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| 00:25.05 | RP | NAiL: The LED subsystem itself doesn't care. If you can write a driver, you can connect it to the subsystem, even if you have to use a wait queue |
| 00:25.23 | NAiL | ah |
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| 07:07.39 | Ifaistos | morning all |
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| 08:29.44 | florian | good morning |
| 08:30.14 | hrw | morning |
| 08:31.40 | Ifaistos | hi florian, hrw |
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| 09:35.28 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd77e6932... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): openmoko-session: start dialer so people can receive phonecalls by default :) |
| 09:35.40 | zecke | hehe |
| 09:35.58 | zecke | koen|away: this makes OpenMoko as bad as Windows Mobile ;) |
| 09:36.05 | zecke | koen|away: I want to enter my PIN, not more... |
| 09:36.25 | koen | zecke: there's an openmoko pin dialog??!?! |
| 09:37.30 | zecke | koen: might be wise to create one |
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| 09:41.39 | hrw | adding IM selector to panel would be wise too |
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| 09:48.43 | schurig | koen: gcc-cross_4.1.2.bb doesn't install libstdc++.so.6 into staging |
| 09:48.56 | koen | schurig: weird |
| 09:49.16 | schurig | when I compile a C++ program, I get this error: |
| 09:49.46 | schurig | it's in tmp/staging/gcc-cross-4.1.2-r0/install/libstdc++/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.8 |
| 09:50.12 | florian | wtf |
| 09:50.32 | florian | I get ": line 229: storcenter-image_do_configure: command not found" building gmp-native |
| 09:50.51 | schurig | koen: and it is (correctly) packages into the libstdc++ ipk |
| 09:50.55 | koen | florian: ask NAiL |
| 09:51.05 | schurig | koen: do you have it in your tmp/staging? |
| 09:51.11 | florian | NAiL: you are guilty? |
| 09:54.17 | koen | schurig: I also build gcc (non-cross), so it is there |
| 09:54.55 | schurig | koen: I've never build a non-cross yet, I don't intend to compile on a slow 400 MHz machine :-) |
| 09:55.45 | schurig | koen: what in packages/gcc/* is responsible for installing libstdc++? I haven't so far found any reference to it that installs it in staging. Or is it in a .bbclass? |
| 09:56.08 | koen | schurig: I suspect gcc-package-cross.inc |
| 09:56.36 | schurig | koen: that doesn't even have a do_stage ... |
| 09:56.49 | koen | hmmm |
| 09:56.55 | koen | maybe cross.bbclass? |
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| 10:02.15 | schurig | my log.do_stage shows that is has been installed into tmp/cross/arm-linux/lib |
| 10:02.32 | schurig | and it's indeed an ARM object file |
| 10:03.12 | schurig | koen: should I try to install it in tmp/cross and tmp/staging? Or should I fiddle with my Makefile to -Ltmp/cross/... ?? |
| 10:03.42 | bgeradz | Hi! Can someone explain, why kernel.bbclass is so selective in the do_stage step? wanted to build TrueCrypt, that needs ${K_STG_DIR}/drivers/md, and it's not in the kernel_do_stage() of the kernel.bbclass. |
| 10:04.17 | koen | schurig: no idea, the cross stuff is arcane |
| 10:04.29 | RP | schurig: I suspect the toolchain should automatically be looking in tmp/cross due to the spec file |
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| 10:08.32 | schurig | RP: hmm, there is no spec file. I just have a tmp/cross/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/3.3.4/specs from my gcc-cross-kernel |
| 10:12.02 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2197a306... 10/ (1 packages/images/openmoko-image.bb): openmoko-image: install a terminal, virtual keyboard and other stuff to make it useable |
| 10:12.22 | rob_w | how do i tell ipkg to use a local path for Packages.gz not http nor ftp ? |
| 10:12.40 | hrw | use file:// URL |
| 10:13.10 | RP | schurig: Strange, my local 4.1.1 doesn't have one either... |
| 10:14.09 | rob_w | hrw, thanks |
| 10:16.17 | rob_w | hrw, and what is the bb to build the packages index again ? |
| 10:18.55 | hrw | package-index |
| 10:19.10 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r448c7bd2... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-base/openmoko-icon-theme-standard_svn.bb): openmoko-icon-theme-standard: merge from openmoko svn |
| 10:23.03 | hrw | | /home/hrw/devel/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/dates-0.3.1-r1/temp/run.do_configure.12577: line 354: storcenter-image_do_configure: command not found |
| 10:23.07 | hrw | WTF?? |
| 10:23.38 | koen | hrw: ask NAiL |
| 10:27.38 | NAiL | wth? |
| 10:28.04 | NAiL | where does it pick up that? |
| 10:28.26 | hrw | bitbake dates |
| 10:28.48 | NAiL | huh? |
| 10:28.49 | hrw | NAiL: rm foonas-image == working |
| 10:29.02 | hrw | NAiL: I do not know why it happened |
| 10:31.08 | rob_w | i cant get a /dev/fb0 but i do have a output on my screen ,, do i need to link a different device to fb0 ?? this is a amdgx frambuffer board |
| 10:32.02 | koen | rob_w: cat /proc/fb |
| 10:32.15 | rob_w | koen, empty |
| 10:32.27 | koen | rob_w: then it isn't a framebuffer |
| 10:33.30 | NAiL | florian: I'm quite possibly guilty. Dunno yet though, because I've got no idea what happens. |
| 10:33.52 | NAiL | (And I'm not near my devbox, so right now I can't check either) |
| 10:34.19 | koen | it probably has something todo with the parsing error bitbake throws |
| 10:34.22 | florian | NAiL: ok, well... i can confirm it works if you remove the foonas-image.bb |
| 10:34.27 | rob_w | hmm i selected GX as frambuffer , i try GX1 now |
| 10:34.39 | NAiL | koen: what parsing error? |
| 10:34.50 | florian | rob_w: Netvista? ;) |
| 10:34.54 | hrw | NAiL: lack of storcenter*bbclass |
| 10:35.01 | NAiL | oh |
| 10:36.45 | NAiL | Can someone sync and tell me if it works now? |
| 10:36.58 | NAiL | The file was in my local repo. I forgot to add it. |
| 10:37.17 | CIA-11 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r02a6624c... 10/ (1 classes/storcenter-image.bbclass): storcenter: Add storcenter-image.bbclass |
| 10:37.46 | rob_w | florian, no , new boards |
| 10:37.52 | florian | as soon as the compiler is ready... |
| 10:37.56 | rob_w | florian, amd gx |
| 10:41.39 | rob_w | hmm i cat get the fb to see |
| 10:42.31 | rob_w | should i try xserver-kdrive-vesa ? |
| 10:43.56 | rob_w | ah that vesa gives me a pic |
| 10:45.52 | hrw | NAiL: now it works |
| 10:45.56 | hrw | NAiL: thx |
| 10:46.28 | NAiL | hrw: np, thanks for letting me know |
| 10:52.18 | philippe | yay. I already wondered where that storcenter stuff came from. I had the same problem yesterday doing an openmoko build |
| 10:54.04 | XorA | morninb |
| 10:59.08 | hrw | hi XorA |
| 11:00.03 | rob_w | arg "No fonts found" |
| 11:00.55 | XorA | rob_w: the ultimate text rendering optimisation |
| 11:03.20 | rob_w | well |
| 11:04.49 | koen | hey XorA |
| 11:10.14 | XorA | bloody audio |
| 11:11.43 | XorA | NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime (how much more obvious could that message be?) |
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| 11:16.14 | slapin_nb | hi, all! |
| 11:16.14 | slapin_nb | koen, ping |
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| 11:17.35 | rob_w | strange ive Xvesa running but it toogles to restart it when i launch a x app |
| 11:20.33 | florian | NAiL: looks good so far.. thanks |
| 11:20.50 | florian | rob_w: does XFbdev work? |
| 11:21.14 | rob_w | no /dev/fb0 |
| 11:21.28 | rob_w | brb |
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| 11:39.03 | florian | XorA: "Industrial music" == /dev/urandom? ;) |
| 11:39.20 | XorA | florian: yeah that kind of thing :-) |
| 11:41.15 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfef7c2b7... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): |
| 11:41.15 | CIA-11 | angstrom: bump some versions |
| 11:41.15 | CIA-11 | apparently "NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime gdk-pixbuf-loader-png" is not clear enough, any suggestions for a better message? |
| 11:41.19 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra2feb55d... 10/ (58 files in 5 dirs): gtk: remove 2.10.x cruft |
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| 11:47.29 | bgeradz | kinda offtopic, xorg-xserver build on angstrom does not serve X client connections via network. Anyone knows the fast way to enable them? |
| 11:49.02 | koen | bgeradz: remove -nolisten tcp from the startup script |
| 11:51.06 | bgeradz | thx! |
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| 12:08.22 | bgeradz | koen: can't find 'nolisten' throughout the whole filesystem. Any other idea? |
| 12:08.51 | koen | bgeradz: sadly not |
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| 12:14.56 | furlongm | is there a daemontools alternative that anyone uses in oe? |
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| 12:15.23 | koen | rwhitby: good morning! |
| 12:15.25 | philippe | furlongm: daemontools like the cd emulator thingy? |
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| 12:16.43 | furlongm | philippe: no, daemontools as in the djb service manager |
| 12:16.57 | furlongm | or like runit |
| 12:17.09 | CIA-11 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r96c89697... 10/ (1 packages/mysql/mysql-native_4.1.18.bb): |
| 12:17.09 | CIA-11 | packages/mysql/mysql-native_4.1.18.bb: Make sure mysql-native does a full install in staging as php-native now builds |
| 12:17.09 | CIA-11 | with mysql support |
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| 12:17.16 | philippe | furlongm: hmm, don't know anything about that |
| 12:18.03 | schurig | RP: hmm, weird. It was kind of a false alarm. gcc-4.1.2 DOES use the libstdc++ from tmp/cross/... |
| 12:18.22 | zecke | furlongm: no idea |
| 12:18.47 | schurig | RP: it was that my qmake-generated Makefile had -lsupc++ and not -lstdc++ So my real problem is "why does it suddenly need the full stdc++ library?" |
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| 12:19.56 | schurig | furlongm: some of the new sysvinit replacement tools have a simular feature set, but AFAIK no one uses them in OE |
| 12:20.58 | schurig | furlongm: i think both init-ng and upstart (which I like better) have features like daemontools ... but then again, I never used daemontools |
| 12:22.46 | furlongm | schurig: thanks, neither seem to be in OE though |
| 12:23.16 | furlongm | runit claims to be a daemontools/sysvinit replacement -> http://smarden.org/runit/index.html |
| 12:23.50 | furlongm | it has inherited the horrible Makefile/shellscript build system from daemontools though |
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| 12:31.48 | Crofton|laptop | koen, any idea if OE will really get some DV boards? |
| 12:32.06 | rob_w | florian, what reason could there be to not get a real /dev/fb0 on a AMD Geode ? any ideas ? |
| 12:32.35 | koen | Crofton|laptop: we'll have to wait for the new DV OSK to get released |
| 12:32.53 | Crofton|laptop | hmm, when will that happen? |
| 12:33.14 | florian | rob_w: i can imagine... does the kernel detect any framebuffer devices? |
| 12:33.37 | rob_w | a i found that i fucked up defconfig .. now it will work |
| 12:33.41 | koen | Crofton|laptop: if you want to ask TI about it, send a mail to rishi@ti.com |
| 12:33.51 | Crofton|laptop | ok |
| 12:33.55 | koen | Crofton|laptop: You are our omap guy, so you can speak for the OE project :) |
| 12:34.01 | Crofton|laptop | ok :) |
| 12:34.16 | Crofton|laptop | I am supposed to get one of these also |
| 12:34.45 | koen | the DV OSK will be 'low cost' ($1500) |
| 12:34.56 | Crofton|laptop | http://www.lyrtech.com/DSP-development/dsp_fpga/sffsdrdevelopmentplatform.php |
| 12:35.08 | Crofton|laptop | low cost is relative .. |
| 12:35.09 | koen | when I said that isn't 'low cost' in my book rishi said we could get boards sponsored |
| 12:35.38 | koen | it is kinda strange to have a 300MHz cpu tied to a 600MHz DSP |
| 12:35.48 | Crofton|laptop | yeah, we deliver tremendous value to them |
| 12:35.54 | Crofton|laptop | not really |
| 12:36.10 | Crofton|laptop | hang on ... |
| 12:38.08 | Crofton|laptop | http://insidedsp.com/ |
| 12:38.37 | Crofton|laptop | The DVEVM article has some relative CPU numbers during video mucking around |
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| 12:45.52 | rob_w | hmm still i dont get any fb device .. strange |
| 12:46.08 | koen | Crofton|laptop: I don't think TI is happy with that article |
| 12:46.21 | Crofton|laptop | why not? |
| 12:46.23 | koen | Crofton|laptop: rishi was pretty adamant about the DSP not being a 'black box' |
| 12:46.30 | koen | "It's not a ASIC!!" |
| 12:46.32 | Crofton|laptop | I skimmed on a plane yesterday |
| 12:46.38 | Crofton|laptop | ah |
| 12:46.40 | Crofton|laptop | ok |
| 12:46.50 | Crofton|laptop | from the DVEVM point of view it is :) |
| 12:47.29 | Crofton|laptop | they are trying to sell the codecs as black boxes |
| 12:47.42 | Crofton|laptop | so the pov of the article is their own fault :) |
| 12:48.00 | koen | the EVM ships with demo codecs |
| 12:48.04 | Crofton|laptop | yeah |
| 12:48.08 | koen | the codecs add watermarks and stuff |
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| 13:09.20 | hrw | python has .append() but does it have .remove()? |
| 13:09.50 | zecke|study | hrw: for? |
| 13:10.00 | hrw | needed[pkg].append(m1.group(1)) |
| 13:10.13 | hrw | I need to remove from needed[pkg] too |
| 13:11.22 | NAiL | btw, what's is there any speed/memoryuse differences between bb 1.6.x and 1.8? |
| 13:11.26 | vivijim | Hi all and koen, I'm trying to build a angstrom-console-image but it is failing because there is no longer the apt_0.6.46.2.tar.gz in debian repositories... What should I do in this case? add a new apt package to database? or sit and cry? hehehe |
| 13:11.37 | koen | hey vivijim ! |
| 13:11.51 | hrw | ~lart shlibs code |
| 13:12.51 | vivijim | hey koen, I forgot to ask you; did you like the recife summer festival? |
| 13:12.54 | hrw | http://www.mikroe.com/en/tools/unids3/ |
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| 13:14.05 | koen | vivijim: you can get the file from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/apt_0.6.46.2.tar.gz |
| 13:14.13 | koen | vivijim: the festival was very nice! |
| 13:14.22 | koen | vivijim: did you go on saterday? |
| 13:14.43 | vivijim | koen thanks! |
| 13:15.44 | vivijim | kone; yes, i went... It was very nice... there was only beautiful single girls ;) |
| 13:16.17 | XorA | vivijim: and no-one invited me :-D |
| 13:17.21 | koen | XorA: the girls also immediately went for the 2 white guys (marcel holtmann and me) |
| 13:17.50 | XorA | koen: gah, why am I never at these places |
| 13:18.04 | Crofton|laptop | koen, where they as good looking as the protestor? |
| 13:18.13 | koen | Crofton|laptop: yes |
| 13:18.15 | vivijim | XorA: hehehe come to brazil! there are a lot of parties like this ;) |
| 13:18.26 | Crofton|laptop | lucky bugger |
| 13:18.44 | Crofton|laptop | My friend watched an interview with her (in Portugeuse) many times |
| 13:18.53 | Crofton|laptop | "To practice his Portugeuse" |
| 13:20.23 | vivijim | Crofton|laptop: who is this protestor girl? |
| 13:20.23 | Crofton|laptop | She was protesting Bush in body paint |
| 13:20.41 | Crofton|laptop | My friend (who lived in Brazil as a child was obsessed for a few hours |
| 13:20.46 | gerwinin | Crofton: :) picture ? |
| 13:21.20 | gerwinin | Koen: Brasil has good looking reachable girls , the Netherlands as ugly unreachable girls :) |
| 13:21.23 | Crofton|laptop | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPGwstb_ODU |
| 13:22.08 | gerwinin | Crofton: lol |
| 13:25.03 | vivijim | hahahahahha I haven't seen this... Very interesting... |
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| 13:42.10 | hrw | zecke|study, RP, mickey|zzZZzz: http://pastebin.ca/405026 - can you look? |
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| 13:43.25 | gerwinin | Koen small question: "I want to load my image into the ramdisk how does that go ?" |
| 13:43.32 | hrw | hi gerwinin |
| 13:43.37 | gerwinin | hrw: hey |
| 13:43.43 | koen | hrw: blackinglisting shlibs? |
| 13:43.52 | koen | hrw: for dates/mozilla/etc ? |
| 13:44.21 | koen | gerwinin: usually the bootloader takes care of that |
| 13:44.41 | gerwinin | Koen: would grub be able to do such a thing ? |
| 13:44.46 | hrw | koen: if package consist library then it does not have to depend on it |
| 13:46.08 | koen | hrw: ah, even better |
| 13:47.48 | hrw | 14:40 hrw@home:openmoko$ dpkg-deb -I tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv4t/dates_0.3.1-r1_armv4t.ipk |grep openm Replaces: openmoko-dates Conflicts: openmoko-dates |
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| 13:54.33 | Jin^eLD | gerwinin: are you talking about initramfs? I did something similar yesterday |
| 13:55.38 | koen | hrw: cool |
| 13:55.45 | zecke|study | hrw: why do we need not needed? |
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| 13:58.51 | *** topic/#oe is OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | Web: http://www.openembedded.org | Bugtracker: bugs.openembedded.org | This is not a distro support channel | FOSDEM'07 was a huge success. Let's try to get a larger booth next year... |
| 13:58.51 | hrw | zecke|study: beause this is internal lib of (openmoko-)dates which is build related |
| 13:59.08 | koen | zecke|study: all mozilla stuff suffers from the same :( |
| 13:59.14 | hrw | no warranty that dates will work with libgtkdatesview.so from openmoko-dates |
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| 14:03.15 | hrw | zecke|study: what do you think about it? |
| 14:03.52 | zecke|study | hmm, let me think |
| 14:06.48 | zecke|study | hrw: fix upstream to properly name their libaries :) |
| 14:08.16 | XorA | hrw: mozilla can be fixed as libns* can all be seperated from apps, then built as a dependancy of apps |
| 14:08.33 | XorA | hrw: but I am sick of messing with mozilla builds with no joy due to the crapness of mozilla code |
| 14:08.46 | zecke|study | hrw: print notneeded for me in case of openmoko-dates |
| 14:09.02 | zecke|study | hrw: I wonder what m.group(1) really contains and if it needs to be per package |
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| 14:11.31 | hrw | zecke|study: code is same for both packages but can differ internally due to misc frameworks (gtk, hildon, openmoko) |
| 14:12.39 | zecke|study | hrw: a) make it a static library b) properly prefix the library name... |
| 14:12.48 | zecke|study | hrw: but how does notneeded look like in the dates case? |
| 14:14.09 | hrw | it contain libgtkdatesview for dates |
| 14:15.03 | zecke|study | hrw: { 'dates' : 'libgtkdatesview' } then? |
| 14:15.14 | rob_w | g_type_check_instance_cast segfaults at me .. any idea when this happens ? |
| 14:15.26 | zecke|study | hrw: and for moko-dates { 'moko-dates' : 'libgtkdatesview' ? |
| 14:15.37 | gerwinin | Jin~eLD: yes |
| 14:15.48 | Crofton|home | Is the website up? |
| 14:15.56 | hrw | {'dates': ['libgtkdatesview.so.0'], 'dates-locale-et': [], 'dates-dbg': [], 'dates-locale-nl': [], 'dates-doc': [], 'dates-dev': [], 'dates-locale-fr': []} |
| 14:16.04 | Jin^eLD | gerwinin: I found some approaches, described here: http://www.timesys.com/timesource/initramfs.htm |
| 14:16.31 | Jin^eLD | the one that worked for me was, pointing CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE to the directory that is supposed to be my ramfs, and rebuilding the kernel |
| 14:17.03 | Jin^eLD | the difficulty for me was, that I needed it all to be inside a uboot image, if you do not need it you could probably have an easier life with the initrd mechanism |
| 14:17.16 | hrw | {'openmoko-dates-locale-nl': [], 'openmoko-dates-dev': [], 'openmoko-dates-doc': [], 'openmoko-dates-locale-ru': [], 'openmoko-dates': ['libgtkdatesview.so.0'], 'openmoko-dates-locale-fr': [], 'openmoko-dates-locale-et': [], 'openmoko-dates-dbg': []} |
| 14:19.03 | zecke|study | hmm, I wonder if we want that |
| 14:19.29 | zecke|study | the effect of not needed is what? |
| 14:19.40 | hrw | zecke|study: s/notneeded/selfprovides |
| 14:20.20 | zecke|study | hrw: so no output for shlib should be generated?! |
| 14:20.48 | hrw | zecke|study: not for shlibs which are inside of package |
| 14:21.31 | zecke|study | hrw: No shlib code if at least one other binary is installed? |
| 14:21.56 | zecke|study | okay we should already see that no shlib provider is defined for xyz... |
| 14:22.54 | hrw | zecke|study: I'm now rebuilding to check oen thing |
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| 14:29.24 | hrw | zecke|study: this code does not block creating shlibs files |
| 14:29.29 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:29.38 | zecke|study | hrw: you should block it then |
| 14:29.52 | zecke|study | hrw: if it is a private, local lib it should not be referenced by others |
| 14:30.36 | hrw | zecke|study: what do you think about PRIVATE_LIBS = "libgtkdatesview" in recipes? |
| 14:31.27 | zecke|study | hrw: upstream wise I wonder why this library is necessary, not a static lib and why it is not suffixed with -hildon, -moko, -plain |
| 14:39.18 | koen | zecke|study: can we implement hrw's measure first and improve it later? |
| 14:42.17 | zecke|study | no :) |
| 14:42.52 | zecke|study | s/notneeded/bettername/ |
| 14:43.03 | hrw | 21 15:25 < hrw> zecke|study: s/notneeded/selfprovides |
| 14:43.18 | koen | internallibs, privatelibs |
| 14:43.31 | hrw | RP agreeded already to selfprovides |
| 14:43.41 | hrw | 14:53 |
| 14:43.43 | hrw | » hrw: Yes, thats better |
| 14:44.00 | zecke|study | hrw: the time is wrong, you betray us |
| 14:44.31 | zecke|study | hrw: okay, but these private libs should be removed from writing to shlibs |
| 14:44.59 | hrw | zecke|study: so we will have to add PRIVATE_LIBS variable into recipes |
| 14:45.25 | zecke|study | hrw: and you should make sure that OE still prints library names where it doesn't know which package they belong to |
| 14:46.04 | koen | hrw: does apt build for you? |
| 14:46.16 | hrw | NOTE: Couldn't find shared library provider for libXau.so.6 |
| 14:46.22 | hrw | zecke|study: those ones? |
| 14:46.37 | hrw | koen: started build |
| 14:46.48 | hrw | NOTE: package apt-0.6.46.4-r0: task do_configure: started |
| 14:47.27 | zecke|study | yes |
| 14:48.04 | zecke|study | hmm later |
| 14:48.08 | hrw | zecke|study: I did not touch that part |
| 14:48.19 | zecke|study | make sure it still works |
| 14:48.25 | hrw | sure |
| 14:48.34 | zecke|study | e.g. write another bb file that links to gtkdatesview |
| 14:50.11 | koen | hrw: eval `cat environment.mak | grep ^GLIBC_VER | sed -e's, = ,=,'` oe_libinstall -so -C bin libapt-pkg$GLIBC_VER-6 ${D}${libdir}/ |
| 14:50.18 | hrw | gtkdatesview is not used outside of dates |
| 14:50.30 | koen | hrw: that fails for me, since apt only builds static libs and GLIBCVER returns '-' |
| 14:51.08 | hrw | same looks here |
| 14:51.40 | hrw | koen: angstrom has libgcc-s1 ;( |
| 14:51.49 | koen | hrw: mtn up |
| 14:52.08 | hrw | koen: feeds |
| 14:52.14 | koen | ah, hmm |
| 14:52.15 | hrw | koen: abiword or gnumeric |
| 14:52.28 | koen | grrrr |
| 14:55.36 | XorA | whats up with abiword/gnumeric? |
| 14:55.49 | koen | built with a broken toolchain |
| 14:55.59 | koen | so they depend on libgcc_s1 instead of libgcc1 |
| 14:56.33 | zecke|study | hrw: well this is why you should write an artificial bb file that links to gtkdatesview |
| 14:57.15 | zecke|study | hrw: just for testing, and once we don't emit shlibs for private libs you can test again |
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| 15:06.37 | gerwinin | Koen: If I want to add a programm I made myself to oe where do I need to send it ? |
| 15:06.52 | hrw | bugtracker |
| 15:07.18 | gerwinin | hrw : thanks :) |
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| 15:15.02 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: good morning |
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| 15:22.16 | hrw | ~curse python |
| 15:22.18 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, python ! |
| 15:25.15 | chouimat | could be worse it could be reincarnated as a vista driver :) |
| 15:27.13 | mwester | or even a vista user :( |
| 15:27.42 | NAiL | ooh |
| 15:27.47 | NAiL | scary images |
| 15:28.12 | psokolovsky | python can be helpful even with winxp administration, sure |
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| 15:37.06 | mr_nice | hi all |
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| 16:02.50 | hrw | cu |
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| 16:06.24 | zecke|study | mr_nice: hey, I just saw you keep patches on sourceforge. It would be appreciated if you could keep them unzipped :) |
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| 16:06.40 | zecke|study | mr_nice: I'm such a web-browser guy and would like to view these things inline |
| 16:07.01 | zecke|study | mr_nice: diff's between patches are more easy to see and my builtin gunzip is pretty bad |
| 16:12.43 | mr_nice | zecke|study: ok I will change it especially for you now :) |
| 16:14.45 | zecke|study | :) |
| 16:14.47 | zecke|study | wonderful |
| 16:17.38 | mr_nice | zecke|study: ok things are changed. the mq200 driver does not include the lcd and backlight changes from mrdata. I will add them today or tomorrow. but the bug patch is included |
| 16:18.46 | zecke|study | I hate svn... |
| 16:20.24 | mr_nice | zecke|study: hm, sf.net has only cvs and svs so i thought svn is the better choice? |
| 16:21.12 | zecke|study | mr_nice: this was unrelated :) |
| 16:21.21 | zecke|study | we can not import data as something is stuck... |
| 16:26.37 | mr_nice | zecke|study: ah, ok. mrdata is on the apm problem. I am now on the button driver. after this and sysfsdriver for the cs3 latch I think the kernel is where 2.4 was. |
| 16:29.55 | mr_nice | -button + powerbutton |
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| 16:31.11 | chris144 | good afternoon all |
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| 16:39.11 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 16:40.53 | Ifaistos | koen : remember i told you yesterday about the soft_float problem. I added -msoft-float to the dht-wlanut machine config, did a clean build and it worked (packages were build with soft-float) |
| 16:41.09 | Ifaistos | koen : tested that by removing float emulation from the kernel |
| 16:41.16 | koen | Ifaistos: cool |
| 16:41.59 | zecke|study | ~lart svn |
| 16:42.50 | Ifaistos | koen : well.... its semi-cool :) it means that just setting TARGET_FPU="soft_float" does not guarantee that your apps will be build with soft-float, only the toolchain (or at least this is what i understood) |
| 16:43.34 | koen | bitbake 1.9 takes some getting used to |
| 16:43.44 | Ifaistos | s/TARRGET_FPU="soft" |
| 16:43.52 | zecke|study | Ifaistos: but the default spec should be soft float as well |
| 16:44.00 | zecke|study | Ifaistos: check with gcc --spec or such |
| 16:44.10 | chouimat | OMFG this can be real http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/6_to_8_Weeks_If_You_0x27_re_Lucky.aspx |
| 16:44.52 | chouimat | scan/can't |
| 16:46.13 | Ifaistos | zecke|study : Not sure what gcc --spec is, but i was under the impression that when specified apps should be forced to compile with soft-float and this can was not the case as i found out |
| 16:46.19 | Crofton|home | Should we change getting started to refer to bitbake 1.8 via svn? |
| 16:46.59 | zecke|study | Ifaistos: from my understanding the spec contains the default values for the compiler |
| 16:47.16 | koen | hrw|gone: I'm rebuilding victims of libgcc-s1 right now |
| 16:47.23 | zecke|study | Ifaistos: -dumpspecs |
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| 16:49.03 | Ifaistos | zecke|study : will re-check later, and report on that. |
| 16:56.58 | Ifaistos | i have started regression testing, -> http://rafb.net/p/PXmwaY98.html will let it go on for 12 hours |
| 16:57.08 | Ifaistos | check you mail tommorow |
| 16:57.21 | Ifaistos | opsss wrong channel |
| 16:57.27 | Ifaistos | sorry guys |
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| 17:27.55 | sirfred | Hello |
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| 17:33.41 | zecke|study | koen: make a sprint! |
| 17:35.25 | koen | zecke|study: for what? |
| 17:36.33 | zecke|study | koen: for doing monemumtal things |
| 17:36.59 | koen | zecke|study: do my assignments and/or pay me :) |
| 17:37.18 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.35 | koen | heh |
| 17:42.16 | chouimat | hehe |
| 17:42.40 | chouimat | http://despair.com/effort.html |
| 17:43.08 | mwester | hehehe! |
| 17:43.43 | HopsNBarley | those demotivators are fantastic. great idea. |
| 17:47.43 | Kristoffer | Im not fully aware of the percentual frequency of good looking female supervisors in the computer industry? |
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| 17:48.12 | chouimat | Kristoffer: .5%? |
| 17:48.34 | koen | enough cute PHD students from china over here |
| 17:49.09 | chouimat | ewww PhD ;) |
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| 17:51.10 | HopsNBarley | uh, you'll need to befriend the marketing people if you want cute, i'm afraid. |
| 17:51.26 | HopsNBarley | but this is not a bad thing. they tend to be fun. |
| 17:51.36 | Kristoffer | :D |
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| 17:58.18 | tkp | darn meta-toolchain is still giving me a headache :( |
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| 18:02.01 | tkp | it has task-sdk-bare in TARGET_INSTALL, which is supposed to pull packages from deploy/ipk/${TARGET_ARCH}/ |
| 18:02.09 | tkp | ask-sdk-bare is found in that diesctory... fine. |
| 18:02.36 | tkp | but RDEPENDS_task-sdk-bare = glibc, glibc-dev, libgcc1 |
| 18:02.52 | tkp | libgcc1 seems to be in ipk/HOST_ARCH |
| 18:03.05 | tkp | not in ipk/TARGET_ARCH, where it is expected |
| 18:04.36 | tkp | and glibc and glibc-dev are not found anywhere |
| 18:05.39 | koen | didn't OE rename that to libc6 and libc6-dev? |
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| 18:06.15 | tkp | koen: quite possibly... since I have: |
| 18:06.16 | tkp | tmp-stc/deploy/ipk/i586/libc6_2.5-r5_i586.ipk |
| 18:06.16 | tkp | tmp-stc/deploy/ipk/i586/libc6-dev_2.5-r5_i586.ipk |
| 18:07.44 | tkp | so glibc and glibc-dev is invalid for RDEPENDS |
| 18:08.02 | tkp | is that renaming a new thing? This used to work until I upgraded my checkout today |
| 18:08.55 | koen | renaming has been present since OE's creation |
| 18:09.20 | koen | RP had a remarkt about when it fails a while ago |
| 18:09.31 | koen | but AFAIK putting it in RDEPENDS should work |
| 18:09.33 | tkp | right... but it is OK to use the name glibc and glibc-dev in RDEPENDS |
| 18:09.41 | tkp | koen: yes... I know about that problem |
| 18:09.52 | tkp | that is a problem when creating images |
| 18:10.24 | tkp | yes... and it does work. It's not tripping up on the glibc ones... It's tripping up on libgcc1 |
| 18:10.45 | tkp | which is not present in ipk/TARGET_ARCH (it's in ipk/HOST_ARCH instead) |
| 18:11.01 | koen | hmmm |
| 18:11.09 | koen | could you try building gcc (non-cross)? |
| 18:11.30 | tkp | koen: I can. and I would expect that would fix the problem |
| 18:11.53 | tkp | but gcc (non-cross) shouldn't have to be built to build an sdk should it? |
| 18:12.00 | koen | it shouldn't |
| 18:12.50 | tkp | presumably, it should be cgg-cross-sdk that puts libgcc1 in ipk/TARGET_ARCH |
| 18:14.11 | tkp | actually, thinking about it. When I had this working before, I was using a different toolchain - gcc 3.4.4, rather than what I'm using now, which is gcc-4.1.1 |
| 18:15.42 | tkp | the only difference I can see between the two versions of gcc-cross-sdk is the positioning of the require statements |
| 18:15.48 | koen | both should be using gcc-package(-cross).inc |
| 18:15.58 | koen | ah, that might be it |
| 18:16.30 | tkp | 3.4.4 does require gcc_${PV}.bb right at the top |
| 18:16.41 | tkp | where as 4.1.1 does it after PACKAGES = "${PN}" |
| 18:16.57 | tkp | but both do require gcc-package-sdk.inc as the very last thing |
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| 18:17.32 | tkp | oh... package-cross... hmm, where does that get pulled in |
| 18:19.58 | tkp | koen: should this missing package in ipk/TARGET_ARCH be comming from gcc-cross-sdk, or gcc-cross? |
| 18:20.17 | koen | tkp: I'm not sure |
| 18:20.30 | apaulsen | I see that tzdata RCONFLICTS with timezones now. Can tzdata provide timezones so a distro can PREFERRED_PROVIDER_timezones = "tzdata" ? |
| 18:20.33 | koen | gcc-cross should be generating it regardless |
| 18:20.57 | koen | apaulsen: I think we can delete timezones |
| 18:21.34 | tkp | gcc-cross did not even get built... only gcc-cross-initial and gcc-cross-sdk |
| 18:21.39 | apaulsen | ok, I just noticed that my gpe-image was failing because it was including timezones and I was trying to include tzdata. |
| 18:23.49 | koen | apaulsen: yeah, it's a mess right now |
| 18:24.37 | apaulsen | koen|away: ok, I rigged my local copy up like I just described and it will work for now. I'll wait for the dust to settle :) |
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| 18:38.25 | hvontres|poodle | koen: Do you know what the .tab files in tzdata are used for? It dosn't look like they are getting packaged right now, even tho we RCONFLICT them |
| 18:39.09 | koen | hvontres|poodle: I have no idea |
| 18:39.19 | koen | I just removed some hardcoded stuff from the .bb |
| 18:40.41 | hvontres|poodle | koen: ok. |
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| 18:55.54 | CIA-11 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb253d9db... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: prefer gtk 2.10.10 |
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| 19:03.01 | koen | yay! |
| 19:03.14 | koen | they skipped the nazi-aliens-from-the-future season of enterprise |
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| 19:05.10 | koen | zecke: feeling better? |
| 19:05.43 | zecke | no, but I want to commit the rss reader :) |
| 19:09.52 | CIA-11 | 03Cyril 07org.oe.dev * rbb5d6628... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): prismstumbler: bug #1679, fix inclusion of host headers and incorrect ranlib and ar calls, thanks to Cyril Romain |
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| 19:10.03 | chouimat | koen hmmm? |
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| 19:10.21 | koen | chouimat: the tv station went straight to season 4 from season 2 |
| 19:10.39 | chouimat | koen ok .. they skipped the xindy |
| 19:11.02 | koen | no, did have those |
| 19:11.19 | koen | just not the WW2 with aliens crap |
| 19:11.52 | chouimat | koen the xindy is season 3 ... that ww2 thing is one of my favorite part |
| 19:12.14 | koen | it's insane |
| 19:12.40 | chouimat | koen I bet time traveling will do some weird stuff to you ;) |
| 19:13.09 | koen | like fire all the script writers and asking your 5 year old nephew to do the script |
| 19:14.16 | hvontres|poodle | koen: hehe... or fire all the script writers and wind up with a bunch of "reality" shows....:( |
| 19:20.00 | sirfred | Perhaps I should ask this in the openzaurus channel, but as it says it's an user discussion/support... |
| 19:20.22 | sirfred | I'm also reading in the topic "without more developers there will be no new release" |
| 19:20.32 | sirfred | So, there are no plans for 3.5.5 ? |
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| 19:21.40 | sirfred | Or is everybody working in angstrom? |
| 19:21.44 | likewise | hi everyone |
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| 19:22.41 | koen | hey likewise |
| 19:22.55 | koen | likewise: sorry for not answering your email, I read it at the airport |
| 19:23.05 | likewise | hey koen, how's life and such? |
| 19:23.24 | likewise | koen: np, cannot even remember what the mail was about |
| 19:23.45 | koen | likewise: life is cold, returning from a warm country |
| 19:23.50 | SirManiac | hey all, hiving touble working with sqlite and glibc on the x86 platform(possibly involves gcc as well). |
| 19:23.56 | koen | back to the uni lab fulltime |
| 19:24.01 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: I think hrw started a oz-3.5.5 conf file, but he's kinda busy right now. aside form him there is only Xora and me working on stuff, and I am kind of a newby at this stuff. |
| 19:24.12 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: so feel free to pitch in :) |
| 19:24.28 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: I'd like to help. |
| 19:24.28 | koen | use angstrom :) |
| 19:24.33 | likewise | koen: home sweet home |
| 19:24.37 | sirfred | koen: :) |
| 19:24.40 | chris144 | SirManiac: which kind of trouble? |
| 19:24.44 | hvontres|poodle | tnb: You did the original tzdata.bb right ? |
| 19:24.56 | SirManiac | just a sec, looking for actual error |
| 19:25.00 | sirfred | koen: What is current angstrom state? |
| 19:25.06 | sirfred | koen: Usable on c7x0 ? |
| 19:25.09 | tnb | hvontres|poodle: yes |
| 19:25.10 | koen | it builds and works |
| 19:25.15 | chris144 | SirManiac: use pastebin.ca |
| 19:25.16 | koen | needs some polish |
| 19:25.21 | SirManiac | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.49 | hvontres|poodle | tnb: Do you know what the .tab files are used for in zoneinfo? I noticed that tzdata does not package them right now |
| 19:26.00 | chris144 | SirManiac: can you post the whole thing to pastebin.ca? |
| 19:26.02 | SirManiac | this happens when compiling sqllite, it seems to involve tls |
| 19:26.07 | SirManiac | ok, will do |
| 19:26.17 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: Fist problem I've found is that it seems that the SRCDATE for qemu-qop-nogfx-native is not locked, and patches don't apply correctly. |
| 19:26.38 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: But I'm also a newbie at these things, perhaps I'm confused. |
| 19:27.00 | SirManiac | http://pastebin.ca/405459 |
| 19:27.16 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: which tree are you building against? 3.5.5 currently uses the .dev tree |
| 19:27.19 | tnb | hvontres|poodle: I don't, sorry |
| 19:27.23 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: .dev, yes. |
| 19:27.46 | hvontres|poodle | tnb: ok. google dosn't seem to know either :) |
| 19:27.49 | sirfred | koen: Is there any periodic release scheme projected for angstrom ? |
| 19:28.14 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: feel free to sign up as a dev over on projects.linuxtogo.org :) |
| 19:28.30 | SirManiac | chris144: I've noticed that glibc inst't being configured to use tls, and neither does gcc seem to be |
| 19:28.35 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: What are the requisites to commit and so? |
| 19:28.50 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: so far I have just been trying to get a 2.6.20 bootstrap image working on poodle |
| 19:29.22 | chris144 | SirManiac: GLIBC_EXTRA_OECONF = "--with-tls" might work, you need to rebuild glibc though |
| 19:29.58 | SirManiac | chris144: one thing I haven't tried yet, is this proper for angstrom? |
| 19:30.44 | chris144 | SirManiac: that I cannot tell. I am using openembedded on custom X86 PC104 CPU boards, it works there... |
| 19:31.02 | SirManiac | chris144: ok, thanks |
| 19:31.08 | chris144 | SirManiac: np |
| 19:31.48 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: do you have comit access to regular OE stuff? |
| 19:31.55 | koen | sirfred: not yet, everybody is pretty busy right now |
| 19:32.02 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: No. |
| 19:32.33 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: otherwise file bugs in bugzilla and pester the regulars :) |
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| 19:33.09 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: The problem is that it seems that people is very busy to handle all bugs |
| 19:33.23 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: file enough good patches and they might even give you rw privs. |
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| 19:35.54 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: I dunno, you did a bunch of cool stuff with RP on w100. I have only fixed a couple of minor things so far |
| 19:36.47 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: plus, while they might be busy, the appreciate fixed bugs even more :) |
| 19:37.29 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: Yes, I will try to help with 3.5.5 |
| 19:37.48 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: yay :) |
| 19:37.48 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: So, it's only hrw, XorA and you that are working on this? |
| 19:38.59 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: I think Legwie is also signed up: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/openzaurus/ |
| 19:39.33 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: I'm going to sign |
| 19:39.42 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: time for lunch. I'll be back in 30 |
| 19:40.00 | hvontres|poodle | sirfred: thanks :) |
| 19:40.07 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: To you. :) |
| 19:40.55 | sirfred | Curious, I can register using 'Latin' as my language. |
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| 20:02.15 | _law_ | is bitbake1.8.0 already recommend? |
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| 20:04.07 | Crofton | for the efika, when I put a USB card in the PCI slot, should the "back" of the card (with the output connectors) face the back off the efika (with the connectors) |
| 20:04.47 | Crofton | I ask, because my usb card goes in both ways .... |
| 20:05.48 | likewise | Crofton: yes |
| 20:06.02 | Crofton | likewise, hi! |
| 20:06.24 | Crofton | I figured that, but since I'v already killed one EFIKA, I figured I should ask |
| 20:06.28 | likewise | Crofton: hi, yes brackets should face the same side. |
| 20:06.47 | likewise | Crofton: do you know what bricked out? |
| 20:07.01 | Crofton | makes sense, I am wondering if I killed the board by having the USB card reversed |
| 20:07.07 | Crofton | the entire card |
| 20:07.14 | Crofton | nothing on the serial port |
| 20:07.55 | likewise | Crofton: hard to tell, there are some pins that are shortcircuit within PCI (PRSN# pins), I wonder if the PCI guys made it (fail|fool)safe for those universal cards |
| 20:08.25 | Crofton | In a normal case, it is impossible to reverse the card |
| 20:08.28 | likewise | Crofton: you have no clue what caused the brickening (sic) itself? |
| 20:08.53 | Crofton | I can only thinnk wobbly USB card, or reversed USB card |
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| 20:15.14 | tnb | has anyone created a pcmcia stab file using pcmcia-utils? mreimer had a good suggestion of using udev to do so. Qtopia relies pretty heavily on stab. |
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| 20:30.09 | cyrilRomain | 'evening all |
| 20:32.25 | likewise | cyrilRomain: good evening |
| 20:32.39 | cyrilRomain | JustinP: about bug 1679, I'm quite surprised prismstumbler needs a motif header (isn't motif considered as a deprecated ?) |
| 20:32.42 | cyrilRomain | hi likewise |
| 20:33.29 | cyrilRomain | JustinP: but I found a new release http://projects.linuxtogo.org/frs/?group_id=6&release_id=10, where build system has been updated, and which seems to not depend on motif anymore |
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| 20:34.46 | cyrilRomain | JustinP: so I guess one should add this new version to oe. Maybe should it be asked to florian ? |
| 20:36.59 | Crofton | koen, ping? |
| 20:37.00 | cyrilRomain | but maybe is there a good reason for the new version not being in metadata |
| 20:37.47 | mr_nice | zecke: hi, do you remember the general gpio0 class you mentioned me? were can I find it? |
| 20:39.32 | cyrilRomain | hmm, does anyone tried building lastest qemu with this gcc 4.x patch http://www.kju-app.org/proj/browser/trunk/patches/qemu-0.9.0-gcc4.patch ? |
| 20:39.43 | zecke | mr_nice: wait a second |
| 20:40.11 | mr_nice | zecke: thx |
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| 20:41.48 | koen | Crofton: pong |
| 20:42.05 | Crofton | rishi @ ti.com? |
| 20:42.23 | koen | correct |
| 20:42.37 | zecke | mr_nice: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/input/keyboard/gpio_keys.c;h=ccf6df387b62d88e64790c3622202d0b296c21e3;hb=49015bee4071d56456ef59f1f82be6531615341c |
| 20:42.52 | zecke | mr_nice: you just need to set platform_data |
| 20:42.57 | koen | Crofton: Rishi Bhattacharya in full |
| 20:43.13 | Crofton | rishi for short :) |
| 20:43.29 | JustinP | cyrilRomain: I use Gentoo and switch my compiler from 4 to 3 when compiling qemu-native, then back to 4. ;-) |
| 20:43.34 | mr_nice | zecke: thx! |
| 20:43.51 | cyrilRomain | JustinP: which I do too, but I feel fed up switching :) |
| 20:44.01 | JustinP | cyrilRomain: as for prismstumbler it seems like a good idea to update to the newest version but I've never even used the program so I'm not sure I should necessarily be doing that... |
| 20:44.16 | JustinP | cyrilRomain: if you'd like to try the new version I'd appreciate it |
| 20:44.23 | cyrilRomain | JustinP: I usually build angstrom, fix bug I encounter, and start again from scratch until more bugs are killed |
| 20:44.32 | XorA | morning |
| 20:44.52 | zecke | mr_nice: two things: Implement something like http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/gpio.h;h=aeba24347f8e43355619711b3a4f10e4ec0a8c4d;hb=HEAD this for strongARM (this looks really easy) |
| 20:44.53 | JustinP | cyrilRomain: I tend to fix the bug and just continue. I used to start again from scratch a lot but not too much lately |
| 20:45.06 | zecke | mr_nice: then set platform data and compile the generic driver into the kernel |
| 20:45.08 | cyrilRomain | JustinP: I nerver used prismstumbler too (and probably will never since my needs) |
| 20:45.32 | JustinP | cyrilRomain: :-/ If florian is the "MMAINTAINER" for it then we should probably ask him |
| 20:45.40 | cyrilRomain | JustinP: yes |
| 20:45.51 | JustinP | cyrilRomain: you could try adding it and see if it compiles at least. Then we could add it with DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" |
| 20:46.13 | mr_nice | zecke: cool |
| 20:46.15 | cyrilRomain | JustinP: yes. I'll give it a try |
| 20:46.22 | JustinP | cyrilRomain: thanks :-) |
| 20:49.04 | cyrilRomain | JustinP: hmm, I guess florian have already created a .bb locally. I'll ask him before. |
| 20:49.35 | JustinP | *nod* |
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| 21:01.38 | dave_c | zecke, I don't know if you remember me, but.. |
| 21:02.05 | dave_c | i followed your advise and used parallells on os x to compile oe, and it went through |
| 21:02.15 | dave_c | flawlessly. |
| 21:02.22 | dave_c | thanks, |
| 21:02.32 | zecke | dave_c: so now it is time to fix the native osx build :) |
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| 21:02.59 | dave_c | i still can't figure out what goes wrong |
| 21:04.20 | koen | zecke: a little bird told me mickeyl is getting a mac pro ;) |
| 21:04.37 | zecke | dave_c: if you have enough GNU utils installed you should be able to build a cross compiler :} |
| 21:04.53 | dave_c | ok |
| 21:05.14 | timtimgym | make sure the fs you do it in is case sensitive too. |
| 21:05.27 | dave_c | i think I have enough gnu utils, and my fs is case sensitive |
| 21:05.33 | zecke | right, or build inside a case sensitive dmg |
| 21:05.44 | dave_c | i pretty much compile most of my linux stuff from src on os x |
| 21:05.52 | zecke | ~lart file vault for not working with case-sensitive fs's |
| 21:06.03 | timtimgym | dont install a mac on UFS btw if you like things working properly |
| 21:06.07 | timtimgym | :) |
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| 21:06.45 | zecke | dave_c: where did it fail? e.g. quilt-native needs GNU sed installed |
| 21:06.56 | dave_c | sed is installed |
| 21:08.03 | dave_c | ever since things worked outed on knoppix inside parallels, i erased the os x srcs |
| 21:08.21 | zecke | my macbook is motsly a remote client :) |
| 21:08.42 | zecke | I use apple mail to annoy koen and to 'emulate' JustinP :) |
| 21:08.53 | dave_c | i honestly don't am amazed that I was able to compile oe inside the vm |
| 21:08.54 | JustinP | I'm not a Mac fanboy at all |
| 21:08.59 | JustinP | I just happen to have one for work now |
| 21:09.07 | JustinP | I mostly use it as a terminal for non-work stuff ;-) |
| 21:10.11 | dave_c | i was compiling opendream-1.4 image |
| 21:10.27 | dave_c | the whole thing took about ~12 hours |
| 21:10.49 | dave_c | and both the vm and the host were solid and stable |
| 21:10.56 | dave_c | amazing |
| 21:11.23 | chris144 | good night |
| 21:15.53 | koen | likewise: poke your davinci engineers |
| 21:16.07 | koen | likewise: TI is opening up quite some sources the next months |
| 21:16.25 | koen | likewise: still no word on proper HD framebuffers |
| 21:16.52 | likewise | koen: remove the last s from that sentence, we are getting cairo on HDTV alive now, no engineers left |
| 21:17.07 | likewise | koen: thanks for inquiring! |
| 21:17.42 | koen | using ixp or ppc boards? |
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| 21:24.55 | apaulsen | Does anyone know if matchbox reports window size differently than other window managers since everything runs full screen? I'm trying to get some of the newer java/classpath stuff working in OE but the classpath/Swing/gtk/cairo/matchbox/kdrive combination results in everything thinking the window size is zero and nothing get drawn. |
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| 21:27.53 | florian | re |
| 21:29.05 | vivijim | hi all, is there any easy way to sync 3 monotone repositories without commit to monotone.openembedded.org? I really don't want to commit anything to official repository yet, because I'm just playing with some files trying to create my own distro... |
| 21:29.33 | Crofton | I think you can push/pull within your own repos |
| 21:31.27 | XorA | vivijim: as croften says, run mtn server yourself and sync with yourself, insructions are on monotone webpage |
| 21:32.18 | vivijim | uhm, thanks, I'll try it... I'm completely newbi with monotone... |
| 21:32.51 | likewise | vivijim: Then how did you end up with 3 repos? :-) |
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| 21:34.38 | vivijim | likewise: actually they are 3 local OE... in 3 machines: my notebook, my desktop and a friend's desktop... |
| 21:35.40 | likewise | vivijim: ah, ok, good luck. |
| 21:36.27 | vivijim | hehehe tanks |
| 21:37.37 | Crofton | vivijim, you do not have push access to main repo? |
| 21:38.12 | Crofton | you should be able to setup your repos so you can push/pull amongst them, and only pull from main oe repo |
| 21:38.37 | Crofton | it should be easy, as long as you do not have local mods to files in main repo |
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| 21:40.23 | vivijim | I don't have this access yet... and I don't want to pussh to main repo because it is experimental yet... I'll try to create my own repo for internal use only just for a while... when it becomes stable I'll try to get the access to main repo and add my distro... |
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| 21:40.56 | Crofton | vivijim, try push/pull between the three servers then |
| 21:41.38 | NAiL | vivijim: If you don't have write access, atleast you can't break anything ;) |
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| 21:43.31 | cyrilRomain | hi florian ! got my mail :) ? |
| 21:44.04 | florian | cyrilRomain: yes, but didn't manage to answer yet. |
| 21:44.15 | cyrilRomain | florian: ok np :) |
| 21:44.59 | likewise | NAiL: hi! |
| 21:45.02 | florian | cyrilRomain: basically yes, it might be necessary gpe-aerial as well but it would be a good idea to get rid of the old crappy build stuff. |
| 21:45.43 | NAiL | likewise: hi |
| 21:46.17 | NAiL | ! :) |
| 21:47.15 | likewise | :-) <---- |
| 21:47.21 | NAiL | hehe |
| 21:47.37 | NAiL | you still using that ts for non-hacking-purposes? |
| 21:49.05 | likewise | NAiL: yes... |
| 21:49.10 | NAiL | shame ;) |
| 21:49.25 | likewise | NAiL: still waiting for a Freescale dev board to become available (MPC8313) |
| 21:49.30 | NAiL | ah |
| 21:49.44 | NAiL | basically the same cpu, innit? |
| 21:50.00 | NAiL | just more features? :) |
| 21:50.06 | likewise | NAiL: newer, but scaled down I guess. |
| 21:50.25 | NAiL | ok |
| 21:50.31 | NAiL | Not quite into freescale stuff yet |
| 21:50.41 | NAiL | only got one ppc board, and it's dead :P |
| 21:50.51 | likewise | TS has a MPC8243 I think, and then there is the MPC83* series with 43 and 13 |
| 21:51.04 | likewise | NAiL: EFIKA?? |
| 21:51.05 | NAiL | ts has mpc8241 |
| 21:51.18 | likewise | NAiL: Ah, close |
| 21:51.19 | NAiL | no, my only ppc board is the ts ;) |
| 21:51.26 | likewise | darn, you bricked it? |
| 21:51.31 | NAiL | yup |
| 21:51.45 | NAiL | and unfortunately, I have the newer rev pcb, that doesn't have JTAG |
| 21:51.49 | NAiL | (apparently not AT ALL) |
| 21:51.56 | likewise | NAiL: really too bad. |
| 21:52.14 | NAiL | Still a little bit hope left though, if I can find someone that can flash a chip |
| 21:52.20 | likewise | NAiL: uh oh, desolder the Flash?? |
| 21:52.23 | NAiL | yeah |
| 21:52.31 | NAiL | with proper equipment, it ain't that bad |
| 21:52.35 | likewise | what part? |
| 21:52.38 | NAiL | the worst part is getting it off |
| 21:53.03 | likewise | NAiL: with the proper equipment and person, even that is easy :-) |
| 21:53.03 | NAiL | the flash? It's a 56pin 128mbit TSOP. |
| 21:53.34 | NAiL | 0.25mm pins according to my digital calipers |
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| 21:53.47 | philippe | NAiL: that should be easy. And it is not very hard to solder back on |
| 21:54.06 | NAiL | no, soldering it on isn't as hard as getting it off |
| 21:54.11 | NAiL | (without damaging the board) |
| 21:54.19 | likewise | NAiL: hmm, and what about some PPC/BDM connector instead of JTAG? |
| 21:54.33 | NAiL | Of course, using an x-acto knife to cut of the legs would make it easier... |
| 21:54.34 | philippe | NAiL: if you have one of those hot air desolder things it should come off easily |
| 21:54.40 | NAiL | likewise: PPC/BDM? |
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| 21:54.55 | NAiL | morning hillct |
| 21:54.57 | likewise | Background Debugging Module (PowerPC specific interface, bit like JTAG) |
| 21:55.17 | NAiL | hmm... How can I figure out that? |
| 21:55.22 | hillct | good evening NAiL ;) |
| 21:55.39 | likewise | NAiL: Google for "mpc8241 bdm" |
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| 21:59.05 | likewise | NAiL: cannot help you on the details for that specific processor, but most debugger dongles support BDM (besides JTAG) |
| 21:59.29 | likewise | NAiL: That's the way I brought up the PPC860 and the Coldfire 5349 |
| 22:01.23 | likewise | What's a more graphical tool for 3-way merge? I have meld installed, but get: WARNING: 'vim' was choosen to perform external 3-way merge. |
| 22:02.44 | NAiL | likewise: well, what pins does bdm need to connect to? |
| 22:03.00 | likewise | NAiL: on the proc? |
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| 22:04.57 | NAiL | likewise: yeah |
| 22:05.15 | likewise | NAiL: sorry, dunno for the mpc82xx |
| 22:11.24 | likewise | good nite |
| 22:13.16 | sirfred | hvontres|poodle: I was able to build qemu-qop-nogfx-native setting SRCDATE_qemu-qop-nogfx-native = "20060723", but perhaps it should be locked in the distro conf. |
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| 22:20.20 | sirfred | NIght |
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| 22:24.35 | CIA-11 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r521eea48... 10/ (1 packages/monotone/monotone-6_0.33.bb): monotone-6: Add '-f' to rm, incase the file isn't there. |
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| 22:30.15 | chouimat | wow, never saw saw a greater moron than him |
| 22:30.53 | NAiL | chouimat: who are you talking about/to? |
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| 22:31.45 | chouimat | NAiL: my favorite developer (3rd post) http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=9101 |
| 22:31.57 | chouimat | NAiL: it's his idea of user support |
| 22:32.54 | cyrilRomain | NAiL: shouldn't be monotone-6 be fixed with that patch instead ? http://rafb.net/p/GTuF1X67.html |
| 22:33.30 | NAiL | cyrilRomain: looking |
| 22:34.42 | NAiL | chouimat: what's the problem? Doesn't he basically provide all the necessary info? |
| 22:35.26 | chouimat | NAiL: not really .. but I have a personal problem with him ... |
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| 22:36.53 | chouimat | NAiL: the original post ask what I do when I broke the thing ... aka bad/corrupt not how to replace it |
| 22:37.43 | NAiL | well, from what I can see, the second post made the first one irrelevant |
| 22:38.01 | NAiL | and the link he provided contained all the info needed to answer the second question |
| 22:38.38 | chouimat | NAiL: the last few one are more usefull for me |
| 22:38.43 | cyrilRomain | Laibsch: it seems you commited but not pushed the two glibc patches |
| 22:39.50 | NAiL | btw, I'm getting this behaviour with bitbake 1.8: http://pastebin.ca/405769 |
| 22:40.22 | NAiL | It appears to parse everything once for every task |
| 22:44.05 | CIA-11 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r8ee01e7a... 10/ (1 packages/monotone/monotone-6_0.33.bb): monotone-6: Fix path instead of trying to remove a file in a nonexisting location |
| 22:44.12 | NAiL | Anyone know why bitbake is doing that? It kinda slows down the build a *lot* |
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| 22:48.08 | cyrilRomain | pastebin is so slow that I can't access to the page ... |
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| 22:50.07 | NAiL | cyrilRomain: try http://www.pasteserver.net/6032H |
| 22:50.09 | NAiL | aargh |
| 22:50.10 | NAiL | http://www.pasteserver.net/603 |
| 22:51.32 | rwhitby | morning |
| 22:52.29 | cyrilRomain | NAiL: do you use PARALLEL_MAKE ? |
| 22:52.41 | NAiL | cyrilRomain: not at all |
| 22:52.50 | cyrilRomain | NAiL: I don't have such behaviour .. |
| 22:53.03 | cyrilRomain | (i don't use PARALLEL_MAKE either) |
| 22:53.03 | NAiL | I'm not running it in an interactive shell |
| 22:53.12 | NAiL | it didn't have this behaviour when I did |
| 22:53.27 | NAiL | basically, nohup bb <something> & |
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| 22:54.30 | Laibsch | cyrilRomain: That is correkt. I had some issues with the computer. |
| 22:54.45 | Laibsch | I hope I can push it within the hour. |
| 22:55.31 | cyrilRomain | Laibsch: no pb, thx :) |
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| 22:56.55 | cyrilRomain | NAiL: I have no idea .. but I noticed here I use bitbake 1.8.1 |
| 22:57.09 | cyrilRomain | NAiL: so maybe it is something that was fix recently ? |
| 22:57.20 | cyrilRomain | s/fix/fixed/ even |
| 22:57.28 | NAiL | dunno. It works fine if I just run it directly, without nohup and & |
| 22:58.12 | cyrilRomain | NAiL: btw, what is nohup ? |
| 22:58.23 | NAiL | kinda like "screen" |
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| 23:12.23 | cyrilRomain | 'n8 all |
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| 23:39.03 | CIA-11 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r5419a8c3... 10/ (1 packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins.inc): gst-plugins.inc: PR makes no sense for an include file |
| 23:39.07 | CIA-11 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r6c7f9afd... 10/ (16 files in 2 dirs): gstreamer: Bump all PR to prevent it from going backwards as a result of removing PR from the include file. |
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