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00:18.23LaibschNAiL: Thank you for the hint.  I wonder why it was not build. I have restarted compilation.
00:19.50NAiLnp
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00:49.57jselectcould anyone suggest a program for displaying an image on the root of an x display?
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00:52.00meisterjselect, esetroot, feh
00:52.08meisterwmsetbg
00:52.17jselectthanks meister, I've looked at xloadimage, xwud, xsetroot, fbsetbg
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03:17.50jselectmeister: feh is pretty awesome
03:18.05jselectbeats xloadimage by a few seconds loading jpegs on a geode :)
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06:04.31CIA-1103mwester 07org.oe.dev * r1863c725... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
06:04.31CIA-11slugos-init: change find option -mount to -xdev in turnup (so that turnup
06:04.31CIA-11can work with either busybox find or with the full find utility).
06:04.35CIA-1103mwester 07org.oe.dev * r94f578be... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-slugos.bb): task-slugos: add kernel-module-loop to the rootfs (altboot support)
06:04.39CIA-1103mwester 07org.oe.dev * r62a6cd17... 10/ (1 packages/busybox/busybox-1.2.1/slugos/defconfig):
06:04.39CIA-11busybox: SlugOS defconfig - enable mount/umount (for altboot), disable ext2/3
06:04.39CIA-11utilities (not necessary), enable dos2unix and unix2dos applets.
06:04.44CIA-1103mwester 07org.oe.dev * r50afe372... 10/ (25 files in 7 dirs):
06:04.44CIA-11busybox: update to 1.5.0 (preference set to -1 so as not to disturb until
06:04.44CIA-11this possibly-unstable release is more thoroughly tested).
06:05.19koengood morning all
06:06.27mwesterSalutations.
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06:10.12koen~lart hal 0.5.9 for probe-input.c:74: error: 'SW_LID' undeclared (first use in this function)
06:10.13ibotwhips out a sword and chops hal 0.5.9 in half for probe-input.c:74: error: 'SW_LID' undeclared (first use in this function)
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06:17.59Laibschgood morning.  My bitbake still fails with "/bin/sh: arm-linux-ar: not found".  I did "bitbake binutils binutils-cross" as NAil suggested that these packages would contain arm-linux-ar.  Still no go.  spitz/.dev/angstrom-oabi.
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07:50.13XorAmorning
07:51.51koen|labaargh
07:51.58koen|labthe license server of this crap is flakey
07:52.09koen|lab~kill Tanner EDA
07:52.13ibotACTION shoots a excited fluxquark gun at Tanner EDA
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07:53.45XorA:-D
07:54.33koen|labhey XorA
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07:56.28CIA-1103xora 07org.oe.dev * r71681d3f... 10/ (15 files in 3 dirs):
07:56.28CIA-11linux-smdk2443_2.6.20+git.bb : add a kernel for the smdk2443 board from
07:56.28CIA-11samsung.
08:03.51koen|labXorA: 2443 is armv5?
08:05.18XorAkoen|lab: no
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08:06.27XorAkoen|lab: why?
08:06.35koen|labjust wondering
08:06.46koen|labit does seems to have usb2 and 533MHz
08:07.06XorAit has both of those, but still arm920
08:07.12CIA-1103xora 07org.oe.dev * r9825e252... 10/ (1 conf/machine/smdk2443.conf): smdk2443.conf : machine conf for smdk2443
08:07.20XorAs3c6400 series is arm11 though :-)
08:08.50koen|labvfp!
08:09.46RPmorning all
08:09.53pH5good morning
08:10.02XorAyo RP pH5
08:10.57robtaylorsup y'all
08:10.57koen|labhey RP & pH5
08:11.19RPzecke: I still think that patch is too complex
08:12.07zeckeRP: okay, at least as band-aid it should do now
08:12.23koen|labrobtaylor: hal 0.5.9 doesn't compile
08:12.23RPzecke: But it didn't work with bitbake 1.8?
08:12.39koen|lab~lart hal 0.5.9 for probe-input.c:74: error: 'SW_LID' undeclared (first use in this function)
08:12.39ibothereby declares hal 0.5.9 a troll for probe-input.c:74: error: 'SW_LID' undeclared (first use in this function)
08:12.41zeckeRP: Problem: We can't rely on any sha tool being installed, building coreutils is not an option so I create oe_shasum
08:12.54zeckeRP: yes, for some reason I see quilt-do-fetch before oe_shasum is statged
08:13.28RPzecke: I'm fine with that, I'm just not sure about the base.bbclass changes
08:13.46RPzecke: Which version of bitbake 1,8 - was it 1.8.0 or svn?
08:14.11zeckeRP: BitBake 1.8 branches
08:14.38RPzecke: and you're svn'd up?
08:15.03zeckeRP: I did an initial checkout
08:16.39robtaylorkoen|lab: ah, your kernel headers are too old
08:17.04koen|labrobtaylor: why doesn't configure detect that?
08:17.19koen|lab(I have 2.15.99 linux-libc-headers)
08:17.26robtaylorkoen|lab: it should, but david put out 0.5.9 before i could fix it
08:17.39koen|labRP: are the updated headers from Poky safe to use for EABI?
08:18.35robtaylorkoen|lab: hal needs 2.6.18 or greater
08:19.09RPkoen|lab: They're working ok for us...
08:19.16zeckeRP: I think I have some typo in the [depend] = code, so it would be appreciated if you could look into it
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08:20.03zeckeRP: Now to the issue. We need to add shasum-native at the root of the dependency treee
08:20.18zeckeRP: it shasum-native itself musn't depend on anything (e.g. not quilt-native)
08:21.40RPzecke: The syntax looks right to me...
08:23.05zeckehmm
08:23.19zeckeRP: I can verify it again, but my machine is currently occupied by another OS :}
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08:23.57RPzecke: You could try the output from bitbake something -g and see if shasum-native is listed at all...
08:24.58zeckeRP: as to the simplification. The DEPENDS = "" change is necessary
08:25.18zeckeRP: and to avoid circular deps shasum musn't depend on PATCHTOOL
08:26.04RPzecke: I understand, its tricky :/
08:30.10zeckeRP: Admitingly my primary goal was to make it work to stop the sheaps from falling into the blackhole :)
08:30.40zeckeRP: a) we could completely hardcode a shasum-native case
08:31.00zeckeif PN == "shasum-native": return "" else: deps = "shasum-native" ... old code
08:32.24RPzecke: This code isn't going to last long anyway so lets just do that?
08:33.07zeckeRP: why do you think it won't last long? We will remove it as we will require 1.8 but when are we going to require 1.8?
08:33.21RPzecke: Within two months ;-)
08:43.51RPzecke: I didn't realise it was committed. I'll try and run some tests with bb-1.8
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08:48.32zeckeRP: I did
08:56.50CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * rcea60e66... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linux-libc-headers: add 2.6.20 from Poky
08:57.30koen|labRP: has someone set a date yet for requiring bitbake 1.8?
08:57.40koen|lab"two months" is awfully vague
08:57.59XorA01/01/06
08:58.38RPWe still need to release bitbake 1.8.2 yet but yes, around then
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08:59.12RPI will raise a discussion of exactly what the aims of .dev are to...
09:00.21koen|laband what people would want in a stable branch
09:00.51koen|labI suspect people want 'less csets' instead of 'better regression testing' most of the times
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09:05.20koen|labrobtaylor: and 0.5.9 require autoconf >2.59....
09:05.27koen|lab(2.6x doesn't build in OE for me)
09:06.09robtaylorkoen|lab: yep
09:06.39robtaylorkoen|lab: well you'll have problems with hal, as its never worked with 2.4
09:06.51robtaylorand never will, and is totally predicated on 2.6
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09:09.22koen|lab2.4?
09:09.32koen|labI have kernel 2.4 devices?
09:09.34koen|labwhere?
09:11.44XorA~lart ipkg
09:11.44ibotgives ipkg a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades"
09:12.50CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * rc5f3f559... 10/ (1 packages/hal/hal-info_git.bb packages/hal/hal_0.5.9.bb):
09:12.50CIA-11hal: add 0.5.9 and hal-info_git from poky
09:12.50CIA-11* has a hack to work around autofoo >2.59 dep
09:12.50CIA-11* requires linux-libc-headers >= 2.6.18
09:13.51XorAas we are rapidly deteriorating out metadata with hacks
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09:34.56koen|labXorA: mail sent about autofoo hacks
09:36.53XorAkoen|lab: see it
09:37.01robtaylorkoen|lab: oh, i misparsed your statment
09:37.13CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * re0643d7e... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk-gpephone.bb): task-sdk-gpephone: New
09:37.16robtaylorkoen|lab: hmm, it should be >= 2.59
09:37.19CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * rd92d9487... 10/ (1 packages/meta/meta-sdk-sbox.bb): meta-sdk-sbox: Add G(PE)^2 dependencies as well.
09:37.58koen|labrobtaylor: 2.59*c*
09:38.05koen|labwhich is >2.59
09:40.47robtaylorahh
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09:45.30hrwmorning
09:45.53pH5hi hrw
09:47.02CIA-1103rpurdie 07bitbake-1.8 * r811 10/lib/bb/build.py: build.py: Add missing intertask dependency code
09:47.14RPzecke: This would be why it wasn't working ;-)
09:47.32RPOne line missing...
09:47.44zecke:)
09:47.51zeckeRP: where is the commit to trunk?
09:48.02RPzecke: Its in trunk, it was just missed out the backport ;-)
09:48.10zecke:)
09:48.46XorAhey hrw
09:49.51RPzecke: Just tested and the -g output looks better now, it will work as intended
09:50.04zeckegood to know that -g works (again)
09:50.43RPzecke: You should have a look at the task-depends.dot file - very useful and you'll see why we need to sort the dependencies :/
09:51.06zeckewe should sell posters :)
09:51.31zeckeor how to build your distribution by hand :)
09:51.52RPAll 2,300 steps :)
09:52.48koen|lab"Why not to use buildroot: <svg of 2k+ steps>"
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09:55.13koen|labzecke: with tapas and beer
09:55.39koen|labzecke: http://blogs.gnome.org/view/uraeus/2007/04/02/0
09:56.16zeckekoen|lab: I read that
09:56.42zeckekoen|lab: but still if you have a a method to parse the SenderReport and this method is not used at all this is a bad sign :)
09:57.07koen|labso they had too much beer :)
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10:16.05XorAhow do you unexport in a .bb?
10:16.26XorAspecifically I dont want ${datadir} to be exported
10:16.59zeckeXorA: delVarFlag :}
10:17.11zeckeXorA: or do_foo_prepend() { unexport foo }
10:17.55XorAunexport datadir isnt liked
10:18.22XorAmainly as I dont have an unexport command in shell
10:18.31zeckebash has one
10:18.52zeckeunset
10:19.33XorAzecke: ahah cheerrs unset was what my brain failed to remeber
10:19.57zeckeunset BRIAN
10:20.03zeckeBRAIN even :)
10:20.19XorAzecke: heh heh, coffee time
10:22.49CIA-1103pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r85f4d68d... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf):
10:22.49CIA-11bitbake.conf: "wifi" was treated as COMBINED_FEATURE for some time now, but wasn't
10:22.49CIA-11actually computed as such.
10:26.09CIA-1103pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r615a88e1... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: Bump PR so people get wifi feature handling fixes.
10:26.35zeckekoen|away: I have 91% to go as well
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10:34.06koen|labfinally
10:34.08koen|lablunch time
10:34.43koen|labor rather, time to eat breakfast
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10:57.46pH5task-distro-wifi-rdepends depends on the wifi COMBINED_FEATURE - does this mean that the zaurus machines, which don't have internal wifi, won't get wireless-tools and wpa-supplicant?
10:58.00pH5Also, I think task-base-pcmcia-rdepends / task-base-pcmcia2[46]-rrecommends should only include cf wifi drivers / utils if the machine does not have the (internal) wifi MACHINE_FEATURE. The same for hostap-utils in task-distro-wifi-rdepends.
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11:02.09CIA-11packages/gpe-aerial/gpe-aerial_svn.bb
11:02.09CIA-11* add svn build for gpe-aerial
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11:11.19koen|lab"I'm trying to compile a 2.4.20 kernel by using an optimized gcc 3.4.5"
11:11.46XorAkoen|lab: -O7 ?
11:17.38hrwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0ahfEufHAw
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11:24.24Croftonhrw, do you know who submitted OSK bug reports?
11:25.26koen|lab"sledgehammer approach" comes to mind
11:25.40koen|lab"one package is missing a dep, so lets add it to the distro instead"
11:26.44hrwno
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11:28.39CIA-1103rpurdie * r812 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): build.py: Expand dependency flag data
11:29.02CIA-1103xora 07org.oe.dev * r1415a4bb... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
11:29.02CIA-11aspell-native_0.60.5.bb, aspell6-en_6.0-0.bb, aspell_0.60.5.bb : some
11:29.02CIA-11speeling cheecker (spelling checker) updates. Moved to latest version
11:29.03CIA-11of aspell and dictionaries.
11:29.06CIA-1103xora 07org.oe.dev * r0fd063b1... 10/ (1 packages/enchant/enchant_1.3.0.bb): enchant_1.3.0.bb : add newest version on enchant spelling checker interface.
11:29.10CIA-1103xora 07org.oe.dev * rb5facee8... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs):
11:29.11CIA-11aspell-native_0.50.5.bb, aspell5-en_6.0-0.bb, aspell_0.50.5.bb : remove old
11:29.11CIA-11versions
11:30.16hrwXorA: looks like I would need to check aspell-pl
11:30.45XorAhrw: well if you had checked it in I would have looked
11:31.15Croftonhrw, I can't look at them until later this week.
11:31.23CroftonHe used the celinux distro
11:31.41CroftonI will update and start an angstrom on OSK build today
11:31.48XorAhrw: pl has aspell6 version so should work fine
11:33.23koen|labCrofton: can openomap* be dropped from OE?
11:33.43Croftonsoon :)
11:34.31CroftonThe answer is most likely yes, but I have to much other work at the moment and I want to do a little more testing
11:35.43hrwXorA: it is in OE
11:38.08koen|labRP, hrw: you want the next cset in poky as well
11:38.36CIA-1103koen 07org.oe.dev * rcb49865a... 10/ (1 packages/hal/hal-info_git.bb): hal-info: this isn't architecture specific
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11:40.03philippeanybody sees issues with this? http://www.pastebin.ca/422316
11:40.37koen|labphilippe: yes
11:40.59philippekoen|lab: I kind of expected it so this is why I ask.
11:41.16koen|labphilippe: libmimedir is in gpe-svn now, so that one should be used
11:41.38koen|labthat has a shitload more bugfixes
11:41.42philippeI know. And this is correct for the libmimedir_svn build
11:42.33philippeBut as this is a version with a fixed SRCDATE I thought using the gnome svn (which is where the old cvs stuff has moved too)
11:42.51philippekoen|lab: and your proposal got rejected?
11:43.03koen|labs/d/s/
11:43.05XorAhrw: I may be being totally blind, but I cant see it
11:43.22koen|labhttp://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/1e22673f726ae7c92e41b03114e3da3c.png <- somebody should learn that hardcoding qvga is bad
11:43.36hrwXorA: shit.. so I have to dig for it
11:43.54philippekoen|lab: well mtn drop -e libmimedir_cvs.bb is definitely in order.
11:44.00hrwXorA: found. it is but in .ox354x
11:44.15philippeSo anybody has issues with koens proposal?
11:44.38XorAhrw: I could add a aspell6-pl and you could check it
11:44.44koen|labphilippe: the point is moot anyway, since gpe will never release stuff depending on libmimedir.....
11:45.37philippekoen|lab: gpe-contacts still seems to depend on it
11:45.51philippeand the sync stuff too AFAIK
11:46.17koen|labphilippe: for how long have I been asking for new releases?
11:46.24koen|labphilippe: a few months now
11:47.11philippekoen|lab: this is why I am making svn recipes. So you can ignore the bloody releases if you want too :-)
11:48.15philippekoen|lab: :-)
11:48.44koen|labI seriously think 'development' would be pushed forward with gpe showing it isn't dead
11:49.05koen|labchecking svn is to hard for 99% of the people
11:50.39philippekoen|lab: I agree there. But I am not maintainer for those components. having distro builds with svn code might force updates.
11:50.46philippeand releases
11:53.44koen|labheh
11:53.55koen|labmaemo has had svn builds for some time now
11:54.02koen|labif anything they delay releases
11:54.46CIA-1103xora 07org.oe.dev * r5a685e5a... 10/ (1 packages/aspell/aspell6-pl_6.0-20061121-0.bb): aspell6-pl_6.0-20061121-0.bb : .pl aspell dictionary
11:55.06hrwthx XorA
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11:55.36do13_morning all
11:57.37philippekoen|lab: maemo is mostly useless to build anyway :-)
11:58.13philippeno images can be build
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12:10.14koen|labhey mickeyl
12:10.22mickeylmornign koen
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12:11.12koen|lab"The DPM project results from a collaboration between the IBM Austin Research Lab and MontaVista Software."
12:12.00CIA-1103philippe 07org.oe.dev * r36aafe8b... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
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12:12.06philippekoen|lab: http://source.mvista.com:14690//linuxppc_2_4_devel-pm
12:12.16philippeunder downloads :-)
12:13.29hrwphilippe: can you split commits per package next time?
12:13.30florianI wonder if it might be a good idea to do a "make clean" in ${S} after building a package.
12:13.43hrwflorian: bad
12:13.53florianhrw: why?
12:14.25hrwflorian: I like to keep tmp/work to be able to compare builds
12:14.31hrwflorian: it I want to have clean sources I do -cclean/-cpatch
12:14.47philippehrw: well these were related. But ok. I'll pay more attention to it next time
12:15.39florianhrw: it would save huge amounts of disk space - 90% of our users won't need that stuff anyway. so if we had a switch to turn on this behaviour i'm sure people would be quite happy.
12:15.59chouimat|awayI will ;)
12:16.09hrwflorian: let they inherit rm_work?
12:17.19XorAINHERIT += "rm_work" is a standard thing for me
12:17.56philippeflorian: you just need to add the INHERIT in your local.conf
12:19.14floriandoesn't that drop the whole work thing?
12:19.30florianwell ok, should be fine in most cases
12:19.59koen|labrm_work works fine over here
12:20.54hrwflorian: feel free to improve it
12:21.42koen|labit trades space for time
12:21.55koen|labif you notice a packaging error, you have to rebuild it again
12:22.47florianright...
12:23.24koen|labit does allow you to build in a ramdisk if you want :)
12:23.33florianhehe
12:24.48pH5actually, it doesn't work well with the new bitbake because of the fine-grained task dependencies. if only do_stage is depended upon, rm_work is never executed.
12:25.19pH5but building on a ramdisk is certainly a time-saver, especially on slow notebooks.
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13:29.00apaulsengpe-login is using "install -s" and I'm getting an error that strip (native, not cross ??) is unsable to recognize the file.  Isn't stripping done separately with the cross-strip?
13:31.01koen|labyes
13:31.16koen|labapps should not do install -s, that breaks creation of debugging packages
13:36.41apaulsenkoen|lab: looks like we need to patch the gpe-login-0.88 makefile then, there are two "install -s" in there.
13:36.55koen|labright
13:41.08hrwgvim with two sql dumps is hard..
13:42.16apaulseninstall_strip.patch: http://www.pasteserver.net/844      gpe-login_0.88.bb patch: http://www.pasteserver.net/845
13:45.01hrwkoen|lab: we need pastebin.openembedded.org
13:51.20apaulsenhrw: http://openembedded.pasteserver.net/ ?
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13:56.06hrwapaulsen: no. pastebin on our server
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14:00.30koen|lab*sigh*
14:00.39koen|labT-spice is using 11% cpu while simulating
14:01.31koen|lab(c) 83 - 88 could be a sign that it isn't optimized for recent CPUs...
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14:46.35slapin_nbhi, all!
14:46.39slapin_nbRP, ping
14:47.59RPslapin_nb: pong
14:48.26slapin_nbRP, do you know a way on how to profile bitbake on memory cinsumption?
14:48.44slapin_nbs/cinsumption/consumption
14:49.21RPslapin_nb: I've just watched the stats in top in the past. You could use exmap...
14:49.58RPslapin_nb: projects.o-hand.com/exmap-console
14:50.07slapin_nbRP, I want to see in more detail, pre function or something. I want to optimize it a bit
14:50.31RPslapin_nb: Memory usage in bitbake is ok, isn't it?
14:50.38slapin_nbRP, I know about this tool, but it has nothing to do with what I need.
14:50.50slapin_nbRP, it is not OK for my specific purpose.
14:51.30RPslapin_nb: I'm not a python guru and I don't know what tools if any can look at memory per function
14:51.52slapin_nbRP, I want it to run in ideal solution, to consume not more than 128Mb of memory even if it causes slowdown.
14:52.03slapin_nbRP, sorry, thanks!
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14:52.21RPslapin_nb: It shouldn't be using 128MB? Which version is that?
14:53.04slapin_nbRP, 1.8
14:54.13RPslapin_nb: 62MB maximum aginst poky. I guess OE.dev will be more
14:54.37zeckeslapin_nb: VSize of 128MB? how many pages are used?
14:54.39slapin_nbRP, because in my syntethic circumstances memory is strictly limited, and I'd like for bitbake -D -n angstrom-x11-image to succeed in this circumstances.
14:55.24slapin_nbzecke, 32768
14:57.19RPslapin_nb: I guess the fork in 1.8 is a nighmare in that scenario?
14:58.30zecke4k pages?
14:58.44slapin_nbzecke, yes
14:58.59slapin_nbRP, probably
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15:22.12hrwcu
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15:24.34XorAahah, trying to not run x86_64 binaries in i686 mode works much better
15:29.20slapin_nbRP, so idea is to eleminate fork, then? Any place in addition to look for memory optimizations?
15:30.37zeckeslapin_nb: google for python and memory profiling and then profile?
15:30.57RPslapin_nb: You might need to. I don't think we can accept removal of the fork into trunk though
15:31.29slapin_nbzecke, I already searched, and found it is not that simple.
15:31.55slapin_nbRP, I think special mode could suffice.
15:32.13slapin_nbRP, I think I'll do that in some acceptable way.
15:32.45RPslapin_nb: Keep in mind we've done this with a reason - to support a UI and multithreading in due course
15:33.12zeckeRP: this report and the OOM bug entry make me worry if we should make 1.8 BB_MIN_VERSION :}
15:33.32slapin_nbRP, I think another command-line optionw won't harm.
15:33.46RPzecke: The OOM bug I think was bad metadata and if so would probably hit 1.6 too
15:33.55RPslapin_nb: In which case you didn't read what I said
15:34.16RPWell, you might have read it but you didn't think about or understand it :-(
15:35.27slapin_nbRP, I read, and I talk about special executing mode, when I want to produce list of .bbs and tasks which needed to be executed, which should be done with <128Mb memory footprint. That's my idea.
15:36.24slapin_nbRP, so It won't interfere with normal functionality. I'd also like to probably make it into a class, if that's possible in current architecture.
15:37.03RPslapin_nb: You might as well parse the output from "bitbake -g" in the task-depends.dot file
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15:39.04mr_nicehi all
15:39.26slapin_nbRP, is bitbake -g consumes less memory than -n ?
15:39.38zeckeslapin_nb: profile?
15:40.07RPslapin_nb: Probably not but it won't fork and will give you the list you want
15:41.09slapin_nbzecke, profiling of python apps is not that easy as C ones. as  for overall use cases, these both give me OOM, but in a different fashion.
15:41.51slapin_nbRP, thanks, I'll look into -g mode, probably I will just add something to produce .txt
15:41.53zeckeslapin_nb: wow, my google.com found three interesting approaches...
15:42.28slapin_nbzecke, share?
15:42.44RPslapin_nb: ok, I give up ;-)
15:42.46zeckeslapin_nb: google is available to everyone
15:43.07slapin_nbzecke, I tried several already, otherwise I never ask.
15:43.51slapin_nbzecke, I really believe you have better Google lore than me.
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16:12.02CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * r08dc7708... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/libgemwidget_0.1.bb): libgemwidget: update dependencies
16:12.06CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * ra46acee6... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk-gpephone.bb): task-sdk-gpephone: Fix some names
16:12.10CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * r4420d8a7... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk.bb): task-sdk: Fix some names I guessed wrong to make it buildable.
16:12.15CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * r77f6efff... 10/ (1 conf/machine/netvista.conf): netvista.conf: Update to more modern standards and kernel 2.6
16:12.19CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * r6c919818... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-netvista: remove old kernel
16:12.25CIA-1103florian 07org.oe.dev * r97edb3a7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-x86: Add Netvista 8365 defconfig
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16:38.28zeckewill be back in 40 min
16:43.29slapin_nbbtw, is anoncvs.gnome org fixed everywhere? is libmimedir non-fetchable yesterday's news?
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16:55.14mrdatahi all
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17:11.30mrdatamr_nice: hi
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17:28.23slapin_nbis it possible to use rsync mirror for files?
17:31.22geekoidHi all, trying to build a spitz image of gpe but teleport keeps breaking: http://paste2.org/p/2289. Why all of the syntax errors? I'm building on Ubuntu Edgy and have removed dash..
17:39.30Crofton|laptophmm, uboot 1.2 is out
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17:45.04hvontres|poodlegeekoid: it looks like it can't find  X11/Xlib.h
17:46.17philippeslapin_nb: libmimedir has been fixed earlier today
17:46.44slapin_nbphilippe, thanks a lot!
17:47.29philippegeekoid: I had issues where the files would get deleted by the build of some X related package
17:48.30philippegeekoid: to fix it you need to rebuild libx11 if I remember correctly
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18:04.58geekoid@phillippe: Thanks, would a simple "bitbake libx11 && bitbake gpe-image" work?
18:06.22hvontres|poodlegeekoid: you might need to force libx11 to rebuild with bitbake -c rebuild libx11, otherwise that should work
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18:11.28geekoidphillippe: looks like -c rebuild is required. Thanks.. crossing fingers once again ;)
18:11.29geekoidoops, thanks hvontres..
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18:15.52CroftonI am hating meetings
18:16.04Croftonanyone added u-boot-1.2 to OE?
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18:21.04slapin_nb!oebug 2079
18:21.04cdbot2* * Bug 2079, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-03 11:26
18:21.04cdbot2* * slapinid(AT)gmail.com: QA errors, build failure.
18:21.04cdbot2* * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2079
18:21.05slapin_nbany ideas?
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18:21.36slapin_nbpackage is aspell_0.60.5.bb
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18:29.02Croftonspeaking of package versions, I think there are issues in u-boot
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18:48.29CIA-1103philippe 07org.oe.dev * r69383169... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
18:48.29CIA-11packages/gpe-today/gpe-today_cvs.bb
18:48.29CIA-11* drop obsolete version
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18:48.29CIA-11* up-to-date svn version to replace obsolete cvs .bb
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20:11.04Croftonkoen|away, ping
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20:17.07woglindehm which modules do I need to get compact flash working via pcmcia?
20:17.08Crofton__on what?
20:17.08woglindesimpad
20:17.08woglindepccardctl works
20:17.08hvontres|poodlewoglinde: I think you need ide_cs
20:17.11woglindehvontres ah okay
20:17.11Crofton__http://pastebin.ca/422931
20:17.17Crofton__is what I have loaded on the OSK
20:17.48woglindethank you
20:17.55Croftonand, I must go now, good luck
20:19.56hrwmorning
20:21.19chouimathi hrw
20:26.58woglindehi hrw
20:27.53mr_nicewoglinde: hi
20:28.05woglindehi mr_nice
20:30.44mr_nicewoglinde: nice to read that you are on simpad testing :)
20:31.26woglindehehe
20:31.36woglindemy toshiba cf is working now
20:32.09mr_nicewoglinde: with ide_cs? I will then add it to the default config
20:32.45woglindehehe okay
20:32.50woglindevfat is missing
20:33.15mr_nicewoglinde: btw. there is now a #opensimpad.org channel ;)
20:33.33woglindehm
20:33.34woglindehehe
20:34.53mr_nicewoglined: I was not able to resist making advertising for it *g
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20:38.23woglindeoh no
20:38.39woglindedont work
20:38.46woglindedamnit
20:39.09woglindeoh
20:39.12woglindeit works
20:39.16woglindebut painfull slow
20:40.20Crofton|homehrw, I added new u-boot to oe, and marked the git tag so it does not build by default
20:43.00hrwCrofton|home: which ver of uboot you recommend for osk?
20:43.19Crofton|homewell, someone had trouble building the git tag
20:43.30Crofton|homeand there are more recent tarballs
20:43.46Crofton|homeI had been running 1.1.6 on mine, and I 1.2.0 did work
20:44.00Crofton|homealthough I do not think there are any OSK specific changes in that version
20:44.12Crofton|homebasically, I would run 1.2.0
20:44.43hrwso I will mark celinux-test as 1.1.6
20:45.15Crofton|homeheh
20:45.30Crofton|homeThey are conservative :)
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20:46.07hrwthey are
20:46.21hrwyou know: if it works, don't fix it
20:46.21Crofton|homeI am concerned by the intersection of my work and facebook
20:46.33Crofton|homehttp://developers.facebook.com/thrift/
20:46.36Crofton|homeyeah
20:46.40Crofton|homeI understand that
20:47.10Crofton|homeI think the version code built the _LABEL u-boot over the tarball based version
20:47.20Crofton|homeand that is not good, so I think I fixed it
20:47.56Crofton|homeDid you see the uimage "buf" that was psted about the OSK?
20:48.05hrwyes
20:48.19Crofton|homeI need to go through the process and see if it works
20:48.38Crofton|homeI was concerned the reporter said the recipe does not work, becuase it does make a bootable kernel
20:48.56Crofton|homeI am not sure if th kernel uimage target really makes somethign that bots on the OSK
20:49.38Crofton|homemickey|bbl, ping?
20:51.03meisterhow can i change my keymap in console mode ?
20:56.08kristoffermeister, loadkeys?
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20:57.28meisterkristoffer, ok
20:57.59meisterkristoffer, do you know where is located the file of my current keymap ?
20:59.00kristoffermeister, not atm
20:59.12kristofferfind | grep .map ?
20:59.32kristoffersomewhere under /usr/share I would expect
20:59.58hrw<PROTECTED>
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21:01.57kristofferlol, thought you were asking for you main machine :D
21:02.17meisterkristoffer, for my netbook pro :)
21:02.21kristofferhehe
21:02.36meisteri've got an azerty keyboard on it
21:02.55meisterso it a little boring to use it ;)
21:03.00meister+is
21:03.03kristoffer:) never tried one of those
21:03.41meistervery nice device but very slow display
21:04.06meisterand i've got only 24mo to run familiar on flash
21:04.22meisteri wonder it it is a good idea to run it on a cf or sd
21:05.13meister/a/of
21:06.20hvontres|poodlemeister: you might want to check with koen, since I think he also has a netbook pro he's playing with
21:06.58meisterflorian too
21:07.12meisterhe helps me to install linux on it
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21:16.11T0mWIs there anyone here familiar with threads on Linux?  I keep getting this odd error from glibc-2.5 configure: "configure: error: compiler support for __thread is required"
21:16.20T0mWI am building with gcc-3.4.4
21:16.36T0mWDo I need to do this with gcc-4.x ?
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21:16.53hrwT0mW: you lack NTPL
21:17.04T0mWhrw: yeah, I have 2.4.21 kernel...
21:17.14hrwT0mW: look how it is done in angstrom configuration
21:17.19hrwT0mW: zipit?
21:17.20T0mWthanks
21:17.27T0mWyes, zipit
21:17.31hrwT0mW: angstrom-legacy will be for you
21:17.36T0mWok
21:18.06T0mWAlmost got this thing done, except for the additional packages (bells & whistles)
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21:23.39Crofton~zipit
21:23.43ibotfrom memory, zipit is a portable, embedded Linux based, wifi IM device. Currently not in compliance with the GPL. See http://www.zipitwireless.com/ or a file compression tool typically used in the macintosh world, or http://eLinux.org/wiki/ZipIt
21:24.26Croftonintersting
21:24.35Croftonno 2.6 kernel?
21:26.35hrwhttp://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/04/03/blog-moved/
21:26.42T0mWCrofton: naw, aeronix (manufacturer) would not release the wifi kernel module source so we are stuck at 2.4
21:27.28T0mWCrofton: it uses some proprietary agere chipset for the wife
21:27.35T0mWs/wife/wifi
21:27.47CroftonIf I run into anyone from Aeronix, I'll complian
21:27.57Croftonfreudian slip there
21:28.05cbrakedoes anyone know offhand what I'm doing wrong to get this:
21:28.09cbrakeudev requires hotplug support, not started.
21:28.22T0mWcbrake: what kernel?
21:28.27cbrakeT0mW: 2.6.20
21:28.32T0mWnm
21:28.46cbrakeT0mW: never saw it with 2.6.16, but I may have something wrong in the kernel config.
21:29.47T0mWdunno what option that would be offhand, you may be correct.
21:30.14hrwcbrake: CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
21:30.33T0mWdoh
21:30.58cbrakehrw: CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y is set in my config, but for some reason there is not /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug directory.
21:31.10hrwcbrake: and /proc is mounted?
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21:33.43cbrakehrw: yes, proc is mounted.  I see /proc/sys/kernel/hostname, but not /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug
21:33.52hrw;(
21:35.27cbrakehrw: I've read that /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is obsolete -- is anyone else running 2.6.20 w/ the current version of udev in OE?
21:36.05hrwcbrake: I have 2.6.20 on c7x0
21:36.16hrwmoment..
21:36.44hrwand have /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug there
21:37.00cbrakehrw: ok, I'll grok the kernel config a little more then -- thanks for checking
21:37.17hrwcbrake: it has 2.6.20 linux-rp
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21:37.50cbrakehrw: ok, i'll check it out
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21:42.34hrwhttp://vernier.com/labquest/video.html
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21:53.39hrwcu
21:55.07cbrakeargh, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug is gated with "#if defined(CONFIG_HOTPLUG) && defined(CONFIG_NET)
21:55.10cbrakein 2.6.20
21:55.19cbrakeguess I better enable networking ...
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22:06.27woglindejesus has gpe-image a lot of dependencies
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22:14.25CoreDump|homehi
22:16.09hvontres|poodlechouimat|away: how's the horse? :)
22:16.32chouimat|awayhvontres|poodle: never figured how to make it work ;)
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22:35.15Croftonmickey|bbl, ping?
22:35.32mickey|bblya
22:35.47Croftondid you see the "middleware" from facebook ?
22:36.03mickey|bblno, what's that?
22:36.49Croftonhttp://developers.facebook.com/thrift/
22:37.02Croftonthey swear it isn't an April fools
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22:37.25mickey|bblwoo - interesting stuff
22:37.31Croftonyeah
22:37.33mickey|bbli'll take a look at that, thanks for the pointer!
22:37.37Croftonyet another middleware :)
22:37.40mickey|bblhehe
22:37.46mickey|bblthis term is just so overused lately
22:37.48CIA-1103coredump2 07org.oe.dev * red8e2ec8... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
22:37.48CIA-11:
22:37.48CIA-11ttyrec: Add ttyrec, a tty recorder
22:37.50Croftonyeah
22:38.01CIA-1103coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r6bfdd923... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
22:38.01CIA-11altboot: Add SVNR30 snapshot
22:38.02CIA-11- Fix Neo1973 Menu options (except NFS)
22:38.02CIA-11- Enable Neo1973 menu-navigation for /sbin/altboot
22:38.02CIA-11- Add generic work-around for busybox ps
22:38.03CIA-11- Fix /bin/sh boot on NSLU2
22:38.03CIA-11- Do no longer package emtpy "Advanced" directory
22:38.20mickey|bblg'night cu
22:38.24Croftongood night
22:38.27woglindenite mickeyl
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