| 00:00.59 | JustinP | I just found that too ;-) |
| 00:01.06 | JustinP | PRAISE THE PENGUIN! |
| 00:01.11 | JustinP | I'm getting different keys |
| 00:04.18 | furlongm | v8klene: thanks, gotta find out now why it's not installing.. |
| 00:04.31 | furlongm | v8jlene: thanks, gotta find out now why it's not installing.. |
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| 00:15.46 | JustinP | 3/7 buttons working, woo! |
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| 01:32.45 | summatusmentis | where are the ipks stored once I compile a package? |
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| 01:51.22 | furlongm | summatusmentis: tmp/deploy/ipk ? |
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| 02:32.39 | Crofton|home | summatusmentis, look in tmp/deploy |
| 02:37.27 | summatusmentis | Crofton|home: thanks |
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| 03:50.05 | JustinP | ugh |
| 03:50.43 | JustinP | looking at this damn code reminds me of Eternal Darkness.....I can feel my sanity meter dropping |
| 03:51.09 | JustinP | how could anyone think this was ok? |
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| 04:20.00 | JustinP | RP: around? |
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| 07:27.26 | JustinP | anyone around who understands SITE files? |
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| 08:44.14 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:51.56 | hrw | morning |
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| 09:07.31 | hrw | JustinP, XorA: so it looks like we will have remotes working? |
| 09:07.54 | hrw | JustinP: site files - what you want to know? |
| 09:08.34 | hrw | did someone here use(d) Samsung 205BW monitor? 20" LCD widescreen 1680x1050 |
| 09:12.57 | JustinP | hrw: yes, the remote now gives me different values for all buttons. Still not sure how the hell to listen to it.... |
| 09:13.19 | JustinP | hrw: I was trying to figure out what to add to a site file to use a cached value for a python config....but ha dno luck |
| 09:13.51 | ArjanS | hrw: I have the 205bw |
| 09:13.59 | hrw | JustinP: which python config? |
| 09:14.05 | JustinP | I think I need some kernel hacker help again now...I get 1-6 but it doesn't show up as keyboard events...even though 1-6 are output |
| 09:14.21 | hrw | ArjanS: does it worth attention? |
| 09:14.23 | JustinP | hrw: it was looking for Python.h I think |
| 09:14.49 | hrw | JustinP: then ship proper paths to configure/setup.py or patch makefiles |
| 09:14.50 | ArjanS | hrw: I think it's great, if that's what you mean :) |
| 09:16.43 | hrw | ArjanS: I can get one quite cheap tomorrow (999pln) and was thinking about something not with TN screen but for 1600+ pln |
| 09:18.02 | JustinP | hrw: too tired to explain, see http://pastebin.ca/320326 |
| 09:18.17 | JustinP | hrw: I got it compiled locally for now |
| 09:18.22 | ArjanS | hrw: what's the price? |
| 09:18.33 | ArjanS | (I mean in euros or dollars) |
| 09:18.47 | hrw | ~change 999 pln to eur |
| 09:19.07 | XorA | JustinP: cool |
| 09:19.19 | hrw | JustinP: will try |
| 09:19.21 | ArjanS | allright, thats quite cheap indeed, I paid 306 euros for it two months ago |
| 09:19.44 | hrw | JustinP: inherit distutils if it is python |
| 09:19.58 | ArjanS | hrw: it still costs 289,90 euros here |
| 09:20.02 | koen | good morning all |
| 09:20.26 | ArjanS | hrw: but anyway, the resolution and sharpness and colors are great |
| 09:20.52 | JustinP | XorA: will put up my driver....soon ;-) |
| 09:21.05 | JustinP | XorA: still doing on-device tests to see if I can get extended keycodes to work |
| 09:21.14 | JustinP | hrw: no... |
| 09:21.25 | RP | JustinP: I'm around now |
| 09:21.30 | RP | morning all |
| 09:21.42 | JustinP | http://pastebin.ca/320327 |
| 09:22.11 | hrw | JustinP: which ver it is? |
| 09:22.11 | JustinP | that's for hrw |
| 09:22.11 | JustinP | ver of? |
| 09:22.11 | JustinP | oh, sorry ;-) |
| 09:22.11 | JustinP | 2.3 |
| 09:22.39 | hrw | hi RP |
| 09:22.45 | JustinP | RP: XorA just let me know that he got the remote working previously. I took his suggestions and I have the driver giving me unique codes for each key |
| 09:23.24 | JustinP | RP: working on making it output semi-correct keys at least, then will post it and start cleaning up the cruft |
| 09:24.10 | RP | JustinP: Sounds good :) |
| 09:24.37 | JustinP | ok....I can't make it output anything but 1-7 |
| 09:24.42 | JustinP | I'll post my diff |
| 09:25.21 | hrw | JustinP: you forgot 'inherit autotools' |
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| 09:26.06 | JustinP | hrw: ummm....no |
| 09:26.11 | JustinP | hrw: inherit autotools distutils in my latest |
| 09:26.25 | JustinP | sorry, my paste was missing that line |
| 09:27.11 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:27.27 | hrw | JustinP: you need xmms support in it? |
| 09:28.21 | JustinP | hrw: not necessarily, I tried disabling that as well |
| 09:29.01 | hrw | JustinP: looks like configure.ac will need to be patched |
| 09:29.33 | JustinP | fun |
| 09:29.49 | JustinP | you mean to remove the xmms stuff? |
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| 09:30.28 | hrw | yes |
| 09:30.42 | hrw | or rather add xmms to deps ;( |
| 09:31.17 | hrw | or another file to kill.. |
| 09:31.48 | XorA | or patch the xmms macro into acinclude.m4 |
| 09:32.43 | JustinP | RP, XorA: http://oe.reversefold.com/sharpsl-rc/sharpsl-rc.patch |
| 09:32.51 | hrw | XorA: ok |
| 09:32.52 | hrw | or |
| 09:33.27 | hrw | JustinP: you have to decide which plugins you need to build |
| 09:33.40 | JustinP | RP: the sharpsl_rc_keycode currently has KEY_0 - KEY_9 in it and this works (I get 1-7 output) but if I try the list above it I get nothing at all. |
| 09:33.47 | JustinP | hrw: one sec |
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| 09:35.07 | JustinP | hrw: here's a version with a disbling xmms patch |
| 09:35.57 | JustinP | RP: I know it needs lots of cleanup, especially to remove all of the unneeded defines and such, but I'd like to just get it working as it is first.... |
| 09:36.44 | XorA | JustinP: cool, I shall try that this evening if I get a chance |
| 09:36.52 | XorA | JustinP: I think c7x0 support will be easy as well |
| 09:37.07 | JustinP | XorA: hopefully :-) |
| 09:37.28 | JustinP | XorA: I had to change the hi/lows to make it work but your fixes were what gave me the values finally |
| 09:37.32 | JustinP | XorA: much more solid than 2.4 |
| 09:37.49 | XorA | your remote doesnt fit inside the 2.4 values? |
| 09:37.56 | JustinP | now if I could make it do something other than output 1-6.... |
| 09:37.58 | JustinP | no, it didn't |
| 09:38.14 | JustinP | I got 3 #'s output without changing |
| 09:38.22 | JustinP | the other 4 I had to alter the threshholds a bit |
| 09:38.35 | XorA | wierd, mine was exactly inside the ranges |
| 09:38.39 | JustinP | (and add code for MUTE which seemed to be missing...) |
| 09:39.11 | JustinP | heh....I may still be using some old code in there too |
| 09:39.47 | JustinP | then again maybe not...I don't know, I'm tired |
| 09:41.08 | hrw | JustinP: let remote output any keycodes other then internal keyboard. rest will be keymap/xmodmap work |
| 09:42.06 | JustinP | hrw: it didn't seem to be doing anything when I did that, though |
| 09:42.27 | JustinP | hrw: see sharpsl_rc_keycode. The top commented out bit it my attempt at sending "correct" keycodes |
| 09:43.15 | JustinP | I get nothing if I do that (tried with showkey). But if I set it to KEY_0 through KEY_9, as it is now, I see it on terminal and in showkey |
| 09:43.57 | JustinP | I tried scancodes, too...it just did nothing |
| 09:44.03 | XorA | JustinP: yeah, we can look at that later, I think they should make the keycodes assigned to the multimedia controls on fancy keyboards |
| 09:44.42 | JustinP | XorA: that's what I tried to do, the commented out bit before the list of KEY_0-9 is that |
| 09:46.51 | hrw | shit. compiler badness |
| 09:47.18 | JustinP | as far as I can see, the keycode array is set to the input dev and must be used internally |
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| 09:52.56 | RP | JustinP: Note that Xora was able to get it going using the standard max1111 function |
| 09:53.02 | JustinP | yeah, I see the same printk output so the right keys are being pressed but nothing comes out of the input module |
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| 09:53.14 | JustinP | RP: ? |
| 09:54.00 | RP | JustinP: You shouldn't need ssp_get_max1111_val() defined in the driver, the standard one should work (and won't break locking) |
| 09:54.07 | JustinP | ok |
| 09:55.15 | RP | JustinP: You might get a bit more stablity using the standard function, I'm not sure |
| 09:55.35 | _law_ | hrw, does xmms work with angstrom? i thought there was a gtk/gdk problem |
| 09:56.03 | JustinP | RP: #include <asm/sharpsl.h>? |
| 09:56.04 | XorA | RP: my values certainly looked rock solid stability wise |
| 09:56.06 | hrw | _law_: no idea - my angstrom device lack x11 now |
| 09:56.16 | JustinP | mine are more solid than 2.4 |
| 09:56.29 | XorA | RP: only the first value was off, but seeing as we have just moved the pullup thats understandable |
| 10:00.33 | JustinP | it was probably just one of the things I was trying |
| 10:02.09 | hrw | NOTE: package xfce-mcs-plugins-4.3.99.2-r0: task do_compile: completed |
| 10:02.10 | hrw | uf |
| 10:03.59 | JustinP | RP: it can't find symbol sharpsl_pm_pxa_read_max1111.... |
| 10:04.32 | hrw | 17 22:51 < koen> now my internet connection is back up, I forgot what I wanted to commit |
| 10:04.44 | pb__ | RP: so, I have another strange circular dependency thing. |
| 10:04.51 | hrw | koen: I do commits when have them ready - inet connection is for syncing |
| 10:05.13 | pb__ | this time, bitbake seems to be trying to build two versions of glibc simultaneously; I get stuff like: |
| 10:05.13 | pb__ | ERROR: Task 38 (/home/pb/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc_2.5.bb, do_install) (depends: Set([37])) |
| 10:05.14 | pb__ | ERROR: Task 42 (/home/pb/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc_2.5.bb, do_package) (depends: Set([33, 194, 38, 203, 15, 176, 212, 185, 24, 52, 61])) |
| 10:05.14 | pb__ | ERROR: Task 223 (/home/pb/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb, do_package_write) (depends: Set([176, 42, 221])) |
| 10:05.15 | pb__ | ERROR: Task 222 (/home/pb/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb, do_populate_staging) (depends: Set([223])) |
| 10:05.17 | koen | hrw: I needed a cset that ws not in my db :( |
| 10:05.30 | hrw | koen: ah. |
| 10:06.40 | JustinP | XorA: I see sharpsl_pm_pxa_read_max1111 in sharpsl.h and sharpsl_pm.c but it's not linking....perhaps just including asm/arch-pxa/sharpsl.h is not enough? |
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| 10:08.11 | XorA | JustinP: I think you are confused, the change between 2.4/2.6 is the ssp_get_max111 function |
| 10:08.40 | XorA | JustinP: it was _val that is commented out in your driver, _get calls the proper version |
| 10:08.57 | XorA | corgi_ssp_max1111_get sorry |
| 10:10.18 | JustinP | XorA: sorry, so I should be using corgi_ssp_max1111_get, right? |
| 10:10.42 | JustinP | as the patch already is? |
| 10:11.27 | JustinP | there is a lot of commented out code in there, yeah |
| 10:11.44 | JustinP | ok, well let me know if you guys have any revisions |
| 10:12.22 | JustinP | comments here or e-mails are ok (papercrane@reversefold.com). I'd be happy to implement and test any suggestions. I'm too tired to continue tonight, after 2AM |
| 10:13.30 | JustinP | XorA: thanks for the help, I feel much better about this driver now :-) |
| 10:15.01 | XorA | JustinP: no probs, I got lucky and someone donated a remote to OZ |
| 10:15.11 | XorA | JustinP: Ive just had a hecktik life |
| 10:19.25 | hrw | xfce-image progressing |
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| 10:26.11 | hrw | hi florian |
| 10:26.35 | florian | good morning |
| 10:27.14 | hrw | I'm thiinking about moving xfce stuff to packages/xfce/ |
| 10:27.30 | hrw | or xfce-lib xfce-app |
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| 10:39.57 | RP | JustinP: You'll need to find the header with that in (and/or add it to a header). The function itself is in arch/arm/mach-pxa/corgi_ssp.c |
| 10:41.11 | RP | pb__: Trying to build two glibcs would certainly confuse it. I wonder why its trying to do that? |
| 10:42.21 | hrw | RP: did you got spam from |
| 10:42.24 | hrw | "Karin Cruz"? |
| 10:42.44 | hrw | from: |
| 10:42.47 | hrw | ops.. |
| 10:43.40 | RP | hrw: I wasn't aware of any? |
| 10:43.53 | hrw | from Karin Cruz <email> to: brittney moore <koen@oe> cc: devin <rpurdie@oe>, johnette bell <hrw@oe>, zachariah boyd <florian@oe> |
| 10:43.56 | hrw | :D |
| 10:44.07 | RP | ah :) |
| 10:44.11 | florian | :-) |
| 10:44.47 | hrw | another email address filled with spam |
| 10:46.03 | RP | I get thousands of spam emails :-( |
| 10:46.30 | RP | 30,000+ since mid November :-/ |
| 10:47.19 | hrw | i do not count |
| 10:47.27 | hrw | one day i got 70MB of spam |
| 10:48.15 | RP | I don't count, I can see the number of mails in the spam folders though... |
| 10:48.29 | hrw | I clean them |
| 10:49.00 | hrw | after taking Sean/openmoko and Psokolowsky emails from it |
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| 10:54.35 | pb__ | RP: yeah, it's a bit odd. I've just started a "bitbake glibc" in a clean tmp directory and I'll see what it does. |
| 10:56.14 | RP | pb__: At a guess some of the PREFERRED logic could be set incorrectly causing it to mix its versions up. The relationships between glibc-initial, glibc-intermediate and glibc still confuse me ;-) |
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| 11:02.20 | pb__ | RP: yah, that was my suspicion too. I am on x86 with nptl, so it will be using the five-stage toolchain bootstrap rather than the four-stage one that you get on non nptl platforms. |
| 11:03.02 | pb__ | I have to go to a meeting now but I'll look at it again this afternoon. |
| 11:06.31 | hrw | cu |
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| 11:06.36 | hrw | need to do some papers |
| 11:06.38 | CIA-19 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd6e4205b... 10/ (1 packages/xfdesktop/xfdesktop.inc): xfdesktop: added xfce4-panel into DEPENDS - needed by xfce 4.4-rc2 |
| 11:07.23 | CIA-19 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r85bed711... 10/ (1 packages/ezx/opentapi_svn.bb): opentapi: start right after udev to prevent BP powering off the phone |
| 11:07.39 | v8jlene | RP: If you run your own mail server then the greylisting stuff seems to work rather well. I've pushed postgrey out to a lot of sites with no trouble and with a pretty constant 90-95% spam reduction. |
| 11:08.36 | RP | v8jlene: I have been trialing that for some of the problem addresses :). I guess its time to make it more widespread ;-) |
| 11:09.35 | v8jlene | RP: I get around 10k spam a week if I remove all my filters - that's pretty impossible... I was getting around 150 a week past the spam filters to I put in postgrey... now around 2 a week. |
| 11:09.46 | v8jlene | to? till... |
| 11:10.29 | koen | is postgrey in OE? |
| 11:11.07 | koen | I noticed [cc]smart added some RBLs to the default postfix config in OE |
| 11:11.07 | RP | For my sins, the mailserver runs sendmail :) |
| 11:11.34 | v8jlene | no postgrey in OE - it's pretty much a single perl file and an associated init script... should be easy to add. |
| 11:13.07 | v8jlene | sendmail... arghh... better than qmail I suppose... I used sendmail for years, went to qmail, back to sendmail then to postfix... and I'm not going back! |
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| 11:45.02 | pb__ | RP: one odd thing is that bitbake says "preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available" but then goes on to build it. |
| 11:45.20 | XorA | pb__: that is normal, everyone gets that |
| 11:45.29 | pb__ | oh, really? |
| 11:45.34 | pb__ | I wonder why it does that |
| 11:51.18 | RP | pb__: The new code has to compute all possible providers in advance. That message comes from when it computes one of those providers (I think it computes providers of glibc-intermediate which glibc version 2.5 is not available for but 2.3.5 is or something like that) |
| 11:52.28 | pb__ | hm, that sounds a bit odd. glibc-intermediate is its own .bb file, not a provided thing. |
| 11:53.24 | RP | pb__: It might be some other bit of glibc then. I know it does that when the 2.5 version doesn't provide something a lower version does and it warns the PREFERRED_VERSION wouldn't be honoured in that case |
| 11:53.35 | pb__ | okay |
| 11:53.38 | pb__ | might be glibc-for-gcc, I guess |
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| 11:53.56 | RP | That sounds familiar... |
| 11:54.45 | RP | A better message would be preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available for glibc-for-gcc (or whatever)... |
| 11:54.59 | pb__ | yeah |
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| 11:58.27 | lrg | morning all |
| 11:58.40 | koen | hey Liam |
| 11:58.40 | XorA | hey lrg |
| 11:59.05 | RP | hi Liam |
| 11:59.47 | lrg | anyone made travel arrangements for FOSDEM yet ? |
| 12:00.38 | RP | pb__: Reading the code, there is something in there which is already supposed to print that, its just not working for some reason... |
| 12:00.45 | pb__ | hi lrg |
| 12:01.04 | koen | lrg: I booked the hotel, but not the train |
| 12:01.31 | koen | RP: did you see the thread on LAK about pxa pcmcia timings and microdrives? |
| 12:01.49 | RP | koen: I did. Sounds interesting, I'm happy to have any speedup :) |
| 12:01.51 | koen | RP: could be a boot for the md based zauri |
| 12:01.58 | koen | s/boot/boost/ |
| 12:01.59 | lrg | koen: I'll try and book astrid next week, and fly bmi via edinburgh. I also need to speak with thomas at OH |
| 12:02.53 | RP | lrg: OH's travel plans are being worked on atm... |
| 12:03.06 | lrg | RP: cool |
| 12:03.30 | lrg | RP: i'll try for same flight as thomas and share taxi |
| 12:03.51 | RP | lrg: Sounds good :) |
| 12:13.33 | hrw | re |
| 12:15.33 | RP | pb__: trunk should have code to print a better error message and at least in poky it prints something more helpful. I'm not sure why it isn't in your case... |
| 12:16.13 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:16.21 | chouimat | LOL www.dilbert.com |
| 12:22.01 | Crofton | gm |
| 12:28.52 | sza2 | hi. many of the packages want to create files/directories in my /usr/... and thus fails to cpmpile. is it right? |
| 12:29.04 | hrw | many? |
| 12:29.32 | hrw | sza2: examples please |
| 12:31.02 | sza2 | hrw: ok. i will pastebin. |
| 12:35.44 | sza2 | hrw: http://pastebin.ca/320400 |
| 12:38.20 | hrw | sza2: report bug |
| 12:41.14 | sza2 | hrw: but there are (not many, but) a few (10+) packages appears to the same. can it caused by my missconfigured env? |
| 12:42.25 | koen | report bugs |
| 12:42.50 | koen | hrw: moving xf* into packages/xfce is a good idea IMO |
| 12:42.52 | sza2 | i never did it. how can i do? |
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| 12:43.22 | koen | go to http://bugs.openembedded.org |
| 12:43.31 | sza2 | ok. thx. |
| 12:43.42 | hrw | koen: there will be few more there |
| 12:44.59 | koen | hrw: NOTE: package xfce-mcs-plugins-4.3.99.2-r0: task do_compile: failed |
| 12:45.11 | koen | mouse_plugin fails to compile :( |
| 12:47.14 | hrw | koen: update |
| 12:47.26 | hrw | xfce-mcs-manager r1 fixed this |
| 12:47.38 | hrw | koen: you got crosscompilebadness? |
| 12:47.47 | koen | mtn: already up to date at 9fe9a470e8cfa880013396a6f2a002fa10153dd0 |
| 12:48.00 | hrw | koen: how it fails? |
| 12:48.01 | koen | hrw: no, just a compile error about missing defines |
| 12:48.14 | hrw | which one? |
| 12:48.23 | koen | | mouse_plugin.c: In function 'create_accessx_page':| mouse_plugin.c:258: error: 'Itf' has no member named 'checkbutton_mouse' |
| 12:48.24 | hrw | pastebin |
| 12:48.36 | hrw | works for me |
| 12:48.50 | koen | http://rafb.net/p/ieCxXa28.html |
| 12:49.02 | koen | did you commit r1? |
| 12:50.09 | koen | XorA, _law_: could you comment on http://bugs.linuxtogo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27 ? |
| 12:51.18 | florian | pb__, you should create an account there :-) |
| 12:52.03 | XorA | koen: not really, my Billionton card is refusing to work |
| 12:52.42 | hrw | 18 11:08 < CIA-19> hrw org.oe.dev * reb0e1154... / (1 packages/xfce-mcs-manager/xfce-mcs-manager.inc): xfce-mcs-manager: mangle pkgconfig a bit during staging to get proper includedir - fix compiler badness |
| 12:52.53 | hrw | koen: this one |
| 12:57.31 | _law_ | koen, ok |
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| 12:59.21 | Crofton | any cppunit gurus here? |
| 13:00.05 | _law_ | koen, bluez-gnome taskbar-applet-icon doesnt work in gpe. hicolor-theme is reuqired, but i have installed this, dont help... |
| 13:01.49 | koen | RP, mickey|zzZZzz: http://rafb.net/p/Vk5MJg72.html |
| 13:06.26 | greentux | hi lrg |
| 13:06.44 | greentux | lrg: hotel and flights are booked ;) |
| 13:10.57 | _law_ | koen, done |
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| 13:56.26 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
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| 13:57.46 | koen | hey mickeyl |
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| 13:59.56 | mickeyl | morning gusy |
| 13:59.59 | mickeyl | guys, even |
| 14:00.33 | koen | mickeyl: how's mokotosa doing? |
| 14:00.50 | mickeyl | built. copying on the SD to flash as we speak... |
| 14:00.54 | koen | I bet the orange mud fits well with the theme ;) |
| 14:01.03 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 14:01.10 | mickeyl | can't wait to see those huge buttons |
| 14:01.50 | hrw | atleast on tosa you will get proper DPI setting ;) |
| 14:02.34 | pb__ | hi mickeyl |
| 14:02.41 | mickeyl | morning pb_ |
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| 14:03.25 | koen | mickeyl: I wonder how much gtk+ gurus will help out on the mokostack |
| 14:03.43 | pb__ | RP: mm, odd. |
| 14:04.07 | pb__ | RP: could you try a MACHINE=epia DISTRO=generic build for yourself and see what happens? |
| 14:04.22 | mickeyl | koen: when they feel the slowness, they will either quit or get cranking :D |
| 14:05.10 | mickeyl | hmmm my SD is broken |
| 14:05.22 | mickeyl | the reader apparantly |
| 14:05.32 | mickeyl | guess that's what i get for not using it for 2 years or so |
| 14:06.57 | Crofton|home | cppunit creates a cppunit-config file that another configure script uses to work out paths for compile/link |
| 14:07.36 | Crofton|home | I need to find this information so I can use at at build time |
| 14:08.16 | hrw | Crofton|home: does cppunit inherit binconfig? |
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| 14:08.33 | Crofton|home | only autotools |
| 14:08.53 | Crofton|home | it also does not stage cppunit-config |
| 14:09.06 | Crofton|home | I'm thinking I shold try auto staging it |
| 14:09.09 | Crofton|home | also |
| 14:09.39 | hrw | Crofton|home: binconfig will do it for you |
| 14:10.00 | Crofton|home | shoudl I also try using the auto stage? |
| 14:10.49 | hrw | thats job for binconfig.bbclass - it mangle *-config to fix all paths |
| 14:11.00 | Crofton|home | yes |
| 14:11.11 | Crofton|home | but the do_stage needs work also |
| 14:11.20 | Crofton|home | binconfig mangles paths |
| 14:11.32 | Crofton|home | do_stage still needs to put it somewhere |
| 14:12.19 | Crofton|home | ah |
| 14:12.23 | Crofton|home | OK, now I get it |
| 14:12.35 | Crofton|home | binconfig handles staging of cppunit-config |
| 14:15.28 | hrw | yes |
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| 14:18.06 | Crofton|home | hrw, thanks for the tip, testing now |
| 14:18.11 | Crofton|home | I'll push if succesful |
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| 14:31.07 | pb__ | mickeyl: where's x86.conf meant to be included from? |
| 14:31.21 | pb__ | is there some clever mechanism that makes it happen automatically, or am I supposed to manually call it in from MACHINE.conf? |
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| 14:33.11 | mickeyl | MACHINE = "x86" |
| 14:33.40 | pb__ | ah right |
| 14:33.50 | pb__ | so if I'm using MACHINE=epia, I ought to be including x86.conf from inside epia.conf? |
| 14:34.10 | mickeyl | yes |
| 14:34.15 | mickeyl | x86 is one of those confs that can be used directly |
| 14:34.17 | mickeyl | or indirectly |
| 14:34.20 | pb__ | thanks |
| 14:34.23 | mickeyl | np |
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| 14:50.43 | koen | mickeyl: http://blogs.gnome.org/view/johan/2007/01/18/0 |
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| 15:06.00 | mickeyl | koen: old news ;) |
| 15:06.05 | mickeyl | http://people.via.ecp.fr/~clem/nist/doxydoc/allOpie/noncore_2tools_2pyquicklauncher_2main_8cpp-source.html |
| 15:06.23 | mickeyl | i did that in 2004 for Opie :9 |
| 15:06.34 | koen | and in 2007 for openmoko? |
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| 15:06.41 | mickeyl | hopefully |
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| 15:14.50 | Crofton|home | how do I get monotone-viz to only show a few weeks of revs, entering dates wont let me continue |
| 15:18.50 | _law_ | bbl |
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| 15:25.25 | hrw | cu |
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| 15:52.44 | pb__ | RP: it looks like my glibc problem was caused by a missing definition of GLIBC_ADDONS in my configuration. This leads to bizarre results because different versions of glibc have different defaults for that setting, so bitbake ends up trying to build glibc 2.5 for nptl using regular 2.3.5 with linuxthreads as libc-for-gcc. |
| 15:55.34 | RP | pb__: ah, that explains it. I remember we had to insert that into the qemux86.conf file. Is there a way we can give that variable some sane defaults to x86 just works properly? |
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| 15:55.51 | RP | hi zecke |
| 15:56.01 | zecke | *hey* |
| 15:56.07 | koen | hey zecke |
| 15:56.25 | zecke | the new office rocks, I have at least one ARM machine per room |
| 15:56.34 | Crofton|home | new office? |
| 15:56.53 | zecke | NSLu2 in hardware lab, each room one shark for mpd, several delta dvb-h devices on each table :) |
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| 15:57.18 | zecke | Crofton|home: office, where I sit and do crazy dvb-h stuff and call it research |
| 15:57.28 | Crofton|home | call |
| 15:58.00 | Crofton|home | you doing real signal processing? |
| 15:58.30 | zecke | no, I'm a software dude ;) |
| 15:58.42 | Crofton|home | software defined radio :) |
| 15:58.57 | zecke | modulation and signal processing is on my agenda for this year (figuring out what this stuff is actually doing) |
| 15:59.01 | zecke | Crofton|home: on my todo ;) |
| 15:59.06 | Crofton|home | cool |
| 15:59.13 | Crofton|home | I added fftw to OE :) |
| 15:59.24 | zecke | the fast fourier lib? |
| 15:59.25 | Crofton|home | compiled, not tested |
| 15:59.27 | Crofton|home | yeah |
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| 16:02.26 | zecke | Crofton|home: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/142/351741863_78eb982eb6.jpg?v=0 our racks |
| 16:02.31 | koen | zecke: http://lists.openezx.org/pipermail/openezx-devel/2007-January/001005.html |
| 16:02.43 | joshin | Nice rack! |
| 16:03.34 | Crofton|home | submit that to ratemyrack :) |
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| 16:06.36 | caprifischer | hi |
| 16:07.46 | pb__ | RP: yeah, probably. The easiest solution, if perhaps not the most elegant, is probably to set it in bitbake.conf with a default based on TARGET_ARCH. |
| 16:08.27 | caprifischer | i managed to compile a kernel-module for sdio-support, but it seems like the busdriver needs compiled-in pnp drivers. how do i set this config-setting for my c7x0-configuration of openembedded-unstable? |
| 16:08.27 | pb__ | hi zecke |
| 16:08.27 | koen | caprifischer: iirc an extra patch was needed for that |
| 16:09.03 | caprifischer | koen: where can i find this patch? |
| 16:10.46 | koen | caprifischer: probably at the same MV site, it was mentioned in their readme |
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| 16:13.05 | caprifischer | koen: which "MV site"? sorry, i don't get it ;) |
| 16:13.15 | hrw | re |
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| 16:20.09 | hrw | NAiL: good guess |
| 16:20.16 | caprifischer | ou |
| 16:20.18 | caprifischer | ;) |
| 16:20.23 | caprifischer | boing |
| 16:21.42 | caprifischer | mh, i applied all patches from the mv-site |
| 16:22.21 | caprifischer | but it seems that there is no pnp-support in the standard-c7x0 config (?) |
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| 16:34.12 | caprifischer | There is one caveat for the 2.6.18 patches. The SDIO stack uses the |
| 16:34.15 | caprifischer | plug and play driver, which has be re-enabled in the 2.6.18 patches. |
| 16:34.32 | caprifischer | mh, seems like this is the part which does not work ;) |
| 16:34.43 | caprifischer | args |
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| 16:38.32 | Crofton | cia out to lunch again? |
| 16:42.06 | hrw | nasty bitch |
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| 16:44.27 | XorA | caprifischer: can you not just alter the defconfig to enable pnp |
| 16:44.28 | caprifischer | XorA: yes, i can. but then the pnp-compile runs into errors |
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| 16:45.26 | XorA | caprifischer: thats a pain |
| 16:45.42 | caprifischer | indeed |
| 16:46.15 | XorA | caprifischer: I guess it doesnt get used much on arm platforms |
| 16:47.28 | caprifischer | more than ever it's extra pain, if you have an wifi-sdio cart for the zaurus and it doesn't work ,) |
| 16:48.13 | caprifischer | does somebody know which kernel-versions do yet support pnp? |
| 16:48.13 | XorA | caprifischer: well hopefully you are a genius and peice all the puzzle together |
| 16:48.22 | caprifischer | hopefully ;) |
| 16:48.39 | XorA | those cheapo cards on ebay are tempting |
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| 17:00.10 | CIA-19 | 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r16141cfb... 10/ (1 packages/cppunit/cppunit_1.10.2.bb): cppunit_1.10.2.bb : Generate cppunit-config properly. |
| 17:00.19 | CIA-19 | 03pb 07org.oe.dev * r7022b2fb... 10/ (1 conf/machine/epia.conf): epia.conf: include x86.conf for GLIBC_ADDONS et al. |
| 17:00.31 | CIA-19 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9fe9a470... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/task-angstrom-x11.bb): task-angstrom-x11: ship bluez-gnome for device with bluetooth, since gpe-bluetooth doesn't provide a pass-agent that works with a recent bluez |
| 17:00.44 | CIA-19 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc77de7a0... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xfce-utils: fix packaging |
| 17:02.59 | hrw | lets flash c760 |
| 17:03.15 | hrw | I do not remember when I did it last time |
| 17:04.26 | koen | hrw: xfce-image? |
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| 17:05.04 | hrw | no, opie |
| 17:05.23 | hrw | xfce was built for progear which does not have x11 running yet |
| 17:05.58 | hrw | I will have to run xorg not kdrive on it |
| 17:06.17 | hrw | or combine kdrive with xorg ts driver |
| 17:07.24 | koen | hrw: pb_(_) added a xorg-modules.bblclass, maybe your ts driver can use that? |
| 17:07.31 | koen | (or port it to tslib, even better) |
| 17:08.04 | hrw | koen: xf86-driver-microtouch is already in OE |
| 17:09.29 | koen | hrw: next cset is for you |
| 17:09.36 | hrw | ok |
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| 17:10.05 | CIA-19 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r062ebbe4... 10/ (1 packages/images/xfce-image.bb): xfce-image: allow machine and distro to override the preferred xserver via ${XSERVER} in the other X based images |
| 17:10.28 | hrw | ;D |
| 17:10.40 | hrw | speaking of it... |
| 17:10.53 | hrw | we lack some machine_ vars probably |
| 17:14.04 | koen | ERROR: No buildable providers available for required build target xf86-input-microtouch |
| 17:14.13 | koen | I'd want bitbake to be a bit more verbose on that |
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| 17:15.32 | hrw | -D |
| 17:18.30 | zecke | koen: we all want that :} |
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| 17:20.27 | CIA-19 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r30c4d871... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xorg-xserver-common.inc): xorg-xserver-common.inc: libx11 -> virtual/libx11 |
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| 17:30.47 | zecke | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/144/361688302_61fab5c82e_b.jpg |
| 17:31.00 | zecke | I feel like rms |
| 17:31.07 | koen | heh |
| 17:31.37 | koen | CIMG0226.JPG is a lot nicer, though |
| 17:32.07 | hrw | zecke: sleeping at work? |
| 17:32.17 | zecke | that is my shark :) |
| 17:32.49 | zecke | koen: I need to polish some stuff but my shark works wonderfully |
| 17:32.56 | CIA-19 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r64d4094f... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): libqtaux2: update to 1.2.2, drop CVS version |
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| 17:33.15 | koen | zecke: OE or gent00? |
| 17:33.15 | zecke | hrw: actually this was a faked, I sleep on the bare floor in a friends apartment near by... |
| 17:33.40 | zecke | koen: I tried gentoo again, but kicked it out |
| 17:34.03 | zecke | koen: I will try the angstrom upgrade later this week (but the shark has mpd running) |
| 17:34.12 | zecke | ~seen rwhitby |
| 17:34.41 | ibot | rwhitby <n=rwhitby@nslu2-linux/rwhitby> was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-linux, 15h 20m 20s ago, saying: 'hey VoodooZ '. |
| 17:34.42 | koen | zecke: angstrom-2007.1-oabi |
| 17:34.45 | zecke | koen: why oabi? |
| 17:34.46 | zecke | koen: koen> zecke: angstrom-2007.1-oabi |
| 17:34.59 | zecke | ~fishslap zecke |
| 17:35.13 | ibot | ACTION slaps zecke up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:35.14 | koen | zecke: strongarm doesn't get 'BX' |
| 17:35.23 | zecke | hrw: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/361695587_80b177942e_b.jpg I'm sleeping at the spot I'm sitting... |
| 17:35.34 | zecke | koen: I thoough lennert fixed it? |
| 17:35.48 | koen | zecke: lennert uses armv4t |
| 17:35.51 | koen | not armv4 |
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| 17:44.05 | zecke | later |
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| 18:11.57 | NAiL | morning likewise |
| 18:12.04 | likewise | NAiL: morning |
| 18:12.09 | JustinP | RP: I don't understand what you mean. That file has corgi_ssp_max1111_get exported and that's the function I'm using.... |
| 18:12.28 | JustinP | I'll do some cleanup on the patch... |
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| 18:47.48 | JustinP | RP: the patch is a little more cleaned up, perhaps this will remove the confusion... |
| 18:48.14 | JustinP | XorA: do you know what RP was talking about? It looks like I'm using the right function to me.... |
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| 18:55.23 | sirfred | Hello |
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| 19:00.28 | mreimer | hi sirfred |
| 19:00.54 | koen | hey mreimer & sirfred |
| 19:01.00 | mreimer | hey koen! |
| 19:01.08 | sirfred | Hi, guys |
| 19:01.32 | JustinP | ::sigh:: why must the people I need help from live on the other side of the world? |
| 19:02.49 | timtimred | cause you love on the wrong side? :D |
| 19:02.54 | timtimred | live too perhaps |
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| 19:04.34 | greentux | hrw: did you heard somtheing about qtopie4 -> oe integration? |
| 19:06.01 | hrw | greentux: someone pointed that probably I will do it but I lack time now |
| 19:07.04 | hrw | DISTRO = "openzaurus" |
| 19:07.04 | hrw | DISTRO_VERSION = "3.5.5-rc0" |
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| 19:09.21 | greentux | hrw: lrj has a image for borzoi, but with 2.4 kernel etc. no oe image I assume. |
| 19:09.44 | koen | qtopia-core is already in OE |
| 19:10.35 | hrw | BOZKIE! |
| 19:10.37 | hrw | ops |
| 19:10.45 | [cc]smart | I need .config for openslug kernel to have CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT=m , didn't succeed though. How should it be done ? |
| 19:11.09 | hrw | http://uranos.cto.us.edu.pl/~mmierzwa/Tatry.jpg - there was over 40cm of snow in Polish mountains today |
| 19:11.48 | greentux | bozkie? polish? |
| 19:11.57 | [cc]smart | :) |
| 19:11.58 | sirfred | It seems the weather is really hard today in central Europe |
| 19:12.12 | sirfred | And the islands |
| 19:13.13 | JustinP | [cc]smart: edit the defconfig in OE |
| 19:13.30 | JustinP | I think I have the kernel module working as expected :-) |
| 19:14.35 | greentux | koen: so the qtopia apps are missing... ? |
| 19:15.03 | JustinP | hrw: any idea why the quilt installed scripts have staging (native, even) paths to perl? |
| 19:16.15 | [cc]smart | JustinP: i tried edition defconfig of ixp... kernel, but that didn't do it. what do you mean by OE defconfig ? |
| 19:16.32 | JustinP | [cc]smart: I mean the one that is stored in OE |
| 19:16.36 | JustinP | [cc]smart: in your OE checkout |
| 19:16.42 | VoodooZ | anybody has a source code browser for X to recommend. anything I click on function names or get call graphs? |
| 19:16.43 | [cc]smart | surprise |
| 19:16.50 | [cc]smart | JustinP: i tried edition defconfig of ixp... kernel, but that didn't do it. what do you mean by OE defconfig ? |
| 19:18.18 | JustinP | [cc]smart: where were you editing this? |
| 19:18.47 | [cc]smart | JustinP: org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16 |
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| 19:19.03 | hrw | VoodooZ: kscope? |
| 19:19.18 | hrw | JustinP: many, many packages has it ;( |
| 19:19.31 | JustinP | [cc]smart: ok, that should have worked then, assuming you rebuilt your kernel |
| 19:19.48 | JustinP | hrw: ok, then. I see it's a replacement...I've just fixed it manually for now |
| 19:20.04 | [cc]smart | bitbake -c clean ixp4xx-kernel openslug-image ; bitbake openslug-image |
| 19:20.34 | hrw | JustinP: do_install_append() {sed this;sed that;sed anython_that_moves\n# sed love sponsored by XorA & koen } |
| 19:20.44 | hrw | bye |
| 19:20.51 | [cc]smart | i got # CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT is not set in working dir .config |
| 19:20.55 | VoodooZ | hrw|gone: I'll give that a try. thanks. |
| 19:23.58 | sirfred | snes9x works great on libSDL on Ximageon. We really need 320x240 mode support... and a frontend |
| 19:24.10 | sirfred | a gtk+-2 frontend |
| 19:25.21 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: which version of slugos are you building? 3.11 source release, or monotone head? |
| 19:26.37 | JustinP | hmmmmm..... |
| 19:29.03 | [cc]smart | rwhitby: monotone head |
| 19:29.52 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: defconfig comes from nslu2-linux svn kernel repo directly. |
| 19:30.12 | [cc]smart | ? |
| 19:31.00 | [cc]smart | doesn't sound like a good thing (TM) to me |
| 19:31.35 | [cc]smart | should this be changed ? |
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| 19:32.28 | [cc]smart | IMHO source code is theirs, config is ours. |
| 19:35.03 | [cc]smart | so to speak |
| 19:35.15 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: depends on your definition of "us" and "them" ;-) |
| 19:35.44 | koen | [cc]smart has a good point |
| 19:36.00 | koen | suppose someone wants to use a different defconfig |
| 19:36.01 | [cc]smart | IIRC, the definition swirls around nslu2-linux merging into OE |
| 19:36.03 | koen | does he get svn write acccess? |
| 19:36.13 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: yes, I actually do agree with you though - the defconfig should be in OE's metadata. |
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| 19:36.43 | [cc]smart | that is merging the monotne DBs |
| 19:36.53 | rwhitby | the reason why it isn't at the moment is the same as the reason why we use the svnpatch mechanism |
| 19:37.09 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: nslu2-linux does *not* use a different monotone DB for metadata. |
| 19:37.42 | [cc]smart | a branch ? |
| 19:37.46 | rwhitby | no |
| 19:37.54 | [cc]smart | ~lart [cc]smart |
| 19:39.05 | kengilmer | hello...would this be an approprate place to ask a question regarding building generic-ulibc on the iMX.31 board? |
| 19:39.18 | [cc]smart | now, this seems to be too central for me to fiddle with it. |
| 19:40.22 | [cc]smart | so, is there someone who feels he would be interested in extracting current defconfig from nslu2-linux svn and moving that to OE ? |
| 19:40.25 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: the issue is that whilst the ixp4xx kernel has been volatile, it was simple more efficient to bring in the patches and defconfig from an svn repository revision number (that's what's done in HEAD). For a stable kernel version, obviously the defconfig would be in OE. |
| 19:40.42 | rwhitby | the kernel is no longer volatile, so now is the right time to move the defconfig. |
| 19:41.09 | [cc]smart | ah. now i got it. |
| 19:42.06 | rwhitby | you could make the same argument for the patches though - what if someone wants to add a local patch to the ixp4xx-kernel - do they automatically get OE write access? |
| 19:42.26 | rwhitby | the ideal thing is to allow someone to override in local.conf |
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| 19:45.43 | Bernardo | hi |
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| 19:56.48 | Kristoffer | What do I need to get accelerated working on spitz with xorg |
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| 20:05.05 | koen | Kristoffer: nothing, no xorg (or kdrive) driver |
| 20:07.12 | Kristoffer | koen oki, anyway to optimize it abit then :) really slow atm |
| 20:07.45 | koen | use kdrive, much lighter and less memory consuming |
| 20:08.26 | Kristoffer | koen oki thx, btw. Any work being done to xorg driver? |
| 20:08.40 | koen | not that I know off |
| 20:09.00 | koen | we might bribe xora into writing a xv driver for kdrive :) |
| 20:09.05 | Kristoffer | :D |
| 20:09.18 | Kristoffer | XorA *offers first born child* |
| 20:10.23 | Kristoffer | koen btw, is N800 released yet? Wanting to get one since my N700 rocks (got one from the dev program) |
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| 20:10.57 | koen | Kristoffer: has been for 2 weeks now |
| 20:11.05 | Kristoffer | really? :D Great |
| 20:11.10 | koen | I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a dev-discount |
| 20:11.33 | Kristoffer | Ah, they've started it this time also?.. Same procedure as before+ |
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| 20:11.52 | koen | http://maemo.org/maemowiki/N800DeveloperDeviceProgram |
| 20:13.26 | Kristoffer | Ah, abit different rules this time. Will be interesting to see how it goes |
| 20:20.44 | Crofton__ | I'm wishing I had managed to build something for my 770 :) |
| 20:20.57 | JustinP | XorA, RP: see my e-mail to oz-dev about the patch |
| 20:21.08 | Crofton | I wonder if the celinux guys can get us any? |
| 20:21.21 | koen | Crofton: probably not |
| 20:21.51 | Crofton | nokia not involved with them, I guess |
| 20:22.51 | [cc]smart | heh, close now. the display switched from logitech logo to the current time |
| 20:23.11 | CIA-19 | 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * rff91aa39... 10/ (1 packages/g15daemon/g15daemon_1.2.6a.bb): g15daemon: added runtime dependency and header files |
| 20:25.21 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: if there are any ixp4xx kernel config changes you need, please let me know so I can put them in the svn repo so they propagate to the other distros too. |
| 20:26.01 | Crofton | I'm trying to get some guys to use OE to build images for the PS3 :) |
| 20:26.05 | [cc]smart | rwhitby: there is one. i need: CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT=m |
| 20:26.18 | koen | [cc]smart: never EVER rdepend on a kernel-module |
| 20:26.36 | koen | [cc]smart: think about what happens with CONFIG_INPUT_UINPUT=Y |
| 20:26.55 | [cc]smart | the g15daemon insists on it being a module |
| 20:27.00 | [cc]smart | in docs. for whatever reason. |
| 20:27.13 | giel | Crofton: sony guys? |
| 20:27.23 | Crofton | no, the gnu radio guys |
| 20:27.28 | [cc]smart | so if this difference is the issue you are thinking about, it should be ok. |
| 20:27.48 | [cc]smart | but it seems i have a linking problem |
| 20:27.59 | koen | [cc]smart: it's close to being illegal in OE, rdepending on kernel-modules |
| 20:28.24 | [cc]smart | what should be done instead ? |
| 20:28.30 | likewise | Crofton: you got ps3 h/w there? |
| 20:28.37 | koen | RRECOMMENDS = "kernel-module-foo" |
| 20:28.46 | [cc]smart | will do |
| 20:29.02 | Crofton | nope |
| 20:29.21 | Crofton | too many other projects :( |
| 20:29.42 | rwhitby | what is the preferred version extension for something that tracks svn, such that it is lower than the real version that comes out when it stabilizes? (e.g. a 2.6.20-rc-svn kernel, which is later replaced by a real 2.6.20.bb) ? |
| 20:29.45 | likewise | same here |
| 20:30.21 | likewise | rwhitby: hmm, good question... |
| 20:30.31 | JustinP | RP, XorAL: or on kernel-discuss@handhelds.org |
| 20:30.47 | rwhitby | (oh, and it has to interoperate with the kernel version handling stuff in the kernel class too) |
| 20:31.39 | likewise | on a sidenote: I noticed that the kernel_2.6.19+2.6.20 versioning leaves some weird directories in lib/modules (something with the plus sign being interpreted as some point) |
| 20:32.25 | koen | likewise: sounds like a missing KERNEL_RELEASE/KERNEL_VERSION var |
| 20:32.34 | koen | (can't remember which got removed last week) |
| 20:32.44 | koen | check the linux-rp _git recipes |
| 20:33.21 | Crofton | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070118/tc_nm/hermanmiller_product_dc_1 |
| 20:33.31 | rwhitby | [cc]smart: done (in svn repo) |
| 20:33.32 | Crofton | This should help with our power cord problems |
| 20:33.46 | [cc]smart | rwhitby: thanks |
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| 20:43.55 | [cc]smart | would i need to use this configure option ? : --with-gnu-ld |
| 20:46.37 | [cc]smart | ld --help |
| 20:46.37 | [cc]smart | oops |
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| 20:56.10 | RP | JustinP: I suspect the code I was commenting on earlier was commented out, the new version looks ok although we might want to refactor the max1111 defines somehow |
| 20:56.27 | RP | JustinP: I'll have a better look and reply with comments later on |
| 20:57.28 | chazco | can anyone give me an approx space requirement to build meta-opie? and does it include any non-opie dependcys of the apps? thanks |
| 20:57.41 | JustinP | RP: thanks much :-) it's working for now for me so I'm happy. |
| 20:58.03 | JustinP | chazco: non-opie meaning....what? You have to build the entire toolchain and all dependencies |
| 20:59.02 | chazco | i mean if they require anything thats not exactly part of opie |
| 20:59.22 | chazco | so far the only app i've built is nano (and all the bits that go with the first build) |
| 20:59.35 | koen | opie requires glibc |
| 20:59.37 | koen | and the kernel |
| 20:59.47 | koen | I think we stopped the opie in time from forking those |
| 21:00.03 | koen | glibc/embedded kernel/embedded |
| 21:01.03 | chazco | so, if i bitbake meta-opie i should get all opie apps and any dependcys? sounds good |
| 21:06.17 | greentux | RP: evening, is allum at work these days? |
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| 21:11.40 | CIA-19 | 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * rfd8255a2... 10/ (1 packages/libg15/libg15_1.2.1.bb): libg15: add configure option --with-gnu-ld . |
| 21:11.45 | CIA-19 | 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * rd24553b6... 10/ (1 packages/libg15render/libg15render_1.2.bb): libg15render: add configure option --with-gnu-ld . |
| 21:15.19 | [cc]smart | one issue left which i don't see where to search... lcdproc configure log says: checking for new_g15_screen in -lg15daemon_client... no |
| 21:15.25 | [cc]smart | but it's in the .h file |
| 21:16.03 | [cc]smart | which it finds as in: checking for g15daemon_client.h... yes |
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| 21:31.36 | koen | [cc]smart: check config.log for the actuall error message |
| 21:31.52 | koen | likewise|tv: it's confirmed I'll be in eindhoven next week :) |
| 21:32.04 | koen | likewise|tv: I hope to get more details tomorrow |
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| 21:44.08 | [cc]smart | is autotools_stage_all the default for do_stage ? |
| 21:45.29 | psokolovsky | RP: Hi! Do you happen tp know state of kexec in 2.4 kernel? Did it exist at all? ;-) |
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| 21:48.44 | JustinP | psokolovsky: I believe there is no kexec in 2.4 at all |
| 21:48.55 | JustinP | [cc]smart: if you inherit autotools I think it is |
| 21:49.06 | psokolovsky | JustinP, no at all, for any platform? |
| 21:49.57 | JustinP | psokolovsky: AFAIK, no |
| 21:50.21 | psokolovsky | Ok, I see |
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| 21:58.17 | CIA-19 | 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * r9ba44743... 10/ (1 packages/g15daemon/g15daemon_1.2.6a.bb): g15daemon: leave staging to autotools. |
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| 22:03.16 | sirfred | Night |
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| 22:19.31 | [cc]smart | rwhitby: what driver is behind /dev/vcs* ? |
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| 22:22.45 | likewise | koen: let me know when you know more. |
| 22:23.11 | likewise | koen: your work would be in eindhoven as well? |
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| 22:27.27 | XorA | JustinP: cool, I shall check that out |
| 22:27.41 | XorA | JustinP: and try to make the changes for corgi |
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| 22:42.51 | bradbev | this is a question for those who do heavy development work on OE packages (the actual code), do you use BB to build all the time, even when doing debugging - or only when your code is stable enough? |
| 22:43.14 | XorA | bradbev: I use it all the time |
| 22:43.31 | bradbev | I'm bringing up some hardware that will need kernel mods, and I don't really think that bb is the way to rebuild the kernel to test stuff |
| 22:43.52 | XorA | bradbev: if you bitbake devshell, you can get a shell env thats like being inside a .bb |
| 22:43.53 | bradbev | XorA, so you use BB instead of a make system basically? |
| 22:43.55 | JustinP | bradbev: I've been rebuilding a kernel module on my Z for easy testing |
| 22:44.16 | XorA | bradbev: when I am doing kernek work I rm tmp/stamps/machine-linux/kernel-blah.do_compile |
| 22:44.24 | XorA | bradbev: then bitbake -b the kernel.bb |
| 22:44.51 | bradbev | right |
| 22:45.14 | bradbev | so, bitbake -b kernel -c compile kind of thing? |
| 22:45.41 | bradbev | when you say devshell, is that bitbake -i? |
| 22:46.46 | bradbev | oh, I see XorA - rming the stamp forces the compile... |
| 22:47.58 | XorA | bradbev: no devshell, makes a shell prompt for you that has the whole bitbake environment setup, from it you can do stuff the oe_runmake |
| 22:48.52 | bradbev | how do I enter this devshell? "bitbake devshell" builds a package |
| 22:49.28 | XorA | bitbake devshell will put the script in tmp/deploy/addons (if I remeber right) |
| 22:49.33 | bradbev | never mind, I just RTFM :) |
| 22:49.37 | XorA | then you just . ./devshell |
| 22:49.45 | XorA | bradbev: :-D |
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| 22:51.50 | bradbev | sigh, this whole OE environment takes a while to get up to speed with :) |
| 22:53.43 | XorA | :-D |
| 22:53.48 | psokolovsky__ | bradbev, that said, OE is first of all to build complete distros. You don't have to use it for debugging/developing software. But still can, and that's helpful ;-) |
| 22:53.48 | XorA | anyway time for me to sleep |
| 22:54.35 | bradbev | psokolovsky_, yeah, that's what I am trying to figure out now - is it lower hassle to build my kernel outside of OE and basically just use OE as a rootfs build tool? |
| 22:54.41 | bradbev | it's a tough one :) |
| 22:55.34 | psokolovsky__ | bradbev, I usually build kernels "manually" for kernel devel/debugging for example. OE kernel build is for release testing. |
| 22:56.14 | bradbev | psokolovsky__, that's what I am leaning toward right now - for doing a lot of module rebuilding, etc it feels more natural to just use the regular facilities |
| 22:56.31 | bradbev | package the kernel up for customer release, perhaps |
| 22:56.43 | JustinP | bradbev: but once you stabilize it you make a bb and set up defconfigs for your MACHINEs and OE takes care of it :-) |
| 22:57.14 | bradbev | psokolovsky__, do you build in place, ie ./work/linux/....? or completely away from it? |
| 22:57.34 | bradbev | JustinP, exactly :) |
| 22:58.40 | psokolovsky__ | bradbev, I have separate kernel tree(s) which I just symlink for OE use at all (to save on chekcing out 200+Mb). And I do out-of-tree build for those source tree too (to build for several machines). |
| 22:59.58 | bradbev | psokolovsky__, that sounds similar to my situation. I'll probably do that. But how do you mean you have symlinks for OE to use? Doesn't it want to unpack and compile the kernel |
| 23:01.28 | psokolovsky__ | bradbev, yep, so I break it on download, symlink manually, and restart build (at patch stage). Pretty dirty, but works for me ;-). |
| 23:01.44 | bradbev | ah. |
| 23:02.00 | RP | greentux: He is although usually rather busy |
| 23:02.09 | RP | psokolovsky__: As far as I know, kexec is a 2.6 thing |
| 23:02.20 | bradbev | thanks for that info, must run - meeting :) |
| 23:02.51 | psokolovsky__ | RP: Might you hear about it being backported (at all, not for ARM)? |
| 23:03.21 | RP | psokolovsky__: I've never heard anything which doesn't mean much. I avoid 2.4 kernels like the plauge ;-) |
| 23:05.30 | psokolovsky__ | RP: yeah. Just considering if I could play with 2.6 kernels on my MIPS router. 2.6 are really alpha in OpenWRT, so I'd never flash one, but kexec'ing from "stock" 2.4 sounds like good idea ;-)) |
| 23:06.08 | RP | psokolovsky__: Technically, it would certainly be possible... |
| 23:07.18 | psokolovsky__ | yep ;-) because those guys do the stuff pretty slow ;-) |
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| 23:21.42 | CIA-19 | 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r625aaea0... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): freetype: Added release 2.3.0, but with DEFAULT_PREFERENCE -1, needs testing. |
| 23:25.40 | rwhitby | bradbev: for nslu2-linux, we keep our kernel in an svn repo, and do new patches and testing there. then we bring the patches into OE for distribution. |
| 23:26.32 | rwhitby | (but that's mainly cause we have multiple distros like OpenWRT, Debian, OE, Gentoo, etc using those kernel patches while they're waiting to be accepted upstream) |
| 23:30.42 | greentux | RP: tnx, hope will meet him @fosdem. gn |
| 23:47.13 | RP | greentux: He'll be there, 'night |
