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| 02:05.42 | jselect | hmm |
| 03:05.11 | rwhitby | Henryk: ping |
| 03:05.24 | Henryk | ah, hi rwhitby |
| 03:05.47 | Henryk | I'm answering your mail at this moment :) |
| 03:05.55 | rwhitby | cool. :-) |
| 03:06.45 | rwhitby | Henryk: when do you think we'll be able to move mokomakefile users to the 1.8 branch? |
| 03:07.49 | Henryk | I'm not sure. Does it build at all with 1.8? I think I remember having heard something about 1.8 needing a relatively current openembedded with task dependency information? |
| 03:08.19 | rwhitby | I haven't tried 1.8 yet - I'm still building all my OE distros with the 1.6 branch. |
| 03:08.31 | NAbyss | Henryk: IIRC, the dependency's the other way around.. the proposed dependency changes would require 1.8.2 minimum |
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| 03:08.55 | rwhitby | I can test 1.8 on nslu2-linux first (I should do that ASAP). |
| 03:08.57 | Henryk | NAbyss: yes, that's the other thing from two days ago or so |
| 03:09.25 | rwhitby | I've been waiting for the svnnow patches to be forward ported to 1.8 before trying it out on openmoko. |
| 03:09.38 | Henryk | rwhitby: we'll (hmm, I think that is: mickey :) have to look into 1.8 anyway because my new remote revision code will be 1.8 based |
| 03:10.59 | rwhitby | Henryk: ok. Let me know when it's time to change mokomakefile. (if anon svn access was working on projects.openmoko.org, I'd offer to give you write access) |
| 03:11.09 | Henryk | hmm, I have the functionality working for 1.8 (even in a somewhat clean manner), but performance is gonna suck, currently. 1.8 does fork() for different tasks, so I can't easily have cached results |
| 03:12.37 | rwhitby | yeah, read that in the backlog. |
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| 04:38.45 | Henryk | rwhitby: how about adding a make flash target to mokomakefile (with flash-uboot, flash-kernel and flash-rootfs subtargets) |
| 04:39.14 | rwhitby | using dfu-util? |
| 04:39.21 | Zero_Chaos | let's presume that sha256sum isn't in my distro's coreutils.... anyone know where I can grab sources for just sha*sum? |
| 04:39.41 | Henryk | rwhitby: yes |
| 04:40.09 | rwhitby | Henryk: sounds great. want to send me a patch? ;-) |
| 04:40.41 | rwhitby | (i.e. do you have an implementation already, or is it just an idea at the moment) |
| 04:41.06 | Henryk | just an idea, because I'm kind of lazy and don't always want to look up the exact commands in the wiki |
| 04:42.08 | rwhitby | laziness is what MokoMakefile is designed for :-) |
| 04:42.20 | rwhitby | (and to stop typo errors when flashing :-) |
| 04:43.19 | Henryk | whoah. "More than one DFU capable USB device found, you might try `--list' and then disconnect all but one device" |
| 04:43.39 | Henryk | interesting. my bluetooth dongle wants to do DFU ... |
| 04:47.35 | rwhitby | yeah, so does mine. |
| 04:47.53 | rwhitby | another reason to put it in the makefile :-) |
| 04:48.34 | Henryk | indeed. forgetting to connect the neo while having bluetooth on might do interesting things ... |
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| 05:54.13 | koen | good morning all |
| 05:55.53 | rwhitby | koen: how do we modify matchbox_0.9.1.bb somehow so that it rdepends on either matchbox-panel or matchbox-panel-2? |
| 05:56.36 | rwhitby | at the moment, I get a conflict in the OM image (built from OM SVN and OE head) |
| 05:56.59 | rwhitby | I think I saw you and RP discussing it in the backlog. Was a decision reached? |
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| 05:58.25 | koen | rwhitby: After I went to bed I came up with an easy solution |
| 05:58.42 | koen | do_install_append() { mv matchbox-panel matchbox-panel-2} |
| 05:58.43 | rwhitby | cool |
| 05:59.03 | koen | and edit the openmoko session file |
| 05:59.37 | Henryk | how is that a solution? |
| 06:00.07 | koen | mb-panel and mb-panel-2 aren't comparable |
| 06:00.15 | koen | so don't make them conflict |
| 06:00.46 | koen | and the 'matchbox' meta package is bogus AFAIK |
| 06:01.21 | Henryk | i think the solution would be to edit matchbox-common and let it depend on matchbox-panel-2 instead of matchbox-panel |
| 06:01.39 | Henryk | s/solution/intention/ |
| 06:01.39 | koen | no |
| 06:01.54 | koen | matchbox-<anything>-2 is unfinished crap right now |
| 06:02.09 | koen | I am NOT going to put all OE users through that |
| 06:02.22 | Henryk | hmm, ok. then remove/fix whatever depended on matchbox-panel-2 |
| 06:02.23 | koen | since they already have matchbox-common installed |
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| 06:23.55 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r27aca49b... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox2/matchbox-panel-2_svn.bb): matchbox-panel-2: solve all the madness by making it parallel installable with matchbox-panel-1 |
| 06:23.58 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdb900dbf... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox-panel/matchbox-panel_0.9.3.bb): matchbox-panel: bump PR |
| 06:24.04 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r19524f3e... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): openmoko-session: use matchbox-panel-2 instead of matchbox-panel |
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| 06:27.47 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * raa5818ff... 10/ (1 packages/matchbox-common/matchbox_0.9.1.bb): matchbox: bump PR |
| 06:27.54 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb4a8b6e0... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.67.bb): gpe-sesssion-scripts: bump PR |
| 06:28.52 | koen | there, that should have a clean upgrade path |
| 06:29.18 | koen | (on the assumption that ipkg behaves like the docs say) |
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| 06:38.43 | Bernardo | good morning |
| 06:39.21 | Bernardo | I'm having problems with perl-native (in dev), since yesterday evening |
| 06:39.37 | Bernardo | how do I tell monotone to get me the previous rev for a file? |
| 06:45.27 | Bernardo | oops (rtfm) |
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| 07:04.00 | koen | mickeyl: guten morgen |
| 07:04.06 | mickeyl | guten Morgen :)) |
| 07:04.11 | mickeyl | indeed it's too early for me :) |
| 07:04.16 | mickeyl | how are you? |
| 07:04.24 | koen|lab | mickeyl: way too early :) |
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| 07:15.53 | koen|lab | re |
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| 07:16.43 | koen|lab | mickeyl: did you have a productive weekend? |
| 07:17.05 | Ifaistos | Bernardo : What kind of problems ? |
| 07:17.54 | mickeyl | koen: yeah, it was great. although we didn't manage more than 60% of my (way too overloaded) agenda, we did a whole lot of things wrt. OE. |
| 07:17.56 | mickeyl | OM, even |
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| 07:18.39 | koen|lab | mickeyl: I think I solved the matchbox-panel-2 vs matchbox-panel-1 problems |
| 07:19.00 | koen|lab | mickeyl: could you sync openmok-session_svn.bb and matchbox-panel-2_svn.bb? |
| 07:19.09 | mickeyl | let me check |
| 07:19.13 | koen|lab | (and files/session) |
| 07:20.03 | zecke | mickeyl: hi :) |
| 07:20.32 | mickeyl | cheerio! |
| 07:20.39 | Bernardo|away | Ifaistos: can't build perl-native (claims make depend wasn't called) |
| 07:21.02 | zecke | Bernardo|away: do you have /bin/sh == dash? |
| 07:21.28 | Bernardo|away | zecke: probably - I had reverted in edgy, but upgrading to feisty probably reinstated it |
| 07:21.49 | zecke | Bernardo|away: it did for me and perl-native broke |
| 07:22.51 | mickeyl | to anyone who's interested |
| 07:23.06 | mickeyl | http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tkunze/zaurus/patches/ contains a supposedly working SD driver for Zaurus/Collie (2.6) |
| 07:23.09 | Bernardo|away | ok, it had dash again. I'll leave it building now, really have to run |
| 07:23.54 | koen|lab | mickeyl: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2007-April/000152.html :) |
| 07:24.26 | mickeyl | ah |
| 07:24.28 | mickeyl | i'm too late :) |
| 07:24.44 | koen|lab | marcins reply says it all: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2007-April/000153.html |
| 07:25.05 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 07:26.28 | zecke | hehe |
| 07:26.38 | zecke | koen|lab: can you compile the linux kernel with LLVM? |
| 07:26.55 | koen|lab | zecke: you should be able to |
| 07:27.02 | zecke | dynamically self optimizing paging routines :} |
| 07:27.27 | zecke | mickeyl: if you can take a step back, try to view PyPy and figure out how far they are |
| 07:27.35 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf5edc19d... 10/ (1 packages/esound/esound_0.2.36.bb): esound: bump PR |
| 07:27.35 | koen|lab | zecke, mickeyl: http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2007-April/008420.html |
| 07:28.16 | mickeyl | zecke: i'd like to , but not in the very short run... probably in two months |
| 07:28.34 | zecke | OMG EABI :) |
| 07:28.36 | koen|lab | zecke: leonardo rocks |
| 07:28.51 | koen|lab | (santagada, not the turtle) |
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| 07:30.03 | zecke | ~time |
| 07:30.15 | ibot | You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.04.02 7:30:15 GMT) |
| 07:30.21 | mickeyl | heh |
| 07:32.15 | zecke | http://rafb.net/p/wpm2hR13.html |
| 07:35.26 | jselect | odd question guys.. is there a way I can add a directory like /home/root to the install for a package? |
| 07:35.38 | mickeyl | jselect: yes, although it's not recommended |
| 07:35.49 | mickeyl | FILES_${whatever} += "<whatever>" |
| 07:35.50 | T0mW | zecke: I had to make a correction to sha256sum in base.bbclass to eliminate it in favor of shasum. Patches are in mailing list. |
| 07:35.57 | jselect | mickeyl: why isn't it recommended? |
| 07:36.23 | mickeyl | including user directories in packages is prone to fail if someone installs without permissions |
| 07:37.00 | mickeyl | and there's always the question of overriding stuff you might want to keep |
| 07:37.03 | mickeyl | rpm handles that |
| 07:37.05 | mickeyl | ipkg not |
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| 07:37.10 | mickeyl | i.e. there's no foobar.ipkgsave |
| 07:38.03 | jselect | mickeyl: ok well part of it is a set of files to go in /opt which don't seem to be included by default either so it's not all bad |
| 07:38.21 | jselect | mickeyl: thanks for the tip though.. I might see about adding it to the readme |
| 07:38.31 | darmou | does anyone know the name of the shell script to make a Packages file for a local feed? |
| 07:38.42 | mickeyl | ipkg-make-index ? |
| 07:39.04 | jselect | mickeyl: Interesting.. I defined FILES_extra with the full path to the files but they weren't packaged. |
| 07:39.13 | jselect | mickeyl: perhaps I need to include the directories themselves? |
| 07:39.36 | Henryk | darmou: bitbake package-index |
| 07:39.52 | jselect | obviously the files in /etc and /usr/bin are packaged automatically if they're in the install dir |
| 07:39.53 | darmou | Henryk, thanks:) |
| 07:39.55 | mickeyl | jselect: if you add new packages you need to adjust PACKAGES as well |
| 07:40.03 | mickeyl | PACKAGES += "${PN}-extra" |
| 07:40.09 | mickeyl | FILES_${PN}-extra = "foobar" |
| 07:41.21 | hrw | morniing |
| 07:41.27 | mickeyl | cheers hrw |
| 07:41.36 | mickeyl | hrw: tried SD/2.6 yet? ;) |
| 07:41.47 | jselect | mickeyl: so if I added the files to FILES_${PN} then I wouldn't need to install ${PN}-extra.. seems smoother as they're not actually extras but required parts of the package |
| 07:42.04 | mickeyl | ya |
| 07:42.20 | jselect | mickeyl: ok thanks, trying that now |
| 07:42.33 | mickeyl | np, please also review the default value of all these magic variables in bitbake.conf |
| 07:43.24 | jselect | Ah.. It doesn't work if I add them with FILES_${PN} += then it dies trying to copy the /etc/X11 dir from the image dir to the install dir however if I define FILES_${PN} in total via just an = then it works. cheers |
| 07:43.40 | jselect | mickeyl: I'll have a look in there as part of this package dev :) |
| 07:43.42 | hrw | mickeyl: not yet - just ate breakfast |
| 07:43.56 | mickeyl | hrw: good. a good breakfast is an important start :) |
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| 07:44.29 | mickeyl | hrw: received the tosa |
| 07:44.35 | mickeyl | had to pay EUR 80 for customs :/ |
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| 07:56.30 | XorA | morning |
| 08:02.20 | darmou | Henryk, for some reason I can update my package list ok but can't install anything from it, keeps compaining about missing packages |
| 08:02.36 | darmou | Henryk, I have done an ipkg update of course |
| 08:03.16 | Henryk | hmm, don't look at me :) I've only started using ipkg one week ago |
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| 08:08.53 | darmou | this is really bizzar [root@spitz:/var/lib/ipkg] # ipkg list | grep mono |
| 08:08.53 | darmou | mono - 1.2.2.1-r1 - Mono Programming Language |
| 08:09.15 | darmou | but when I try to install mono it says that it is not avaliable, what gives? |
| 08:09.42 | darmou | Cannot find package mono |
| 08:12.49 | keesj | darmou: perhaps is has something to to do with achritechure. I also only started using ipkg quite recently but when I perform an ipkg update is showd some information about masked packages etc perhaps it's something like that? |
| 08:13.22 | keesj | I installed mono using the ar packageName , tar zcvf method and it kinda worked |
| 08:13.39 | jselect | Can anyone suggest a program to load an X background that doesn't require a window manager? I like xloadimage but it doesn't have a recipe in oe yet. I'd like to avoid creating one if possible :) |
| 08:13.52 | darmou | keesj, :) done that before many a time too |
| 08:17.53 | hrw | pH5: any plans on SRCDATE for libxcalibrate and calibrateproto? |
| 08:18.39 | pH5 | that's a good idea. just pick a date. |
| 08:20.56 | jselect | hmm.. apparently I could set the background with fbsetbg or xv but I don't see packages for those either |
| 08:21.16 | hrw | pH5: today it built with today date |
| 08:21.25 | koen|lab | s/date/rev/ |
| 08:21.48 | pH5 | right, timeless git |
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| 08:22.14 | darmou | keesj, I think you are correct about the arch problem even trying to install it directly with the package on disk did not work, I'm not sure why package is a _armv5te type and I am using a 3100 zaurus very strange |
| 08:22.55 | XorA | darmou: check /etc/ipkg/arches |
| 08:25.37 | darmou | XorA, that file arch.conf was missing, fixed problem now, thanks for your help |
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| 08:36.05 | koen|lab | yay! |
| 08:36.09 | koen|lab | 64.3dB SINAD |
| 08:36.17 | koen|lab | 64.36 even |
| 08:44.04 | rwhitby | pity the correct answer was 64.37 ... |
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| 08:46.58 | florian | good morning |
| 08:48.37 | oxo | morning |
| 08:49.23 | oxo | is there a way to dictate the host-system, when running on a x86_64 box supporting 32bit userland? |
| 08:49.40 | oxo | the 64bit gcc/binutils combo seem not to work :-/ |
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| 08:54.30 | oxo | should I set BUILD_ARCH in my local.conf? |
| 08:54.38 | koen|lab | mickeyl: Signal to noise and distortion ratio |
| 08:55.05 | koen|lab | the goal was 60db (e.g 6 million times less noise as signal) |
| 08:55.11 | mickeyl | ah, cool |
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| 08:58.37 | keesj | re |
| 08:59.28 | koen|lab | ~lart matlab for log being ln |
| 08:59.28 | ibot | takes out a cattle prod and gives matlab a good jolt for log being ln |
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| 09:08.21 | hrw | ~lart OE for autoconf 2.59 |
| 09:08.21 | ibot | executes killall -TERM OE for autoconf 2.59 |
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| 09:13.48 | hrw | NOTE: package coreutils-native-6.0-r1: task do_configure: completed |
| 09:13.50 | hrw | uf.. |
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| 09:44.11 | hrw | rwhitby, koen: I will push coreutils(-native) 6.0 into OE - what do you think about DEF_PREF=-1 for them? let do some builds and if they build then set it as default? |
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| 09:46.49 | RP | mickeyl: I'd been hoping for something sooner than two months :/ |
| 09:47.13 | RP | mickeyl: I've replied to your lzo question btw, let me know if you need any more info |
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| 09:49.19 | zecke | re |
| 09:49.37 | zecke | hrw: coreutils-native to get sha256sum? |
| 09:49.43 | zecke | hrw: how do you want to trust that? |
| 09:50.35 | hrw | zecke: I can compare it with debian coreutils |
| 09:51.01 | zecke | hrw: how do you compare it? You can't |
| 09:51.24 | hrw | zecke: results can be compared |
| 09:51.25 | zecke | hrw: if you use a untrusted sha256sum implementation it is better to not use sha256 at all |
| 09:51.28 | zecke | hrw: which results? |
| 09:51.48 | hrw | zecke: so you suggest "stick with md5sum"? |
| 09:52.18 | zecke | hrw: no, but building coreutils-native to get sha256sum is wrong, it is as stupid as accepting unknown certificates |
| 09:53.17 | hrw | zecke: ok. then no sha256 from me. or you will give me trusted RHEL4 package |
| 09:54.45 | XorA | as I beleive thats the only implementation that even stands a hope of passing FIPs or CC |
| 09:54.50 | zecke | hrw: sure you can manually build coreutils-native and verify it |
| 09:55.03 | mickeyl | RP: I imagined that, but please see it from a vendor perspective (non-OM here, I'm really wearing the OpenEmbedded hat here)... |
| 09:55.06 | zecke | hrw: but putting a untrusted sha256sum into the core of your trust chain is bad |
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| 10:04.58 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3dca1a73... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): gnupg: drop 1.4.0 directory, drop gnupg2 1.9.15 (too old) |
| 10:05.10 | CIA-11 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r696fafb8... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): coreutils: added 6.0 (DEF_PREF=-1) |
| 10:06.31 | zecke | Regarding sha256sum, I think we should go back to shasum. As this can be easily installed with cpan |
| 10:06.53 | RP | mickeyl: I know. Perhaps I can can add half the patch to at least paper over the cracks for now whilst not breaking backwards compatibility yet... |
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| 10:07.10 | mickeyl | RP: that'd be helpful |
| 10:10.00 | RP | mickeyl: My other concern is we already have epoch code in OE.dev despite me trying to apply the brakes :/ |
| 10:10.18 | mickeyl | ya, that's worrying me as well |
| 10:11.28 | pH5 | is this really dangerous? the xorg packages are selected by PREFERRED_VERSION anyway. |
| 10:11.33 | rwhitby | hrw: sure I can do a coreutils build right now. |
| 10:12.00 | hrw | zecke: sha1sum? |
| 10:12.43 | zecke | hrw: what is that? |
| 10:13.05 | zecke | hrw: sha1sum is SHA-1 and found to be insecure, we are on SHA-256 |
| 10:13.15 | hrw | ok |
| 10:14.54 | rwhitby | RP, mickeyl: yep - even my emails on the subject clearly pointing out the dependency on OM code didn't stop epoch dependency in .dev getting committed. |
| 10:15.16 | rwhitby | but that's to be expected with .dev, so I can't complain. |
| 10:15.43 | RP | pH5: Its dangerous as people don't pay attention and you now need manual interaction to prevent feed contamination unless you use a new bitbake |
| 10:16.16 | RP | I guess we have to decide how much dev work is allowed in OE.dev... |
| 10:17.01 | RP | mickeyl: Going back to your point about vendors, a vendor shouldn't be using OE.dev directly and hence should just be able to filter out the changes in theory |
| 10:17.26 | RP | It comes back to the question of stability and a stable branch too :/ |
| 10:19.40 | hrw | or maybe not now.. |
| 10:21.03 | RP | hrw: ? |
| 10:21.09 | mr_nice | as a user of oe I would love to have a official stable tree. |
| 10:21.49 | RP | mr_nice: Lots of people would love it. Can you write down the criteria for how it would be managed and who would manage it though? |
| 10:22.07 | hrw | RP: 1.9 != devshell |
| 10:23.04 | RP | hrw: I should commit the interactive tasks proposal... |
| 10:23.32 | rwhitby | hrw: I too can no longer build OE on my CentOS 4.4 box until I find a trusted sha256sum for it. I couldn't find sha256sum in the packages that http://www.openembedded.org/+http%3A//www.openembedded.org/dl/packages/rpm/openembedded-essential-1.1-1.noarch.rpm installs ... |
| 10:24.01 | hrw | rwhitby: I only use that rhel4 box. |
| 10:24.17 | zecke | rwhitby: do you have a shasum? |
| 10:24.41 | rwhitby | hrw: luckily I build on both CentOS 4.4 and Debian Etch, so I can at least continue development on the OE core team's preferred platform ... |
| 10:25.13 | rwhitby | zecke: not in the base install, I haven't looked closely on rpmforge and other 3rd party compatible sites yet. |
| 10:25.36 | zecke | rwhitby: is using CPAN okay on CentOS? |
| 10:26.01 | RP | rwhitby: There is no preferred platform, our aim is to support multiple ones. We just need to find a way forward that lets us do so |
| 10:26.19 | rwhitby | RP: yeah, I know. I was just having a poke :-) |
| 10:26.41 | zecke | rwhitby: etch is not released, we are using oldstable |
| 10:27.32 | rwhitby | RP: what would have been better perhaps was an RFC identifying that sha256sum would be a new required essential tool for OE development, and allow people to find and report solutions for installing sha256sum on the devel mailing list for about a week before that requirement was implemented ... |
| 10:27.35 | pH5 | zecke: maybe use sha256sum or shasum, whichever is available? |
| 10:28.14 | rwhitby | I mean it's been insecure for how many years? One more week aint gonna make a difference ... |
| 10:28.16 | zecke | rwhitby: yes, this was send half a year ago |
| 10:28.39 | XorA | s/insecure/slightly less secure/ |
| 10:29.02 | zecke | rwhitby: there was an RFC on which SHA to use, the only input was from Eric and we have settled on SHA-256 |
| 10:29.02 | rwhitby | zecke: apologies if that's the case. I don't remember sha256sum being identified as the selected tool. I remember md5sum stuff ... |
| 10:29.13 | RP | rwhitby: zecke did mention it a while ago although I must admit I'd not realised the sha was required |
| 10:29.35 | rwhitby | zecke: apologies then - I must not have read the RFC closely enough. |
| 10:29.36 | zecke | rwhitby: but actually I didn't look into the required tools |
| 10:29.52 | zecke | rwhitby: as shasum is preinstalled on OSX I assumed its pressence |
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| 10:30.04 | rwhitby | zecke: yep, these things happen. |
| 10:30.22 | RP | more security that is |
| 10:30.30 | rwhitby | BTW, coreutils-native-6.0 builds find on SlugOS/LE :-) |
| 10:30.36 | rwhitby | s/find/fine/ |
| 10:30.48 | hrw | RP: bitbake 1.9 should set PATCHRESOLVER = "noop" |
| 10:30.53 | NAiL | rwhitby: feel free to test "fis". I've committed it to head now. |
| 10:31.03 | zecke | hrw: that is not bitbake jobs |
| 10:31.18 | hrw | s/bitbake 1.9/OE with bitbake 1.9/ |
| 10:31.30 | RP | hrw: No, we should commit my interactive tasks patch |
| 10:31.41 | RP | hrw: noop should have been the default anyway... |
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| 10:33.07 | rwhitby | NAiL: fis_1.0-r1? |
| 10:33.14 | NAiL | no, -r2 |
| 10:33.15 | CIA-11 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rcae3b433... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fis: Update fis util to one that doesn't require boost/libstdc++. Looks like it's working, but needs testing |
| 10:33.25 | NAiL | I committed to mtn.oe.org |
| 10:33.55 | NAiL | I've semi-tested it myself, on a copy of a redboot fis partition |
| 10:34.21 | rwhitby | I saw it's down from 800Kb to 8Kb now ... |
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| 10:35.12 | NAiL | yeah, that's a stripped, shared binary on my laptop. Not sure what the ARM size would be, but I bet it won't be much larger. |
| 10:35.34 | NAiL | phil has been very helpful when he could spare the time :) |
| 10:36.22 | NAiL | Now someone needs to write a util to change the redboot config ;-) |
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| 10:36.52 | zecke | BTW: touch conf/checksums.ini |
| 10:37.10 | zecke | and it will not check any sums |
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| 10:38.01 | rwhitby | NAiL: I thought someone wrote that ... |
| 10:38.37 | NAiL | really? Who, when what where? :) |
| 10:38.53 | rwhitby | NAiL: fis - 8352 bytes. |
| 10:38.59 | NAiL | nice :-D |
| 10:42.16 | zecke | So back to our SHA256 options |
| 10:42.41 | zecke | a) require sha256sum from a recent coreutils which is not available on OSX, FreeBSD, RHEL, Mandriva |
| 10:43.04 | zecke | b) require shasum which is installed by default on OSX, packaged in Ubuntu and Debian and installable using CPAN |
| 10:43.14 | zecke | c) require python2.5 which has a hashlib |
| 10:43.38 | rwhitby | zecke: I try not to use CPAN on my CentOS box, cause then I don't get automatic updates on perl version changes. |
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| 10:43.57 | rwhitby | yeah, actually all three options are no good for a production RHEL system. |
| 10:44.20 | pH5 | rwhitby: what would work for rhel? |
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| 10:44.30 | rwhitby | pH5: good question. |
| 10:44.34 | zecke | pH5: probably not using sha256 |
| 10:44.40 | pH5 | :) |
| 10:44.42 | rwhitby | md5sum is there ;-) |
| 10:45.00 | NAiL | rwhitby: http://andrzejekiert.ovh.org/software.html.en seems to be what I'm looking for. I'll try to get it into OE ;) |
| 10:45.09 | pH5 | zecke: shouldn't it be possible to use whichever of a),b),c) is available? |
| 10:45.45 | zecke | pH5: d) write my own sha code |
| 10:45.45 | NAbyss | zecke: What about d).. package sha256sum in OE and build as required, just as quilt etc. is? |
| 10:45.54 | RP | zecke: d) building a native package and playing with ASSUME_PROVIDED |
| 10:46.02 | NAiL | rwhitby: 20 -rwxr-xr-x 1 repvik repvik 17032 2007-04-02 12:46 fconfig |
| 10:46.07 | zecke | NAbyss: yes, if we package sha256sum.c in OE |
| 10:46.14 | NAiL | rwhitby: That's not ARM, but it looks good ;-) |
| 10:46.14 | rwhitby | zecke: I'd be happy with a flag which you have to set in local.conf to use an OE-built sha256sum |
| 10:46.55 | zecke | rwhitby: currently you can disable checksum checking by creating an empty conf/checksums.ini in your BBPATH |
| 10:46.56 | hrw | zecke: will you trust such sha? |
| 10:47.46 | zecke | hrw: well base.bbclass and sha256sum.c are in the same manifest, and I hope mtn moves to sha256 soon |
| 10:48.13 | rwhitby | zecke: here's the thing. I do agree with checksumming tarballs that come from various places. So I don't want to disable it. |
| 10:49.12 | rwhitby | zecke: and I am happy to check the tarball that I download for coreutils 6.0, to make sure that the sha256sum that OE builds for me can be trusted. |
| 10:49.32 | rwhitby | and then I set a flag in my local.conf and it's happy ever after ... |
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| 10:49.54 | zecke | okay so |
| 10:50.16 | zecke | d) try shasum and sha256sum and if both are not present disable sha checking |
| 10:50.22 | zecke | e) require openssl |
| 10:50.49 | pH5 | f) require all of them, runtime-check their speed and choose the fastest |
| 10:50.58 | zecke | pH5: hehe |
| 10:51.16 | zecke | g) same as f) but compare all results |
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| 10:51.30 | rwhitby | zecke: what's the openssl alternative? my openssl on RHEL4 has sha and sha1 commands |
| 10:51.49 | zecke | rwhitby: http://nedron.net/cgi-bin/suid/dnedrow/fom?_recurse=1&file=1 |
| 10:51.50 | koen|lab | h) d + WARNING |
| 10:52.19 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:52.51 | zecke | rwhitby: openssl dgst --help 2>&1 | grep sha256 |
| 10:52.51 | pH5 | yeah, we need more emotional software |
| 10:53.10 | rwhitby | -bash-3.00$ openssl dgst -sha256 |
| 10:53.10 | rwhitby | unknown option '-sha256' |
| 10:53.40 | CIA-11 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rb97fbd84... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): redboot-utils: move package fis to redboot-utils, add package fconfig |
| 10:53.41 | NAiL | rwhitby: fconfig commit coming in. If you happen to have a config partition handy, feel free to test :-) |
| 10:54.06 | koen|lab | my debian openssl has it, but not my mac openssl |
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| 10:55.35 | zecke | koen|lab: which openssl |
| 10:55.36 | zecke | /space/dports/bin/openssl |
| 10:55.51 | zecke | rwhitby: which sha's do you have? |
| 10:56.05 | koen|lab | zecke: /usr/bin/openssl |
| 10:56.09 | rwhitby | zecke: so how about the option of allowing a flag in local.conf to say that you trust the OE sha256sum ? |
| 10:56.21 | rwhitby | -sha1 to use the sha1 message digest algorithm |
| 10:56.21 | rwhitby | -sha to use the sha message digest algorithm |
| 10:56.48 | rwhitby | openssl-0.9.7a-43.14 |
| 10:57.04 | zecke | rwhitby: well, I can put sha256sum.c into OE, and this is equally trusted as our base.bbclass |
| 10:57.16 | rwhitby | zecke: that works for me. |
| 10:57.42 | NAiL | rwhitby: so, now OE has userspace utils for both uboot and redboot manipulation :-) |
| 10:58.14 | hrw | NAiL: which tool to tweak uboot? and how it works? |
| 10:58.30 | rwhitby | NAiL: now we need a devirginator for slugs, which runs on vendor firmware, and turns it into SlugOS without even a reboot. |
| 11:00.28 | Crofton | my USB serial port works fine |
| 11:01.24 | zecke | RP: you will need to help to add the proper quilt-native:do_fetch dependency on sha256sum.c |
| 11:03.08 | hrw | Crofton: I have onboard serial - just need to connect cable |
| 11:03.46 | Crofton | ah |
| 11:09.50 | hrw | ~lart collie patchset |
| 11:09.50 | ibot | cuts collie patchset into thin stripes |
| 11:11.59 | koen|lab | hrw: it's against 2.6.unknown? |
| 11:17.38 | hrw | 2.6.20 |
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| 11:26.18 | rwhitby | NAiL: we'll need to add checksum support for the NAS100d and DSMG600. |
| 11:26.26 | rwhitby | (to the fis package) |
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| 11:29.11 | pH5 | what do I have to do in Makefile.am to let a program be linked with the --export-dynamic ld option? |
| 11:29.11 | rwhitby | NAiL: fconfig didn't emit any package ... |
| 11:29.20 | CIA-11 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r934ffc45... 10/ (1 packages/qpf-fonts/qpf-unismall_1.0.0.bb): qpf-unismall: hardwire SRC_URI for .jp sourceforge mirror. Seems to be necessary. |
| 11:29.21 | RP | zecke: Just let me know what kind of dependency we need |
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| 11:37.54 | zecke | ~lart git for GNUism's |
| 11:37.54 | ibot | puts git into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of git's hair of for GNUism's |
| 11:38.11 | hrw | uf. kernel built (too big but built) |
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| 11:40.04 | slapin_nb | hi! |
| 11:40.18 | slapin_nb | what is shasum and where to get it? |
| 11:40.34 | slapin_nb | any -native package? |
| 11:42.30 | hrw | coreutils-native 6.0 |
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| 11:46.37 | Laibsch | what package for ubuntu edgy? |
| 11:47.00 | hrw | coreutils |
| 11:47.02 | Laibsch | coreutils has md5sum but apparently not shasum |
| 11:47.12 | hrw | Laibsch: coreutils 5.97 you need |
| 11:47.18 | zecke | Laibsch: read the backlog |
| 11:47.44 | Laibsch | Well, that version does not seem to be in edgy yet |
| 11:47.59 | Laibsch | I'll go the "bitbake coreutils"-route |
| 11:48.14 | Laibsch | coreutils-native |
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| 11:49.31 | hrw | Laibsch: bitbake coreutils-native-6.0 |
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| 11:51.31 | zecke | if anyone adds this line to the wiki, I will don't hesitate to shoot him/her |
| 11:53.28 | hrw | 20K to take.. |
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| 11:57.56 | Laibsch | hrw: chicken-and-egg-problem. Cannot build coreutils-native-6.0 without sha256sum. Moving checksums.ini out the way as suggested elsewhere did not fix this either. |
| 11:58.52 | Laibsch | Wouldn't it be best to disapprove this change until some better solution has been found (such as including the code in base.bbclass)? |
| 12:21.42 | zecke|food | Laibsch: keep your feet still :) |
| 12:22.29 | zecke|food | Laibsch: but touching checksums.ini should work, if not then please take a look at base.bbclass and print the path |
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| 12:58.47 | slapin_nb | is there some plans to make cxtest available in OE? |
| 13:00.42 | slapin_nb | that'd be nice tool for regression testing |
| 13:00.58 | robtaylor | slapin_nb: hey :) |
| 13:01.09 | slapin_nb | robtaylor, hi! |
| 13:01.16 | robtaylor | slapin_nb: how goes? |
| 13:01.33 | slapin_nb | robtaylor, fine, changing jobs :) |
| 13:02.05 | robtaylor | slapin_nb: oh, cool. who's you're new employer? |
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| 13:02.35 | slapin_nb | robtaylor, since 12 of April, Siemens-ru |
| 13:03.50 | robtaylor | slapin_nb: very cool :) |
| 13:04.07 | slapin_nb | robtaylor, hope so :) |
| 13:04.12 | robtaylor | slapin_nb: and doing open source stuff? |
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| 13:12.44 | slapin_nb | robtaylor, yes :) |
| 13:12.51 | robtaylor | :) |
| 13:13.11 | slapin_nb | robtaylor, in 5-letter company-style though, but anyway :) |
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| 13:55.11 | CIA-11 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rabc5baea... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:55.11 | CIA-11 | osb-jscore_svn.bb, osb-nrcit_svn.bb, osb-nrcore_svn.bb : update the PV to |
| 13:55.11 | CIA-11 | reflect svn updates, some small changes to fix building. |
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| 14:01.29 | concept10 | is OE based on Debian? |
| 14:04.26 | hrw | no |
| 14:04.54 | hrw | OE use some policies from Debian, most of our distros use Debian naming of packages |
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| 14:08.03 | concept10 | hrw: thanks |
| 14:08.19 | concept10 | I have to get back on my desktop, this console isnt cutting it! |
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| 14:12.19 | NAiL | hrw: uboot-utils, to fiddle with uboot config from userspace |
| 14:12.47 | NAiL | requires working mtd though, someone tested on fic neo and couldn't get it to work. |
| 14:12.54 | hrw | ok |
| 14:13.11 | NAiL | rwhitby: didn't it make a package? That's ... odd. |
| 14:13.24 | NAiL | It did when I built it here ;) |
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| 14:25.22 | NAiL | rwhitby: found the problem, committing fix now. |
| 14:27.39 | CIA-11 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r4d3d0b6a... 10/ (1 packages/redboot-utils/fconfig_20060419.bb): fconfig: Actually install binary, so it gets packaged |
| 14:35.29 | chouimat | zecke: ROFL http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/java-patches/2007-q2/msg00000.html |
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| 14:46.34 | hrw | chouimat: ;DDD |
| 14:51.44 | zecke | :) |
| 15:00.11 | mr_nice | added the simpad development update as bugrep 2073. hopefully this time I made no mistakes. |
| 15:05.58 | zecke | mr_nice: well, even if you did mistakes. There is nothing that can't be recovered/fixed |
| 15:07.42 | XorA | CIA-11: kick |
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| 15:09.26 | CIA-11 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5f616224... 10/ (16 files in 5 dirs): ipkg: remove a couple of outdated ones, update is_processing patch courtesy OpenMoko, Inc. |
| 15:09.30 | CIA-11 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rd40606a5... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:09.30 | CIA-11 | kazehakase_0.4.5.bb : interesting gtk-webore based browser, currently |
| 15:09.30 | CIA-11 | requires svn versions of osb-nr* and osb-jscore stuff. |
| 15:09.35 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r6bc2006e... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-base/openmoko-theme-standard-qvga_svn.bb): |
| 15:09.35 | CIA-11 | openmoko-theme-qvga: don't package the vga theme and label as qvga, |
| 15:09.35 | CIA-11 | use the qvga theme instead |
| 15:10.23 | mr_nice | zecke: its about getting integrated - less mistakes -> faster integration :). often make misstakes -> more effort for the integrator to read it -> long time to get integrated even if it is fixed in the second patch. |
| 15:12.03 | mr_nice | s/integrated/included |
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| 15:37.58 | mrdata | hi all |
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| 15:40.19 | zecke | ah my mini sha256 code seems to work |
| 15:41.07 | mr_nice | mrdata: hi |
| 15:41.27 | mrdata | mr_nice: hi too |
| 15:43.47 | zecke | koen: do you think naming my sha256sum code zhasum is appropriate? |
| 15:44.00 | koen | zecke: vlasum |
| 15:44.34 | zecke | hehe, I want to avoid confusion with the real implementation |
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| 15:47.02 | zecke | ~lart me for forgetting to start the webcore build :} |
| 15:47.02 | ibot | duct-tapes zecke to the floor and drools on him for forgetting to start the webcore build :} |
| 15:48.35 | koen | the new svn ones? |
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| 15:48.52 | mickeyl | pH5: oops sorry |
| 15:49.04 | zecke | koen: yes |
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| 16:14.05 | Zero_Chaos | !oebug 2074 |
| 16:14.07 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 2074, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-02 09:20 |
| 16:14.08 | cdbot2 | * * r.farina(AT)adelphia.net: opie-rdesktop build failure |
| 16:14.08 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2074 |
| 16:14.16 | Zero_Chaos | if someone could take a peek at that for me please |
| 16:20.16 | zecke | RP: we can now hook shasum-native as primary depedency into OE :} |
| 16:21.30 | RP | For bitbake 1.8 this would be do_fetch[depends] = "shasum-native" and do_fetch[depends] = "" in the .bb |
| 16:21.52 | RP | zecke: Older bitbakes are ugly and will need playing with DEPENDS :/ |
| 16:22.27 | RP | s/shasum-native/shasum-native:do_populate_staging/ |
| 16:23.05 | zecke | RP: as we have epoch handling in OE, we can consider to require 1.8.2? :} |
| 16:23.34 | RP | zecke: Perhaps now is the time for an anon python function to automatically inject svn-native, cvs-native, git-native as needed too :} |
| 16:23.56 | RP | zecke: mickeyl said two months earlier for that. We need to discuss this... |
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| 16:37.48 | zecke | RP: I always try to avoid this situation. With Bitbake1.4 and 1.6 we did fairly well. I would like to keep such changes at a minimum :} |
| 16:38.50 | koen | RP: we could also up the dep without landing the changes |
| 16:39.23 | zecke | once we require such things, we can add the 'injects' step by step |
| 16:40.03 | koen | does OE still have the old and insecure openssl? |
| 16:40.30 | zecke | probably we do :( |
| 16:40.47 | zecke | we should just remove OpenSSL from OE |
| 16:40.52 | koen | I vaguely remember something about patches in the bugtracker |
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| 16:42.02 | RP | zecke: We probably could make older versions a special case and add code to inject things into them maybe. We can't sort the epoch problem easily though... |
| 16:43.02 | philippe | how do I get out of the shell I get dropped into if a patch fails to apply, without interrupting OE? |
| 16:43.22 | zecke | philippe: pester RP to commit his patch :) |
| 16:43.50 | philippe | zecke: ok... |
| 16:43.51 | Zero_Chaos | RP: does your kernel have hostap firmware download enabled? |
| 16:44.06 | philippe | ~pester RP |
| 16:44.10 | ibot | RP: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
| 16:44.29 | Zero_Chaos | ~poke RP |
| 16:44.30 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind RP, pokes RP repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 16:44.41 | Zero_Chaos | ~emulate stewie |
| 16:44.43 | ibot | Damn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers! |
| 16:44.46 | philippe | actually it seems to work now.... CTRL+D seems to continue |
| 16:45.08 | zecke | RP: for the shasum problem DEPENDS = "shasum-native" inside the base.bbclass |
| 16:45.12 | philippe | ~emulate zecke |
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| 16:46.59 | zecke | philippe: hey? |
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| 16:47.47 | RP | philippe: There is a patch on the mailing list which I need to commit since nobody has objected. I'm presuming this is bitbake 1.8+? |
| 16:47.59 | RP | Zero_Chaos: No, its not enabled and won't be as standard |
| 16:49.22 | philippe | Actually 1.6, but it is the one I use for the openmoko builds... |
| 16:49.31 | Zero_Chaos | RP: since it is a willful act to update the firmware, and almost always needed on the crappy CF cards. I am certain your reason is because it is such a "danger", but honestly, it is more of a pain in the butt to not have upgrade ablity IMHO. |
| 16:49.39 | RP | philippe: Right, Ctrl+D is the right thing for that |
| 16:49.56 | apaulsen | I installed this new shasum-native and I have tmp/staging/native-machine/bin/sha256sum, but the sanity checker keeps complaining that it is missing. What am I doing wrong? |
| 16:50.11 | RP | Zero_Chaos: It was a distro decision and not one I'm going to argue with |
| 16:50.21 | philippe | RP: it is okay as long as it works. I believe last time it stopped but that might be because I used exit |
| 16:50.43 | Zero_Chaos | RP: if the choice was not yours, can you tell me who I should beg? |
| 16:50.58 | philippe | Anyway 1.8 is a great improvement for multi-cpu machines |
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| 16:54.18 | xuumbi | so this weekend I made a babycam using a spare epia board, an old quickcam webcam, an ide to cf adapter, and a 32mb cf card running OE :) |
| 16:54.26 | hrw | cu |
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| 16:55.27 | xuumbi | it works pretty well, but the wireless connection is dropping after a while and I can't figure out why |
| 16:55.34 | xuumbi | I'm using the webcam_server software |
| 16:55.50 | xuumbi | and I had to make a .bb file for the quickcam driver |
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| 16:57.54 | CIA-11 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re93b10cf... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/gpe-applauncher_0.7.bb): gpe-applauncher: Remove obsolete patch. |
| 16:57.59 | CIA-11 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * raff69a14... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/gpe-applauncher-0.7/default-icon.patch): gpe-applauncher: remove patch file |
| 16:58.03 | CIA-11 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r68025812... 10/ (1 classes/openmoko-base.bbclass): classes/openmoko-base.bbclass: add support for inputmethods |
| 16:58.08 | CIA-11 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * read450bb... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): openmoko-keyboard: catch up with changes in OM svn |
| 16:58.12 | CIA-11 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r4182d550... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): |
| 16:58.12 | CIA-11 | packages/shasum: Add a sha256sum utility with little dependencies |
| 16:58.12 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.12 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.12 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.58 | minDscrm | is the css weird on openembedded.org ? (the paragraphs highlight when i move my mouse over them) |
| 17:02.32 | CIA-11 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r77ed88b5... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/gpe-applauncher_0.7.bb): disapproval of revision 'e93b10cfd979b1f989c686de6d2f75006362d34e' |
| 17:02.38 | CIA-11 | 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re4274d99... 10/ (1 packages/gpephone/gpe-applauncher-0.7/default-icon.patch): disapproval of revision 'aff69a14340dd1655bfe774109fde80cc509eed6' |
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| 17:10.52 | minDscrm | what is a popular platform to run this on? |
| 17:14.01 | Bernardo | hi |
| 17:16.04 | zecke | I'm a moron.. |
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| 17:23.24 | zecke | RP: http://rafb.net/p/06RGAW92.html comments? |
| 17:27.33 | RP | zecke: It shouldn't depend on INHIBIT_DEFAULT_DEPS, just that PN != "shasum-native" |
| 17:28.51 | CIA-11 | 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r26684890... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-inputmethods/openmoko-keyboard_svn.bb): |
| 17:28.51 | CIA-11 | packages/openmoko-inputmethods/openmoko-keyboard_svn.bb |
| 17:28.51 | CIA-11 | * correct the svn source url |
| 17:29.04 | hvontres|poodle | xuumbi: hehe... nice use of resources :) |
| 17:29.28 | koen | philippe: ehm, that should have been held back for 4.5 hours |
| 17:29.43 | koen | philippe: people that don't use SRCDATE=now will get an error now |
| 17:31.26 | philippe | koen: oops sorry. |
| 17:32.52 | philippe | but I don't get the exact issue. It probably does not build for them anyway as the original svn url is broken anyway. |
| 17:33.40 | koen | philippe: the svn fetcher fetches the state of last midnight |
| 17:33.56 | koen | and at that point it was still in /applications/ |
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| 17:34.22 | philippe | oh yeah... true.... |
| 17:34.41 | koen | (unless you use SRCDATE=now) |
| 17:34.57 | philippe | well the problem will solve itself in 4.5 hours... |
| 17:35.01 | koen | indeed |
| 17:35.29 | koen | I think midnight GMT even |
| 17:35.32 | philippe | most people will be building OpenMoko with SRCDATE=now anyway |
| 17:35.55 | koen | people that do that probably use the svn overlay as well |
| 17:36.18 | koen | SRCDATE=now without the openmoko bitbake patch == breakage |
| 17:37.22 | philippe | I haven't being looking into detail in that stuff as I have been using the MokoMakefile. |
| 17:37.29 | koen | heh |
| 17:37.35 | philippe | I did not want to screw up my other OE build env |
| 17:37.37 | koen | too stupid to setup OE? |
| 17:38.06 | philippe | nope, wanted to keep OM apart from regular OE with 1.8 |
| 17:39.21 | koen | there is no need for the svn overlay IMO |
| 17:39.31 | koen | unless you want the lastest and untested kernel |
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| 17:48.13 | zecke | RP: inhibit default deps won't work?! |
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| 17:56.03 | zecke | woglinde: http://www.openembedded.org/~zecke/opengl/ |
| 17:56.35 | woglinde | hm ogg |
| 17:57.11 | zecke | woglinde: vlc can play them |
| 17:57.31 | mr_nice | woglinde: hi |
| 17:57.40 | woglinde | hi mr_nice |
| 17:57.44 | woglinde | zecke mplayer too |
| 17:58.18 | woglinde | zecke and now you writing beryl-ng? |
| 17:58.32 | zecke | woglinde: no, that is just a compiz plugin |
| 17:58.42 | zecke | woglinde: I hope to have some OpenGL ES hardware soon :) |
| 18:00.20 | Marex | zecke, so we're heading towards Xgl-kdrive ? ;) |
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| 18:10.56 | koen | zecke: should I print a MVMD shirt and wear it at ELC? |
| 18:12.44 | zecke | well, try to create a MVMD pin |
| 18:13.35 | zecke | RP: http://rafb.net/p/xzjkH479.html |
| 18:13.40 | zecke | RP: this works with BitBake1.6 |
| 18:16.23 | zecke|planschen | I'm back in a hour or two (going to swim a bit= |
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| 18:20.11 | zecke|planschen | oh another error to fix |
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| 18:22.57 | sirfred | Good evening |
| 18:23.43 | philippe | koen: and what would MVMD stand for? |
| 18:26.11 | hvontres|poodle | philippe: google has some interesting suggestions...but I don't think those are what koen has in mind...I am guessing the MV is for Monta Vista... |
| 18:26.53 | philippe | hvontres|poodle: I got that far :-) |
| 18:27.57 | hvontres|poodle | hvontres|poodle: of course knowing how koen feels about MV maybe the Muzzel Velocity Measuring Device could be close...:) |
| 18:28.35 | philippe | Master Dungeon? |
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| 19:35.14 | koen | llvm-native-1.9+cvs20070402 |
| 19:35.24 | koen | ehm |
| 19:35.26 | koen | NOTE: package llvm-native-1.9+cvs20070402: completed |
| 19:35.27 | koen | :D |
| 19:35.30 | pH5 | whee |
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| 19:40.49 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra36c2e4f... 10/ (1 packages/llvm/llvm-native_cvs.bb): llvm: add cvs version of llvm-native, this adds ARM support to the 1.9 version |
| 19:43.10 | zecke|planschen | koen: :) |
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| 19:50.35 | koen | drat, disk is full |
| 19:50.45 | Crofton | Hmm, must be mid-terms, someone made a bomb threat on one of the academic buidlings |
| 19:50.57 | mwester | What school, Crofton? |
| 19:51.04 | Crofton | Virginia Tech |
| 19:51.41 | Crofton | Hokie High |
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| 19:56.36 | zecke | koen: mv dir dir.$$ |
| 19:56.44 | woglinde | koen have you any comparsion for llvm with handheld sutff? |
| 19:56.46 | zecke | koen: rm -rf dir.newname |
| 19:57.01 | zecke | woglinde: [<----- that much better ----->] |
| 19:57.05 | koen | woglinde: I'll have to get it to compile something first :) |
| 19:57.21 | woglinde | koen hehe okay I see |
| 19:57.41 | koen | woglinde: the indt people seemed to be pretty excited about it |
| 20:00.52 | mrdata | zecke: hi, can i ask you one ore two questions, dumb i know |
| 20:01.30 | zecke | mrdata: just ask, maybe others can answer as well |
| 20:01.36 | mrdata | okay |
| 20:02.02 | mrdata | dev->suspend is a pointer of a function |
| 20:03.08 | zecke | mrdata: I can believe that |
| 20:03.23 | mrdata | how can i see the adress of the pointer inside a printk( 0x%08X, dev->suspend ) |
| 20:03.55 | zecke | mrdata: good question, %p but I don't know if printk supports it |
| 20:04.09 | mwester | printk( 0x%08X, dev) doesn't do it? |
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| 20:04.47 | mrdata | the values are not ever the same |
| 20:05.50 | mrdata | equal functions, many runs, zero pointer, next than real one |
| 20:05.51 | zecke | mrdata: so dev and dev->suspend might be uninitialized? (even if the kernel memsets everything...) |
| 20:06.47 | mrdata | but also mq200, that can not be true or? |
| 20:07.17 | zecke | mrdata: printk from another place, e.g. in the mq200 init |
| 20:07.38 | zecke | mrdata: the question is if someone makes the pointer invalid... |
| 20:08.05 | zecke | RP: koen hrw|gone : http://rafb.net/p/zIyIXx36.html comments? |
| 20:08.28 | mrdata | the simpad try suspend to ram, so pm gives suspend and later suspen_late run |
| 20:09.17 | zecke | mrdata: I don't know enough context to give a meaningul answer, the printk looks okay, sane |
| 20:09.29 | mrdata | okay, the short answer for printk and pointer should try %p |
| 20:09.32 | zecke | mrdata: e.g. print dev as well to see if this is sane/insane |
| 20:09.56 | zecke | mrdata: I don't think %p is known, so your code is good enough, specially on 32 bit archs |
| 20:10.36 | mrdata | the serial console have problems with dev_dbg |
| 20:10.38 | koen | zecke: looks pretty ok |
| 20:11.07 | zecke | someone with bitbake 1.8 needs to test it :) |
| 20:12.23 | mrdata | printk(0x%08X, *dev->suspend) is also not the correct one, was my first try |
| 20:13.22 | koen | zecke: I don't have 1.8 |
| 20:13.27 | woglinde | zecke me? |
| 20:13.35 | woglinde | hm not today |
| 20:13.47 | zecke | koen: what do you use? trunk? |
| 20:13.52 | koen | yes |
| 20:15.59 | mrdata | and thanks for ouer help, i forgot to say |
| 20:20.21 | koen | hmm |
| 20:20.23 | koen | configure.in:2226: error: possibly undefined macro: AS_FOR_TARGET |
| 20:27.11 | koen | hmm^2 |
| 20:27.13 | koen | GNUmakefile:16: /CoreOS/Standard/Standard.make: No such file or directory |
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| 20:37.59 | zecke | RP: this doesn't work for bitbake 1.8 |
| 20:44.04 | CIA-11 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r2a4ed2b2... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 20:44.04 | CIA-11 | classes/base.bbclass: place shasum-native as the first package to build |
| 20:44.04 | CIA-11 | classes/base.bbclass: Make sure shasum-native does not depend on quilt |
| 20:44.04 | CIA-11 | classes/sanity.bbclass: No need to require sha256sum as we use oe_sha256sum |
| 20:44.04 | CIA-11 | packages/shasum: Change the name, make the -native version not have any deps |
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| 21:04.13 | mrdata | good night all |
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| 22:20.23 | CIA-11 | 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * rb3f0c4c4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:20.23 | CIA-11 | altboot: Add SNVR28 |
| 22:20.23 | CIA-11 | NSLU2: Remove /sbin/altboot error message on virgin systems |
| 22:20.23 | CIA-11 | NSLU2: Failsafe fallthrough to the flash-based rootfs should work now on all die() and mdie() calls. |
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| 22:30.41 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: hey :) Do you think those die() and mdie() mods would work on a Z as well? |
| 22:30.51 | Laibsch | I get an error of "arm-linux-ar: not found" when trying to compile a package. What am I missing? |
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| 22:31.24 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: the current trunk is not useable on anything but NSLU2 at all ;) That will change eventually of course |
| 22:36.21 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: Ok. :) That does sound like a very usefull feature for automagically going into rescue mode when booting from SD fails. |
| 22:37.12 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: That is indeed exactly what it does and will eventually be available on all Z as well |
| 22:37.50 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: Cool :) how's life in nightshift treating you? |
| 22:38.19 | CoreDump|home | actually it's late-shift, not night-shift and I really like it =) |
| 22:39.13 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: Heh... I guess it makes shopping a bit easier :) |
| 22:39.56 | CoreDump|home | it does |
| 22:40.18 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: heh "Ladenschluss" is getting weaker and weaker every year. |
| 22:41.37 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: we are getting there, slowly =) |
| 23:11.25 | CIA-11 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r6af41da9... 10/ (1 packages/gpsd/gpsd.inc): gpsd: export BUILD_SYS and HOST_SYS as setup.py expects them to be set |
| 23:11.29 | CIA-11 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r49597257... 10/ (1 packages/gpsd/gpsd.inc): gpsd: export BUILD_SYS and HOST_SYS as setup.py expects them to be set, add python to DEPENDS |
| 23:14.07 | NAiL | Laibsch: binutils |
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