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| 00:48.50 | T0mW | the online doc don't have anything, really, about what it is |
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| 04:53.53 | Ifaistos | morning all |
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| 07:13.05 | likewise | good morning |
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| 07:45.06 | likewise | morning guys |
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| 07:48.37 | mrdata | hi all |
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| 07:56.19 | RP | morning all |
| 07:56.37 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:01.12 | hrw | morning |
| 08:10.40 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:10.49 | koen | gconf-dbus is now at 2.16 :) |
| 08:10.53 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rab1c65e4... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): sane-srcdates: bump gconf-dbus to 2.16 |
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| 08:15.13 | koen | !oebug 2101 |
| 08:15.14 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2101, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-12 01:08 |
| 08:15.14 | cdbot2 | * * koen(AT)dominion.kabel.utwente.nl: do_patch errors not propagated |
| 08:15.15 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2101 |
| 08:15.40 | koen | RP: I know how to workaround 2101, but could you have a look at the deeper problem? |
| 08:15.42 | XorA | koen: ooops |
| 08:16.35 | XorA | yay Mamona |
| 08:17.11 | koen | XorA: they are the people that invited me to brazil :) |
| 08:17.28 | XorA | gah I want invited :-) |
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| 08:19.27 | RP | koen: You mean why the task doesn't fail? It will probably be anther exit code problem :/ |
| 08:20.06 | koen | RP: yes, that's what I mean |
| 08:20.22 | koen | XorA: they are also teaching llvm eabi and tls :) |
| 08:20.31 | XorA | schweet |
| 08:20.49 | XorA | and Im stuck here teaching idiots how to change volumes in codecs |
| 08:21.58 | koen | "Use the Foo/LLVM Compiler System, it runs infinite loops faster than the competition!". |
| 08:31.40 | CIA-11 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r82fb03e3... 10/ (1 packages/arm-kernel-shim/arm-kernel-shim_1.4.bb): arm-kernel-shim: Added version 1.4 |
| 08:31.49 | CIA-11 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ra1f47340... 10/ (1 packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.20.bb): Updated to latest SVN version |
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| 08:43.52 | koen | hrw: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.maemo.devel/9304 |
| 08:45.13 | hrw | thx |
| 08:45.31 | koen | (a mail from bhima in #openmoko) |
| 08:45.53 | LWT001 | I have successfully angstrom for s3c2410,thanks everyone. smdk2440 login: Angstrom test-20070411 smdk2440 ttySAC0 |
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| 09:06.32 | RP | rwhitby: Is DISTRO = "debianslug" supposed to work? |
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| 09:09.40 | do13_ | morning all |
| 09:09.58 | hrw | hi Dirk |
| 09:10.18 | do13_ | hey Marcin |
| 09:10.43 | RP | hi Dirk |
| 09:10.55 | do13_ | hi Richard |
| 09:15.04 | do13_ | RP: Ever played with uclinux? |
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| 09:17.41 | do13_ | hi Liam |
| 09:18.24 | koen | any suggestion what other topics I should cover: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/ELC2007.pdf ? |
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| 09:20.07 | florian | good morning |
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| 09:25.35 | koen | Crofton__: check this out: http://code.google.com/soc/gnome/appinfo.html?csaid=2EE7AB46D7D1579E |
| 09:30.25 | RP | do13_: No, not really |
| 09:31.20 | do13_ | RP: A customer asked. I have to write a driver for 2.4.22 uclinux |
| 09:31.55 | RP | do13_: 2.4.22 :-( |
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| 10:11.42 | philippe | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.09 | rwhitby | RP: emailed reply. DISTRO="slugos" |
| 10:12.59 | RP | rwhitby: Right, I thought it might not be supported anymore, thanks |
| 10:13.25 | rwhitby | I should remove them now. |
| 10:14.01 | rwhitby | RP: you might want to use Angstrom, with the changes in mokoslug.conf (which I need to merge back into Angstrom proper), and help us get altboot and sysconf to work with Angstrom. |
| 10:14.05 | RP | rwhitby: Probably best since they don't work as I've just proven... |
| 10:14.46 | RP | rwhitby: I'll look into that. At present, I want to get something working with the device, then I can look at development work :) |
| 10:15.12 | rwhitby | DISTRO = "mokoslug" is an EABI distro which should work |
| 10:15.20 | rwhitby | (it's just a cut-down Angstrom) |
| 10:15.47 | rwhitby | you just can't pivot to external disk easily yet (although altboot probably does work somewhat now) |
| 10:16.02 | rwhitby | all the bits are there, we just need to weave them together. |
| 10:16.05 | RP | rwhitby: Longer term, having it working within angstrom will be useful to me. I'm in the process of sorting out my build infrastructure as at the moment everything is a mess and I can't get anything done due to a lack of organisation ;-) |
| 10:16.25 | rwhitby | use mokoslug then, and you can move to angstrom without any rebuilds. |
| 10:17.07 | RP | ok. although debianslug did just finish building. I'll set another build away... |
| 10:18.18 | rwhitby | I'll be here tonight if you want to jointly work on merging mokoslug back into angstrom proper for nslu2le ... |
| 10:18.46 | rwhitby | bbiab (dinner) |
| 10:19.59 | RP | rwhitby: I need to do the day job until this evening but I've set the build away |
| 10:20.31 | XorA | RP: you need a build monkey |
| 10:21.24 | RP | XorA: The biggest problem was my primary build machine was offsite. Its now sitting next to me giving me a headache as its extrememly loud :/ |
| 10:21.46 | XorA | RP: heh, my primary build machine can no longer do builds :-( |
| 10:22.07 | RP | XorA: why? |
| 10:22.25 | XorA | RP: I think its worn out, get RAM corruption even with new RAM |
| 10:22.42 | RP | XorA: Ah :-( |
| 10:23.04 | XorA | RP: works ok as a desktop machine, just after about 30 mins of full load gets iffy |
| 10:23.45 | RP | rwhitby: No providers of build target ${DISTRO_EXTRA_DEPENDS} ;-) (I'll fix that) |
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| 11:16.01 | rwhitby | RP: so you're building DISTRO=mokoslug or DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" ? |
| 11:16.35 | RP | rwhitby: mokoslug |
| 11:17.07 | rwhitby | bootstrap-image |
| 11:17.39 | RP | rwhitby: slugos-image |
| 11:18.12 | rwhitby | no, you don't want slugos-image |
| 11:18.42 | rwhitby | mokoslug is trying to do things properly, which means using stock standard bootstrap-image, right? |
| 11:18.57 | RP | rwhitby: right :). I'm just confused |
| 11:19.20 | RP | rwhitby: It does preclude your own images, ideally the standard ones should work too though |
| 11:19.27 | RP | It doesn't |
| 11:19.32 | rwhitby | right |
| 11:20.11 | rwhitby | mokoslug.conf just puts multiple things in machine_task_provider ... |
| 11:20.36 | rwhitby | RP: feel free to edit mokoslug.conf to do the kernel image thing the right way for nslu2 now too :-) |
| 11:20.58 | RP | rwhitby: I need to update the Zaurus for that too! :) |
| 11:21.30 | RP | I've switched it to build a bootstrap-image now :) |
| 11:36.53 | koen | I think devices like the nslu2 and wrt could use their own image target (e.g shoelace-image) |
| 11:43.37 | zecke | ibot: test |
| 11:43.40 | ibot | Test Failed! |
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| 12:01.12 | chouimat | morning |
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| 12:15.33 | mr_nice | hi all |
| 12:18.32 | likewise | do13: what kind of device driver, and what processor arch? |
| 12:20.23 | likewise | koen: I would say add a single sheet that introduces OE for those who don't know shit about it. Then go deep straight away. |
| 12:22.08 | hrw | ~lart opensync |
| 12:22.08 | ibot | steals opensync's mojo |
| 12:25.02 | hrw | addtask unpack2 after do_unpack before do_patch |
| 12:35.00 | koen | likewise: ok, thanks |
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| 12:36.50 | likewise | koen: does your audience know OE already? |
| 12:36.59 | likewise | koen: or only half of them? |
| 12:38.19 | koen | probably half of them |
| 12:39.14 | hrw | uclibc means ppc or coldfire for me.. |
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| 12:41.24 | likewise | hrw: why not arm? |
| 12:41.39 | hrw | ah.. yes.. some arms are also noMMU |
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| 12:41.59 | likewise | hrw: do you mean ucLinux or uClibc? |
| 12:42.19 | hrw | uclinux - sorry |
| 12:42.22 | likewise | hrw: uClibc is independent of MMU availability, isn't it? |
| 12:42.26 | likewise | hrw: ok, clear |
| 12:42.55 | chouimat|away | bye |
| 12:51.13 | hrw | koen: ping |
| 12:51.23 | koen | hrw: pong |
| 12:51.45 | hrw | koen: sudo apache2ctl start on ewi? |
| 12:52.37 | CIA-11 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rfdec91db... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-slugos.bb): task-slugos: Set variables if unset to avoid errors |
| 12:52.40 | CIA-11 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rd253693f... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): debianslug.conf, openslug.conf: Deprecated in favour of common slugos.conf |
| 12:52.44 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r05e24f56... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: also ship ide-disk module. Thanks to Michael Raitza for spotting that |
| 12:54.30 | hrw | koen: ? |
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| 12:56.14 | tzanger | quick question on OE targets that I can't seem to find on the website... Is there a list of supported targets? I'm specifically looking for m68knommu. |
| 12:56.36 | rwhitby | conf/distro, conf/machine |
| 12:56.45 | hrw | tzanger: we do not support m68k yet |
| 12:56.51 | koen | hrw: done, debian broke python, so pod_python broke apache |
| 12:57.17 | tzanger | hrw: damn, and buildroot supports m68k but not -nommu... I'm trying to find a cleaner build environment than uClinux's :-) |
| 12:57.39 | koen | add support for it :) |
| 12:57.56 | tzanger | koen: What's the closest nommu target OE supports at this time? |
| 12:58.18 | tzanger | I'm not against doing so, I've already built the hardware, but I'm not sure how much of a ride I'm in for :-) |
| 12:58.46 | hrw | tzanger: nommu need nommu kernel and normal userspace? |
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| 12:59.15 | hrw | thesing: hi |
| 12:59.17 | tzanger | hrw: pretty much; there are some restrictions on the userspace apps (no vfork, for example) but by and large normal userspace apps are supported. |
| 12:59.47 | thesing | hi |
| 13:00.04 | hrw | tzanger: then the most work will be populating site/ file for m68knommu |
| 13:00.06 | tzanger | libc needs nommu support too (mostly for remapping) |
| 13:00.17 | tzanger | hrw: hmm, I'll hve to give that a shot, thanks |
| 13:00.25 | hrw | thesing: I need to finally test your driver |
| 13:01.02 | thesing | did you allready build a working kerne? |
| 13:01.39 | hrw | thesing: I suspect problem with my image rather then kernel - kernel booted |
| 13:02.21 | thesing | I couldn't build anything the last two days (problems on native packages) but now it magically works again. |
| 13:03.08 | thesing | I will build an Image for testing soon. |
| 13:03.21 | hrw | thesing: can you attach diff between your recipe and OE one? then I will push it into repo |
| 13:04.46 | thesing | I will do, after I tested if its builds and works. |
| 13:05.07 | hrw | ok |
| 13:05.57 | thesing | To create Images that are useful without a serial cable you also have to push my fixes to the keymap-package. (its already in the bugtracker) |
| 13:06.53 | hrw | do you remember which bug is it? |
| 13:07.24 | hrw | !oebug 1996 |
| 13:07.27 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1996, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-15 14:42 |
| 13:07.28 | cdbot2 | * * thommy(AT)tabao.de: broken keymap for collie with kernel linux-rp_2.6.17 |
| 13:07.29 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1996 |
| 13:08.15 | thesing | yes its this bug. |
| 13:08.43 | thesing | wait a moment. I will check, if the keymap still works on 2.6.20 |
| 13:09.16 | hrw | ok. |
| 13:10.01 | thesing | It does work. |
| 13:11.07 | hrw | thx |
| 13:11.35 | hrw | thesing: which cards you use for testing? |
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| 13:12.42 | thesing | I use a 1G SD Card and a 256M one. Both are noname models. |
| 13:13.03 | hrw | I will test with my cards when get collie working |
| 13:13.28 | hrw | mmc: 16M, sd: 64, 256, 512, 1G, microSD: 128M, rs-mmc: 64M |
| 13:13.29 | koen | hrw: collie with 16GB sdhc :) |
| 13:13.50 | thesing | how much is such a card, anyway? |
| 13:13.55 | hrw | from my cards 256MB SD is most problematic, then 1G SD one |
| 13:14.08 | hrw | koen: sdhc is not yet in kernel iirc |
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| 13:16.14 | hrw | ok. stopped on freeing init |
| 13:17.24 | CIA-11 | 03Thomas 07org.oe.dev * rfc25101f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): keymaps: fix keymap for collie/2.6 - close #1996 |
| 13:18.40 | thesing | Whoah my first OE fix ;) |
| 13:18.55 | NAiL | congrats |
| 13:19.09 | XorA | thesing: you next one is more impressive :-) |
| 13:19.17 | XorA | thesing: the next one makes collie rule again |
| 13:19.28 | hrw | it boots :) |
| 13:20.09 | do13__ | likewise: tty driver for uart over spi for coldfire |
| 13:20.42 | thesing | the hardest thing was measuring the clock speeds .. |
| 13:22.09 | hrw | sd/mmc driver for collie == death of OZ 3.5.5 probably |
| 13:23.14 | hrw | thesing: 'error requesting CID: 4' is normal? |
| 13:23.57 | thesing | no. :( |
| 13:24.09 | XorA | everyone to Poznan for the funeral |
| 13:24.29 | hrw | ok, collie hang |
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| 13:29.22 | goxboxlive | hrw: Are you there? |
| 13:29.30 | hrw | no, I am at home |
| 13:29.40 | goxboxlive | could you aply some patches for me |
| 13:30.26 | goxboxlive | Bug#: 2083 and Bug#: 2083 |
| 13:30.46 | XorA | goxboxlive: twice? |
| 13:30.53 | XorA | !oebug 2083 |
| 13:30.54 | goxboxlive | sorry i meant 2083 and 2100 |
| 13:30.54 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2083, Status: RESOLVED (REMIND), Created: 2007-04-05 00:56 |
| 13:30.56 | cdbot2 | * * goxboxlive(AT)gmail.com: HTC Universal kernel keymap patch |
| 13:30.57 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2083 |
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| 13:34.48 | hrw | koen: probably you marked it as invalid and then goxboxlive marked as remind |
| 13:35.34 | koen | hrw: I didn't touch that bug |
| 13:37.30 | hrw | hmm.. to buy 3rd multicard reader or not.. |
| 13:37.40 | hrw | this one just to get usb2.0 hub ;D |
| 13:38.34 | thesing | one can never own enough toys ;) |
| 13:38.34 | NAiL | !oebug 2100 |
| 13:38.36 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2100, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-11 08:41 |
| 13:38.37 | cdbot2 | * * goxboxlive(AT)gmail.com: xqt2 minor bug |
| 13:38.38 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2100 |
| 13:38.46 | NAiL | thesing: agreed ;) |
| 13:39.57 | hrw | thesing: 5 palmtop-like devices, few cf cards (bt/wifi), do not know how many memory cards, lot of usb cables... |
| 13:41.48 | thesing | I need some more toys. I had to give my borzoi to my girlfriend in order to get my collie back ;) |
| 13:42.21 | hrw | thesing: want another collie? |
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| 13:46.47 | thesing | I don't know if I'll have time to do some more kernel work after this week. My semester break will be over then ;( |
| 13:46.47 | hrw | thesing: send us patch for recipe and we will get testers for it |
| 13:46.48 | hrw | ~lart my serial port for not working |
| 13:46.48 | ibot | burns my serial port to a crisp with a laser for not working |
| 13:47.33 | NAiL | koen: btw, regarding uclibc. Have you tried pulling the patches that openwrt uses? |
| 13:48.04 | koen | NAiL: no, I still wait for .29 |
| 13:48.41 | NAiL | It's been delayed since last year sometime. Someone should give them a hard nudge. |
| 13:49.20 | koen | OTOH, one could add .28.3 + buildroot patches |
| 13:50.13 | NAiL | was 28.3 the last one? |
| 13:50.31 | koen | "28 February 2007, uClibc 0.9.28.3 Released " |
| 13:50.59 | NAiL | ah |
| 13:51.01 | XorA | hrw: there are two OE Zauruses doing nothing much at all at Wolfson |
| 13:51.36 | NAiL | I've got a couple of patches from an OE user trying to get uclibc to compile. I guess I should combine those with .28.3 and buildroot patches. |
| 13:52.05 | thesing | hrw: won't the other zaurus' break if we just update the kernelsource to 2.6.20.4 in linux-rp_2.6.20.bb ? |
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| 13:54.15 | koen | NAiL: http://fukung.net/v/537/disksvin.jpg |
| 13:54.26 | hrw | XorA: I know. but I want to get that driver |
| 13:55.04 | NAiL | koen: omg ;) |
| 13:55.16 | hrw | thesing: update it by patching 2.6.20 with 2.6.20.4 patch |
| 13:55.30 | hrw | thesing: or other 2.6.20-stable one |
| 13:55.32 | NAiL | That's gotta make a lot of noise :P |
| 13:56.13 | thesing | hrw: a good idea |
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| 14:02.03 | hrw | hi vivijim |
| 14:02.49 | vivijim | hrw: hi! |
| 14:05.50 | CIA-11 | 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * r62504594... 10/ (1 classes/package_deb.bbclass): package_deb.bbclass: add shebang, closes #2086 |
| 14:06.42 | Kristoffer | hrw dont break support for my Spitz and I'll be happy :P |
| 14:06.52 | hrw | XorA: I have 3 Z here |
| 14:07.07 | XorA | hrw: I have 5500, C860, C3200 that are mine |
| 14:07.40 | hrw | 5500, c760 mine, sl6000 OE |
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| 14:11.04 | XorA | if someone gets collie kernel in tonight, I can compile image and load it tomorrow :-) |
| 14:12.23 | thesing | I'm building one ATM. If it works I will post on oz-devel. |
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| 14:16.37 | thesing | could someone close bug #1997? its been pushed in 05e24f5610763d569f2c11c8f26e2152e34063bb |
| 14:16.44 | koen | you can |
| 14:16.44 | Crofton | gm |
| 14:16.50 | koen | hey Crofton |
| 14:17.17 | koen | Crofton: did you see the gstreamer link? |
| 14:17.18 | XorA | !oebug 1997 |
| 14:17.20 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1997, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-15 17:27 |
| 14:17.21 | cdbot2 | * * thommy(AT)tabao.de: task-base does not contain kernel-module-ide-disk |
| 14:17.22 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1997 |
| 14:18.44 | thesing | koen: tnx I didn't know that. |
| 14:19.32 | Crofton | I don't think so |
| 14:20.35 | koen | Crofton: http://code.google.com/soc/gnome/appinfo.html?csaid=2EE7AB46D7D1579E |
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| 14:21.12 | Crofton | Thanks! |
| 14:21.25 | Crofton | Very intriguing |
| 14:21.33 | Crofton | I need to read up on gstreamer now |
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| 14:29.06 | thesing | is bitbake able to handle gziped or bzipped patches? |
| 14:29.15 | hrw | yes |
| 14:30.21 | thesing | does it "just work" or do have to specify something special in the url? |
| 14:30.28 | hrw | just work |
| 14:30.31 | koen | "just works"(TM) |
| 14:31.15 | thesing | great! |
| 14:31.40 | hrw | ~lart scons |
| 14:31.40 | ibot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, scons, this won't hurt a bit...." |
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| 14:53.10 | CIA-11 | 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * rfa1ab853... 10/ (1 conf/distro/mamona.conf): mamona: add distro config for mamona (http://www.vivi.eng.br/index.php?title=Main_Page), closes #2103 |
| 15:01.50 | hrw | ~lart scons again |
| 15:01.50 | ibot | takes scons again to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 15:05.39 | koen | heh |
| 15:05.46 | koen | the maemo-dev mailinglist is getting funny |
| 15:06.03 | koen | the scratchbox dude is annoyed that mamona hates scratchbox |
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| 15:11.11 | hrw | someone love it? |
| 15:12.56 | koen | hrw: I guess the scratchbox dudes and nokia management |
| 15:13.28 | hrw | I meant 'normal people' |
| 15:13.34 | koen | heh, no |
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| 15:14.03 | koen | hey zecke |
| 15:14.09 | koen | or SoCke ;) |
| 15:14.10 | zecke | ho |
| 15:14.21 | zecke | koen: thanks |
| 15:14.52 | hrw | OE does not set HOST_SYS - right? |
| 15:15.06 | zecke | check conf/bitbake.conf |
| 15:15.34 | koen | ./bitbake.conf:47:HOST_SYS = "${HOST_ARCH}${HOST_VENDOR}-${HOST_OS}" |
| 15:15.38 | hrw | hm.. |
| 15:16.17 | hrw | koen: Poky has libopensync 0.22 |
| 15:16.27 | koen | hrw: congrats |
| 15:16.59 | koen | is it cwiis-ware or can it be merge without a rewrite? |
| 15:17.04 | koen | merged* |
| 15:17.25 | zecke | that is mean |
| 15:18.31 | koen | yes, but I don't want to waste my time |
| 15:18.41 | RP | koen: Comments like that don't help community relations ;-) |
| 15:18.43 | zecke | ~lart nokia |
| 15:18.43 | ibot | pushes the wall down onto nokia whilst whistling innocently |
| 15:19.10 | hrw | koen: *I* wrote them |
| 15:19.10 | koen | RP: community? I though poky was commercial ;) |
| 15:19.16 | koen | hrw: cool, please add them to OE |
| 15:19.35 | hrw | koen: first I have to finish svn ones |
| 15:19.46 | hrw | zecke: +1 from me |
| 15:19.51 | hrw | ~curse nokia |
| 15:19.55 | RP | koen: Poky can't therefore have a relationship with the community? |
| 15:20.12 | zecke | hrw: is that new location of syncml-client? |
| 15:20.32 | hrw | syncml is not touched |
| 15:21.50 | hrw | ~lart scons and opensync again |
| 15:21.50 | ibot | whips out a shotgun, trudges over to scons and opensync again, and goes postal |
| 15:23.53 | zecke | ~lart nokia for representing a Tree inside a table! |
| 15:23.53 | ibot | pours gasoline all over nokia, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze for representing a Tree inside a table! |
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| 15:31.31 | hrw | libopensync.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped |
| 15:31.40 | hrw | did I tell how I like scons? |
| 15:33.40 | XorA | hrw: I heard you love scons and want to have its babies |
| 15:37.23 | koen | I assume 'inherit scons' didnt work |
| 15:38.02 | hrw | koen: yep |
| 15:42.09 | koen | psokolovsky: btw, hx4700-acx also spams syslog |
| 15:43.30 | Crofton | hmm, anyone built python for angstrom lately? |
| 15:46.10 | koen | Crofton: yes, yesterday |
| 15:46.19 | koen | (perl seems to be broken, though) |
| 15:47.15 | Crofton | the QA failures in python are fixed then? |
| 15:47.44 | koen | I haven't noticed QA issues |
| 15:47.48 | Crofton | hm |
| 15:47.55 | Crofton | I am goign to nuke tmp and rebuild |
| 15:50.09 | Crofton | my toolchain needs rebuilding with newer gcc ... |
| 15:50.25 | Crofton | I hate it when gcc rebuilds, I like to get everything rebuilt then |
| 15:50.31 | psokolovsky | koen: quite possibly. However, the next aim I'd see for hx4700 is swicthing to defconfigman, like h3900, h4000, h5000 have already. |
| 15:50.56 | koen | and LAB? |
| 15:51.08 | koen | I hate being forced to do off-line upgraded |
| 15:51.22 | koen | (and fiddle with CF cards) |
| 15:51.27 | koen | upgrading* |
| 15:51.49 | koen | ~lart kernel image partitions |
| 15:51.49 | ibot | makes a balloon animal out of kernel image partitions |
| 15:52.38 | koen | ERROR: QA Issue: non debug package contains .debug directory: python-misc path /work/ppc603e-angstrom-linux/python-2.4.4-ml1/install/python-misc/usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/.debug/_tkinter.so |
| 15:52.39 | koen | ERROR: QA ran found fatal errors. Please consider fixing them |
| 15:52.54 | Crofton | well, repeatable problems are the best kind |
| 15:55.05 | koen | I think I have a fix |
| 15:55.42 | psokolovsky | koen: well, LAB on long to-do. Noone works on it now, unfortunately. People sniffed existance of initramfs-based bootloader, proclaimed that LAb must die, scared off novices who wanted to play with LAB, and now stuff just stalls ;-) |
| 15:56.10 | Crofton__ | koen, I will test later, rebuilding bootstrap-image atm |
| 15:56.25 | Crofton__ | Some guy in Estonia needs python on the OSK :) |
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| 15:58.40 | koen | Crofton__: python is already in the angstrom feeds |
| 15:59.15 | Crofton | hmm |
| 15:59.22 | Crofton | you build for OSK? |
| 15:59.25 | koen | 'ipkg install python' :) |
| 15:59.33 | koen | Crofton: OSK is armv5te |
| 15:59.47 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r23575cdf... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-2.4.4-manifest.inc): |
| 15:59.47 | CIA-11 | python-2.4.4-manifest.inc: fix python-misc |
| 15:59.47 | CIA-11 | * FILES_foo is useless is foo isn't in PACKAGES.... |
| 15:59.56 | koen | Crofton: so it can use http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/python/ |
| 16:00.08 | Crofton | interesting |
| 16:00.19 | Crofton | did it setup the ipkg config properly? |
| 16:00.42 | koen | hmm |
| 16:02.18 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc745880b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: add omap5192 support |
| 16:02.34 | koen | Crofton: there you go :) |
| 16:02.38 | Crofton | do you keep images there also? |
| 16:03.17 | koen | no, but if you give me your ssh/dsa key you can upload them yourself to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/ :) |
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| 16:04.50 | Crofton | ok |
| 16:05.05 | Crofton | I'll drop the key in the email sometime |
| 16:06.45 | empty_mind | do we have a profiler for openembedded |
| 16:07.16 | Crofton | oprofile? |
| 16:08.44 | empty_mind | hmm |
| 16:08.49 | empty_mind | let me try |
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| 16:15.26 | koen | Crofton: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/omap5912osk/20070412/ :) |
| 16:15.55 | Crofton | hmm, you running abuild atm? |
| 16:17.25 | koen | I just built and uploaded a console image |
| 16:18.00 | Crofton | flash size is 32M |
| 16:18.26 | Crofton | the ext2 images won't be useful |
| 16:18.48 | koen | loop-chroot on CF :) |
| 16:18.51 | Crofton | I'll flash my osk with them and see what happens |
| 16:18.55 | Crofton | heh |
| 16:18.57 | Crofton | ok |
| 16:19.09 | Crofton | I don't want you burning disk space unless it is useful |
| 16:19.29 | Crofton | if these work, I'll update the cellinux wiki |
| 16:20.32 | Crofton | http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/OSK |
| 16:21.40 | koen | Crofton: check point #3 of TODO :) |
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| 16:22.14 | Crofton | where is todo? |
| 16:22.35 | Crofton | README.txt? |
| 16:22.35 | koen | http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/OSK at the bottom |
| 16:22.52 | Crofton | heh |
| 16:22.58 | Crofton | I never read that far :) |
| 16:24.05 | Crofton | see point 2 also, it needs wacking |
| 16:24.05 | Crofton | gah, I need to do some real work for a bit |
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| 17:31.19 | empty_mind | is there a document on deriving a distro from openembedded ? |
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| 17:32.29 | koen | hrw: http://www.nopcode.org/0xFFFF/ |
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| 17:39.12 | hrw | thx |
| 17:42.26 | koen | hrw: It's also in your blog moderation queue :) |
| 17:44.32 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.37 | hrw | new task-base deps |
| 17:45.09 | hrw | koen: moderated |
| 17:45.47 | koen | hrw: nice theme on haerwu.biz |
| 17:46.25 | hrw | thx |
| 17:48.12 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.16 | hrw | this is task-boot |
| 17:48.32 | hrw | udev/sysvinit/tinylogin are optional ;D |
| 17:51.25 | Crofton | koen, uboot image worked ... |
| 17:51.34 | koen | Crofton: cool |
| 17:52.20 | Crofton | flashing kernel and fs next |
| 17:53.03 | Crofton | u-boot is always scary as recovery from failure is always a nuisance |
| 17:53.17 | tzanger | amen to that |
| 17:53.21 | tzanger | and u-boot's a mess to begin with |
| 17:53.28 | tzanger | but i am thankful it's there |
| 17:53.30 | Crofton | heh |
| 17:53.54 | Crofton | I do not have JTAG, so I have to use the flashrecovery utility, which is tricky to get it to work |
| 17:54.02 | Crofton | although I think I have mastered it |
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| 18:01.03 | Crofton | koen, boots |
| 18:01.14 | koen | woooo! |
| 18:02.07 | Crofton | how do I spell python? |
| 18:02.12 | Crofton | ipkg install python |
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| 18:03.17 | Crofton | hm dns look up seems broken ... |
| 18:05.02 | Crofton | ah, hack resolv.conf, ipkg update, ipkg install python |
| 18:05.14 | Crofton | I can look at it some |
| 18:06.09 | Crofton | I'n not sure I have ever made namelookups actually work :) |
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| 18:15.38 | hrw | http://pastebin.ca/436746 - new task-base result for progear/angstrom (both modified) |
| 18:16.00 | hrw | opinions? |
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| 18:23.19 | hrw | no one? |
| 18:23.46 | koen | looks ok after a brief glance |
| 18:35.16 | hrw | mail sent |
| 18:35.40 | hrw | few distro maintainers added to Cc: to mark people which from I expect some reaction |
| 18:35.41 | hrw | ;) |
| 18:35.57 | HopsNBarley | koen, remind me when you arrive? |
| 18:37.01 | koen | sunday night |
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| 18:50.21 | HopsNBarley | koen, do you have an evening free you'd like to do something? dinner? drinks? I know a great beer-bar in San Fran.... |
| 18:56.12 | hrw | cu |
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| 19:01.42 | koen | HopsNBarley: I don't know when I have an evening of, but I'd certainly like to go for beer/dinner/drinks in SF next week |
| 19:02.46 | HopsNBarley | koen, got any food preferences? there is good thai and indian close to the bar. |
| 19:03.01 | koen | I'm open for anything |
| 19:03.14 | goxboxlive | hi hrw, are you here/home ? |
| 19:04.01 | HopsNBarley | excellent. tues-thurs are better for me. i'll bring along a few straggly characters (-; |
| 19:04.15 | koen | :) |
| 19:04.20 | HopsNBarley | are you traveling with anyone else? |
| 19:04.30 | koen | not that I know off :) |
| 19:06.31 | Crofton | Wish I could see the talk :) |
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| 19:09.11 | koen | You can comment on the draft at http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/ELC2007.pdf |
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| 19:18.55 | robtaylor | koen: looks good :) |
| 19:22.10 | koen | That's because I used Apple Keynote :) |
| 19:22.48 | Crofton | koen, a guy in #ol is going to try out the Angstrom OSK images tomorrow |
| 19:23.12 | koen | Crofton: cool, I'm looking forward to test reports |
| 19:23.24 | Crofton | in fact, he just left this channel |
| 19:24.27 | Crofton | you kind of start in pretty fast :) |
| 19:24.36 | koen | The signal processing people were flattered by your interest in the uni SDR project ;) |
| 19:24.43 | koen | s/;)/:) |
| 19:25.21 | Crofton | they still want to make their own hw? |
| 19:26.18 | koen | yes, since they got funding for it |
| 19:26.23 | Crofton | heh |
| 19:26.28 | Crofton | that makes the world go round |
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| 19:30.43 | Crofton | You need to insert OE into the hadrware |
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| 19:49.06 | koen | when I mention "embedded" and "200MHz" in the same sentence they fallover laughing |
| 19:49.49 | chouimat | koen next time try : 14MHz, 32KB ram and 512KB flash |
| 19:51.25 | koen | i could try |
| 19:51.31 | chouimat | hehe |
| 19:51.49 | koen | "OE runs on 5 opamps and a capacitator" |
| 19:51.54 | Crofton | they must be high power guys |
| 19:52.40 | Crofton | http://www.lyrtech.com/DSP-development/dsp_fpga/sffsdrdevelopmentplatform.php |
| 19:52.49 | chouimat | koen: last time I told this to a student I was interviewing he asked me" but how can you run java on this??" |
| 19:52.54 | Crofton | This will be the source of my next problem |
| 19:53.30 | vivijim | koen: "Or invite us at conferences" hehehehe |
| 19:55.48 | chouimat | koen example 2 and 3 are great |
| 20:10.09 | hvontres|poodle | chouimat: wow...that must be *REALLY* embedded...:) One of these days I need to get my old 68332 BCC setup working again |
| 20:11.52 | chouimat | hvontres|poodle: LPC2138, I currently have the LPC2148 ... 42KB of ram and USB |
| 20:13.13 | chouimat | RP: the lpc2148 was supposed to become an usb interface for CANBus (using CAN Open) |
| 20:14.11 | hvontres|poodle | RP: you could turn it into your own private weather station :) |
| 20:15.05 | hvontres|poodle | chouimat: why not use an EzUSB for that? |
| 20:15.07 | RP | hvontres|poodle: It was designed for automotive stuff - engine monitoring specifically. I could just use modern hardware to do the same job much more easily now... |
| 20:15.37 | RP | chouimat: interesting. I once started looking into that kind of thing but I've got rather distracted since then :/ |
| 20:15.47 | tzanger | there's nothing wrong with little systems |
| 20:15.57 | chouimat | hvontres|poodle: because I wasn't the one making the decisions ... and it was supposed to be a commercial product |
| 20:16.02 | tzanger | I've got an 80MHz MCF5282 beside me here I'm working on |
| 20:16.13 | tzanger | and before that was an 8MHz 8-bitter which obviously didn't run linux :-) |
| 20:16.36 | chouimat | I have a few 6809 systems here ... and they still works |
| 20:16.57 | chouimat | koen hehe |
| 20:17.03 | RP | tzanger: Agreed, like everything there is a place for them. I could just do much more useful things with a heavier system now in this case :) |
| 20:17.19 | tzanger | RP: indeed |
| 20:17.41 | tzanger | the place I get these boards mfg at they've got a client doing some kind of high-end F1 racer datalogging |
| 20:19.22 | RP | This logger was on a kart. The kind of kart with a six speed gear box, 150mph top speed and acceleration 0-60 in a few seconds :) |
| 20:19.55 | koen | Crofton: the sff sdr looks quite nice |
| 20:21.34 | tzanger | nice |
| 20:21.34 | tzanger | that's the kind of kart I'd love to have |
| 20:21.35 | hvontres|poodle | RP: too bad the kart isn't still attached...:) |
| 20:21.35 | chouimat | hehe |
| 20:21.35 | koen | Crofton: although davinci is still unknown territory for opensource |
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| 20:21.39 | RP | hvontres|poodle: I still have the kart although in too many bits. The engines have a lot in common with a hand grenade ;-) |
| 20:22.23 | hvontres|poodle | RP: any pictures from when it was together? |
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| 20:22.58 | koen | Crofton: btw, do you know of any realtime fft visualization thingies? |
| 20:23.20 | RP | hvontres|poodle: http://www.rp.rpsys.net/images/karts/CR250-1.jpg |
| 20:24.08 | RP | hvontres|poodle: With http://www.rp.rpsys.net/images/karts/pistons/cr250-1.jpg to explain why it was regularly in bits ;-) |
| 20:25.25 | rwhitby | morning |
| 20:25.36 | rwhitby | RP: how did the build go? |
| 20:25.52 | RP | rwhitby: completed :) |
| 20:26.01 | Crofton | koen, not yet |
| 20:26.19 | rwhitby | RP: did the mokoslug/bootstrap-image build have any things that should be fixed? |
| 20:26.26 | Crofton | apparently the sff sdr is supposed to ship next Tuesday |
| 20:26.46 | Crofton | I think it will drive me crazy, but better Linux than Integrity ... |
| 20:26.53 | RP | rwhitby: I didn't have to change anything. I haven't looked at the output properly yet |
| 20:27.03 | RP | rwhitby: I'm about to try the image... |
| 20:27.12 | hvontres|poodle | RP: Ouch.... |
| 20:27.15 | koen | Crofton: TI is going to open up some more davinci bits this months |
| 20:27.24 | Crofton | I hope they hurry up |
| 20:27.40 | Crofton | I am going to be a real nuisance to some people over this board:) |
| 20:27.46 | koen | "next 4 months or so" <- Rishi last month |
| 20:27.52 | RP | hvontres|poodle: Keep in mind it does that whilst driving at race speed and you start to get the idea of the fun :} |
| 20:28.15 | Crofton | Board will ship in two weeks, Lyrtech 25 weeks ago |
| 20:28.31 | Crofton | er 2.5 |
| 20:29.38 | hvontres|poodle | RP: I can see how carting would be an "interesting" hobby. I guess compared to that debuggging bitbake is a cake walk :) |
| 20:29.49 | koen | Crofton: how much is the board + RF module? |
| 20:30.07 | Crofton | to much :) |
| 20:30.11 | Crofton | 10K usd I think |
| 20:30.50 | hvontres|poodle | koen: "For details about pricing and the platform, contact Lyrtech" == lots of money |
| 20:31.06 | Crofton | yep, they are high dollar hw guys |
| 20:31.48 | mwester_ | translation: 'If you have to ask, you can't afford it' |
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| 20:32.40 | sirfred | Good night |
| 20:34.00 | koen | damn, hrw beat my by 2 minutes |
| 20:34.21 | koen | 'night all |
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| 20:38.15 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | Web: http://www.openembedded.org | Bugtracker: bugs.openembedded.org | This is not a distro support channel | FOSDEM'07 was a huge success. Let's try to get a larger booth next year... |
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| 20:40.12 | mithro | admins: ping? |
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| 20:41.17 | RP | mithro: Which ones? |
| 20:41.24 | mithro | not sure |
| 20:56.13 | mmp | mithro: I think RP might want to know 'GSoC ones'... |
| 20:57.25 | mithro | mmp: wasn't after the SoC ones |
| 20:57.43 | mmp | mithro: ahh, sorry then:( |
| 20:58.01 | mithro | mmp: that is okay |
| 20:58.14 | mmp | I just that you asked similar question at #hho when there was talk about GSoC... |
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| 21:13.46 | sirfred | Night |
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| 22:16.53 | dan2003 | is it possible to build opie+qt(e) in such a way that it runs on X11 nativley, without the qvfb thing? |
| 22:17.49 | dan2003 | i 've tried to build opie with the X11 option but it fails to link with libqpe saying its not found, so i assume I have to build qte with x11 support which i'm not sure is possible |
| 22:18.01 | dan2003 | cannot see the option anyway |
| 22:20.33 | dan2003 | the oother optin is to use qvfb but i cannot get my app to build opie and wt setup in this way, i get a weird error, /home/dan/stuff/opie/opie/include/qpe/qpeapplication.h:217: error: 'class QWidget' has no member named 'qwsDisplay' |
| 22:23.05 | ljp | whats wrong with qvfb? |
| 22:23.31 | ljp | opie is framebuffer only |
| 22:24.01 | ljp | dont need no stinkin' X |
| 22:26.00 | dan2003 | ok, i've been using an app i made and ran on a simpad, but my pad screen has failed and am despertly trying to get the app running on a PC, but i cannot get it to build, it dies with the weird message about qpeapplication.h I posted above, thats after i followed the howto for building a opie environ running in qvfb |
| 22:26.14 | dan2003 | and then trying to build my app using those includes and libs |
| 22:34.52 | CIA-11 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8ae04a59... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): gnome-doc-utils/gnome-desktop: Running scrollkeeper is pointless, disable. |
| 22:47.39 | CIA-11 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r0b31bda3... 10/ (11 files in 2 dirs): tasks: Remove strange (uneeded) syntax before it spreads any further |
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| 22:57.39 | kristoffer | RP, you awake? |
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| 23:01.53 | RP | kristoffer: yes |
| 23:04.01 | kristoffer | RP, Im setting up the pcmcia interface through the platform_device system. pata_platform works fine, but having issues with getting the pcmcia (and thus pcmcia net cards) working |
| 23:04.43 | kristoffer | The pcmcia seems to initialize properly, but I must be doing something wrong with the platform_device setup |
| 23:05.24 | RP | kristoffer: I really can't offer much advice based on that :/ |
| 23:06.24 | kristoffer | RP, I know man, hard to put it inside one question. I'll try to find some good examples |
| 23:07.46 | RP | kristoffer: Is this something PXA based? |
| 23:08.02 | kristoffer | RP, nah its for hp6xx, superh based |
| 23:09.09 | RP | kristoffer: hmm :/ |
| 23:09.44 | RP | rwhitby: The mokoslug image boots fine :). |
| 23:10.02 | kristoffer | RP, I'll drop paul a mail asking for some input |
| 23:10.36 | RP | kristoffer: Which paul is that? |
| 23:10.37 | kristoffer | RP, paul mundt, linuxsh maintainer |
| 23:10.54 | RP | right |
| 23:11.26 | RP | I wish I could help more. I don't know linuxsh at all though and only really the pxa bits of pcmcia... |
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