy version use |
| 04:25.30 | CIA-4 | that instead. |
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| 06:44.48 | humsat | morn :) |
| 06:53.50 | hrw | morning |
| 06:55.17 | AsLan^ | morning gentlemen, does anyone know a way to make bitbake ignore a different md5? |
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| 06:56.54 | AsLan^ | it's really killing me, the source file and the .md5 file both have the same md5 but bitbake still wants another md5 that its getting from *somewhere* |
| 06:57.08 | hrw | check conf/checksums.ini |
| 06:57.36 | AsLan^ | I dont seem to have that file |
| 06:57.50 | AsLan^ | jus tconf/local.conf |
| 06:58.08 | hrw | OE/conf/checksums.* then? |
| 06:58.19 | AsLan^ | nope, afraid not |
| 06:58.52 | hrw | really? |
| 06:59.07 | hrw | conf/checksums.ini is present in OE metadata |
| 07:00.08 | AsLan^ | wait, I found one in linux/conf/ |
| 07:00.25 | AsLan^ | and in org.openembedded/conf/ |
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| 07:11.50 | AsLan^ | hrw: thank you, changing that file fixed it |
| 07:12.06 | AsLan^ | this has been with me since last night and all today |
| 07:12.22 | hrw | post failed entry to bugtracker |
| 07:12.36 | AsLan^ | ah, it's a bug of my doing |
| 07:12.47 | AsLan^ | I was playing with the source file |
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| 07:32.30 | hrw | hi koen|away |
| 07:42.33 | koen | hey hrw |
| 07:43.22 | xjqian | ERROR: QA Issue: non -dev package contains symlink .so: qte-mt path '/work/tosa-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/qte-mt-2.3.10-r13/install/qte-mt/opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte-mt.so' |
| 07:43.36 | koen | yes, qte is broken |
| 07:43.42 | koen | there is a bug for that somewhere |
| 07:44.08 | keesj | koen that was you morning wakup call! |
| 07:44.10 | keesj | hi |
| 07:45.06 | koen | :) |
| 07:45.09 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:46.55 | xjqian | !oebug1785 |
| 07:47.17 | xjqian | should be easy to fix, shouldn't it |
| 07:49.30 | xjqian | !oebug 1785 |
| 07:49.46 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1785, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-01-12 14:36 |
| 07:49.47 | cdbot2 | * * : ERROR: QA Issue: non dev package contains .so: qte-mt |
| 07:49.48 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1785 |
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| 08:02.32 | hrw | http://blog.haerwu.biz/archives/ - I found new plugin |
| 08:04.59 | xjqian | hrw: if I want to tackle the tosa suspend/resume bug, where/which file should I start with |
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| 08:05.18 | xjqian | hrw: i'm totally new to this, and the ipaq-sleep package |
| 08:05.30 | AsLan^ | I'm having a problem compiling module-init-tools, http://pastebin.ca/492537 any suggestions? |
| 08:05.44 | hrw | xjqian: remove usb modules |
| 08:06.53 | AsLan^ | xjqian: some of the debugging output is found in ohci-hcd.c that's where I've been looking |
| 08:07.18 | AsLan^ | but bitbakes been giving me the runaraound for the past 12 hours! |
| 08:07.52 | AsLan^ | regarding ohci-hcd.c |
| 08:07.59 | xjqian | AsLan^: I've seen this quilt problem myself, can't remember which package I'm baking |
| 08:08.00 | XorA | morning |
| 08:08.07 | hrw | xjqian: most of problems came from usb host driver which lack suspend/resume |
| 08:08.17 | xjqian | I see |
| 08:08.47 | AsLan^ | hrw: looking at the code... the ohci_usb_reset function is called, which leads to more errors |
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| 08:09.14 | xjqian | thanks. I will look into ohci-hcd.c |
| 08:09.20 | xjqian | what about power.c? |
| 08:09.24 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1a21079a... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc4-build-sdk.inc): gcc4-build-sdk: fix USE_NLS |
| 08:09.32 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re7f1b733... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): insane.bbclass: fix sdk builds |
| 08:09.33 | AsLan^ | this is the patch im working on http://pastebin.ca/492538 |
| 08:10.54 | AsLan^ | but can someone help me unscrew my OE environment! |
| 08:11.33 | AsLan^ | teh output says something about "package module-init-tools-3.2.2-r3" but I don't have that file |
| 08:12.51 | hrw | AsLan^: looks like you have weird quilt version |
| 08:13.49 | AsLan^ | version 0.45 |
| 08:14.20 | xjqian | AsLan^: I don't remember what's the solution for mine, maybe rm -rf tmp |
| 08:14.34 | AsLan^ | and rebuild for another three hours! |
| 08:14.40 | xjqian | AsLan^: and starting from scratch |
| 08:14.43 | AsLan^ | I'm not ready for that just yet, already done it twice |
| 08:15.32 | xjqian | AsLan^: I've never had that problem for a while |
| 08:15.52 | xjqian | AsLan^: maybe -c rebuild quilt-native |
| 08:16.10 | AsLan^ | I'll give that a try |
| 08:16.47 | koen | AsLan^: try 'bitbake quilt-native' |
| 08:18.00 | AsLan^ | alrighty, tried both but it still doesn't work |
| 08:18.11 | AsLan^ | earlier.. I made a mistake |
| 08:18.28 | AsLan^ | I accidently did a bitbake in my OE directory rather than OE/build |
| 08:18.36 | AsLan^ | this seems to be part of the problem |
| 08:21.06 | XorA | AsLan^: at least thats easy to undo |
| 08:22.28 | AsLan^ | well... I basically just moved the new tmp dir into build |
| 08:22.50 | AsLan^ | I'm guessing theres some temp configuration files somewhere that still have the old path |
| 08:22.52 | xjqian | AsLan^: that definitely won't work |
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| 08:23.13 | AsLan^ | koen: I'll definitely take a look |
| 08:23.14 | xjqian | AsLan^: I've tried that and learned a hard lesson |
| 08:23.19 | AsLan^ | :D |
| 08:23.24 | AsLan^ | yay hard lessons |
| 08:23.39 | AsLan^ | was there an easy way to do it? |
| 08:24.06 | xjqian | AsLan^: seems you have to rm -rf anyway;) |
| 08:24.28 | AsLan^ | well, I"m going to first just try removing the offending packages from aarmvte dir |
| 08:24.37 | XorA | ~lart gnu for using private symbols |
| 08:24.37 | ibot | drops a baby grand on gnu for using private symbols |
| 08:30.07 | xjqian | people are really quite today, I've yet received any mail from any oe, opie, gpe lists... |
| 08:30.27 | koen | christian holiday |
| 08:32.52 | hrw | koen: pushed something for you |
| 08:32.53 | XorA | its because someone trademarked the world, we cant send email anymore |
| 08:33.49 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r57252914... 10/ (1 classes/sdk.bbclass): sdk.bbclass: also package debug files |
| 08:33.54 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb9c37660... 10/ (1 packages/binutils/binutils-cross-sdk_2.17.50.0.5.bb): binutils-cross-sdk: add 2.17.50.0.5 |
| 08:34.25 | hrw | 2.17.50.0.5.. I forgot to merge it from poky.. |
| 08:34.41 | koen | the sdk stuff makes my eyes bleed |
| 08:35.03 | hrw | not only yours |
| 08:36.20 | koen | I'd like to hand people a qemu image that includes and sdk, but that doesn't work for armv6 |
| 08:36.40 | hrw | armv6 is not in qemu... |
| 08:39.53 | XorA | koen: well if you already had the SDK pain, time to feel the real pain in mozilla code, when you finished that you will be a first class massochist |
| 08:40.25 | koen | My patches for mozilla are already upstream.... |
| 08:40.39 | koen | libtool: link: cannot find the library `/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libxcb-0.9.93-r2/libxcb-0.9.93/src/libxcb.la' |
| 08:40.48 | koen | that's on the target |
| 08:41.33 | xjqian | hrw: has minimo recipe and patches been committed? |
| 08:41.52 | xjqian | hrw: I can't find packages/minimo |
| 08:42.14 | XorA | xjqian: packages/mozilla/minimo |
| 08:42.24 | xjqian | ugh, thanks |
| 08:42.37 | XorA | koen: does it work yet? |
| 08:42.54 | koen | XorA: the sdk? |
| 08:43.02 | XorA | mozilla |
| 08:43.11 | koen | people claim minimo works |
| 08:43.19 | XorA | koen: it almost does |
| 08:43.30 | XorA | koen: so back to the wheel of woe for you :-D |
| 08:43.43 | koen | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 08:43.55 | XorA | but then the only browser we have that ssl works in is links :-) |
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| 08:44.09 | XorA | so its not working in pretty much the same way all the rest not work |
| 08:44.26 | XorA | although I didnt try that new konqueror for opie |
| 08:47.34 | koen | how do I undo something with git? |
| 08:47.48 | koen | 'git revert' is the most braindead command ever |
| 08:53.30 | AsLan^ | xjqian: gah an entire day wasted with this crap! I've gone and removed tmp/ and starting again :( - any luck poking around ohci-hcd.c? |
| 08:53.30 | XorA | koen: git reset |
| 08:53.42 | XorA | koen: oh actually git checkout |
| 08:53.56 | XorA | koen: git was designed by cvs users remeber |
| 08:54.12 | XorA | s/designed/flug together in 10 mins/ |
| 08:55.50 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8390c5b6... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): powertop: update to 1.2 |
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| 09:26.36 | gerwinin | Koen: did you see my mail to knutt ? |
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| 09:49.24 | koen | gerwinin: the one from a few days ago? |
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| 10:26.47 | gremlin[it] | hi all ... i have a question about the poky image for qemux86 dod someone try it ? |
| 10:28.01 | keesj | gremlin I played with the scripts to create the qemu image |
| 10:29.21 | gremlin[it] | just a stupid question probably ... it boot and after a few it ask to calibrate the touchscreen ... but the mouse seem to not work as simulation of touch ...how i can do _ |
| 10:29.22 | gremlin[it] | ? |
| 10:30.09 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.10 | gremlin[it] | boot : i mean qemu boot ... |
| 10:30.25 | gremlin[it] | yes ye sunder qemu :) |
| 10:31.33 | gremlin[it] | basically the question is ... can qemu simulate a touchscreen with the mouse ? |
| 10:37.34 | hrw | gremlin[it]: OH qemu do that |
| 10:38.17 | gremlin[it] | seem no ... i try but i stay stucked at touchscreen calibration :( |
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| 10:39.10 | likewise | gm |
| 10:39.10 | gremlin[it] | no no wait ... the qemu packeged by OH ??? ... i have the one provided by Fedora Core 6 ... maybe that is ... |
| 10:39.16 | likewise | gm |
| 10:39.21 | gremlin[it] | morning likewise |
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| 10:41.37 | likewise | hi gremlin[it], wookey_ |
| 10:44.36 | psokolovsky_ | gremlin[it]: Angstrom images built for a non-accel fb work well in qemu/integrator - both x11 and opie |
| 10:44.47 | psokolovsky_ | gremlin[it]: I run h4000 images in such way |
| 10:45.44 | gremlin[it] | psokolovsky_, i woul'd just have a look at poky work ... and at now (for work) i'm working on x86 platform :) |
| 10:45.49 | gremlin[it] | morning psokolovsky_ ! |
| 10:45.59 | psokolovsky_ | hi! |
| 10:47.08 | psokolovsky_ | well, again - angstrom has all needed setup to work with moust instead of touchscreen |
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| 11:51.40 | cedricb | hi |
| 11:53.02 | cedricb | I'm getting this error the latest angstrom test release with ipkg -> ipkg: fork failed |
| 11:53.31 | cedricb | on update or install (remote or local one) |
| 11:55.58 | cedricb | aswell during flashing, my home directory has been deleted... :-( |
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| 12:17.15 | likewise | hello zecke |
| 12:18.09 | zecke | ho |
| 12:18.37 | zecke | koen|away: I'm now at pciutls |
| 12:24.08 | step2back | chouimat, I have that problem to! |
| 12:24.24 | step2back | How do you "kick" it? |
| 12:25.05 | chouimat | step2back: don't know :) |
| 12:25.12 | step2back | to! = too! |
| 12:26.40 | step2back | Do you out perl-native from buildings packages? |
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| 13:06.44 | step2back | hi, all. I have a error while building opie-image |
| 13:06.54 | step2back | ERROR: Build of org.openembedded.dev/packages/perl/perl-native_5.8.8.bb do_compile failed |
| 13:07.23 | step2back | no bugs added about it... :( |
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| 13:09.09 | step2back | Is it possible to do manual #Making x2p stuff |
| 13:09.11 | step2back | make[1]: Entering directory `tmp/work/i686-linux/perl-native-5.8.8-r7/perl-5.8.8/x2p' |
| 13:09.11 | step2back | You haven't done a "make depend" yet! |
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| 13:15.31 | psokolovsky_ | step2back: you should not need any manual actions. rebuild, then file bug if that doesn't help. |
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| 13:16.39 | step2back | <psokolovsky_>, how to rebuild? |
| 13:17.08 | psokolovsky_ | step2back: -c rebuild |
| 13:17.21 | psokolovsky_ | for perl-native, of course |
| 13:18.10 | step2back | bitbake perl-native -c rebuild - do you mean? |
| 13:19.34 | Zuse | Hi all, is there any known reason why compiling of freetype-native-2.2.1-r2 fails ? |
| 13:20.04 | step2back | no no no... I executed "make depend" in tmp/work/i686-linux/perl-native-5.8.8-r7/perl-5.8.8/x2p. Building continue! |
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| 13:26.44 | step2back | I think it's needed voodoo for building OE |
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| 13:29.22 | psokolovsky_ | step2back: no, it is not. all you need is just build it right, report issues right, and fix them right. |
| 13:29.37 | psokolovsky_ | Actually, ond more thing would be helpful - continuous integration. |
| 13:30.16 | Zuse | I read something about links in the OE devlopement path. Since I use different computers I set-up the OE environment on a mobile disk and set a link to /usr/local/OE. Can that create problems ? |
| 13:31.02 | psokolovsky_ | Zuse: yes, it will. |
| 13:31.49 | Zuse | psokolovsky_: O.K. ;) |
| 13:32.14 | step2back | <psokolovsky_>, I have not such experience for that. |
| 13:32.29 | psokolovsky_ | step2back: get it, it's free! ;-) |
| 13:32.32 | step2back | cool Running task 98 of 3897 |
| 13:34.28 | likewise | some people use a $TOPDIR approach to run their configs against. Can anyone explain how that would work? |
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| 14:44.20 | Zuse | What i have to do if I like to reset the OE environment (it looks broken due to some problems with harddisk space). I like to avoid that I have to download every source again. |
| 14:45.10 | zecke | Zuse: remove tmp/work tmp/staging tmp/cross tmp/stamps... so basicly everything but $DL_DIR |
| 14:45.25 | NAbyss_ | Zuse: rm -rf tmp will remove all the semi-compiled stuff |
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| 14:46.28 | Zuse | NAbyss_: But that's included to delete 3 G of data. Any way to rescue something ? |
| 14:49.57 | Zuse | zecke: Sorry just didn't saw your lines. Thanks i will try |
| 14:50.05 | NAbyss_ | Zuse: What explicitly do you want to rescue? It should automagically(TM) rebuild what's not good.. |
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| 14:50.19 | NAbyss_ | tmp/deploy is probablyt the only thing worth keeping |
| 14:51.55 | Zuse | NAbyss_: Thanks, no I just like to keep the downloads since I'm at home now and my broadband connections is very slow. I guess I just have to keep $DL_DIR as zecke suggest |
| 14:52.12 | NAbyss_ | Zuse: Sources aren't in tmp/ afaik |
| 14:52.20 | NAbyss_ | At least they aren't here |
| 14:53.54 | Zuse | NAbyss_: just had to check build/conf/local.conf ;) |
| 14:54.10 | NAbyss_ | ah :) |
| 14:56.01 | Zuse | NAbyss_: I just wonder, if the download folder is external, what does blow up the /tmp/work folder so much ? |
| 14:56.51 | psokolovsky_ | Zuse: look there and you will see |
| 14:57.19 | Zuse | psokolovsky_: O.k. i will look there ;) |
| 14:57.55 | NAbyss_ | Zuse: tmp/work contains the compiled software and unpacked tarballs |
| 14:58.28 | Zuse | NAbyss_: Anyhow now it's gone ... :) |
| 14:58.57 | NAbyss_ | Basic workflow is source -> tmp/work -> tmp/staging -> tmp/deploy |
| 15:02.23 | Zuse | NAbyss_: Yes thanks, I think I start to understand. Just start to "play" with OE more intensive and much stuff is still confusing me. |
| 15:02.46 | NAbyss_ | Zuse: I haven't got into it that deeply myself.. but it's good once you get used to it :) |
| 15:04.32 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r9caf4879... 10/ (8 files in 8 dirs): |
| 15:04.32 | CIA-4 | linux-handhelds-2.6: Update defconfigs, from defconfigman r230. |
| 15:04.32 | CIA-4 | * Also htcuniversal defconfig, contributed by tsdogs (#htc-linux). |
| 15:05.43 | zecke | holtmann: hey, do you test bluez-utils with uclibc? |
| 15:18.37 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * re41a7519... 10/ (1 packages/pciutils/pciutils-2.2.4/configure-uclibc.patch): packages/pciutils/pcituils-2.2.4: Fix configure for gnueabiuclibc builds |
| 15:22.55 | zecke | holtmann: do you know if I can make AC_CHECK_FUNC include another header for me? |
| 15:23.00 | zecke | psokolovsky_: do we need to merge? |
| 15:23.07 | holtmann | zecke: No. |
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| 15:23.46 | psokolovsky_ | zecke: ??? mtn? i always merge before commit, sorry if it slipped |
| 15:23.54 | zecke | holtmann: the NEED_PPOLL test fails on my uclibc build, ppoll is declared in sys/poll.h on uclibc |
| 15:24.00 | zecke | psokolovsky_: well, I might be guilty ;) |
| 15:24.51 | holtmann | zecke: That can be fixed. |
| 15:25.14 | zecke | holtmann: well, let me take a closer look at the config.log |
| 15:25.42 | holtmann | There is a way to make it include sys/poll.h, but I can't remember how. |
| 15:25.58 | holtmann | Post a patch to bluez-devel and I include it. |
| 15:26.00 | zecke | holtmann: well, I assumed it failed to compile, it failed to link though |
| 15:26.10 | zecke | holtmann: will do when it is not an OE error |
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| 15:27.13 | zecke | it looks like an OE error |
| 15:34.05 | zecke | holtmann: well. uclibc has a ppoll declaration in sys/poll.h, ARM looks like it is not defining a ppoll syscall so it is missing from the libc.so and bluez-utils detects that it has to use the stub but then gcc complains about the different prototypes (static vs. non-static) |
| 15:34.29 | zecke | holtmann: option a) remove static from the ppoll.h stub and hope it will link |
| 15:34.49 | zecke | holtmann: b) move the implementation to ppoll.c |
| 15:34.52 | holtmann | To I added a --disable-ppoll by any chance. |
| 15:35.02 | zecke | holtmann: c) make ppoll a define |
| 15:39.11 | zecke | holtmann: sorry? |
| 15:43.02 | Crofton | anyone used buildbot? |
| 15:43.21 | zecke | Crofton: RP does for poky |
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| 15:43.45 | Crofton | I am trying to set it up for some stuff here and it confuses me :) |
| 15:44.21 | zecke | Crofton: well it is using twised so this is normal... |
| 15:44.48 | Crofton | heh |
| 15:47.28 | zecke | holtmann: http://rafb.net/p/0FKkka12.html the patch with the least effort |
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| 15:48.25 | holtmann | Does this solve your issue? |
| 15:48.50 | zecke | holtmann: it compiles and links |
| 15:49.53 | zecke | holtmann: Short summary on the issue. NEED_POLL is 1 as libc.so has no ppoll symbol but sys/poll.h has a ppoll prototype. So when including common/ppoll.h and sys/poll.h gets included as well gcc will complain |
| 15:50.11 | holtmann | Does it actually work? |
| 15:50.42 | zecke | holtmann: I can probably tell you in a week or two (depending on my time) :) |
| 15:50.56 | zecke | holtmann: or work as in compiles? |
| 15:51.07 | holtmann | I think that I lost my system without ppoll support. So I can't test it. |
| 15:51.30 | zecke | holtmann: use your N770? |
| 15:52.47 | holtmann | I have the hacker edition running on it. |
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| 16:13.03 | wookey_ | robtaylor: did you find the pxa-dev-manual? |
| 16:13.09 | wookey_ | I have a copy on me now |
| 16:16.16 | robtaylor | wookey_: no, i havn't found it yet |
| 16:17.18 | robtaylor | wookey_: your're brilliantm=, thanks! |
| 16:17.33 | wookey_ | uploading.... |
| 16:18.04 | wookey_ | it's huge |
| 16:21.42 | wookey_ | oops - uploaded to mahcine you can't see. let me try that again |
| 16:22.19 | robtaylor | doh =) |
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| 16:23.15 | robtaylor | morn koen |
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| 16:28.19 | likewise | hi koen |
| 16:28.33 | likewise | hi HopsNBarley |
| 16:29.03 | HopsNBarley | hi likewise. how's it going with uclibc? |
| 16:29.35 | wookey_ | robtaylor: http://balloonboard.org/hardware/300/ds/PXA270-dev-manual.pdf |
| 16:30.39 | robtaylor | wookey_: you rock |
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| 16:32.52 | HopsNBarley | anybody working with Marvell Orion? |
| 16:33.12 | robtaylor | wookey_: i owe you a beer or somesuch :) |
| 16:33.43 | likewise | HopsNBarley: all credit to koen and a lot of others. |
| 16:34.16 | likewise | HopsNBarley: 0.9.29 seems to be fairly easy on us, no true problems yet. |
| 16:34.31 | koen | hey all |
| 16:35.00 | likewise | vvv |
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| 16:37.54 | HopsNBarley | likewise, great news. |
| 16:38.22 | woglinde | he koen |
| 16:38.23 | HopsNBarley | hi koen. |
| 16:38.29 | koen | does atmel have offices in sunny places? |
| 16:38.35 | woglinde | koen hehe |
| 16:38.42 | koen | hey woglinde & HopsNBarley |
| 16:38.44 | likewise | koen: probably yes :-) |
| 16:38.54 | HopsNBarley | i know sunny places with lots of offices (-; san jose has 300+ days of sun a year. |
| 16:39.50 | woglinde | hopsnbarley hm very hot there |
| 16:40.24 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r1d3cbf1f... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): helloworld: package plus image for truly minimal user space, a statically linked hello world executable. |
| 16:40.25 | likewise | HopsNBarley: we should really do a OE startup then :-) |
| 16:40.56 | HopsNBarley | that's what i'm doing!!! |
| 16:41.18 | koen | woglinde: DISTRO=angstrom-2007.1-oabi ANGSTROM_MODE=uclibc MACHINE=simpad |
| 16:41.31 | HopsNBarley | woglinde, only about 2 or 3 weeks each summer. really. i moved from florida. it's hot *there*. |
| 16:41.43 | woglinde | hopsnbarley hehe okay |
| 16:41.44 | zecke | koen: libnss-mdns is currently failing :) |
| 16:42.03 | koen | http://people.openezx.org/pmarques/pictures/rokr_e6_booting.jpg |
| 16:43.13 | HopsNBarley | Marvel orion anybody? |
| 16:43.25 | likewise | HopsNBarley: nope, orion = ? |
| 16:44.24 | HopsNBarley | Orion is Marvel SOC, Arm 9 based i think. Got USB2.0, Sata, cheap. need code though. |
| 16:44.58 | koen | I saw a patch for orion on LAK iirc |
| 16:46.33 | HopsNBarley | i'll check archives. thanks koen. |
| 16:46.48 | likewise | HopsNBarley: I really liked Marvell's SATA controller (working with it in our industrial PVR system). Very high performant, SMART and hotplug working earlier than libata/linux did. |
| 16:47.26 | HopsNBarley | SMART for SATA? |
| 16:47.41 | likewise | HopsNBarley: yup, I added SMART support for SATA in the marvell driver and the smartmontools package even |
| 16:47.44 | woglinde | hopsnbarley yes |
| 16:47.54 | likewise | libata now also has it |
| 16:47.56 | woglinde | sata has smart support |
| 16:48.31 | HopsNBarley | hey, that's great news. i must have been working with a controller that didn't support it. |
| 16:48.33 | likewise | smartmontools support for marvell is upstream (-d marvell). |
| 16:48.50 | likewise | HopsNBarley: which controller? which controller is in the orion? (googling...) |
| 16:49.07 | HopsNBarley | it's integrated in the SOC. dunno which one. |
| 16:52.12 | zecke | koen: why do we need libnss_mdns? this won't ever work on uclibc ;) |
| 16:53.39 | likewise | Can I disable ipkg ending up in my rootfs and image? |
| 16:53.47 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r3072b3ae... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:53.47 | CIA-4 | packages/bluez/bluez-utils: angstrom uclibc fixlet. Make custom ppoll not clash with sys/poll.h |
| 16:53.47 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.47 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.51 | koen | zecke: dunno |
| 16:53.52 | CIA-4 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r386f0541... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:53.52 | CIA-4 | packages/strace: Apply patch from uclibc buildroot to fix compilation uclibc angstrom |
| 16:53.52 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.53 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.29 | zecke | koen: do we have an override for uclibc? |
| 16:55.55 | koen | _linux-uclibc and _linux-uclibcgnueabi |
| 16:55.59 | koen | aka target_os |
| 16:56.10 | koen | likewise: could you restore angstrom-minimal-image? |
| 16:56.22 | likewise | koen: restore? |
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| 16:56.38 | zecke | koen: need to override RRECOMMENDS of avahi to not depend on libnss-mdns |
| 16:57.14 | koen | likewise: there are 2 hello-world images now :) |
| 16:57.32 | koen | zecke: see the gdb recipe |
| 16:58.12 | zecke | koen: thanks |
| 16:58.38 | koen | likewise: see the bottompart of http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-commits/2007-May/005557.html |
| 16:59.01 | likewise | koen: I'll reject my commit, probably hit save too soon in my editor... |
| 17:00.58 | likewise | koen: I should review the mtn command string needed to view outgoing pushes... |
| 17:01.57 | koen | fwiw, the commit message show the affected files as well |
| 17:02.08 | koen | message-editor, that is |
| 17:03.00 | likewise | koen: using -m... |
| 17:04.08 | zecke | wow I need to buy the "magic opener" |
| 17:04.44 | hvontres|poodle | likewise: I like your do_fetch for helloworld.bb :) |
| 17:04.44 | likewise | :-) |
| 17:09.50 | woglinde | koen hm dont work for simpad |
| 17:09.58 | woglinde | it will build glibc |
| 17:10.15 | zecke | woglinde: well |
| 17:10.21 | zecke | woglinde: user error ;) |
| 17:10.58 | woglinde | zecke if you think |
| 17:13.14 | zecke | angstrom-console-image-1.0: completed yipee |
| 17:13.34 | woglinde | hm angstroem-oabi.conf has TARGET_OS = "linux" ;) |
| 17:13.34 | zecke | woglinde: hehe |
| 17:13.40 | woglinde | zecke which architecture? |
| 17:13.51 | zecke | woglinde: Neo uclibc |
| 17:13.56 | woglinde | hehe |
| 17:15.17 | woglinde | hm |
| 17:15.19 | woglinde | TARGET_OS = "linux-uclibcgnueabi" |
| 17:16.10 | zecke | not EABI |
| 17:16.20 | woglinde | hehe |
| 17:16.24 | woglinde | thats what oe makes |
| 17:16.36 | zecke | clever |
| 17:17.41 | woglinde | hm thats needs some love |
| 17:20.17 | zecke | qemu over remote X feels like a real neo :} |
| 17:22.50 | mrdata | woglinde: hi |
| 17:23.18 | mrdata | woglinde: you try to build with uclibc instead glibc, right? |
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| 17:26.09 | mrdata | woglinde: and uclibc build should give smaller binarys? |
| 17:41.40 | koen | mickey|moving: thanks for the reply |
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| 17:46.51 | mreimer | hey all |
| 17:46.54 | zecke | koen: what is the status on icu? |
| 17:47.11 | mreimer | is mtn 0.31 supported? |
| 17:47.22 | likewise | mreimer: yes |
| 17:47.31 | zecke | mreimer: supported by who/what? |
| 17:48.18 | mreimer | Can I use the OE db with mtn 0.31? |
| 17:48.52 | likewise | mreimer: http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ |
| 17:48.53 | mreimer | I get "mtn: misuse: layout of database /home/mreimer/oe OE.mtn doesn't match this version of monotone" |
| 17:49.06 | mreimer | likewise: so get the 0.31 snapshot from Nov and then update it? |
| 17:49.12 | likewise | mreimer: corect |
| 17:49.14 | likewise | +r |
| 17:49.16 | mreimer | thanks likewise |
| 17:49.31 | mreimer | and thanks for the bad question smackdown, zecke :-) |
| 17:50.00 | koen | zecke: same as before (icu) |
| 17:50.03 | likewise | mreimer: You can always run the statically compiled mtn 0.33 or even 0.34 from monotone.ca. There have been numerous speedups since 0.31 |
| 17:50.35 | mreimer | likewise: the machine I'm using for this is running Ubuntu feisty fawn, which only has 0.31 |
| 17:50.49 | mreimer | and git 1.4 :-( |
| 17:50.51 | likewise | mreimer: me too |
| 17:51.13 | mreimer | likewise: do you know of some newer mtn packages for ff? |
| 17:51.19 | likewise | mreimer: so, I uninstalled monotone 0.31, then installed the statically compiled binary (0.34) from monotone.ca and use that |
| 17:51.29 | mreimer | likewise: ah I see. thanks for the tip |
| 17:51.37 | likewise | mreimer: no, I used to build it myself, these days I just run the static exe |
| 17:51.46 | likewise | it saves me much hassles |
| 17:51.53 | likewise | (building boost lib etc) |
| 17:52.10 | mreimer | likewise: good idea. Is 0.35 ok, or should I stick with 0.33/0.34? |
| 17:52.30 | likewise | 0.34 works for me (tm) |
| 17:52.30 | zecke | mreimer: it is okay :) |
| 17:52.30 | koen | 0.35 is nice, it changes the text in the commit-message editer to include the branch and less fluff |
| 17:52.36 | koen | easier to spot mistakes :) |
| 17:52.46 | likewise | :-) |
| 17:53.08 | koen | mreimer: the db migrate takes ~30 seconds on OE.mtn with 0.35, it just needs to add an index to a table |
| 17:53.11 | likewise | I thought I disapproved my commit and committed that disapproval... still waiting for it to show... |
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| 17:59.52 | mreimer | koen: this box of Todd's has 2 Xeon 5110 (so 4 x 1.6 GHz cores), which ought to make a decent OE builder |
| 18:01.10 | koen | mreimer: btw, the TI BTS patch doesn't apply to bluez-utils 3.10 |
| 18:02.00 | mreimer | koen: bummer. Do you know if it is wildly broken, or just a little? |
| 18:02.28 | koen | there is support for some more TI radios in there now, so I can't say |
| 18:02.51 | koen | mreimer: 3.10 is wildly different from 3.9 (in a good way) |
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| 18:06.35 | mreimer | koen: that's good to know |
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| 18:16.14 | mreimer | likewise: do you know where I could get newer git packages for ff? I see gutsy has 1.5+ |
| 18:16.29 | likewise | mreimer: no, I don't use git much (yet) |
| 18:16.51 | likewise | mreimer: I *do* have a git question, though |
| 18:18.37 | mreimer | likewise: fire away |
| 18:18.46 | mreimer | mreimer: though I'm no expert |
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| 18:19.08 | likewise | mreimer: I'm cloning upstream linux, then fetch another branch from another git tree. |
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| 18:19.58 | likewise | mreimer: I would like to specify a specific version of that branch when checking out. Is specifying one id enough to do so? |
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| 18:20.55 | mreimer | likewise: git-checkout -b mynewbranch v2.6.16.47 |
| 18:21.00 | mreimer | likewise: something like that? |
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| 18:21.58 | mreimer | likewise: that would create a new branch named mynewbranch based off the 2.6.16.47 tag on the stable branch |
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| 18:25.56 | mreimer | likewise: I think if you don't need to create a new branch, you can just "git-checkout v2.6.16.47" |
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| 18:28.55 | mreimer | koen: I'm following your "Building Angstrom" instructions, and I see that you use bitbake 1.6.0. Is that the recommended version? |
| 18:29.28 | zecke | mreimer: no |
| 18:29.38 | mreimer | zecke: 1.8? |
| 18:29.41 | zecke | mreimer: yes |
| 18:29.44 | mreimer | thanks |
| 18:31.04 | koen | mreimer: I thought I removed all 1.6.x references... |
| 18:31.19 | mreimer | koen: "tar zxf /path/to/bitbake-1.6.0.tar.gz" |
| 18:31.29 | mreimer | koen: "PATH=/OE/bitbake-1.6.0/bin:${ORG_PATH}" |
| 18:31.44 | koen | crap, I didn't press "submit" |
| 18:32.07 | mreimer | the thought counts :-) |
| 18:34.28 | koen | mreimer: is the rendering problem still there after an ipkg upgrade? |
| 18:34.49 | mreimer | koen: which ipk? gtk+? |
| 18:35.29 | koen | all |
| 18:35.37 | koen | 'ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade' |
| 18:35.58 | mreimer | koen: I'll try it. (The image I'm using I built myself.) |
| 18:35.58 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r2f7cdf8e... 10/ (6 files in 6 dirs): angstrom-minimal-image: revert broken commit. |
| 18:36.04 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r161f25ff... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): disapproval of revision '1d3cbf1f69da57387c0d0eb4329fc5054a9ccec0' |
| 18:40.49 | RP | gremlin[it]: You need a patched qemu for touchscreen calibration |
| 18:50.10 | koen | likewise: ehm... eh... is revision 2f7cdf8eacd78e273744583cd918480d48f69dc8 what you intended to commit? |
| 19:02.10 | mreimer | is this anything to be concerned about: "NOTE: preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available (for item virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libc-for-gcc)" |
| 19:02.52 | gremlin[it] | thanks RP :) |
| 19:03.41 | koen | mreimer: that one is harmless |
| 19:03.48 | mreimer | thanks koen |
| 19:04.21 | Zuse | RP: got all the Intel pxa27x infos. Do you have any specific information about how the Z handle the suspend ? |
| 19:05.31 | Crofton | koen, why does it do that? |
| 19:05.41 | Crofton | inquiring minds want to know :) |
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| 19:11.11 | koen | Crofton: it evaluates every glibc recipe to check what satisfies glibc-intermediate (aka virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libc-for-gcc) |
| 19:11.26 | koen | Crofton: and glibc_2.5.bb doesn't provide virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libc-for-gcc |
| 19:11.47 | Crofton | should we make it do that? |
| 19:11.50 | koen | glibc_2.ancient does |
| 19:11.55 | Crofton | I know it confuses a lot of people |
| 19:12.05 | koen | Crofton: no, we want glibc-intermediate :) |
| 19:12.26 | koen | the solution is to delete everything except glibc*2.5.bb ;) |
| 19:12.53 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:13.11 | Crofton | anyway, I need to go back to working what set of revs to run to collect some data |
| 19:13.21 | Crofton | svn is in a bad state here right now |
| 19:13.30 | Crofton | HEAD isn't really working |
| 19:17.25 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r093b89e2... 10/ (6 files in 6 dirs): disapproval of revision '2f7cdf8eacd78e273744583cd918480d48f69dc8' |
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| 19:17.52 | koen | pH5, XorA|gone: http://rafb.net/p/IVX4tv70.html |
| 19:20.49 | RP | Zuse: Not much other than whats in the code |
| 19:21.25 | RP | Zuse: The most interesting bit is that when charging the battery the zaurus wakes up, does things and then sleeps again every 10 minutes |
| 19:21.45 | RP | Zuse: Other than that, its the standard pxa27x code |
| 19:23.33 | koen | RP: OE isn't a distribution :) |
| 19:23.51 | koen | RP: could you change the description on pokylinux.org? |
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| 19:24.41 | RP | koen: Ah, at the bottom? I didn't write that :) |
| 19:25.25 | koen | RP: you might want to link to http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual as well |
| 19:27.13 | RP | koen: I can't change this atm, I'll try tomorrow |
| 19:32.54 | Zuse | RP: Can you help me and point a bit to the code ? Just wonder which of the idle modes are used and wether it will change with increasing idle time. |
| 19:32.54 | koen | RP: hrw looked at it a bit |
| 19:33.08 | koen | RP: every now and then he hints that we need to merge something from poky :) |
| 19:33.17 | koen | dunno about OE -> poky, though |
| 19:36.02 | Zuse | just to switch in, sorry i still try to learn and to understand :). What actually is poky ? |
| 19:37.19 | koen | Zuse: http://pokylinux.org/ |
| 19:38.13 | RP | Zuse: There is only one idle mode used and a choice of two suspend modes |
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| 19:39.35 | RP | Zuse: arch/arm/mach-pxa/pm.c is the suspend code, or at least part of it, the rest links from there |
| 19:39.50 | RP | koen: I could give hints about new things to merge :} |
| 19:40.47 | RP | koen: Have you looked at nokia800 support? |
| 19:40.47 | Zuse | koen: Thanks for the link. So, OE is a platform for distribution devlopement of embedded systems and OZ, Angstrom and poky are distributions created with the help of OE ? |
| 19:40.48 | cedricb | koen: I can't use "ipkg" with the latest angstrom test image (12/05/2007), I'm getting "fork failed" |
| 19:41.25 | Zuse | RP: Thanks for the pointer I will have a look to it. Still like to solve this resume problem on akita. |
| 19:42.09 | koen | Zuse: yes |
| 19:42.25 | koen | cedricb: that means "Need more RAM" |
| 19:42.47 | woglinde | :) hm uclibc is now fixed |
| 19:42.53 | koen | RP: I haven't had time yet to try a new image on my n800 |
| 19:43.03 | woglinde | will post the patch to bugtracker |
| 19:43.08 | RP | koen: The xserver in poky works properly now |
| 19:43.33 | koen | ah, cool |
| 19:44.30 | cedricb | koen: any change between April image? was working before... and by flashing it has erased my home partition or /home/root |
| 19:45.10 | koen | cedricb: I suspect the feeds got bigger, so ipkg needs more ram |
| 19:47.06 | cedricb | any other alternative to reduce it? but if I try to install a local ipk, I'm getting the same thing |
| 19:51.44 | RP | koen: 0.75MB of diff with OE |
| 19:53.40 | koen | RP: partly because I tend to run poky recipes through oe-stylize.py |
| 19:54.33 | hvontres|poodle | cedricb: add a swap partition |
| 19:54.36 | koen | or is that with --ignore-whitespace? |
| 19:54.51 | RP | Its not with ignore whitespace |
| 19:55.30 | hvontres|poodle | cedricb: also, one other thing you could do is to modify ipkg.conf to store the ipkg-lists somewhere other than tmp, since that also uses up ram |
| 19:55.55 | RP | koen: Did you develop a pointercal type package for Angstrom? |
| 19:57.02 | koen | RP: not yet |
| 19:57.21 | koen | RP: I was waiting for people to put more pointercals in the angstrom wiki |
| 19:57.28 | koen | I'll try to look at it tomorrow |
| 19:58.27 | RP | koen: Theres an exmaple .bb in poky ;-) |
| 19:58.46 | koen | I know :) |
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| 21:02.48 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r6e2c3679... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): helloworld: fix broken commit. |
| 21:02.53 | CIA-4 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r90a3055e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): helloworld: helloworld is easy, fixing my own commits is not. |
| 21:03.21 | likewise | ehm, are the upstream servers sync'ed? |
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| 21:10.52 | koen | "Here, the project in question ran `sed 's/gaim/pidgin/g'`, moved their bugzilla to another machine and thought that those actions justified closing all the bugs rather than migrating them. This is hardly a spongeworthy accomplishment." |
| 21:11.16 | koen | From http://www.advogato.org/person/cinamod/diary.html?start=143 |
| 21:11.55 | koen | reminds me of how we moved from RT to bugzilla |
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| 21:19.53 | likewise | hello cworth |
| 21:19.58 | likewise | koen: thanks for fixing my bad. |
| 21:20.04 | cworth | hello likewise |
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| 21:20.55 | likewise | Can anyone who uses pango try the 1.16.4 release in OE which has pref -1? It should look much better in some cases: http://behdad.org/blog/mces/image/metricshinting-kerning.png and will close oebug #2155. |
| 21:21.57 | RP | likewise: poky-bleeding is using it |
| 21:22.17 | likewise | RP: and does is bleed, is it edgy? |
| 21:22.53 | RP | likewise: I must admit to not using it much but others in the company do |
| 21:23.21 | likewise | RP: I'm not using pango myself yet, so I cannot close my own "feature" bug :-) |
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| 21:25.45 | woglinde | hi rp |
| 21:26.37 | likewise | RP: got my bike fixed (the shaft sensors had little hairlines/cracks) (not sure about the right terminology here) |
| 21:27.12 | RP | likewise: hairline cracks sounds right (and nasty) :/ |
| 21:27.36 | RP | Good to have found and fixed it though |
| 21:28.15 | likewise | RP: Engine stopped two times on the highways after a 15mile drive in busy traffic at 120km/h. |
| 21:28.45 | likewise | RP: which, for a noob biker, is always a bit too exciting (especially in Dutch traffic)... |
| 21:28.52 | RP | likewise: Yes, sounds nasty |
| 21:29.03 | RP | likewise: Enjoying it other than that? :) |
| 21:29.46 | likewise | RP: sure, I was happy as a little kid today that I could drive around a bit (you know, the drives without any destination) |
| 21:31.46 | likewise | RP: do you know of a way to leave ipkg out of the image, despite using image.bbclass? |
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| 21:33.33 | RP | likewise: No, we should really add some way of disabling that |
| 21:44.35 | likewise | RP: as a test image, I have added helloworld-image which only depends on helloworld (which depends on nothing, statically linked). |
| 21:45.00 | mreimer | likewise: I use pango a lot. I'll check as soon as I get a chance |
| 21:45.41 | RP | likewise: There is a post install function somewhere in poky that nukes the packaging files from the image iirc |
| 21:45.44 | likewise | mreimer: Are there any *simple* pango-using programs (i.e. render Unicode to PNG)? |
| 21:45.51 | RP | likewise: a post image generation function even |
| 21:46.02 | likewise | RP: yes, I could use the image pre or post commands. |
| 21:46.37 | likewise | RP: but I wondered where the dependency on ipkg is hidden, so that it (and thereby the C lib gets installed) |
| 21:47.02 | RP | likewise: top of rootfs_ipk.bbclass (I think) |
| 21:47.57 | likewise | RP: ok, so maybe rootfs.bbclass must be added? |
| 21:48.00 | woglinde | hrms |
| 21:48.10 | likewise | RP: which does not use .deb or .ipkg's |
| 21:48.13 | woglinde | libiconv fails with uclibc |
| 21:48.28 | RP | likewise: No, you need to use some kind of package system |
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| 21:49.03 | RP | psokolovsky: ping |
| 21:49.07 | likewise | RP: oh yes, indeed. But the deployment of the package tool on the target rootfs should be configurable. |
| 21:49.25 | RP | likewise: Most images wouldn't actually work without it |
| 21:49.49 | likewise | RP: Because they require post-install scripts to run? |
| 21:49.56 | psokolovsky | RP: pong |
| 21:50.00 | RP | likewise: yes |
| 21:50.16 | RP | psokolovsky: Did you ever finish your make-ipkg-index speedup? |
| 21:50.21 | likewise | RP: then that's something I would like to get rid of as well. Many users are generating read-only images. |
| 21:50.34 | zecke | wookey_: why is that? |
| 21:50.35 | psokolovsky | RP: yep, it's in q to be submitted ;-\ |
| 21:50.48 | RP | psokolovsky: Have you something rought I could play with? |
| 21:50.54 | RP | psokolovsky: and maybe merge ;-) |
| 21:51.17 | RP | 'night zecke |
| 21:51.28 | RP | likewise: A worthy aim, although its actually hard |
| 21:51.39 | psokolovsky | RP: yes, I'll try to update it over next few days (likely, to monday), and post it to bugtracker |
| 21:51.41 | likewise | gnite ze |
| 21:51.43 | likewise | cke |
| 21:51.55 | zecke | wookey_: sorry, you are a victim of tab completion |
| 21:52.18 | RP | psokolovsky: ok, thanks. I'm running some builds that could really use that speedup and I'd hate to duplicate the work! |
| 21:52.22 | likewise | zecke: sorry you were the victim of a trigger happy enter finger |
| 21:52.31 | zecke | ;) |
| 21:52.41 | likewise | :-) |
| 21:53.05 | likewise | sleep tight (in your new place?) |
| 21:53.05 | likewise | s/in/at/ |
| 21:53.05 | zecke | actually I will create a spreahsheet first |
| 21:53.10 | zecke | no new place yet |
| 21:53.20 | likewise | sorry confused with mickeyl... ;-) |
| 21:53.42 | likewise | yeah spreadsheets make you get very sleepy |
| 21:53.45 | zecke | well I'm searching something small and crappy |
| 21:53.52 | zecke | oh and really cheap :} |
| 21:53.52 | likewise | as in cheap? |
| 21:53.55 | likewise | :-) |
| 21:54.32 | zecke | houses, rich upper class boys :) |
| 21:54.57 | RP | zecke: There are shoe boxes here they call houses ;-) |
| 21:54.59 | likewise | talk to you in 5 years |
| 21:55.02 | zecke | hehe |
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| 21:55.34 | likewise | btw, still renting here, I'm only student-off for one year now. |
| 21:56.00 | zecke | ljp: hey lorn, I will test my uclibc neo image inside the emulator tomorrow and then you have something to play with ;) |
| 21:56.19 | ljp | hmmm. ok. |
| 21:59.14 | zecke | hehe |
| 22:01.57 | gerwinin | Zecke: did you follow the discussion with knutt ? |
| 22:02.34 | gerwinin | Zecke: if you have some time I would like to have your point of view as well |
| 22:03.10 | zecke | gerwinin: skip the second 't' |
| 22:03.23 | gerwinin | zecke: okay sorry |
| 22:03.29 | zecke | gerwinin: I'm summarizing our thoughts on the Foundation |
| 22:04.02 | zecke | gerwinin: a small table with the options we had |
| 22:11.36 | gerwinin | zecke: okay , I think we need to meet up with the core team and with knut and me |
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| 22:12.33 | zecke | cworth: I need a debugging hint |
| 22:12.45 | cworth | zecke: what's up? |
| 22:13.32 | zecke | cworth: Let me get a backtrace to ask a sane question |
| 22:15.42 | zecke | cworth: http://rafb.net/p/cJp7zN53.html any idea how one could debug it? |
| 22:17.33 | cworth | zecke: Is your X server crashing or something? |
| 22:17.50 | zecke | cworth: it crashed once, but not this time |
| 22:18.41 | cworth | I can't imagine lots of other reasons for having an IO error trying to write to X, (unless this is a networked X sesssion and the connection is going away or something). |
| 22:18.41 | zecke | cworth: this is WebKit/Gdk and I wonder if it would be possible to record the parameters passed to cairo and then replay |
| 22:19.05 | cworth | zecke: There's a "libcairowrap" thing that might help with that. |
| 22:19.27 | zecke | cworth: the X is local, but it is apple's quartzX server. I think other people have seen it on a X.org X as well |
| 22:25.14 | likewise | good nite ppl |
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| 22:25.57 | RP | 'night all |
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| 22:29.46 | zecke | night |
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| 23:58.21 | rwhitby | morning |
