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| 04:26.40 | CIA-19 | 03roman.moravcik 07org.oe.dev * rba7c9e5a... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/rx3000/defconfig): |
| 04:26.40 | CIA-19 | linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.19: Update defconfig for rx3000. |
| 04:26.40 | CIA-19 | * Closes #1812. |
| 04:26.44 | CIA-19 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rab659b89... 10/ (1 conf/machine/rx3000.conf): |
| 04:26.44 | CIA-19 | rx3000: Prefer kernel 2.6.18-hh2, until 2.6.19 will be revamped from mainline breakage. |
| 04:26.44 | CIA-19 | * Closes #1812. |
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| 09:01.42 | XorA | morning |
| 09:02.55 | likewise | morning |
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| 09:24.27 | hrw|work | morning |
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| 09:31.25 | RP | morning all |
| 09:32.08 | hrw|work | hi RP |
| 09:32.31 | likewise | good morning all |
| 09:35.31 | XorA | hey RP |
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| 10:12.07 | hrw|work | ~seen gerwinin |
| 10:12.35 | ibot | gerwinin <n=gerwinin@ip5457b30e.direct-adsl.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 6d 17h 17s ago, saying: 'Hrw: you can send yo gerwin@vanderkruis.net'. |
| 10:13.39 | pb__ | hi rp |
| 10:13.41 | pb__ | hi zecke |
| 10:13.45 | pb__ | hi mickeyl |
| 10:13.53 | pb__ | hi xora |
| 10:14.07 | XorA | hi pb__ |
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| 10:33.04 | vlo | good morning |
| 10:36.41 | vlo | I would like some advice on buildsystem. I nowadays usually use cmake. But I don't think it is very well suited for cross-compiling yet, and I would like to use something more comfortable than autotools and well supported in OE. Someone know what the "Holy Grail" is ? |
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| 10:51.46 | XorA | vlo: I think mickeyl did some scons stuff in oE |
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| 10:55.37 | hrw|work | hi florian |
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| 10:59.21 | vlo | XorA: and do you know how cmake is supported in OE ? |
| 10:59.39 | XorA | vlo: no |
| 11:00.57 | zecke | oh lorn changed the job title |
| 11:01.13 | ggilbert | what is it now? |
| 11:01.18 | XorA | zecke: moving to Brisbane? |
| 11:01.23 | zecke | Trolltech Software Engineer, MES, Hardware Group |
| 11:01.30 | zecke | XorA: did hell freeze over? |
| 11:03.42 | XorA | zecke: surely you could reform them :-) |
| 11:04.39 | zecke | XorA: they had their chanche. I always apply once at companies and back in 2003 they missed their oppurtunity :) |
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| 11:07.09 | zecke | Any comments if product announcements and job offers are On Topic for oe-dev? |
| 11:07.38 | XorA | I would have thought more suitable in oe-users |
| 11:13.58 | hrw|work | XorA: how many oe devels read oe-users? |
| 11:14.22 | XorA | hrw|work: then its a good place to send spam :-) |
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| 11:32.53 | lrg | moning all |
| 11:33.28 | XorA | hey lrg |
| 11:34.02 | lrg | hey XorA, back to work ;) |
| 11:37.13 | pb__ | hi lrg |
| 11:37.50 | lrg | hey pb__ |
| 11:38.05 | pb__ | is it snowing up there in the frozen north? |
| 11:38.53 | XorA | nope |
| 11:38.56 | XorA | cold and sunny |
| 11:39.30 | pb__ | ah right, same as here |
| 11:39.38 | pb__ | we had some snow earlier this morning but it's mostly melted now |
| 11:40.08 | rw | .oO(bavaria gets covered) |
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| 11:57.19 | gerwinin | Likewise: When did you plan the oe diner in eindhoven ? |
| 11:58.34 | likewise | gerwinin: I saw Koen yesterday when he went to the sneak preview cinema with us. He has time on thursday. Does that suit you? |
| 11:58.43 | gerwinin | Okay |
| 11:58.52 | gerwinin | Likewise : Okay |
| 11:59.31 | likewise | gerwinin: nothing was planned besides that. any preference on time and place? |
| 11:59.58 | gerwinin | No that is all up to you |
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| 12:01.30 | likewise | gerwinin: trafalgar pub would allow Guinness and food opportunities, but can be quite smokey. |
| 12:02.34 | hrw|work | hi gerwinin - thx for mail |
| 12:04.58 | gerwinin | Guinness = good :) |
| 12:05.26 | XorA | anyone got ideas which embedded companies are going to be hanging round FOSDEM |
| 12:06.05 | likewise | gerwinin: ok, let's meet at the trafalgar pub then, say 19:00? |
| 12:06.27 | likewise | XorA: I guess lotsof ppl working at embedded companies, or do you mean speakers? |
| 12:07.05 | XorA | likewise: I mean the people just hanging around with company name badges on |
| 12:07.14 | likewise | gerwinin: tomorrow that is. |
| 12:07.34 | likewise | XorA: I could pin a company badge on :-) |
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| 12:10.43 | pb__ | hi wookey |
| 12:12.29 | lrg | hey wookey |
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| 12:42.45 | Jin^eLD | re |
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| 13:35.14 | likewise | hi Jin^eLD, wookey |
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| 13:40.30 | Crofton | We are not alone: |
| 13:40.31 | Crofton | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070124/wr_nm/wadmo_website_odd_dc_1 |
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| 13:49.55 | CM | Hehe |
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| 14:16.09 | dothedog | Hi guys, has anyone had a chance to look at bug 1815? I can't build glibc... |
| 14:18.08 | XorA | !oebug 1815 |
| 14:18.09 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1815, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-01-22 20:01 |
| 14:18.10 | cdbot2 | * * dothedog(AT)comcast.net: glibc build fails on locale generation |
| 14:18.11 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1815 |
| 14:23.57 | XorA | dothedog: dont recognise that problem |
| 14:25.19 | dothedog | XorA: I got it to work a while back. I'm trying to do a rebuild of gpe-image. Don't know what has changed. |
| 14:28.16 | dothedog | XorA: I'm doing this on x86... |
| 14:29.43 | XorA | dothedog: x86_64 here, so its different |
| 14:30.26 | dothedog | Yeah, I have an x86_64 box as well, had different locale generation problem with that one. ;) |
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| 14:59.02 | Jin^eLD | koen|away: ping |
| 14:59.06 | Jin^eLD | oh.. away |
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| 15:03.55 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:08.19 | XorA | who added pulseaudio to OE? |
| 15:08.55 | hrw|work | koen |
| 15:09.25 | XorA | ~lart koen, pulseaudio does not PROVIDES = "esound" |
| 15:16.19 | CIA-19 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r471ef385... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/pulseaudio_0.9.5.bb): |
| 15:16.19 | CIA-19 | pulseaudio_0.9.5.bb : it doesnt PROVIDE esound as it doesnt stage headers |
| 15:16.19 | CIA-19 | or pkgconfig stuff |
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| 15:52.23 | hrw|work | Laibsch: ping? |
| 15:53.50 | hrw|work | two japanese blogs mentioned my 'end of zaurus line' posts |
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| 15:59.42 | slapin_nb | hi! why does OE checkouts SVN to workdir instead of sources/svn ? |
| 16:10.04 | zecke | slapin_nb: it doesn't |
| 16:10.30 | zecke | slapin_nb: first bitbake is doing the checkout, 2nd OE is copying/untaring the checkout |
| 16:12.37 | slapin_nb | I'm bothered that on package rebuild it started checkout from scratch and not just updated repo |
| 16:13.14 | zecke | slapin_nb: I doubt that :) |
| 16:13.33 | slapin_nb | it created dir with name oesvn.O18362 under package directory and checkouts there |
| 16:13.59 | slapin_nb | I'd prefer if it updated repo |
| 16:14.03 | zecke | slapin_nb: you mean workdir? or what is package directory? |
| 16:14.09 | slapin_nb | workdir |
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| 16:14.23 | zecke | slapin_nb: ah ho, show me the strace that it is doing svn co in ${WORKDIR} |
| 16:15.03 | bradbev | how can I step through each bitbake stage? bitbake -i? Then what commands? |
| 16:16.29 | zecke | bradbev: you can only list the available tasks, but not their dependencies/relations |
| 16:17.00 | bradbev | ah |
| 16:17.08 | slapin_nb | zecke, how to make it print information to log? with -DDD it doesn't |
| 16:17.53 | bradbev | sorry to be thick, but how do I list those tasks? |
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| 16:19.03 | zecke | bradbev: let me check :) |
| 16:19.58 | bradbev | :) |
| 16:20.00 | bradbev | thanks |
| 16:20.15 | zecke | slapin_nb: See. You say it is doing svn co instead of svn up and you say it is doing that in the WORKDIR. I want to believe but it is your job to show me the facts/smoking gun... |
| 16:20.47 | zecke | bradbev: bitbake -b a/bb/file.bb -c listtasks |
| 16:21.18 | bradbev | ah, cool - thans |
| 16:21.21 | zecke | RP: is listtask still working with bitbake trunk? |
| 16:23.15 | slapin_nb | zecke, http://ossfans.org/paste?id=44e2a5 |
| 16:24.35 | zecke | slapin_nb: where do I see teh $CWD? |
| 16:24.35 | zecke | slapin_nb: and is this bb file insinde OE? |
| 16:24.42 | koen__ | good morning all |
| 16:25.04 | bradbev | right. So my situation is that I have a working system, but I don't like the layout of the dirs. So I have changed it to be more like what I want, but now making a particular image is broken. The do_rootfs task is not running. Any ideas what could be suppressing it? |
| 16:26.13 | zecke | bradbev: well, it all depends on what and how you moved stuff around... |
| 16:26.24 | likewise | koen__: good morning koen |
| 16:27.31 | bradbev | zecke, I've not moved any of the OE stuff. Just created a setup more like the one HRW describes in his blog. |
| 16:27.38 | koen__ | hey likewise |
| 16:27.44 | hrw|work | hi koen |
| 16:27.46 | bradbev | so I can build different machines easily |
| 16:27.49 | likewise | koen__: you got mail at koen@openembedded.org about thursday, are you able to read that? |
| 16:28.03 | koen__ | likewise: the reply should be in your inbox :) |
| 16:28.09 | slapin_nb | zecke, http://ossfans.org/paste?id=288cc6 |
| 16:28.11 | koen__ | trafalgar sounds good |
| 16:28.32 | zecke | slapin_nb: whats that? |
| 16:29.02 | zecke | slapin_nb: afariad of using strace and filtering it? |
| 16:29.17 | likewise | I'm off now. cu! |
| 16:29.37 | likewise | koen__: ack. |
| 16:30.12 | Jin^eLD | koen__: we noticed some problems with taglib, even crashes, so we changed the default settings to use id3lib for tag parsing |
| 16:30.31 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: if your hackndev bb file is not doing random garbage, please feel free to mail me the proof |
| 16:30.31 | Jin^eLD | I updated the .bb file in our SVN |
| 16:31.15 | Jin^eLD | koen: could you please update the mediatomb_svn.bb in OE? |
| 16:31.43 | zecke|away | bradbev: no idea about the reasons, there are many possible causes even human failure |
| 16:31.45 | slapin_nb | zecke|away, I won't |
| 16:31.55 | slapin_nb | zecke|away, I provided all required info |
| 16:31.59 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: lol |
| 16:32.12 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: your last pastebin doesn't even list the $CWD... |
| 16:32.20 | CIA-19 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re6eeb251... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/pulseaudio_0.9.5.bb): pulse-audio: inherit pkgconfig and stage headers |
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| 16:32.56 | bradbev | zecke|away, most likely that :) |
| 16:33.08 | slapin_nb | zecke|away, what is this PWD=/home/slapin/openedhand/tmp/work/palmz72-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-hackndev-2.6-2.6.17-hnd0-r0/oesvn.S19182 |
| 16:33.43 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: where is the bb file is the bb file in question? |
| 16:34.05 | slapin_nb | it is in OE |
| 16:34.06 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/bitbake/trunk/bitbake/lib/bb/fetch/svn.py?rev=751&view=markup it should update, and it is upating for all others |
| 16:34.25 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: so show me where it fails |
| 16:34.36 | slapin_nb | linux-hackndev-2.6.bb |
| 16:34.50 | slapin_nb | zecke|away, I'm not that good with bitbake stuff |
| 16:35.14 | slapin_nb | zecke|away, otherwise I'd send patch |
| 16:35.30 | CIA-19 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r58bb7c26... 10/ (1 packages/mediatomb/mediatomb_svn.bb): mediatomb: switch to id3lib |
| 16:35.53 | koen | XorA: could you check if pulseaudio now can provide esound? gprs sucks for ssh :( |
| 16:36.15 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: the bb fle itself looks sane. So please use strace |
| 16:36.16 | XorA | koen: it can RPROVIDE it, not PROVIDE it |
| 16:36.17 | hrw|work | slapin_nb: bitbake 1.6.x? |
| 16:36.20 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: and filter it |
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| 16:36.33 | XorA | koen: it doesnt have esd.h or anything like it in the source |
| 16:36.35 | koen | XorA: it has esound.h |
| 16:36.39 | zecke|away | anyway paid work waits |
| 16:37.00 | slapin_nb | hrw|work, yes |
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| 16:37.54 | XorA | koen: I shall re-check later |
| 16:38.01 | koen | thanks |
| 16:38.32 | XorA | my build machine is rsyncing a feed so I got 10s delay on keypresses |
| 16:38.43 | zecke|away | oh ha, sorry, looks like bitbake-1.6 branch didn't do svn up :) |
| 16:39.04 | zecke|away | but it is still strange that $DL_DIR is not used and $TMPDIR |
| 16:39.20 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: hehe, you are perfectly right with bitbake 1.6 |
| 16:39.48 | zecke|away | my mind was with trunk, sorry about that |
| 16:40.16 | slapin_nb | zecke|away, what version is appropriae to use with current OE.dev? |
| 16:40.23 | slapin_nb | *appropriate |
| 16:40.42 | zecke|away | slapin_nb: still bitbake-1.6 |
| 16:40.44 | psokolovsky | zecke|away, hrw|work : please apply http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1367 to 1.6 branch. I've been using it on 1.6 all this time w/o issues. Sorry I couldn't push that earlier or in mroe formal - I had to prune list of stuff I work on ;-( |
| 16:41.19 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 16:41.21 | mickeyl | hi guys, btw. |
| 16:41.46 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
| 16:42.02 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 16:42.14 | hrw|work | psokolovsky: and thats the problem which slapin_nb has ;D |
| 16:42.29 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, I pass task of pushing that patch to 1.6 to you ;-I. |
| 16:42.39 | psokolovsky | hrw|work, yeah, exactly. |
| 16:42.42 | hrw|work | psokolovsky: this patch need to be redone as I changed svn.py yesterday |
| 16:42.44 | zecke|away | psokolovsky: feel free to add it to the backporting bug, and make mickeyl,RP,kergoth,hrw,pb_ commit it |
| 16:42.55 | hrw|work | psokolovsky: #829 |
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| 16:43.21 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, you heard what should be done ;-) |
| 16:43.31 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, ok |
| 16:50.06 | pb__ | hi mickeyl |
| 16:51.06 | mickeyl | hi pb_! |
| 16:51.14 | mickeyl | ~pester pb_ to book flight and hotel |
| 16:51.20 | ibot | pb_ to book flight and hotel: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
| 16:51.24 | pb__ | oh, good thinking |
| 16:52.02 | pb__ | mickeyl: heh, how does one become an openmoko software engineer? |
| 16:52.44 | koen|gprs | it probably involves feeding mickeyl some leffe brun |
| 16:53.45 | mickeyl | pb_: that depends on the amount of work you want to do. i'm sure OpenMoko Inc. would pay for some skilled Gtk+ guys :) |
| 16:54.15 | mickeyl | other than that, you can just hope you're on the free devices list and do some work in exchange for the phone |
| 16:54.32 | mickeyl | if you're interested, that is |
| 16:55.14 | hrw|work | psokolovsky: patch in #1387 updated - can you test it? |
| 16:55.55 | hrw|work | ~curse monotone 'developers' |
| 16:55.57 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, monotone 'developers' ! |
| 16:56.20 | psokolovsky | hrw|work, #1367? |
| 16:56.22 | hrw|work | using monotone without r/w is nightmare |
| 16:56.23 | bradbev | ah ha! different org.openembedded.dev trees! |
| 16:56.26 | hrw|work | psokolovsky: yes |
| 16:57.29 | hrw|work | fsck |
| 16:57.37 | hrw|work | mtn update |
| 16:57.41 | hrw|work | mtn: misuse: path 'packages/linux/linux-hackndev-2.6/palmz72' already exists, cannot create |
| 16:58.34 | hrw|work | koen|gprs: r/w to monotone repository |
| 16:59.26 | hrw|work | looks like I need to start using collections on some machines (the ones which I do not trust enough to keep mtn keys) |
| 16:59.49 | RP | zecke|away: It appears listtask isn't working, no :-/ |
| 17:00.06 | Crofton|home | mickeyl, let me need to know if they need someone to test the phone on a US network :) |
| 17:00.41 | zecke|away | RP: because of the usage of 'task' varFlag? where do we want to keep track of things to fix? |
| 17:00.55 | mickeyl | RP: howdy. did you get my tarball or was it too large? |
| 17:01.02 | mickeyl | Crofton: :) |
| 17:01.07 | hrw|work | Crofton|home: isn't US people wait for iphone rather? |
| 17:01.15 | alvises | i have tested openzaurus opie/gpe but not satisfied at all. The programs crash and are very slow. Then is there a rom with a good package support, that supports my prism2 wifi,a good browser, that runs divx(?) ? I'm despered because i have tried all the openzaurus settings... but the important applications crash (vlc, gaim packet manager).. then, i'm not able to compile a distrubution is there one distro that a lot of you use ? |
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| 17:02.02 | hrw|work | cu |
| 17:02.09 | mickeyl | alvises: we are in the wrong channel to discuss that, but... which device are you running it on and do you feel SharpROM is any faster? |
| 17:02.33 | alvises | mickeyl: c3200 |
| 17:03.09 | alvises | mickeyl: i deleted the sharpRom because was in jap. |
| 17:03.37 | RP | mickeyl: I got it thanks, just haven't had time to do anything once again :-/ |
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| 17:03.50 | mickeyl | RP: np, just was worried about whether it was stuck in a filter |
| 17:03.58 | mickeyl | alvises: i would be surprised if the sharprom was any faster with its ancient kernel |
| 17:04.16 | RP | zecke|away: I guess a bug in the bugzilla would be the best bet. I haven't looked at why it fails, just confirmed it does... |
| 17:04.57 | alvises | mickey1: hehe |
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| 17:10.12 | pb__ | mickeyl: my eurostar ticket is booked now :-) |
| 17:11.00 | zecke | oh.. hmm booking a flight :} |
| 17:11.08 | zecke | hmm the secretary went home already :} |
| 17:11.19 | mickeyl | pb_: excellent. the automatic reminder is now offline ;) |
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| 17:12.35 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: pong. URL? |
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| 17:16.15 | pb__ | mickeyl: phew! |
| 17:16.38 | pb__ | I'll do my hotel later. |
| 17:16.49 | mickeyl | cool. |
| 17:16.56 | zecke | hehe |
| 17:19.59 | mickeyl | FOSDEM is after thesis defence which makes /me a very relaxed guy |
| 17:20.08 | mickeyl | leffe for all |
| 17:20.08 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 17:20.27 | RP | mickeyl: :) |
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| 17:25.39 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.13 | mickeyl | Drē Lauer |
| 17:27.19 | mickeyl | sounds funny |
| 17:27.34 | mickeyl | i guess no one knows the latin plural of Doctor anyway |
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| 17:27.35 | mickeyl | Dres. |
| 17:27.36 | zecke | mickeyl: what is the last name of your wife? |
| 17:27.45 | mickeyl | zecke: she took mine |
| 17:27.48 | zecke | hehe :) |
| 17:27.50 | zecke | Dres. Lauer |
| 17:27.54 | zecke | funny |
| 17:27.58 | mickeyl | yeyh |
| 17:27.59 | mickeyl | yeah |
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| 17:56.41 | hvontres|poodle | mickeyl: how about (Dr Lauer)^2 |
| 17:57.54 | mickeyl | might be an option. on the other hand, it might be just to silly and would give the (false) impression that we really care about these things |
| 17:58.24 | slapin_nb | hrw|gone, mickeyl, RP - I updated psokolovsky 's patch for svn update to current 1.6.3 and attached it to bug 829 |
| 17:58.50 | mickeyl | thanks slapin_nb |
| 17:58.51 | zecke | mickeyl: kidding me? what was this blinkenlight doorbell idea about ;) |
| 17:58.56 | zecke | just kidding |
| 17:58.58 | mickeyl | heh |
| 17:58.59 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, lol. but hrw did that already, he wrote here! anyway, let's have it tested. |
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| 18:02.32 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, I have built rootfs using it, so seems to work |
| 18:02.37 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, actually no, wait 1min pls, I'll upload final version to test ;-) |
| 18:03.04 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, what is wrong? |
| 18:03.04 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, you checked that on a second build, it does just svn update? |
| 18:03.48 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, well, hrw is maintainer, and he did some formatting changes, which cannot be just thrown away ;-) at the same time, he missed to kill some old code |
| 18:06.43 | psokolovsky | plus made few typos - I bet, just to make sure we catch them ;-) |
| 18:07.31 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, what is wrong with svn update? |
| 18:08.03 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, "slapin_nb, you checked that on a second build, it does just svn update?" |
| 18:09.09 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, I see |
| 18:10.10 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, btw, will you be able to update kernel-hackndev-2.6 in ~20-30 minutes? |
| 18:11.12 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, you're very impatient ;-). no. I won't start with anything else before bitbake patch will be done. |
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| 18:12.08 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, I just hunting some ugly bug... sorry :) |
| 18:12.55 | psokolovsky | and me doing qa'ing ;-I |
| 18:14.13 | zecke | psokolovsky: which is appreciated :) |
| 18:16.29 | slapin_nb | I could connect to that QA'ing btw :) |
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| 18:23.33 | psokolovsky | hrw: "bb.note(1, "Update " + loc)" - bb.note doesn't accept loglevel - note is note. I assume it's ok to leave that as note (at least for few weeks ;-)), not convert to bb.debug(). |
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| 18:30.11 | RP | psokolovsky: FWIW, bb.msg.note does take a loglevel. |
| 18:30.25 | RP | I can't remember is thats in 1.6 though... |
| 18:30.37 | psokolovsky | RP: ok, it doesn't in 1.6 ;-) |
| 18:31.20 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, I posted final version of patch at #1367. please revert your local changes and test that one. |
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| 18:32.14 | B_Lizzard | ~lart |
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| 18:33.23 | mr_nice | hi all |
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| 18:52.14 | likewise | XorA: I already bought Krispy Kream Donuts for Koen |
| 18:52.38 | likewise | (not really though... don't think we have them here) |
| 18:56.46 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, any news on testing? |
| 18:57.39 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, nothing broken yet. |
| 18:57.55 | mr_nice | does bitbake recognizes when I change a defconfig file in the kernel directory or do I have to clean the already builded stuff? |
| 18:58.13 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, well, we need to test not only that it doesn't break, but also that it works as expected ;-) |
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| 18:58.45 | psokolovsky | mr_nice, the best way as usual is to bump PR ... But I myself usually -c rebuild |
| 18:59.30 | mr_nice | psokolovsky: thx |
| 18:59.35 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, I try to figure out why configure task was not run... |
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| 19:00.22 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, well, so can you first check that the svn fetcher patch works as it should? ;-) |
| 19:00.55 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, it works (checks out, and updates). |
| 19:01.08 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, ok, thanks! |
| 19:01.15 | slapin_nb | psokolovsky, I'm testing it in parallel |
| 19:02.05 | psokolovsky | slapin_nb, if you can post that on #1367, that would be appreciated. and I'll ping hrw to commit it today/tomorrow then. |
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| 19:14.42 | sirfred | Hello |
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| 19:27.30 | JustinP | how can I call a function by name in Python? |
| 19:27.44 | JustinP | I'd do $obj->$func() (or $func()) in PHP... |
| 19:28.20 | JustinP | I tried cmd = obj.func cmd(), but this doesn't seem to be working as expected... |
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| 19:37.25 | koen|gprs | re |
| 19:37.36 | psokolovsky | JustinP, you mean, lookup function by name? because functions are first class in python anyway |
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| 19:47.59 | JustinP | psokolovsky: anything that will let me call the function by variable would work |
| 19:48.39 | JustinP | psokolovsky: directly setting (as I would do in C) works with a simple example, but with obects I'm getting strange results. |
| 19:49.07 | JustinP | psokolovsky: I don't know if it's possible to call by name (is it?) something like cmd = "func" cmd() to call func() |
| 19:49.25 | JustinP | (rather, obj.cmd() to call obj.func()) |
| 19:49.42 | JustinP | I did a simple if/elif for now but that's not very elegant |
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| 20:00.42 | hvontres|poodle | I have a question regarding versions in "DEPENDS". Is this still considered good form: DEPENDS = "dbus-0.23.4 ncurses" ? |
| 20:01.12 | hvontres|poodle | aside from the fact that none of the recipies in OE provide dbus-023.4 :) |
| 20:02.34 | JustinP | hmmm...I'm not sure...I know that ipkg supports versions but I don't know how OE/bb support them |
| 20:02.42 | JustinP | aha! getattr(obj, cmd)() |
| 20:03.31 | koen|gprs_ | hvontres|poodle: it "sort of" works |
| 20:06.26 | hvontres|poodle | koen|gprs_: I am trying to fix the gpsd.inc file, so I wanted to know if dbus-xxxx was prefered over just plain dbus and a sane distro |
| 20:06.35 | JustinP | RP: why doesn't the "PCM Volume" control in alsamixer have a mute option? |
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| 20:16.00 | CIA-19 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0e032f99... 10/ (1 packages/pulseaudio/pulseaudio_0.9.5.bb): pulseaudio: make it RPROVIDE esd to really make it a drop-in replacement for esound |
| 20:17.26 | JustinP | so is there a way for is to make that package the one that's *installed* over esd-gpe? I know there's PREFERRED_PROVIDER but that's for building.... |
| 20:17.54 | koen|gprs__ | RREPLACES + RCONFLICTS |
| 20:18.06 | koen|gprs__ | but I'm 200km from my devices to test it |
| 20:18.31 | JustinP | well...that works, but how do you *choose* which one? |
| 20:18.53 | JustinP | i.e. know for sure that ipkg is going to install pulse and not esound? I guess you make pulse the top thing on the list... |
| 20:19.18 | JustinP | that way it's installed and already providing the runtime dep so ipkg won't pull in esound-gpe accidentally |
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| 20:21.19 | JustinP | that's another way to do it |
| 20:21.36 | JustinP | so is pulseaudio better written or just smaller? |
| 20:22.28 | koen|gprs__ | better written and it actually has developers |
| 20:22.38 | JustinP | ah, good stuff ;-) |
| 20:22.46 | JustinP | what do we have that uses esd? |
| 20:22.51 | koen|gprs__ | JustinP: http://0pointer.de/public/pulseaudio-presentation-lca2007.pdf |
| 20:24.26 | hvontres|poodle | koen|gprs__: so is dbus-(version) still ok or should we just use dbus and let the distro make sure it's sane? |
| 20:24.27 | koen|gprs__ | hvontres|poodle: only use dbus-<version> if the app actually needs it |
| 20:24.30 | koen|gprs__ | I'd vote for patching gpsd to use dbus 1.0 api |
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| 20:26.36 | hvontres|poodle | koen|gprs: I just built gpsd 2.34 against dbus-1.02 and it built. now I just need to dust off my gps unit :) I think the 0.23.4 version in the gpsd.inc is leftover from a while back. |
| 20:31.25 | JustinP | koen|gprs: looks nice :-) |
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| 20:31.45 | JustinP | koen|gprs: I wonder if I can make mpd play nice with it |
| 20:33.13 | JustinP | koen|gprs: version I just added in OE has pulseaudio option :-) |
| 20:33.20 | likewise | JustinP: did you solve the mpd problem? |
| 20:33.40 | koen|gprs | likewise: a slight change of plan for tomorrow |
| 20:33.52 | koen|gprs | likewise: let's meet at trafalgar at ~21.30 |
| 20:34.58 | likewise | koen|gprs: ah yes, you told me earlier. |
| 20:35.14 | koen|gprs | I did kinda forget about it |
| 20:35.22 | likewise | koen|gprs: me too. I suppose you have had a meal by then? |
| 20:35.28 | koen|gprs | yes |
| 20:35.52 | likewise | koen|gprs: good. I won't be able to keep my hunger till then probably. |
| 20:38.53 | likewise | koen|gprs: you're welcome at axon, but it getting more hectic by the day due to axon moving next week. |
| 20:39.06 | JustinP | likewise: some of them. mpd itself works fine for me now. |
| 20:39.30 | JustinP | likewise: I'm still getting build problems with mpc, though. Looks like libtool/auto* bugs.... |
| 20:39.37 | koen|gprs | likewise: I'll probably drop by next week |
| 20:40.13 | koen|gprs | likewise: and *fingers crossed* be in eindhoven on sunday with nynke |
| 20:44.47 | likewise | JustinP: you solved the mpd 0.12.1 build? |
| 20:47.12 | JustinP | likewise: the release tarballs still break with autoreconf, but I comitted a svn bb. It builds fine |
| 20:47.38 | JustinP | likewise: so it's 0.12.1+svn20070120 |
| 20:47.44 | zecke | mpd 0.12.1? horror |
| 20:47.48 | JustinP | horror? |
| 20:48.38 | JustinP | strange things is, their autogen.sh works but autoreconf breaks with "AC_DEFINE undefined". However, autoreconf works from that svn date.... |
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| 20:50.47 | JustinP | zecke: care to comment? |
| 20:56.53 | hrw | evening |
| 20:57.18 | likewise | JustinP: http://svn.musicpd.org/log.php?repname=MPD&path=%2Fmpd%2Ftrunk%2Fconfigure.ac&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=0 |
| 20:57.30 | likewise | hrw: good evening, everything fine? |
| 20:57.45 | hrw | likewise: yes, why you ask? |
| 21:01.06 | likewise | hrw: out of interest. |
| 21:01.12 | hrw | Laibsch: http://zaz.air-nifty.com/blog/2007/01/linuxzaurus_1116.html and http://d.hatena.ne.jp/AllStarMoves/20070124/p4 |
| 21:02.18 | hrw | someone bought something from ewayco.com? |
| 21:11.22 | JustinP | likewise: yes? any particular revision you wanted to highlight? |
| 21:12.49 | RP | JustinP: Its possible that particular channel doesn't have a mute I guess. XorA/lrg are the experts ;-) |
| 21:13.52 | JustinP | likewise: yeah, a bunch of patches since the 0.12.1 release... |
| 21:14.11 | JustinP | RP: strange that the main mixer wouldn't be able to mute, though... |
| 21:14.36 | JustinP | XorA|food: any reason why the PCM channel doesn't have a mute switch? (on spitz) |
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| 21:15.28 | likewise | JustinP: Hmm, I can't find the change that would make the build work. I'm stopping that effort and just try it on a device. |
| 21:20.21 | JustinP | likewise: yeah, it's not a worthwhile effort, what's in OE works fine (for me at least) |
| 21:20.40 | JustinP | likewise: are you using mpd as well? |
| 21:20.55 | JustinP | likewise: I don't suppose you have an audio remote..? |
| 21:21.38 | likewise | JustinP: mpd on the EFIKA, I currently use Gnome Music Player Client on my desktop to remote control the efika. |
| 21:22.20 | JustinP | likewise: ah. :-) well, let me know how the mpd in head OE works for you. |
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| 21:22.50 | JustinP | likewise: there are new versions of other things too (such as gmpc) |
| 21:23.06 | JustinP | likewise: and py-libmpdclient is nice :-) I combined that with gizmod and it works very well |
| 21:23.26 | likewise | JustinP: yes, the head oe mpd works fine (now listening to the first song) |
| 21:23.57 | JustinP | cool |
| 21:25.34 | likewise | JustinP: tnx for the effort, I recently fixed mpc but was unable to fix mpd 0.12.1 also |
| 21:26.59 | JustinP | likewise: you fixed mpc? well....it's not building for me.... |
| 21:27.44 | JustinP | likewise: I also checked in a new version |
| 21:27.46 | likewise | JustinP: let me check then. |
| 21:28.10 | JustinP | likewise: I'm getting a preprocessor not sane error from configure |
| 21:28.28 | JustinP | likewise: looks like it's screwing up the creation of the .c file to test it as it has "Syntax Error" on the last line |
| 21:29.20 | JustinP | I'm going to try some .dev builds as well |
| 21:29.31 | likewise | JustinP: ah, I'm on .dev all the time |
| 21:29.48 | likewise | i remember mpc was missing -with-iconv-includes and the URL was broken. |
| 21:29.51 | JustinP | I think it was failing on .dev for me too...just making sure |
| 21:30.20 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: I updated the comment for the gpsd patch on #1806 to reflect the fact that it only removes the version on the dbus dependency. It seems gpsd has been updated to the 1.0 API |
| 21:30.33 | likewise | JustinP: mpc 0.12.0 (.dev) builds fine |
| 21:30.49 | JustinP | ok....trying it myself... |
| 21:31.10 | JustinP | likewise: what distro are you using? |
| 21:31.20 | likewise | JustinP: angstrom |
| 21:31.49 | JustinP | probably a newer toolchain in angstrom that doesn't have the same problem |
| 21:32.17 | JustinP | at least I have an installed version that works fine :-/ |
| 21:32.17 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: and you tested and it works? |
| 21:32.52 | likewise | JustinP: what toolchain/distro are you on? |
| 21:33.17 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: gpsd builds, I need to fix my gps to fully test. I will try it with gpsfake on the way home tonight. |
| 21:33.48 | JustinP | likewise: it works for oz in .dev but not for oz in .oz354x |
| 21:34.02 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: fyi, i don't think gpsd is buildable in it's current state |
| 21:34.24 | hvontres|poodle | in either .dev or .oz354x |
| 21:34.26 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: ok. will try to check it during next few days |
| 21:34.29 | JustinP | likewise: I really ought to start using angstrom to help stabilize it anyway.... |
| 21:34.34 | hvontres|poodle | hrw: thanks :) |
| 21:34.46 | hrw | hvontres|poodle: opie 1.2.3, bitbake 1.6.4, openzaurus 3.5.5 are already on list |
| 21:34.50 | JustinP | hvontres|poodle: I have some updated gpsd bbs around.... |
| 21:35.09 | hvontres|poodle | !oebug 1806 |
| 21:35.10 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1806, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-01-18 22:09 |
| 21:35.11 | cdbot2 | * * hvontres(AT)sbcglobal.net: New Recipie for qpegps 0.9.3 + gpsd updates |
| 21:35.12 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1806 |
| 21:35.39 | JustinP | hvontres|poodle: I had to add some exports for install + compile to work |
| 21:35.51 | hvontres|poodle | JustinP: all I had to fix was removing the version dependace on the dbus dependancy in gpsd.inc |
| 21:36.20 | JustinP | hvontres|poodle: hmmm...strange. I needed to export BUILD_SYS and HOST_SYS |
| 21:36.22 | hvontres|poodle | JustinP: time to file a new "enhancement" bug I guess :) |
| 21:36.31 | JustinP | enhancement? |
| 21:36.51 | hvontres|poodle | JustinP: what version of gpsd were you building? I only tried 2.34 |
| 21:37.13 | JustinP | likewise: yeah, in .oz354x: "configure: error: C preprocessor "arm-linux-gcc -E" fails sanity check" |
| 21:37.56 | JustinP | hvontres|poodle: 2.34.... ah well, I'll try again later |
| 21:38.07 | zecke | who ever upgrades mpd, make sure to include the mod patch! |
| 21:38.10 | JustinP | hvontres|poodle: it only works for me in Angstrom due to binary garmin protocol alignment issues.... |
| 21:38.19 | JustinP | zecke: mod patch? |
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| 21:38.30 | JustinP | zecke: I'll be happy to if you point me to it. Is it not in their SVN? |
| 21:38.49 | hrw | zecke: libmikmod? |
| 21:39.09 | zecke | bug report filed and one in OE |
| 21:39.35 | zecke | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1797 |
| 21:40.38 | zecke | JustinP: and why do you want to upgrade to mpd 0.12.1? for the broken and bad update db feature? :} |
| 21:40.43 | JustinP | zecke: ok, will-do. I updated mpd a day or 2 ago to 0.12.1+svn20070120 (didn't use 0.12.1 as it has autoreconf issues) |
| 21:41.06 | JustinP | zecke: why don't you explain what your problem with the nwer version is |
| 21:41.10 | JustinP | zecke: it's working fine for me.... |
| 21:41.23 | JustinP | zecke: that OE bug asks for a new version.... |
| 21:42.29 | zecke | JustinP: oh sorry. 1.) mod indexing crashes mpd (see our bug report) 2.) mpd --create-db goes OOM on the Shark. This is a regression over 0.10 |
| 21:42.45 | JustinP | zecke: updating the DB is broken in 0.12.1? |
| 21:43.10 | JustinP | hmmm...well, I didn't removethe older versions of mpd so you're welcome to continue to use them |
| 21:43.14 | JustinP | no, wait |
| 21:43.26 | JustinP | according to something I read --create-db is no longer supported |
| 21:43.28 | zecke | JustinP: creating goes OOM (Bus Error), updating doesn't work reliable |
| 21:43.58 | zecke | JustinP: e.g. fails to update new directories (goes OOM as well) but we have not investigated the course of that |
| 21:44.40 | zecke | JustinP: this mod crash is pretty critical for our office :} |
| 21:45.03 | zecke | anyway thanks for updating, will build it for the Shark and debug further... |
| 21:45.15 | JustinP | is it only mods that crash it? I'll try the patch... |
| 21:45.51 | zecke | JustinP: libmikmod has a struct with lets say 10 entries, mpd thinks it has 9 entries and only sets 9 |
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| 21:49.07 | JustinP | zecke: actually, I had to disable mod support in my newest build as it was building against a version of libmikmod that wasn't instaling.....will have to look further into that. |
| 21:50.23 | zecke | JustinP: I hope your version has DEFAULT_PREFERENCE -1 set |
| 21:51.43 | zecke | mod support is fundaemtnal :) |
| 21:52.11 | JustinP | zecke: I didn't push my --disable-mod and no, it doesn't have that as it was working for me... |
| 21:53.13 | zecke | JustinP: it would be interesting why libmikmod dind't install |
| 21:53.49 | JustinP | zecke: the version I set (from SVN) seems to have you patch applied...but without the #if |
| 21:54.45 | JustinP | zecke: I'm going to try looking into it....when I tried to run mpd it wanted a .so.2 but I had .3 |
| 21:54.51 | JustinP | zecke: I lioke mods too :-) |
| 21:55.07 | zecke | :) |
| 21:55.35 | zecke | I'm currently pretty busy, so I didn't had the time to look into the update-db issue (probably really a OOM thing) |
| 21:55.48 | summatusmentis | the openzaurus tree == org.openembedded.oz354x right? |
| 21:55.48 | zecke | currently, I copy new music dir by dir and kill mpd |
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| 21:57.54 | hrw | summatusmentis: right |
| 21:58.02 | summatusmentis | hrw: thanks |
| 21:59.28 | hrw | zecke: let some devices on fosdem play mods using mpd so we will be even able to play OE devel compositions ;D |
| 22:00.29 | zecke | mickey|sports: can you create .mod,.it.xm,.x3m files? |
| 22:00.46 | hrw | zecke: he has some on vanille.de already;) |
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| 22:02.46 | mickeyl | indeed. the major part of my scene music is online |
| 22:02.51 | mickeyl | ah the old days |
| 22:03.01 | mickeyl | *sheds a tear* |
| 22:03.20 | hrw | mickeyl: when 4ch was a lot |
| 22:03.27 | mickeyl | right. and it was enough :) |
| 22:04.08 | hrw | and 2MB limit for module was nothing problematic |
| 22:06.22 | hrw | I had a600 and then a1200 |
| 22:07.22 | likewise | c64, a500, a2000, a4000, pc, pc, pc, pc, pc, pc, pc (the latter really didn't get any better) |
| 22:07.34 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 22:08.01 | likewise | OpenEmbedded to the Amiga. :-) |
| 22:08.08 | likewise | m68k, here we come |
| 22:08.22 | hrw | atari 65xe, a600, a1200, a1200/030, a1200/040, pc/duron, pc/athlonxp, pc/athlon64 |
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| 22:10.44 | summatusmentis | for the newest OZ branch, that's not dev, I want DISTRO = 3.5.4.2 regardless of machine right? |
| 22:11.09 | likewise | good nite ppl, I cannot hold this any longer. all those memories. |
| 22:11.14 | likewise | cu |
| 22:11.48 | hrw | summatusmentis: I will try to remember to push 3.5.5-test distro config during weekend |
| 22:12.03 | hrw | .oz354x will get 3.5.4* configs removed |
| 22:12.25 | summatusmentis | hrw: ok... what does that mean for me right now? I'm setting this up |
| 22:15.20 | summatusmentis | and what do I want DISTRO set to for the most updated stuff? |
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| 22:42.13 | hrw | did someone ordered something from ewayco.com? |
| 22:47.37 | summatusmentis | hrw: will setting DISTRO = openzaurus-3.5.4.2 work on a 3200 for now? |
| 22:49.01 | hrw | yes |
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| 22:50.40 | hrw | ~curse sun for lack of 64bit java plugin |
| 22:50.49 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, sun for lack of 64bit java plugin ! |
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| 22:55.30 | raduga | hi :) |
| 22:56.02 | zecke | hrw: gcj plugin does not work? |
| 22:56.26 | hrw | not in konqeror |
| 22:56.43 | zecke | Helge Deller once posted a patch to work with gcj... hmm |
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| 23:23.23 | hrw | cu |
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| 23:54.22 | rwhitby | mickeyl: does OpenMoko have a concern if I call a distro "MokoSlug" or "MokoServer" ? |
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| 23:55.00 | mickeyl | not at all |
| 23:55.07 | mickeyl | sounds cool |
| 23:55.26 | mickeyl | actually, all the GObject classes for OpenMoko sound like that ;) |
| 23:55.35 | mickeyl | MokoToolBox |
| 23:55.38 | mickeyl | MokoFingerWheel |
| 23:55.39 | mickeyl | ... |
| 23:56.50 | rwhitby | also, I'm booked in to give a presentation at the South Australian Linux User's Group in March - I want to get permission to show Sean's presentation as part of the talk. I'm hoping [;-)] that I can show some hardware at the talk too :-) (http://www.linuxsa.org.au/meetings/) |
| 23:57.10 | rwhitby | mickeyl: is there any other "community LUG presentation" material that I could use? |
| 23:57.59 | mickeyl | for OE or OpenMoko? |
| 23:58.17 | mickeyl | everything we have for OE should be in the wiki under "Papers & Presentations" |
| 23:58.32 | mickeyl | for OpenMoko we don't have anything else yet except the Amsterdam presentation and the announcement |
| 23:58.50 | mickeyl | and some minor tidbits on the mailing list when we were forced to correct things |
| 23:58.50 | mickeyl | heh |