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| 00:07.54 | likewise | concept10: no |
| 00:08.07 | likewise | concept10: it just does not use the MMU for memory operations |
| 00:08.25 | concept10 | likewise, okay |
| 00:08.30 | likewise | concept10: and you lose some MMU specific features, such as swapping through page faults |
| 00:08.54 | likewise | concept10: also, processes can write into each others memory space without any hardware protection |
| 00:09.14 | concept10 | likewise, ohhh..... thats a big deal |
| 00:09.37 | likewise | concept10: Do you know the Amiga? |
| 00:10.14 | concept10 | likewise, I know of it and used it (but not much) I stuck with my c64 back in those days |
| 00:10.52 | likewise | concept10: It did not have an MMU, at least it was never used. If processes are properly programmed, the MMU protection is not needed. But of course, in today's complex s/w systems, anything beyond embedded needs a MMU |
| 00:11.14 | likewise | Within embedded, it depends upon your requirements for stability etc. |
| 00:11.49 | likewise | anyways, gotta go catch some sleep here. good nite |
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| 00:37.35 | CIA-11 | glibc 2.5: Fix common case of GNU arrogance, make ldd work on posix shell. |
| 00:37.35 | CIA-11 | * Not bumping PR, to save people trouble. Leaving for decision to OE maintainers. |
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| 04:20.22 | Zero_Chaos | can anyone point me to a reciepe that uses svn? |
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| 07:29.10 | goxboxlive | any of the developers awake? |
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| 08:06.25 | gremlin[it] | morning all! |
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| 08:55.24 | CIA-11 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rebdffc89... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): slugos-init: Remove special altboot support - turnup flash is all that is required. |
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| 09:10.23 | `CHR1S | hi does anyone know of any documentation about using oe w/ cygwin |
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| 09:31.57 | CIA-11 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r0d8cf148... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): altboot: Allow for multiple machines using the same source config directories. |
| 09:32.22 | NAiL | `CHR1S: Don't. Use a virtual machine instead. |
| 09:32.34 | NAiL | colinux or vmware. |
| 09:33.19 | rwhitby | yeah, with vmware player and vmware server both available for free, using cygwin for OE development is just making things hard for yourself. |
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| 09:36.42 | `CHR1S | ok ill give that a try thanks |
| 09:38.34 | NAiL | np |
| 09:39.44 | koen | 67108864 100% 13.18MB/s 0:00:04 (xfer#1, to-check=195/198) |
| 09:39.59 | gerwinin | :) |
| 09:40.04 | koen | (that was enschede -> berlin) |
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| 10:05.58 | x29a | mrdata: ping |
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| 10:11.15 | mr_nice | hi all |
| 10:11.41 | x29a | gumo mr_nice |
| 10:11.49 | mr_nice | x29a: hi |
| 10:13.38 | Laibsch | Lorn Potter in the house? I wonder if his recent activity on the ML means better support for opie? |
| 10:16.06 | mrdata | x29a: pong |
| 10:16.15 | mrdata | mr_nice: hi |
| 10:16.16 | mr_nice | mrdata: hi |
| 10:16.27 | x29a | good morning mrdata, just read&answered your email, ill try that image right now |
| 10:16.50 | mrdata | x29a: fine and i hope it will work |
| 10:16.54 | x29a | mrdata: do you think its necessary to erase the flash prior reflash? |
| 10:17.05 | mr_nice | x29a: so I will wait for that |
| 10:17.38 | x29a | mr_nice: yes please, getting the bootloader to work would be a much sweeter solution than flashing again for two days |
| 10:18.15 | mr_nice | x29a: jepp |
| 10:18.27 | mrdata | x29a: yes, because the scanning from the ohh-bootloader for jffs2 partition could end in a endless-loop |
| 10:18.43 | x29a | mrdata: with 0x0? |
| 10:19.37 | mrdata | x29a: i not realy shure, but i remeber it would 0xff insted |
| 10:20.24 | mrdata | x29a: padding for images is also done with 0xff |
| 10:20.37 | mrdata | x29a: for jffs2 images |
| 10:20.51 | x29a | ok, u think first 128blocks is enough? |
| 10:21.50 | mrdata | x29a: how big is one block? i have no quick answer yet |
| 10:21.56 | mr_nice | x29a: the jtag software has an erase function build in which is fast so you can erase the hole flash |
| 10:22.33 | x29a | mr_nice: yeah, i was thinking of eraseflash 128 0xFF then |
| 10:22.49 | x29a | mrdata: i will check |
| 10:23.02 | mrdata | x29a: good luck |
| 10:23.49 | mr_nice | x29a: yes, good luck |
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| 10:37.03 | x29a | mrdata: how does the bootloader work? how many 0xFF will it search for a jffs2 image? |
| 10:40.11 | x29a | well im off for lunch anyway now so ill start a 'eraseflash 0xFF 512' which will erase 512Blocks with 0xFF adresses, hope thatll be enough |
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| 11:05.03 | mrdata | x29a: i don't know, but it scan not for 0xff, the marking for a jffs2 partition begin with 0x85 0x19 |
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| 11:11.05 | mrdata | x29a: then the booloader do a jffs2 structur check, this check failed and could failed, if flash is not empty |
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| 11:16.12 | mrdata | x29a: 0x85 0x19 is in image, but in flash the first block should start with 0x19 0x85 0xe0 0x01, the second with 0x19 0x85 0xe0 0x01 |
| 11:16.26 | mrdata | x29a: 0x85 0x19 is in image, but in flash the first block should start with 0x19 0x85 0xe0 0x01, the second with 0x19 0x85 0xe0 0x02 |
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| 11:23.29 | mrdata | x29a: the 0x1985 is called magic bitmask for jffs2 |
| 11:23.34 | mr_nice | x29a: I think the sane choice is to erase the hole first chip. the ereaseflash function is really fast! after that i would use the hh.org bootloader eflash (http://www.handhelds.org/handhelds-faq/bootldr.html) function to get in a defined state! I have read about many problem where the siemens 2.5.3 erase flash function was not used before flashing the hh.org loader and linux to it |
| 11:24.38 | mrdata | mr_nice: but first he need a usable bootloader ;-) |
| 11:24.49 | mr_nice | mrdata: yes I know |
| 11:24.55 | mrdata | mr_nice: while flashig |
| 11:25.08 | mr_nice | mrdata: so erasing the hole first chip is a good idea I think |
| 11:25.26 | mrdata | mr_nice: while flashing, the used partition is already ereased before |
| 11:26.05 | mrdata | mr_nice: right, the whole flash is the right thing |
| 11:28.21 | mrdata | mr_nice: and flash erase with jtag can take a long time ;-) |
| 11:29.01 | mr_nice | mrdata: only if you are flashing an image to it. else it is fast |
| 11:29.40 | mr_nice | mrdata: I think it is using some buildin functions or so. |
| 11:30.46 | mrdata | mr_nice: you could be right, the flash has block erase functions, if she where used, it should be fast |
| 11:31.42 | mrdata | mr_nice: for me tasks with jtag, i must rebuild a image with jtag, so that bootloader will not be looped |
| 11:32.17 | mrdata | mr_nice: and this has take a long time |
| 11:36.42 | Laibsch | http://rafb.net/p/XtCJvh55.html I wonder what goes wrong here. What do I ned to build suspc? |
| 11:37.16 | Laibsch | what do I need to build for suspc? |
| 11:44.39 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7db23f86... 10/ (1 packages/libsexy/libsexy_0.1.11.bb): libsexy: add bugfix release 0.1.11 |
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| 12:11.20 | gerwinin | Laibsch can you pastbin your bb ? |
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| 12:44.37 | x29a | mrdata, mr_nice: ok, so i erased 512 blocks with the jtag-eraseblock-function (wrote 0xFF to them) then flashed mrdata 256Kbyte image at address 0 (flashmem 0 ohh_bootldr), reset device, configured minicom to 115k 8N1 and all i get is numbers (adresses?) running down and then ENDM<br>STKP<br>C19F3FF0<nothing more> |
| 12:44.59 | x29a | one block seems to be 13100 bytes aroundish |
| 12:45.51 | x29a | 131072K (128KiB) |
| 12:46.36 | x29a | so there is only 128 blocks (i dont know what i broke by erasing block >127) |
| 12:47.22 | x29a | for the first 16777216Byte of flash (first bank) |
| 12:47.35 | x29a | im pretty sure that jtag cant access the second rom (if there was any) |
| 12:51.46 | x29a | entering C19F3FF0 on google brings up that the bootloader wont startup my flash |
| 12:52.25 | mrdata | x29a: could you post the whole startup at http://pastebin.ca please |
| 12:52.56 | mrdata | x29a: so it could be compared agains mine |
| 12:53.17 | x29a | hmm |
| 12:53.30 | x29a | i must find out how to tell minicom where to log first |
| 12:53.46 | x29a | or i could pipe cat /dev/ttyS0 > log.txt |
| 12:54.00 | x29a | ill try, gotta do some dishes first tho, will you be around for a while? |
| 12:55.13 | mrdata | x29a: make minicom in console over x-server |
| 12:55.33 | mrdata | x29a: than you could make paste and copy |
| 12:57.09 | mrdata | x29a: or use [ctrl+a] [a] and use [l] to log in to a file |
| 12:57.18 | mrdata | x29a: or use [ctrl+a] [z] and use [l] to log in to a file |
| 13:01.39 | x29a | great, now i dont get any output anymore |
| 13:02.10 | x29a | i just read via readmem(jtag) the 262144 byte from flash, and there was no difference, so writing/reading/storing seems to work on the flash |
| 13:02.48 | x29a | mrdata: do i need any of the cables attached to the device for hh.org bootldr? ts, sound, what they all are? |
| 13:03.05 | x29a | i think, flash/seriall/jtag will all work without those, right? |
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| 13:04.27 | mrdata | x29a: yes, onyl power supply is helpfull, for jtag you don't need serial cable |
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| 13:05.23 | mrdata | x29a: but after successfully jtaged the booloader, the serial cable is neccessary, to see whats going on |
| 13:05.37 | mrdata | zecke: hi |
| 13:05.43 | x29a | yeah, i got the result i wrote above, no i dont get any output on serial |
| 13:05.47 | x29a | ill reset all devices |
| 13:07.38 | mrdata | x29a: befor come ENDM STKP C19F3FF9 must be other stuff, this could be helpful |
| 13:09.34 | mrdata | x29a: your simpad should be right assambled together, the whole hardware, only the case is unimportant |
| 13:12.39 | x29a | before ENDM STKP C19F3FF9 is only a lot of hexnumbers |
| 13:12.55 | x29a | ill try to get the log working, but right now i dont get any serial output anymore |
| 13:13.07 | x29a | and yeah, ill attach all the cables for the next try |
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| 13:15.01 | mrdata | x29a: and control your flex cable connections of the boards for correct matching |
| 13:15.08 | x29a | mrdata: what does the connector do, which is above 18 and 8 on http://opensimpad.org/index.php/Image:SIMpad_small.jpg |
| 13:19.54 | mrdata | x29a: going lunch now, in 15 min i will be back, between 18 and 8 is nothing i can see, 18 must be loud-speacker |
| 13:20.41 | mrdata | x29a: and 8 is uart3 for dect-module or other things like bluetooth and mmc/sd stuff ;-) |
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| 13:24.56 | mr_nice | x29a: above 18 and 8 is the connector of the buttons and leds. |
| 13:27.20 | mr_nice | x29a: which is connected to cs3 latch and sa1100 gpio0 (only the power button) |
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| 13:51.20 | zecke | ~lart sound-juicer for being broken on feisty... |
| 13:51.20 | ibot | hereby declares sound-juicer a troll for being broken on feisty... |
| 13:52.18 | mrdata | x29a: lunch over |
| 13:52.40 | x29a | mrdata: i just returned, ill try now again with my simpad |
| 13:53.16 | mrdata | x29a: okay, i waiting for progress |
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| 14:00.22 | RP | morning all |
| 14:01.13 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r90c92673... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom-2007.1.conf: bump hx4700 and magician kernel version to 2.6.20-hh5 |
| 14:01.22 | pH5 | good morning RP |
| 14:02.30 | x29a | mrdata: all i now get on serial is Y |
| 14:02.30 | x29a | pardon |
| 14:02.30 | x29a | 'y' |
| 14:02.37 | x29a | when i reset and power up again, just another 'y' |
| 14:04.16 | mrdata | x29a: than the serial interface is not setup proberly, the initial setup is not completed |
| 14:04.25 | koen | hey RP |
| 14:04.58 | hrw | hi |
| 14:05.40 | mrdata | x29a: what have you changed between your lot of hexnumber outputs and now |
| 14:07.10 | x29a | i read 262144 bytes via jtag to verify consistency |
| 14:07.10 | x29a | now i reflashed yout bootldr again, to set the flash into same state as before |
| 14:07.11 | mrdata | x29a: the hexnumbers has tell you, that initial setup was okay |
| 14:07.11 | x29a | oh, but why did it not go any further? |
| 14:07.11 | mrdata | x29a: this is a good idea |
| 14:07.14 | x29a | a good question? |
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| 14:08.09 | mrdata | x29a: after the C19F3FF0 the next step is looking for the right flash |
| 14:08.43 | x29a | and that did obviously not happen |
| 14:09.33 | x29a | sodo you think it might be the ram? |
| 14:09.37 | mrdata | x29a: yes, the bootloader do probe, witch flash is there, witch geometry, size, organisation, how many banks |
| 14:10.00 | x29a | u mean flash (where bootloader sits) or ram? |
| 14:10.25 | mrdata | x29a: no, the flash must be found from bootloader |
| 14:11.46 | mrdata | x29a: first flash with bootloader, copy to ram, start from there, search for components on board |
| 14:12.45 | mrdata | x29a: the bootloader have not know, witch hardware is present, so he must try and test |
| 14:13.36 | mrdata | x29a: the ooh-bootloader knows also other machines |
| 14:14.07 | mrdata | x29a: but must find the right one, witch is present |
| 14:17.06 | x29a | mrdata: http://rafb.net/p/OHZWtD31.html |
| 14:19.45 | x29a | how to procede? |
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| 14:22.55 | RP | pH5: Have you committed the epoch changes the OE metadata needed or not yet? |
| 14:23.59 | pH5 | RP: they are committed (both ipk and deb packages include epoch information now). |
| 14:24.40 | RP | pH5: ok. I'll look at adding epoch support to bitbake 1.8.x when I get a moment |
| 14:25.08 | pH5 | RP: great. it seems to work just fine. |
| 14:25.27 | RP | pH5: Great. It should clean up the X11RX files quite nicely :) |
| 14:27.54 | mrdata | x29a: on top of your list i have by me four exta lines: U3 @00000348 F04000000 and one empty |
| 14:28.06 | x29a | oh, right |
| 14:28.08 | koen | is OE going to require bitbake 1.8.1 at that point? |
| 14:28.19 | x29a | mrdata: i forgot to copy those as well |
| 14:28.28 | x29a | mrdata: U3 |
| 14:28.29 | x29a | @00000348 |
| 14:28.29 | x29a | F04000000 |
| 14:28.33 | mrdata | x29a: ah, okay |
| 14:28.44 | x29a | and now? |
| 14:28.51 | x29a | im totally clueless |
| 14:29.16 | mrdata | x29a: no, no, we have a simpad with serial messages to us |
| 14:29.29 | RP | koen: We'll have to consider requireing 1.8.2 (next stable release) although we have the omoko guys to consider |
| 14:29.30 | x29a | i think thats good ;) |
| 14:29.55 | x29a | mrdata: wonna switch to query/different channel for further discussion? |
| 14:30.04 | koen | RP: the OM people are using a fixed rev anyway |
| 14:30.34 | hrw | koen: and they plan to update OE during next month |
| 14:30.50 | koen | hrw: so they can update bitbake at the same time |
| 14:31.54 | hrw | probably |
| 14:31.56 | mrdata | x29a: so witch channel would you prefer |
| 14:32.24 | hrw | someone use gtk-webcore 20060212 or everybody use 20050430? |
| 14:32.33 | mr_nice | x29a: I think it would be nice to have the conversation logged. It could help others. |
| 14:32.35 | x29a | mrdata: i dont care, if you want to stay here im fine (for the bot and logs) but not that we interfere with hrw and koen |
| 14:33.03 | x29a | mr_nice: yeah, that was my thought as well, we could switch over to #handhelds.org or #familiar since theres not much goin on |
| 14:33.27 | hrw | x29a: or create #simpad channel? |
| 14:33.31 | RP | koen: Lets wait and see for now - there isn't an immediate problem. There are some other task dependency changes I think we'll have to make to OE.dev which will need 1.8,2 though... |
| 14:33.38 | x29a | hrw: can we request a bot? |
| 14:33.48 | hrw | x29a: no idea but probably |
| 14:33.56 | RP | The infamous quilt-native vs. do_patch problem... |
| 14:34.08 | x29a | #simpad actually existed |
| 14:34.26 | koen | hrw: people using gcc4 need 20060212 |
| 14:34.44 | mrdata | x29a: that is okay, i will not disturb the work there |
| 14:34.44 | koen | hrw: is OZ going to have a new release or not? |
| 14:34.46 | hrw | koen: but does it change functionality? |
| 14:34.57 | koen | hrw: I need to know that for the angstrom release planning |
| 14:35.12 | hrw | koen: good question. |
| 14:35.22 | hrw | koen: I want to give 3.5.5 for collie/2.4 atleast |
| 14:35.36 | hrw | koen: I do not like idea of angstrom-2.4-legacy |
| 14:35.37 | koen | not using angstrom-legacy? |
| 14:36.07 | hrw | koen: do you want to support people which will have legacy machines and will try to install stuff from !legacy feeds? |
| 14:36.24 | hrw | koen: and users want OPIE images |
| 14:36.26 | koen | personally I don't want to support anything |
| 14:36.51 | zecke | hrw: Users want Opie II images :) |
| 14:37.11 | hrw | zecke: do not make me laugh ok? |
| 14:37.28 | zecke | hrw: laughing is healthy |
| 14:37.32 | hrw | zecke: but thx for remind. I have to resign from that project |
| 14:38.37 | hrw | resigned |
| 14:39.00 | hrw | koen: so who will support angstrom? users? |
| 14:39.02 | hrw | ~users |
| 14:39.03 | ibot | so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony> |
| 14:40.06 | koen | hrw: ideally, yes |
| 14:44.41 | mwester | s/accuses/accusations/ |
| 14:46.18 | zecke | ERROR: Exception:exceptions.IOError Message:[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/oe/autobuild/trees/incremental/oe/packages/uboot/files/./uboot-20070311-tools_makefile_ln_sf.patch' |
| 14:46.29 | zecke | hmm where to place the try/catch to solve this... |
| 14:48.54 | hrw | zecke: mtn pull |
| 14:48.58 | hrw | or svn update even |
| 14:49.27 | zecke | hrw: yes, this was just fixed. Still BitBake did not except that -> broken Autobuild |
| 14:50.26 | hrw | pH5: NOTE: preferred version 7.0.10 of xproto-native not available (for item xproto-native) |
| 14:51.45 | hrw | pH5: xdpyinfo from 7.2 is lacking too |
| 14:53.39 | pH5 | hrw: thanks, fixing now |
| 14:54.20 | hrw | many protos are 7.0/7.1 |
| 14:54.31 | pH5 | hrw: many protos were not updated |
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| 14:54.47 | hrw | ok |
| 14:55.13 | hrw | no plans to copy them as epoch ones? |
| 14:56.01 | pH5 | hrw: I didn't want to introduce unneeded changes. |
| 14:56.03 | pH5 | Do you think we should do that for cosmetic reasons? |
| 14:56.39 | hrw | rather not |
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| 14:58.24 | pH5 | oops, actually xdpyinfo 1.0.2 was post-X11R7.2 |
| 14:58.35 | hrw | cu |
| 14:58.57 | CIA-11 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r2b9fbd2b... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-app/xdpyinfo_1.0.2.bb): xdpyinfo: add 1.0.2 (X11R7.2) |
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| 15:09.36 | koen | hey mickey|brunswick |
| 15:09.45 | koen | mickey|brunswick: say hi to the others for me :) |
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| 15:15.52 | sirfred | Hello |
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| 15:37.09 | chouimat | morning |
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| 15:59.26 | CIA-11 | classes/patch.bbclass: Make sure to raise func_failed on any exception from within Import |
| 15:59.26 | CIA-11 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:14.51 | RP | zecke: Does do_package_qa need pax-utils-native in insane.bbclass ? |
| 16:15.29 | RP | ah, its a PACKAGEFUNCS :/ |
| 16:15.32 | RP | ignore me... |
| 16:16.15 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.59 | zecke | RP: BTW: did you take a look at the memory leak bug report? |
| 16:18.33 | zecke | RP: (I just remembered it) do you know if we generally leak or if we hit a recursion that allocates more memory before the stack the full? |
| 16:18.56 | RP | zecke: I glanced at it, I don't think its a general problem |
| 16:19.25 | chouimat | maybe I don't understand but I think there is something wrong with this picture: db->dbus->"network protocol converter"->dbus->application (language independence) |
| 16:19.51 | chouimat | hi zecke RP |
| 16:19.57 | zecke | hi chouimat |
| 16:20.11 | RP | hi chouimat |
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| 16:55.23 | CIA-11 | 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * ra664968f... 10/ (1 packages/efl/edje-native_0.5.0.037.bb): edje-native: make sure to use the right edje-config |
| 17:07.59 | mickey|brunswick | koen: ping |
| 17:08.14 | mickey|brunswick | koen: do you remember the mtdblock/rootfs thingy? |
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| 17:10.08 | koen | mickey|brunswick: yes |
| 17:11.32 | koen | mickey|brunswick: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-February/001490.html ? |
| 17:11.51 | mickey|brunswick | thank you |
| 17:11.54 | mickey|brunswick | do you have any idea for |
| 17:12.00 | mickey|brunswick | !ombug 253 |
| 17:12.01 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 253, Status: NEW, Created: Unknown |
| 17:12.02 | mickey|brunswick | ? |
| 17:12.02 | cdbot2 | * * oe(AT)hentges.net: Typo in /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh prohibits correct processing /etc/fstab |
| 17:12.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=253 |
| 17:13.48 | koen | I'd replace $(....) with `...` |
| 17:15.03 | koen | mickey|brunswick: hmm |
| 17:15.14 | koen | mickey|brunswick: I suspect the grep returns nothing |
| 17:15.17 | mickey|brunswick | adding " around the $(...)" helps also, however i dunno whether this is correct |
| 17:15.34 | mickey|brunswick | i wonder why this hasn't been noticed yet |
| 17:15.35 | koen | mickey|brunswick: x$(..) = "xrw" ? |
| 17:15.39 | mickey|brunswick | it's the same in OE |
| 17:15.54 | koen | mickey|brunswick: I noticed it, but I though it was because I am using bash instead of busybox |
| 17:16.50 | mickey|brunswick | x$ = xrw fixes it also |
| 17:17.01 | mickey|brunswick | however I'm still not sure whether this is functioning correctly |
| 17:17.06 | mickey|brunswick | this script is insane |
| 17:17.09 | koen | mickey|brunswick: http://www.monkey.org/openbsd/archive/misc/0407/msg00784.html |
| 17:17.49 | CoreDump|afk | koen: exactly |
| 17:18.07 | CoreDump|afk | not double-quoting variables in sh asks for trouble |
| 17:18.16 | koen | I always assume that 'old' stuff is correct in OE |
| 17:18.21 | mickey|brunswick | heh |
| 17:18.22 | mickey|brunswick | don't |
| 17:18.34 | koen | but lately it turns out people papered over bugs |
| 17:18.43 | koen | e.g. not packaging libgcc for gcc non-cross |
| 17:18.56 | mickey|brunswick | so the preferred way to fix this is? |
| 17:19.04 | mickey|brunswick | x or add " around the $() |
| 17:19.30 | koen | double quotes + x, commit to OE |
| 17:19.41 | CoreDump|afk | mickey|brunswick: I'd use double-quotes but that's just me |
| 17:20.05 | CoreDump|afk | koen: the x is kinda overkill when you already use double-quotes =) |
| 17:20.12 | mickey|brunswick | hmm, /me tries |
| 17:20.18 | koen | CoreDump|afk: it is |
| 17:20.32 | koen | but it marks it as 'can be empty' a bit more |
| 17:25.35 | koen | mickey|brunswick: HXD8 is the hardware refresh for p2? |
| 17:28.16 | mickey|brunswick | no |
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| 17:35.10 | koen | mickey|brunswick: any hint on what it is? |
| 17:35.26 | mickey|brunswick | not a phone |
| 17:35.53 | koen | hmm |
| 17:35.55 | mickey|brunswick | ok, double quoting fixes this bug however, /var still doesn't get mounted |
| 17:35.57 | mickey|brunswick | now it fails with |
| 17:36.03 | mickey|brunswick | "mount: /proc busy" |
| 17:36.06 | koen | the uboot patches say it has gsm and gps :) |
| 17:36.54 | stefan_schmidt | koen: patches never lie... |
| 17:44.06 | mickey|brunswick | hmm |
| 17:44.23 | mickey|brunswick | can anyone confirm this to be a problem on another OE supported machine as well? |
| 17:44.34 | koen | mickey|brunswick: I already did that :) |
| 17:44.54 | koen | mickey|brunswick: that's why I said you should commit the fix to OE :) |
| 17:46.48 | mickey|brunswick | well |
| 17:46.55 | mickey|brunswick | it doesn't fix the situation here |
| 17:47.05 | mickey|brunswick | can you confirm the "proc: busy" as well=? |
| 17:47.10 | mickey|brunswick | [after the fix] |
| 17:48.00 | koen | let me build a new kernel for the hx first |
| 17:48.17 | mickey|brunswick | oki |
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| 17:55.39 | mickey|brunswick | can we find a log of checkroot.sh? |
| 17:56.11 | zecke | bkbits.net |
| 17:56.52 | mickey|brunswick | eeks |
| 17:56.55 | mickey|brunswick | ancient |
| 17:56.58 | koen | mtn annotate + mtn log ? |
| 17:57.01 | mickey|brunswick | but might be helpful |
| 17:58.13 | koen | mickey|brunswick: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/checkroot-annotated.txt |
| 17:58.37 | koen | zecke: and no, I didn't write OE in one day |
| 17:58.43 | zecke | hehe |
| 17:58.46 | CoreDump|afk | =) |
| 17:58.54 | zecke | mickey|brunswick: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/file/checkroot.sh/?items=100 |
| 18:02.52 | mickey|brunswick | hmm |
| 18:02.55 | mickey|brunswick | can i see the diffs? |
| 18:04.38 | zecke | mickey|brunswick: not (yet), only using viewmtn |
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| 18:13.38 | mickey|brunswick | even using another checkroot.sh doesn't make |
| 18:13.47 | mickey|brunswick | mount: mounting proc on /proc: device or resource busy |
| 18:13.52 | mickey|brunswick | go away :/ |
| 18:14.25 | koen | mickey|brunswick: is proc already mounted? |
| 18:16.38 | CoreDump|afk | mount sys and proc mount in checkroot should check if sys and proc are already mounted IMO |
| 18:17.06 | koen | I think we can all agree on that |
| 18:18.44 | mickey|brunswick | the main problem is that mount doesn't continue |
| 18:18.50 | mickey|brunswick | it encounters the error w/ proc |
| 18:18.57 | mickey|brunswick | then doesn't mount the others |
| 18:19.01 | mickey|brunswick | i need to issue mount -a |
| 18:19.04 | mickey|brunswick | to get /var mounted |
| 18:19.51 | CoreDump|afk | right |
| 18:20.06 | mickey|brunswick | so my question |
| 18:20.09 | mickey|brunswick | did mount change in behaviour |
| 18:20.16 | koen | mickey|brunswick: what will happen in 2008? will FIC rename their svn tree? |
| 18:20.17 | mickey|brunswick | or how did we introduce this bug |
| 18:20.33 | mickey|brunswick | koen: no idea, i don't think that far :D |
| 18:20.59 | Ifaistos | mickey|brunswick : busybox mount is broken |
| 18:21.11 | mickey|brunswick | since when? |
| 18:21.15 | koen | that's why angstrom uses proper mount |
| 18:21.16 | CoreDump|afk | mickey|brunswick: I'm not seeing a mount -a in checkroot.sh... |
| 18:21.28 | mickey|brunswick | i really can't remember this to being a problem the last couple of years |
| 18:21.37 | mickey|brunswick | CoreDump|afk: was that there once? |
| 18:21.52 | CoreDump|afk | actually busybox mount supports "mount -o move" _WAY_ better than the real mount |
| 18:22.15 | CoreDump|afk | mickey|brunswick: well I dunno, but why should the busy proc mount affect other scripts then? |
| 18:22.24 | RP | zecke: Does the parser support the idea of do_package[depends] += "file-native" ? |
| 18:23.36 | mickey|brunswick | koen: so using the full mount cures it? |
| 18:24.12 | CoreDump|afk | if that were the case, we would see the same bug on OZ |
| 18:24.25 | zecke | RP: it could :) |
| 18:24.35 | CoreDump|afk | anyone running OZ from .dev here who could check? |
| 18:26.15 | RP | zecke: Would it be simple to do? I have use case :) |
| 18:26.31 | CoreDump|afk | mickey|brunswick: /proc is indeed already mounted after the "busy" message so that shouldn't affect other scripts |
| 18:26.53 | mickey|brunswick | ok |
| 18:26.58 | mickey|brunswick | so the bug is somewhere else |
| 18:27.05 | koen | mickey|brunswick: proper gives less problems in other areas |
| 18:27.11 | zecke | old parser == linux2.4 but I'm a whore :) |
| 18:28.20 | zecke | RP: but it should just work |
| 18:28.30 | zecke | RP: it is an append to a flag... |
| 18:28.44 | zecke | RP: and what is the usecase? |
| 18:30.04 | RP | zecke: I want to add a "depends" flag to tasks which takes the form do_patch[depends] = "quilt-native:do_populate_staging". In the package classes, we need to append to that for say insane'.bbclass's pax-utils-native dependencies |
| 18:30.28 | RP | zecke: and I don't think it just works :-( |
| 18:31.40 | mickey|brunswick | hmm |
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| 18:31.51 | mickey|brunswick | wth does mount -at nonfs,nonfoo,nonbar do? |
| 18:32.14 | koen | mount everything _except_ nfs foo bar filesystems |
| 18:32.24 | koen | (e.g. networking isn't up yet) |
| 18:32.27 | chouimat | zecke: you mean you apply this? http://clipgallery.blogspot.com/2007/01/truth-about-working-in-it-industry.html |
| 18:32.40 | mickey|brunswick | ah |
| 18:32.43 | mickey|brunswick | this command does not work |
| 18:32.47 | mickey|brunswick | it just doesn't mount /var |
| 18:33.05 | zecke | chouimat: I know, but I think an average prostitute earns more :) |
| 18:33.25 | chouimat | zecke: a lot more ... |
| 18:33.28 | mickey|brunswick | ok, i got it |
| 18:33.34 | mickey|brunswick | mount -at whatever doesn't work in busybox |
| 18:33.48 | CoreDump|afk | that should be fixed =) |
| 18:33.54 | mickey|brunswick | so now to found out why did this work in earlier versions |
| 18:34.00 | mickey|brunswick | or didn't it? |
| 18:34.12 | zecke | chouimat: and I don't agree with 10 |
| 18:34.29 | zecke | RP: well, can I test this with BitBake1.8? |
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| 18:35.16 | koen | mickey|brunswick: busybox mount got rewritten multiple times |
| 18:36.31 | chouimat | zecke: go work for xandros ... after 3 months you will agree with this one :) |
| 18:37.56 | koen | grrrr, this efika build is taking ages |
| 18:38.05 | RP | zecke: Yes, place this in package.bbclass:do_package[depends] = "file-native:do_populate_staging" |
| 18:38.05 | RP | do_package[depends] += "fakeroot-native:do_populate_staging" |
| 18:38.37 | RP | zecke: and then add a print statement to add_task in build.py which prints the depends varflag |
| 18:39.00 | RP | zecke: The result is a puzzling: base_do_package |
| 18:39.00 | RP | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.49 | mickey|brunswick | !oebug 1529 |
| 18:40.50 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1529, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-10-25 10:28 |
| 18:40.51 | cdbot2 | * * christopher.lang(AT)chl-informatik.de: mountall.sh does not mount tmpfs filesystems |
| 18:40.52 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1529 |
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| 18:42.23 | Ifaistos | mickey|brunswick : not sure that it ever worked correctly |
| 18:42.40 | zecke | RP: give me another half an hour |
| 18:42.55 | Ifaistos | mickey|brunswick : i think there was a bug on this |
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| 18:51.34 | mickey|brunswick | ok, thanks guys |
| 18:51.37 | mickey|brunswick | at least i found it |
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| 18:55.01 | RP | zecke: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bb-flag-appends.patch might even be a fix. See if you think its safe to commit ;-) |
| 19:01.18 | zecke | RP: is safe :) |
| 19:04.58 | Ifaistos | night everyone |
| 19:06.26 | zecke | koen|away: ping? |
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| 19:07.12 | CIA-11 | qa/checksum: Add python code to verify a sha256,md5sum |
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| 19:12.07 | CIA-11 | linux-handhelds-2.6: hx4700 defconfig update |
| 19:12.08 | CIA-11 | - compile in common battery drivers instead of hx4700_power |
| 19:12.08 | CIA-11 | - use common touchscreen drivers instead of hx4700_ts |
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| 20:33.37 | CIA-11 | classes/base.bbclass: Add checksum.py code to verify md5/sha256 sums on do_fetch |
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| 20:33.42 | CIA-11 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rf8de7adf... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass conf/checksums.ini): |
| 20:33.44 | CIA-11 | classes/base.bbclass: Make the checksum code work and test it with file-native |
| 20:33.46 | CIA-11 | conf/checksums.ini: Provide an example on how this can be used |
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| 20:39.57 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: nunome still fails for various settings (always started with clean tmp). I am going nuts. Why won't this compile for me? |
| 20:39.57 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: http://rafb.net/p/ejhFTX26.html and http://rafb.net/p/ym59Gm74.html. |
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| 20:42.32 | Laibsch | I will test for angstrom-2007.1 without oabi. That seems to be the only difference. Did you follow http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom ? |
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| 20:44.55 | florian | hi all |
| 20:45.12 | gremlin[it] | hi florian |
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| 21:21.58 | sirfred | Good night |
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| 21:32.55 | ggilbert | anyone have a packages repository in front of them? |
| 21:33.56 | zecke | no, nothing in reach |
| 21:34.03 | zecke | ggilbert: hw |
| 21:34.08 | zecke | ggilbert: how are you? |
| 21:34.13 | mwester | I have a package of Girl Scout cookies? |
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| 21:34.46 | ggilbert | zecke: Heya |
| 21:34.49 | ggilbert | Doing pretty good |
| 21:35.55 | zecke | nice :) |
| 21:38.26 | RP | ggilbert: You mean a tmp/deploy/ipk directory? |
| 21:39.29 | zecke | RP: the patch looked sane, I only wonedered about the != None. I see it was copy and pasted from below |
| 21:39.35 | ggilbert | RP: actually I'm just wondering what the default OE_MIRROR setting is, since I'm still seeing them hitting the treke.net domain :) |
| 21:39.47 | ggilbert | which I thought I'd changed years ago |
| 21:39.53 | RP | zecke: I wondered about that too but as you note, it was copied |
| 21:40.04 | zecke | RP: but this way if we append to a non existing flag we will get the initial value from the original var |
| 21:40.18 | RP | zecke: I think I'll commit and see if we get any complains ;-) |
| 21:40.25 | ggilbert | also, since I'm here. Anything in particular needed bugzilla wise? |
| 21:40.31 | zecke | RP: and this is something we might not want to have :} |
| 21:40.49 | RP | zecke: ah, good point |
| 21:41.31 | zecke | ggilbert: it seems to work and I think the bits I want to have tweaeked can be changed by koen |
| 21:42.07 | zecke | ggilbert: sometimes people manage to make bugs BitBake specific and this way bugs can't be publically viewed |
| 21:42.09 | RP | ggilbert: treke.net or oesources.org? |
| 21:42.16 | ggilbert | RP: I'm seeing them hitting treke.net |
| 21:42.27 | ggilbert | I wonder if someone is just distributing an ancient packages directory |
| 21:42.44 | ggilbert | Not a big deal, just amuses me whenever I hit the logs |
| 21:43.03 | zecke | hehe |
| 21:43.04 | RP | ggilbert: A quick grep of the OE tree shows no reference to treke.net |
| 21:43.14 | ggilbert | Must be something ancient |
| 21:43.23 | ggilbert | someone still building 3.3 or something :) |
| 21:43.27 | mwester | When did this change occur? |
| 21:43.44 | ggilbert | mwester: Uh if I had to guess I'd say 2004 or 2005 |
| 21:44.05 | mwester | Ah ok, that would predate the tarball for Openslug 3.10 |
| 21:44.12 | ggilbert | probably |
| 21:44.43 | ggilbert | September of 2004 sounds right |
| 21:47.32 | RP | zecke: Reading this code, I'm not sure you would append to the standard variable if the flag didn't exist? |
| 21:48.22 | zecke | RP: I have not read this part (it wasn't in your context). I assume we will set the var flag |
| 21:48.40 | zecke | RP: but start with the initial value of the var for the flag |
| 21:49.10 | zecke | RP: e.g. I would remove the != None and return VarFlag or "" as initial value, but I don't know :) |
| 21:50.32 | RP | zecke: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bb-flag-appends.context |
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| 21:51.04 | RP | zecke: See if the context changes your mind or not :} |
| 21:52.21 | zecke | ah right groupd is from our regex |
| 21:52.46 | zecke | it is just the flag name.... |
| 21:52.54 | zecke | F[] = f |
| 21:53.03 | zecke | will assign f to Var F |
| 21:53.48 | RP | but that is arguably correct? |
| 21:54.22 | zecke | historically correct |
| 21:54.31 | RP | :} |
| 21:58.21 | zecke | commit and we might see what is going to break |
| 21:59.39 | RP | zecke: ok :) |
| 22:00.31 | zecke | I just hired at M$ :} |
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| 22:01.08 | CIA-11 | 03rpurdie * r803 10bitbake/ (ChangeLog lib/bb/parse/parse_py/ConfHandler.py): ConfHandler.py: Allow operations other than assignment on flag variables |
| 22:01.49 | RP | zecke: You're working for M$? |
| 22:02.16 | zecke | RP: oh well, It is 1st of april and I felt like... |
| 22:02.45 | RP | zecke: Still 11pm here ;-) |
| 22:03.19 | RP | Nothing would surprise me atm :/ |
| 22:05.24 | zecke | RP: oh? |
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| 22:56.16 | RP | zecke: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/oe-depends-fixes.patch is how I'm thinking of resolving the current dependency issues... |
| 22:56.38 | RP | zecke: An upgrade path could prove tricky :/ |
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| 22:58.52 | zecke | RP: why tricky? |
| 22:58.57 | zecke | RP: as we will require 1.8? |
| 22:59.22 | RP | zecke: True. I guess we just wait until we require 1.8, then check this in... |
| 23:03.40 | zecke | :) |
| 23:03.41 | RP | zecke: Why not just have the URI in the checksums ini file? |
| 23:04.04 | zecke | RP: good thinking :) |
| 23:04.26 | zecke | you made me realize that the scoping is not needed at all and the same URI should have the same sum :) |
| 23:04.37 | RP | right :) |
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| 23:14.40 | zecke | RP: please bitch ross and say sound juicer is awfully broken in feisty :) |
| 23:14.58 | zecke | (actually I think this is something gnome specific though) |
| 23:15.35 | RP | zecke: Hes offline at the moment but next time I see him... :) |
| 23:16.19 | zecke | RP: there is no way to rip to OGG and if you want to edit audio profiles the dialog is blocked (no user input is possible) |
| 23:24.02 | zecke | ~lart xlocale |
| 23:24.02 | ibot | throws xlocale's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 23:24.18 | zecke | good night |
| 23:25.26 | RP | 'night zecke |
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| 23:31.09 | CIA-11 | 03rpurdie * r804 10bitbake/ (ChangeLog lib/bb/runqueue.py lib/bb/taskdata.py): taskdata/runqueue.py: Add code to handle inter-task dependencies |
| 23:44.07 | RP | 'night all |
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| 23:56.35 | jacques | :-O |
| 23:58.18 | rwhitby | jacques: koen|away said that there is untested EABI BE support. So I'm testing to see if it at least compiles (it didn't last time I tried). |
