| 00:02.08 | RP | robtaylor: by the entry and exit times from any syscalls I guess |
| 00:02.31 | robtaylor | RP: yeah, there's no syscall in process over that period |
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| 00:05.17 | RP | robtaylor: It sounds like the process itself is chewing up cpu time then... |
| 00:05.40 | robtaylor | RP: strange, as it s getting colourd blue rather than green in the display |
| 00:06.14 | robtaylor | hmm, i guess i should add some reporting into udev and see whats takeing the time :) |
| 00:06.51 | robtaylor | s/display/control flow viewer/ :) |
| 00:07.32 | robtaylor | RP: in lttv-gui, that is |
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| 00:30.24 | RP | 'night all |
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| 02:12.19 | darmou | Does anyone know what tasks are required for developers for openzaurus? |
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| 02:17.42 | jselect | hi guys |
| 02:18.17 | jselect | could anyone give me some tips for image recipes? I'm building an image and it does root_fs but I don't seem to get a kernel or anything in the rootfs.. about 1.8mb total :( |
| 02:19.22 | darmou | I'm beginning to wonder if openzaurus devel really is dead |
| 02:19.31 | jselect | If i run "bitbake -v myimage" I see bitbake selecting all the correct packages but it just doesn't put the files in the image |
| 02:22.14 | Zero_Chaos | anyone with commit be a pal and fix the maintainer according to bug 1941? |
| 02:22.16 | Zero_Chaos | thanks |
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| 02:28.17 | Blue89 | the guys at #openzaurus pointed me to this channel, I am having a problem with automake on a spitz-like device |
| 02:28.33 | Zero_Chaos | spitz-like? |
| 02:28.54 | Blue89 | an SL-C3200 in this case |
| 02:29.11 | Blue89 | I am trying to build bzflag from source |
| 02:29.59 | Blue89 | but for some reason libtool is looking in the wrong directory for my libraries, in a home subfolder that doesn't exist /home/hrw... |
| 02:30.14 | Blue89 | why is that? |
| 02:30.42 | Zero_Chaos | you have BBPATH set in your environment? |
| 02:30.58 | Zero_Chaos | if you do and it is accurate maybe http://pastebin.ca your conf/local.conf |
| 02:31.11 | Blue89 | I didn't mess with any of the system variables, if it isn't set in the install it's not set now |
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| 02:33.36 | Blue89 | I checked, bbpath is empty. what should it be set to? |
| 02:33.43 | Zero_Chaos | well if you read Getting Started on www.openembedded.org it might clear somethings up |
| 02:33.49 | Blue89 | ok |
| 02:35.16 | Blue89 | hmm... I think I was sent to the wrong place |
| 02:35.54 | Blue89 | I am talking about ./configure; make; make install, that's not bitbake afaik |
| 02:36.48 | Zero_Chaos | yeah, you are in the wrong place then, this is a cross-compiling environment to help you |
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| 02:38.19 | Blue89 | somehitng like gentoo's portage, I've heard of it |
| 02:38.50 | Zero_Chaos | it's rather nice in my opinion, but then again, I use it :-) |
| 02:39.37 | Blue89 | is it in ipk form or do I have to do a lot of work by hand to install it? I might try it. |
| 02:40.28 | Zero_Chaos | it makes ipk, it runs on your desktop |
| 02:40.36 | Zero_Chaos | read the website, you may like it |
| 02:41.09 | Blue89 | ok |
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| 04:19.18 | jselect | hmm.. can anyone tell me where you can set the size of a generated ext2 image? |
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| 05:24.21 | likewise | Hello fooks |
| 05:30.30 | HopsNBarley | hey likewise! |
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| 05:40.15 | mwester | fooks? |
| 05:49.10 | HopsNBarley | it's dutch. |
| 05:56.00 | likewise | mwester: your last name sounds Dutch |
| 05:56.15 | likewise | mwester: is Dutch actually |
| 05:56.26 | mwester | Yep. |
| 05:57.29 | likewise | Where are you from? |
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| 05:57.29 | mwester | All over, I guess. Chicago right now. |
| 05:57.29 | mwester | Lived in Canada for a while, as well as Amsterdam |
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| 05:58.27 | likewise | mwester: Well, I just made my first trip into the US, I'm in SF now, I'm dutch. |
| 06:00.21 | likewise | mwester: Canada is #1 on our wanna-live list. |
| 06:01.34 | mwester | Canada's a nice place; I enjoyed it. Ended up in the US because that's where the jobs were. The high-tech field has gotten much better in Canada,though. |
| 06:02.36 | likewise | mwester: my alter ego would like to move to BC, I am not sure about the tech jobs there, but she is into animal wildlife stuff, which is harder to find than tech stuff these days. |
| 06:03.28 | likewise | mwester: we really should be working on it again, we moved to a new house last year, and plans to move got frozen for the short term while she is starting her own business. |
| 06:04.03 | likewise | mwester: well, it allowed me to finally finish my MSc, which also helps moving abroad. |
| 06:04.26 | mwester | Vancouver, BC is pretty much the place for high-tech on the west coast. Perhaps a little in Calgary Alberta (other side of the mountains). |
| 06:05.26 | mwester | Both places are beautiful (or within driving distance of beautiful, I should say!) |
| 06:06.07 | likewise | mwester: yes, that's one of the things that attracts us both. |
| 06:09.00 | likewise | Crofton: did you feel the FOSDEM stuff was worth the trip, going through the long journey? |
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| 06:17.13 | Blue89 | about how big is the snapshot bitbake needs? (packed) |
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| 06:26.23 | jselect | hmm |
| 06:32.52 | likewise | good point, I cannot remember, but I guess it was 200 MB. Can someone check now? |
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| 06:33.36 | Blue89 | I have some stuff saved already, if it is that much it won't fit |
| 06:33.44 | Blue89 | :-( |
| 06:36.31 | likewise | Wait, I can login and check on another box probablty. |
| 06:36.57 | Blue89 | I could remaster the cd... I might get another 200mb or so out of that I think |
| 06:38.16 | Blue89 | wget says it is 105mb |
| 06:39.30 | likewise | yup, confirmed |
| 06:39.55 | likewise | Blue89: do you need it uncompressed? |
| 06:40.20 | Blue89 | I can probably build a script to decompress it |
| 06:40.31 | likewise | Blue89: Do you need the whole history? |
| 06:40.39 | Blue89 | ? |
| 06:40.55 | likewise | Blue89: I mean, would a checkout work for your purpose? |
| 06:41.08 | Blue89 | I just want what is 100% necessary to build ipks |
| 06:42.23 | Blue89 | actually pentoo mounts any squashfs modul at boot, I could re-compress with that and compress my settings too |
| 06:42.58 | likewise | Blue89: Then you do not need the .db file, you just need a checkout of the latest release. |
| 06:43.16 | Blue89 | I already emerged bitbake. you mean that? |
| 06:43.19 | likewise | s/release/state of the repo |
| 06:43.35 | likewise | Blue89: No, I mean the checkout "oeg.openembedded.dev" directory. |
| 06:43.44 | likewise | s/oeg/org |
| 06:43.59 | likewise | you do not need the Monotone .db file |
| 06:45.14 | likewise | Ah, the dir is also 110 MB, never mind. |
| 06:45.37 | likewise | I should be getting some sleep instead, good nite all. |
| 06:46.04 | jselect | guys for a machine to support usbhost and usbgadget it just needs those two added to MACHINE_FEATURES right? |
| 06:46.08 | jselect | or is there something else i'm missing |
| 06:48.02 | Blue89 | I need sleep too, I will figure this out tomorrow. |
| 07:00.29 | Ifaistos | morning all |
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| 07:04.22 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:04.52 | rwhitby | morning koen |
| 07:05.15 | jselect | i wish it was still morning here :) I've spent the better part of a day on OE |
| 07:16.14 | Ifaistos | koen : seems that the gcc/efika problem is somewhat connected with libiberty |
| 07:17.50 | Ifaistos | koen : hmmm this looks strange -> powerpc-angstrom-linux-gcc -mcpu=603e -O2 -g -Os -DIN_GCC |
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| 07:29.51 | oxo | good morning |
| 07:30.37 | pH5 | good morning |
| 07:33.42 | jselect | the grub package under org.openembedded.dev doesn't actually install grub stages to /boot does it? |
| 07:34.41 | jselect | hmm just checked and it doesn't |
| 07:34.51 | jselect | i suppose not many people use grub for booting oe devices :( |
| 07:38.44 | Ifaistos | jselect : no its does not. You will need something similar to syslinux.bbclass and no one has wrote one |
| 07:38.46 | koen | hey rwhitby |
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| 07:40.39 | Ifaistos | jselect : to see how to install grub to an OE generated image -> http://owmnr.digital-opsis.com/project/wiki/OWMNRInstall |
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| 07:44.48 | Ifaistos | and a message i suppose you don't see often when compiling with OE -> CPU0: Temperature above threshold |
| 07:44.48 | Ifaistos | CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode |
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| 07:45.22 | jselect | Ifaistos: thanks, looking now |
| 07:45.26 | Ifaistos | using 18threads was a bit too much probably ;) |
| 07:50.34 | koen | OE Build Configuration: |
| 07:50.34 | koen | BB_VERSION = "1.9.0" |
| 07:50.36 | koen | sweet |
| 07:50.42 | koen | bring on the GUI!! |
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| 08:00.03 | pH5 | RP: http://en.pastebin.ca/382057 to remove a SyntaxWarning? |
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| 09:00.55 | XorA | morning |
| 09:02.00 | koen | hey XorA |
| 09:02.30 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: pinged you on your bug |
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| 09:28.13 | Ifaistos | i think i found an issue with insane.bbclass |
| 09:28.25 | ade|desk | morning alll |
| 09:28.28 | ade|desk | -l |
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| 09:29.48 | Ifaistos | since the Q&A on packaging is done after the packaging stage is done, if an error is found, and try to build the package again it passes Q&A |
| 09:30.53 | Ifaistos | probably it will be a good idea to clear the stab of the stage that produced the Q&A error so it gets re-run next time |
| 09:32.32 | Ifaistos | The way it is now the only way to see if the package passes Q&A after any changes to the FILES stuff is to clear it and start all over |
| 09:34.05 | Ifaistos | have a look at this -> http://rafb.net/p/5Dc2K665.html |
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| 09:41.08 | zecke | Ifaistos: the packages will be empty in this case?! |
| 09:41.20 | zecke | Ifaistos: someone cleans the dir |
| 09:42.24 | zecke | Ifaistos: and package QA is part of the do_package task, it just succeeds, I didn't find the spot where it cleaned the dirs |
| 09:43.07 | Ifaistos | zecke: it makes no sense to fail the first time and pass the second |
| 09:43.25 | zecke | Ifaistos: I agree on that, but it checks the second time |
| 09:43.36 | zecke | Ifaistos: but there are no files inside the dirs, so there is nothing to check |
| 09:44.05 | zecke | Ifaistos: or this func is not ran in any case someone needs to look into it |
| 09:45.25 | Ifaistos | zecke: I am not sure why either, haven;t looked into insane |
| 09:45.55 | zecke | Ifaistos: there is PACKAGEFUNCS in package.bbclass |
| 09:46.05 | zecke | Ifaistos: insane adds itself as PACKAGEFUNCS and is ran |
| 09:46.19 | zecke | Ifaistos: could you find out if this insane PACKAGEFUNC is ran on the second time at all? |
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| 09:46.25 | zecke | (just add a print) |
| 09:46.52 | hrw | morning |
| 09:47.03 | Ifaistos | zecke: ok. will do |
| 09:50.16 | koen | hey hrw |
| 09:51.18 | zecke | thanks |
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| 10:07.20 | CIA-3 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r2260d3ac... 10/ (1 packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.2.14.bb): |
| 10:07.20 | CIA-3 | packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.2.14.bb: Several fixes |
| 10:07.20 | CIA-3 | Q&A issues move .debug out of asterisk packages |
| 10:07.20 | CIA-3 | Add asterisk app to 'telephony' section instead of Base |
| 10:07.20 | CIA-3 | Set correct working dir |
| 10:07.20 | CIA-3 | Make sure that all asterisk headers get copied to staging/include |
| 10:09.30 | CIA-3 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * re766ff2f... 10/ (1 packages/libesmtp/libesmtp_1.0.4.bb): packages/libesmtp/libesmtp_1.0.4.bb: Fix Q&A errors |
| 10:12.57 | CIA-3 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * raf4d56b8... 10/ (1 packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.2.14.bb): packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.2.14.bb: Add correct section console/telephony instead of telephony |
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| 10:28.03 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 10:30.02 | zecke | rwhitby: the usual -static and -static-libgcc on $LDFLAGS? |
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| 10:31.45 | florian | good morning |
| 10:32.19 | CoreDump|home | morning florian |
| 10:34.12 | rwhitby | zecke: is there an easy way to pass that to a configure script and make it stick? |
| 10:34.39 | zecke | rwhitby: just try LDFLAGS += " -static" in the OE recipe and see what happens |
| 10:34.48 | zecke | rwhitby: but static binaries with glibc are an illusion |
| 10:35.18 | zecke | rwhitby: depending on your config it will dlopen nis and pam modules which might not work |
| 10:35.36 | rwhitby | zecke: only need to remove the dependency on libusb |
| 10:35.51 | rwhitby | (at LaF0rge's request) |
| 10:36.39 | zecke | rwhitby: try -static and check how that works |
| 10:39.26 | rwhitby | seems to work. thx! |
| 10:40.31 | Ifaistos | zecke: well its executed both times. the question now is on what ipk files.... |
| 10:41.53 | zecke | Ifaistos: so it is empty the second time? |
| 10:42.00 | zecke | Ifaistos: print the files it looks at? |
| 10:43.07 | Ifaistos | zecke: ok |
| 10:44.08 | Ifaistos | zecke: insane does report the files it checks |
| 10:44.19 | Ifaistos | NOTE: Checking Package: asterisk-dbg |
| 10:44.32 | Ifaistos | zecke: both times |
| 10:44.51 | zecke | Ifaistos: interesting |
| 10:44.56 | Ifaistos | zecke: the question is if the actually exists and what they contain |
| 10:48.20 | Ifaistos | zecke: i am doing a clean build of the package so we can check at what state it is after the Q&A error |
| 11:00.58 | ade|desk | koen: just ordered the 30D at last |
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| 11:03.47 | koen | ade|desk: nice |
| 11:07.01 | ade|desk | koen: now all i need to do is nick your lenses ;) |
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| 11:14.20 | Ifaistos | On another kind of Q&A issues. Would it be possible for someone to start clearing gcc/glibc from all those arm specific patches that get applied regardless of which is the target ? |
| 11:15.13 | Ifaistos | If its not a generic patch, that effects all targets it should be added only for that target |
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| 11:16.55 | crink | does anyone have au1200-dev-kit_v1.0-r3.tar.gz ? |
| 11:23.52 | crink | nvm, i found it. |
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| 11:48.27 | Ifaistos | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.45 | Ifaistos | or you will need 68sec to encode 1 sec of speech |
| 11:49.27 | Ifaistos | oups sorry this was not intended for this channel |
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| 12:58.52 | hrw | ~curse x11 |
| 12:58.55 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, x11 ! |
| 13:00.40 | XorA | ~curse linux |
| 13:00.42 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, linux ! |
| 13:04.57 | LaF0rge | mh. file-native-4.20.0 doesn't even build? that's interesting |
| 13:04.58 | CIA-3 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r2538463f... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Portmap: Update to 5-26, previous version unfetchable |
| 13:07.01 | NAiL | damn, monotone.openembedded.org is slooooooooooow |
| 13:09.30 | RP | morning all |
| 13:10.01 | RP | pH5: Looks ok to me. Just a question of which versions to patch :) |
| 13:10.41 | koen|lab | LaF0rge: if you run it a second time it builds....... |
| 13:10.56 | koen|lab | LaF0rge: at which point I lost interest in fixing it, sorry |
| 13:10.57 | LaF0rge | koen: | softmagic.c:1529: error: `REG_STARTEND' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 13:11.04 | LaF0rge | koen: that one? |
| 13:11.13 | koen|lab | don't remember, sorry |
| 13:11.20 | hrw | sometimes I wonder does my kernel config is fscked or software which I use is shit. too often too many hangups in gui |
| 13:11.23 | LaF0rge | koen: seems like this definition is part of libboost-devel which is not necessarily installed on the host |
| 13:11.43 | LaF0rge | koen: no, problem persists |
| 13:12.24 | RP | pH5: How did you trigger that warning? python 2.5? |
| 13:13.02 | LaF0rge | koen: I'll investigate |
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| 13:14.55 | mr_nice | hi all |
| 13:15.11 | XorA | LaF0rge: file-native builds on openSuSe where I checked it in, Ill bet is a bloody difference in glibc |
| 13:15.41 | pH5 | RP: it was triggered by distutils when installing bitbake with the setup.py script. (python 2.4.4) |
| 13:16.59 | LaF0rge | xora: glibc-2.3.2 doesn't have that define in /usr/include/regex.h |
| 13:17.06 | LaF0rge | xora: glibc-2.3.6 does |
| 13:17.08 | koen|lab | LaF0rge: iirc XorA added file 4.20 |
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| 13:17.52 | XorA | LaF0rge: problem was 4.18 is unfetchable |
| 13:18.06 | LaF0rge | xora: we have PREMIRRORS to downloads.openmoko.org |
| 13:18.11 | zecke | NAiL: did you verify that it works? Policy was to go to archive.debian.org and to mirror that package! |
| 13:18.18 | LaF0rge | s/we/at least I/ |
| 13:18.51 | NAiL | zecke: Yes |
| 13:19.18 | XorA | what distro is using something as ancient as glibc 2.3.2 |
| 13:19.25 | LaF0rge | xora: debian sarge |
| 13:19.26 | zecke | XorA: debian stable? |
| 13:19.38 | LaF0rge | xora: pretty large deployment base, I'd say |
| 13:19.43 | XorA | debian we should have burried this years ago :-) |
| 13:20.23 | zecke | XorA: I bet Wolfson offers free upgrades to fedora or openSUSE? |
| 13:20.30 | LaF0rge | xora: show me any other distribution with binary packages which I can use the same revision on that many archs |
| 13:21.31 | LaF0rge | xora: I'm not a fan ofd ebian, but there's nothing that rusn on sparc/sparc64 ppc/ppc64, x86/x86_64, ... - and i want to have nfs-mounted home on all that boxes, whcih forces the same version of programs being installed on all of them. |
| 13:22.52 | zecke | besides that we should stop that file-native race. Just mirror one version and stay with it |
| 13:24.05 | NAiL | zecke: anyway, it's always possible to set the default preference to -1 on the new version. |
| 13:25.01 | zecke | NAiL: you kept the old version around? |
| 13:25.07 | NAiL | yes |
| 13:25.20 | LaF0rge | the old file tarball? it's all on downloads.openmoko.org/sources |
| 13:25.39 | LaF0rge | that directory gets never cleaned up and will just accumulate everything that our buildhost[s] fetch |
| 13:25.42 | NAiL | I don't delete old stuff until I'm pretty sure other people aren't using it, or there's a *lot* of old packages. |
| 13:25.47 | LaF0rge | also, we're planning to have round-robin dns mirrors for that. |
| 13:27.23 | zecke | NAiL: if it is unfetchable, find the sourcecode, place it on one of our mirrors and change the SRC_URI |
| 13:27.31 | XorA | time for glibc-native in OE :-) |
| 13:27.46 | zecke | NAiL: alternatively upgrade, verify that it works and remove the old version |
| 13:27.55 | zecke | NAiL: mixing of these two is not too sane |
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| 13:29.55 | NAiL | zecke: how do I place stuff on your mirrors? |
| 13:30.28 | zecke | NAiL: ask for an account, or point to the debian archive |
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| 13:41.17 | DoKu | hi all, musicpd has fixed mikmod support in svn. so there's no need for the fix-mod-support.patch in mpd_svn.bb any longer |
| 13:41.34 | zecke | DoKu: then remove the patch? |
| 13:42.24 | hrw | or add maxdate to it? |
| 13:42.25 | zecke | DoKu: alternatively add maxdate, but back to your FLUTE server? |
| 13:46.00 | koen|lab | zecke: it's mirrored on the angstrom mirrors |
| 13:46.14 | koen|lab | (as is everything in needed for console and x11 image) |
| 13:51.51 | oxo | koen|lab: I found out that RRECOMMEND'ing sub-tasks seems to build them |
| 13:52.10 | koen|lab | oxo: that's expected :) |
| 13:52.10 | oxo | I don't know if it's a feature or bug, but it strikes my intuition :-) |
| 13:52.33 | oxo | I assumed that (R)DEPEND'ing them would suffice |
| 13:52.38 | NAiL | koen|lab: so it should be enough to point to the angstrom mirror then? |
| 13:54.22 | RP | zecke: Have you read the forwarded omoko mail to oe-devel? |
| 13:54.46 | zecke | RP: no |
| 13:55.21 | zecke | hmm mail.openmoko.org is not the right spot for me |
| 13:57.37 | RP | zecke: They're hiring python developers to hack on bitbake? |
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| 13:57.38 | koen|lab | RP: iirc some dude called 'henryk' |
| 13:57.38 | zecke | RP: hired, so my answer is whatever :) |
| 14:01.12 | koen|lab | RP: there are a number of controversial wishes on that list, and I'm curious what other OE (core) devs think about it |
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| 14:01.42 | RP | I'm slightly frustrated that someone is going to do all this work without even talking to the bitbake developers |
| 14:01.44 | zecke | koen|lab: wait and let us look at the patches |
| 14:02.13 | koen|lab | zecke: I have no problem with the wishes, I just know they are controversial |
| 14:02.21 | koen|lab | e.g. cleaning sources and ipkgs |
| 14:02.31 | RP | koen|lab: They don't look that bad to me |
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| 14:03.55 | zecke | RP: I like the PR thingie, I wonder how to transport the information from do_fetch to do_package but this is left to the python expert |
| 14:03.57 | koen|lab | RP: I didn't say bad, I said controversial :) |
| 14:04.21 | koen|lab | RP: look at the recent outcry when deploy/ipk change behaviour slightly |
| 14:04.59 | RP | koen|lab: Its more about how you going about doing it, not what you did |
| 14:05.44 | RP | koen|lab: People like backwards compability and you have to have a good reason to break it. Your change didn't. |
| 14:06.21 | koen|lab | zecke: I don't think PR is a good place to store revisions, since an svn rev is part of the package version |
| 14:06.34 | koen|lab | zecke: especially if you start adding patches to a fixed svn rev |
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| 14:10.07 | zecke | koen|lab: I think the revision should be stored somewhere (place it in the control file). |
| 14:10.50 | zecke | koen|lab: but as mentioned in the mail it is " very |
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| 14:19.54 | hrw | zecke: 'p0+p1 or p1' mail? |
| 14:23.36 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: ping |
| 14:23.42 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: yo |
| 14:23.54 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: are you listed as the maintainer for kismet right now? |
| 14:24.00 | Zero_Chaos | I seem to recall a different name |
| 14:24.17 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: is me |
| 14:25.08 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: I didn't want to step on a toe and add that without asking, but if you would like to pass kismet officially to me that is fine. |
| 14:25.23 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: is cool with me, I dont use it much anymore |
| 14:25.40 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: it's what I do for a living so I will go ahead and take it then |
| 14:25.48 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: you have commit access by chance? |
| 14:26.07 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: yes, I shall commit your entry |
| 14:26.41 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: thanks, I edited the bug to add kismet (as if you couldn't) |
| 14:26.59 | Zero_Chaos | 1941 |
| 14:27.16 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: my name is already there but it's a stub so just replace it which what I've got please |
| 14:28.42 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: just about to push |
| 14:29.53 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: cool thanks. I'll close the bug |
| 14:30.12 | XorA | damn oe.org is running slow |
| 14:31.57 | Zero_Chaos | it happens, I closed the bug, I trust you will submit eventually |
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| 14:37.08 | hrw | ~curse python packagin |
| 14:37.17 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, python packagin ! |
| 14:37.17 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: I will as soon as monotone server answers |
| 14:37.17 | hrw | g |
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| 14:42.45 | LaF0rge | rP: reply sent |
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| 14:44.02 | LaF0rge | zecke/koen: and yes, it is very un-frss-software-like |
| 14:44.24 | LaF0rge | but then, FOSS doesn't have a strict release schedule with tons of corporate issues behind |
| 14:45.05 | LaF0rge | I found out that we need this feature about three days before I learned that I had to build the master image, about four weeks after mickey didn't have tiem to wokr on those issues anymore. |
| 14:45.08 | Zero_Chaos | XorA: thanks, running for a plane now. |
| 14:45.22 | Zero_Chaos | have a nice day all |
| 14:45.32 | XorA | Zero_Chaos: have fun |
| 14:45.47 | LaF0rge | xecke/koen: so what can I do? delay everything once again, or call in somebody who can write python to help. |
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| 14:46.48 | zecke | LaF0rge: communicate |
| 14:48.09 | robtaylor | zecke: well said |
| 14:48.53 | robtaylor | LaF0rge: failing to communicate because of deadlines will leave you in the same mess as maemo.. |
| 14:48.57 | zecke | LaF0rge: at least make sure he has the budget to integrate his changes upstream, this is the only way to standout. And I doubt you lacked the 10 minutes to talk with richard or me |
| 14:48.58 | LaF0rge | koen: and if it works, PV would also be fine with me, rather than PR |
| 14:48.58 | LaF0rge | zecke: wrt to your p0 phone: The first 36 have been shipped already |
| 14:48.59 | LaF0rge | zecke: if you didn't reply until yesterday, yours is not in the first batch, I'm afraid |
| 14:50.03 | LaF0rge | zecke: yes, as indicated in my last mail. we will have that code written three times, if required |
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| 14:51.07 | LaF0rge | zecke: I'm in favor of implementing something and proposing/discussing the patch afer it is proven to work |
| 14:51.26 | LaF0rge | zecke: then go through iterations of review. |
| 14:51.38 | robtaylor | LaF0rge: that depends on how invasive the patch is |
| 14:51.57 | robtaylor | LaF0rge: arge changes should be discussed up front in order to not waste time and effort |
| 14:52.05 | robtaylor | *large |
| 14:52.54 | LaF0rge | it's never a waste to have a working implementation of some feature, even a less than ideal one. |
| 14:52.56 | koen|lab | robtaylor: were deadlines the problem or the super-secret 770 successor with the communication? |
| 14:53.23 | koen|lab | LaF0rge: I don't have an opinion on bitbake matters |
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| 14:53.57 | robtaylor | koen|lab: in all commercial uses of open source deadlines are a problem, the hard bit is managing the balance |
| 14:54.17 | zecke | koen|lab: stay with matlab pal |
| 14:54.23 | robtaylor | LaF0rge: it is if the feature is the wrong feature |
| 14:54.40 | koen|lab | zecke: I need a symbolic solution to a large set of equations :( |
| 14:54.56 | ade|desk | me misses maple |
| 14:55.28 | LaF0rge | rob: that's how you might see it. nobody has ever indicated that we ask you to merge any of those changes, or that we would want to use them for anything more than to fix a temporary issue until a real solution can be found |
| 14:56.21 | robtaylor | LaF0rge: well, its your money that's being spent, i'm just suggesting that a small amount of initial communiation can save you costs |
| 14:56.46 | robtaylor | LaF0rge: i'm sure your aware of the costs of not having patches integrated |
| 14:56.52 | robtaylor | *you're |
| 14:57.08 | zecke | LaF0rge: When writing a patch you normally know where this fits in the big picture? For a newbie communication is certainly the key to understand the system regardles of time preassure. Anyway it is too late to argue, looking forward for the approach(es) |
| 14:57.20 | koen|lab | LaF0rge: but for all the bitching we do, we do still love openmoko for being so open :) |
| 14:58.03 | LaF0rge | rob/koen: you can bitch all day long, as much as you please :) |
| 14:58.08 | zecke | koen|lab: to bitch about something else, I'm stracing qtopia and the qpe process is polling like hell (10 files, twice a second) |
| 14:58.24 | robtaylor | LaF0rge: i'm not actually bitching. |
| 14:59.15 | LaF0rge | koen said that, not me :) |
| 14:59.20 | robtaylor | heh |
| 14:59.36 | robtaylor | koen definitly bitches ;) |
| 14:59.43 | koen|lab | robtaylor: coming to celf? |
| 14:59.57 | robtaylor | koen|lab: probably.. |
| 15:00.35 | oxo | koen|lab: matlab actually can solve thing the symbolic way |
| 15:00.47 | oxo | there is a maple-kernel stashed in some toolkit |
| 15:01.09 | hrw | I'm starting to love autotools. it is much better then distutils in python |
| 15:01.16 | hrw | and thats scary |
| 15:02.22 | robtaylor | hrw: yay, someone appreciating autotools. that makes a change :) |
| 15:02.41 | hrw | robtaylor: python distutils is nightmare compared to m4 |
| 15:03.03 | robtaylor | hrw: yeah, i know what you mean |
| 15:03.44 | koen|lab | m4 still makes my eyes bleed |
| 15:04.11 | robtaylor | actually i think m4 is the easy+nice bit |
| 15:04.23 | robtaylor | its automake that i kinda dont fully like |
| 15:04.51 | zecke | robtaylor: have you read the "Recursive make considered evil" essay? |
| 15:04.57 | robtaylor | zecke: aye |
| 15:05.14 | zecke | robtaylor: use unsermake (and forget it is from KDE...) |
| 15:05.15 | robtaylor | zecke: you can do either in modern automake |
| 15:05.28 | zecke | robtaylor: which version is modern? |
| 15:05.40 | robtaylor | 1.9 |
| 15:06.07 | koen|lab | zecke: please stop imitating JustinP by sending 2 identical mails to oe-devel |
| 15:06.24 | robtaylor | hmm, actually i think you could do non-recurive am before that, but i wont touch anything before 1.9 |
| 15:06.28 | zecke | koen|lab: ;) I just stop using apple mail |
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| 15:13.32 | hrw | fscking python |
| 15:13.55 | zecke | DoKu: well done :) |
| 15:14.25 | zecke | DoKu: want to have a cookie? where did you place them anyway? |
| 15:14.48 | koen|lab | D'oh! |
| 15:14.59 | koen|lab | pi != Pi in maple |
| 15:15.06 | zecke | hehe |
| 15:15.14 | koen|lab | it will show the same symbol however |
| 15:15.47 | hrw | Pi is const and pi is variable? |
| 15:15.51 | koen|lab | yes |
| 15:16.27 | koen|lab | theta[50] = 0.1 * pi will give 0.1Ï€ and theta[50] = 0.1 * Pi will give 0.1Ï€ |
| 15:16.44 | koen|lab | the solver dislikes the former, though |
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| 15:17.19 | zecke | LaF0rge: My code can only extract BugZilla (not using xmlrpc), filing bugreports automatically would be trivial as well |
| 15:17.36 | DoKu | zecke: the shelf behind me :) |
| 15:17.49 | zecke | LaF0rge: basicly an integrated autobuild, bugtracker, installation system is one of my idle tasks |
| 15:18.58 | koen|lab | evalf(Pi,10000) |
| 15:19.04 | XorA | anyone got a gcc 4.X.X cross toolchain for arm OABI lieing around? |
| 15:19.14 | CM | *nods* |
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| 15:21.17 | koen|lab | zecke: did you see that cairo is using the new quartz backend for 1.3.16 on osx? |
| 15:22.13 | zecke | koen|lab: no, so a native gtk+ should work better nowadays? |
| 15:22.40 | koen|lab | I think so |
| 15:23.13 | koen|lab | I never bothered to build a native gtk+ |
| 15:23.22 | koen|lab | the imendio build scripts scared me |
| 15:23.46 | hrw | if I run python/distutils crap in do_compile then where it tries to check for python extensions which it want? |
| 15:25.11 | koen|lab | hrw: for python stuff you need a special m4 iirc |
| 15:25.15 | LaF0rge | 'portmap 2.25 is gone' problem is not known yet?!? bugs.openembedded.org doesn't list anything |
| 15:25.43 | hrw | LaF0rge: we have 5-26 already |
| 15:25.55 | hrw | or other but current |
| 15:26.02 | LaF0rge | hrw: since when? I did a mtn pull about three hours ago |
| 15:26.05 | hrw | 05 14:09 < CIA-3> nail org.oe.dev * r2538463f... / (4 files in 3 dirs): Portmap: Update to 5-26, previous version unfetchable |
| 15:26.14 | hrw | 2.5h ago |
| 15:26.15 | koen|lab | [14:04] CIA-3: nail org.oe.dev * r2538463f... / (4 files in 3 dirs): Portmap: Update to 5-26, previous version unfetchable |
| 15:26.20 | LaF0rge | ok, thanks |
| 15:26.36 | hrw | koen|lab: m4 IF autotools are used |
| 15:26.43 | hrw | koen|lab: this crap use distutils |
| 15:29.09 | florian | Do we still use "bl" on any platform? |
| 15:30.06 | hvontres|poodle | RP: did the naming for the SD slot change in recent versions of linux-rp-2.6.20? I was trying to boot the latest build from SD, but I got a kernel panic stating that mmcblk0p1 was not there. |
| 15:30.24 | hvontres|poodle | RP: That worked ~ 2weeks ago tho... |
| 15:30.51 | hrw | florian: 2.4 collie? |
| 15:31.25 | florian | hmm.. and on 2.4 iPAQ maybe |
| 15:31.40 | koen|lab | hvontres|poodle: rootdelay=5 ? |
| 15:32.06 | florian | I just wrote a task for gpe-conf that does the same and uses more or less the same syntax. |
| 15:32.21 | florian | I think about shipping a small script that just replaces bl. |
| 15:32.52 | florian | As gpe-conf supports these devices it should be safe... |
| 15:34.35 | hrw | florian: people can use bl without X11 iirc |
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| 15:43.59 | hvontres|poodle | koen|lab: I tried both 3 and 5. The thing is, rootdelay =3 worked on 2.6.20 builds from ~2 weeks ago. I should probably check the defconfig files to see if something got borked threre. |
| 15:45.19 | koen|lab | hvontres|poodle: the mmc system could be initializing slower |
| 15:47.07 | hvontres|poodle | koen|lab: hmmm...ok. I'll try some really long root delays when I get home. But the naming convetions have not changed, right? |
| 15:47.19 | koen|lab | they shouldn't |
| 15:49.38 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: Do you think we should try to use new image recipies similar to the ones for angstrom for OZ-3.5.5? I made a copy of Commandline-image.bb for testing this weeked, and It seems to build fine. I just need to work out some issues with 2.6.20 not booting right. |
| 15:49.40 | florian | hrw: right... so if you have an image without GPE you use the old bl. |
| 15:50.09 | florian | it will just replace the (imho not maintained) old one. |
| 15:50.10 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: try what ever you want |
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| 15:51.44 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: ok. I was thinking that way we would stay kinda current with the improvements in OE. I'll work on it some more this week and add stuff to the bugtracker when it works. |
| 15:52.09 | koen|lab | hvontres|poodle: if you think that way, you would be using angstrom instead of oz ;) |
| 15:53.45 | hrw | I created hardcore recipe: 154 lines |
| 15:54.17 | RP | hvontres|poodle: My kernel ssays the naming hasn't changed |
| 15:56.23 | hvontres|poodle | koen|lab: Well, my thought process was that since this was sort of a bridge release between Oz and Angstrom, this would actully make lots of sense. It would be kinda like Angsrom-oabi with glibc 2.3 and compiled on gcc 3.4.x |
| 15:56.50 | hvontres|poodle | RP: thanks. I'll play with rootdelay some more then... |
| 15:57.21 | hvontres|poodle | ~lart kexec for not changing CMDLINE correctly |
| 15:58.14 | chouimat | wow |
| 15:58.24 | hvontres|poodle | koen|lab: also, I am planning on using Angstrom in the neear future :) |
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| 16:00.02 | hvontres|poodle | chouimat: why wow? |
| 16:00.14 | chouimat | the lart |
| 16:00.51 | hvontres|poodle | chouimat: yeah, I like that one myself. That and the one about the fleas from camels.... |
| 16:01.35 | chouimat | hvontres|poodle: at least the kittens are not horny ;) |
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| 16:09.51 | koen|lab | there's 40 minutes of my life I won't get back |
| 16:10.46 | chouimat | koen|lab: I want the last 7 years back :) |
| 16:10.59 | koen|lab | I can say that next year |
| 16:12.25 | koen|lab | We would do better if mr euler would be looking over our shoulders |
| 16:13.14 | koen|lab | and saying things like "cosine, you fool!" |
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| 16:41.09 | nm | hi * |
| 16:42.11 | nm | i want to buy one PDA w/ support wifi,keyboard and linux os, have anybody recomment some model ? |
| 16:50.09 | xuumbi | I'm attempting to create a scew-0.4.0 bitbake recipe, but it's failing during the configure stage with these errors: |
| 16:50.38 | xuumbi | automake: unknown warning category `cross' |
| 16:50.38 | xuumbi | doc/Makefile.am:13: DOC does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 16:50.38 | xuumbi | Makefile.am:16: DOC does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL |
| 16:50.38 | xuumbi | autoreconf: automake failed with exit status: 1 |
| 16:50.39 | xuumbi | FATAL: autoreconf execution failed. |
| 16:50.51 | xuumbi | any ideas? |
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| 17:12.40 | xuumbi | hmmm, looks like I need to understand how automake uses AM_CONDITIONAL... |
| 17:17.05 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie * r787 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): shell.py: Fix syntax warning reported by pH5 |
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| 17:56.17 | xuumbi | anyone know how to get rid of these warnings from my log files? |
| 17:56.19 | xuumbi | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 17:56.19 | xuumbi | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
| 17:56.19 | xuumbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.19 | xuumbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.19 | xuumbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.20 | xuumbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.22 | xuumbi | perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"). |
| 17:58.33 | hrw | xuumbi: read this once again and you will know |
| 18:00.56 | koen | grrrr |
| 18:01.01 | koen | ~lart yaffs(2) |
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| 18:04.31 | tnb | has anyone gotten NPTL version of gcc/glibc working? I tried building glibc-intermediate and it says that __thread is required. I added --with-__thread to gcc build but that doesn't help. |
| 18:04.34 | hrw | Crofton|home: ping? |
| 18:05.05 | chouimat | yaffs(2)? |
| 18:05.47 | koen | chouimat: yet another (broken) flash file system |
| 18:06.02 | chouimat | koen ok ... |
| 18:06.03 | koen | tnb: DISTRO=angstrom-2007.1 |
| 18:06.55 | tnb | koen: thanks, I'll look at your config |
| 18:07.07 | koen | or just use it :) |
| 18:07.27 | tnb | eventually, yes, but I need something quick for fam084 |
| 18:08.04 | koen | heh |
| 18:09.07 | tnb | koen: yeah, that's one thing about having a commercial release... can't just switch immediately. :-/ |
| 18:09.20 | tnb | (commercial product) |
| 18:09.38 | koen | ntpl is an ABI break as well.... |
| 18:09.48 | tnb | yeah :-( |
| 18:10.14 | koen | that's why mickeyl and I started angstrom, to get all such breakage in one go |
| 18:10.29 | koen | gcc3 -> gcc4, posixthreads -> ntpl, oabi-eabi, etc |
| 18:11.18 | tnb | yes, that's the next planned break here, but when the largest customer calls... |
| 18:11.31 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra830198d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-gta01: update to moko8 patchset |
| 18:13.38 | tnb | koen: you have a timeframe for angstrom 2007.1 "release"? |
| 18:13.55 | koen | tnb: not yet |
| 18:14.09 | koen | tnb: I think now is a good think to get thinking about making a release |
| 18:14.21 | koen | s/good think/good time/ |
| 18:14.38 | koen | need to finish this uni term first |
| 18:15.03 | Ifaistos | koen : 'Political Correct' answer should be ala Debian.... "when its ready" |
| 18:15.11 | tnb | :) |
| 18:16.04 | hvontres|poodle | "Are we there yet Papa Smurf?"..."Five more minutes"... |
| 18:17.25 | chouimat | hvontres|poodle: :) |
| 18:18.55 | tnb | koen: but to your knowledge nptl doesn't require gcc 4.x? |
| 18:20.09 | koen | tnb: it shouldn't |
| 18:20.17 | koen | but I never tested it |
| 18:20.46 | zecke | koen: did you package glibc 2.4 yet? |
| 18:21.10 | koen | zecke: 2.4 is broken for arm and probably more archs |
| 18:22.35 | koen | probably a missing PREFERRED_PROVIDER |
| 18:23.06 | LaF0rge | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_gconf = "gconf-dbus" |
| 18:23.31 | hrw | good point |
| 18:26.08 | hrw | LaF0rge: next commit is for you |
| 18:26.18 | LaF0rge | hrw: thanks :) |
| 18:26.57 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0303d429... 10/ (9 files in 3 dirs): gconf-osso: drop it, part of the maemo clean up |
| 18:27.20 | zecke | LaF0rge: do you just want automatic bug reporting on build issues, or something more powerful (e.g. keeping track of runtime 'results')? |
| 18:27.20 | LaF0rge | hrw: just being curious: what is 'the maemo cleanup' |
| 18:27.47 | LaF0rge | zecke: what are runtime 'results'? |
| 18:27.53 | hrw | LaF0rge: OE contain maemo from IT2005 which is atleast 2-4 releases old |
| 18:28.06 | LaF0rge | hrw: ok, i see |
| 18:28.25 | hrw | LaF0rge: and it is scheduled for removal but as I have too much other things to do I do not removed it yet |
| 18:28.44 | zecke | LaF0rge: using devintrigator to flash rootfs, boot, use exmap to keep track of base memory footprint, run dogtail tests on the gui |
| 18:29.34 | LaF0rge | zecke: no, that's out of the question for now |
| 18:29.54 | LaF0rge | zecke maybe at some point way further down the road, but we'll think about that later. |
| 18:30.00 | LaF0rge | for now it's really about build issues |
| 18:30.16 | LaF0rge | we want to be the first to learn if something doesn't build, to improve the 'build experience' of external developers ;) |
| 18:30.18 | CIA-3 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re0d98822... 10/ (10 files in 4 dirs): maemo: moved gconf-osso, osso-gnome-vfs2 to obsolete/maemo/ |
| 18:30.46 | koen | LaF0rge: you mean 'the first to act', right? |
| 18:31.13 | hrw | btw - gps part is eabi already? |
| 18:31.23 | zecke | LaF0rge: how do you currently view the results of an autobuild? |
| 18:32.05 | Ifaistos | could someone please explain what is the difference between the different ARM abis ? |
| 18:32.39 | koen | Ifaistos: 90% marketing, 10% clean up of a historical mess |
| 18:32.52 | zecke | Ifaistos: alignment, syscall convention |
| 18:32.52 | koen | Ifaistos: see http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort |
| 18:33.27 | LaF0rge | koen: 'the first to learn about and act accordingly' |
| 18:33.46 | LaF0rge | hrw: don't ask me about GPS. the current nightmare, since yesterday. |
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| 18:34.04 | zecke | LaF0rge: just to know your requirement. If a build fails you want to have a bug report? That simple? |
| 18:35.22 | LaF0rge | zecke: yes, that would be the current demand. plus something that automatically schedules rebuilds, both incremental (only what dependency tracking thinks should be rebuilt, for new packages) as well as full rebuilds from scratch |
| 18:35.54 | zecke | LaF0rge: Ah, so an autobuilder+reporting |
| 18:35.58 | LaF0rge | zecke: obviously that could be enhanced to also contain information about the latest successful build for each package or whatever - but that's not really the requirement, rather some gimmick that we can do later |
| 18:36.03 | LaF0rge | zecke: yes |
| 18:36.24 | hrw | RP: ping |
| 18:36.29 | zecke | LaF0rge: as simple as firing up bitbake five times, cleaning and rebuilding from scratch, and after a while throw sourcecode away as well? |
| 18:37.36 | LaF0rge | zecke: yes. basically there could be two different setups. one that only does incremential builds (fast, soon after new .bb file has been committed, that job could run every couple of minutes), and one that is more long-term and does something like one complete rebuild per day |
| 18:37.51 | CIA-3 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r413b4397... 10/ (1 packages/openssh/openssh_4.3p2.bb): packages/openssh/openssh_4.3p2.bb: Fix Q&A errors. Remove debug files from openssh-misc |
| 18:38.44 | koen | EABI openmoko images, freshly built: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20070305/fic-gta01/ |
| 18:39.36 | zecke | LaF0rge: build results should be send to something like http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showbuilds.pl?tree=poky (well we currently have no autobuilds as my server equipment is gone)? |
| 18:39.39 | LaF0rge | hrw: regarding GPS, I don't know what I can state publically, sorry. but since we have one really bad news item every day, this was the last one |
| 18:39.56 | zecke | LaF0rge: or is a binary build okay? Good/Bad? |
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| 18:40.33 | hrw | ok |
| 18:41.05 | LaF0rge | zecke: the bugzilla reports should contain stdout/stderr of the failing build. for some website a good/bad thing seems sufficient |
| 18:42.57 | zecke | LaF0rge: you might want something like a/the tinderbox (as dashboard) + little change to tinderclient.bbclass to automatically bugreports + script to start builds |
| 18:43.49 | koen | LaF0rge: failures in openmoko* sent to bugzilla.openmoko and other failures to bugs.openembedded? |
| 18:44.15 | LaF0rge | koen: sounds reasonable |
| 18:44.35 | koen | LaF0rge: I just thought of that :) |
| 18:44.36 | zecke | LaF0rge: I will stop paid work in about 30 minutes and can look into an interim solution for reporting bugs automatically |
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| 18:45.05 | zecke | LaF0rge: if your bugmaster could create a component for autobuilds, I'm not forced to spam your bugzilla |
| 18:45.30 | LaF0rge | zecke: bugmaster/.../ : in the end about anything comes down to me ;) |
| 18:46.02 | zecke | I know |
| 18:46.06 | koen | when's mickeyl back from holidays? |
| 18:46.14 | LaF0rge | zecke: we already have "OE bitbake recipes / build system" |
| 18:46.27 | LaF0rge | but then, it might be something else that causes the problem, so a different product might be better |
| 18:47.11 | hvontres|poodle | LaF0rge: Out of curiosity, are you planning to do package upgrades only over USB or also standalone? |
| 18:47.36 | LaF0rge | zecke: there's now autobuilds |
| 18:47.45 | pgfeller | hvontres|poodle: Hello .-) |
| 18:48.15 | LaF0rge | hvontres: yes, obviously there will be ipk feeds |
| 18:48.15 | pgfeller | hvontres|poodle: uahhh ... I lost one eye |
| 18:48.28 | LaF0rge | hvontres: even for phase0 we should have one |
| 18:48.43 | zecke | LaF0rge: and to utilize my sith power: You want to commit to the grand unified testing plot |
| 18:48.50 | hvontres|poodle | LaF0rge: If you are using USB, then maybe the solution to the ipkg problems would be to come up with a way for the host to "pre-process" the feed information so the phone doesn't have to do the heavy lifting |
| 18:48.51 | LaF0rge | hvontres: but still, since BT and GPRS support are not really up to it, those ipk's will most likely come via usbnet ;) |
| 18:49.12 | hvontres|poodle | pgfeller: ouch.. |
| 18:49.13 | LaF0rge | hvontres: no, the device should be able to do this via BT/GRPS in the end |
| 18:49.32 | LaF0rge | koen: i think it's just one week, so he should be back next weekend |
| 18:49.59 | pgfeller | hvontres|poodle: :-) ... it is back ... - just a little update for you: if you plan to build fbvncserver . use a CVS date prior to this weekend (as I've started to do experiments with keymaps) |
| 18:50.14 | hvontres|poodle | LaF0rge: ok. Just a thought. |
| 18:51.15 | koen | LaF0rge: I'm keeping my fingers crossed to get the neo in time to show it at bossaconference |
| 18:51.30 | hvontres|poodle | pgfeller: Ok. Actually, I have a build from ~2 weeks ago that I haven't had a chance to test yet :( I was playing around with OZ 3.5.5 this weekend. Maybe tonight I can try to install it. |
| 18:51.33 | koen | LaF0rge: with some luck bmidgley can test bluetooth headset support |
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| 18:52.20 | pgfeller | hvontres|poodle: np ... I have plenty of things on my list I'll play with meanwhile (the above mentioned support for keymaps ...) |
| 18:52.50 | LaF0rge | koen: yeah, that's nice but one of those less important issues. Also, bluez are currently reorganizing their whole architecture, so I'm not really sure where we will go |
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| 18:55.34 | koen | LaF0rge: lets hope the bluez dudes come up with something nice |
| 18:57.43 | CIA-3 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r6063cf44... 10/ (1 packages/modutils/modutils-collateral.bb): |
| 18:57.43 | CIA-3 | packages/modutils/modutils-collateral.bb: Modprobe has changed between 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. |
| 18:57.43 | CIA-3 | The information in /etc/modutils and /etc/modules.conf is not read under 2.6. |
| 18:57.43 | CIA-3 | 2.6 uses a /etc/modprobe.d directory, and it does not need a |
| 18:57.43 | CIA-3 | "/etc/modprobe.conf" file; it reads all the appropriate *.conf files and |
| 18:57.43 | CIA-3 | compiles the information at boot time. |
| 18:57.47 | CIA-3 | This commit closes bug #808 |
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| 19:00.05 | hrw | cu |
| 19:00.13 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: later :) |
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| 19:01.26 | Ifaistos | koen : how do you create the feed initially in the webserver ? there are a lot dirs, locales for example that need to be created for the feed-scripts to work. Do you have a init-script of some kind or by hand ? |
| 19:04.25 | hrw|gone | Ifaistos: look into contrib/ dir |
| 19:04.30 | hrw|gone | Ifaistos: in .dev |
| 19:07.46 | Ifaistos | hrw|gone : do this scripts create the dirs if you run them to the webserver ? |
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| 19:28.40 | koen | Ifaistos: I create the dirs by hand (base/ debug/ perl/ etc/) and one locate dir (locales/en), the rest is done by the index script |
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| 19:40.40 | koen | Ifaistos: nice job on fixing the QA issues |
| 19:42.04 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb6830b0e... 10/ (1 packages/cairo/cairo_git.bb): cairo git: bump PV |
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| 19:53.30 | mrdata | hi mr_nice, all |
| 19:54.27 | LaF0rge | guess this will please you: we have synced with OE mainline e2dbb52fe39df7ef786b6068f6178f29508dfded n ow |
| 19:54.30 | LaF0rge | now |
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| 19:55.38 | mrdata | mr_nice: cs3 latch for simpad is working again with kernel26 |
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| 20:11.38 | mr_nice | mrdata: hi |
| 20:12.43 | mr_nice | mrdata: what exactly do you mean? |
| 20:13.48 | mr_nice | mrdata: with kernel26 do you mean the hh.org kernel tree or vanilla 2.6.20 one? |
| 20:14.31 | koen | LaF0rge: synced in what way? |
| 20:14.46 | koen | LaF0rge: did you drop the recipes present in OE from svn? |
| 20:15.48 | mrdata | mr_nice: the kernel from oe with patches from you |
| 20:15.58 | koen | LaF0rge: nevermind, I found the svnweb link :) |
| 20:16.57 | mr_nice | mrdata: what do you mean with cs3 latch is working again? |
| 20:17.39 | mr_nice | mrdata: btw the mq200 driver is from zecke |
| 20:17.56 | mrdata | mr_nice: use of /proc/cs3 and /proc/sys/board/ |
| 20:18.09 | mr_nice | mrdata: cool did you hack it? |
| 20:19.05 | mrdata | mr_nice: transfer the old kernel24 sys-board-patch to kernel26 |
| 20:19.34 | mrdata | mr_nice: and do little modification |
| 20:19.49 | mr_nice | mrdata: can you give me the patch? |
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| 20:20.27 | mrdata | mr_nice: this is one of my problem |
| 20:20.49 | mr_nice | mrdata: what is the problem about? |
| 20:21.07 | mrdata | mr_nice: have never do it before |
| 20:21.25 | mr_nice | mrdata: creating a patch file? |
| 20:22.12 | mrdata | mr_nice: yes, i work a little hardcore, testing |
| 20:22.50 | mrdata | mr_nice: but, give me some time |
| 20:24.06 | mrdata | mr_nice: and i will try a patch and send it to you |
| 20:24.27 | mr_nice | mrdata: :) |
| 20:24.51 | mr_nice | mrdata: you can create a patch by having a copy of the sourcetree without your changes |
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| 20:26.37 | mr_nice | mrdata: name it how you want. then you just need to do something like diff -uNr linux-2.6.20.original linux-2.6.20 > your.patch |
| 20:27.23 | mr_nice | mrdata the linux-2.6.20 is the dir in which you did the changes |
| 20:27.45 | mrdata | mr_nice: okay, the way is clear |
| 20:28.29 | mr_nice | mrdata: would be very nice to have the cs3 latch stuff because of the mods |
| 20:30.07 | mr_nice | mrdata: can you write me a mail if you are completed ? I do not know how often I am here when you are here |
| 20:30.43 | mrdata | mr_nice: i will use my 1GB mmc again, and yes i write a mail to you |
| 20:30.59 | mr_nice | mrdata: thx! |
| 20:31.33 | mr_nice | mrdata: did you found time to test the image a bit? does the simpad wakes up if it was in suspend mode? |
| 20:32.18 | mrdata | mr_nice: no, the first thing was to disable the suspend |
| 20:33.22 | mrdata | mr_nice: suspend is not complete, the green led will be on |
| 20:34.17 | mrdata | mr_nice: resume is not possible (with power switch) and screen is dead |
| 20:34.33 | mr_nice | mrdata: same on my simpad |
| 20:35.01 | mrdata | mr_nice: only the hard-reset works then |
| 20:35.25 | mr_nice | mrdata: zecke mentioned to add some code to check if it tries to wake up. I will try as soon as I will finde some time for it |
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| 20:36.06 | mr_nice | mrdata: I think this and the bug at the mq200 driver are the most important things to do. |
| 20:37.13 | mr_nice | mrdata: it is nice to know that there are more people who owns a simpad :). |
| 20:37.22 | mrdata | mr_nice: i have a view of apm, apmd, + simpad_pm from kernel24 |
| 20:38.01 | mr_nice | mrdata: :) |
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| 20:38.26 | mrdata | mr_nice: i have two (SL4 and SLC), my girlfrind have also a SL4 |
| 20:38.55 | mr_nice | mrdata: cool - I have a T-Sinus and a SL4 |
| 20:39.43 | mr_nice | mrdata: they are just very nice devices |
| 20:40.01 | mr_nice | mrdata: and it would be verry cool to have a complete 2.6 on them |
| 20:40.10 | mrdata | mr_nice: yes, with a big screen ;-)) |
| 20:40.59 | mr_nice | mrdata: yes the size is perfect |
| 20:41.08 | mrdata | mr_nice: minimo and firefox was usable |
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| 20:41.37 | mrdata | mr_nice: with kernel24 and gpe2.7 |
| 20:41.37 | mr_nice | mrdata: you have the 128MB mod? |
| 20:42.12 | mrdata | mr_nice: yes, this was the only way to test firefox and minimo |
| 20:42.53 | mr_nice | mrdata: I will also do the mod. do you think it is worth the work? |
| 20:43.01 | gremlin[it] | hi all ! |
| 20:43.45 | mrdata | mr_nice: with the right know how, it is not easy |
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| 20:44.36 | mrdata | mr_nice: 2 chips, hot air, good microscop |
| 20:44.51 | mr_nice | mrdata: did you had a desoldering station? |
| 20:45.44 | mrdata | mr_nice: no, only hot hair |
| 20:45.50 | mr_nice | mrdata: I saw them on ebay |
| 20:46.02 | mrdata | mr_nice: sorry, air |
| 20:46.21 | mr_nice | mrdata: with a hair dryer? |
| 20:46.47 | mrdata | mr_nice: no |
| 20:47.24 | mrdata | mr_nice: 400-500W hot air |
| 20:47.49 | mr_nice | mrdata: how hot was the air |
| 20:48.05 | mr_nice | cm: i think mr_cm would be a cool nick ;) |
| 20:48.53 | mrdata | mr_nice: i have it at work, 400 degree celsius |
| 20:49.34 | mrdata | mr_nice: the problem is, you have short time to do the work |
| 20:50.23 | mrdata | mr_nice: too much hot air, and the rest of your board damaged |
| 20:50.32 | mr_nice | mrdata: I'll better practice on an old mainboard then |
| 20:50.34 | CM | mr_nice: Hehe.. |
| 20:52.12 | mrdata | mr_nice: i had repair handys so called level3 |
| 20:53.19 | mrdata | mr_nice: many flash's, ram's and processors |
| 20:53.54 | mrdata | mr_nice: and now we build wireless modules |
| 20:54.01 | mr_nice | mrdata: maybee you can get some chips? |
| 20:54.40 | mrdata | mr_nice: no, the production of the chips we need has stop |
| 20:55.52 | mrdata | mr_nice: the flash is NOR and the ram is PC100/PC133 SD-RAM |
| 20:57.10 | mrdata | mr_nice: the only way for me was to use a PC133 SO-DIMMs for notebook with the right rams |
| 20:57.18 | mr_nice | mrdata: there is a serial wlan and serial bluetooth chip from philips. |
| 20:58.24 | mrdata | mr_nice: i have do the mmc-mod and the bluetooth-mod, the hardware is okay now |
| 20:58.34 | mr_nice | mrdata: you used memory chips from a normal PC133 SD- Ram module - cool |
| 20:59.15 | mrdata | mr_nice: i have read a long time datasheet |
| 21:00.33 | mr_nice | mrdata: maybee you are the right one for the usb mod ;) http://opensimpad.org/index.php/Possible_Mods |
| 21:00.40 | mrdata | mr_nice: found parts from MTD, a module with the right configuration |
| 21:01.41 | mrdata | mr_nice: i build over 1 1/2 years on the mods, little time problems |
| 21:02.06 | mr_nice | mrdata: no problem :) |
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| 21:03.07 | mr_nice | mrdata: I also have time problems - the kernel is more importent |
| 21:04.38 | mrdata | mr_nice: is okay, i`will do my best to help you |
| 21:04.57 | mr_nice | mrdata: thx! |
| 21:06.19 | mrdata | mr_nice: first kernel26, screen; second mmc+bluetooth |
| 21:06.59 | mrdata | mr_nice: also cf card is usable by me |
| 21:07.12 | mr_nice | mrdata: on 2.6? |
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| 21:07.48 | mrdata | mr_nice: yes, you must enable ide support in kernel config |
| 21:08.49 | mrdata | mr_data: then you can enable use ide with pcmcia |
| 21:09.32 | mr_nice | mrdata: I will change the kernel config |
| 21:09.55 | mrdata | mr_nice: i have modify the default config for that |
| 21:11.01 | mr_nice | mrdata: I will write you a mail and give you r/w rights on sf.net slackpad svn |
| 21:11.06 | mrdata | mr_nice: the tricky part is: how to use the cf card with fs support |
| 21:11.28 | mrdata | mr_nice: ups, thx! |
| 21:13.57 | mr_nice | mrdata: I think it is faster to do the simpad kernel work there as to do it on oe because we do not have rw on oe |
| 21:14.02 | mrdata | mr_nice: i had need fat, vfat and msdos, but the right changes in .bb files is not easy for me |
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| 21:15.15 | mrdata | mr_nice: thats okay for me, but the building system from oe is great, i think |
| 21:15.41 | mr_nice | mrdata: yes the buildsystem is great |
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| 21:17.53 | mrdata | mr_nice: doing the work, then we could send it back to oe |
| 21:18.32 | mr_nice | mrdata: I will change the .bb file for the modules and send it to you |
| 21:19.07 | mrdata | mr_nice: supi, thx! |
| 21:21.33 | mr_nice | mrdata: no problem |
| 21:21.58 | mr_nice | mrdata: I hope I will find tomorrow some time for it |
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| 21:24.34 | mrdata | mr_nice: is okay, i have build a extra file hirachy, put the right modules inside, then create a new image |
| 21:25.30 | mrdata | mr_nice: since yesterday, its working |
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| 21:29.20 | mr_nice | mrdata: I hope I will find some time to upload a angstrom image, so that more people are able to test it and see that there are some advantages on 2.6 |
| 21:29.34 | mrdata | mr_nice: the time is over now, i need some sleep (i'am a little ill) |
| 21:29.55 | mr_nice | mrdata: second that - see you |
| 21:30.03 | mrdata | mr_nice: thats great, bye |
| 21:31.11 | xuumbi | when using svn for SRC_URI in a recipe, is there a way to tell it to grab the most recent revision or do I have to specify rev each build? |
| 21:31.47 | xuumbi | the bitbake manual is no help :( |
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| 21:38.41 | ich | sorry took a bit longer to finish this stuff, spare time starts now |
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| 21:57.17 | ich | woglinde: hey |
| 21:57.17 | woglinde | he zecke |
| 21:57.36 | woglinde | I looked a little bit more on phoneme |
| 21:57.43 | RP | zecke: bitbake 1.8.0 is a week away ;-) |
| 21:57.48 | woglinde | but it suckz documentation is old |
| 21:58.48 | RP | rwhitby: Did you test that kernel image patch I gave you much? |
| 22:00.47 | zecke | RP: good :) |
| 22:05.30 | rwhitby | RP: just woke up - will respond in an hour or two (have to catch bus) |
| 22:05.43 | RP | rwhitby: np |
| 22:06.48 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r34846c18... 10/ (1 classes/image.bbclass conf/bitbake.conf): image.bbclass: Create symlink to latest image generated. Also add dependency on populate staging for do_rootfs (both from poky) |
| 22:06.52 | CIA-3 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * ra81f6f87... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Add DEPLOY_DIR_TOOLS |
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| 22:28.20 | Crofton | anyone ever use wxwidgets with OE? |
| 22:29.25 | zecke | LaF0rge: two options: Install python2.4 on the autobuilder, make reporting bugs to the autobuild component work without password |
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| 22:32.29 | RP | rwhitby: Did you test that kernel image patch I gave you much? |
| 22:32.32 | RP | sorry |
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| 22:45.55 | hvontres|poodle | morning CoreDump|home :) |
| 22:46.02 | CoreDump|home | hi hvontres|poodle =) |
| 22:54.58 | zecke | LaF0rge: going home now, I have not made too much progress as I have been struggling with cookies, will continue tomorrow |
| 22:57.01 | LaF0rge | zecke: don't worry, the auotmatic buildign is not that urgent. thanks for your support |
| 23:07.55 | saladino | Hi |
| 23:10.16 | LaF0rge | i know this is not a support channel, but anyway I would love to learn how I can make sure our uboot build ends up in fic-gta01 rather than generic arm4t ? |
| 23:11.35 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
| 23:12.01 | CoreDump|home | I only see u-boot stuff in deploy/images |
| 23:12.38 | CoreDump|home | with DISTRO=OpenMoko that is |
| 23:13.36 | woglinde | LaFOrge hm I think its architecture bounded so fic-gta01 has to be a part of that |
| 23:14.48 | LaF0rge | argh. sorry ;) I think we don't even yet build uboot ipk's for updating from linux mtd. sorry for that ;) |
| 23:14.58 | CoreDump|home | ah =) |
| 23:15.32 | CoreDump|home | LaF0rge: force PACKAGE_ARCH to fic-gta01 to make then deploy in the fic-gta01 directory |
| 23:15.42 | LaF0rge | thanks |
| 23:16.51 | CoreDump|home | nah, I got an email from you today. I gotta thank _you_ heh |
| 23:18.38 | CoreDump|home | PACKAGE_ARCH_${PN} = "${MACHINE}" |
| 23:21.53 | rwhitby | LaF0rge: are OM core devs freezing at that new OE revision, or using a floating OE revision now? |
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| 23:24.36 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: Getting a new Toy then ? :) |
| 23:24.45 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: you betcha |
| 23:24.48 | CoreDump|home | =D |
| 23:25.56 | CoreDump|home | well, not quite. But germany is right around the corner ;) |
| 23:27.07 | LaF0rge | rwhitby: I don't think we neccessarily need to freeze here. |
| 23:27.09 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: nevermind..I just couldn't resist making fun of the whole "you betcha" thing, especially after seeing a bunch of ads for "Fargo" a while back |
| 23:27.26 | LaF0rge | rwhitby: we're months away from anyting that I would ever call a stable release anyway |
| 23:27.43 | LaF0rge | rwhitby: but I leave that up to mickey once he's back |
| 23:28.02 | rwhitby | LaF0rge: what are *you* doing - freezing, or unfrozen? |
| 23:28.27 | rwhitby | (cause MokoMakefile always follows what the core devs are doing, to make sure bug reports are immediately relevant) |
| 23:28.49 | CoreDump|home | hvontres|poodle: I usually do not watch tv ;) |
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| 23:29.18 | hvontres|poodle | CoreDump|home: It would have been lost in translation anyways.. darn dubbing... |
| 23:29.49 | CoreDump|home | indeed, I can't stand dubbed movies / episodes |
| 23:31.03 | timtimred | ferrari dino |
| 23:31.06 | CoreDump|home | =D |
| 23:32.43 | timtimred | ...te only memorable thing in magnum :) |
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| 23:41.17 | saladino | hi |
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| 23:48.39 | woglinde | re zecke |
| 23:51.49 | hvontres|poodle | time to go home... |