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| 06:47.21 | Laibsch | Good morning! |
| 06:47.28 | Laibsch | Anybody awake yet? |
| 06:48.46 | Laibsch | I was wondering how to disable the QA checks to be fatal. There are just too many right now. If you want to get something compiled and it breaks on every package. It also invalidates the cache which slows things down even further. |
| 06:49.44 | NAbyss | Laibsch: Turn off insane.bb? |
| 06:50.36 | Laibsch | NAbyss: Glad you are awake. |
| 06:50.52 | Laibsch | Question is: Where is it turned on? |
| 06:51.45 | NAbyss | I think if you just remove org.xxxx/.../insane.bb, that should fix it |
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| 06:51.57 | NAbyss | Never tried it myself though |
| 06:53.12 | Laibsch | Hm, that sounds hackish but I'll try until somebody with a clean solution wakes. |
| 06:53.25 | Laibsch | NAbyss: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. |
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| 06:54.31 | NAbyss | np |
| 06:54.32 | psokolovsky | Laibsch, clean solution: remove "insane" from angstrom.inc |
| 06:54.49 | Laibsch | psokolovsky: Thanks. |
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| 06:57.10 | Laibsch | Well, turns out, I was insane enough to add this to my site.conf ;-) |
| 06:57.20 | Laibsch | Which is why I also saw this with openzaurus. |
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| 08:27.22 | CIA-3 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r63387ec4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ftpd-topfield: Updated to version 0.7.1 |
| 08:27.26 | CIA-3 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r867e41ce... 10/ (1 packages/ftpd-topfield/ftpd-topfield_0.7.1.bb): ftpd-topfield: usb patch no longer required |
| 08:27.30 | CIA-3 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ra3c39ebb... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom-2007.1.conf: Set PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-libc-headers to 2.6.18 for ixp4xx |
| 08:37.07 | Laibsch | What's up with oe.org? High load on the web server? |
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| 09:20.14 | do13_ | morning all |
| 09:31.17 | Laibsch | Good morning, Dirk! |
| 09:32.03 | Laibsch | I know "?=" is a weak assignment. What is "=?", is that semantically correct, after all? |
| 09:36.15 | RP | morning all |
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| 09:41.18 | mzb | hi koen|away et al |
| 09:41.59 | mzb | looking for info on http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream with bitbake + debian if anyone can assist |
| 09:42.55 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/IceCC |
| 09:43.16 | mzb | Sleep_Walker: heh, thx |
| 09:43.19 | Sleep_Walker | ;) |
| 09:43.38 | RP | Laibsch: I'm not sure =? is a valid operator... |
| 09:43.38 | mzb | (apart from the dns probs atm;) |
| 09:44.50 | Sleep_Walker | should I care about errors like this "ERROR: QA issue: libSDL.la failed sanity test (reference to workdir or installed)"? I see no doc about it :/ |
| 09:46.28 | mzb | Sleep_Walker: not sure but try touching conf/sanity.conf |
| 09:48.04 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: I don't think it's there, but ok, I'll try check |
| 09:48.11 | do13_ | hi Richard, Laibsch |
| 09:49.03 | mzb | Sleep_Walker: touch it the file ... AFAIK that forces bitbake to ignore sanity checks |
| 09:49.11 | RP | mzb: That won't help |
| 09:49.13 | mzb | s/it// |
| 09:49.23 | mzb | RP: ok, I'm not really sure |
| 09:49.43 | RP | mzb: Telling people to touch that file is a really bad idea anyway ;-) |
| 09:50.55 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: well, in fact, if it is warning, I can search for what it means instead of override :) |
| 09:50.55 | mzb | k, np |
| 09:50.56 | mzb | btw: gday RP ;) |
| 09:50.56 | RP | Sleep_Walker: Angstrom recently added some warning about problems with some files. These problems have been there a while just not mentioned. We've started mentioning them in the hope people will fix them |
| 09:50.56 | RP | Sleep_Walker: The checks are in insane.bbclass |
| 09:50.56 | mzb | Sleep_Walker: I'm not able to find the link you referenced |
| 09:51.34 | mzb | any suggestions? |
| 09:51.41 | Sleep_Walker | RP: sure, good step, but there is almost no doc, or I wasn't help to find |
| 09:51.45 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: err? |
| 09:52.14 | RP | Sleep_Walker: Read insane.bbclass. Its new so its not so well documented. There was a mail about it to the openembedded mailing list |
| 09:52.48 | Sleep_Walker | RP: I'm quite new to OE and I'm not in mailing list yet :) |
| 09:52.59 | Sleep_Walker | RP: thank you, I'll try to read through |
| 09:53.05 | mzb | might have it now ... slow to load ... might just be dns |
| 09:53.22 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: I think so... or it's down for a while |
| 09:53.33 | mzb | keep getting warning about relocation to hh.org |
| 09:53.38 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: I use icecc to, so I found it there |
| 09:53.47 | RP | Sleep_Walker: Those warnings can safely be ignored since the problems have been there a long time. We just want to clean up things we know are broken in the long run |
| 09:54.01 | mzb | right .. do you use debian? |
| 09:54.12 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: Gentoo |
| 09:55.01 | mzb | I've compiled icecc from both source and svn but still getting the same errors ... which leads me to the conclusion that I've got no idea what I'm doing (as usual;) |
| 09:55.06 | Sleep_Walker | RP: ok, so I'll read when I have more time :) |
| 09:55.23 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: what happened? |
| 09:55.29 | mzb | still trying to load wiki page |
| 09:56.12 | mzb | k, trying to compile icecc as a test case: $ export CC=icecc CXX=icecc; make -f Makefile.cvs && ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/share/icecream && make |
| 09:57.42 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: my installation of icecc was "emerge icecream" |
| 09:57.59 | Sleep_Walker | (after umnasking unstable packages :) |
| 09:58.21 | mzb | end result is a lot of errors |
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| 09:58.49 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: and simple "./configure && make && make install" doesn't work? |
| 09:59.15 | mzb | yes it does |
| 09:59.52 | mzb | I have it all installed, currently trying debian etch version (on sarge ... modified a couple of things) |
| 09:59.57 | mzb | but |
| 10:00.15 | mzb | still same errors |
| 10:00.18 | mzb | $ set | egrep "ICE|CC|CXX" |
| 10:00.18 | mzb | CC=icecc |
| 10:00.18 | mzb | CXX=icecc |
| 10:00.18 | mzb | ICECC_VERSION=/home/marcus/src/78904e0753c91367ff4a288fd9454899.tar.gz |
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| 10:00.44 | mzb | btw: this is a xen-based vm |
| 10:01.04 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: I have no idea without looking at it, sorry |
| 10:01.22 | mzb | what would you like to see to be able to advise? |
| 10:01.34 | mzb | got a pastebin of preference? |
| 10:02.19 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: In fact - I'm a bit hungry now (I'll have some breakfast) and I have to code my credit work, so I'm rather busy... |
| 10:03.01 | Sleep_Walker | mzb: sorry... |
| 10:03.11 | mzb | k, np |
| 10:03.16 | mzb | thx for help so far |
| 10:03.39 | mzb | (btw page has finally loaded .. so thx for link;) |
| 10:03.50 | obergix[work] | hi |
| 10:04.04 | obergix[work] | and special kiss to those I met at FOSDEM ;) |
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| 10:06.04 | mzb | bbl |
| 10:11.16 | Ifaistos | mzb : read the OE wiki about icecc. But before you try to use icecc with OE make sure that icecc works in a "standard" build enviroment i.e do a test build with a kernel or some non-OE application |
| 10:12.00 | Ifaistos | mzb : most of the problems come from the fact that icecc was not installed/working properly |
| 10:12.54 | Ifaistos | RP: Hi ! How was FOSDEM ? |
| 10:14.38 | obergix[work] | Ifaistos: GREAT ;) |
| 10:14.49 | obergix[work] | but the rooms were so small ;) |
| 10:14.59 | obergix[work] | in particular for openmoko presentation |
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| 10:26.19 | Ifaistos | obergix[work] : will they post the videos like last year ? |
| 10:27.38 | obergix[work] | Ifaistos: dunno... I'm not involved with the volunteer team of FOSDEM :( |
| 10:29.32 | mzb | Ifaistos: thx, yes I've been trying to build icecc itself as a test ... without bitbake ... I can build the source with plain gcc but not with icecc |
| 10:30.10 | mzb | I'm assuming it's a config problem, but I'm not sure how to find out what the problem is |
| 10:30.47 | Ifaistos | mzb : make sure that all machines have the same icecc version |
| 10:31.09 | mzb | I compiled from source on both |
| 10:31.27 | mzb | (initially) |
| 10:31.54 | Ifaistos | mzb : in the icecc.conf set ICECC_NETNAME="some-name" |
| 10:32.06 | Ifaistos | where some-name is the same on both machines |
| 10:32.25 | mzb | yes, did that, can watch the logs |
| 10:32.47 | mzb | (I have the 2nd daemon disabled atm for debug) |
| 10:33.29 | mzb | made a custom env too. btw this is using gcc 3.3.5 |
| 10:33.46 | mzb | (debian sarge) |
| 10:34.26 | Ifaistos | my compile cluster run debain etch |
| 10:35.27 | mzb | hmm ... maybe I should try a test vm using etch |
| 10:36.03 | mzb | (everything else uses etch ... just haven't been brave enough to update the bitbaker;) |
| 10:36.51 | mzb | fyi: http://www.marcusbrutus.soho.on.net |
| 10:38.05 | mzb | former network diag (ie. not current): http://www.marcusbrutus.soho.on.net/blog/wp-gallery2.php?g2_itemId=2520& |
| 10:40.23 | CM | Ifaistos: There's some OpenMoko video here: http://hentges.net/tmp/FOSDEM/ |
| 10:40.48 | CM | Same movie, two sizes. I couldn't get the sound working using vlc though |
| 10:44.17 | mzb | *sorry about the bandwidth ... it's busy doing other things;) |
| 10:45.15 | mzb | brb5 |
| 11:06.51 | mzb | Ifaistos: made a snapshot of sarge disk ... trying dist-upgrade to etch to see how I go |
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| 11:08.48 | mzb | oopd |
| 11:09.14 | mzb | s/oops |
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| 11:09.57 | saladino | hi |
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| 12:16.19 | mzb | ifaistos: will leave etch dist-upgrade running. Thx for the suggestion |
| 12:16.19 | mzb | gnite |
| 12:16.20 | mzb | (all) |
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| 12:17.14 | Sleep_Walker | is it bitbake bug? http://disk.jabbim.cz/sleep.walker@njs.netlab.cz/chyba |
| 12:17.42 | obergix[work] | Ifaistos: http://ftp.belnet.be/mirrors/FOSDEM/2007/ may be of interest to you... |
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| 12:33.19 | Ifaistos | obergix[work] : thanks |
| 12:34.25 | rwhitby | OpenMoko fosdem talk is now on video.google.com (search for "openmoko") |
| 12:34.52 | obergix[work] | rwhitby: even better then ;) |
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| 12:39.06 | obergix[work] | too bad the slides aren't readable :( |
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| 12:41.49 | B_Lizzard | Hello |
| 12:42.08 | B_Lizzard | I'm having a problem building gconf-dbus-2.10.0+svn20070226 |
| 12:42.34 | B_Lizzard | It says it needs glib-2.0, and that glib-2.0.pc cannot be found |
| 12:42.55 | B_Lizzard | But, the file exists in the standard PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
| 12:43.26 | B_Lizzard | It is in both my staging/sh3-linux and staging/i686-linux dirs |
| 12:43.56 | B_Lizzard | Should I just go shoot the guy that made autoconf, or can anyone help me? |
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| 13:01.42 | B_Lizzard | Oh crap, I have to rebuild all the dependancies |
| 13:03.17 | Sleep_Walker | B_Lizzard: what was the problem? |
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| 13:08.45 | B_Lizzard | Ah, I needed to rebuild glib-2.0 and all of it's deps |
| 13:09.00 | B_Lizzard | Bloody build system |
| 13:09.05 | B_Lizzard | :/ |
| 13:13.01 | mr_nice | Can someone of the devs please include the patch from bugreport 1873? |
| 13:16.01 | B_Lizzard | I've noticed that after my latest "mtn update", that bitbake puts packages in folders like "deploy/ipk/sh3" |
| 13:16.04 | B_Lizzard | Is that right? |
| 13:16.18 | B_Lizzard | Normally, it puts them in deploy/ipk |
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| 13:23.41 | koen|train | hi all |
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| 13:28.38 | mr_nice | koen|train: hi |
| 13:28.38 | mr_nice | koen|train. is fosdem over? |
| 13:28.38 | Ifaistos | B_Lizzard : yes its correct. there was a change in the way packages are stored in ipk dir to better handle multimachine builds |
| 13:28.38 | koen|train | mr_nice: yes, it ended at 18:00 yesterday |
| 13:28.45 | B_Lizzard | Ok, thanks a lot, Ifaistos |
| 13:28.52 | B_Lizzard | I hope that won't break things, though? |
| 13:29.07 | B_Lizzard | Like "opie-image" or whatever |
| 13:29.35 | Ifaistos | B_Lizzard : as far i have tested it works ok |
| 13:29.44 | B_Lizzard | Thanks a lot, dude |
| 13:29.51 | Ifaistos | B_Lizzard : x86, and ppc that is |
| 13:30.02 | koen|train | B_Lizzard: it has backward compat builtin |
| 13:30.29 | B_Lizzard | I think I'll need that, now that you say it, seeing that I'll have to build feeds for SH3 and ARM |
| 13:30.35 | B_Lizzard | Great idea, dudes |
| 13:33.06 | Ifaistos | koen|train : Got the soft-fp problem solved. now glibc 2.5 compiles ok. There are patches for gcc and glibc. should i post them on the bug tracker for review or push them to the rep ? |
| 13:33.52 | Ifaistos | koen|train : The patches are ppc specific with URI_append_powerpc |
| 13:34.04 | koen|train | Ifaistos: either option is fine by me |
| 13:34.55 | koen|train | still the same answer :) |
| 13:36.20 | Ifaistos | koen|train : i'll take the "safe" way. post them on the bug tracker for comments and incorporate them during next "bug hunting weekend" |
| 13:36.34 | koen|train | ok |
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| 13:43.56 | vlo | hi there: since my last OE tree update, using angstrom, when the kernel has freed its init memory, nothing happens. I've tried to add init=/some app argument but it's still the same. However, the kernel iooks fine, I can ping it. Any ideas ? |
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| 14:02.03 | pH5 | vlo: EABI/OABI issue? |
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| 14:02.04 | B_Lizzard | that was some bloody netsplit I caused there |
| 14:02.05 | NAiL | How did you "cause" it? |
| 14:02.06 | B_Lizzard | You want me to cause another one? |
| 14:02.06 | B_Lizzard | I thought so |
| 14:02.06 | B_Lizzard | D: |
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| 14:13.12 | Ifaistos | does anynone know if image-pivotboot is actually working ? |
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| 14:38.34 | pb_ | hi ljp |
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| 15:13.42 | gerwinin | Hello everybody :) |
| 15:14.11 | gerwinin | Was there any news from sunday fosdem ? |
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| 15:28.29 | fijam7 | hello |
| 15:28.39 | Jtag_me | hi |
| 15:30.18 | B_Lizzard | THE LATEST UPDATE BROKE MY DAMN TSLIB, THE DEVICE IS THERE, TSLIB_TSDEVICE IS THERE BUT GODDAMN TSLIB SAYS THAT "DEVICE IS NOT VALID". NOT VALID MY ASS. ALSO, REMOVING ABIWORD 2.4.6 SOMEHOW MAKES XCURSOR-TRANSPARENT-THEME TO NOT WORK. WHAT THE HELL IS ON WITH THAT. I JUST CAME HERE TO TELL YOU ALL THIS BECAUSE I'M VERY MAD AAAAAAAAAAA I NEED TO PUNCH SOMETHING |
| 15:30.58 | fijam7 | meet B_Lizzard, one of jlime.com developers |
| 15:30.58 | Jtag_me | yay !! |
| 15:31.12 | B_Lizzard | There, I feel better |
| 15:31.24 | pH5 | B_Lizzard: please just don't split the net again ;) |
| 15:31.25 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 15:31.26 | Jtag_me | I bett you feel better now B_Lizzard |
| 15:31.54 | B_Lizzard | I promise I will not delete the internet like last time |
| 15:32.39 | CIA-3 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r47a9bf96... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): zd1211: Upstream upgrade to -r85. Fixes problem in recent kernels |
| 15:33.38 | Jtag_me | so get Fixing B_Lizzard or dump OE and go Debian LOL |
| 15:34.27 | B_Lizzard | Don't even get me started, I've been trying to get Abiword 1.0.7 to work for a month now, so you don't know what I've been through |
| 15:34.29 | Jtag_me | http://www.linux-sh.org/shwiki/FrontPage ;) |
| 15:34.30 | fijam7 | don't tempt him |
| 15:35.06 | B_Lizzard | I've been through all 20 word-processors, and only the one that is extremely slow works |
| 15:35.12 | B_Lizzard | Abiword 2.4.6 |
| 15:35.24 | B_Lizzard | I could be ranting on for days :) |
| 15:36.17 | Jtag_me | someone throw him a towel |
| 15:38.12 | B_Lizzard | And what the hell is that about removing abiword 2.4.6 stops xcursor-transparent-theme from being used |
| 15:38.31 | B_Lizzard | Are computers crazy, or what? |
| 15:38.36 | B_Lizzard | Also, motif |
| 15:38.58 | B_Lizzard | Did they distribute free crack with motif, or what? |
| 15:39.13 | Jtag_me | i am just glad i am a user only |
| 15:39.55 | Jtag_me | Keep the crack and throw in the towel LOL |
| 15:41.57 | B_Lizzard | I'll just shut up now |
| 15:42.04 | Jtag_me | :) |
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| 16:09.03 | Jin^eLD | hey koen, back already? |
| 16:09.33 | gerwinin | Koen: Had a good trip ? |
| 16:09.52 | koen | Jin^eLD: yes, back already |
| 16:09.59 | koen | gerwinin: yes, and you? |
| 16:10.08 | gerwinin | Koen: Yes |
| 16:10.26 | gerwinin | Koen: Can I get a login for the wiki so I can edit it ? |
| 16:10.53 | koen | sure |
| 16:11.17 | koen | (you don't actually need a login, but I can give you one) |
| 16:12.39 | koen | gerwinin: account details are in you mailbox |
| 16:14.39 | gerwinin | Koen: thanks ! |
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| 16:28.02 | koen | http://blog.gustavobarbieri.com.br/2007/02/26/bossa-conference-sdk-matters/ |
| 16:30.12 | koen | hrw|gone: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/403544298/ |
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| 16:33.14 | gerwinin | Koen: I will contact knut tomorrow about the conferences and stuff |
| 16:33.26 | gerwinin | Koen: I will edit conference wiki as well |
| 16:33.43 | gerwinin | Koen: I will write a short piece about fosdem as well |
| 16:34.13 | koen | cool |
| 16:34.18 | koen | many thanks |
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| 17:26.59 | kergoth | morning |
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| 17:27.24 | koen | hey kergoth |
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| 17:27.54 | XorA | morning |
| 17:28.07 | koen | hey XorA ! |
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| 17:44.42 | pb_ | g'day kergoth |
| 17:52.24 | nm_ | hi Jin^eLD |
| 17:52.34 | nm_ | Jin^eLD: are you there ? |
| 17:53.10 | Jin^eLD | hey nm_ |
| 17:54.40 | nm_ | Jin^eLD: my OE still can not recompile a specify package, if i use -c rebuild it will clean, re-fetching ... |
| 17:55.05 | Jin^eLD | well, that's exactly what rebuild does |
| 17:55.22 | Jin^eLD | I think the hint we got last time was to use -c configure and -c compile |
| 17:55.22 | nm_ | Jin^eLD: how do you recompile w/ bitbake after modified source in tmp// |
| 17:55.34 | nm_ | Jin^eLD: itnot works |
| 17:55.38 | Jin^eLD | I did not try it yet |
| 17:55.44 | Jin^eLD | I will probably try that today or tomorrow |
| 17:57.21 | hrw | koen: thx |
| 17:57.22 | hrw | re |
| 17:57.32 | Jin^eLD | wb |
| 17:57.33 | mr_nice|sfa3 | hrw: hi |
| 17:57.44 | mr_nice|sfa3 | hrw: do you have some time for me? |
| 17:57.53 | hrw | I am still alive and just wanted to say that it was really nice to be on FOSDEM. |
| 17:57.57 | hrw | mr_nice|sfa3: no |
| 17:58.01 | nm_ | Jin^eLD: pls see my log http://vnoss.net/p/335 |
| 17:58.05 | koen | hrw: wb |
| 17:58.08 | hrw | mr_nice|sfa3: I am going out in a minute |
| 17:58.24 | mr_nice|sfa3 | hrw. maybee tomorrow? |
| 17:58.27 | nm_ | hi NAbyss, |
| 17:58.36 | nm_ | NAbyss: are you there ? |
| 17:59.22 | hrw | mr_nice|sfa3: ok |
| 17:59.24 | Jin^eLD | nm_: btw, why are you using bitbake from the unstable branch? |
| 17:59.33 | mr_nice|sfa3 | hrw: :) thx |
| 18:00.05 | cbrake | nm_: to recompile modified source in tmp, you can run scripts in temp: tmp/work/..../package/temp/run.do_compile |
| 18:00.13 | hrw | ~lart flickr for lack of prev/next buttons |
| 18:00.27 | nm_ | Jin^eLD: only a testing ... :-) |
| 18:00.42 | nm_ | cbrake: oh, okie |
| 18:00.44 | Jin^eLD | cbrake: we got a hint to use -c compile, I did not know those scripts could actually be run :) thx for the hint |
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| 18:01.18 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: yeah, its one of the best kept secrets to OE :-) |
| 18:01.23 | Jin^eLD | :))) |
| 18:01.29 | nm_ | LoLz |
| 18:01.45 | Skyhusker | hi |
| 18:01.53 | Jin^eLD | I somehow always thought that was all realated to log outputs |
| 18:02.18 | Jin^eLD | cbrake: but ok, lets assume - I point workdir to an my local working copy |
| 18:02.23 | Jin^eLD | so I want to skip the fetch stage |
| 18:02.34 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: some other really cool things is you can do svn ops right from source in work/.../package -- this is handy for development. |
| 18:02.35 | Jin^eLD | could I use -c compile? |
| 18:02.55 | Jin^eLD | well thats exactly what I am trying to figure out - developing stuff with the help of OE |
| 18:02.58 | nm_ | cbrake: in my tmp/.../temp i dont' have any run.do* file , how do i re-generate these files ? |
| 18:03.26 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: I never point workdir to a non standard place. I just set the OE recipe to check source our of my local svn repo. |
| 18:03.41 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: and then do all my dev right in the tmp directory. |
| 18:03.50 | nm_ | Jin^eLD: i think so, but i never get it work before ... |
| 18:04.07 | cbrake | nm_: bitbake <package> once, and everything should be there. |
| 18:04.32 | Jin^eLD | wow! cbrake!! |
| 18:04.34 | Jin^eLD | I did not know that |
| 18:04.44 | Jin^eLD | this really rocks! ha |
| 18:05.14 | Jin^eLD | thanks for the hint |
| 18:05.20 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: another really useful thing is quilt is already set up when building packages in the tmp/ directory. So if you need to refresh a patch or add a new on, just go to the build dir in tmp and start doing quilt ops. When you are done, copy the patches to your bitbake recipe. |
| 18:05.43 | Jin^eLD | I am not so familiar with quilt yet |
| 18:05.48 | Jin^eLD | have to take a closer look |
| 18:06.15 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: its a good thing to know -- especially because any changes to standard packages in OE need to be managed as patch files. |
| 18:06.25 | Jin^eLD | cbrake: assuming oyu work in your workdir, how do you build the stuff to test your changes? |
| 18:06.33 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: quilt makes creating/managing patch files a lot less paintful. |
| 18:06.46 | Jin^eLD | ok I see, I'll take a lok |
| 18:07.03 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: I cd tmp/work/.../package/build_dir/ |
| 18:07.06 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: do development |
| 18:07.16 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: ../temp/run.do_compile... to build |
| 18:07.21 | Jin^eLD | how do you build during development process? aha.. |
| 18:07.31 | Jin^eLD | so you just run the compile script each time |
| 18:07.33 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: yup |
| 18:07.34 | Jin^eLD | without incoking bitbake directly |
| 18:07.36 | Jin^eLD | ok I see |
| 18:07.37 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: right |
| 18:07.46 | Jin^eLD | I'll try that, thats really cool |
| 18:07.46 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: or you can modify the build script if needed. |
| 18:07.53 | hrw | cu |
| 18:08.03 | nm_ | cbrake: nice hint :-D |
| 18:08.04 | Jin^eLD | I was asking arount, trying to figure out the best way to develop using OE |
| 18:08.11 | Jin^eLD | s/arount/around/g |
| 18:08.15 | cbrake | Jin^eLD: if you add files, you can run "autoreconf -i" and then ../temp/run.do_configure.... |
| 18:08.24 | Jin^eLD | thats really cool |
| 18:08.32 | Jin^eLD | exactly what I was looking for :> |
| 18:10.18 | goxboxlive | Anyone know what this is? http://pastebin.ca/373274 ? I am trying to build gpephone-image but it wouldnt build. Has anyone managed to build a image yet? (angstrom, .org.oe.dev, htcuniversal) . |
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| 18:12.36 | pht_ | hi |
| 18:13.02 | Skyhusker | is monotone.oe.org down? i can't reach it |
| 18:13.14 | koen | so use a mirror |
| 18:14.32 | Skyhusker | i known, but maybe the people behind it aren't aware of the problem, so i ask in the channel in the first place :) |
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| 18:17.36 | pht_ | anyone willing to help me get oe set up? |
| 18:17.41 | pht_ | i got so far: http://rafb.net/p/D7O7gB60.html |
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| 18:19.02 | pht_ | i have little clue where to search for an error.. |
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| 18:46.09 | XorA | pH5: what version of bitbake? |
| 18:46.16 | XorA | pht_: what version of bitbake |
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| 18:48.32 | zecke | re |
| 18:49.19 | XorA | yo zecke |
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| 18:49.54 | zecke | XorA: hey |
| 18:50.02 | zecke | I'm so happy to be home... |
| 18:51.54 | Kristoffer | " checking for BLUEZ... Package bluez was not found in the pkg-config search path." |
| 18:52.04 | koen | Kristoffer: read the mailinglist |
| 18:52.11 | Kristoffer | :) |
| 18:55.29 | alphaone | Hi |
| 18:55.39 | zecke | koen: http://www-id.imag.fr/~nussbaum/fosdem07-auttest.pdf slide 16 |
| 18:55.45 | alphaone | Where can I find a description of the device_table files? |
| 18:56.47 | koen | zecke: cute |
| 18:59.24 | pht_ | XorA: BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.6.6, bitbake version 1.6.6 |
| 19:00.04 | XorA | pht_: no idea then sorry |
| 19:00.31 | koen | zecke, XorA: did someone already remove the broken package-rm-dir code? |
| 19:00.52 | zecke | koen: I don't know |
| 19:00.58 | alphaone | It's name type access-rights something something major minor and then some iteration rules, right? |
| 19:01.08 | pht_ | XorA: no idea where to look? |
| 19:01.50 | alphaone | Ah, uid and gid are the 4th and 5th field, I presume |
| 19:01.54 | koen | title(sprintf(’sin(2*pi*%d*x)’, fstep)); |
| 19:02.02 | koen | drat, wrong window |
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| 19:06.07 | florian_ | hi all |
| 19:06.25 | Skyhusker | hi florian_ |
| 19:06.51 | zecke | koen: http://www.qtopia.net/downloads/greenphone/rootfs/linux-2.4.19-rmk7-pxa2-greenphone.tar.bz2 |
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| 19:07.06 | Chocky | evening |
| 19:07.18 | koen | zecke: I talked to long about the kernel this morning |
| 19:07.39 | koen | zecke: MDoC flash sucks |
| 19:08.02 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: 2.4 /me shudder :) |
| 19:08.06 | Chocky | ./quit |
| 19:08.07 | florian | hey Skyhusker |
| 19:08.26 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: no peoples-republic-linux-1.0 |
| 19:08.39 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: so you guys returned safely? |
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| 19:08.50 | florian | hi Chocky |
| 19:08.59 | Chocky | here I am again, working on OE |
| 19:09.03 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: yes, much rain, but faster as expected anyway. |
| 19:09.24 | alphaone | zecke: Yeah |
| 19:09.30 | alphaone | I slept like a baby |
| 19:09.37 | Chocky | it's changed a bunch since 2004 |
| 19:10.09 | alphaone | zecke: Do you know what the last three entries in files/device_table mean? |
| 19:10.32 | alphaone | Something along the way startminor, increment, iterations? |
| 19:10.50 | zecke | alphaone: not without looking at that file |
| 19:12.39 | alphaone | zecke: Okay |
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| 19:13.20 | gerwinin | Zecke: Great to see everybody ! |
| 19:13.37 | zecke | yeah meeting each other was fun |
| 19:13.51 | zecke | finally I can put a face to your name :) |
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| 19:14.00 | gerwinin | Zecke: Yes |
| 19:14.43 | gerwinin | Zecke:it was awesome met so many cool people ! It also makes me feel sad because there are not so many cool oss people in my area |
| 19:14.52 | zecke | koen: so you had a look at the code? |
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| 19:15.02 | koen | zecke: code? |
| 19:15.09 | koen | zecke: MDoC doesn't have code.... |
| 19:15.26 | zecke | gerwinin: hehe, well Eindhoven is not bad. But you could move to Braunschweig next to the EZX guys |
| 19:15.48 | zecke | koen: peoples-republic-linux 1.0 (2.4.18-rmkX-pxaY-greenphone) |
| 19:17.02 | koen | gerwinin: check the comment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/400714254/ :) |
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| 19:20.48 | koen | zecke: the next commit is for the greenphone :) |
| 19:21.04 | zecke | koen: hmm, poser |
| 19:21.11 | zecke | koen: what did you do? added the kernel? |
| 19:22.02 | CIA-3 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7ecf0e32... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1-legacy.conf): angstrom legacy: add a skeleton for building angstrom for devices that require legacy software (e.g. kernel 2.4) |
| 19:22.12 | zecke | hehe |
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| 19:22.23 | stefan_schmidt | lol |
| 19:22.24 | zecke | koen: so can I build legacy uclibc? |
| 19:22.27 | alphaone | :-) |
| 19:22.36 | likewise | hello fooks |
| 19:22.44 | koen | hey likewise |
| 19:22.52 | likewise | how was sunday for you guys? |
| 19:23.18 | koen | zecke: pb_ added a safe path join thing, do you want to fix glibc? |
| 19:23.58 | zecke | koen: XorA already recognized the patch, basicly we should replace all os.path.join with that function |
| 19:25.28 | koen | ah, didn't know that |
| 19:26.22 | zecke | koen: we think that most cases of os.path.join want to do: var + separator + othervar |
| 19:28.32 | koen | gerwinin: could you update http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/ProjectDevices where appropriate? |
| 19:30.38 | summatusmentis | hrw|gone added something to the #openzaurus topic about there not being another release if there aren't more devs. I'm interested in becoming a dev, or at least helping out, but I'm not very good. Where do I start? |
| 19:30.58 | summatusmentis | I'm downloading OE.mtn.bz2 right now |
| 19:34.15 | Marex-debian | any way to make supertux run on 320x480 ? |
| 19:34.18 | pht_ | XorA: seems i was missing something in local.conf. i used directly local.conf.openzaurus-3.5.4.2 instead of local.conf.sample; the file names are a little confusing :/ |
| 19:34.44 | stefan_schmidt | Marex-debian: I used it on 320x240 |
| 19:34.56 | Marex-debian | in opie? |
| 19:35.40 | stefan_schmidt | Marex-debian: Motorola EZX (QT Embedded) |
| 19:35.44 | koen | ooooh |
| 19:35.49 | koen | new RNK quote |
| 19:35.53 | koen | RMK* |
| 19:35.54 | Marex-debian | koen, wassup? |
| 19:35.56 | koen | "Rather than giving us a vague clue, why not tell us what you're |
| 19:35.56 | koen | actually trying to achieve. This is _open_ source with _free_ |
| 19:35.56 | koen | support. It's your responsibility to make it easy for us if |
| 19:35.57 | koen | you want to make use of that support." |
| 19:36.01 | Marex-debian | ooooooooooooooohhh 8) |
| 19:36.24 | Marex-debian | wtf? :o |
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| 19:41.29 | zecke | koen: why do you say DiskOnChip is not supported? |
| 19:42.57 | koen | zecke: Lorn said the chip used in the gp isn't supported |
| 19:43.47 | zecke | "Yuhua Board" == Greenphone |
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| 19:52.43 | Kristoffer | :D nice quote |
| 19:54.16 | Jin^eLD | is this gdb message familiar to anyone? warning: Unable to find dynamic linker breakpoint function. |
| 19:54.23 | Jin^eLD | am I missing some additional package or something? |
| 19:54.32 | Jin^eLD | trying to debug my app on mipsel |
| 19:54.33 | zecke | XorA: do you know a wm9713? |
| 19:54.53 | zecke | #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_OMEGA |
| 19:54.53 | zecke | #include <linux/mtd/mtd.h> |
| 19:54.53 | woglinde | hi zecke |
| 19:55.03 | zecke | from drivers/sound/ac97_codec_wm9713.c |
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| 20:00.19 | gerwinin | Koen: Project devices edited |
| 20:00.32 | woglinde | hi gwerwinin |
| 20:00.35 | gerwinin | Koen: somebody took the businesscards |
| 20:00.41 | gerwinin | Hey woglinde |
| 20:03.33 | zecke | void i2c_pcf5060x_workaround() hmm another nice function name |
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| 20:04.14 | woglinde | zecke *g* |
| 20:04.46 | zecke | at least there is not a i2c_pcf5060x_workaround2() |
| 20:05.01 | pht_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.01 | pht_ | Connecting to ep09.pld-linux.org[217.73.31.20]:80... failed: Connection timed out. |
| 20:05.03 | pht_ | :< |
| 20:11.02 | gerwinin | Koen : How can I edit the news pages and stuff ? |
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| 20:13.21 | koen | gerwinin: click on a title and press 'edit' or click 'create content' in the menu on your left |
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| 20:13.30 | sirfred | Hello |
| 20:14.35 | koen | hey sirfred ! |
| 20:14.53 | woglinde | hi sirfred |
| 20:14.59 | koen | gerwinin: iirc it was alban pierce (sp?) that donated the CF stuff |
| 20:15.22 | sirfred | koen, woglinde: Hi. At FOSDEM ? |
| 20:15.36 | woglinde | sirfred I wasnt there |
| 20:15.44 | gerwinin | Koen: I don't know , I knew the guy was speaking dutch |
| 20:16.10 | koen | ah, that's a different guy |
| 20:16.40 | summatusmentis | I was wondering if anyone knew about the current status of the OZ 2.6 SD driver for the 5500 |
| 20:16.43 | sirfred | RP: Hi. Making extmem disabling configurable is being a harder task than I expected. :-( |
| 20:16.51 | gerwinin | Koen: another guy offered us to donate palm stuff |
| 20:17.13 | koen | the treos? |
| 20:17.16 | gerwinin | Koen: I took his business card but left all cards on the booth so somebody took the cards |
| 20:17.20 | gerwinin | koen: yes |
| 20:19.35 | likewise | I cannot remember seeing any cards when I left the booth on saturday. |
| 20:20.16 | likewise | HopsNBarley: Hi there. |
| 20:20.28 | gerwinin | Likewise: Than I think my friend Jeroen has them |
| 20:20.57 | likewise | The one with the new girlfriend? |
| 20:20.59 | likewise | :-) |
| 20:21.32 | gerwinin | Likewise: I went out for diner with them with some vlc people pfff getting ill from it :) |
| 20:21.44 | summatusmentis | which openzaurus branch should i be downloading if I want to help hrw|gone with the release? |
| 20:22.23 | likewise | gerwinin: from VLC people or girlfriends? |
| 20:22.49 | gerwinin | Likewise: from Jeroen and his Girlfriend :) the vlc people where pretty cool |
| 20:23.20 | likewise | Derk-Jan was there as well? |
| 20:23.30 | gerwinin | Likewise: yes |
| 20:23.51 | likewise | koen: because they can't spell rum? :-) |
| 20:24.55 | HopsNBarley | hi likewise! |
| 20:25.02 | pht_ | NOTE: package qemu-native-0.8.2: started |
| 20:25.15 | pht_ | how do i prevent this from building? |
| 20:25.20 | pht_ | (got gcc4) |
| 20:25.46 | koen | why do you want to prevent it from building? |
| 20:25.57 | koen | it obviously is needed, otherwise OE wouldn't build it |
| 20:26.33 | pht_ | koen: because i got gcc4 |
| 20:27.05 | koen | pht_: you're spouting nonsense, stop that before continuing to speak |
| 20:27.17 | pht_ | one moment |
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| 20:30.35 | likewise | rwhitby: Hi Rod |
| 20:30.42 | pht_ | koen: |
| 20:30.57 | pht_ | | QEMU is known to have problems when compiled with gcc 4.x |
| 20:30.57 | pht_ | | It is recommended that you use gcc 3.x to build QEMU |
| 20:31.13 | koen | pht_: 'apt-get install gcc-3.4' |
| 20:31.32 | woglinde | Koen *g* |
| 20:31.33 | pht_ | koen: also, i am a casual qemu user and i am certain that qemu built with my gcc does _not_ run |
| 20:31.36 | RP | sirfred: hi, what is the problem? |
| 20:31.48 | rwhitby | hi likewise |
| 20:31.57 | sirfred | RP: If I understand correctly, the framebuffer must be mapped always in the same place. |
| 20:32.16 | koen | pht_: I just told you to install a gcc that isn't present on your system |
| 20:32.19 | sirfred | RP: And that place is defined as W100_FB_BASE |
| 20:32.28 | pht_ | koen: well, first off, i don't use debian or any other packaging system; but that doesn't matter. i just don't want to have a separate gcc version just for qemu |
| 20:32.28 | koen | pht_: please actually read the advice people give you |
| 20:32.51 | sirfred | RP: That is the place where external memory uses to be mapped. When extmem_active is 0, external memory is switched off and internal memory is mapped to that place. |
| 20:32.52 | woglinde | pht than no oe for you |
| 20:33.02 | pht_ | koen: i do read everything you type me; i just finish my sentences as well |
| 20:33.25 | pht_ | well just tell me, why does oe need qemu |
| 20:33.36 | koen | to build glibc |
| 20:33.39 | sirfred | RP: But, when both memory are mapped, If I want the framebuffer to be placed in a fixed place, and I want it to be in the internal mem. |
| 20:33.43 | pht_ | why does it need qemu to build stuff (i actually build _kernel_) |
| 20:34.05 | pht_ | koen: so, glibc is not built by the cross compiler? |
| 20:34.12 | sirfred | RP: Well, how can I do it, I was trying swapping the mapping of internal and external memory, and seems to work. |
| 20:34.49 | RP | sirfred: When we use external memory, I think we still map the internal memory somewhere, don't we? |
| 20:35.02 | sirfred | RP: Yes. |
| 20:35.11 | sirfred | RP: But in that way, I don't know why, the screen is not stable. |
| 20:35.43 | RP | sirfred: Ah, you're mapping it accross the internal/external memory boundary? |
| 20:35.45 | gerwinin | RP: it seems that myth-front for epia builds okay now |
| 20:36.17 | RP | gerwinin: That sounds good although I'm not sure I can remember the problem? :-/ |
| 20:36.25 | sirfred | RP: The only thing I did was to avoid external memory to switch off. |
| 20:36.50 | RP | sirfred: Did you move the external memory to map after the internal memory? |
| 20:36.56 | gerwinin | RP: Until now I only found one and that is that snes doesn't built due to loose of precission |
| 20:37.13 | sirfred | RP: The external memory is mapped after the internal memory alwais, isn't it? |
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| 20:37.22 | RP | sirfred: No |
| 20:37.22 | gerwinin | RP: do the openchrome drivers work ? |
| 20:37.28 | likewise | gremlin[it]: hi |
| 20:37.29 | gerwinin | gremlin: hi ! |
| 20:37.40 | sirfred | RP: Isn't internal mapped at 0x100000 and external al 0x800000 ? |
| 20:37.48 | gremlin[it] | hi likewise, gerwinin !!! |
| 20:37.50 | sirfred | RP: But when external is off, internal is mapped to 0x800000 |
| 20:38.09 | RP | gerwinin: I'm afraid I'm not following this conversation... |
| 20:38.09 | sirfred | Just to avoid changing the W100_FB_BASE. |
| 20:38.23 | RP | sirfred: yes |
| 20:39.06 | pht_ | koen: so qemu is actually used as a part of the build system? not just for emulating the "result"? |
| 20:39.12 | sirfred | RP: But in 320x240 mode, we want the framebuffer to be placed in the internal memory. |
| 20:39.14 | sirfred | RP: And the external memory also mapped. |
| 20:39.38 | RP | sirfred: Right, so external has to be mapped somehwere other than 0x800000 |
| 20:39.51 | sirfred | RP: I'm mapping it at 0x100000 to test. |
| 20:39.59 | RP | pht_: Its used for generating the locale information |
| 20:40.09 | koen | RP: would pxafb need a similar trick for sram? |
| 20:40.18 | gerwinin | RP: okay |
| 20:40.28 | RP | koen: Kind of, yes |
| 20:40.37 | sirfred | RP: My problem now will be that Ximageon is expecting external memory to be mapped at EXTMEM_LOCATION |
| 20:40.41 | RP | koen: In that case the pxa doesn't have its own memory bus |
| 20:40.51 | pht_ | RP: huh. locale for what? i just did 'bitbake virtual/kernel' |
| 20:40.58 | sirfred | RP: As it gives different priority to internal and external mem. |
| 20:41.30 | RP | sirfred: Perhaps Ximageon should look where the external memory is mapped then? ;-) |
| 20:42.23 | sirfred | RP: It does that, reading the EXTMEM_LOCATION register. But in this scenario, we are using that register to map the internal memory. |
| 20:43.20 | RP | sirfred: Surely the EXTMEM_LOCATION register sets where the external memory is located? |
| 20:43.43 | sirfred | RP: I'm sure of very few things. |
| 20:44.02 | RP | sirfred: I get the feeling we're talking cross purposes :/ |
| 20:44.15 | RP | sirfred: Have you a patch I can look at>? |
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| 20:44.38 | sirfred | RP: Let me thing it again more calmly. |
| 20:46.46 | koen | hey gremlin[it] |
| 20:47.03 | gremlin[it] | hi koen :) |
| 20:47.23 | gremlin[it] | whas loooooong time since lasta time !!! |
| 20:48.43 | koen | :) |
| 20:50.04 | sirfred | RP: I'm sending it to you. Thanks for your time. :) |
| 20:50.54 | summatusmentis | does anyone know the status of the 2.6 SD driver for the 5500 in OZ? |
| 20:51.10 | RP | sirfred: I just had a look at the code and I think all you need is something like http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/w100_extmem_secondary.patch |
| 20:51.22 | RP | sirfred: I've not looked at your mail yet though ;-) |
| 20:51.36 | sirfred | RP: I'm still writing it. :) |
| 20:51.42 | sirfred | RP: But, ... that patch... |
| 20:52.18 | RP | sirfred: Sorry, swap the values in the if statement ;-) |
| 20:54.52 | sirfred | RP: So, you're swapping the mapping of internal and external memory. |
| 20:54.57 | sirfred | RP: true? |
| 20:55.05 | RP | sirfred: yes |
| 20:55.33 | sirfred | RP: That way, userland can not tell which memory is internal and fast and with one is external (slower) |
| 20:55.57 | sirfred | RP: Perhaps there's a different way to know where is external and internal memory mapped. |
| 20:56.08 | sirfred | RP: I've sent you my patch. |
| 20:57.06 | sirfred | RP: But I see what size is the requested mode to decide how to map. |
| 20:58.16 | sirfred | RP: So, for 320x240 modes, and with extmem_never_off==1, I swap the mapping, but for 640x480 modes I have to map the framebuffer to the external memory |
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| 21:00.14 | RP | sirfred: Sure you can tell where its mapped, just read MC_EXT_MEM_LOCATION and MC_FB_LOCATION |
| 21:02.15 | sirfred | RP: But isn't MC_FB_LOCATION internal memory for 320x240 modes and external memory for 640x480 modes? |
| 21:03.48 | sirfred | RP: Excuse me, I'm saying nonsenses. |
| 21:04.51 | sirfred | RP: You're right. MC_FB_LOCATION is always the internal memory and MC_EXT_MEM_LOCATION is the external memory. I was thinking it in some strange reverse mode. |
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| 21:05.50 | pht_ | it just seems enough to do 'bitbake -b org.openembedded.oz354x/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.17.bb |
| 21:06.04 | pht_ | no locale, no qemu, no hassle |
| 21:06.38 | pht_ | except it croaks because of a wrong patch. |
| 21:06.43 | sirfred | RP: I have to leave now. Thank for your help. Any comment about the patch is welcome. |
| 21:08.19 | summatusmentis | does anyone know the status of the 2.6 SD driver for the 5500 in OZ? |
| 21:17.03 | Laibsch | summatusmentis: No change from what is in the OZ FAQ |
| 21:17.22 | Laibsch | summatusmentis: Have you pledged your support for the bounty? |
| 21:19.43 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: I haven't looked at the OZ FAQ, and I'm a poor HS student, lacking monetary means |
| 21:19.49 | summatusmentis | :-/, I would if i could |
| 21:20.44 | Laibsch | Come on, you cannot spare even 5€? |
| 21:20.59 | Laibsch | Or just 1€ to show you want this but lack further means? |
| 21:21.16 | Laibsch | I think anyone interested in this can and should pledge. |
| 21:23.15 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: ok, that's fair |
| 21:23.42 | summatusmentis | I'd also like to support the project in other ways, testing and so forth |
| 21:25.19 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: where is this page? |
| 21:25.36 | gerwinin | Laibsch: should we make a bounty page ? |
| 21:27.09 | Laibsch | summasmentis: I believe http://www.openembedded.org/FAQ |
| 21:27.22 | Laibsch | gerwinin: On one hand this seems like a good idea. |
| 21:27.34 | Laibsch | I believe we should have more bounties in OE |
| 21:28.22 | Laibsch | On the other hand, I never thought that a wiki page was the proper way to do this. |
| 21:28.22 | Laibsch | I talked to Michael Voigt at FOSDEM about a proper bounty support system. |
| 21:28.31 | Laibsch | I hope that launchpad will eventually provide this. |
| 21:29.02 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: I don't see anything at the OE FAQ, I was looking at the openzaurus wiki faq, but that didn't have it either |
| 21:29.26 | Laibsch | I'm off |
| 21:29.29 | RP | Laibsch: It needs to be more than a wiki page. Maybe if someone came forward to look after it and that page was locked for their updates only or something? |
| 21:29.39 | Laibsch | See you all after I return. |
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| 21:30.52 | Laibsch | RP: I believe I once posted an URL from somebody else's analysis about what a bounty system should look like. I agreed with that assessment and will forward this info to Michael. |
| 21:31.11 | RP | Laibsch: ok, sounds good |
| 21:31.16 | RP | Sorry, my irc client segfaulted there :/ |
| 21:31.48 | summatusmentis | is there anything OE/OZ needs that someone without much programming experience could provide? |
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| 21:32.18 | oxo | good day |
| 21:32.28 | gerwinin | hi oxo |
| 21:32.45 | Laibsch | summatusmentis: Go through the bug reports and see if you can reproduce them. |
| 21:33.06 | Laibsch | summatusmentis: Look at ubuntu bug triage info on how to do this effectively. |
| 21:33.11 | gerwinin | Oxo what kind of distribution ? |
| 21:33.28 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: ok, I can probably do that |
| 21:33.28 | oxo | for the Javastation Krups |
| 21:33.29 | zecke | koen: looks like the greenphone kernel is not complete |
| 21:33.49 | oxo | there is a 8M ROM-thingy in it, and it's practically a hell to build manually an image |
| 21:34.09 | oxo | but I keep running into troubles building glibc |
| 21:34.23 | koen | oxo!!!!!!! |
| 21:34.26 | RP | zecke: Which bits are missing? |
| 21:34.31 | oxo | koenman! |
| 21:34.32 | Laibsch | summatusmentis: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/FAQ#Which_SD_Cards_work_with_OpenZaurus |
| 21:34.50 | koen | oxo: I can trade local support against a drink :) |
| 21:34.59 | oxo | ah very good |
| 21:35.31 | zecke | RP: they want to compile s1d19120.c, which is not in the source tree |
| 21:35.41 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: ok, thanks |
| 21:35.54 | summatusmentis | Laibsch: don't let me be the reason you're satying |
| 21:35.57 | summatusmentis | staying* |
| 21:36.03 | RP | zecke: fun :/ |
| 21:36.18 | zecke | someone shut my machine off, so I can not verify it |
| 21:36.21 | woglinde | zecke lol |
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| 21:36.52 | zecke | RP: they have one pxafb.c for each depth 8,16,24 :) |
| 21:37.05 | zecke | RP: self made i2c code |
| 21:37.18 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: OMG |
| 21:37.40 | zecke | I still have not found any trace of the block device stuff |
| 21:37.53 | zecke | they greenphone defconfig is not including MTD |
| 21:38.01 | Ifaistos | what's the install parameter to recursivly copy dirs ? i.e install -m 0755 arch/ppc/* ${STAGING_KERNEL_DIR}/arch/ppc/ copies only the files not dirs |
| 21:38.35 | woglinde | ifaistos hm man install? |
| 21:38.44 | zecke | RP: what is interesting they have something they call IMM and this includes an API to expose the static ram to userspace |
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| 21:41.17 | zecke | oh someone sumarized bits at http://greenphone-wiki.org/index.php/Technical_information |
| 21:42.21 | koen | wolfson codec |
| 21:42.49 | zecke | yes :) |
| 21:43.03 | zecke | koen: see above, they forked ac97.c and hacked on it |
| 21:43.21 | RP | At least a 2.6 sounds driver will be easy... |
| 21:43.22 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:43.28 | RP | 'night koen |
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| 21:45.34 | Ifaistos | woglinde : i tried -D but it does not work |
| 21:45.35 | RP | Has anyone asked TT if they plan to update to 2.6 on it? |
| 21:46.22 | zecke | RP: no I will, looks like they have 16 binary only modules |
| 21:46.40 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: wtf, which chips? |
| 21:46.45 | RP | zecke: Impressive :/ |
| 21:46.52 | zecke | http://greenphone-wiki.org/index.php/Install_a_new_kernel_on_Greenphone |
| 21:47.39 | RP | zecke: omega is some kind of ASIC? |
| 21:47.50 | zecke | RP: no, it is the name of the device |
| 21:48.30 | RP | zecke: what on earth is tricky about an rtc alarm on the pxa? :/ |
| 21:48.44 | RP | or the pmu... |
| 21:48.52 | zecke | RP: well the rtc can be either the PXA one, or the one the philips chip (let me find the number) |
| 21:49.20 | stefan_schmidt | and vibrator and spi |
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| 21:49.24 | stefan_schmidt | even bt |
| 21:49.25 | zecke | PCF50606 |
| 21:49.37 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: vibrator is one GPIO you need to toggle |
| 21:49.52 | stefan_schmidt | Seems you can do nothing on this device without the blobs |
| 21:49.54 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: lol |
| 21:49.55 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: mickeyl can tell a story about lorn's vibrator and how it can be stopped after receiving a sms |
| 21:50.19 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Binary only for 20 lines of code. heh |
| 21:50.32 | stefan_schmidt | with comments |
| 21:50.41 | RP | zecke: The PCF50606 is seemingly in the openmoko |
| 21:51.06 | zecke | RP: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf or rockbox |
| 21:51.18 | zecke | I think it is time to talk with Eirik... |
| 21:51.33 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: Eirik? |
| 21:51.47 | zecke | co founder of TT |
| 21:51.52 | stefan_schmidt | ah |
| 21:52.05 | RP | zecke: Full data sheet available, no reason to withhold the driver |
| 21:53.24 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.28 | RP | zecke: And no reason to keep it closed source |
| 21:55.29 | zecke | RP: right, no reason to keep it closed, just a reason not to enter mainline |
| 21:55.38 | RP | zecke: I don't expect companies to aim for mainline. That's raising the bar far too high it seems :-( |
| 21:56.53 | stefan_schmidt | RP: At least a open out-of-tree driver offer a nice reference. :) |
| 21:56.55 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.18 | RP | zecke: That's nice to see :) |
| 21:58.05 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.49 | RP | That makes sense |
| 22:00.03 | zecke | OT: is marvell offering datasheets the same way intel did (publically viewable)? |
| 22:03.01 | RP | Who knows what they're going to do... |
| 22:03.17 | RP | I hope so... |
| 22:08.47 | cbrake | zecke: I had to sign a NDA to get Marvell PXA datasheets |
| 22:09.10 | cbrake | zecke: there are watermark'd with my company name :-\ |
| 22:09.14 | cbrake | *they |
| 22:09.16 | zecke | cbrake: for the monahan? |
| 22:09.31 | zecke | and intel removed their pxa stuff... |
| 22:09.36 | cbrake | zecke: PXA3xx |
| 22:09.57 | cbrake | zecke: I think that is monohan -- can't even remember anymore ... |
| 22:10.04 | zecke | cbrake: it is |
| 22:11.03 | zecke | a shame OLPC is using marvell stuff :( |
| 22:11.26 | cbrake | zecke: different company, different set of cultural issues. I'm always amazed how companies blindly apply their standard practices to everything -- does not matter if it makes sense. |
| 22:12.03 | kergoth | at my new job, they use lines of code as a metric of code completion progress :( |
| 22:12.08 | kergoth | it makes me sad |
| 22:12.22 | greentux | zecke: whats so bad on marvell wlan stuff? |
| 22:12.33 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
| 22:12.45 | zecke | greentux: technical nothing, lack of freely available documentations sucks |
| 22:13.09 | zecke | greentux: intel was just 'great' |
| 22:13.11 | greentux | zecke: ok, I thought the olpc guys have also a "open source" religion strategy... mmmh |
| 22:13.31 | zecke | greentux: it is in the works, but the mindset of marvell seems closed |
| 22:13.50 | greentux | zecke: perhaps a nda based driver no other dev understand.... |
| 22:13.50 | cbrake | greentux: they needed to use the marvell wifi chip because it has its own processor |
| 22:14.12 | cbrake | greentux: so they could leave the wifi up and routing packets while the main proc was sleeping. |
| 22:14.13 | greentux | cbrake: understand that... but... moko decided to NOT use a closed chip :) |
| 22:14.36 | cbrake | greentux: nod, must be all that they could find. |
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| 22:14.47 | zecke | RP: do you have a copy of the various PXA270 manuals? |
| 22:15.33 | greentux | cbrake: thats to bad... such a nice project, so many hardware to "sell" and no vendor with "open" in mind |
| 22:15.45 | cbrake | greentux: nod |
| 22:15.48 | zecke | greentux: let me find jg's blog about it |
| 22:16.41 | greentux | zecke: ok |
| 22:17.38 | zecke | greentux: http://www.gettysfamily.org/wordpress/?p=27 |
| 22:21.15 | greentux | zecke: mmmh sounds not too bad. |
| 22:21.46 | greentux | ok, will leaving to bed |
| 22:23.59 | zecke | greentux: right, from an OLPC pov it sounds okay |
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| 22:49.01 | RP | zecke: Some of them, not all :/ |
| 22:50.00 | zecke | RP: thanks, I found the ones I was interested in :) |
| 22:50.08 | zecke | with some help |
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| 22:58.03 | florian | koen|away: do we have modest in oe already? |
| 23:03.05 | CoreDump|home | re |
| 23:03.57 | jebba | florian, i don't see a modest*.bb anywhere if that's what you're asking. |
| 23:13.03 | florian | jebba: hum well, not exactly :-) |
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| 23:46.00 | summatusmentis | where is the bug tracker for OZ? |
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| 23:46.54 | zecke | good night |
| 23:48.11 | RP | 'night zecke |