| 00:03.09 | hidoufr | NAbyss for example , looking at http://www.openembedded.org/contact , you see that one of the channel is #openzaurus |
| 00:03.35 | hidoufr | and people from openzaurus got a forum section in oesf forum . |
| 00:05.20 | hidoufr | the problem that I have might impact a lot of people that eventually would like to join those forums ( and contribute the discussion in oesf from openzaurus , pdaxrom ... etc ... and on ) |
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| 00:21.11 | hidoufr | Oki ... :( .... well keep continuing doing a good job with your dev. work. Just know that users number in the forums OESF / sections Openzaurus / Opie ... etc ... won't increase anymore until the issue is fixed. And for what I see , it has been like that for a while (2006) , and if nobody is taking this issue seriously , in a PROACTIVE way, it will continij |
| 00:21.21 | hidoufr | continue being the same |
| 00:21.28 | hidoufr | regards |
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| 00:34.14 | mreimer_ | anyone know why building python packages results in packages with no files? e.g. python-pygtk2 |
| 00:34.20 | mreimer_ | using angstrom |
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| 02:53.52 | CIA-11 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r647c56ef... 10/ (19 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 02:53.52 | CIA-11 | perl: Add 5.8.8 and use DEFAULT_PREFERENCE to disable it until more |
| 02:53.52 | CIA-11 | testing is done. |
| 02:53.52 | CIA-11 | Main differences from the 5.8.7 recipe are: |
| 02:53.52 | CIA-11 | * Always use gcc to link. Same arch's require this, while others can |
| 02:53.52 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.54 | CIA-11 | * Fix threading issues by enabling threading in both perl-native and |
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| 03:16.09 | CIA-11 | perl: Move the list of rprovides for backward compatiblity into a seperate |
| 03:16.09 | CIA-11 | .inc file and include it in the two recipes that need the list. |
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| 08:58.34 | cedricb | ~seen RP |
| 08:59.06 | ibot | rp is currently on #oe (21h 40m 40s) #openmoko (21h 40m 40s) #openzaurus (21h 40m 40s) #handhelds.org (21h 40m 40s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 19h 2m 9s, last said: 'lrg: I'm going to have to at some point. Not enough space here :/'. |
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| 10:15.16 | mrdata | hi all, any hint where i can download bitbake-1.8.0.tar.gz other than from http://prdownload.berlios.de/bitbake/bitbake-1.8.0.tar.gz |
| 10:15.47 | mrdata | also svn.berlios.de are not responding |
| 10:16.24 | putumutukas | can someone tell me how can i make kernel-image.ipk to a image i can load into flash ? |
| 10:16.51 | putumutukas | for omap 5912 |
| 10:17.31 | putumutukas | or can i build a flashable image ? |
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| 11:32.46 | mrdata | question: while building glibc-2.5-r5 some instructions have // in there line |
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| 11:33.50 | mrdata | for example in ru.do_compile -> in function autotools_stage_includes() |
| 11:34.13 | mrdata | cp -pPR /stuff/build/tmp/work/arm-oabi-angstrom-linux/glibc-2.5-r5/temp-staging//usr/include/* /stuff/build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux/include |
| 11:34.54 | mrdata | is this /temp-staging//usr/include/ realy okay ??? |
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| 11:51.38 | psokolovsky | mrdata: it is. for details, read POSIX (or SUSV2) spec - any number of '/' in the middle of path is equiavalent to single one. |
| 11:57.52 | mrdata | psokolovsky: okay, and thanks for that info |
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| 13:07.55 | Laibsch | !oebug 909 |
| 13:07.56 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 909, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-04-26 10:25 |
| 13:07.57 | cdbot2 | * * antti.andreimann(AT)mail.ee: Add glibc 2.3.6 |
| 13:07.58 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=909 |
| 13:08.13 | Laibsch | Is that one still relevant? We have glibc 2.4 and 2.5 in now. |
| 13:15.18 | koen | dunno |
| 13:15.27 | koen | some people have a fetish for old software |
| 13:15.33 | koen | like kernel 2.4 and gcc 2.95.3 |
| 13:26.17 | Laibsch | I closed it |
| 13:36.05 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:32.56 | goxboxlive | koen: are you here? |
| 15:40.15 | Kristoffer | Any spitz (zaurus sl-c3200) gurus here?..got a kernel question |
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| 15:44.20 | Kristoffer | hrw|gone wake? |
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| 15:57.41 | Kristoffer | RP, you there man? Trying to compile 2.6.20.8 vanilla on my zaurus :D |
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| 16:30.37 | Kristoffer | Anyone got a working 2.6.20 spitz kernel? |
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| 17:17.04 | Kristoffer | RP there? |
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| 17:49.11 | hrw | morning |
| 17:49.23 | sirfred | Morning hrw |
| 17:49.57 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 17:51.48 | hrw | ~seen ph5 |
| 17:51.59 | ibot | ph5 <n=ph5@e178220192.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 3h 14m 17s ago, saying: 'hrw: yes, currently it's only libavahi-ui that introduces the gtk+ dependency, and it is not used by anything else yet.'. |
| 17:56.41 | hrw | joke: |
| 17:56.52 | hrw | While redecorating a church, three nuns become extremely hot and sweaty in their habits, so Mother Superior says, "Let's take our clothes off, and work naked." The other two nuns disapprove, and ask, "What if someone sees us?" But the Mother Superior says, "Don't worry, no one will see us, we'll just lock the door." So the other nuns agree, strip down and return to work. |
| 17:57.03 | hrw | Suddenly, they hear a knock at the door, and grab their clothes in a panic. Mother Superior runs to the door and calls through, "Who is it?" "Blind man," a man's voice comes back. So she opens the door, and lets in the blind man, who turns to the nuns and says, "Great tits, ladies, now where do you want these blinds?" |
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| 18:30.37 | Kristoffer|afk | hrw you got a spitz? |
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| 18:38.47 | likewise | what is a known-working uclibc distro? |
| 18:39.18 | NAiL | in oe? none atm afaik |
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| 18:41.53 | mrdata | woglinde: hi |
| 18:42.04 | woglinde | hi mrdata |
| 18:42.50 | mrdata | woglinde: can you help me to get bitbake >1.8.0; berlios is down for now |
| 18:43.00 | woglinde | oh |
| 18:43.02 | mrdata | woglinde: or =1.8.0 |
| 18:43.09 | woglinde | yes i can tar it |
| 18:43.11 | woglinde | mom |
| 18:44.17 | CoreDump|home | is jabber offline for anyone else here? |
| 18:44.50 | hrw | Kristoffer: I had OE one - now laibsch have it |
| 18:44.55 | hrw | CoreDump|home: jabber.org? |
| 18:45.02 | hrw | CoreDump|home: off for me |
| 18:45.08 | CoreDump|home | hrw: thanks |
| 18:45.22 | hrw | Kristoffer: how kernel fails for you? |
| 18:46.42 | Kristoffer | hrw I built a kernel (2.6.20.8) from within my spitz with defconfig for spitz. Moved it into my SD card with updater.sh, it got written properly, but after that Im unable to boot my spitz. I can get into the menu to try and write again, but nothing happens |
| 18:47.17 | Kristoffer | hrw Cant get into the "rescue" mode either (B + D) .. |
| 18:48.23 | Kristoffer | hrw Im almost ready to do a factory reset on it. But would rather not, since I got a working armedslack (slackware for arm) on it. |
| 18:48.45 | hrw | Kristoffer: you have original cf card in spitz? |
| 18:49.13 | Kristoffer | hrw how you mean original cf card..? Its just a 2GB sandisk card. |
| 18:49.30 | hrw | Kristoffer: microdrive one |
| 18:49.47 | Kristoffer | hrw spitz = sl-c3200 ? |
| 18:50.05 | Kristoffer | Its got 6GB microdrive builtin |
| 18:50.30 | hrw | Kristoffer: I know. you did not replaced it with other? (want to be sure) |
| 18:50.55 | Kristoffer | nopie, havent replaced any hardware parts |
| 18:51.21 | Kristoffer | Ive done upgrades in the past, but never with a "own" built kernel. |
| 18:52.23 | Kristoffer | Been trying to get a OZ 2.6.16 on it, but after pressing the Y button in the menu, nothing happens. |
| 18:52.23 | hrw | strange |
| 18:52.24 | hrw | w8 - 2GB sandisk? |
| 18:52.24 | Kristoffer | yeah |
| 18:52.24 | hrw | did you flashed Zaurus with it before? |
| 18:52.36 | Kristoffer | nopie, not that. Used a 1GB SD before |
| 18:53.09 | hrw | then try with 1GB |
| 18:53.19 | Kristoffer | Oki, I'll give that a try one sec |
| 18:53.24 | hrw | I am not sure does rescue rootfs supports cards larger then 1GB |
| 18:55.22 | Kristoffer | hrw tried to flash on a new kernel with SD 1GB card, but same result. I press <OK> + Power on switch, gets me to menu, select item 4 + SD + YES and then just black screen. Usually it starts and shows the updater.sh script installing the new kernel. |
| 18:55.38 | Kristoffer | hrw any known issues when doing this from a windows machine (writing CF/SD cards I mean)? |
| 18:56.21 | hrw | first time heard about such behaviour |
| 18:58.10 | Kristoffer | hrw same for me, feels really weird. And not sure what the best approach would be. Factory reset isnt pretty |
| 19:00.15 | hrw | Offtopic: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7352118104883452737 |
| 19:00.38 | hrw | Kristoffer: boot into rescue and check does it recognize card and can list content/read files from it |
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| 19:13.01 | Kristoffer | hrw having a hard time getting into rescue mode... :( |
| 19:16.45 | hrw | Kristoffer: reboot with D B keys hold |
| 19:16.49 | hrw | or D M |
| 19:19.10 | Kristoffer | The screen just flashes, then nothing. Same with DB |
| 19:19.23 | Kristoffer | Only able to access the "flash" menu |
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| 19:20.06 | Kristoffer | eh wait |
| 19:20.11 | Kristoffer | just got into SERVICE menu |
| 19:21.48 | hrw | my husky discharged |
| 19:22.39 | mrdata | woglinde: any problems with tar bitbake ? |
| 19:22.54 | woglinde | mrdata? |
| 19:22.58 | woglinde | look at your query |
| 19:23.10 | woglinde | http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~Heinold/bitbake-1.8.tar.bz2 |
| 19:23.30 | mrdata | woglinde: sorry i have not get a query |
| 19:23.38 | woglinde | ah right |
| 19:23.40 | woglinde | my fault |
| 19:23.41 | mrdata | woglinde: and thanks |
| 19:23.47 | woglinde | didnt call nockserv |
| 19:23.54 | woglinde | nickserv |
| 19:24.08 | Kristoffer | hrw got into Service menu, no idea what good that will do |
| 19:24.19 | mrdata | woglinde: no problem, i try to get this file since morning |
| 19:28.36 | hrw | shit.. I forgot how to enter rescue ;( |
| 19:30.20 | Kristoffer | hrw Seems to recall there was some miss, the last time I tried it. Btw, no when I try to flash a new kernel It gives me some error in Japanese :D Currently I got zImage.bin, updater.sh and gnu-tar on the CF card |
| 19:30.42 | Kristoffer | Thinking about doing a factory reset on it |
| 19:32.39 | hrw | moment.. |
| 19:32.44 | hrw | Kristoffer: you have AC connected? |
| 19:32.46 | Kristoffer | hrw oki |
| 19:32.58 | likewise | What's the way to have FILESPATH include the architecture as a directory to search for file:// SRC_URI's? |
| 19:33.01 | Kristoffer | not currently, ah... doh. That explains the new error |
| 19:33.10 | hrw | Kristoffer: flashing REQ ac connected |
| 19:33.22 | hrw | likewise: it add it automatically |
| 19:33.30 | hrw | likewise: its OVERRIDES stuff |
| 19:33.53 | Kristoffer | hrw Yeah, got rid of the error. But still same result, replaced all files on SD card but it still only gives me a blank screen. |
| 19:34.03 | likewise | hrw: hmm, uclibc-0.9.28 does not seem to do that for me. Biilding nano for MACHINE="x86" DISTRO="generic-uclibc" |
| 19:35.07 | hrw | likewise: bitbake -e -b recipe|grep FILESPATH |
| 19:38.23 | likewise | hrw: I already tried that but without -b <recipe> and <bitbake target> instead. Stupid of me. Thanks for the tip. |
| 19:38.50 | hrw | likewise: bitbake need -b for -e - otherwise it does not know which recipe you want |
| 19:40.19 | likewise | hrw: yes, but it does not fail if I use -e alone. |
| 19:41.09 | hrw | I know |
| 19:41.19 | Kristoffer | arghh factory reset doesnt seem to work either... I go through the menu and once I click YES, the power led blinks and then it goes black |
| 19:42.59 | hrw | Kristoffer: I do not think that factory reset has sense with !sharprom |
| 19:44.10 | Kristoffer | hrw how you mean? |
| 19:44.36 | likewise | hrw: x86 machine is using i486. uclibc only contains i386 and i686 directories. |
| 19:45.36 | hrw | likewise: so you need to copy one of them as i486? |
| 19:45.54 | likewise | hrw: yes, exactly, will do and see where this ends |
| 19:46.11 | hrw | Kristoffer: I mean that 'factory reset' option was rather done for original sharp system and do not work (have sense) for other distros |
| 19:46.31 | Kristoffer | hrw Im just trying to reset to anything working |
| 19:46.38 | likewise | hrw: I think the OE distro needs a set of *always-buildable* machine/distro combo's to find regressions such as this. |
| 19:47.23 | hrw | likewise: uclibc is nearly no-man world in OE probably |
| 19:49.06 | likewise | hrw: I do not see why. E for Embedded. uClibc is typically targetting embedded devices. Probably because all the GUI-full devices need the nifty localization of glibc? |
| 19:49.22 | likewise | hrw: For headless embedded devices, I have never really seen the need for glibc. |
| 19:52.40 | hrw | likewise: I see your point. |
| 19:52.58 | likewise | hrw: CELF not interested in uclibc also? |
| 19:53.01 | hrw | likewise: nslu2 people had uclibc based distro some time ago |
| 19:53.11 | hrw | likewise: they use glibc systems |
| 19:53.33 | likewise | hrw: yup, we use it for our firmware update image (which itself is a minimal linux system with uclibc) |
| 19:53.44 | hrw | many OE people wait for 0.9.29 uclibc release |
| 19:54.03 | likewise | hrw: 0.9.29_rc1 is out, so I'm trying to see if I can get it to work. |
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| 19:54.11 | hrw | hi koen |
| 19:54.12 | likewise | koen: hi! |
| 19:54.18 | hrw | koen: Chicago? |
| 19:54.37 | likewise | hrw: just lack the OE specific knowledge on the toolchain creation process, but digging through it. |
| 19:54.57 | koen | yes, chicago |
| 19:54.59 | koen | good morning all |
| 19:55.11 | woglinde | he koen |
| 19:55.15 | koen | toolchains are black voodoo magic |
| 19:55.18 | likewise | koen: good morning. hours to kill? |
| 19:55.26 | hrw | koen: uclibc 0.9.29-rc1 exists - interested? |
| 19:55.28 | koen | likewise: thanks for gatewaying yesterday |
| 19:55.34 | koen | hrw: oooooooh! |
| 19:55.40 | likewise | koen: did it work out? |
| 19:55.45 | hrw | koen: then help likewise with it ;) |
| 19:55.48 | koen | likewise: yes! |
| 19:56.49 | likewise | koen: good to beer^W hear. |
| 19:57.32 | koen | 21:57 in .nl now? |
| 19:57.38 | likewise | koen: ack. wish you a nice second hop back here. |
| 19:57.49 | hrw | koen: in .pl yes |
| 19:57.56 | likewise | or "leg" that is. |
| 19:58.18 | koen | thanks |
| 19:59.07 | likewise | good leg followed by minimal jetlag... |
| 19:59.32 | koen | yeah |
| 19:59.54 | koen | I slept on the plane, and hope to do again with the next flight |
| 20:00.28 | hrw | http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ |
| 20:02.17 | koen | I refuse to add the gtkrc hack their svn has |
| 20:03.45 | koen | likewise: angstrom should work with uclibc (at least it built uclibc_svn a few months ago) |
| 20:04.28 | likewise | koen: ok, that might be a better starting point than generic-uclibc. |
| 20:05.17 | koen | indeed |
| 20:05.50 | hrw | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `arrayobj.lo', needed by `libmain.la'. Stop. |
| 20:05.58 | hrw | ~lart xorg-xserver 1.3.0.0 |
| 20:05.59 | ibot | drops a humongous exploding nuke on xorg-xserver 1.3.0.0 |
| 20:09.44 | hrw | ok. time to check new Debian xserver |
| 20:09.46 | hrw | bbiab |
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| 20:12.05 | concept10 | anyone know a reference page for kdrive/tiny x? I cant find updated info anywhere. |
| 20:13.36 | koen | concept10: x.org |
| 20:14.48 | koen | likewise: do you have a .bb for the uclibc rc1? |
| 20:15.16 | koen | ah, drat |
| 20:15.31 | likewise | koen: My first step was to build 0.9.28 to see where standing problems are |
| 20:15.44 | koen | I forgot OE uclibc needs a zillion + 1 machine/distro/image config file |
| 20:15.51 | koen | likewise: .28 is horribly broken |
| 20:15.54 | likewise | as uclibc seems to have bitrot (mostly due to changes elsewehere) |
| 20:16.00 | koen | don't waste time on that |
| 20:16.25 | koen | uclibc_svn worked a while ago |
| 20:16.30 | likewise | koen: ok |
| 20:17.23 | woglinde | likewise no a 0.29 release is in sight |
| 20:17.47 | likewise | woglinde: that's why I am bothering everyone and myself :-) |
| 20:18.21 | woglinde | likewise okay *g* |
| 20:18.23 | likewise | woglinde: They kept off the NPTL patches though. |
| 20:18.38 | Kristoffer | RP You there now? |
| 20:18.56 | likewise | woglinde: 0.9.29 rc and 0.9.29.0 will probably without NPTL, .1 will probably be (longer term) |
| 20:21.05 | likewise | koen: hotdog any good? |
| 20:21.25 | koen | likewise: yes |
| 20:22.04 | koen | even the starbucks is ok here |
| 20:22.16 | koen | you can order "a large coffee" and they will give you one |
| 20:22.52 | likewise | koen: which is a new concept for us .eu's |
| 20:23.03 | NAiL | likewise: 0.9.29 is (afaik) the last uclibc without nptl. There's a separate branch that has nptl support, that will get merged in after 0.9.29 is released. |
| 20:24.05 | likewise | my g/f convinced me to see Spygame on .nl tv, so I'll catch up and bbl. |
| 20:24.17 | koen | people really seemed to like LLVM at ELC2007 |
| 20:24.29 | koen | probably because I mentioned that they could dump gcc |
| 20:24.38 | likewise | Koen: saw the Thomas Gleixner keynote? |
| 20:24.43 | koen | yes |
| 20:24.56 | koen | CELF invited tglx to do the keynote all over asia |
| 20:25.02 | koen | s/the/that/ |
| 20:25.19 | woglinde | koen but llvm depens on gcc? |
| 20:25.21 | likewise | koen: did he drive his point about embedded linux efforts should not be fragmented as they are now? |
| 20:25.36 | koen | likewise: it was a kernel talk |
| 20:25.40 | koen | woglinde: it doesn't |
| 20:25.56 | woglinde | koen hm than I read it wrong |
| 20:26.29 | koen | woglinde: they imported a gcc4 snapshot into their llvm-gcc4 svn |
| 20:27.05 | koen | if anyone is in the bay area next week -> LLVM developer summit |
| 20:33.10 | hrw | re |
| 20:33.47 | woglinde | re hrw |
| 20:34.41 | hrw | ati 6.6.191 does not work here :( |
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| 20:37.24 | Kristoffer|afk | hrw sorry to pester you. Really could use some help though. The only things I have access to is the Service menu and the <OK> + POWER flash menu |
| 20:37.30 | Kristoffer|afk | It wont work to flash anything though |
| 20:37.37 | Kristoffer|afk | So Im left with Service menu |
| 20:38.11 | hrw | no idea sorry |
| 20:42.48 | sirfred | ERROR: Can not check RPATH scanelf not found |
| 20:43.02 | hrw | bitbake pax-utils-native;pester zecke |
| 20:43.10 | sirfred | hrw: Thanks :) |
| 20:43.33 | koen | hrw: are your gcc4 patches for linux-n800 online somewhere? |
| 20:43.51 | hrw | koen: I forgot about it - moment |
| 20:44.25 | hrw | koen: it was patch for 770 not n800 |
| 20:45.15 | hrw | koen: RP tried Poky already |
| 20:45.24 | koen | I know |
| 20:45.47 | koen | mallum got quite excited when I mentioned it, so I know about that :) |
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| 20:46.40 | hrw | n930? |
| 20:47.54 | philippe | hrw: should be n830 no? 770 + 30 = 800 |
| 20:48.02 | hrw | ah - yes.. |
| 20:48.32 | hrw | I wonder will it have keyboard or not |
| 20:48.36 | philippe | unless they prefer to double the added number and go to 860 |
| 20:48.50 | hrw | philippe: Nokia c860 |
| 20:48.52 | hrw | :D |
| 20:49.04 | koen | they could go the sharp route |
| 20:49.20 | koen | produce a white n800 and ditch support for the grey/black one |
| 20:49.38 | hrw | philippe: black magic |
| 20:50.12 | philippe | hrw: I guess I will have to be friendlier to the integration team then. Before they change me into a toad or something |
| 20:50.26 | hrw | Kristoffer|afk: battery OUT, ac OUT. wait few seconds |
| 20:50.47 | hrw | Kristoffer|afk: hold D B keys, insert battery, lock battery, press power |
| 20:51.00 | hrw | Kristoffer|afk: wait for white sharp logo, release D B keys |
| 20:51.21 | koen | the labquest is awesome |
| 20:51.31 | koen | can't wait till august |
| 20:51.37 | koen | hrw: attending guadec? |
| 20:51.38 | hrw | koen: I wonder when they will send code into mainline |
| 20:51.49 | hrw | koen: not planned to |
| 20:53.02 | koen | mallum and I thought it would be funny to bring you there |
| 20:53.11 | sirfred | I was thinking that openmoko UI could be aproppiate for a zaurus also. What do you think? |
| 20:53.23 | koen | sirfred: if you have 128MB ram |
| 20:53.44 | sirfred | koen: Why is that much ram needed? |
| 20:53.53 | koen | bad code? |
| 20:53.59 | hrw | koen: if OH will pay - who knows |
| 20:54.21 | hrw | koen: my contract does not cover conferences |
| 20:54.30 | sirfred | koen: What components, exactly? |
| 20:54.49 | hrw | "Embedix 2.0 | Linux for Embedded Devices" - which device it is? :D |
| 20:57.29 | hrw | koen: and don't you that I can get bored to listen about gnome when I do not use it? |
| 20:58.10 | hrw | s/you that/you think that/ |
| 20:58.30 | koen | people actually listen to talks at conferences? |
| 20:58.42 | NAiL | nope |
| 20:58.50 | NAiL | ;) |
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| 20:59.45 | NAiL | that's a good idea |
| 21:00.04 | hrw | ;D |
| 21:00.16 | koen | crap |
| 21:00.23 | hrw | koen: what new from celf? |
| 21:00.28 | koen | I forgot to ask Tim and the ibm dude abhout PS3s |
| 21:00.35 | hrw | s/celf/elc |
| 21:00.53 | koen | hrw: TI boards for crofton and me and webservers for OE |
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| 21:01.29 | koen | oh dear |
| 21:01.30 | hrw | nice |
| 21:01.34 | koen | there's an alarm going off |
| 21:01.54 | hrw | I wonder will celf move misc1 to public access as part of it |
| 21:02.11 | koen | lots of people were asking about a source mirror :) |
| 21:02.26 | hrw | SOURCE_MIRROR_URL = "http://misc1/mirror/" is nice thing |
| 21:02.29 | koen | "Celf has one, and will make it public, right?" *looks at tim* |
| 21:02.50 | koen | (during my talk) |
| 21:02.50 | sirfred | koen: Any news about canola going open? |
| 21:02.52 | hrw | I need to finally write proper cleanup script |
| 21:03.02 | koen | sirfred: still stuck at nokia legal |
| 21:03.06 | hrw | before space will end |
| 21:03.22 | hrw | ~lart cvs/svn/git recipes in OE |
| 21:03.22 | ibot | pours hot grits down the front of cvs/svn/git recipes in OE's pants |
| 21:03.23 | sirfred | Anyway, I'm not able to get proper performance from gstreamer on zaurus |
| 21:03.37 | hrw | FSCK! end of space |
| 21:03.43 | hrw | /dev/sda3 218G 207G 0 100% /a |
| 21:04.35 | sirfred | But with a decent software as canola seems to be, perhaps I feel motivated to do some profiling |
| 21:04.38 | koen | sirfred: I talked to thaythan and ureas about performance |
| 21:04.57 | koen | they were very interesting in what bottlenecks you were seeing |
| 21:05.28 | koen | volunteers for adding cohoba to OE? |
| 21:05.38 | sirfred | koen: I merged armv5te code into the gst-ffmpeg bundled version |
| 21:05.52 | sirfred | koen: And, well, performance seems to be a little better, but still far from mplayer. |
| 21:06.51 | koen | is that patch in OE? |
| 21:06.53 | sirfred | koen: A curious thing is that audio, that in my tests is mp3 64kbps seems to mark the difference. Without audio, video doesn't drop, even decoding audio but sending it to /dev/null... |
| 21:07.12 | sirfred | koen: No, I didn't have time to prepare it properly. It's just a hack. |
| 21:07.52 | koen | later all |
| 21:07.53 | sirfred | koen: Probably it would be better trying to merge a newer version of ffmpeg. I just copied the armv5te asm bits, and changed the autoconf related stuff |
| 21:08.02 | woglinde | bye koen |
| 21:08.06 | sirfred | koen: cu |
| 21:09.16 | sirfred | hrw: It seems openzaurus people prefer to go angstrom |
| 21:09.33 | woglinde | sirfred I wonder why *g* |
| 21:10.11 | hrw | sirfred: and thats good |
| 21:10.18 | sirfred | woglinde: What *g* is supposed to mean? |
| 21:10.21 | sirfred | hrw: Yes, I also agree. |
| 21:10.40 | sirfred | hrw: More people working in the same direction is better |
| 21:11.02 | sirfred | At least if you're interesting in following that direction, of course. |
| 21:11.04 | woglinde | sirfred *g* means *grin* |
| 21:11.26 | sirfred | woglinde: Thanks. I'm not aware of a lot of irc jargon |
| 21:11.48 | woglinde | sirfred oh sorry |
| 21:11.53 | hrw | sirfred: I asked to not look as dictator telling "OZ is *DEAD* - you *MUST* work on Angstrom NOW!" :D |
| 21:12.05 | sirfred | woglinde: Just my fault. :) |
| 21:12.10 | sirfred | hrw: :) |
| 21:12.49 | woglinde | hrw you are no dictator |
| 21:12.57 | sirfred | hrw: Anyway, I'm not very happy with the UI we have with gpe. |
| 21:13.16 | hrw | sirfred: psokolovsky work on OPIE for angstrom |
| 21:13.35 | sirfred | hrw: OPIE have the same problems in my opinion. |
| 21:14.17 | sirfred | When I look to my husky screen, it looks like a miniaturized desktop, it's not confortable. |
| 21:15.25 | hrw | agreed |
| 21:15.30 | sirfred | Nokia interface, for example, looks better for a high DPI but still small screen. Or even the OpenMoko screenshots I've seen |
| 21:16.05 | sirfred | I wonder what Poky snapshots UI are using. Are they going matchbox-*-2 ? |
| 21:16.22 | hrw | yes |
| 21:16.34 | hrw | matchbox-*-1 is going into obsolete |
| 21:17.14 | sirfred | Perhaps it was just the screenshot, but it looked better that what I'm used to see with vanilla gpe. |
| 21:18.16 | sirfred | Just a curiosity, I measured today the husky screen, and got that is has 217 dpi approx. But the Xserver configuration is setting it to 200. |
| 21:18.17 | Kristoffer|afk | hrw Its working again now. Seems like the NAND was broken, so I downloaded a image of it and reflashed it. :D ... Gotta love the spitz |
| 21:19.33 | hrw | sirfred: feel free to try Poky images from http://pokylinux.org/ |
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| 21:21.17 | sirfred | hrw: I suppose I will run into problems to install packages generated from my OE builds, after that. |
| 21:21.35 | hrw | sirfred: angstrom ones? |
| 21:21.56 | sirfred | hrw: Yes, that would be the case, as I'm migrating to ansgtrom just now. |
| 21:22.22 | sirfred | But I'm afraid it's going to be a slow process ( NOTE: package glibc-2.5-r5: task do_compile: started) |
| 21:22.26 | hrw | sirfred: probably will work |
| 21:22.55 | sirfred | hrw: Was thinking about release versions and so. Anyway, if I like what I see, I can always borrow it for OE, I suppose. |
| 21:23.12 | sirfred | s/release versions/package versions/ |
| 21:23.21 | sirfred | Dependencies and so on. |
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| 21:24.27 | sirfred | And what about the enlightenment path, is it abandoned? |
| 21:24.54 | hrw | ask JustinP - he is e17 mastah |
| 21:25.29 | Kristoffer|afk | hrw tried to reflash the zaurus with my 2.6.20 kernel, back at the errors again. Atleast now I know how to fix them. Btw, zImage.bin = arch/boot/zImage ? |
| 21:26.29 | hrw | Kristoffer|afk: yes |
| 21:28.23 | hrw | ls of sources dir on mirror takes 16 minutes |
| 21:28.23 | Kristoffer|afk | hrw thx |
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| 21:36.42 | Kristoffer|afk | hrw I believe I've found what caused it. My kernel was 1.5MB and Richard has stated in his kernel.bb file that "Check the kernel is below the 1264*1024 byte limit for the PXA Zaurii |
| 21:37.02 | Kristoffer|afk | and if so "This kernel is too big for your PXA Zaurus and will destroy data if you flash it. Please reduce the size of the kernel by making more of it modular" |
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| 21:38.23 | hrw | flasher does not check it |
| 21:38.47 | Kristoffer|afk | So, it would explain my issues then. The kernel might be alright, just too big :D |
| 21:38.48 | hrw | so if you flash too large kernel (easy with 2.6 ones) then you are fucked |
| 21:39.06 | Kristoffer|afk | Thats what I've done :) thank good for being able to reflash Nand |
| 21:39.53 | Kristoffer|afk | Works fine now though, so Im very happy |
| 21:43.02 | hrw | and not afk ;D |
| 21:44.16 | Kristoffer | hehe |
| 21:45.01 | goxboxlive | hrw could you do some updates in oe for me? |
| 21:45.46 | hrw | goxboxlive: I go sleep in few minutes |
| 21:46.12 | goxboxlive | ok, maybe tomorrow then. Good night by the way |
| 21:46.30 | hrw | thx |
| 21:46.35 | hrw | you too |
| 21:46.37 | hrw | cu all |
| 21:47.00 | sirfred | hrw|gone: Good night |
| 21:47.00 | woglinde | nite hrw |
| 21:47.00 | sirfred | Good night all. |
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| 22:08.47 | goxboxlive | any one awake? |
| 22:08.54 | woglinde | yes |
| 22:09.12 | goxboxlive | do you know if am am able to build a ramdisk in OE (initrd) ? |
| 22:09.55 | woglinde | hm I believe no |
| 22:10.20 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 22:10.34 | woglinde | but you can grap the classes dir |
| 22:10.38 | woglinde | grep |
| 22:10.40 | goxboxlive | what kind of images is they wich ends with ext.gz? |
| 22:19.53 | likewise | goxboxlive: ramdisk may be "ext2.gz", or "cramfs" or any other support for ramdisks you have in the kernel |
| 22:21.18 | goxboxlive | likewise: Ok, thx, so actually if i creates a console image i will be able to use it as a ramdisk when i have support for it in my kernel zImage. |
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| 22:22.26 | likewise | goxboxlive: yes. For some filesystem types you would need something like rootfstype=jffs2, but most ramdisks are auto detected. |
| 22:23.19 | goxboxlive | likewise: Yes we use HaRET to boot, and we have a line for ramdisk i our startup script. |
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