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| 00:04.52 | trem | nite all, sweet dreams |
| 00:17.23 | Laibsch | mickey|zzZZzz: Were you referring to me? |
| 00:17.52 | Laibsch | I did not understand that comment. |
| 00:18.10 | Laibsch | brb (need to log out for a sec) |
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| 04:37.53 | CIA-20 | 03Tom 07org.oe.dev * r6f55241b... 10/ (1 packages/libxml/libxml2-native_2.6.26.bb): libxml: update libxml2-native to 2.6.26. Closes 1837. Thanks. |
| 04:37.59 | CIA-20 | 03Tom 07org.oe.dev * rff4a9eec... 10/ (1 packages/libxslt/libxslt-native_1.1.17.bb): libxslt: add native package. Closes 1839. |
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| 07:35.25 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc7b1f1c0... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane-srcdates: bump srcdate for EDS-dbus at Ross' recommendation |
| 07:35.25 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0d6f4236... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-pim/openmoko-dates_svn.bb): openmoko-dates: catch up with eds and autotools changes |
| 07:35.25 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0c0838b4... 10/ (9 files in 3 dirs): linux-gta01: update to 2.6.20 |
| 07:39.16 | hrw | morning |
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| 07:40.30 | koen | hrw: good morning |
| 07:41.49 | hrw | koen: ross bumped esd-dbus in poky yesterday |
| 07:42.09 | koen | [08:34] CIA-20: koen org.oe.dev * rc7b1f1c0... / (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane-srcdates: bump srcdate for EDS-dbus at Ross' recommendation |
| 07:42.12 | koen | like that ? |
| 07:42.16 | hrw | probably |
| 07:42.27 | hrw | koen: poky has also granulated eds packaging |
| 07:42.57 | hrw | I need to run poky build |
| 07:43.04 | koen | hrw: heh |
| 07:43.13 | hrw | ~lart amd64 for not working with 3 dimms |
| 07:43.20 | koen | hrw: poky got the granulated packaging for OE, which I did :) |
| 07:43.45 | Laibsch | good morning guys. |
| 07:44.08 | hrw | koen: iirc guys manipulated it last days |
| 07:44.10 | hrw | Laibsch: hi |
| 07:49.11 | koen | hrw: I had a good laugh yesterday reading OESF |
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| 07:49.26 | koen | hrw: pdaX wants more devels, but not more than 3 |
| 07:49.31 | hrw | ;DD |
| 07:49.42 | hrw | looks like time to look there |
| 07:49.50 | koen | "sorry, all our dev spots are taken now, please get lost" |
| 07:50.01 | koen | (if you read between the lines) |
| 07:51.56 | hrw | remember thread? |
| 07:52.43 | koen | hrw: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23242&view=findpost&p=154184 |
| 07:54.55 | hrw | thx |
| 08:05.57 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r85ec50cc... 10/ (1 packages/eds/eds-dbus_svn.bb): eds-dbus: sync packaging with poky |
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| 08:10.37 | hrw | zecke: morning |
| 08:10.46 | hrw | koen: so more changes for eds? |
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| 08:16.14 | Laibsch | How come that I can build task-base, but when I build opie-image, all of the sudden not all dependencies are satisfied: http://rafb.net/p/I4wOB238.html |
| 08:21.40 | hrw | Laibsch: avoid bitbake shell? |
| 08:21.55 | Laibsch | if that helps, OK |
| 08:22.04 | Laibsch | Do you think this might have caused it? |
| 08:24.58 | hrw | I had problem with it |
| 08:28.43 | zecke | hrw: we need to release bitbake-1.6.6 (now) |
| 08:29.36 | hrw | zecke: noticed. |
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| 08:33.47 | koen | zecke: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/view/scm/6/ doesn't seem to get updated anymore |
| 08:34.06 | koen | zecke: neither does http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/view/scm/3/ |
| 08:34.12 | zecke | hmm |
| 08:34.16 | hrw | fsck.. second hang today.. |
| 08:34.19 | koen | broken cron? |
| 08:36.07 | zecke | security update, be back later |
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| 08:41.40 | hrw | shit. dns failed |
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| 08:44.29 | Ifaistos | greetings ! |
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| 09:21.24 | hrw | re |
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| 09:27.27 | ade|desk | howdy y'all |
| 09:32.37 | hrw | cu |
| 09:32.48 | hrw | time to test memory |
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| 09:40.31 | gremlin[it] | hi all ... |
| 09:41.04 | gremlin[it] | i have completelly off-topic question ... how i can print the fosdem grid ??? |
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| 09:42.54 | gremlin[it] | hi psokolovsky_ |
| 09:44.10 | psokolovsky__ | gremlin[it], Hi! So, your bug was fixed, just do new build. |
| 09:44.36 | gremlin[it] | ok il'' do this evening ... !!! |
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| 09:50.26 | florian | good morning |
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| 10:08.24 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r069cb75c... 10/ (1 site/arm-linux): site/arm-linux: remove forced unwind, glibc/oabi doesn't like it |
| 10:08.38 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r80417389... 10/ (11 files in 4 dirs): s3c2410 utils: merge from openmoko svn |
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| 10:27.24 | zecke | http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/view/rev/24536/ that is clueless^3 |
| 10:28.34 | zecke | http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/diff.psp?id1=762759b3b4d3a2e666f5c0ac9446fabdc7617929&id2=0a027f255ab4229460aa779443c611039530e4b3&fname=packages/linux/linux_2.6.20.bb |
| 10:28.42 | zecke | IMAGE_TYPE = "bzImage" |
| 10:28.49 | zecke | IMAGE_TYPE_simpad = "bzImage" |
| 10:28.52 | hrw | zecke: I have fix for it |
| 10:28.59 | hrw | had problem to push it yesterday |
| 10:29.36 | hrw | looks like today monotone.oe.org is still too busy for me |
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| 10:32.27 | zecke | koen|away: how do I see who comitted this? |
| 10:33.35 | hrw | zecke: it was me and bzImage was mistake |
| 10:33.44 | hrw | fixed soon after |
| 10:33.58 | zecke | hrw: did you look at the mq200 patch |
| 10:34.21 | zecke | hrw: only 10% of these patch are mq200 stuff, the other stuff should not be part of this file... |
| 10:34.32 | hrw | zecke: nope |
| 10:35.12 | zecke | http://rafb.net/p/fXcDlA16.html |
| 10:35.26 | zecke | am I the only one who thinks *~ files should not be part of patches? |
| 10:35.44 | CIA-20 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r760aa490... 10/ (13 files in 6 dirs): |
| 10:35.44 | CIA-20 | lighttpd: lot of bugfixes |
| 10:35.44 | CIA-20 | - forced PCRE detection so it is linked in |
| 10:35.44 | CIA-20 | - cleaned directory structure |
| 10:35.44 | CIA-20 | - added /www/ dirs needed |
| 10:35.45 | CIA-20 | - added empty homepage |
| 10:35.47 | CIA-20 | - fixed initscript |
| 10:35.49 | zecke | we are not mvista |
| 10:35.54 | hrw | cleaned |
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| 10:37.07 | zecke | mr_nice == bernhard? |
| 10:38.13 | zecke | his switches driver could have 37 lines less without sacrifcing readability :) |
| 10:38.40 | zecke | if ( key == 0 ) reportKey0(); else if( key == 1 ) reportKey1() else if ... screams for an array of keys :) |
| 10:42.39 | hrw | zecke: atleast someone tries to get 2.6 on simpad again |
| 10:43.44 | hrw | pushed fixes |
| 10:43.44 | zecke | hehe, I appreciate that. this is why I who bernhard is to give comments |
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| 11:16.40 | CIA-20 | 03zecke123 07bitbake-1.6 * r759 10/ (ChangeLog MANIFEST): Add more files to our MANIFEST. It looks complete enoug now |
| 11:18.35 | hrw | zecke: ah.. I never touched MANIFEST file.. |
| 11:18.44 | zecke | ;) I know |
| 11:18.56 | zecke | another leasson learned |
| 11:23.02 | hrw | 'learnt' |
| 11:23.44 | ade|desk | learned, learnt is not really english |
| 11:24.01 | hrw | fscking inglish grammar |
| 11:24.35 | ade|desk | its like spelt and spelled |
| 11:24.54 | ade|desk | its in common use but is really english |
| 11:25.13 | ade|desk | grr missing " ' " in its |
| 11:25.20 | ade|desk | it's == it is |
| 11:25.32 | ade|desk | its == belongs too |
| 11:25.36 | ade|desk | grr to |
| 11:25.39 | ade|desk | even |
| 11:25.58 | Paperface | hehe |
| 11:26.04 | Paperface | dontcha love the english language |
| 11:26.10 | Paperface | I made a word up the other day |
| 11:26.23 | Paperface | in the vain of employee/employer |
| 11:26.32 | Paperface | I assumed there was a word insuree |
| 11:26.36 | Paperface | but there isn't |
| 11:26.42 | ade|desk | i like meld, no such word, it is weld and melt together |
| 11:27.31 | ade|desk | irregardless is another made up word |
| 11:27.36 | Paperface | hehe |
| 11:27.51 | Paperface | where you from ade|desk ? |
| 11:27.57 | ade|desk | regardless, ok , irrespective is ok too |
| 11:28.09 | ade|desk | UK |
| 11:28.18 | Paperface | whereabouts? |
| 11:28.30 | ade|desk | i live 20 miles north of cambs |
| 11:28.44 | ade|desk | work 25 miles north of that |
| 11:29.03 | Paperface | huntingdon? |
| 11:29.24 | ade|desk | live near ely, work in king's lynn |
| 11:29.35 | ade|desk | you? |
| 11:31.04 | Paperface | live in norwich, work in norwich ;) |
| 11:31.31 | Paperface | know ely/cambridge quite well as I went to uni in Cambridge |
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| 11:35.16 | ade|desk | i like norwich, always do christmas shopping there |
| 11:35.24 | Paperface | yeh, it is pretty nice |
| 11:35.53 | ade|desk | and there is a maplins there too |
| 11:37.09 | rwhitby | FYI: bitbake git fetcher uses a '-n' switch which is not available on the git version shipped with RHEL and CentOS. |
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| 11:41.03 | CIA-20 | 03zecke123 * r760 10/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Another try: Release BitBake 1.6.6 with updated MANIFEST |
| 11:48.38 | koen | zecke: mtn automate certs <rev> iirc |
| 11:51.26 | koen | now I'm finally allowed to use FFT in assignments :) |
| 11:54.10 | CIA-20 | 03zecke123 * r761 10bitbake/MANIFEST: trunk/bitbake: Update the MANIFEST as well |
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| 11:59.39 | Ifaistos | could someone have a look at this -> http://www.pastebin.ca/358780 |
| 12:00.19 | Ifaistos | when doing bitbake glibc and although glibc 2.5 is defined it say it can not find it and tries 2.3 |
| 12:00.54 | Ifaistos | but when trying to clear it with bitbake glibc -c clean it tries to clean the 2.5 .... |
| 12:00.57 | koen | missing PREFERRED_PROVIDER? |
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| 12:01.12 | zecke | 1.6.6 of BitBake released |
| 12:02.11 | Ifaistos | koen : shouldn't in both case try to build and clean the same version ? |
| 12:02.22 | koen | I think it should |
| 12:03.13 | Ifaistos | zecke : do you think this is a bitbake issue ? |
| 12:04.26 | zecke | Ifaistos: no |
| 12:05.00 | zecke | do you use icecream? glibc might deserve a PARALLEL_MAKE="" |
| 12:06.52 | Ifaistos | zecke : no its on a single amd64 |
| 12:07.10 | Ifaistos | zecke : it does not use icecc |
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| 12:15.49 | zecke | koen: could you please add kuhlen's key? he is one sith folks sitting next to me and will do random bugfixing and testing |
| 12:16.27 | koen | zecke: I would if he had sent mickeyl and me his key |
| 12:17.25 | zecke | koen: he is about to send it to you, I ruled out mickeyl as he seems to be asleep |
| 12:17.52 | zecke | koen: he is probably checking your GnuPG key atm |
| 12:18.24 | koen | zecke: sending it to both of is a backup :) |
| 12:18.39 | koen | and it makes sure mickeyl and I know who has access |
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| 12:32.15 | gremlin[it] | hi all ... where i can find info about ipaq h63xx (h6340 exactly) ... i can buy one for 250Euo ... is a value price ? |
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| 12:42.09 | zecke | koen: bonsai stopped updating due a change of the mtn db |
| 12:43.01 | koen | zecke: even the svn ones? |
| 12:43.47 | koen | zecke: use a versioned binary |
| 12:43.52 | koen | e.g. /usr/bin/mtn-0.32 |
| 12:44.30 | zecke | will do the upgrade and then use a versioned binary |
| 12:44.49 | zecke | the svn ones are broken due a broken pysvn, but I will take a deeper look now |
| 12:46.29 | koen | drat |
| 12:46.44 | koen | zecke: sorry, I typo'd in a kill command |
| 12:47.15 | zecke | lol |
| 12:47.19 | zecke | again? |
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| 12:48.31 | koen | no |
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| 12:51.34 | PsychoChicken | what version of monotone was used to create OE.mtn? |
| 12:52.28 | koen | 0.32 |
| 12:52.36 | koen | as the GettingStarted wiki says |
| 12:53.14 | CIA-20 | 03Bernhard 07org.oe.dev * re6225ed3... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): simpad: move USE_DEVFS to simpad-2.4 include |
| 12:53.18 | CIA-20 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb5dacbd6... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux/simpad: cleaned mq200 patch from backup files, defconfigs - spotted by Zecke |
| 12:53.24 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r471af30b... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): eds stuff: bump PR to notice new EDS packaging |
| 12:53.28 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r63b307f0... 10/ (1 packages/eds/eds-dbus_svn.bb): eds-dbus: bump PR as well |
| 12:53.31 | RP | morning all |
| 12:53.33 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r487c97d1... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc_2.5.bb): glibc: add a workaround for some strange shlib renaming problems, needs a proper fix |
| 12:54.43 | hrw | hi RP |
| 12:54.47 | gremlin[it] | hi RP |
| 12:54.52 | koen | hey RP |
| 12:55.33 | koen | RP: I'm a bit lost why glibc needs that PACKAGE_DYNAMIC |
| 12:56.27 | RP | koen: What happens without it? |
| 12:57.22 | CM | zecke: I can't compile bitbake, but I guess I've screwed up somehow: http://rafb.net/p/EvK2z372.html |
| 12:57.52 | CM | Other python programs install fine |
| 12:57.56 | koen | RP: RDEPENDS = "libc6-dev" doesn't work |
| 12:58.23 | RP | koen: Right, thats expected. You want glibc-dev |
| 12:58.23 | hrw | koen: RDEPENDS = glibc-dev? |
| 12:58.40 | koen | last time I tried that, that didn't work as well |
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| 12:59.23 | RP | koen: It should work. If not, I need to see the error |
| 12:59.41 | RP | CM: Looks like you have a previous bitbake installed you need to uninstall first? |
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| 13:11.31 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 13:14.07 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r50793489... 10/ (1 packages/eds/eds-dbus_svn.bb): eds-dbus: rework packaging a bit to make it go from "not too broken" to "doesn't make ipkg freak out" |
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| 13:23.27 | zecke | CM: use 1.6.6 |
| 13:24.28 | woglinde | he zecke :( |
| 13:25.48 | zecke | woglinde: yeah, I messed up the release :) |
| 13:27.06 | woglinde | zecke yeah I saw |
| 13:27.15 | woglinde | and I sucked in the exam |
| 13:27.20 | zecke | :( |
| 13:29.42 | koen | zecke: I added the mtn key you requested |
| 13:33.29 | zecke | thanks a lot |
| 13:38.41 | CM | zecke: That is is 1.6.6 :/ |
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| 13:40.44 | zecke | CM: no it is not |
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| 13:43.06 | hrw | koen: your router has pci swappable cards? |
| 13:43.09 | CM | zecke: Ah, maybe I was too quick to download it from berlios or so. I'll re-fetch it |
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| 13:47.47 | hrw | cu |
| 13:49.15 | CM | zecke: I was in the untared 1.6.6 dir, but I still had 1.6.4 installed. Now I get almost the same error, but with PIL instead of bb: http://rafb.net/p/pxyNIZ25.html |
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| 13:51.29 | zecke | CM: never heard of PIL |
| 13:51.29 | xumbi8 | no matter how I set IMAGE_FSTYPES in my local.conf I still get ext2.gz, jffs2, and rootfs.tar.gz files in tmp/deploy/images, am I missing something? |
| 13:52.00 | NAbyss_ | xumbi8: Is it set anywhere else? |
| 13:52.28 | xumbi8 | NAbyss: let me see... |
| 13:52.36 | zecke | CM: this must be a local issue. In contrast to 1.6.4, I did not just package it, but tested the execution |
| 13:52.41 | CM | zecke: Me neither, but that's what I get running setup. I don't have any "site-packages" folder either. I guess gentoo is messing it up somehow. I'll see if I can figure it out |
| 13:53.14 | zecke | would be appreciated, python -vvv setup.py can help |
| 13:53.24 | CM | I'll try that |
| 13:53.34 | CM | 1.6.4 installed fine this morning |
| 13:53.40 | xumbi8 | NAbyss: I checked task-base.bb, and my machine .conf file, where else could it be set? |
| 13:53.57 | CM | The only thing I've done since that is to run rwithbys moko makefile |
| 13:54.32 | xumbi8 | NAbyss: whoops, I just answered my own question, I found it set in distro/generic.conf |
| 13:54.41 | xumbi8 | NAbyss: thanks though |
| 13:56.50 | NAbyss_ | xumbi8: np :) grep is usually your friend in cases like that.. there's quite a few places things can be set |
| 13:57.26 | xumbi8 | NAbyss: definitely, I don't know why it didn't occur to me to look elsewhere |
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| 14:09.24 | cbrake | xumbi8: consider the order of conf files in conf/bitbake.conf |
| 14:10.39 | cbrake | xumbi8: it seems like IMAGE_FSTYPES should be set with ?= in distro.conf so we can override it in local.conf. |
| 14:11.42 | xumbi8 | cbrake: hello Cliff, yes that would make more sense |
| 14:11.53 | xumbi8 | cbrake: thanks for the tip on bitbake.conf |
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| 14:16.52 | koen_ | mickeyl: good morning! |
| 14:17.07 | mickeyl | cheers |
| 14:20.42 | CIA-20 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rb866b827... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): |
| 14:20.42 | CIA-20 | Add the DNARD/Shark machine configuration and kernel |
| 14:20.42 | CIA-20 | The DNARD/Shark was the Network Computer constructed |
| 14:20.42 | CIA-20 | by DEC with spare StrongARM processors. Here we use them |
| 14:20.42 | CIA-20 | as music basestations. |
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| 14:28.44 | CM | zecke: Thanks, found the problem. I had old files from 1.6.4 in /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/bb/ messing up the import bb stuff because it looked there first. |
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| 14:43.44 | schurig | zecke: Hallo ! |
| 14:43.59 | schurig | mickeyl: Hallo 2u2! |
| 14:44.38 | psokolovsky_ | schurig: Hi! Wanted to catch you for some time and ask what's the state of mnci machine in OE.dev? |
| 14:45.01 | schurig | psokolovsky_: "Neglected" would be a good name :-) |
| 14:45.10 | zecke | schurig: hi holger |
| 14:45.31 | schurig | psokolovsky_: I once used OE to build the image and SDK for the MNCI-RX, but I didn't continue this |
| 14:45.44 | schurig | psokolovsky_: Our customers still use the old SDK for their work |
| 14:46.03 | psokolovsky_ | schurig, well, would you like to update/maintain it? because I'd like to cleanup at least opie's machine deps, and mnci os one which has adhoc scripts. |
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| 14:46.18 | schurig | psokolovsky_: MNCI also runs still Kernel 2.4, another device of us is here newer, it runs with 2.6 (but for this device there is no SDK, just a CD with the GPL code) |
| 14:46.51 | schurig | psokolovsky_: feel free to kill MNCI our of Opie. It turned out that no one really needed Opie on MNCI. I just used it for a short time as a demo. |
| 14:47.21 | schurig | psokolovsky_: later we wrote our own demo for Logistics stuff, in Qt3/Embedded, then I never used Opie as long as it stayed Qt2/Embedded (not sure about it's current state) |
| 14:47.38 | psokolovsky_ | schurig, ok, thanks. I won't "kill" it, but will make as much of opie packages as possibel mach-independent. mnci config will be left for reference. |
| 14:47.47 | schurig | psokolovsky_: we and customers need Qt's SQL stuff with an sqlite database, so Qt2 and therefore Opie was no option |
| 14:47.48 | psokolovsky_ | ok, thanks! |
| 14:48.54 | schurig | psokolovsky_: Is Opie now Qt3 or Qt4 ? |
| 14:49.22 | psokolovsky_ | schurig, old good opie1 is still on qte2. |
| 14:49.36 | psokolovsky_ | schurig, there're opieII in works, on qte4 |
| 14:49.58 | psokolovsky_ | I kinda maintain old good opie1 in OE ;-) |
| 14:50.02 | schurig | psokolovsky_: sound's better, althought I've never adapted Qte4 to MNCI or RT4000 |
| 14:50.10 | zecke | psokolovsky_: did lorn ever lay out what he plans for OpieII? |
| 14:50.44 | schurig | zecke: did TT ever lay out their plans with XYZ? |
| 14:50.54 | koen_ | zecke: does the shark really need a new kernel? |
| 14:51.03 | koen_ | zecke: couldn't it be added to linux_2.6.20? |
| 14:51.05 | psokolovsky_ | zecke, I didn't hear anything since initial qtopia4 gpl release was made. I know some folks build it, but I'm still waiting while it is added to OE ;-) |
| 14:51.09 | zecke | schurig: yes, WCE in 2008 |
| 14:51.33 | schurig | zecke: Wow, that would be interesting. We would instantly buy a license :-) |
| 14:51.39 | zecke | koen_: yes, sadly the network driver needs a bad hack which will never be in mainline (I could extract that hack) |
| 14:51.52 | zecke | schurig: I ported a Qt2/Qt3 subset to Windows Mobile last month ;) |
| 14:52.01 | koen_ | zecke: SRC_URI_shark += "file://nethack.patch"? |
| 14:52.07 | schurig | zecke: if "WCE" is QtX-on-Windows-CE-dotNet-whatever-it's-currently-called |
| 14:52.40 | schurig | zecke: yeah, but that would then be GPL by definition? |
| 14:53.08 | zecke | schurig: yes, at TT DevDays they said Windows CE port will be released in 2008 and they just started with it (November 2006) |
| 14:53.29 | schurig | zecke: re-started maybe. I once saw Qt on CE. Some years ago. |
| 14:53.34 | zecke | schurig: I started with KWQ from Apple which is BSD (even if it contains verbatim copies of Qt... bad apple Inc) |
| 14:53.46 | zecke | schurig: check for Q_OS_TEMP in you win32 copy of Qt |
| 14:54.15 | zecke | koen_: I will consider just extracting this evil hack for the network driver |
| 14:54.17 | schurig | zecke: Hu? Apple made a GPL/proprietary thing BSD-licensed? |
| 14:54.59 | zecke | schurig: Off Topic here: They created WebKit. Extracted the SubSet of Qt used by KHTML, called their Qt KWQ and licensed it under a BSD license |
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| 14:55.31 | mr_nice | hi all |
| 14:55.39 | zecke | schurig: somehow this code contains copies of functions that look 1:1 as the one in the original Qt. Well I started with that KWQ and created QWidget/QApplication.. stuff for Windows Mobile |
| 14:57.39 | mr_nice | zecke: hi, do you have some time for me? |
| 14:58.31 | zecke | little, caught a cold and try to catch up with the neglected things |
| 15:00.16 | mr_nice | zecke: ah, ok. just one little thing. what was the reason for taking the 2.6 driver for the mq200 from uclinux and not trying to port the old 2.4 one? |
| 15:00.45 | zecke | licensing |
| 15:01.03 | zecke | the 2.4er one is illegal, it is property of NVidia Corporation |
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| 15:01.15 | mr_nice | zecke: ah, ok |
| 15:03.40 | mr_nice | zecke: do you know if it is illegal to use the mq200 manual to write a driver? |
| 15:04.18 | zecke | mr_nice: back then I believed that, but as google can find the manual nowadays I doubt there are any tradesecrets left... |
| 15:04.54 | zecke | mr_nice: this is why I used the uclibc skeleton + memory dumps |
| 15:05.21 | mr_nice | zecke: so you think I don't get into trouble if I will use the manual? |
| 15:06.11 | zecke | mr_nice: If I would have time, I would use this manual |
| 15:06.21 | mr_nice | zecke: ok |
| 15:06.49 | zecke | mr_nice: just document where you have downloaded the manual from |
| 15:07.08 | mr_nice | zecke: yes good idea |
| 15:08.56 | xumbi8 | does anyone know of a howto or a walkthrough of creating a bitbake recipe? |
| 15:09.18 | xumbi8 | I've found plenty of references, but nothing step-by-step |
| 15:09.24 | mccarthy | is it easy to specify a *revision* from svn rather than a SRCDATE? |
| 15:10.08 | zecke | xumbi8: did you check the manual? |
| 15:10.15 | zecke | mccarthy: sure? |
| 15:10.26 | zecke | hrw|gone: did you update the manual after changing the svn fetcher? |
| 15:10.52 | mccarthy | zecke, google couldn't find it for me ... is there a good example around? |
| 15:11.06 | zecke | mccarthy: as easy as adding ;rev=123 |
| 15:11.28 | xumbi8 | zecke: yes but I was looking for something "higher level" if possible |
| 15:11.55 | xumbi8 | zecke: I find looking at existing .bb files more helpful than reading the bitbake manual, so far |
| 15:12.43 | cbrake | xumbi8: conf/documentation.conf is also fairly useful. |
| 15:13.30 | xumbi8 | cbrake: ah cool, I will check that out |
| 15:13.36 | zecke | xumbi8: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=commonuse_new_package like this? help us to create it |
| 15:14.17 | zecke | xumbi8: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=recipes_examples is that not useful? a hint on why it is not helpful would be nice |
| 15:14.22 | xumbi8 | zecke: but that page just says "This section is a stub, help us by expanding it" |
| 15:14.50 | zecke | xumbi8: yes, so help us? the other link is not a stub |
| 15:15.00 | xumbi8 | zecke: sorry, gotcha |
| 15:15.21 | xumbi8 | zecke: as I make progress I will see if I can add to that page |
| 15:17.39 | hrw | re |
| 15:18.03 | hrw | zecke: forgot... |
| 15:18.15 | hrw | mccarthy: packages/tremor/ are good example |
| 15:20.33 | mccarthy | hrw, zecke thanks |
| 15:23.53 | mr_nice | hrw: thx for adding the patches :). I have uploaded the new patchfile to bugzilla |
| 15:24.20 | koen_ | mccarthy: about gpesyncd: libeventdb api changed in svn, so we need a gpesyncd in OE that works against the released versions of libeventdb, libtododb, etc |
| 15:24.48 | mccarthy | koen_, I spoke with neal about that yesterday in #gpe |
| 15:25.13 | hrw | koen_: your device need firmware for sound? |
| 15:25.34 | koen | hrw: yes |
| 15:25.42 | koen | pvr150, hardware mpeg2 tuner |
| 15:25.53 | mccarthy | koen_, he said that he would get on it today (I modified a local copy of gpesyncd so that it compile, but the intended error handling is probably broken since I made no effort to actually make it work) |
| 15:26.15 | koen | ironically I bought a pvr150 because my bt848 had a broken audio chip since last week |
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| 15:41.27 | cbrake | what do people typically do with the graphviz *.dot files generated by bitbake? Is there a graphical format that is useful, or do you typically just look at the dot files? |
| 15:42.24 | cbrake | also, are there any tools that will generate a run-time dependency tree for ipk packages? |
| 15:46.33 | zecke | is mtn.oe.org stuck somewhere? |
| 15:47.01 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 15:47.05 | mickeyl | we have a load of 5 |
| 15:47.12 | mickeyl | guess it's mtn server restart time |
| 15:47.13 | mickeyl | or something |
| 15:47.27 | zecke | hmm, I regenerate rosters on serenity... |
| 15:47.33 | mickeyl | oh uh |
| 15:47.35 | mickeyl | that's it |
| 15:48.12 | zecke | don't we have two cpu's in serenity? |
| 15:48.33 | mickeyl | don't think so |
| 15:49.21 | zecke | I think I'm guilty for the load |
| 15:49.33 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:49.57 | zecke | man nice |
| 15:50.03 | zecke | for the next time |
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| 15:53.16 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * raa2c7cca... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): libftdu: add libftdi from openmoko svn |
| 15:53.22 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r13f5cb98... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): openocd: merge openocd from openmoko svn |
| 15:53.27 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9f203ec0... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): netbase: merge in fic-gta01 bits from openmoko svn |
| 15:53.33 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1c587b28... 10/ (1 packages/lm_sensors/lmsensors-apps_2.10.1.bb): lmsensors: merge in changes from openmoko svn |
| 15:53.40 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9ad1a49a... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): base-files: merge in fic-gta01 and qt2410 files from openmoko svn |
| 15:53.43 | zecke | koen does not scream yet |
| 15:53.46 | CIA-20 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * ra8bf0677... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): |
| 15:53.46 | CIA-20 | classes/insane.bbclass: Grep through config.log to check for CROSS Compile errors |
| 15:53.46 | CIA-20 | -Inspired by doku's work on mpd's buildsystem grep through |
| 15:53.46 | CIA-20 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.46 | CIA-20 | -Make errors fatal so we will notice these things more quickly. |
| 15:54.42 | natezg | Can OE do a canadian cross and build my toolchain for cygwin? |
| 15:54.56 | RP | cbrake: Typically I read the dot files. If you find a good viewer let me know :) |
| 15:55.12 | zecke | RP: if you have OSX I know one |
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| 15:55.40 | zecke | RP: you should mallum to get you a mac |
| 15:55.47 | zecke | you should ask... wow I'm tired |
| 15:57.05 | RP | zecke: I don't think that a dot visualiser will be quite enough to convince him ;-) |
| 15:57.51 | zecke | you could run two instances of the dot visualiser (wow today I forget more verbs than ....)? |
| 15:58.34 | RP | zecke: That would make all the difference :) |
| 15:59.10 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 15:59.17 | mickeyl | shall i get a MacPro or a MacBookPro? |
| 15:59.28 | zecke | mickeyl: desktop or laptop? |
| 15:59.35 | zecke | get flithy rich and buy both |
| 15:59.36 | mickeyl | that's the question |
| 15:59.38 | mickeyl | hah |
| 15:59.42 | mickeyl | not with my current salary |
| 15:59.50 | zecke | i know... |
| 16:00.06 | zecke | forget about this OpenSource crap and get flithy rich :) |
| 16:00.24 | zecke | mickeyl: I think your IBM will last another year or two (it is not as sexy though) |
| 16:00.33 | natezg | emphasis on filthy |
| 16:00.51 | zecke | mickeyl: so get a MacPro, it should make a good replacement for your dual xeon |
| 16:00.55 | mickeyl | zecke: yeah. i'm really satisfied with the thinkpad |
| 16:01.00 | mickeyl | zecke: i guess i will do that |
| 16:01.09 | zecke | excellent |
| 16:01.19 | mickeyl | you think i'll have more performance even through the parallels overhead? |
| 16:01.28 | natezg | I never use my laptop, can't type on it's nastly little keyboard |
| 16:02.19 | zecke | mickeyl: should be okay |
| 16:02.25 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 16:02.50 | RP | I must admit my thinkpad does its job well... |
| 16:03.04 | zecke | koen: I want to make insanity the default (insane.bbclass) soon |
| 16:03.11 | zecke | RP: you have a r60? |
| 16:03.22 | RP | zecke: z60m |
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| 16:03.36 | koen | zecke: don't do bb.fatal on .so files being in the main package |
| 16:03.54 | koen | zecke: think about plugin based things like perl, gnome-vfs, gtk, etc |
| 16:03.55 | zecke | koen: it is only okay for plugins |
| 16:04.04 | RP | zecke: There are some issues with, we had to disable it for a handful of packages in poky |
| 16:05.06 | koen | zecke: but yes, insane should be the default |
| 16:05.06 | zecke | RP: I want to see the issues now |
| 16:05.12 | RP | zecke: Grep a poky checkout for INSANE_SKIP_ |
| 16:05.41 | zecke | RP: hehe, will do |
| 16:06.18 | RP | zecke: Looks like gcc, bg and elfutils are broken at least |
| 16:06.46 | zecke | RP: I like unsound incomplete tools, SKIPPING is the obvious answer for false positives but dangerous as well (just because they are not broken now, does not mean they will not be broken soon) |
| 16:07.21 | zecke | koen: do you know when pysvn was updated? |
| 16:07.32 | koen | zecke: yesterday |
| 16:07.38 | RP | zecke: I know. I was reluncant to let that happen but didn't have time to find ross an alternative |
| 16:07.40 | koen | zecke: pester florian about it |
| 16:07.51 | zecke | RP: hehe |
| 16:08.06 | zecke | RP: did it find some bugs though? |
| 16:08.07 | hrw | MacPro is dual xeon |
| 16:08.14 | RP | zecke: a few, yes :) |
| 16:08.27 | mickeyl | hrw: hmm yeah. so the question is will it really be an upgrade |
| 16:08.29 | zecke | RP: so it was no complete waste of time |
| 16:08.39 | RP | zecke: I've agreed to enable it on our autobuilder although thats not happened quite yet |
| 16:08.50 | RP | zecke: No, I think its a great idea |
| 16:09.19 | hrw | mickeyl: it has server xeons |
| 16:10.06 | koen | mickeyl: and add tons of ram to the macpro, you won't regret it |
| 16:10.53 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 16:10.57 | mickeyl | tons = |
| 16:10.58 | mickeyl | 2G? |
| 16:10.59 | mickeyl | 4G? |
| 16:11.19 | zecke | mickeyl: ever heard of highmem support? |
| 16:11.20 | koen | mickeyl: at least 2G |
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| 16:12.43 | kergoth | morning |
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| 16:12.53 | RP | hi kergoth |
| 16:13.25 | koen | hey kergoth |
| 16:13.33 | hrw | mickeyl: iirc macpro support 16GB |
| 16:13.41 | mickeyl | heh |
| 16:13.50 | mickeyl | i'm not a billionaire |
| 16:13.51 | zecke | ah and obviously don't buy ram from apple |
| 16:14.16 | cbpage | then you *would* have been a billionare. |
| 16:14.19 | koen | right, use the kingston online configurator and write down the type |
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| 16:22.41 | koen | RP: OE has an updated http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/xserver-kdrive-common/etc/X11/Xserver , could be usefull for poky as well |
| 16:25.05 | RP | koen: You mean the Xw100 bits? |
| 16:25.15 | RP | or the dpi? |
| 16:25.55 | koen | Xw100, Ximageon, dpi bits, extra devices |
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| 16:26.19 | koen | it merges in all updates since the fork |
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| 16:26.22 | hrw | koen: w100 will be soon tested on e740 |
| 16:26.30 | koen | hrw: yes, I heard |
| 16:26.34 | zecke | koen: somehow a bogus space was in the path, bonsai updates work again |
| 16:26.45 | koen | zecke: cool, thanks for looking at it |
| 16:26.52 | RP | koen: I'll have to run the dpi changes past mallum and he's rather busy atm. I'll keep it in mind though, thanks |
| 16:27.15 | koen | RP: I'll send a patch to florian to merge in the o-hand changes into the upstream gpe one |
| 16:27.27 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.00 | RP | koen: ok, thanks |
| 16:28.20 | koen | RP: in OE we set fontconfig DPI to 160, so the change affect that |
| 16:28.23 | koen | but a test would be good :) |
| 16:28.51 | RP | koen: Where is the fontconfig dpi set? |
| 16:29.26 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.26 | greentux | hrw: hi, did you send the invoice? to where? essen or dresden? |
| 16:29.31 | RP | I don't really understand this dpi business/problems... |
| 16:29.34 | koen | coredump wrote a script for it |
| 16:32.00 | hrw | greentux: did had a time to send it. can we /query? |
| 16:32.05 | RP | koen: Which package is that in? |
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| 16:33.44 | koen | ./packages/xserver-common/files/setDPI.sh |
| 16:35.25 | RP | koen: thanks. I think that might solve some of my dpi concerns :) |
| 16:36.27 | Laibsch | koen, hrw: I have a problem now. Can you help me shed some light to the two questions I raised in |
| 16:36.32 | Laibsch | !oebug 1877 |
| 16:36.34 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1877, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-02-15 18:17 |
| 16:36.35 | cdbot2 | * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: linux-rp-2.6.20 will not build for collie (do_patch fails) |
| 16:36.36 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1877 |
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| 16:37.25 | koen | Laibsch: I don't have any helpfull remarks on both questions |
| 16:37.31 | koen | helpful* |
| 16:37.31 | hrw | Laibsch: collie/2.6 is not maintained rather. |
| 16:37.49 | hrw | Laibsch: catch pavel machek on fosdem and kick his ass until he will cooperate ;D |
| 16:38.09 | RP | hrw: Did you not see the message a while back - he's no longer working on collie |
| 16:38.29 | hrw | RP: ah.. not tracing lkml too often |
| 16:38.32 | hrw | RP: thx for info |
| 16:38.50 | hrw | Laibsch: you can be official collie/2.x maintainer if you want |
| 16:39.05 | Laibsch | I already volunteered to do that. |
| 16:39.14 | Laibsch | But of course I will need a lot of help. |
| 16:39.24 | Laibsch | I can be mainly useful in catching the problems. |
| 16:39.52 | Laibsch | hrw: But I guess you should be able to shed some light as to why oz is building a 2.6 kernel after all? |
| 16:40.06 | Laibsch | This must be a misconfigured dependency somewhere, I guess. |
| 16:40.13 | Laibsch | Well, I was hoping to fix this in the next 24 hours. |
| 16:40.21 | hrw | svn suxx |
| 16:40.40 | Laibsch | I will be meeting with YamaKen, the head developper of uim, here in Tokyo. |
| 16:41.15 | hrw | Laibsch: in .dev all machines are 2.6 iirc |
| 16:41.22 | Laibsch | Since I was having so many difficulties with the official, old collie images I was thinking about recompiling a new one to talk with him about uim on it. |
| 16:41.49 | Laibsch | hrw: OK. Is there a way to change this quickly and easily? |
| 16:42.30 | Laibsch | I guess I could just try and fix the patch as well. |
| 16:42.35 | hrw | Laibsch: vi conf/machine/collie.conf |
| 16:42.42 | Laibsch | It seems that the lines are off by about 10 lines, that is all. |
| 16:42.50 | Laibsch | hrw: OK, thanks. |
| 16:43.55 | Laibsch | hrw: That file says MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION ?= "2.4" |
| 16:44.28 | Laibsch | Should I just s/?=/=/ and see what happens? |
| 16:44.35 | Laibsch | Where else could it be set? |
| 16:44.40 | hrw | Laibsch: local.conf |
| 16:47.42 | Laibsch | hrw: Nothing in there like it: http://rafb.net/p/6M0IHI45.html Anything else? |
| 16:49.27 | hrw | Laibsch: you have gcc-2.95? |
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| 16:54.31 | Laibsch | hrw: yes, it is int the path |
| 16:54.37 | Laibsch | as last entry |
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| 17:22.32 | Laibsch | hrw: Maybe heeding the advice and defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER would help: http://rafb.net/p/SPlwZd94.html ? |
| 17:31.42 | hrw | Laibsch: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hostap-modules = "hostap-modules"? |
| 17:33.47 | Laibsch | hrw: for example. The stuff that is suggested. I see that linux-rp is always an option. I wonder if bitbake picks the wrong one (linux-rp when hostap-modules would have been better, same for the other cases) |
| 17:33.59 | Laibsch | Making explicit what to pick might fix this. |
| 17:34.42 | Laibsch | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_kernel is of course gonna be tricky. |
| 17:35.17 | Laibsch | Is it possible to lower the chance of linux-rp being chosen for that without making an explicit choice for example for the 64-0 image? |
| 17:35.44 | Laibsch | It seems collie and linux-rp don't match well. |
| 17:36.01 | Laibsch | Can I conflict them? |
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| 17:38.06 | hrw | Laibsch: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hostap-modules = "hostap-modules"? |
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| 17:39.16 | Laibsch | hrw, yes. For example. |
| 17:41.57 | Laibsch | hrw: http://rafb.net/p/zJWFjd32.html is what I hope fixes this. And in that case I would consider commiting it. |
| 17:46.02 | Laibsch | RP: is linux-rp from you? |
| 17:46.15 | RP | Laibsch: yes |
| 17:46.32 | Laibsch | OK. I guess linux-rp is always 2.6? |
| 17:46.42 | RP | Laibsch: very much so ;-) |
| 17:47.51 | Laibsch | Would it be possible to conflict linux-rp with anything that is always built for the collie? |
| 17:47.51 | Laibsch | Thus making sure it will not get picked. |
| 17:47.51 | Laibsch | I guess that would be a better solution than http://rafb.net/p/zJWFjd32.html |
| 17:47.51 | RP | Laibsch: linux-rp has collie 2.6 support |
| 17:47.51 | RP | Laibsch: I'd guess the key is PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hostap-modules = "hostap-modules", the other two look uneeded |
| 17:48.11 | RP | You might want a PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = though |
| 17:48.17 | Laibsch | RP: Well, but it breaks, see bug 1877. Until it does it would make sense to conflict it. |
| 17:48.36 | Laibsch | PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel is in collie.conf |
| 17:49.04 | RP | Laibsch: It might well break but that doesn't mean we should make it conflict. Earlier versions of linux-rp might work better btw |
| 17:50.20 | Laibsch | RP: http://rafb.net/p/SPlwZd94.html |
| 17:50.22 | Laibsch | That is why I think the other two are needed as well to make sure linux-rp is not being built. |
| 17:50.57 | Laibsch | RP: I just need an opie-image within the next 14 hours ;-) |
| 17:51.15 | RP | Laibsch: The list shows the order it will choose them in. Note linux-rp is not first in two of them, only hostap |
| 17:51.42 | RP | With a recent bitbake even that is the other way around |
| 17:51.47 | Laibsch | OK, I did not know the order is already for preference. |
| 17:51.57 | Laibsch | Well, the recent bitbake ;-) |
| 17:52.11 | Laibsch | That breaks other things for me. And regularly. |
| 17:52.19 | Laibsch | But I cannot remember exactly what it is. |
| 17:52.33 | RP | Its in development ;-) |
| 17:52.41 | Laibsch | But I can switch easily between them now by updating a symlink. |
| 17:52.57 | Laibsch | I usually stay with stable, though. |
| 17:54.16 | Laibsch | So we agree that adding PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hostap-modules = "hostap-modules" to collie-2.4.conf is a good idea? |
| 17:54.30 | RP | yes |
| 17:54.38 | Laibsch | OK, I will commit that later, then. |
| 17:55.46 | Laibsch | Since this is collie-*2.4*.conf, I guess it still would make sense to explicitly forbid linux-rp which as you say is 2.6. |
| 17:55.59 | Ifaistos | has anyone tried to build php lately ? |
| 17:56.01 | Laibsch | How to do that is another question. |
| 17:56.17 | RP | Laibsch: I was just about to ask you how you proposed doing that :) |
| 17:56.36 | Laibsch | RP: At first I thought "impossible" |
| 17:56.47 | Laibsch | But now I think there might be a way, even two. |
| 17:57.56 | Laibsch | a) if there is something that is always being built for 2.4 collie, make it conflict with linux-rp |
| 17:58.16 | Laibsch | This sounds a bit hacky and my wording is not 100% clear, but I think you get the idea. |
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| 17:58.58 | RP | Laibsch: You can't make two bb files conflict though, only resulting packages |
| 17:59.06 | Laibsch | b) make a meta package, DEPEND on it and thus create what I was looking for in a) |
| 17:59.56 | RP | Laibsch: I suspect both approaches will result in confusion :/ |
| 18:00.10 | Laibsch | yes, they are a bit hacky. I admit. |
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| 18:01.00 | Laibsch | RP: I guess we don't have "DISPREFERRED_VERSION"? Is that even and english word, disprefer? |
| 18:01.02 | Laibsch | ;-) |
| 18:02.01 | koen | LOATHED_VERSION? |
| 18:02.13 | Laibsch | Well, that is too strong ;-) |
| 18:02.44 | Laibsch | I have no personal issue with linux-rp, I just don't like it for collie |
| 18:03.24 | RP | Laibsch: No, its not English :) |
| 18:03.44 | Laibsch | RP: I was afraid it wasn't :-D |
| 18:04.30 | Laibsch | Well, let's see what that hostap stuff brings us |
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| 18:04.34 | PsychoChicken | I'm building openmoko for the first time. bitbake has stopped at package gta01-kernel-2.6, says it fails to fetch gta01-kernel-2.6-moko7-r1 |
| 18:05.02 | PsychoChicken | it's been building for hours... :-) |
| 18:06.58 | Laibsch | PsychoChicken: That is normal |
| 18:07.17 | PsychoChicken | I suppose you mean the "building for hours" |
| 18:07.21 | Laibsch | yes |
| 18:07.32 | Laibsch | Compiling instills patience ;-) |
| 18:07.37 | PsychoChicken | How about the fetching of the kernel? ;-) |
| 18:07.53 | PsychoChicken | The svn location seems to work (http proto) |
| 18:08.32 | Laibsch | PsychoChicken: http://rafb.net and paste the console error |
| 18:09.43 | PsychoChicken | http://rafb.net/p/2Vb0NA93.html |
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| 18:10.39 | PsychoChicken | line 71 is where it goes bad |
| 18:12.08 | hrw | cu |
| 18:13.58 | Laibsch | PsychoChicken: yes. Strange indeed since browsing to the URL shows a couple of nice little patches. Koen, what about line 71 in http://rafb.net/p/2Vb0NA93.html ? |
| 18:14.33 | PsychoChicken | I'm running bitbake with -v now, to get some more detail... |
| 18:14.58 | koen | Laibsch: line 71 is a bug in bitbakes svn fetcher combined with SRCDATEs iirc |
| 18:15.29 | PsychoChicken | workaround? |
| 18:16.08 | mr_nice | What do I need to do to get the Kernel modules builded and included into the resulting image? |
| 18:17.02 | mr_nice | Ah - I just saw that they are builded but just not included into the image |
| 18:17.34 | mr_nice | How can I change this? Someone hinted me to change something at distro? |
| 18:19.19 | koen | mr_nice: modules *needed* for the machine to operate properly should be in the MACHINE.conf, other ones in the distro or image |
| 18:19.44 | koen | mr_nice: see hx4700.conf |
| 18:20.30 | mr_nice | koen: ok I will have a look there - thx |
| 18:24.02 | mr_nice | koen: is there something possible like kernel-module* |
| 18:25.30 | xumbi8 | I'm struggling trying to create my first .bb recipe, could someone point me to a .bb file that just takes a file or two and puts it in ${libdir} or something similar? I need something simple |
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| 18:28.43 | cbrake | xumbi8: generally the population of what goes where is handled by autotools. |
| 18:28.47 | koen | mr_nice: no, you *must* specify the seperate modules, since you might want to build optional kernel-modules at a later point |
| 18:29.15 | cbrake | xumbi8: so the best way to build an app with OE, is use autotools, and then in your bb, "inherit autotools" |
| 18:30.00 | cbrake | xumbi8: it works _really_ well |
| 18:33.28 | xumbi8 | cbrake: that's cool, autotools sounds good for a full app, but right now I'm just trying to create a package that puts one library in /usr/lib |
| 18:33.44 | xumbi8 | no compiling at all |
| 18:34.48 | xumbi8 | I created my folder under packages, then a "files" folder under that with my library |
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| 18:36.01 | xumbi8 | I point SRC_URI to the name of the library, then I have a do_install() function with 'install -m 0644 ${WORKDIR}/<my library> ${D}${libdir}' |
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| 18:37.29 | xumbi8 | it seems to make sense based on the recipe example in the wiki, and after looking at some other .bb files, but it fails with "cannot create regular file `/oe/build/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/<my library>-r0/image/usr/lib': No such file or directory" |
| 18:37.55 | xumbi8 | clearly I don't understand how .bb files work :) |
| 18:38.17 | cbrake | xumbi8: can you pastbin your bb, and I'll take a quick look? |
| 18:38.34 | xumbi8 | cbrake: that would be great, if you don't mind |
| 18:40.47 | cbrake | xumbi8: I'm guessing you need to create the directory first |
| 18:41.42 | cbrake | xumbi8: here is an example when I'm creating a file that has a few udev rules: http://pastebin.ca/359304 |
| 18:41.48 | xumbi8 | cbrake: here it is http://pastebin.ca/359306 |
| 18:43.17 | xumbi8 | cbrake: ah, I think I understand... |
| 18:43.40 | cbrake | xumbi8: :-) |
| 18:44.38 | Laibsch | RP: the order of preference for kernel looks suspiciously like the one in packages/linux/collie-kernels-2.4-embedix.bb. I guess the 24-8 kernel is not the best choice in most cases. Would it make to move up the 64-0 image to the first position in that file? |
| 18:45.15 | xumbi8 | cbrake: wow, no idea how I missed that, I guess I had it in my mind that there was an existing directory structure containing all packaged files or something |
| 18:46.08 | xumbi8 | cbrake: thanks once again for the help |
| 18:46.35 | cbrake | xumbi8: yes, that is understandable. There is a separate directory structure for each package, so you have to create it. |
| 18:46.55 | cbrake | xumbi8: welcome -- glad things are working. |
| 18:58.11 | pb_ | hi all |
| 18:58.34 | mccarthy | hi pb_ |
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| 19:17.30 | Laibsch | I would like to push http://rafb.net/p/ZTZslS49.html (move 64-0 image to first position). Any objections? |
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| 19:28.32 | goxboxlive | is the repo down? I have not been able to pull the latest 5 hours |
| 19:29.09 | koen | use of the mirrors, they are there for a reason |
| 19:38.56 | goxboxlive | ok |
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| 19:46.26 | Crofton | http://code.google.com/soc/ |
| 19:46.32 | Crofton | summer of code is on! |
| 19:47.55 | Laibsch | koen: Is bug 1178 fixed? |
| 19:48.00 | Laibsch | !oebug 1178 |
| 19:48.01 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1178, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-07-16 02:22 |
| 19:48.02 | cdbot2 | * * laforge(AT)gnumonks.org: librsvg-2.11.1-r0 mozilaa plugin depends on host include |
| 19:48.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178 |
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| 19:59.05 | koen | Laibsch: can't say for sure |
| 20:00.33 | hvontres|poodle | wb mickeyl :) |
| 20:01.08 | mickeyl | hi |
| 20:01.22 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 20:01.23 | hvontres|poodle | mickeyl: so, one more week as a mere mortal :) |
| 20:01.33 | mickeyl | *nod* ;) |
| 20:02.22 | hvontres|poodle | mickeyl: heh...well, on the 24th I'll be in Vegas, getting kicked around at the ATA nationals :) |
| 20:03.46 | mickeyl | sounds cool |
| 20:04.55 | hvontres|poodle | mickeyl: yeah.. good exercise, and it can be a great way to reduce stress.. especailly when we get to kick inanimate objests..(pads etc) :) |
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| 20:08.50 | _law_ | why udev 1.00 is currently disabeld? |
| 20:10.50 | koen | _law_: untested and/or buggy |
| 20:11.05 | _law_ | koen ok |
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| 20:30.13 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 20:30.21 | mickeyl | do you guys remember how to add a ciabot client to a subversion repository? |
| 20:30.35 | koen | mickeyl: post commit hook? |
| 20:30.45 | mickeyl | yeah, something like that |
| 20:30.51 | mickeyl | how's that going exactly? |
| 20:31.24 | koen | mickeyl: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba-cvs/2005-January/054380.html ? |
| 20:31.48 | mickeyl | ah cool |
| 20:32.00 | mickeyl | now i just need to find the appropriate location |
| 20:32.04 | mickeyl | where is that hooks dir? |
| 20:32.16 | mickeyl | on the server or in the repository? |
| 20:33.33 | koen | on the server it seems |
| 20:34.24 | Crofton | post commit hook |
| 20:34.24 | Crofton | ? |
| 20:34.24 | mickeyl | ya |
| 20:34.24 | Crofton | server I would guess |
| 20:34.28 | mickeyl | aah |
| 20:34.30 | mickeyl | seen it |
| 20:34.53 | koen | mickeyl: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html#svn.reposadmin.create.hooks |
| 20:35.02 | mickeyl | thanks |
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| 20:37.08 | sirfred | Hello |
| 20:38.04 | woglinde | hm is the monotone server down? |
| 20:39.02 | koen | hey sirfred |
| 20:39.13 | sirfred | koen: Hi |
| 20:39.13 | koen | woglinde: no, it's overloaded, use one of the mirrors |
| 20:39.20 | woglinde | koen okay |
| 20:39.29 | woglinde | hm openmoko dos? |
| 20:39.31 | woglinde | *g* |
| 20:40.34 | sirfred | I have an strange effect with xmodmap. It doesn't work as expected when operating on the husky keyboard, it just ignores the changes. |
| 20:40.34 | mickeyl | RP: do you have access to berlios where our bitbake sits? |
| 20:40.34 | sirfred | But, when I'm using a remote keyboard, it maps correctly |
| 20:40.34 | mickeyl | i'd like to see how we customized the ciabot_svn for bitbake |
| 20:40.49 | koen | mickeyl: ssh in to berlios? |
| 20:41.33 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 20:41.41 | mickeyl | dunno whether i have access |
| 20:42.30 | koen | mickeyl: ping kergoth I guess |
| 20:42.43 | woglinde | hm or zecke |
| 20:43.53 | mickeyl | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.53 | mickeyl | Welcome to your BerliOS account |
| 20:43.56 | mickeyl | guess i'm in |
| 20:44.57 | koen | although I suspect it's customized at the cia site |
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| 20:54.26 | florian | re |
| 20:58.46 | koen | mickeyl: http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2500 |
| 20:59.39 | koen | apple's beefed up olpc meets umpc |
| 21:03.41 | sirfred | Oh, I've just found that the /etc/X11/shepherd.xmodmap is only applied for 2.4 kernels. I was starting to get mad |
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| 21:05.06 | hrw|gone | koen: lakml |
| 21:07.02 | hrw | Laibsch: collie-2.4 should prefer 'openzaurus-sa' or 'collie-kernels'. I propose using first one and set COLLLIE_RAM/COLLIE_MEM (or how it was called) to 64/0 with =? |
| 21:07.59 | hrw | koen: you was faster then me ;) |
| 21:08.14 | koen | :D |
| 21:08.42 | hrw | koen: read my answer |
| 21:09.11 | hrw | when it will arrive |
| 21:12.03 | hrw | koen: when angstrom will provide some kind of cross-sdk? |
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| 21:12.20 | koen | hrw: you means a standalone one? |
| 21:12.22 | hrw | yes |
| 21:12.25 | koen | no idea |
| 21:12.37 | hrw | grab, unpack, use arm-angstrom-linux-gcc |
| 21:12.37 | koen | when someone fixes the cross-sdk recipes I guess |
| 21:12.59 | koen | I have a scratchbox toolchain that people can use in scratchbox |
| 21:13.32 | woglinde | hm hm |
| 21:13.34 | hrw | I think that having cross-sdk ready before ELC would be nice |
| 21:13.59 | woglinde | re hrw |
| 21:14.19 | hrw | koen: then blebleble about arm/eabi, oe/angstrom and point to angstrom/eabi toolchain |
| 21:14.22 | hrw | hi woglinde |
| 21:14.36 | woglinde | hm what should I use for simpad now? |
| 21:14.42 | woglinde | in local.conf |
| 21:15.17 | hrw | woglinde: machine=simpad, distro=angstrom-2007.1-oabi |
| 21:15.30 | hrw | cu |
| 21:15.39 | woglinde | hrw thanks |
| 21:15.43 | hrw | woglinde: koen will tell the rest ;) |
| 21:16.00 | hrw | woglinde: also check does simpad is 2.6 or 2.4 by default (I assume 2.6) |
| 21:16.52 | woglinde | hrw yes some one did some 2.6.20 work |
| 21:17.00 | hrw|gone | woglinde: it was mr_nice |
| 21:17.10 | woglinde | yes I thought this |
| 21:21.28 | Laibsch | good morning |
| 21:21.34 | woglinde | he laibsch |
| 21:21.38 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: I will make the proposed changes. |
| 21:21.49 | Laibsch | hey woglinde |
| 21:21.51 | woglinde | how is life in japan? |
| 21:21.56 | Laibsch | Nice. |
| 21:22.11 | Laibsch | But badly jet-lagged. This has been going on all week :-/ |
| 21:24.46 | woglinde | so now I will drink a beer |
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| 21:43.35 | woglinde | cbrake nice |
| 21:59.21 | woglinde | koen hm why angstroem need lbsdl native? |
| 21:59.39 | koen | woglinde: qemu-native |
| 22:00.06 | woglinde | hm but i dont want qemu native |
| 22:00.20 | koen | yes you do |
| 22:00.31 | koen | otherwise you won't have any glibc |
| 22:00.46 | woglinde | hrhrhrhrh |
| 22:00.54 | woglinde | QEMU is known to have problems when compiled with gcc 4.x |
| 22:00.55 | woglinde | | It is recommended that you use gcc 3.x to build QEMU |
| 22:01.01 | koen | apt-get install gcc-3.4 |
| 22:01.06 | woglinde | yes yes |
| 22:01.50 | woglinde | hm how is the compile path for glibc with qemu? |
| 22:02.13 | Ifaistos | slow :) |
| 22:02.22 | woglinde | hehe |
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| 22:14.49 | Ifaistos | koen : is there an active mainter for the x86 kernels ? |
| 22:15.26 | Ifaistos | koen : seems they are a bit behind 2.6.17 |
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| 22:41.25 | Laibsch | I guess I cannot "svn up" from bitbake 1.6.2 to 1.6.6? I have to check out afresh? |
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| 22:48.26 | koen | Laibsch: svn up should work |
| 22:53.43 | Laibsch | koen: "svn up" tells me I am at revision 761. "bitbake --version" says I have 1.6.2. What does "bitbake --version" say for you? |
| 22:54.03 | Laibsch | Well, I guess you use bitbake unstable, though |
| 22:54.28 | koen | BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.7.4, bitbake version 1.7.4 |
| 22:54.42 | koen | I thought that 1.6.x were only tags, not branches |
| 22:54.47 | koen | seems that I'm wrong |
| 22:55.00 | Laibsch | OK |
| 22:55.28 | Ifaistos | they are branches |
| 22:56.06 | Ifaistos | koen : who maintains the x86 kernels ? |
| 22:56.15 | koen | no idea |
| 22:56.18 | rwhitby | BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.6.7, bitbake version 1.6.7 |
| 22:56.24 | rwhitby | At revision 761. |
| 22:56.29 | koen | no entry in MAINTAINERS? |
| 22:56.32 | rwhitby | that's the latest on 2.6 branch |
| 22:56.37 | rwhitby | s/2.6/1.6/ |
| 22:58.04 | koen | yay: http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=cairo;a=commit;h=2715f2098127d04d2f9e304580a26cd0842c0e64 |
| 22:58.41 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 23:01.40 | Laibsch | rwhitby: How come the revision is the same but version is different? |
| 23:02.09 | rwhitby | Laibsch: dunno - I just pull from svn |
| 23:02.45 | Laibsch | me too ;-) |
| 23:04.27 | hvontres|poodle | Hey CoreDump|home :) |
| 23:04.39 | Laibsch | koen: The change you made to SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR in 4c3e39344044dd60a48450fcc753d56c4739dad7 was that intentional or by accident? I suspect the latter and would like to reverse that change in that case. |
| 23:04.46 | Ifaistos | koen : no, there is no entry |
| 23:05.52 | koen | Laibsch: that was unintentional, sorry |
| 23:06.28 | woglinde | args |
| 23:06.36 | woglinde | gcc-4.1.1 crashes for me |
| 23:07.08 | Laibsch | koen: OK. |
| 23:07.22 | Laibsch | I will push a change later today. |
| 23:07.29 | woglinde | hm or I have corrupted memory |
| 23:10.39 | woglinde | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.15 | woglinde | but glibc for target is right vuilding now |
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| 23:12.27 | CIA-20 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc8821bce... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-apps/openmoko-dialer_svn.bb): openmoko-dialer: depend on eds-dbus |
| 23:13.01 | TheSin | hey guys I'm a fink developer and I'm working on getting openmoko devel stuff into fink |
| 23:13.28 | TheSin | I do have a major problem with the qmake build system in crrent svn in the openmoko-libs dir |
| 23:13.47 | TheSin | VERSION < 1 are not supported |
| 23:14.22 | TheSin | just wondering if that has been reported yet or not? |
| 23:14.41 | koen | TheSin: dont use qmake, use autotools |
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| 23:15.35 | TheSin | the autotools version miss TONS of libs, mostly empty libs but since i'm new to openmoko I wasn't sure how important they where |
| 23:15.53 | koen | the autotools version works |
| 23:15.56 | TheSin | it also means I have to pkg each dir it would seem instead of all at once |
| 23:16.19 | koen | you have to package each package seperately |
| 23:16.27 | koen | unless you want to break fink even more |
| 23:16.42 | TheSin | I have successfully pkgs ipkg and just working out a few bugs in eds-dbus (mostly pkging stuff) so I'd like to start on openmoko on the weekend |
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| 23:17.12 | TheSin | koen, I could have one build process and seperate them into seperate pkgs |
| 23:17.22 | koen | eeeeew |
| 23:17.23 | TheSin | make maintaining them much easier |
| 23:17.35 | koen | no wonder fink is such a steaming pile of breakage |
| 23:17.41 | TheSin | naw fink handles that part very well |
| 23:18.02 | koen | fink manages to break itself everytime I use it |
| 23:18.11 | TheSin | that sounds like user error |
| 23:18.18 | TheSin | I have been using it since the start |
| 23:18.23 | TheSin | and I have never had to reisntall once |
| 23:18.26 | koen | I only keep it because darwinports sucks even more |
| 23:18.34 | TheSin | that is true ;) |
| 23:18.46 | hillct | is there a shortcut for apending to the compile-time include directory? In my case, I'm writing a recipie for logrotate which depends upon popt. I listed it in DEPENDS but how do I pass the proper include path to the compile step? |
| 23:18.56 | TheSin | I don't think fink is perfect but it's much better then doing everything by hand |
| 23:19.22 | TheSin | anyhow now that I know the autotools version works I'll use that route thanks koen |
| 23:19.53 | koen | hillct: e.g. -I${STAGING_INCDIR} |
| 23:19.54 | TheSin | but jsut and FYI the qmake way works too so long as you use QT4.1+ and the VERSION in teh pro files is 1+ |
| 23:20.14 | TheSin | anyhow I'll be back I'm sure ;) thanks for your help |
| 23:21.11 | hillct | koen: thanks. I'll need some more detail, but lemme go browse the docs now that i know what to look for, first :) |
| 23:21.32 | Laibsch | What is a mirror I can use for monotone.oe.org? |
| 23:21.48 | koen | the ones mentioned in GettingStarted? |
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| 23:22.17 | koen | the ones after "If monotone.openembeddeded.org is down you can use the following backup monotone servers:" |
| 23:23.15 | Laibsch | I guess they might do ;-) |
| 23:23.43 | Laibsch | But of course they "backup monotone servers" and not mirrors so old fart google did not know about'em ;-) |
| 23:23.57 | Laibsch | they are |
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| 23:26.53 | Laibsch | Oh shit 29 revisions in. That is going to take a while :-/ |
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