| 00:12.00 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: I think its actually fair to close 1297 as a WONTFIX as work in 3.5.5 has started |
| 00:15.32 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: actually I just closed it as FIXED as I just checked my stuff has been synced into oz354x |
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| 00:23.55 | Laibsch | XorA|gone: OK, great |
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| 06:34.00 | calmofthestorm7 | Any advice? I'm trying to build LyX according to the recipe I get from the oz354x repository from monotone. It chugs for a while, builds all deps, then dies with a bunch of errors about libraries being in the wrong format. I notice on the path to gcc it's trying to link against things in /usr/lib. Any idea how to fix? Everything it needs to link against exists in ARM format in my staging dir. (Output: http://pastebin.ca/345807) |
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| 07:22.05 | Ifaistos | any idea why gettext depends on gettext-dev ? |
| 07:22.27 | calmofthestorm7 | lol no |
| 07:37.23 | goxboxlive | could some one explain for me what a "hense" is on a cell phone? |
| 07:37.35 | goxboxlive | It says: "The phone works fine but has some marks on it hense" |
| 07:37.40 | goxboxlive | What does he mean? |
| 07:41.59 | NAbyss | goxboxlive: "Some marks on it hense" would be an unusual way to put it.. it's probably just generically warning that there's a few marks on it |
| 07:42.44 | goxboxlive | right, so it might be the display. Thanks a lot. |
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| 08:27.38 | koen | good morning all! |
| 08:27.58 | calmofthestorm7 | howdy |
| 08:28.26 | Ifaistos | koen morning |
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| 08:34.25 | Ifaistos | koen : when we specify to a machine config as PACKAGE_EXTRA_ARCHS ="all mpla mpla mpla" does the all mean packages that are not target specific ? |
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| 08:35.20 | Ifaistos | koen : i am having troubles with multimachine builds |
| 08:35.29 | koen | apart from the fact that OE adds 'all' by default, yes, packages with TARGET_ARCH ="all" aren't target specific |
| 08:36.20 | calmofthestorm7 | koen, not sure if I already asked you: I'm trying to build LyX according to the recipe I get from the oz354x repository from monotone. It chugs for a while, builds all deps, then dies with a bunch of errors about libraries being in the wrong format. I notice on the path to gcc it's trying to link against things in /usr/lib. Any idea how to fix? Everything it needs to link against exists in ARM format in my staging dir. (Output: h |
| 08:37.02 | koen | calmofthestorm7: no idea how to fix that, we fixed a lot of those bugs in .dev |
| 08:37.16 | calmofthestorm7 | oh neat |
| 08:37.27 | calmofthestorm7 | kind of counterintuitive that dev would be more likely to build than stable |
| 08:37.37 | calmofthestorm7 | then I shall download dev and build the deps, while I sleep tonight. Thanks;) |
| 08:37.46 | calmofthestorm7 | *crosses fingers for magic fix* |
| 08:37.58 | koen | it's a matter of manpower |
| 08:38.09 | koen | .oz354x is maintained by hrw, .dev by all of us |
| 08:38.14 | calmofthestorm7 | aah |
| 08:38.28 | koen | so you get more breakage in .dev, but also more fixes |
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| 08:39.04 | calmofthestorm7 | interesting |
| 08:42.13 | calmofthestorm7 | how hard would it be for me to mix packages from dev with stable? |
| 08:42.25 | calmofthestorm7 | eg, if I manage to bake lyx from dev would it run on a oz with a stable image? |
| 08:42.31 | calmofthestorm7 | or is it all or nothing? |
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| 08:45.39 | gremlin[it] | hi psokolovsky_ |
| 08:45.47 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
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| 08:47.13 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd6b3b1b5... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): openmoko-panel-plugins: add gsm and mainmenu |
| 08:47.17 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd6f1925c... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-openmoko.bb): task-openmoko: convert to matchbox-panel-2 and clean up a bit |
| 08:48.59 | gremlin[it] | would be a reaL |
| 08:52.04 | hvontres|home | gremlin[it]: Just don't end up like the guy in Multiplicity with a Copy of a copy :) |
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| 08:55.13 | gremlin[it] | hahahah yes yes ... and heve to admit ... the original is already far from "normal" :) :P |
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| 09:01.11 | Sender | anyone knows what "BINFMT_FLAT: reloc outside program" means? |
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| 09:15.29 | CIA-20 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8cde5e50... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.19-hh11.bb): (log message trimmed) |
| 09:15.29 | CIA-20 | linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.19-hh11: Add new release. |
| 09:15.30 | CIA-20 | * Changes since -hh10 include: |
| 09:15.30 | CIA-20 | 1. aximx5 port revived - boots with LCD working. UDC known not to work. |
| 09:15.30 | CIA-20 | 2. aximx50 buttons driver. |
| 09:15.31 | CIA-20 | 3. Macine-independ touchscreen driver for ADS7846/TSC2046, first version so |
| 09:15.33 | CIA-20 | far, used for h4000 and works for hx4700 too. Still needs tweaking to |
| 09:24.04 | psokolovsky_ | Laibsch, do you think that "To achieve what we are trying to accomplish" is good wording? ;-) |
| 09:27.59 | Ifaistos | has anyone noticed header files to be included in a uclibc build ? |
| 09:28.23 | Ifaistos | for some reason gettext seems to depend on gettext-dev which depends on uclibc-dev |
| 09:28.47 | Ifaistos | as a result i get all kind of header files included in the rootfs |
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| 09:32.54 | koen | Ifaistos: INHERIT += "insane" in local.conf and rebuild |
| 09:33.29 | koen | that should error out on packaging errors |
| 09:33.42 | Ifaistos | ok |
| 09:36.42 | CIA-20 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r1fc4ea96... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.19-hh12.bb): (log message trimmed) |
| 09:36.42 | CIA-20 | linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.19-hh12: Add new release. |
| 09:36.42 | CIA-20 | * Changes since -hh11 include: |
| 09:36.42 | CIA-20 | 1. rx1950 port added. |
| 09:36.42 | CIA-20 | 2. cpugreq fixes to support PCMCIA working over freq changes. |
| 09:36.44 | CIA-20 | 3. cpufreq support for htcmagician. |
| 09:36.46 | CIA-20 | 4. ads7846_adc_ssp fixes. |
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| 10:04.26 | Ifaistos | koen : insane did not report any error but the header files are there :( |
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| 10:07.34 | Ifaistos | does this have to do anything ? -> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libintl = "libintl" |
| 10:07.50 | Ifaistos | the provider of libint is gettext |
| 10:10.16 | Laibsch | psokolovsky_: yes, although I hesitated about that particular one. If you have a better idea, feel free to change. At least it is a sentence now which was not the case before. |
| 10:15.05 | psokolovsky_ | Laibsch, well, it's sound like tautology. if in real world there's idioms like "if we want to do what we want to do", then using more funky than "do" verbs, and synonym-interleave them, makes it a bit funny. ymmv ;-) |
| 10:15.16 | psokolovsky_ | anyway, I'm not native English speaker ;-) |
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| 11:33.37 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re63a2eef... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): openmoko distro: add openmoko distro, slightly modified from openmoko svn |
| 11:44.31 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r04a1a2e0... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 11:44.31 | CIA-20 | tslib: merge patch from openmoko: |
| 11:44.31 | CIA-20 | This patch adds support for "EVIOCGRAB" on the input device, which |
| 11:44.31 | CIA-20 | tells the kernel _not_ to deliver events of the touchscreen to |
| 11:44.31 | CIA-20 | /dev/input/mice. |
| 11:44.32 | CIA-20 | This is probably what most people want, since unprocessed raw touchscreen |
| 11:44.36 | CIA-20 | events should not be converted to emulated PS/2 mouse movements. |
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| 11:49.54 | zecke | mithro: hey, how are you? |
| 11:50.06 | mithro | okay |
| 11:50.18 | zecke | mithro: did you finish your hardware? |
| 11:51.48 | mithro | zecke: not due to middle of this year |
| 12:04.02 | mithro | been up to anything intresting? |
| 12:04.28 | zecke | can't comment :) |
| 12:04.41 | zecke | mithro: the most interesting now is being abused by a cold/flu |
| 12:06.19 | mithro | i put my back out and was in bed on pain killers for a few days |
| 12:07.05 | mithro | otherwise I would be waiting on the first complete prototype of the device |
| 12:08.25 | Ifaistos | koen: have a look at this -> http://www.pastebin.ca/361894 is this normal ? |
| 12:12.38 | mithro | welp off to bed |
| 12:13.41 | zecke | koen|away: well, emulators are not overrated. They are needed for systems where you don not emulate 90% out of the box. |
| 12:18.21 | koen | Ifaistos: no, it means that uclibc packaging sucks |
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| 12:26.37 | Ifaistos | i wonder if other uclibc distros have the same issue and no one noticed or if this is a 2.9.28-svn issue |
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| 12:35.36 | zecke | ljp: Will Trolltech release SXE now as OLPC develops Bitfrost? |
| 12:42.30 | zecke | aeh, what is wrong with our website? |
| 12:52.04 | koen | zecke: apache doesn't access the framebuffer correctly, so image loading is slow |
| 12:52.44 | koen | s/correctly/directly/ |
| 12:54.15 | zecke | hehe, I should really cache images in SRAM |
| 12:55.44 | zecke | koen: do you know who removes the $WORKDIR/install/package-name directory and when? |
| 12:56.06 | zecke | koen: package_qa fails as the dir is empty for the next run (only a do_install helps here) |
| 12:56.51 | Ifaistos | koen : And this is for gettext -> http://www.pastebin.ca/361952 |
| 12:56.52 | zecke | BTW: I hate this world, klibc has EABI support (again and again every time I check) |
| 13:01.21 | Ifaistos | koen : these are the header files that get included in the rootfs -> http://www.pastebin.ca/361956 |
| 13:02.41 | zecke | hmm this dir is not empty |
| 13:05.02 | Ifaistos | zecke : are you refering to what i posted ? |
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| 13:06.50 | zecke | Ifaistos: no :) |
| 13:09.19 | zecke | koen: okay the dir gets emptied on the second run of do_package |
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| 13:41.46 | mr_nice | zecke: do you have some time for me? |
| 13:44.43 | zecke | some |
| 13:45.00 | zecke | I hope I remember some of the stuff you will ask |
| 13:46.35 | mr_nice | zecke: do you know how the simpad wakes up? in simpad.c is a line /* enable wake-up on GPIO0 (Assabet...) */ PWER = GFER = GRER = 1; |
| 13:47.15 | mr_nice | zecke: is it neccessary to have a driver for gpio0 or should it wake up by just pressing the power button |
| 13:47.57 | zecke | mr_nice: this is a stock StrongARM thing. We define GPIO0 which is the Power Button (IIRC) as wakeup source |
| 13:48.18 | zecke | mr_nice: this should make a reset, the cpu should jump to the reset vector and the device should resume |
| 13:49.02 | zecke | mr_nice: the tricky part, which Chicken (Alexander Lange), struggled with when porting bootldr was, you had to toggle something to keep the machine on |
| 13:50.00 | mr_nice | zecke: So there is no irq handler for gpio0 needed? |
| 13:50.08 | Crofton|laptop | It is amusing that every map of Brussels I find, has differnet names for the same streets |
| 13:51.16 | koen | Crofton|laptop: it's dead center in the language divide |
| 13:51.24 | Crofton|laptop | yeah |
| 13:51.24 | koen | Crofton|laptop: like quebec in canada |
| 13:51.25 | mr_nice | zecke: I ask because the driver for the power button isn't written atm. And I need to know if I have to write it first to resume the simpad. |
| 13:51.28 | Crofton|laptop | It shows :) |
| 13:51.51 | Crofton|laptop | oh, nothing could be as bad as quebec :) |
| 13:53.46 | XorA|gone | Crofton|laptop: seeing asd your now the expert, you'll have to do the OE map ->astrid -> beer |
| 13:53.51 | zecke | mr_nice: no, just make sure the power button (would be a really simple driver) is defined as wakeup source |
| 13:54.21 | zecke | mr_nice: e.g. pb_ created a generic GPIO based btn 'framework' |
| 13:54.46 | Crofton|laptop | I only think I know where the Astrid is :) |
| 13:55.12 | mr_nice | zecke: is it in mainline or on hh.org? |
| 13:55.12 | XorA|gone | Crofton|laptop: I am landing at Charlaroi (or however you spell it) and info on that airport is kinda vague |
| 13:55.16 | Crofton|laptop | but by Friday, I will know how to get from Astrid to beer |
| 13:55.34 | mr_nice | zecke: where do I have to devine the wakeup source? |
| 13:55.42 | mr_nice | zecke: in simpad.c? |
| 13:55.46 | Crofton|laptop | I come in th einternational airport and can get a trin to crentral |
| 13:56.14 | Crofton|laptop | I saw something on the train website about Charleoi |
| 13:56.21 | XorA | the advantage I suppose of coming in some wierd Airport is the airfar is 10.18 GBP |
| 13:56.35 | Crofton|laptop | that is crazy |
| 13:56.48 | Crofton|laptop | do you have to hand crack the engines? |
| 13:57.04 | XorA | Crofton|laptop: bugger knows how Ryanair make money |
| 13:57.26 | XorA | Crofton|laptop: maybe they ship drugs, thats why your luggage allowance is so low |
| 13:58.07 | Crofton|laptop | heh |
| 13:58.08 | XorA | the air stewardesses do tend to be rather high quality though |
| 13:59.33 | zecke | mr_nice: the machine init function would make a good candidate |
| 13:59.50 | zecke | mr_nice: but it should be already setup properly (I assume this) |
| 14:00.29 | mr_nice | zecke: Ah, yes PWER=PWER_GPIO0 | PWER_RTC; defines it as wakeup source in simpad.c? |
| 14:00.55 | zecke | mr_nice: yes |
| 14:01.05 | mr_nice | zecke: sorry for asking such stupid but I want to figure out why it won't wake up ;) |
| 14:01.49 | zecke | mr_nice: I wondered why you asked. How do you define not waking up? is the serial/screen dead? |
| 14:02.02 | mr_nice | zecke: yes |
| 14:02.21 | mr_nice | zecke: If I do a apm -s. I can't get it back |
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| 14:03.01 | zecke | mr_nice: try to find out if it tries to wakeup (it should) |
| 14:03.11 | mr_nice | zecke: How to do this? |
| 14:03.18 | zecke | mr_nice: e.g. go somewhere in the resume path and set one of the LEDs to on |
| 14:03.42 | mr_nice | zecke: thx I will try this :) |
| 14:04.51 | zecke | mr_nice: or enable low level debugging and print something to the serial |
| 14:05.32 | mr_nice | zecke: How to enable low lever debugging? |
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| 14:09.10 | zecke | mr_nice: check for CONFIG_DEBUG_LL you need to enable it with make menuconfig... |
| 14:09.24 | mr_nice | zecke: thx |
| 14:11.08 | mr_nice | zecke: If waking up,powerbutton driver, battery driver and the bug in the mq200 driver is solved I would say the 2.6 driver is as competed as the 2.4 driver is :) |
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| 14:12.08 | zecke | battery is simple, powerbutton is trivial, and with the datasheet mq200 is possible as well |
| 14:12.39 | mr_nice | zecke: yes :) |
| 14:18.53 | Crofton|laptop | I am talking with a guy running an image I buitl from OE on the OSK |
| 14:19.07 | Crofton|laptop | he istrying to use the serial, after stopping getty |
| 14:19.15 | Crofton|laptop | he can write chars to it, but not read them |
| 14:19.22 | Crofton|laptop | ring a bell with anyone? |
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| 14:27.11 | zecke | koen: I think you have to search a new topic. QtopiaCore can also work with IO based Graphic Controlers |
| 14:30.11 | CoreDump|home | is it possible to connect a laptop to say, another laptop directly via ethernet w/o crossover cable? |
| 14:30.33 | gremlin[it] | sure via cross ethernet cable |
| 14:31.17 | gremlin[it] | no ... i think about no one ethernet on laptop have auto MDX capability ... |
| 14:32.16 | CoreDump|home | thought maybe there was a software trick =) To bad |
| 14:32.51 | zecke | CoreDump|home: if you have a mac |
| 14:33.02 | CoreDump|home | zecke: nahh, I'm cheap |
| 14:33.12 | zecke | CoreDump|home: mac's are cheap too |
| 14:34.05 | CoreDump|home | zecke: they are not exactly expensive if you consider the built-in hardware. However, they are a bit over my budget =) |
| 14:34.25 | zecke | hehe |
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| 14:34.48 | NAiL | morning joshin ;) |
| 14:34.51 | CoreDump|home | now where did I put this ancient 10Mbit hub |
| 14:35.09 | joshin | Morning NAiL! |
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| 14:40.17 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 14:52.38 | zecke | mickey|slides: mithro : how do I read a byte in python? how do I swap endianes of a byte? |
| 14:56.29 | mickey|slides | use struct module |
| 14:58.43 | zecke | mickey|slides: hmm that is bad api :( |
| 14:58.53 | mickey|slides | well |
| 14:58.55 | mickey|slides | you get what you ask for |
| 14:59.07 | mickey|slides | low level access in python is wrong tool for the job as well :) |
| 14:59.13 | zecke | mickey|slides: which module allows me to use inline assembly? |
| 14:59.25 | mickey|slides | dunno offhand, i don't do such crazy things |
| 14:59.47 | zecke | mickey|slides: I think doing inline assembly would increase the readbility above struct.unpack |
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| 15:02.42 | zecke | mickey|slides: back to your slides! (which day is the presentation on?). I have read about the different filesystems |
| 15:02.58 | zecke | mickey|slides: and I find initramfs quite funny, specially the merging it is supposed to do |
| 15:04.34 | mickey|slides | zecke: Thursday, 22th. 14:00 presentation 14:15 query session 16:30 life or die |
| 15:05.11 | zecke | mickey|slides: and after 16:30 is overtime with sudden death? |
| 15:05.17 | Crofton|laptop | ah this is defense? |
| 15:05.17 | zecke | mickey|slides: or cookies and biscuits? |
| 15:05.29 | mickey|slides | zecke: cookies and biscuits in any case |
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| 15:05.39 | mickey|slides | Crofton: yep |
| 15:05.43 | Crofton|laptop | Hmmm, I suppose it is in German also? |
| 15:05.50 | mickey|slides | yep |
| 15:05.53 | Crofton|laptop | heh |
| 15:06.02 | mickey|slides | which is ok, since it's my mother tongue |
| 15:06.04 | mickey|slides | heh |
| 15:06.08 | gerwinin | MickeyL: Can you arrange the flyers and posters for the booth ? |
| 15:06.09 | Crofton|laptop | I arrive in Brussels at 7:30 AM Thrusday |
| 15:06.11 | Crofton|laptop | yeah |
| 15:06.29 | mickey|slides | gerwinin: sorry, no way. i have my presentation on thursday and i'm flying on friday |
| 15:06.55 | zecke | I can print/plot anything you throw at me |
| 15:07.10 | mickey|slides | ya, problem is the content |
| 15:07.12 | gerwinin | MickeyL: Zecke before when do I need to deliver the materials |
| 15:07.24 | gerwinin | MickeyL : I will deliver the content |
| 15:07.35 | gremlin[it] | gerwinin i send u an email ... if other help is need ask :) |
| 15:07.47 | gerwinin | Gremlin : cool :) |
| 15:07.49 | zecke | Thursday 16h so I can go and plot the poster in a shop |
| 15:08.15 | zecke | gerwinin: printing flyers until friday morning |
| 15:08.29 | gerwinin | Zecke: Okay and can you get a receipt so that we can pay you from the donations we get |
| 15:09.04 | gerwinin | MickeyL: can you send me your slides so we can publish them on the website |
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| 15:09.31 | mickey|slides | which slides are you referring to? |
| 15:09.46 | gerwinin | MickeyL: the slides you are making for your presentation |
| 15:09.56 | mickey|slides | ah, for the OE one? |
| 15:10.09 | mickey|slides | yes, I can send them to you. i hope i will at least finish them in time for FOSDEM. |
| 15:10.37 | gerwinin | MickeyL: okay |
| 15:11.04 | gerwinin | MickeyL: I will send the pressrelease to linuxdevices tomorrow |
| 15:11.09 | mickey|slides | cool |
| 15:11.11 | mickey|slides | thanks |
| 15:11.30 | gerwinin | MickeyL: I will announce your lecture there as well |
| 15:12.31 | gerwinin | I made some appointment with somebody from kde who raised a foundation for kde , he will explain us how it is done |
| 15:13.55 | gerwinin | MickeyL: I am thinking how we can present the project gpe/opie/gpephone/openmoko |
| 15:17.28 | zecke | gerwinin: and the name is? |
| 15:17.53 | gerwinin | Zecke: A german dude that speaks dutch very well |
| 15:18.00 | gerwinin | Zecke: let me check |
| 15:18.09 | zecke | gerwinin: Sebastian? |
| 15:19.29 | gerwinin | Zecke: yes |
| 15:19.31 | mickey|slides | gerwinin: Don't announce it yet, I only have a backup talk |
| 15:19.43 | mickey|slides | which means, in case one is cancelling |
| 15:19.58 | zecke | gerwinin: hehe, we have our KDE e.V. for years |
| 15:20.04 | gerwinin | MickeyL: I hate it that people from trolltech and stuff get time to talk and we don't |
| 15:20.10 | mickey|slides | hehe |
| 15:20.12 | mickey|slides | well we have the booth |
| 15:20.16 | mickey|slides | and we have been there twice in a row |
| 15:20.23 | zecke | mickey|slides: or someone falls down the stairs and breaks a leg... :} |
| 15:20.29 | mickey|slides | hah |
| 15:20.32 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|slides: Get me drunken on sunday afternoon and you get my slot. :) |
| 15:20.36 | mickey|slides | and we will be mentioned in both OpenMoko and OpenEZX presentation |
| 15:20.41 | gerwinin | Zecke: We should ask them how they did it |
| 15:20.44 | mickey|slides | stefan_schmidt: nah, OpenEZX is important |
| 15:21.02 | zecke | gerwinin: I'm a member of this KDE e.V. (not since founding but still) |
| 15:21.18 | zecke | mickey|slides: just do it like mjg, and hijack one session |
| 15:21.23 | gerwinin | Zecke: We should have a look how they do things |
| 15:21.34 | stefan_schmidt | mickey|slides: heh, ok. That means I need to get my slides ready. :) |
| 15:21.34 | zecke | gerwinin: ev.kde.org |
| 15:22.11 | gerwinin | Zecke: cool |
| 15:22.24 | gerwinin | Zecke: ev.openembedded.org :) |
| 15:23.01 | zecke | gerwinin: in Berlin we slightly talked about the possibilities we have: e.V. in germany, using SPI and Ltd. in England |
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| 15:23.40 | zecke | gerwinin: at least we pretty much agreed on the purpose and DO NOTS of such an association :} |
| 15:23.50 | zecke | for the rest I failed to investigate (~lart time) |
| 15:24.11 | gerwinin | Zecke: okay , so we should make the next step ? |
| 15:24.52 | zecke | gerwinin: draw a matrix with the possible forms of the association as rows (e.V., SPI, Ltd.) |
| 15:24.59 | gerwinin | Zecke: ok |
| 15:25.07 | zecke | gerwinin: and check stuff like impeachment, liability, membership, needed work, etc. pp. |
| 15:25.17 | gerwinin | Zecke: okay |
| 15:25.20 | zecke | gerwinin: summarize them and put them up for discussion |
| 15:25.48 | gerwinin | Zecke: Let me prepare this |
| 15:26.39 | zecke | gerwinin: e.g. I'm the president of the assocation and I get less or more insane/nuts (whatever is worse) and will spend even more money on crack, how do you get rid of me. How do you prevent me spending money on bogus things :) |
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| 15:29.42 | gerwinin | zecke: I will put some things in the paper |
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| 15:30.49 | zecke | gerwinin: but Sebastian is good to talk with. He is _the_ KDE marketing guy, also part of the head of KDE e.V. |
| 15:31.02 | zecke | (even if I have met him only once) |
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| 15:34.35 | gerwinin | Zecke: Yes |
| 15:34.35 | hillct | good mornin all |
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| 15:36.34 | hillct | I'm having some difficulty dealing with paths in a .bb recipie |
| 15:37.15 | zecke | hillct: ask your questions, program outputs more than two lines go to pastebin |
| 15:37.17 | zecke | ~pastebin |
| 15:37.21 | ibot | well, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 15:37.45 | hillct | the build is simple. The makefile is basic and does not change - it's fully formed in the unpacked source. |
| 15:38.10 | hillct | I'm doing an oe_runmake in do_compile() |
| 15:38.25 | hillct | I get the error, unknown target |
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| 15:38.49 | zecke | hillct: make sure your 'S' dir is the right one?! |
| 15:39.28 | hillct | I added 'oenote ${PWD} above the oe_runmake and it appears to be the top level directory, not the source |
| 15:40.00 | hillct | this build does not use automake or any of the other snazzier elements |
| 15:40.24 | zecke | hillct: okay, enough monologue, answer the above question |
| 15:40.54 | hillct | ok. I'll review all the paths, but what's the preferred method for changing the path in do_compile? simple cd or some other mathod? |
| 15:41.11 | zecke | 16:38 < zecke> hillct: make sure your 'S' dir is the right one?! |
| 15:41.33 | hillct | will know in a moment |
| 15:41.49 | zecke | hillct: do_compile is called from the dir inside the 'S' variable (see base.bbclass and bitbake.conf for the default value of S) |
| 15:42.11 | hillct | K. soungd good |
| 15:42.13 | hillct | checking |
| 15:46.04 | hillct | Path is /home/slug/releases/slugos-3.10-beta/openslug-nslu2.tmp/work/ntpclient-2003_194-r0/ntpclient-2003_194 |
| 15:46.14 | hillct | but |
| 15:46.22 | hillct | that directory remains empty |
| 15:46.46 | hillct | source is located in /home/slug/releases/slugos-3.10-beta/openslug-nslu2.tmp/work/ntpclient-2003_194-r0/ntpclient |
| 15:47.10 | zecke | hillct: check bitbake.conf for the default value of 'S' |
| 15:47.39 | zecke | hillct: which is package-name + -version. so you are free to set 'S' to something else inside your bbfile |
| 15:47.50 | zecke | hillct: e.g. S = "${WORKDIR}/ntpclient" |
| 15:48.41 | hillct | the bitbake config seems valid |
| 15:48.43 | hillct | S = "${WORKDIR}/${P}" |
| 15:49.07 | hillct | P = "${PN}-${PV}" |
| 15:49.08 | zecke | hillct: check what 'P' is |
| 15:49.12 | hillct | which seems fine |
| 15:49.19 | zecke | hillct: hehe |
| 15:49.21 | hillct | and works for other packages |
| 15:49.35 | hillct | so I'll manually set it |
| 15:49.37 | hillct | but |
| 15:49.47 | zecke | yes? |
| 15:50.04 | zecke | ntpclient vs. "ntpclient-2003_194" |
| 15:50.14 | hillct | is there something 'wrong' that would cause the source not to be placed in the directory which includes the package version? |
| 15:50.17 | hillct | yes |
| 15:50.19 | zecke | the one who packaged the ntpclient did not put the version number into the base dir |
| 15:50.29 | hillct | d'oh |
| 15:50.34 | hillct | it's that simple |
| 15:50.36 | hillct | ok |
| 15:50.46 | zecke | hillct: Actually we would prefer if maintainers put the version number into the dir name, we can't enforce that though |
| 15:50.57 | hillct | sure |
| 15:51.06 | zecke | hillct: this is why you can set 'S' to point BitBake/OE to the real dir |
| 15:51.06 | hillct | I was looking for some deper issue |
| 15:51.12 | hillct | I should know better |
| 15:51.23 | zecke | hillct: deeper than human behaviour? |
| 15:51.24 | hillct | thanks |
| 15:51.42 | hillct | deeper than author packaging siliness |
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| 15:53.26 | zecke | OT: Is the kernel stripped before it is zImaged? |
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| 16:50.21 | timtim | okay, after a week or two of tinkering i have OE making bootable images, kernels and our patched uboot for HG linkstations and kuroboxes |
| 16:50.51 | timtim | it just booted first time!!!! |
| 16:50.56 | zecke | congrats |
| 16:51.27 | timtim | i guess i should read a manual somewhere before submitting stuff upstream |
| 16:51.53 | koen | or submit, read manual, resubmit |
| 16:57.49 | timtim | i'll go with reading first. :) |
| 17:00.18 | timtim | all i read was getting started hehe |
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| 17:02.00 | dma` | so any luck porting the sharp_mmcsd driver to 2.6? |
| 17:02.36 | dma` | I have http://www.dmatech.org/alt/sharp_mmcsd_m.asm but that's all I have so far. |
| 17:04.35 | koen | dma`: is that like http://josejx.net/collie/ ? |
| 17:04.49 | dma` | yeah |
| 17:05.19 | dma` | As you might gather, I'm not very familiar with the arm instruction set. |
| 17:05.56 | dma` | although IDA did some pretty nice work on that. |
| 17:13.06 | hillct | is there a consistant method for testing whether an RRECOMMEND has been met, from within a postinit script block? |
| 17:15.41 | zecke | hillct: dunno, the only thing I can think of is 'test' |
| 17:16.34 | hillct | tough word on which to search the docs |
| 17:16.57 | zecke | hillct: the shell command test |
| 17:17.06 | hillct | oh |
| 17:17.18 | hillct | ok |
| 17:17.20 | zecke | hillct: you should ask yourself if RRECOMMEND is the right thing in this case though |
| 17:17.38 | hillct | yeah |
| 17:18.03 | hillct | I don't want to make cron a dependency. it's an alternative method for deploying ntpclient |
| 17:18.15 | hillct | calling as a cron job offers additional functionality |
| 17:18.41 | hillct | I may just remove the dependency completely, and ditch the recommendation |
| 17:19.10 | koen | hillct: test for /usr/bin/cron being present? |
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| 17:21.11 | hillct | yeah. that's one approach - probably the way to go. I was just thinking about testing for the installation of the package itself |
| 17:21.17 | hillct | rather than a particular binary |
| 17:21.25 | hillct | seems more flexible |
| 17:21.47 | zecke | hillct: not if you have /usr/bin/cron hardcoded |
| 17:21.58 | CIA-20 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rc416a736... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): |
| 17:21.59 | CIA-20 | classes/insane.bbclass: Print the actual error, write a log file |
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| 17:21.59 | CIA-20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.59 | CIA-20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.00 | CIA-20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.00 | zecke | test -e `which cron` |
| 17:22.02 | CIA-20 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r7ebd0697... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): (log message trimmed) |
| 17:22.06 | CIA-20 | classes/insane.bbclass: Allow errors to be ignored |
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| 17:22.10 | CIA-20 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:22.14 | CIA-20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.16 | CIA-20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.33 | hillct | which gives useful return codes? |
| 17:22.39 | hillct | guess that'd work |
| 17:23.03 | zecke | dunno, I#m not good at shell stuff |
| 17:23.24 | zecke | hillct: but this is racy, someone could install cron after installing ntpclient ;) |
| 17:24.03 | hillct | true |
| 17:24.25 | hillct | in which case, it won't have used the cron-specific portion of the setup script |
| 17:24.43 | hillct | but would execute the cron-specific portion of the prerm script |
| 17:24.47 | hillct | yeah. it would be bad |
| 17:24.54 | koen | + bb.error("QA issue, koen give us a better msg!!!") |
| 17:24.54 | hillct | decision made. |
| 17:24.56 | hillct | Thanks |
| 17:25.18 | zecke | koen: this was always there |
| 17:25.27 | koen | I know |
| 17:25.37 | hillct | Better message: *** Out Of Cheese Error *** |
| 17:25.37 | koen | just got reminded of it |
| 17:26.08 | ifaistos_ppc | ) |
| 17:27.50 | mwester | hehehe |
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| 17:28.43 | koen | zecke: can we make insane.bbclass behave like bug-buddy? |
| 17:29.02 | ifaistos_ppc | should i add an enrty tot the bugtracker regarding uclibc shipping header files to the rootfs? |
| 17:29.21 | koen | zecke: e.g. report the issues to our QA server, which will do some dupe checking and file a bug? |
| 17:29.28 | koen | ifaistos_ppc: yes |
| 17:29.47 | zecke | koen: BTW: miguel's blog entry (or the reference from the M$ engineer is funny) |
| 17:30.04 | zecke | koen: like bug buddy? Crash and recursively exec bug-buddy? |
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| 17:34.10 | mr_nice | how can I start a framebuffer programm over a serial connection? |
| 17:34.38 | koen | hostname $ app |
| 17:34.46 | koen | just like any other app :) |
| 17:34.57 | mr_nice | koen: thx |
| 17:35.04 | zecke | mr_nice: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 |
| 17:35.57 | mwester | that'll make an interesting display, methinks |
| 17:36.12 | ifaistos_ppc | ) |
| 17:36.25 | zecke | koen: actually this on my todo. I will continue on the checks for now |
| 17:36.28 | ifaistos_ppc | matrix style |
| 17:36.39 | mr_nice | zecke: I will try :) |
| 17:38.22 | ifaistos_ppc | koen: did you try the angstrom image on the efika |
| 17:38.35 | koen | ifaistos_ppc: not yet |
| 17:39.37 | ifaistos_ppc | changes to the network tab do not get applied |
| 17:42.35 | ifaistos_ppc | sound also does not work |
| 17:51.51 | hrw | Laibsch: PING |
| 17:51.56 | hrw | hi guys |
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| 17:55.20 | ifaistos_ppc | hi |
| 17:55.35 | koen | hey hrw |
| 17:56.09 | XorA | hey hrw |
| 17:56.17 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 17:56.55 | hrw | which device give to Laibsch? tosa or spitz... I need to send 'fosdem hardware insurance' mail and do not want to take 2 zaurii with me |
| 17:57.04 | CIA-20 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rdb6d8e18... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): (log message trimmed) |
| 17:57.04 | CIA-20 | angstrom-2007.1.conf: Ship just en-gb locale by default. |
| 17:57.05 | CIA-20 | * Ship just basic locale by default. Locales are big (~1Mb uncompr.), so |
| 17:57.05 | CIA-20 | shipping some adhoc subset will be still useless and size burden for |
| 17:57.05 | CIA-20 | users of all other languages/countries. Instead, worth to make it easy |
| 17:57.05 | CIA-20 | to install additional languages: installer/wizard + metapackages which |
| 17:57.09 | CIA-20 | will RRECOMMEND as much as possible content for a given language |
| 17:57.11 | CIA-20 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r98a9f60d... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom-2007.1.conf: Allow to set DISTRO_TYPE in local.conf. |
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| 18:00.53 | koen | psokolovsky_: how big is an h3600 image after those changes? |
| 18:02.25 | koen | top - 19:02:19 up 347 days, 5:29, 10 users, load average: 12.87, 7.86, 4.18 |
| 18:02.48 | psokolovsky_ | koen, 16Mb straight (release) ;-) which is still too big, of course |
| 18:07.46 | psokolovsky_ | koen, task-base: |
| 18:07.46 | psokolovsky_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.46 | psokolovsky_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.05 | mr_nice | koen: hostname $ app don't work :(. I am getting a "Not running in a graphics capable console, and unable to find one". cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb works fine. |
| 18:08.12 | psokolovsky_ | koen, what about making wifi COMBINED_FEATURE too? |
| 18:08.32 | koen | psokolovsky_: consult with RP or hrw |
| 18:08.41 | psokolovsky_ | ok |
| 18:08.59 | psokolovsky_ | hrw, ^^^ any thoughts? |
| 18:11.17 | hrw | psokolovsky_: go ahead |
| 18:11.28 | psokolovsky_ | hrw, ok, thanks |
| 18:16.21 | hrw | I have total redefinition of task-base in queue |
| 18:16.39 | hrw | but will add any changes which will be created by you |
| 18:17.45 | psokolovsky_ | ok |
| 18:18.29 | hrw | cu |
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| 18:45.12 | CIA-20 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r342f7925... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:45.12 | CIA-20 | task-base: Make "wifi" belong to COMBINED_FEATURES. |
| 18:45.12 | CIA-20 | * This is consistent with how "bluetooth" is handled already, and, assuming |
| 18:45.12 | CIA-20 | that distro supports wifi, essentially allows machine to decide if wifi packages |
| 18:45.12 | CIA-20 | go into rootfs or would be installed from feed. This is helpful for machines |
| 18:45.13 | CIA-20 | which don't have wifi and devoid of any means of external card extension, or |
| 18:45.17 | CIA-20 | for machines with very small ROM (like, for example, h3600 with its 16Mb, |
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| 18:48.04 | psokolovsky_ | ok, with that change, h3600 jffs2 is 15872K. should be pretty good, hope gremlit[it] will try it now |
| 18:48.38 | koen | still a bit tight for jffs2, but at least it's flashable now |
| 18:51.29 | koen | psokolovsky_: I still think 'fuser' and 'setserial' shouldn't be in task base |
| 18:51.34 | psokolovsky_ | yes, I hope ;-). too bad I chicken to flash yet, would need working g_ether to try over nfs ;-) |
| 18:53.15 | psokolovsky_ | koen, hm, don't even know. I guess, fuser indeed better be pulled by deps only if needed. as for setserial, dunno about its usecases, still too green with using serial stuff on pdas ;-) |
| 18:53.42 | koen | it's as usefull for a user as gdb |
| 18:54.59 | CIA-20 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rfc57f4ef... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/task-angstrom-x11.bb): |
| 18:54.59 | CIA-20 | task-angstrom-x11: Remove dependency on detect-stylus. |
| 18:55.00 | CIA-20 | * detect-stylus is no longer used in OE, which adopted convention of |
| 18:55.00 | CIA-20 | having the touchscreen device at /dev/input/touchscreen0 (for all 2.6 |
| 18:55.00 | CIA-20 | devices being created by udev rule). |
| 18:55.03 | CIA-20 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rd94ee355... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/task-angstrom-x11.bb): task-angstrom-x11: Bump PR for latest change. |
| 18:56.50 | psokolovsky_ | just hope that openmoko isn't stuck with detect-stylus, and won't need to pull it back ;-I |
| 18:59.30 | psokolovsky_ | (I don't say openmoko uses it btw - just wonder if it does) |
| 18:59.41 | koen | no, they use the udev link |
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| 19:15.03 | mmp | XorA: Hello, could I ask you some asoc related questions? |
| 19:15.22 | mmp | (if you have time) |
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| 19:19.49 | hillct | mmp: ask, so in the event one of the experts gets back to their computer and sees it, they can respond |
| 19:22.04 | mmp | hillct: the problem is that there is no official way to contact persons behind ASoC and the only one I know and is here is XorA:). But good point, I almost forgot to not ask to ask. |
| 19:24.22 | mmp | My problem is dapm_power_widgets function in soc-dapm.c, which should power up all neccessary widgets. The power-up sequence doesn't contain widgets of type 'switch', which are used here and there in ak4535 driver, so they don't get activated. |
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| 19:24.34 | sirfred | Hi |
| 19:27.53 | mmp | hillct: and moreover, I did not read your message precisely enough and partially misunderstood it. :) |
| 19:29.17 | hillct | heh |
| 19:29.46 | zecke | mmp: we have Xora and lrg here |
| 19:30.01 | zecke | mmp: both get their food/pay if you ask them |
| 19:32.53 | mmp | zecke: yes; I asked just XorA because lrg told me he will be not available these days. |
| 19:33.27 | zecke | hehe |
| 19:33.43 | zecke | hehe |
| 19:33.49 | hillct | I used to do that |
| 19:33.55 | hillct | and printf statements |
| 19:33.58 | hillct | scary |
| 19:34.07 | mmp | :) |
| 19:34.37 | hillct | There was one year when I ws dreaming in C on a regular basis |
| 19:37.42 | mmp | hillct: computer sciences student? :) |
| 19:38.56 | hillct | My degree is in finance actually |
| 19:39.08 | hillct | this was 20 years ago though |
| 19:39.19 | hillct | I wasn't getting laid much back then |
| 19:39.27 | mmp | ahh, sorry :) |
| 19:39.36 | hillct | so I didn't have much else to dream about |
| 19:39.43 | hillct | don't be sorry. I was 11 years old |
| 19:39.46 | zecke | hillct: so you switched to computer science :) |
| 19:40.05 | hillct | no, I was just a geek as a kid |
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| 20:10.46 | zecke | anyone with access to armeb here? could you send me any small binary? |
| 20:15.42 | hillct | what do you need? |
| 20:16.21 | hillct | any binary or someting specific? |
| 20:18.41 | hillct | oh. 'any'. K just a sec |
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| 20:23.06 | koen | zecke: download an nslu2 ipkg if you need an arm(v5t)eb binary |
| 20:26.21 | hillct | zecke: http://vmaster.scoophost.com/logrotate_armeb |
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| 20:34.14 | Ifaistos | i think i have hit a multimachine problem |
| 20:35.15 | Ifaistos | it build for one machine ok, but when i try to build for a second it fails when creating rootfs |
| 20:35.25 | Ifaistos | http://www.pastebin.ca/362409 |
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| 20:51.02 | zecke | hillct: thanks |
| 20:51.14 | hillct | np |
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| 20:55.20 | psokolovsky_ | Ifaistos, one thing you can try is to kill Packages* files and retry |
| 20:56.38 | pb_ | g'day zecke |
| 20:56.53 | zecke | hey master |
| 20:57.54 | Ifaistos | psokolovsky_ : Any idea where the problem is ? The multimachine.bbclass or in rootfs.bbclass ? |
| 20:58.43 | psokolovsky_ | Ifaistos, try what i say, and let's see if it helps |
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| 20:59.28 | zecke | Ifaistos: e.g check if you have these packages, and check the architectures of them |
| 20:59.39 | zecke | Ifaistos: then check the used ipkg.conf and the defined set of archs |
| 21:00.20 | Ifaistos | psokolovsky_ : cleaned tmp/ rebuilding from scratch |
| 21:02.55 | Ifaistos | zecke : ok |
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| 21:08.23 | XorA | mmp: can you email linux@wolfsonmicro.com and Ill see if I can find answers at work tomorrow |
| 21:08.53 | XorA | mmp: Im not really here just now |
| 21:10.25 | mmp | XorA :) |
| 21:11.19 | mmp | XorA: I actually solved few issues and found new ones; maybe I'll solve it by myself. |
| 21:12.06 | mmp | thanks:) |
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| 21:16.16 | zecke | koen: do you feel like extracting an EABI image for me? |
| 21:16.25 | zecke | koen: and offering a direct download? |
| 21:17.29 | gerwinin | zecke: will we be showing openmoko hardware ? |
| 21:18.02 | zecke | gerwinin: I think this is safe to say. Even if our phones might not arrive in time, mickeyl can bring something |
| 21:18.09 | zecke | gerwinin: oh wait, I better not talk for mickeyl ;) |
| 21:18.18 | zecke | koen: alternatively run this script http://rafb.net/p/p2oNb630.html |
| 21:18.22 | zecke | koen: and paste the results |
| 21:18.46 | gerwinin | zecke: I am writing now the pressrelease , also the nokia webpad will be shown ? |
| 21:19.03 | zecke | this is not using OE :( |
| 21:19.15 | gerwinin | zecke: okay |
| 21:19.43 | zecke | gerwinin: we can show iPAQs, nslu2, zaurus, dev board |
| 21:20.38 | gerwinin | dev board = ? |
| 21:21.17 | koen | zecke: EABI image: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/a780/ |
| 21:21.32 | zecke | oh wait I could bring a/the dreambox, and/or pxa270 development board |
| 21:22.02 | Ifaistos | efika runs angstrom (with some minor glitches) |
| 21:22.06 | zecke | koen: hehe, you got me. I wanted an elf executable ;) |
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| 21:23.19 | Ifaistos | and you can use an ATI vga + usb mouse + usb keyboard and connect it to an lcd for a "bigger" picture |
| 21:23.28 | gerwinin | Zecke: how about a oe certification programm ? |
| 21:23.53 | zecke | gerwinin: hehe, not yet. What would you certify? Enough insanity to use OE? |
| 21:24.10 | koen | zecke: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/base/elfutils_0.108-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 21:24.14 | Ifaistos | i think most us (here at least) of are "certifiable".... ;) |
| 21:24.22 | zecke | koen: I'm too lazy for ar and tar |
| 21:25.11 | koen | dpkg -x /tmp ? |
| 21:26.22 | zecke | koen: that would work, if I would have dpkg installed |
| 21:26.38 | zecke | koen: I will simply not test EABI and assume it will work :) |
| 21:32.48 | gerwinin | zecke: do you have a high resolution pic of oe logo for me ? |
| 21:33.02 | zecke | gerwinin: no, just the svg ;) |
| 21:33.18 | zecke | gerwinin: which I will have to search |
| 21:33.55 | gerwinin | zecke: making the flyers now |
| 21:34.05 | mmp | cruiseoveride: I have never done things like that, but, from what I know, there were some ipaqs equipped with Consumer IR port, so they could be used as remote controls. |
| 21:34.09 | mmp | uhh, sorry:) |
| 21:34.17 | mmp | bad window |
| 21:34.21 | gerwinin | zecke: pressrelease sent for review |
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| 21:36.05 | zecke | which address did you send it to? |
| 21:37.56 | koen | gerwinin: what about changing "OpenEmbedded" to "The OpenEmbedded Project"? |
| 21:42.17 | zecke | koen|away: ping? |
| 21:42.42 | gerwinin | Koen okay |
| 21:44.21 | mwester | zecke: http://users.dls.net/~mwester/unslung/busybox |
| 21:44.56 | zecke | thanks |
| 21:45.01 | mwester | IIRC, that should be a staticly-linked program. |
| 21:45.22 | zecke | but not EABI? |
| 21:47.29 | zecke | okay, my mini selfcontained ELF header parser http://rafb.net/p/AFDjgH20.html |
| 21:48.43 | mwester | Don't think its EABI... |
| 21:48.58 | zecke | good, that is what my parser told me :) |
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| 21:49.14 | zecke | OSVERSION 97, ABIVERSION 0, or the otherway around |
| 21:49.42 | zecke | Ifaistos: can you test the parser for efika binaries? |
| 21:49.52 | mwester | There's a useful utility called "wackelf" in the madwifi-ng source, that must be able to do some parsing as well - FYI. |
| 21:50.19 | zecke | mwester: readelf can do it too, I just wanted to handle bytes in something like python |
| 21:50.30 | Ifaistos | zecke : which parser ? |
| 21:50.45 | zecke | Ifaistos: the pastebin from above |
| 21:50.56 | zecke | Ifaistos: http://rafb.net/p/AFDjgH20.txt python download binary |
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| 21:51.26 | Ifaistos | zecke : ok |
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| 21:54.46 | zecke | Ifaistos: haha the last lines are missing ;) |
| 21:55.33 | zecke | http://rafb.net/p/NwzloD80.html |
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| 22:00.03 | zecke | koen|away: where can I put my elf hdr parser? |
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| 22:01.04 | Ifaistos | zecke : you want any file in particular ? |
| 22:01.14 | zecke | Ifaistos: ppc file |
| 22:01.24 | zecke | or an executable and a library |
| 22:01.43 | Ifaistos | ok |
| 22:04.19 | zecke | gerwinin: did you find the logo? |
| 22:04.20 | Ifaistos | zecke : http://www.pastebin.ca/362540 |
| 22:04.24 | zecke | gerwinin: and where did you mail it to? |
| 22:05.20 | gerwinin | zecke: no |
| 22:05.33 | gerwinin | Zecke: mailt it only to you, mickeyl and koen |
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| 22:06.42 | zecke | gerwinin: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/contrib/oe.svg |
| 22:06.53 | zecke | gerwinin: which email addess did you mail it to? |
| 22:06.58 | Ifaistos | zecke : ok ? need anymore cause i am leaving in a couple of minuts |
| 22:07.38 | gerwinin | zecke : to your gmx address |
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| 22:07.59 | zecke | Ifaistos: I hate pastebin.ca :) |
| 22:08.25 | zecke | Ifaistos: thanks, have a good night |
| 22:08.44 | Ifaistos | zecke : you want them in rafb ? |
| 22:09.09 | zecke | Ifaistos: on third reload it actually worked :) |
| 22:09.26 | zecke | Ifaistos: at least machine and endianes was detected properly |
| 22:09.47 | hillct | when a recipie includes 'inherit update-rc.d', do I then need to call update-rc.d from postinit and prerm or is it handled automatically? |
| 22:10.20 | Ifaistos | zecke : do you want me to send you some files to have localy for the tests ? |
| 22:10.38 | zecke | Ifaistos: no, I'm fine for now :) |
| 22:11.11 | zecke | hillct: that is handled automatically, you can/should specify the number and the runlevels |
| 22:11.29 | zecke | hillct: check the update-rc bbclass |
| 22:11.43 | hillct | K |
| 22:12.18 | zecke | hillct: it has some weird syntax I can never remember ;) |
| 22:12.22 | hillct | I was working from the example of the cron package which calls update-rc.d in preinit and postrm, but it seems that generates warnings about duplication |
| 22:12.56 | hillct | is the automation of that behavior a recent change? |
| 22:13.26 | zecke | hillct: we have always been lazy, so it is around for almost forever |
| 22:14.11 | Ifaistos | night everyone |
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| 22:16.29 | hillct | laziness is a virtue |
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| 22:20.45 | hillct | zecke: yeah, it appears to be fully automated. Guess it's just the cron recipie that's broken |
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| 22:34.34 | zecke | gerwinin: the mail did not arrive, but I hope you found/can use the svg |
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| 23:08.14 | JoseJX | dma`: Don't bother. I've already done the whole driver. Someone else is currently writing a driver from the specs. |
| 23:09.00 | dma` | Ah good. I take it you just did a clean room operation. |
| 23:09.04 | JoseJX | dma`: Yep |
| 23:09.11 | JoseJX | dma`: I have not written any code |
| 23:09.17 | JoseJX | dma`: But I wrote the specs :) |
| 23:09.25 | JoseJX | Chinese wall :p |
| 23:09.38 | JoseJX | The guy writing the driver is making good progress. |
| 23:09.39 | dma` | Yeah I noticed http://josejx.net/collie/index.php?wiki=FrontPage |
| 23:09.55 | JoseJX | He's got it initializing and detecting cards\ |
| 23:10.04 | JoseJX | The IRQs work properly, etc. |
| 23:10.12 | JoseJX | Just a bit more for TX/RX and it should be working |
| 23:10.27 | JoseJX | I've been prodding him to release the code, but he doesn't want to yet :p |
| 23:11.33 | dma` | Well who needs TX/RX anyway... |
| 23:11.38 | JoseJX | :p |
| 23:12.08 | dma` | looks like there's code for CRC and detection of the presence of a card too |
| 23:12.28 | dma` | I just threw it into IDA for fun. |
| 23:12.49 | JoseJX | Yeah. Like I said, I have the whole thing translated already |
| 23:13.00 | JoseJX | I hand translated to C |
| 23:13.29 | JoseJX | The hardware specific stuff is in the wiki |
| 23:13.43 | JoseJX | Everything else should already be handled by the mmc stack in the kernel |
| 23:13.53 | dma` | Yeah it's far more complex than I expected. |
| 23:14.06 | JoseJX | It's really not |
| 23:14.22 | JoseJX | The driver itself is pretty bad though |
| 23:14.27 | JoseJX | Lots of globals |
| 23:14.35 | JoseJX | Lots of long sleeps :p |
| 23:15.42 | dma` | Well the sharp one is pretty complex. |
| 23:16.29 | dma` | Are you talking about the montavista one? |
| 23:16.53 | JoseJX | No, the sharp one is what I'm talking about |
| 23:16.58 | zecke | mickey|dinner: thanks for the struct hint, writing the parser with it took only a couple of minutes :) |
| 23:16.59 | JoseJX | I didn't think it was that complex to be honest. |
| 23:17.28 | zecke | dma`: any reason you prefered ida over objdump? |
| 23:17.28 | dma` | Well it actually doesn't look complex at all. Just quite a few lines of code. |
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| 23:17.38 | dma` | zecke: I just had it lying around. |
| 23:17.50 | CIA-20 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r1d0feb92... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): |
| 23:17.51 | CIA-20 | classes/insane.bbclass: Add a small elf reader and check ABI,ARCH and Endian |
| 23:17.51 | CIA-20 | Add a small ELF parser and read OSABI, ABIVERSION, ENDIAN and MACHINE. This |
| 23:17.51 | CIA-20 | code compares TARGET_OS and TARGET_ARCH to a list of known versions. Currently |
| 23:17.51 | CIA-20 | we have values for linux and linux-uclibc for arm, armeb and powerpc. mips, |
| 23:17.51 | CIA-20 | i386, amd64, ia64 are missing. ABI wise ARM EABI is missing as well, but koen |
| 23:17.55 | CIA-20 | is likely to enter the values into the documented dict |
| 23:17.57 | CIA-20 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rd92fd0f1... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): classes/insane.bbclass: Be less verbose |
| 23:18.56 | zecke | NAiL: written in python ;) |
| 23:19.05 | dma` | Uh isn't there a library for that? |
| 23:19.15 | zecke | ELF is a lovely format, it seems, but I only parse the well defined headers |
| 23:19.45 | zecke | good night, I have to charge my macbook now |
| 23:19.48 | NAbyss_ | zecke: It's hard to find the authoritative source of ABIs etc.. had to write an ELF/DWARF parser for one of my recent contracts.. slightly painful |
| 23:19.51 | NAbyss_ | Seeyas |
| 23:20.28 | zecke | looks like sco and binutils are authoritive |
| 23:20.54 | zecke | later |
| 23:22.30 | dma` | hmm never even noticed linux/drivers/mmc/mmc.c actually. |
| 23:25.40 | NAiL | heh |
| 23:28.06 | dma` | so it's just a matter of writing a few functions and pointing to a few of them in mmc_host_ops and platform_driver structures. |
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| 23:32.09 | mmp | good night:) |
| 23:32.30 | JoseJX | dma`: Yeah, pretty much. |
| 23:32.49 | JoseJX | dma`: Like I said, he's got it mostly working already, just a bit more to do |
| 23:33.24 | tkp | with oe, is it possible to depend on a specific version of a package? |
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