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| 01:48.25 | kergoth | for whenever zecke is around, let him know that someone screwed up the perms on the berlios bitbake files |
| 01:48.25 | kergoth | http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ is a 403 |
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| 07:13.37 | shres | koen, is there any reason why glibc-intermediate gets build when i try to build matchbox and gtk ? |
| 07:13.54 | shres | koen, i am building glibc-2.5 by default |
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| 07:35.40 | zecke | koen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/qgil/465379096/in/photostream/ |
| 07:35.47 | zecke | lol place change your nick to kuhn :) |
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| 08:34.08 | vlo | hello everyone |
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| 08:35.11 | vlo | I have made a fresh mtn update for org.openembedded.dev yesterday (I hadn't done one during more than one month) and although the recipe is still here, I cannot build mx31ads-kernel |
| 08:35.50 | vlo | and bitbake bootstrap-image (configured for mx31ads) want to build me generic linux. Has something changed in kernel package build/configuration ? |
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| 09:15.19 | florian | good morning |
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| 12:53.46 | CIA-11 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r742dd10a... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules: merge |
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| 13:13.41 | likewise | hello all |
| 13:18.11 | NAiL | morning likewise :) |
| 13:18.16 | likewise | good morning |
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| 13:41.43 | RP | morning all |
| 13:42.06 | lrg | hey Richard |
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| 13:43.47 | zecke | lrg: congratulation for joining GMAE :) |
| 13:44.14 | CIA-11 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rd2365533... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules/dm7025: update to 20070420, fp v7 |
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| 13:45.12 | lrg | zecke: thanks, I think it's important for silicon vendors to get involved. I think it's best when we all work together. |
| 13:45.35 | zecke | :) |
| 13:45.50 | zecke | I'm glad Intel joined as well, and sort of glad MVista tossed their two cents |
| 13:46.31 | zecke | this results in "There is the community (GMAE) and there is Trolltech" |
| 13:46.31 | lrg | zecke: fwiw we are just a minor player compared to some of the others. it's just XorA|gone and I and I really hope we can help with audio and PM things moving forward. |
| 13:47.21 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:47.30 | lrg | zecke: do you have a link to the lwn subscriber page ? |
| 13:47.37 | CIA-11 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb3121b15... 10/ (1 packages/dvbtools/dvbtune_cvs.bb): dvbtune: fix cvs SRC_URI |
| 13:47.41 | CIA-11 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf80b9d9d... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2-streamproxy.bb): enigma2-streamproxy: update to 20070314 |
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| 13:47.47 | zecke | lrg: no, I think we have to wait one week |
| 13:47.55 | CIA-11 | 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf60b1d03... 10/ (1 packages/neon/neon_0.26.0.bb): neon-0.26.0: use this version by default |
| 13:51.33 | RP | lrg: I think ASoC has already moved audio forwards light years :) |
| 13:52.07 | lrg | RP: thanks, I hope it has :) |
| 13:52.15 | lrg | RP: working on i.MX31 now |
| 13:53.05 | RP | lrg: cool :) |
| 13:53.46 | lrg | RP: although sadly, I've now been in my new house 3 weeks and still have no adsl :( |
| 13:54.02 | lrg | RP: BT and Demon cant get their act together. |
| 13:54.34 | lrg | RP: This will impact me for patches until it's fixed. |
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| 13:54.35 | RP | lrg: Sadly it doesn't surprise me with BT being involved :-/ |
| 13:54.47 | lrg | ~lart BT for being BT |
| 13:54.47 | ibot | eats BT's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti for being BT |
| 13:55.04 | RP | I keep thinking of changing my provider but then I think of the pain and don't... |
| 13:55.44 | vlo | hi lrg |
| 13:55.50 | lrg | RP: it's also advisable never to move home.... |
| 13:55.55 | lrg | hey vlo |
| 13:56.57 | RP | lrg: I'm going to have to at some point. Not enough space here :/ |
| 13:57.32 | vlo | lrg: how are you doing with i.MX31 ? I've been hacking on it lately and it working great here ... I can't wait to get our first prototype of own design board |
| 13:58.43 | lrg | vlo: cool. Quinn is starting to submit some good patches now. Wont be too long until vanilla will boot with some working drivers.... |
| 14:01.02 | vlo | lrg: yep, it's a very good thing that it's is getting mainlined. I have followed this whole work very attentively. And the bsp rel3 was already much better (for instance spi driver is much cleaner and it uses kernel API which is very good) |
| 14:01.15 | hrw | koen: ping? |
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| 14:07.54 | florian | zecke: How much success did you have with the Greenphone? |
| 14:08.24 | zecke | florian: well, mostly none as my serial refuses to work |
| 14:08.43 | florian | zecke: oops |
| 14:08.45 | zecke | and I'm still schocked with the 17 binary only modules and need some spare time |
| 14:08.57 | florian | 17! |
| 14:09.04 | hrw | florian: do you have OE support for SkeyePad? |
| 14:09.15 | zecke | florian: yes some for toggling GPIO's :) |
| 14:09.31 | florian | hrw: for the xsl? |
| 14:09.42 | florian | zecke: what a shame :-/ |
| 14:09.50 | hrw | florian: the one which you had on fosdem |
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| 14:12.08 | zecke | florian: I spend most of my spare time sleeping or reading math textbooks |
| 14:12.20 | zecke | florian: If you want to I could send you the gp to take a look |
| 14:14.39 | florian | hrw: basically yes... Ole (who is doing the most of the kernel work) just returned from vacations. As soon as he gets the Kernel into a more or less usable state I can upload a tarball and push OE support. |
| 14:14.59 | florian | zecke: sounds like you have a hard time ;) |
| 14:15.20 | hrw | florian: great |
| 14:15.27 | zecke | florian: I like math (I really do) |
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| 14:15.39 | hrw | florian: did you used usb gadget on it? |
| 14:16.15 | shres | hey when i build ecore-fp i get an error checking abstract sockets... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling |
| 14:16.21 | shres | how do i fix this? |
| 14:17.27 | florian | zecke: would be nice, but currently i don't have enough time and enough phones for hacking around. but if you think it takes longer till you return from your maths books i try to free up some time slot :) |
| 14:17.51 | cbrake | should angstrom-console-image require gtk to be built? |
| 14:18.13 | cbrake | is angstrom-console-image supposed to require gui components? |
| 14:18.27 | florian | shres: you need to add the variable that is checked there to the site file. |
| 14:19.10 | florian | cbrake: maybe a side effect of some task... do these end up in the images? |
| 14:19.21 | cbrake | florian: not sure yet, not finished building |
| 14:19.42 | cbrake | florian: it looks like avahi may be driving the building of gtk ... |
| 14:19.53 | florian | hrw: yes, but its still buggy |
| 14:21.01 | zecke | florian: http://www.openembedded.org/~zecke/open_gp.jpg |
| 14:21.17 | zecke | florian: that is my state, I'm pretty sure serial is there but the oszi is not showing anything |
| 14:22.38 | florian | zecke: did you try a simple rs232 tester? |
| 14:22.55 | zecke | florian: in what way simple? |
| 14:23.03 | zecke | I could have messed up with the max232 again :} |
| 14:23.26 | zecke | bbl :) |
| 14:23.30 | florian | zecke: exactly :-) that would show as soon as some signal is wrong. |
| 14:23.53 | hrw | hrw: |
| 14:24.23 | hrw | cbrake: bitbake -g angstrom-console-image and check |
| 14:24.25 | zecke | florian: I still need to short circuit both sides to see if I get an echo |
| 14:25.49 | cbrake | hrw: "avahi-autoipd" -> "gtk+" |
| 14:26.09 | cbrake | hrw: "task-distro-base" -> "avahi-autoipd" [style=dashed] |
| 14:27.01 | shres | florian, site file = site.conf ? |
| 14:28.01 | hrw | shres: OE/site/* files |
| 14:28.12 | florian | yep |
| 14:29.11 | hrw | cbrake: remove that dependency from avahi stuff please and test |
| 14:29.53 | cbrake | hrw: ok, will do. |
| 14:29.53 | shres | ok, forgive my ignorance but since i am building for arm v5, i guess i will add it arm-linux? |
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| 14:30.55 | pH5 | cbrake: latest avahi contains libavahi-ui, which depends on gtk+. to build avahi without gtk, you have to add --disable-gtk EXTRA_OECONF again. |
| 14:31.02 | hrw | cbrake: yes |
| 14:31.17 | hrw | pH5: do we package it separatelly? |
| 14:32.21 | cbrake | hrw: does not look like it is package separately |
| 14:32.29 | hrw | so it is bug |
| 14:32.45 | cbrake | hrw: nod |
| 14:33.13 | cbrake | hrw: wait, there is a libavahi-ui |
| 14:33.39 | cbrake | hrw: package, but it seems we should not be required to build it. |
| 14:34.20 | hrw | cbrake: angstrom base images contain avahi |
| 14:35.09 | cbrake | hrw: yes, I just removed avahi from angstrom, and oe does not seem to be building gui components any more. |
| 14:35.55 | cbrake | hrw: what is the correct solution here -- I don't think it is acceptable to require build a ton of gui components just to get a console image. |
| 14:36.04 | pH5 | hrw: it's one source package. we could introduce an avahi-gtk flavour for angstrom-x11-image. |
| 14:37.04 | hrw | pH5: it is matter of building avahi_2.6.18.bb with or without gtk? |
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| 14:37.13 | pH5 | the same applies for the qt3/4 and python dependencies that are not built currently for the same reason. |
| 14:37.34 | hrw | and in result one extra package is created which depend on gtk? |
| 14:37.42 | pH5 | hrw: yes, currently it's only libavahi-ui that introduces the gtk+ dependency, and it is not used by anything else yet. |
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| 14:38.31 | hrw | pH5: I think that we can disable gtk now - when something will need it we will enable gtk support and have to wait a bit longer with build |
| 14:39.00 | hrw | python builds tcl/tk just for python-thinker (which no one use) |
| 14:39.13 | zecke | we need macports variants and a sane way to configure them |
| 14:50.46 | thesing | Yippee! My collie just woke up from suspend! |
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| 14:51.59 | sirfred | Good evening |
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| 14:53.14 | hrw | thesing: great |
| 14:53.23 | hrw | thesing: what do we lack on collie? |
| 14:54.42 | thesing | hrw: suspend, usb and audio. I didn't try the touchscreen, as the gpe-image didn't build. |
| 14:57.37 | hrw | thesing: tslib-tests is easier to install |
| 14:57.44 | hrw | thesing: iirc TS works |
| 14:58.47 | thesing | hrw: Thanks for the tip.I will try after I have the suspend fully working. |
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| 14:59.22 | hrw | thesing: look at tslib generated packages |
| 14:59.49 | hrw | thesing: you will get ts_print, ts_print_raw (same as ts_print but without plugins usage), ts_calibrate |
| 15:00.33 | thesing | hrw: BTW the cards didn't arrive yet. I hope the postal service didn't lose them. |
| 15:01.01 | hrw | I hope too |
| 15:01.28 | hrw | if they will lose them then contact |
| 15:02.52 | hrw | I think that I can get some more cards then |
| 15:03.48 | thesing | I don't think this will be necessary. They are not that bad. ;) |
| 15:04.04 | hrw | 1GB card can be bought for <10 eur now so I see no problem |
| 15:04.17 | hrw | thesing: but cards are |
| 15:04.47 | thesing | Hm. The CF interface doesn't survive suspend. |
| 15:05.49 | hrw | thesing: interface or card? |
| 15:06.02 | thesing | newer Cards seem to work better then the older ones. My 3 newer cards (about 1-2 years old) work. |
| 15:06.06 | thesing | the interface. |
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| 15:06.49 | hrw | thesing: I sent you two very old ones |
| 15:07.11 | thesing | ah. already spotted the error. I haven't enabled it after suspend ;) |
| 15:07.16 | hrw | ;lD |
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| 15:36.16 | xuumbi | greetings, how can I have a directory included in a package? |
| 15:37.03 | xuumbi | I've been using FILES_${PN} = "/path/to/binaries/*" which works fine for files, but not for an empty directory |
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| 15:45.53 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.16 | xuumbi | hrw: I feel stupid, using FILES_${PV} = "/path/to/*" is working for me |
| 15:57.31 | hrw | ;D |
| 15:57.55 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r08b9b7fc... 10/ (1 packages/avahi/avahi_0.6.18.bb): avahi: move libavahi-ui stuff to seperate packages |
| 15:59.04 | cbrake | koen|away: thanks! |
| 15:59.41 | koen | cbrake: it still depends on gtk+, though |
| 15:59.45 | hrw | cbrake: anyway it will build gtk but console rootfs will not depend on it |
| 16:00.08 | koen | hrw: no, every avahi package rdepends on gtk now.... |
| 16:00.17 | koen | which is bad |
| 16:00.38 | hrw | u.. fsck |
| 16:02.11 | koen | I can't really figure out why |
| 16:02.28 | hrw | my machines builds poky sdk now |
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| 16:11.03 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r431a527e... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-gmae.bb): task-gmae: add meta packages for the GNOME Mobile & Embedded Initiative |
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| 16:46.59 | koen | http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/466251314/ :) |
| 16:50.55 | philippe | grrr |
| 16:52.58 | koen | well, it ended yesterday |
| 16:53.09 | philippe | okay |
| 16:53.24 | koen | gah |
| 16:53.41 | koen | my flight leaves tomorrow 8:30 *a*m |
| 16:53.59 | philippe | I have messed that up to, but not like that |
| 16:54.27 | CIA-11 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r406806cf... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gpe-session-scripts-phone: Some updates to improve behaviour at session start. |
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| 17:09.32 | mrdata | hi all |
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| 17:20.38 | sirfred | Hmm, I see a recipe called task-gmae was added. |
| 17:21.06 | sirfred | But the recipes it references don't exist yet. |
| 17:22.24 | sirfred | I've just seen some screenshots of the openmoko UI, not sure if they are real or just some mockups and are really gorgeous. I would like something like that for the zaurus. What are they using, matchbox-*-2 ? |
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| 17:25.40 | robtaylor | sirfred: yeah its real, but slow |
| 17:26.14 | sirfred | robtaylor: A known reason? |
| 17:26.17 | sirfred | robtaylor: Hi |
| 17:26.33 | robtaylor | sirfred: early days, thats all |
| 17:26.41 | sirfred | So, there's hope. |
| 17:27.07 | robtaylor | sirfred: well you can build openmoko in oe, so you can play with it yourself ;) |
| 17:27.54 | sirfred | robtaylor: BTW, I went back into trying gstreamer in zaurus. |
| 17:28.12 | sirfred | robtaylor: Am I mistaken or we talked about that some weeks ago ? |
| 17:28.32 | sirfred | weeks, days, ... who knows |
| 17:29.30 | sirfred | Talking about UIs, what I dislike of gpe, is that... well, perhaps its a missconfiguration, but everything is too tiny |
| 17:30.22 | sirfred | And if I try to use greater fonts or icons, it looks bad: scaled icons, icon names truncated,... |
| 17:32.12 | koen | that's matchbox-desktop |
| 17:32.23 | sirfred | But openmoko ui, well, that's what I'm behind. |
| 17:32.50 | sirfred | Yes, the screen is 640x480 but what cares is DPI |
| 17:33.01 | sirfred | koen: :) |
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| 18:05.39 | robtaylor | sirfred: yeah, we did :) |
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| 19:02.41 | Ifaistos | Crofton : http://www.techonline.com/electronics_directory/livewebinar/198800643 |
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| 19:27.09 | vervain | Anyone know the scoop on the berlios outage? |
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| 21:36.32 | likewise | NAiL: noticed that uClibc 0.9.29_rc1 was released? |
| 21:36.49 | NAiL | nope |
| 21:38.17 | likewise | NAiL: you are using buildroot for PowerPC, right? |
| 21:39.04 | NAiL | I built my first working jffs2 image less than an hour ago |
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| 21:40.04 | likewise | NAiL: Congrats! Using BR, or OE? |
| 21:40.07 | likewise | HopsNBarley: Hello there |
| 21:40.24 | NAiL | likewise: using BR. Have plenty of OE ones ;) |
| 21:40.47 | HopsNBarley | hi likewise! |
| 21:42.22 | likewise | HopsNBarley: met with koen? |
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| 22:15.38 | mreimer_ | hrw: ping |
| 22:16.02 | HopsNBarley | likewise? |
| 22:16.13 | likewise | pong |
| 22:18.01 | hrw | mreimer_: you have luck ;) |
| 22:18.10 | mreimer_ | hrw: :-) |
| 22:19.03 | mreimer_ | hrw: I saw your commit to libxslt a while back to add the destdir patch. It works for libxslt, but breaks libxslt-native. What's the best way to fix this? Duplicate the patch in a new dir libxslt-native-1.1.17? |
| 22:19.37 | hrw | w8 - I have a look |
| 22:20.36 | hrw | "mtn rename libxslt-1.1.17 files --execute" should fix it |
| 22:20.56 | mreimer_ | hrw: ok, I'll do it. Commit it if it builds? |
| 22:21.03 | hrw | commit |
| 22:21.09 | mreimer_ | hrw: thanks |
| 22:24.29 | hrw | np |
| 22:29.39 | hrw | cu |
| 22:29.49 | mreimer_ | nite hrw |
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| 22:36.04 | CIA-11 | 03mreimer 07org.oe.dev * rc7fbc0cb... 10/ (1 packages/libxslt/libxslt-1.1.17 packages/libxslt/files): |
| 22:36.04 | CIA-11 | libxslt-native: fix by renaming the patch dir libxslt-1.1.17 to 'files'. |
| 22:36.04 | CIA-11 | Obtained from hrw. |
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| 22:54.31 | likewise | good nite chaps! |
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| 23:35.38 | hidoufr | Hi folks, sorry to disturb. Need help to contact the admin of the OESF forum. $ month ago I tried to register to be able to post on the OESF forums. But unfortunately, I didn't had my account validate it seems. 1 week ago, I tried to creat a news account, but it was the same (when I try to register, I got like my accounts don't exist). I tried to get support from admin@oesf.org . Mailing to this from my yahoo account, I got the follow |
| 23:40.24 | hidoufr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:53.33 | hidoufr | Well , googling a little : I found this post , related to the same email problem :http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21955 . So from 2006 ( the first time I tried to register, It seems the nobody was able to contact the admin@oesf.org , so nobody has been able to register to the oesf forum. |
| 23:54.16 | hidoufr | So pleasese could somebody, that has access to the oesf forum |
| 23:54.38 | NAbyss | hidoufr: oesf != #oe |
| 23:54.40 | hidoufr | try to keep in touch with those people |
| 23:56.00 | hidoufr | ... mmh .. thanks Nabyss . I know that . |
| 23:58.44 | hidoufr | but I which I could find somebody here, that might have already registered to the oesf. The pb. is that I don't have any other way to try to reach those people. I would have avoided to get into this IRC channel as you imagine . |
| 23:59.34 | hidoufr | oe != oesf .... I know that ... but oe close from oesf ... and you might have people from oe that might post to oesf. |
