| 00:00.18 | xjqian | do you guys think this should be in the wiki or documentation, etc |
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| 00:01.10 | Crofton | what good open source project does nt have arcane lore passed on through irc channels |
| 00:01.12 | Crofton | ? |
| 00:01.57 | polyonymous | ;-))) |
| 00:02.01 | polyonymous | Night, everybody |
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| 02:13.40 | CIA-30 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rea56f69f... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:13.40 | CIA-30 | perl: Extract common functionality from cpan and cpan_build classes into a |
| 02:13.40 | CIA-30 | cpan-base class and update cpan_build to work with the new perl layout that |
| 02:13.41 | CIA-30 | was added with perl 5.8.8. |
| 02:13.41 | CIA-30 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r72a2a6f0... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:13.41 | CIA-30 | perl/perl-native 5.8.8: Move the creation of the hostperl link in staging |
| 02:13.41 | CIA-30 | from the configure task in perl to the stage task in perl-native where it |
| 02:13.41 | CIA-30 | belongs - perl shouldn't be messing with the staged perl-native. |
| 02:13.41 | CIA-30 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r3c345b9f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:13.41 | CIA-30 | perl-native 5.8.8: Apply the patch from perl to stop the .packlist files |
| 02:13.46 | CIA-30 | from being installed. Since we use perl-native to do the cpan module |
| 02:13.46 | CIA-30 | installs we need to changed perl-native as well to stop cpan modules from |
| 02:13.47 | CIA-30 | getting .packlist files. This is a new patch since just the .packlist |
| 02:13.49 | CIA-30 | related part has been extracted from the larger patch. |
| 02:13.51 | CIA-30 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r24286eb4... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 02:13.53 | CIA-30 | perl: Add the .debug directories that to FILES_${PN}-dbg in the |
| 02:13.55 | CIA-30 | cpan-base.bbclass, and then update the cpan modules to no longer manually |
| 02:13.57 | CIA-30 | specify this. Also remove references to the new removed .packlist files. |
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| 03:12.56 | summatusmentis | is there a specific DISTRO setting I need for angstrom? |
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| 04:28.04 | hvontres|home | polyonymous: ok, grabbing image now :) |
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| 05:37.31 | keesj | OE finaly starting to get handy for me! |
| 05:56.02 | hvontres|home | polyonymous: Woooot :) It boots, sound kinda works (old problem with poodle sound) Thanks for building the image for me ): |
| 05:56.24 | hvontres|home | s/):/:) |
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| 06:21.45 | CIA-30 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r67b9d3a1... 10/ (1 usermanual/Makefile usermanual/README): |
| 06:21.45 | CIA-30 | usermanual: Modify the Makefile so that "make <type>" works for the |
| 06:21.45 | CIA-30 | following types: dvi, pdf, ps, rtf, tex, texi and txt. This is in addition |
| 06:21.45 | CIA-30 | to html and xhtml were already working. Update the readme to give a guide as |
| 06:21.45 | CIA-30 | to what packages you need on the host for these to work. |
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| 07:03.50 | likewise | good morning |
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| 07:07.40 | Ifaistos | hi likewise |
| 07:07.52 | likewise | hello |
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| 07:20.05 | likewise | good morning koen |
| 07:20.19 | koen | good morning all |
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| 07:43.40 | RP | morning all |
| 07:45.01 | koen | hey RP |
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| 07:46.24 | koen | OE user manual: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/usermanual.pdf |
| 07:46.28 | likewise | morning RP, pgfeller |
| 07:46.41 | pgfeller | likewise: good morning |
| 07:47.54 | likewise | koen: bugsquash weekend for the manual? |
| 07:48.57 | koen | that would be a good idea |
| 07:49.43 | likewise | koen: yeah, you might see more animals there |
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| 07:56.53 | CIA-30 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r1d471462... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:56.53 | CIA-30 | usermanual: Work some more on the using bitbake/OE chapter. Enable it - |
| 07:56.53 | CIA-30 | while it's not great but I think there is probably a few useful items in |
| 07:56.53 | CIA-30 | there for new users now. |
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| 08:11.15 | likewise | bitbake question: As a user I would like to know the reason for skipping a package. If the .bb file parser/handler raises an exception, load_bbfile() will return skip="True". IOW: How can I debug why the exception was raised? |
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| 08:19.48 | hrw | morning |
| 08:20.08 | hrw | bitbake -DDDD tried? |
| 08:20.27 | likewise | hrw: yes, even 5 times |
| 08:20.57 | hrw | then no idea |
| 08:21.05 | XorA | looks like opie is starting to fly again :-D |
| 08:21.50 | likewise | hrw: good morning BTW |
| 08:21.54 | hrw | someone did grub setup without accessible menu? |
| 08:22.06 | likewise | hrw: long time ago, yes |
| 08:22.24 | likewise | hrw: you mean password protected, or none at all? |
| 08:22.41 | likewise | hrw: ah, you mean grub installation without having the grub-menu? |
| 08:22.53 | hrw | none (option to show on keypress would be fine) |
| 08:23.15 | likewise | hrw: yes, I did, why? |
| 08:23.32 | hrw | I am thinking about doing such one on my laptop |
| 08:23.54 | hrw | now it has pass on power on, then pass to mount rootfs/swap/home lvm |
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| 08:26.05 | RP | likewise: Does bitbake -v -DDD help? |
| 08:27.14 | likewise | RP: no. I know what is the problem (glib requiring USE_NLS="yes"), but I want this to be made clear somehow. |
| 08:27.36 | likewise | RP: because that way, I can show another issue more easily :-) |
| 08:29.22 | RP | likewise: It should show up in the debug logs... |
| 08:30.03 | v8jlene | likewise: Heh, I had that issue yesterday when trying my uclibc builds with 1.8.2 ;) The error bitbake showed was about bootstrap-image was unavailable (due to task-base pulling in cups which pulled in dbus which pulled in glib-2.0). Took ages to figure it all out... |
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| 08:30.34 | likewise | v8jlene: *exactly* the problem I was about the explain (and then another one) |
| 08:30.43 | likewise | blaster8: hi |
| 08:30.52 | blaster8 | hey there :) |
| 08:31.28 | RP | likewise: There is a bitbake bug already open about the logging of failed providers |
| 08:31.45 | RP | Its not as simple as it sounds though |
| 08:32.00 | likewise | v8jlene,rp : OK, the other problem I see is not bitbake related, but task-base related. |
| 08:33.53 | likewise | task-base will want to satisfy all dependencies of all of task-* (for example task-bluetooth), even if COMBINED_FEATURES does not include bluetooth. As bluez depends on glib, which depends on NLS, my image won't build. |
| 08:34.37 | RP | likewise: Thats a nasty one :/ |
| 08:34.39 | likewise | These are two well-hidden problems that users run into when slightly adjusting the options (USE_NLS, and stripping FEATURES). |
| 08:34.54 | v8jlene | likewise: Yeah, that task-base one's a bit annoying. I only had about 400 recipes symlinked in, now I have them all just to make task-base happy. And as you say it's building lots of stuff that you don't use. |
| 08:35.03 | likewise | RP: koen suggested that splitting up the task-* into different .bb files would solve this. |
| 08:35.08 | RP | likewise: Its debian.bbclass at fault - remove that and it will probably work |
| 08:35.41 | v8jlene | likewise: BTW, the NLS one I solved like this: include/slugos.inc:USE_NLS_glib-2.0 = "yes" |
| 08:35.48 | v8jlene | in my own distro |
| 08:36.12 | likewise | RP: OK, but suppose that we want to solve this issue (for the dumb user, such like me :-) ), would we need to fix debian.bbclass somehow, or redo task-base? |
| 08:36.39 | RP | likewise: Splitting task-base is a rather evil idea but would work. I would prefer to find another way though |
| 08:36.39 | likewise | v8jlene: isn't that dangerous to do? |
| 08:37.24 | v8jlene | likewise: No idea. But since I'm not using glib or anything that's built with glib... |
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| 08:37.38 | likewise | RP: yes. Both issues are show-stoppers for building minimal distro's currently. |
| 08:37.50 | likewise | v8jlene: does glib get build? |
| 08:38.41 | hrw | likewise: can you split task-base into separate files and make task-base DEPEND only on needed ones? |
| 08:38.51 | v8jlene | likewise: Hmmm... good question. uclibc doesn't build for me with 1.8.2 yet, so I haven't got far enough to test that yet. |
| 08:39.25 | likewise | hrw: I probably could (with some help), but I want to know first if this is the way to go, within the BB/OE framework. |
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| 08:40.13 | hrw | likewise: I like task-base idea but it really gives too much to build |
| 08:40.30 | likewise | v8jlene: let me know, because the strange this is, even glib is not build, it must be buildable in the current task-base approach. |
| 08:42.01 | likewise | hrw: yes, but that's only because it requires dependencies to be buildable (even if you do not want them). You have so satisfy these dependencies (often by enabling stuff that makes the build bigger). |
| 08:42.08 | likewise | Sorry for repeating myself, just wanted to make sure I was not the only one hitting these. :-) |
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| 08:49.37 | CIA-30 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r6dd82167... 10/ (1 classes/magicbox-image.bbclass): |
| 08:49.37 | CIA-30 | classes/magicbox-image.bbclass: Add a class that handles the generation of flash images for Magicbox |
| 08:49.37 | CIA-30 | It creates "ready-to-burn" squashfs and squashfs-lza images and a single file kernel+jffs2 image |
| 08:49.44 | CIA-30 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rf9d679b4... 10/ (1 conf/machine/magicbox.conf): |
| 08:49.44 | CIA-30 | conf/machine/magicbox.conf: Clean up the image generation parameters , inherit magicbox-image.bbclass in order to |
| 08:49.44 | CIA-30 | create "ready-to-burn" images |
| 08:49.51 | Ifaistos | in general the default OE image seems to include a lot of stuff that are not need it for small systems |
| 08:50.55 | hrw | examples? |
| 08:50.57 | Ifaistos | on a 4MB flash with jff2 (+kernel) it leaves something like 300K free |
| 08:51.55 | hrw | ok. so give example what to remove from it |
| 08:53.38 | Ifaistos | trying to get the system plugged in.... |
| 08:54.20 | likewise | hrw: In general, the minimal system OE should be able to build is a kernel + one userspace (init) program. |
| 08:55.05 | likewise | Although a default init does not make sense, init can be a custom multithreaded application provided by the user. |
| 08:55.49 | likewise | hrw, Ifaistos: We are at a 3.5 MB squashfs-lzma image, and that's still using glibc. |
| 08:56.22 | hrw | likewise: I know - but to get smaller we need to know what to remove |
| 08:57.40 | likewise | hrw: I would turn around the question: what do some minimal setups need. Because otherwise the question would become "remove from where or from what?" |
| 08:58.21 | hrw | likewise: task-boot gives small image and I do not know what to remove from it |
| 08:59.35 | Ifaistos | hrw: i think something similar to the openwrt just boot to busybox shell |
| 09:00.02 | hrw | openwrt use uclibc so they win |
| 09:00.27 | hrw | Ifaistos: task-boot should give getty login |
| 09:00.59 | Ifaistos | likewise: yes squashfs-lzma is the best option in terms of compression/sizes |
| 09:02.18 | Ifaistos | hrw: glibc or uclibc should not make a difference .The image should allow a system just to boot and provide a console... |
| 09:02.43 | hrw | then try task-boot only image |
| 09:02.45 | Ifaistos | hrw: let the rest be handled by the distro |
| 09:03.39 | likewise | hrw: that's used by bootstrap image? |
| 09:03.54 | hrw | bootstrap-image use task-base |
| 09:04.19 | hrw | angstrom-minimal-image use task-boot + ssh daemon |
| 09:05.34 | hrw | we probably need to clean up that all |
| 09:05.41 | RP | Can we please try to find a way of dealing with debian.bbclass instead of splitting up task-base. If we slpit it up, it going to make a big mess :-( |
| 09:05.53 | likewise | I'll use v8jlene's approach to work around the task-base dep issue. |
| 09:06.05 | likewise | RP: +1 for me |
| 09:06.14 | Ifaistos | yes that's the idea. |
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| 09:20.12 | ade|desk | koen|away: did you find your a780 ? |
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| 09:20.26 | ade|desk | morning all btw |
| 09:21.46 | likewise | morning ade|desk |
| 09:22.07 | likewise | v8jlene: what are your uclibc builds? powerpc only? |
| 09:27.02 | ade|desk | powerpc uclibc ... brave brave man |
| 09:27.15 | ade|desk | next brave is sparc imho |
| 09:27.50 | v8jlene | likewise: sh4 |
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| 09:45.35 | likewise | hrw: building angstrom-minimal-image fails because perl 5.8.7 won't build (not that I need it in the image, but this is the task-base issue coming up) |
| 09:45.45 | likewise | hrw: I'll try bootstrap-image instead. |
| 09:46.34 | hrw | both use task-base recipe |
| 09:50.25 | likewise | hrw: yes, I have now removed debian.bbclass to see if the deps disappear |
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| 10:01.48 | likewise | hrw, v8jlene, Ifaistos: without debian class, after rm -rf build/tmp/cache, I still get all the deps build (such as cups, which is depended upon by bluez-utils, etc). |
| 10:02.02 | likewise | hrw, v8jlene, Ifaistos: (that's for bootstrap-image, btw) |
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| 10:33.20 | Laibsch | koen|away: the Copyright notive is incorrectly parsed from the xml http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/usermanual.pdf. You should add ", " between the names. |
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| 10:56.43 | Laibsch | Copyright notice |
| 11:02.36 | polyonymous | How many programmers does it take to change a light bulb? One hundred. One to hold the bulb and 99 to debug the house. |
| 11:02.41 | polyonymous | That is, good morning. |
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| 11:04.48 | hrw | polyonymous: or none as this is hardware problem |
| 11:05.19 | polyonymous | hrw, yup. And "How many hardware engineers it take? None, we'll fix it in software" |
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| 11:11.11 | Laibsch | => hrw is an engineer |
| 11:11.16 | Laibsch | ;-) |
| 11:11.28 | polyonymous | hardware or software or both? :) |
| 11:12.19 | Laibsch|gone | my last two lines made no sense |
| 11:12.27 | Laibsch|gone | I was making an incorrect inference |
| 11:13.06 | polyonymous | who cares as long as you're |gone :) |
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| 11:14.54 | hrw | polyonymous: rather software then hardware |
| 11:15.17 | polyonymous | Thought so. Your nick may sound misleading though :) |
| 11:15.18 | Laibsch|gone | polyonymous: You want me to be gone |
| 11:15.28 | Laibsch | Here you are ;-) |
| 11:15.36 | polyonymous | Laibsch, it wasn't me who did your /nick :)) |
| 11:15.42 | Laibsch | I postponed shopping |
| 11:16.29 | polyonymous | so, having amd64 means I'm out of luck with qemu? |
| 11:16.37 | Laibsch | polyonymous: "as long as your gone" could be interpreted as "thank goodness he is gone" which I know you did not mean. Was just picking a pun |
| 11:17.04 | Laibsch | polyonymous: I think there was a workaround in the bug, wasn't there` |
| 11:17.06 | Laibsch | But yes, AMD64 has lots of issues |
| 11:17.12 | Laibsch | well, not the chip |
| 11:17.16 | Laibsch | but software support |
| 11:17.43 | polyonymous | Laibsch, ;-) It's up to you to interpret, but as you pointed out, I didn't mean that exactly. It was more like "nevermind, we don't have to push this senseless argument" :) |
| 11:17.46 | polyonymous | Yeah |
| 11:17.56 | polyonymous | I think precompiled 32 bit binaries may help, tho. |
| 11:18.18 | polyonymous | I'm more concerned about failing bitbake gcc of all the bugs I can't resolve. |
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| 11:29.35 | CIA-30 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r05bae6b6... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): usermanual.xml: denominate for useless use of cat award ;-) |
| 11:31.14 | polyonymous | I take it konqueror-embedded current versions are all totally broken and it may make sense to try the latest 2007 one from bugzilla? |
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| 11:56.45 | psokolovsky | victor_rx1950: so, what's exactly your problem? GettingStarted should describe what you should have in local.conf |
| 11:56.47 | victor_rx1950 | psokolovsky: i set BBFILES like in wiki |
| 11:57.20 | victor_rx1950 | psokolovsky: and TARGET_ARCH would be arm? |
| 11:58.08 | Laibsch | polyonymous: I think a clean start might be the best solution indeed. |
| 11:58.09 | psokolovsky | victor_rx1950: no, generally, besides paths, all you need to set is MACHINE and DISTRO |
| 11:58.20 | Laibsch | polyonymous: Got RW access yet? |
| 11:58.21 | psokolovsky | victor_rx1950: machine should exist of course ;-) |
| 11:58.42 | victor_rx1950 | psokolovsky: where i can look list of machines? |
| 11:58.45 | polyonymous | Laibsch, Just wanted to make sure, I can't break it (that is - it ain't fixed:)) |
| 11:58.51 | psokolovsky | victor_rx1950: her's my local.conf: http://pastebin.ca/470618 , but note it contain much more stuff than you need or should use ;-) |
| 11:59.05 | victor_rx1950 | thx |
| 11:59.07 | polyonymous | Laibsch, not that I'm aware of, but I do not have the commit ready (that is for konq), yet :) |
| 11:59.24 | psokolovsky | victor_rx1950: under config/ dir. spend some time looking thru OE tree first - both source, and build tmp/ |
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| 12:02.39 | hrw | ~curse mozilla build |
| 12:02.42 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, mozilla build ! |
| 12:06.53 | XorA | hrw: you crazy fool |
| 12:07.20 | hrw | XorA: ;D |
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| 12:10.24 | xjqian | which package provides glib2.0? |
| 12:20.53 | hrw | glib-2.0 |
| 12:26.03 | Laibsch | polyonymous: you sent out that key? |
| 12:26.24 | polyonymous | Laibsch, yup. Assuming, monotonephrasebook has correct email addresses :) |
| 12:26.54 | polyonymous | Laibsch, I wouldn't be surprised if guys had better things to do and just didn't have time. |
| 12:27.02 | hrw | XorA: check claws-mail in Poky - Tomas did some UI changes to make it better fit in VGA |
| 12:27.09 | polyonymous | See no reason for nagging them. |
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| 12:28.10 | xjqian | hrw: sorry. I missed it |
| 12:28.18 | xjqian | hrw:thanks |
| 12:28.55 | Laibsch | polyonymous: well, especially since you sent them out within the last 12 hours or so. Nagging would be kinda pushy ;-) |
| 12:29.05 | polyonymous | Laibsch, exactly my point. |
| 12:29.35 | polyonymous | Laibsch, it's not like I can't sit here and hack around konq, without the key :) |
| 12:30.09 | polyonymous | Laibsch, upon receiving access I'd have to "waste" time on reading more of mtn docs, right now I'd rather hack konq instead :) |
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| 12:46.12 | hrw | shit.. Z lack wifi stuff |
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| 12:46.25 | hrw | hi Thomas |
| 12:47.07 | thesing | hi Marcin |
| 12:47.44 | XorA | hey thesing |
| 12:47.59 | hrw | ~curse usb |
| 12:48.12 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, usb ! |
| 12:48.12 | thesing | hi XorA |
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| 12:49.51 | thesing | suspend on collie works now. But the battery driver doesn't work after resume. (I think its the ucb driver.) |
| 12:50.06 | XorA | thesing: cool |
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| 12:52.37 | thesing | nearly every collie specific driver doesn't seem to like suspending... :( |
| 12:52.56 | polyonymous | on spitz, my g-ether can't survive suspend. |
| 12:53.03 | polyonymous | That is, even unloaded and reloaded. |
| 12:53.20 | polyonymous | it never sees the link afterwards. |
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| 13:08.22 | hrw | !oebug 1253 |
| 13:08.23 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1253, Status: REOPENED, Created: 2006-07-30 00:06 |
| 13:08.24 | cdbot2 | * * oe_bugs(AT)matt.kincaid.name: 2.6.17 kernel on Tosa fails to recognize NAND partitions |
| 13:08.25 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1253 |
| 13:08.42 | hrw | do13: we do not support resizing flash and do not plan to - right? |
| 13:11.42 | hrw | !oebug 1253 |
| 13:11.43 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1253, Status: RESOLVED (WONTFIX), Created: 2006-07-30 00:06 |
| 13:11.44 | cdbot2 | * * oe_bugs(AT)matt.kincaid.name: 2.6.17 kernel on Tosa fails to recognize NAND partitions |
| 13:11.44 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1253 |
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| 13:28.48 | xjqian | I got a little confused in this page: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/UpgradingPackages |
| 13:29.14 | hrw | because? |
| 13:29.31 | polyonymous | xjqian, just the way to preserve history. What's confusing? |
| 13:29.36 | xjqian | you do mean to `cp packages/$pkg/$file_v2.bb packages/$pkg/$file_v1.bb` before making any change to $file_v2.bb do you? |
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| 13:30.31 | xjqian | or is it really before the final step? |
| 13:31.03 | polyonymous | xjqian, I'd put it as `mtn mv v1 v2`, `cp v1 v2`, `mtn add v1` |
| 13:31.04 | xjqian | i.e. after making changes to $file_v2.bb? |
| 13:31.33 | polyonymous | Before making any changes. |
| 13:31.40 | polyonymous | In case you want to preserve old package. |
| 13:31.44 | xjqian | yeah, that makes more sense to me |
| 13:31.45 | polyonymous | If you don't, just mtn mv -e v1 v2 |
| 13:32.31 | polyonymous | Basically, the result is the same, except for the page gets you to move -e and then copy back. From mtn POV it's the same. |
| 13:32.42 | xjqian | but the description " before the final step" really make people feel the other way |
| 13:33.01 | polyonymous | xjqian, I hardly read the wording, snippets were enough for me :) |
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| 13:33.29 | Jin^eLD | huhu |
| 13:33.34 | polyonymous | huhu |
| 13:33.45 | Jin^eLD | :> |
| 13:35.46 | xjqian | btw, the latest mtn 0.3.4 seems not supporting the -e switch anymore. anybody can confirm? |
| 13:36.10 | hrw | --execute one? |
| 13:36.29 | polyonymous | xjqian, 0.34 you mean? I have 0.33... |
| 13:36.40 | polyonymous | hrw, I think yes, mtn mv -e |
| 13:36.47 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.47 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.47 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.47 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.48 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.59 | xjqian | yes, I use 0.34 |
| 13:37.01 | polyonymous | ah, just reverted defaults. |
| 13:37.05 | hrw | yes |
| 13:37.33 | hrw | wow! ssh-agent support in monotone! :DD |
| 13:38.05 | polyonymous | I never got to use ssh-agent yet... shame on me. |
| 13:38.40 | polyonymous | hrw, do you, by chance, know the answer to my question in #opie? |
| 13:38.40 | xjqian | hrw: thanks for the explanation of this change |
| 13:41.58 | hrw | db migrate took <1m |
| 13:42.19 | polyonymous | is it safe to migrate with dirty working area? |
| 13:42.41 | hrw | should be |
| 13:42.55 | polyonymous | ok. just wondering. Not that I'm going to do it right away. |
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| 14:12.46 | hrw | ERROR: This autoconf log indicates errors, it looked at host includes. Rerun configure task after fixing this. Path was '/home/hrw/devel/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/firefox-1.0.7-r0/mozilla' |
| 14:12.50 | hrw | ;d |
| 14:15.09 | XorA | insane is approtriately neamed for firefox |
| 14:19.59 | polyonymous | hrw, I bet it picks up some *-config script from host... |
| 14:20.32 | hrw | anyway I got 2.0.0.3 built. but it will probably does not work (as usual) |
| 14:20.39 | polyonymous | snafu :) |
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| 14:29.50 | hvontres|poodle | polyonymous: hehe... |
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| 14:40.39 | xjqian | PR = should or usually start from r0 or r1 |
| 14:40.59 | polyonymous | I think omitted PR == r0 |
| 14:41.48 | xjqian | so if set it explicitly, should start from r1 |
| 14:41.50 | xjqian | ? |
| 14:42.02 | NAiL | When I omit PR, it has a tendency to set the PR to "0", not "r0" |
| 14:42.14 | zecke | bullshit |
| 14:42.18 | polyonymous | hmm.. I think not. |
| 14:42.22 | zecke | check conf/bitbake.conf |
| 14:42.28 | zecke | PR = "r0" should be there... |
| 14:42.40 | NAiL | zecke: possible |
| 14:42.46 | NAiL | Dunno why that happened |
| 14:42.47 | polyonymous | NAiL, you summoned evil bitbake spirit :) |
| 14:42.50 | NAiL | haha |
| 14:43.36 | xjqian | this is not important at all, but just think I'd ask if you guys has a hard line set for this |
| 14:43.47 | xjqian | well, anyway ... |
| 14:44.23 | polyonymous | well, you see, opinions are like assholes - everyone has one. |
| 14:44.58 | zecke | xjqian: if you omit PR it is taken from conf/bitbake.conf, it starts at "r0" (unless you changed it in your local.conf) |
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| 14:45.22 | zecke | xjqian: normally PR = "r0" is omitted from the .bb files |
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| 14:48.28 | xjqian | I understand that. I'm asking what's the best/common practice. So what's the first version number people start with their bb file? 0? 1? or everybody to his own? |
| 14:49.11 | zecke | r1 |
| 14:49.12 | xjqian | this is open source project. so probably the last one! |
| 14:49.37 | zecke | xjqian: well, for every change effecting the resulting package you increment it by one :) |
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| 14:50.52 | xjqian | zecke: yeah, at least I had that bit of common sense8-). I am asking what if you start from fresh. |
| 14:53.41 | xjqian | well, I take it as "everybody to his own". not worth anymore discussion. thanks for all replied. I'm leaving... |
| 14:54.56 | polyonymous | xjqian, do not put any PR for the first package ever. |
| 14:56.44 | zecke | First package == r0. As r0 is inside bitbake.conf omit from the bbfile |
| 14:57.41 | polyonymous | my suggestion really amounts to "get back to the problem when you really have it" :) |
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| 15:07.04 | xjqian | polyonymous: got your spirit. thanks |
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| 15:13.35 | xjqian | do you guys have a list of what can be put in SECTION = " " ? Does SECTION determines where the package goes to in the feed? |
| 15:14.10 | xjqian | if so, the list is the feed skeleton, isn't it? |
| 15:15.18 | psokolovsky | xjqian: yes, and yes, there's a section list in OE manual |
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| 15:22.49 | xjqian | psokolovsky: will read koen's new release of OE manual this weekend. thanks |
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| 15:46.26 | koen | re |
| 15:48.19 | hrw | hi koen |
| 15:50.49 | koen | hey hrw |
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| 15:52.13 | hrw | koen: how goes rpath changes? |
| 15:52.23 | koen | hrw: no idea |
| 15:52.32 | koen | Crofton and likewise are more into it |
| 15:53.03 | Crofton | I have been very busy with real work :( |
| 15:53.11 | likewise | hrw: not very well, I'm lacking libtool/autoconf/configure knowledge to find the sources of evil. |
| 15:53.46 | Crofton | If I get a chance, what package shoud I look at? |
| 15:54.03 | koen | I like RP's install patch, but we need to (re)fix do_deploy |
| 15:54.34 | likewise | priority for me is the issue discussed this morning (task-base and glib-2.0/NLS, and reporting of failed providers in BB) |
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| 15:54.59 | likewise | Crofton: this looks like a nice bug to fix as it's a standalone pkg: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 |
| 15:55.01 | koen | I agree with RP that splitting up task-base will lead to a mess |
| 15:55.30 | koen | likewise: we could special-case gcc-cross(-initial) in the rpath check |
| 15:55.39 | likewise | koen: the suggestions that it was debian class related seems false. I can reproduce without debian as well. |
| 15:56.13 | likewise | koen: yes, the old test (against ../work) already skipped gcc-cross. Shall I revert to that search string (works here)? |
| 15:56.39 | Crofton | Has the fix to gcc-cross been committed? |
| 15:56.43 | koen | I think RPATH shouldn't contain work nor staging |
| 15:57.25 | likewise | Crofton: which fix?rpath fix?? |
| 15:57.45 | Crofton | gcc-cross was faling on rpath, right? |
| 16:03.16 | Crofton | ok, just updated and am baking madplay |
| 16:03.21 | Crofton | I'll see where that takes me |
| 16:04.23 | likewise | Crofton: yes, but there was no fix yet (AFAIK) |
| 16:07.32 | xjqian | lots of bb "inherit pkgconfig", but lots among them don't use <x>.pc. Is it because people are lazy (don't bother to check whether there are .pc files in the src)? What's the best practice if I've checked that there are no .pc files: fail safe to always inherit pkgconfig or keep the bb file slim? |
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| 16:12.29 | hrw | its safe to inherit but can be removed if not needed |
| 16:13.22 | koen | it could even be inherited by default in base.bbclass safely |
| 16:14.14 | xjqian | koen: that's what I thought. If it's always there and safe, why not default it |
| 16:16.08 | hrw | and then binconfig? |
| 16:18.08 | likewise | xjqian, koen: Maybe we should add this to the insane.bbclass? |
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| 16:29.02 | xjqian | Laibsch: that's me. :) |
| 16:30.18 | xjqian | Laibsch: ...reading that page with a little dissatisfaction :) |
| 16:30.28 | Laibsch | it is a wiki |
| 16:30.53 | xjqian | you want me to modify it a little bit |
| 16:30.55 | Laibsch | But luckily it is not only you, the main devs seem to keep follow the advice, too |
| 16:31.17 | Laibsch | xjqian: Sure. I will revert your changes if I don't like them :-D |
| 16:32.27 | Laibsch | xjqian: I don't think that page is really for you |
| 16:32.44 | Laibsch | xjqian: It serves only people with RW access to OE repo |
| 16:33.06 | Laibsch | Unless you have that you can safely ignore it |
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| 16:38.54 | xjqian | I just made it clear that you want to mtn add the original version of the bb file back in. not the revised new version |
| 16:39.48 | xjqian | wiki change committed, please feel free to revert |
| 16:45.27 | Laibsch | thesing: Is there a way to gather the needed info for you to add support for non-working cards into the driver? |
| 16:45.43 | Laibsch | I though an SD was basically just an SD |
| 16:46.28 | koen | Laibsch: the sd and mmc specs have multiple revisions and vague parts |
| 16:46.38 | koen | and not every SD cards conforms to the spec iirc |
| 16:46.51 | koen | (just like usb) |
| 16:47.58 | thesing | Laibsch: Yes. use the modules compile with debug-info, do "echo "1" > /sys/bus/locomo-bus/drivers/locomo-spi/verbose" and insert a card. |
| 16:49.02 | thesing | Laibsch: But you will get a lot output. |
| 16:49.28 | hrw | thesing: no problem |
| 16:49.36 | Laibsch | thesing: I got a ton of lines scrolling by on the screen |
| 16:49.52 | Laibsch | thesing: I will redirect them into a file and attach to the BTS. |
| 16:49.56 | hrw | Laibsch: you need serial cable for it |
| 16:50.10 | hrw | syslog is too slow |
| 16:50.39 | Laibsch | hrw: I don't have a serial cable, but see above |
| 16:50.44 | Laibsch | I think that might work |
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| 16:50.57 | koen | dmesg buffer is too small? |
| 16:51.01 | hrw | Laibsch: I had that problem ~year ago |
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| 16:51.05 | hrw | koen: much too small |
| 16:51.12 | hvontres|poodle | Does anybody here have experience debugging problems in pxafb? I would like to work on a fix for #2120 |
| 16:51.23 | Laibsch | hrw: Redirection to a file is not possible??? |
| 16:51.58 | hrw | Laibsch: can try via syslog |
| 16:52.04 | thesing | Laibsch: What is the problem with your cards are they recognized? |
| 16:52.32 | Laibsch | thesing: I am the one with all the bug reports in the BTS |
| 16:53.33 | thesing | Laibsch: I know ;) |
| 16:54.32 | Laibsch | thesing: You are talking about all the stuff flying by on the console, are you? |
| 16:54.44 | Laibsch | So I do not need to activate anything further, right? |
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| 16:55.32 | thesing | Wrong. |
| 16:56.13 | Laibsch | OK |
| 16:56.18 | Laibsch | Then I will do that |
| 16:56.28 | Laibsch | How do I redirect output into a file? |
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| 16:56.43 | Laibsch | I know how to do that generally |
| 16:56.56 | thesing | You will see every byte the card sees and writes ;) |
| 16:57.39 | Laibsch | How to capture? |
| 16:58.59 | thesing | I'm not sure. Maybe something like "cat > file 2>1" ? |
| 16:59.13 | Laibsch | Well, that I know ;-) |
| 16:59.25 | Laibsch | Question is *what* to capture |
| 16:59.35 | Laibsch | IOW, where is this normally written to? |
| 17:00.15 | thesing | I don't know |
| 17:00.30 | koen | kernel log buffer -> syslog iirc |
| 17:01.15 | hrw | ok. collie booted |
| 17:02.58 | Laibsch | koen: I already tested /var/log/syslog which is not there |
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| 17:03.44 | hrw | its about 5KB/s |
| 17:03.56 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.10 | hrw | koen: no - minicom logging |
| 17:04.29 | koen | hrw: I was talking to Laibsch :) |
| 17:04.46 | hrw | ;D |
| 17:04.49 | Laibsch | koen: Only file in /var/log is wtmp |
| 17:04.57 | Laibsch | But hrw already told you ;-) |
| 17:06.52 | hrw | thesing: http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/collie-log.text.bz2 is card insert of my 512M sd card (not recognized) |
| 17:07.16 | hrw | 1.1M uncompressed, 10K compressed |
| 17:07.59 | thesing | Laibsch: you have to edit /etc/syslog.conf to get a logfile. |
| 17:07.59 | thesing | hrw: thanks. |
| 17:08.12 | hrw | thesing: look inside and tell does it is usefull. if yes then I can test other cards |
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| 17:08.58 | Laibsch | hrw: Would be cool if you attached that to the BTS |
| 17:09.13 | Laibsch | I will write up how to capture this info (unless you beat me to it) |
| 17:09.39 | hrw | which bug? |
| 17:09.49 | hrw | !oebug 2161 |
| 17:09.51 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2161, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-29 07:48 |
| 17:09.52 | hrw | this? |
| 17:09.52 | cdbot2 | * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: unrecognized cards with new collie SD card driver |
| 17:09.53 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2161 |
| 17:09.53 | Laibsch | There is a collie meta-bug which links it |
| 17:09.59 | Laibsch | Yes, that is the one |
| 17:10.28 | Laibsch | I think that is where we should discuss unsupported cards |
| 17:11.17 | Laibsch | hrw: What did you add to syslog.conf to make it work? |
| 17:11.32 | hrw | nothing |
| 17:11.35 | Laibsch | Just looking at it I would have thought it already produces a log |
| 17:11.45 | Laibsch | hrw: So how did you capture? |
| 17:12.26 | hrw | Laibsch: kernel sends all to serial |
| 17:12.33 | Laibsch | Lucky ouy |
| 17:12.35 | Laibsch | you |
| 17:12.41 | hrw | Laibsch: serial connected to laptop. laptop runs minicom |
| 17:12.41 | thesing | hrw: The log is nearly useful. The version of the driver you used has a typo, which I already fixed locally I will update the patches. |
| 17:13.03 | Laibsch | thesing: Can you help me with syslog.conf? |
| 17:13.04 | hrw | Laibsch: we need to organize amazon buy of ce-170ts cables? |
| 17:13.37 | Laibsch | I usually don't use a serial cable |
| 17:13.41 | thesing | Laibsch: yes. wait a moment. |
| 17:13.51 | Laibsch | thesing: DESTINATION? |
| 17:14.05 | thesing | file |
| 17:14.59 | Laibsch | hrw: Well, I'd have 5$ to spare, though ;-) |
| 17:15.18 | thesing | for LOGFILE I use a file in /tmp the flash is much too little for the huge logs ;) |
| 17:16.00 | hrw | Laibsch: but amazon does not sell electronics outside US |
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| 17:16.18 | Laibsch | hrw: I have contacts in the US |
| 17:16.37 | hrw | Laibsch: then buy few cables |
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| 17:17.29 | Laibsch | Maybe it would be even easier to ask one of the guys hanging around here |
| 17:17.40 | Laibsch | hvontres|home: Are you listening ;-) ? |
| 17:17.46 | hrw | Crofton|home: ping? |
| 17:18.11 | hrw | thesing: I assume that you have serial cable - right? |
| 17:18.26 | thesing | hrw: Your collie kernel is not current. OE already includes the latest mmc-patches. |
| 17:18.32 | thesing | hrw: right. |
| 17:19.06 | hrw | thesing: ok. will build newer |
| 17:19.50 | thesing | current modules should do. |
| 17:20.02 | hrw | mmc-spi r4? |
| 17:20.25 | thesing | yes. but the important one is locomo-spi r3 |
| 17:20.34 | hrw | ok |
| 17:20.35 | Laibsch | thesing: I put in a line "FILE=/tmp/syslog" and restarted syslog |
| 17:21.54 | thesing | Laibsch: it should be LOGFILE |
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| 17:22.17 | Laibsch | thesing: It already had a LOGFILE line |
| 17:22.25 | Laibsch | set to /var/log/messages which was not there |
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| 17:22.45 | koen | Laibsch: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/busybox/busybox-1.2.1/angstrom/syslog.conf |
| 17:23.30 | mreimer_ | morning |
| 17:24.17 | koen | mreimer_: good morning! |
| 17:24.44 | hrw | hi mreimer_ |
| 17:26.08 | thesing | Laibsch: you need to comment the ROTATE* lines out. |
| 17:27.00 | Laibsch | got syslog working now |
| 17:27.30 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: ping |
| 17:27.36 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: pong |
| 17:28.20 | Laibsch | Can you scroll back to our serial cable discussion and tell us if you can help us? |
| 17:28.32 | Laibsch | We are looking for a buyer/shipper in the US. |
| 17:28.42 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: which will send stuff to europe |
| 17:28.43 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: I might be able to :) |
| 17:28.48 | Laibsch | Cool |
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| 17:29.07 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: how many do you guys think you need? |
| 17:29.13 | Laibsch | no idea |
| 17:29.17 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Zaurus-SL-5500-CE-170TS-RS-232C/dp/B0000645V7 is url |
| 17:29.21 | Laibsch | I don't really need it |
| 17:29.31 | Laibsch | But it is too cheap to pass ;-) |
| 17:29.59 | thesing | Laibsch: if you get "locomospi: tx: " lines in the log, you need to update the mmc modules too. |
| 17:29.59 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: I guess we should look around and then come back to you |
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| 17:30.42 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: I think that we can get 10 cables for start |
| 17:30.45 | Laibsch | thesing: OK. Do you know if koen's image from April 22nd has the debug info turned on? Otherwise I'd need to build first and reflash |
| 17:31.44 | hrw | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `drivers/mmc/mmc_spi.c', needed by `drivers/mmc/mmc_spi.o'. Stop. |
| 17:32.26 | thesing | Laibsch: they had. but I updated the drivers on April 24 . |
| 17:32.57 | thesing | hrw: I thought I already corrected this ... |
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| 17:33.24 | goxboxlive | I am trying to build x11 image (angstrom distro) but it failes when making prismstumbler. Is this s known bug? : pastebin.co.uk/14016 |
| 17:33.30 | Laibsch | thesing: I only have /sys/bus/locomo-bus/drivers/locomo-backlight, not /sys/bus/locomo-bus/drivers/locomo-spi so I guess a recompile is in order, right? |
| 17:33.45 | Laibsch | thesing: OK, I will recompile |
| 17:34.07 | thesing | Laibsch: did you load the modules? |
| 17:34.10 | hrw | Laibsch: modprobe locomo_spi |
| 17:34.26 | hrw | goxboxlive: prismstumbler? iirc yes - check bugtracker please |
| 17:34.40 | koen | goxboxlive: have you searched bugzilla? |
| 17:35.27 | thesing | hrw: Yes I was right: mmc_spi-r4.patch creates this file. |
| 17:35.47 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: how do you guys want to handle this? I can give you my paypal account |
| 17:36.13 | hrw | thesing: 675d93727582e370a9a1b4d4f4c42c57 patches/mmc_spi-r4.patch |
| 17:37.24 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: I can pay for cables. you will get them from amazon and then send do the ones who needs them. they pay post costs |
| 17:37.54 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: ok, sounds good. |
| 17:38.01 | hrw | Laibsch: write mail to oz-devel/angstrom-devel about that offer - maybe few other non-US guys will want cable too |
| 17:38.28 | hrw | ce-170ts is not comfortable cable but it is very cheap ;D |
| 17:38.40 | thesing | hrw: I have a different one. (if this is a md5 sum) |
| 17:38.54 | hrw | thesing: I see |
| 17:39.55 | hrw | thesing: my is without mmc-spi.c file.. |
| 17:40.32 | hrw | reapplied patch, building |
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| 17:43.04 | thesing | BTW: it would be best if you could give both a short a verbose log of nonworking cards. |
| 17:44.09 | hrw | short and verbose? you mean with locomo debug and without? |
| 17:44.20 | hrw | reverse :) |
| 17:44.36 | hrw | I can provide you such one |
| 17:44.40 | thesing | exactly |
| 17:44.44 | hrw | but probably not today |
| 17:46.58 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: Cables Ordered :) |
| 17:51.55 | hrw | how many? and how much for you? |
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| 17:52.44 | Laibsch | hrw: "I can pay for cables. you will get them from amazon and then send do the ones who needs them. they pay post costs" -> did you mean shipped individually from the US? |
| 17:52.52 | Laibsch | I think that is going to get expensive |
| 17:52.57 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: 10@$63.99 what is your e-mail and I'll forward you the Confirmation |
| 17:53.09 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: openembedded@hrw.one.pl |
| 17:53.25 | hrw | Laibsch: we can get pack from hvontres|poodle and share them in europe |
| 17:53.30 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: sent |
| 17:53.43 | Laibsch | hrw: Yes, I think bulk shipping to Europe is better |
| 17:53.58 | hrw | Laibsch: sure |
| 17:54.03 | thesing | BTW: I put my current quilt patch stack at www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tkunze/zaurus/patches/quilt_stack. Just in case somebody wants to test the nearly ready suspend. |
| 17:54.16 | hrw | Laibsch: so you will handle European part |
| 17:54.23 | Laibsch | If you want me to |
| 17:54.57 | hrw | Laibsch: I have one such cable already and no need for second |
| 17:55.06 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: I'll let you know when they show up. Any hints on how to get them through customs cheaply ? |
| 17:55.08 | hrw | Laibsch: you lack one so you have interest in it |
| 17:55.23 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: you have only poodle? |
| 17:55.26 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: I was thinking about that |
| 17:55.32 | koen | hvontres|poodle: declare them as gift usually works |
| 17:56.00 | hrw | Laibsch: you check cable with spitz - if it will work in both ways then send one to Richard |
| 17:56.09 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: First of all, it needs to be declared as a gift. No invoices or such things inside. Then I guess crummy "mum-and-dad" packaging may help |
| 17:56.10 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: yup. and right now the sharp cable wouldn't work anyways |
| 17:56.29 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: I can do that :) |
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| 17:56.59 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: I will send you my address |
| 17:57.30 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: I think there is also a value threshold, something like 35€ or so. |
| 17:57.41 | Laibsch | I will check up on it and let you know |
| 17:57.55 | hvontres|poodle | !oebug 2096 |
| 17:57.57 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2096, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-09 08:20 |
| 17:57.58 | cdbot2 | * * hvontres(AT)sbcglobal.net: 2.6 Kernel on Poodle disables VCC (Pin11) on IO connector |
| 17:57.58 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2096 |
| 17:59.29 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: Don't forget to move that one away from OZ or it is at risk of being autoclosed with WONTFIX ;-) |
| 18:01.08 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: I'll test it on Angstom tonight. it should do the same thing tho.. |
| 18:01.49 | Laibsch | I assume so, yes |
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| 18:03.55 | zecke | wow, important news. "Don't hug the queen" |
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| 18:04.11 | hvontres|poodle | zecke: ???????????? |
| 18:04.16 | koen | germany has a queen? |
| 18:04.36 | zecke | koen: hehe, the queen of the U.K. Just came in the news :) |
| 18:04.41 | mreimer_ | "I didn't vote for her" |
| 18:04.42 | hvontres|poodle | koen: I think Germany has lots of "Queens" ...:) |
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| 18:18.50 | mrdata | hi all |
| 18:18.56 | woglinde | hi mrdata |
| 18:19.28 | mrdata | woglinde: hi, have you test the new patches for kernel 2.6.21? |
| 18:22.00 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: Got my message in private IRC? |
| 18:22.37 | woglinde | mrdata no net yet |
| 18:22.50 | woglinde | my actual project is porting phoneme to qt4 |
| 18:23.05 | mrdata | woglinde: no problem |
| 18:23.19 | woglinde | mrdata hm I also started to look in the sound driver |
| 18:23.26 | woglinde | to ported it to 2.4 |
| 18:23.31 | woglinde | aeh 2.6 |
| 18:23.54 | woglinde | it seems not to difficult |
| 18:23.57 | mrdata | woglinde: a new one or the old oss driver? |
| 18:24.11 | woglinde | mrdata when port it to alsa |
| 18:24.35 | mrdata | woglinde: alsa (soc) would be the right solution i think |
| 18:24.57 | woglinde | but but first needed is the mcp/ucb sound stuff I guess |
| 18:25.42 | mrdata | woglinde: yes |
| 18:26.19 | thesing | hi mrdata |
| 18:26.31 | mrdata | woglinde: for kernel 2.4 i had never sound working |
| 18:26.37 | mrdata | thesing: hi ;-) |
| 18:26.48 | woglinde | mrdata hu? |
| 18:26.51 | thesing | mrdata: Does the mcp driver work on simpad after resume? |
| 18:27.18 | thesing | mrdata: I only get timeouts |
| 18:27.41 | mrdata | thesing: not realy, i must build it as module, unload it while suspend and reload after resume, then need to start ts_test |
| 18:28.41 | mrdata | thesing: you must unload/load ucb1x00_ts and mcp_sa11x0 |
| 18:29.25 | thesing | mrdata: the touchscreen works after suspend, but I get no battery voltage |
| 18:29.59 | mrdata | thesing: battery is measured over your locomo right? |
| 18:30.19 | mrdata | thesing: or also over ucb1200 adc |
| 18:31.26 | thesing | mrdata: over ucb |
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| 18:32.31 | mrdata | thesing: battery measurment works after suspend |
| 18:33.58 | thesing | mrdata: thanks. |
| 18:34.09 | mrdata | thesing: i have a ucb1x00-simpad module and this works also after suspend |
| 18:35.36 | thesing | mrdata: where can I find the patch for this module? |
| 18:36.47 | hvontres|poodle | ~change 64 USD to pln |
| 18:37.03 | hvontres|poodle | ~change 64 usd to pln |
| 18:38.43 | mrdata | thesing: i have only a local one, why we would make a "new" battery-monitor driver, using the new battery-class from hh.org kernel |
| 18:39.10 | mrdata | thesing: but i could send you my version, if you wish |
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| 18:40.47 | mrdata | thesing: and this module is for measurment simpad accu-voltage, power-supply-voltage and charging "current" |
| 18:41.05 | thesing | mrdata: Do you still have my email address? |
| 18:41.30 | mrdata | thesing: i should have it from last week i think |
| 18:42.45 | mrdata | thesing: i have you email address ;-) |
| 18:43.50 | thesing | mrdata: Ok. Then let the homer fly. |
| 18:43.56 | Laibsch | xjqian: You caught an important logical error. Thank you. |
| 18:45.03 | hrw | re |
| 18:45.07 | Laibsch | wb |
| 18:45.12 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: mail me your paypal account |
| 18:48.56 | thesing | mrdata: can you tell me where in der hh.org kernel tree the battery-class is? |
| 18:49.33 | hrw | thesing: battery driver is extracted by bd2 into separate git tree |
| 18:49.58 | hrw | thesing: http://git.infradead.org/?p=users/cbou/battery2-2.6.git |
| 18:50.17 | thesing | hrw: thanks. |
| 18:50.41 | hrw | thesing: it will be used in olpc and it was blessed by dmwm2 |
| 18:55.36 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: sent |
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| 18:55.54 | hrw | mail to oz-devel/angstrom-devel sent too |
| 18:56.18 | mrdata | thesing: mail is send, and comes from googlemail |
| 18:56.56 | thesing | mrdata: I got it. Thanks. |
| 18:57.11 | Laibsch | thesing: I attached both a verbose and non-verbose log to bug 2161 |
| 18:57.14 | Laibsch | http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1416 |
| 18:57.18 | Laibsch | http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1419 |
| 18:57.19 | mrdata | thesing: have fun with it |
| 18:58.40 | Laibsch | thesing: I do see the tx stuff, so I guess I will need to recompile |
| 18:58.45 | thesing | Laibsch: sorry but you didn't use the latest modules |
| 18:59.17 | hrw | Laibsch: I will give you latest |
| 18:59.43 | thesing | hrw: you are too fast ;) |
| 19:00.06 | Laibsch | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/collie/20070422/modules-2.6.20.6-collie.tgz ? |
| 19:00.21 | hrw | no - they are old |
| 19:00.28 | Laibsch | OK |
| 19:02.47 | hrw | Laibsch: http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/collie/t.tar.gz |
| 19:02.50 | hrw | in a moment |
| 19:02.54 | hrw | now ;) |
| 19:04.43 | Laibsch | got it |
| 19:06.27 | hrw | ~hail thesing for locomo-spi r3 |
| 19:06.37 | ibot | ACTION bows down to thesing for locomo-spi r3 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 19:06.38 | hrw | thesing: rulz |
| 19:07.13 | Crofton | http://www.mistralsoftware.com/html/product/omap_products/products-omap2430_starterkit.php |
| 19:07.23 | hrw | thesing: mmcblk0: mmc0:0000 SD512 500224KiB |
| 19:07.24 | thesing | hrw: your card works now? |
| 19:07.27 | hrw | yes |
| 19:08.23 | thesing | to be exact: this fix was done in mm_spi-r4 ;) |
| 19:08.26 | hrw | ok |
| 19:08.44 | hrw | now 1GB one |
| 19:09.56 | hrw | thesing: mmcblk0: mmc0:0000 SD 976896KiB |
| 19:11.08 | hrw | now md5sum test |
| 19:11.10 | woglinde | lol |
| 19:11.44 | hrw | root@collie:~$ for f in `seq 1 3`;do time md5sum /dev/mmcblk0 >>/tmp/md5sums;done |
| 19:11.59 | hrw | this will take some time... |
| 19:12.38 | hrw | thesing: after that test I will check rs-mmc and microsd cards |
| 19:13.40 | thesing | maybe you should build non-debug modules and test with them. the md5sum test will be much faster. |
| 19:15.06 | mrdata | thesing: witch transfer rates for read and write are now for sd/mmc ? |
| 19:15.26 | hrw | thesing: I know and will build ones |
| 19:16.03 | thesing | mrdata: AFAIR 500KB/s |
| 19:17.43 | mrdata | thesing: not bad, for kernel 2.4 on simpad (software-bitbang-spi) i had only 125KB/s |
| 19:18.02 | Laibsch | hrw: Will I need the kernel as well or just the .ko modules? |
| 19:18.17 | hrw | I did both |
| 19:18.17 | thesing | Laibsch: the modules will do. |
| 19:18.28 | Laibsch | OK |
| 19:19.09 | mrdata | thesing: if the rest of kernel works on simpad, i will return to my mmc/sd-card driver and port it to kernel 2.6 |
| 19:20.56 | thesing | mrdata: with the mmc_spi.patch and the spi-bitbang modules this should be easy. |
| 19:21.57 | mrdata | thesing: that sound's great ;-) |
| 19:22.53 | mrdata | thesing: you mean your mmc_spi-r4.patch and spi-bitbang from kernel? |
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| 19:24.32 | thesing | yes. |
| 19:25.10 | hrw | http://www.vidvoting.com/xoops/modules/xstreamer/index.php?class=video&id=52 - cocaine production in easy steps |
| 19:27.04 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: and if you still wand to take some after learning how to process it...nothing like gasoline and battery acid to make your day :) |
| 19:27.54 | thesing | mrdata: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0701.3/0737.html somewhere in this thread I got the mmc_spi.patch (Just in case I my version is broken on non collies) |
| 19:28.39 | mrdata | thesing: thanks, i will have a look on it |
| 19:28.40 | hrw | thesing: rs-mmc not recognized |
| 19:29.40 | Laibsch | hrw, thesing. First card is recognized by new driver |
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| 19:30.49 | Laibsch | second one, too |
| 19:31.26 | Laibsch | the 1G card is not. |
| 19:32.43 | polyonymous | good evening. |
| 19:33.20 | thesing | Laibsch: Did you try a few time eject an reinsert? sometimes this is needes. (especially if one forgets to unmount the cards.) |
| 19:33.24 | hrw | thesing: added rs-mmc logs to @2161 |
| 19:33.45 | Laibsch | thesing: I am doing that now |
| 19:33.49 | Laibsch | so far no luck |
| 19:35.14 | Laibsch | With the first two I got an error of "no valid FAT filesystem being present". The partition was automounted and shown with correct size by df -h, though Furthermore I would get an error of "mmc0: error requesting CID: 4" upon removal |
| 19:36.59 | Laibsch | thesing: No, this card just won't work. I will attach the logs |
| 19:37.51 | thesing | Laibsch: This is normal. |
| 19:38.23 | Laibsch | OK. |
| 19:40.29 | hrw | thesing: mmcblk0: mmc0:0000 SU128 123008KiB |
| 19:40.35 | hrw | thesing: microSD 128M |
| 19:41.34 | hrw | thesing: so only rs-mmc one does not work here. but I will check 16M mmc |
| 19:41.41 | hrw | which worked |
| 19:42.52 | hrw | recognized |
| 19:43.01 | Crofton | koen, we must get one of these omap2430 starter kits :) |
| 19:43.12 | hrw | thesing: mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 16M 15680KiB |
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| 19:45.33 | thesing | hrw: fine. so nearly all cards work now. I have an idea what your rsmmc might need. |
| 19:46.46 | hrw | great |
| 19:47.10 | koen | Crofton: that's no problem :) |
| 19:47.32 | koen | Crofton: Rishi will send both of us a OSK if we ping him :) |
| 19:47.35 | Crofton | the mistral website says delivery is 16 weeks |
| 19:47.45 | Crofton | I just pinged him on something else |
| 19:48.03 | Crofton | you see the link I pasted a while back, they list sdr as an app |
| 19:48.18 | koen | I think I saw the link |
| 19:48.40 | Crofton | I also have one of the lyretch expensive SDR boards |
| 19:49.14 | koen | is teh lyrtech OE-able? |
| 19:49.17 | hrw | thesing: md5sum not always match - first one is wrong, next ones are same (no mmc_debug) |
| 19:49.22 | Crofton | I hope so |
| 19:49.23 | koen | or too much binary crap in the wrong places? |
| 19:49.36 | Crofton | it comes with inegrity, must cure that problem |
| 19:50.03 | Crofton | I suspect some of the people involved will want Angstrom on it |
| 19:50.21 | Crofton | there may be some hairy driver work to speak to the FPGA |
| 19:50.32 | vervain | Can I load Angstrom on a 'Compaq OHH BootLoader'? |
| 19:51.10 | thesing | hrw: the fs-layer seems to write sometimes to the card. Maybe that's the reason. |
| 19:51.24 | hrw | maybe |
| 19:51.56 | vervain | On a H5550 |
| 19:51.57 | hrw | vervain: if you can put other linux on it then angstrom too |
| 19:53.03 | vervain | Oh ok... I have familiar 8.4 from a while back and was willing to give Angsrom a whirl if it's the new sheriff... But don't see any H5xxx docs in the Angstrom Wiki. |
| 19:53.18 | hrw | vervain: installation procedure is same |
| 19:53.21 | hrw | iirc |
| 19:53.59 | koen | it is |
| 19:54.21 | koen | but with the caveat that 2.6 isn't finished yet on the h5xxx, psokolovsky should know the status of that |
| 19:55.36 | hrw | koen: do you have working oabi builddir? |
| 19:55.54 | koen | hrw: no, but I plan to have one tomorrow :) |
| 19:56.10 | hrw | koen: then please do build for collie |
| 19:57.27 | Crofton | frigging ti |
| 19:57.36 | Crofton | http://focus.ti.com/dsp/docs/dspsupporttechdocsc.tsp?sectionId=3&tabId=409&familyId=1302&abstractName=sprue20a |
| 19:57.42 | Crofton | the pdf has the text backwards |
| 19:57.58 | koen | heh |
| 19:58.30 | Crofton | I suppose I need to find acrocrap for Linux |
| 19:58.41 | Crofton | spreading rumours again? |
| 19:58.59 | koen | if rumours is "rishi said it", yes :) |
| 19:59.04 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:59.29 | Crofton | off to a meeting |
| 20:03.13 | XorA|gone | Crofton: because uk ones suck, although I prefer Japanese |
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| 20:03.35 | timtimred | i think all tv sucks equally |
| 20:04.14 | Crofton | the grass is always greener on the other side of the Atlantic:) |
| 20:04.41 | hrw | http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/05/04/sdmmc-for-collie26-progress/ |
| 20:04.59 | XorA|gone | Crofton: main thing is you guys have such a vast output, a few of them are actually good |
| 20:05.09 | XorA|gone | Crofton: wherease we make a couple and so they tend to suck ass |
| 20:05.13 | hrw | real 2m 47.07s |
| 20:05.13 | hrw | user 0m 21.55s |
| 20:05.13 | hrw | sys 0m 3.90s |
| 20:05.38 | hrw | this is time of md5sum /dev/mmcblk0 on collie without mmc debug - 128M microsd card from Neo1973 |
| 20:06.38 | XorA|gone | hrw: that newet patch in OE? |
| 20:07.18 | hrw | it is |
| 20:07.29 | hrw | for over a week |
| 20:07.39 | XorA|gone | I must have missed the commit notice |
| 20:08.02 | Crofton | hmm |
| 20:08.08 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.10 | Crofton | I think we are getting over recent events |
| 20:08.32 | Crofton | I am in a meeting where someone is suggesting we attempt to obtain guilt funding |
| 20:10.04 | koen | XorA|gone: http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/die-libgnome-die-2007-05-04-16-20 |
| 20:10.09 | thesing | Laibsch: you didn't use the current locomo-spi module. could you get it from http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tkunze/zaurus/images/locomo_spi.ko and resubmit your verbose log? |
| 20:10.32 | XorA|gone | ah scooby snax are ready back later |
| 20:10.52 | hrw | koen: it is in Poky ready to take |
| 20:11.20 | XorA|gone | koen: cool |
| 20:11.22 | thesing | Laibsch: I need to get everything what happends from the moment on where you put the card in. |
| 20:11.56 | hrw | thesing: hm. without mmc debug it does not like 512M card which it liked before |
| 20:12.09 | hrw | mmc_spi .0: CMD55 response SPI_R1: INVALID RESPONSE, 82 |
| 20:12.09 | hrw | mmc_spi .0: CMD55 response SPI_R1: INVALID RESPONSE, 80 |
| 20:12.09 | hrw | mmc_spi .0: CMD1 response SPI_R1: INVALID RESPONSE, 80 |
| 20:12.11 | koen | sounds like timing issues |
| 20:12.16 | hrw | yep |
| 20:12.27 | Crofton | the aim for the proposal is to go on a pub crawl in Ireland |
| 20:13.43 | likewise | Crofton: you need moral support there? |
| 20:13.54 | Crofton | heh |
| 20:13.58 | likewise | :-) |
| 20:14.04 | Crofton | first we need funding |
| 20:14.25 | Crofton | acroread is spitting out syntax errors on TI pdf file .... |
| 20:14.45 | likewise | As you said "the grass is always greener on the other side of the Atlantic:)" |
| 20:14.46 | Crofton | hmm, all pdf |
| 20:17.01 | hrw | thesing: without debug recognized are: 16M mmc, 128M microSD. fails: 512M and 1GB (invalid response to CMD55/58/1), no reaction at all to rs-mmc one |
| 20:17.40 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: did not get mail from you |
| 20:19.32 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: I sent a message from paypal, since I am not sure how the user-id works exactly... |
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| 20:20.42 | hrw | so let me login into paypal |
| 20:23.31 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: the email I use on paypal is henry.von.tresckow@orhtodyne.com |
| 20:24.03 | hrw | ok |
| 20:26.38 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: sent |
| 20:27.18 | Laibsch | thesing: http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1424 |
| 20:27.28 | Laibsch | and http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1423 |
| 20:28.17 | Laibsch | thesing: I did not use your module but the one that hrw provided earlier |
| 20:29.06 | thesing | Laibsch: that shouldn't matter. |
| 20:29.10 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: got mail? |
| 20:30.50 | thesing | Laibsch: the verbose log seems to be truncated. Did you comment the ROTATE* lines in /etc/syslog.conf? |
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| 20:31.48 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: not yet... |
| 20:32.05 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: its paypal so it can take week |
| 20:32.36 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: np. I'll let you guys know as soon as the cables arrive at my house |
| 20:33.14 | Laibsch | thesing: I had them on but later joined two files with "cat syslog syslog.0 > syslog-long" |
| 20:33.41 | hvontres|poodle | hrw, koen: do you guys know at what stage during image creation modules.symbols etc are built? I just tried re-building angstrom-console-image and got nothing |
| 20:34.34 | thesing | Laibsch: But they only preserve 64 KB. And the log gets much bigger. |
| 20:35.32 | Laibsch | OK, I will remove the rotation |
| 20:35.49 | hrw | Laibsch: set log to atleast 1-2M in size |
| 20:36.11 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: do_compile of kernel? |
| 20:42.24 | koen | likewise: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/cairo/2007-May/010540.html |
| 20:42.54 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: not sure...but that file is nowhere to be found in tmp....:( |
| 20:43.53 | koen | hrw: NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.2-r3: task do_compile: started (collie) |
| 20:44.30 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: so looks like it is not created at all (not found in my builds) |
| 20:45.10 | Laibsch | thesing: http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=1426 |
| 20:46.05 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: yet it shows up in the rootfs tarball for angstrom....root@poodle:/media/cf/angstrom# tar -tzf Angstrom-console-image-test-20070422-poodle.rootfs.tar.gz |grep modules.symbols |
| 20:46.08 | hvontres|poodle | ./lib/modules/2.6.20.6/modules.symbols |
| 20:47.21 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: depmod started during creating of images? |
| 20:48.02 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: you guys would know better than me... |
| 20:49.48 | likewise | koen: yes, saw that thread, but I'm not sure if it matters much for non-X. |
| 20:50.42 | likewise | koen: I am not sure if we should back port the gcc-cross patch back into 4.1.1, 4.1.0 etc. Maybe we should check with ptxdist. |
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| 20:51.21 | likewise | koen: although angstrom and slug might be the only two active users of arm5teb eabi, which can use 4.1.2 |
| 20:59.07 | thesing | Laibsch: I think I can fix your card too. But not today ;) |
| 20:59.53 | thesing | I'll go now. CU all. |
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| 21:09.39 | Laibsch | hrw: With the advent of ?=, is the use of auto.conf still advantageous? I'd like to move it to local.conf and rm auto.conf. I share site.conf as a hard link between the distros that I compile for. |
| 21:10.18 | zecke | Laibsch: for you? I don't know, for me yes :) |
| 21:11.00 | Laibsch | what is the advantage? |
| 21:11.02 | zecke | for my autobuilder I can echo "" > without deleting anything |
| 21:11.04 | Laibsch | Can I remove auto.conf or will that trigger some kind of error or problems? |
| 21:11.23 | zecke | Laibsch: you can remove it (likely) |
| 21:11.29 | Laibsch | zecke: It would be easier to just "MACHINE=foo bitbake bar" |
| 21:11.30 | Laibsch | ;-) |
| 21:12.02 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: it looks like the problem is happening in do_rootfs... |
| 21:12.23 | Laibsch | zecke: I have "MACHINE ?= collie" in auto.conf so I can easily override that. |
| 21:12.40 | zecke | likely :) |
| 21:12.56 | hrw | Laibsch: for machine in akita spitz hx4700 h2200 hx2700 ixp4xxle;do echo "MACHINE=\"$machine\"" >conf/auto.conf;bitbake angstrom-console-image;done |
| 21:12.56 | hrw | this is advantage |
| 21:12.56 | hrw | very simple way of spending cpu time with building for multiple machines without interactivity |
| 21:12.56 | hrw | with one line you can build angstrom for all supported machines |
| 21:13.21 | hrw | cu |
| 21:13.52 | hrw | my laptop will build angstrom-oabi during weekend (I hope) |
| 21:18.14 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: Yes, I understand that was the initial reason (I think ?= was not yet there back then) |
| 21:18.20 | Laibsch | You could do the same today like this |
| 21:18.49 | Laibsch | for machine in akita spitz hx4700 h2200 hx2700 ixp4xxle;do MACHINE=$machine bitbake angstrom-console-image;done |
| 21:20.17 | Laibsch | Crazy! 2G SD card for 10€ |
| 21:20.21 | Laibsch | http://www.mediaonline.de/shop/ProductDisplay?storeId=5000&jspStoreDir=mediamarkt&productId=305049&partnerId=psm&catalogId=5000&langId=-3&ddkey=MMShopByPartner |
| 21:20.35 | Laibsch | It looks like I might need more. |
| 21:20.57 | Laibsch | the wikipedia recompressed to 1,7G and I want at least .de and .jp |
| 21:23.19 | zecke | Laibsch: wow, how do you compress? |
| 21:23.53 | Laibsch | Are you impressed by how little or how much that is? |
| 21:27.13 | zecke | yes |
| 21:27.24 | zecke | 1.7 of mostly text is much |
| 21:27.43 | Laibsch | I was about to write a mail to the user list of angstrom. I found the numbers very disappointing. The original .7z file was 760MB. squashfs recompressed that to 2.0G. squashfs-lzma which AFAIK uses the same algo as 7-zip came out at 1.7G. Uncompressed size is 13G. I wonder how for example the collie would keep up with this amount of data :-D |
| 21:27.44 | polyonymous | wikipedia is a lot of mostly text. |
| 21:28.10 | Laibsch | but 1.7G vs 700M is disappointing |
| 21:28.49 | polyonymous | Laibsch, how well does resulting fs compress with, say, gzip? |
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| 21:32.20 | Laibsch | polyonymous: I can test later |
| 21:32.30 | polyonymous | Laibsch, just wondering how dense it is. |
| 21:32.37 | zecke | Laibsch: where to get the original file from? |
| 21:33.27 | Laibsch | static.wikipedia.org |
| 21:33.41 | Laibsch | I will dig up the url that I used, just a minute |
| 21:34.28 | zecke | thank you |
| 21:34.43 | zecke | Laibsch: you could try to convert the html to plucker format |
| 21:35.05 | Laibsch | zecke: Did you follow the original discussion with Ifaistos, koen, et al.? |
| 21:36.14 | Laibsch | http://static.wikipedia.org/wikipedia/ja/%E8%AA%BF/%E3%81%B9/%E3%82%82/Wikipedia%7E%E8%AA%BF%E3%81%B9%E3%82%82%E3%81%AE%E6%A1%88%E5%86%85.html |
| 21:36.26 | Laibsch | wrong one |
| 21:36.37 | zecke | no :) |
| 21:36.39 | Laibsch | that is a sample article |
| 21:37.12 | Laibsch | seems this was in angstrom |
| 21:37.25 | zecke | interesting article :) |
| 21:37.34 | zecke | Laibsch: well, don't do it now. I will go to bed :) |
| 21:38.07 | Laibsch | http://static.wikipedia.org/downloads/November_2006/ja/ is it |
| 21:38.26 | Laibsch | zecke: yes, that is the one |
| 21:39.04 | Laibsch | ~logs |
| 21:39.07 | ibot | logs is, like, apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
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| 21:40.34 | Laibsch | zecke: Too bad, it seems there are no logs for the angstrom channel. |
| 21:40.44 | Laibsch | But if you are interested I can send you a copy |
| 21:40.53 | Laibsch | tomorrow ;-) |
| 21:41.27 | zecke | let us see. I plan to take a deep look into textbooks :) |
| 21:41.49 | polyonymous | why, Laibsch, I do have ~/.xchat/xchatlogs :) |
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| 21:43.19 | Laibsch | zecke: Good for you. Take the studies serious (although they will certainly suck at times) |
| 21:43.23 | Laibsch | polyonymous: ? |
| 21:43.33 | Laibsch | I have mine readily available too |
| 21:43.35 | polyonymous | Laibsch, the log for angstrom channel is there :) |
| 21:43.38 | Laibsch | But zecke was leaving |
| 21:43.57 | Laibsch | I keep personal logs, too |
| 21:44.01 | zecke | Laibsch: I still have the possibility to finish in time... even if it is a bit unlikely |
| 21:44.12 | polyonymous | ahh, you wanted a link to log. I thought you wanted to find link IN the log. |
| 21:44.17 | Laibsch | zecke: Well, in time is faster than most |
| 21:44.30 | Laibsch | polyonymous: The link is up above ;-) |
| 21:44.30 | zecke | :} |
| 21:44.38 | polyonymous | Laibsch, nevermind :) |
| 21:44.50 | Laibsch | polyonymous: Thanks for the implicit offer :-) |
| 21:45.24 | polyonymous | Yes, I even typed the offer of sending 1.8M uncompressed over dcc, but erased, thinking that you have it, anyway :) |
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| 21:56.28 | XorA|gone | lrg_: better get a new passport quick :-D |
| 21:58.02 | lrg_ | XorA|gone: i know, very worrying :/ |
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| 21:59.56 | lrg_ | XorA|gone: enjoy the talk and beer ? |
| 22:00.35 | XorA|gone | talk was pish, apparently meritocracy is now called eXceed |
| 22:00.36 | lrg_ | buzzwords |
| 22:00.36 | XorA|gone | I guess Tom Laird is a Vista eXceed user |
| 22:00.37 | XorA|gone | humming bird eXceed I mean |
| 22:01.04 | lrg_ | we had best eXceed (tm) then |
| 22:01.12 | XorA|gone | lrg_: yup :-D |
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| 23:29.06 | jts | my laptop died in the middle of a 'bitbake nano', is there a way to resume from where I left off? |
| 23:29.23 | zecke_ | bitbake nano |
| 23:29.33 | jts | zecke_: ok, thanks |
| 23:29.45 | jts | I'm used to gentoo's 'emerge --resume' so I wasn't sure |
| 23:29.47 | Laibsch | ;-) |
| 23:29.54 | zecke_ | most operations should be interruptible |
| 23:30.00 | zecke_ | Laibsch: I'm in bed :) |
| 23:30.16 | jts | thanks, I'll be back in a bit |
| 23:30.22 | jts | except as summatusmentis |
| 23:30.27 | Laibsch | That is where I am heading now, too |
| 23:30.33 | Laibsch | good night y'all |
| 23:31.13 | polyonymous | night |
| 23:32.45 | XorA|gone | sleep time, cyas |
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