| 00:06.52 | RP | koen|away: Honestly, I don't know. I'm on holiday atm. I'm hoping it fixes the screen corruption I've seen in xtscal before |
| 00:10.26 | rwhitby | Is it a valid assumption that "bitbake world" should work for distro=angstrom, machine=ixp4xxle ? |
| 00:10.53 | rwhitby | (DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" actually) |
| 00:11.48 | RP | rwhitby: bitbake world should always work. Sadly, we don't have many people testing it and a lot of bugs in various dusty corners of the tree :-/ |
| 00:12.16 | rwhitby | ok, I'll make that the default target for angstrom builds on our nslu2-linux autobuilder then. |
| 00:12.33 | RP | rwhitby: It only makes sense with the continue upon error mode of bitbake |
| 00:12.41 | rwhitby | heh - when that works ;-) |
| 00:12.58 | RP | rwhitby: :-/ |
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| 00:32.56 | florian | good night |
| 00:34.48 | RP | 'night florian |
| 00:35.58 | mreimer | are there instructions floating around for how to use multimachine? |
| 00:36.25 | RP | mreimer: Just inherit it and change MACHINE |
| 00:36.32 | mreimer | wow, that's easy |
| 00:36.33 | mreimer | thanks RP |
| 00:38.27 | mreimer | is PARALLEL_MAKE safe to use? |
| 00:38.40 | RP | mreimer: Basically, yes |
| 00:38.53 | mreimer | ok |
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| 01:00.46 | JustinP | anyone who knows gdb well here? |
| 01:00.56 | JustinP | I want to get a backtrace for a problem... |
| 01:01.28 | JustinP | the problem happens when I send a SIGINT (Ctrl-c) to a program...but gdb catches it.... |
| 01:04.42 | RP | JustinP: handle SIGINT pass |
| 01:05.00 | RP | maybe... :) |
| 01:08.15 | JustinP | RP: thanks, that did it :-) |
| 01:13.23 | mreimer | did ASoC get into mainline? |
| 01:13.38 | RP | mreimer: Its on its way |
| 01:13.42 | mreimer | great! |
| 01:18.41 | monsti | i have a question on kbdd - i have some breaindead keyboard here i think i finally figured out how the protocoll works |
| 01:18.53 | monsti | who is the maintainer for that? |
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| 04:25.19 | rwhitby | diet-x11 fails in an Angstrom build too |
| 04:26.40 | rwhitby | interestingly, though, bitbake -k works as expected when doing bitbake -k world, but doesn't when doing bitbake -k slugos-packages. So it might be a slugos-specific problem instead of a bitbake -k problem. |
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| 06:28.28 | JustinP | hrw|gone: how can I turn off eabi? |
| 06:30.34 | NAbyss_ | JustinP: Change the target from linux-gnueabi, I'd imagine.. hrw|gone's probably better equipped to give a concrete answer |
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| 06:54.23 | hrw | morning |
| 06:54.31 | hrw | JustinP: use angstrom-2007.1-oabi distro |
| 06:56.34 | hrw | monsti: read kbdd page in handhelds.org wiki |
| 07:01.56 | JustinP | hrw: is angstrom softfloat? |
| 07:02.48 | hrw | yes |
| 07:07.52 | JustinP | ok, thanks |
| 07:11.15 | monsti | hrw: thx |
| 07:11.29 | hrw | np guys |
| 07:12.17 | monsti | hrw: it took me 3 days to snoop that braindead protocol :/ |
| 07:12.56 | JustinP | hrw: I'm attempting to help debug a problem with gpsd and garmin binary protocol. Works in angstrom but not in OZ. Turning off softfloat didn't help in OZ. Seems to be a compiler issue. |
| 07:13.50 | hrw | monsti: there is also zkbdd which was hacked to use lua for definitions of keyboards but this fork is nearly not maintained |
| 07:14.04 | hrw | monsti: Ir keyboard? do you use 2.6 kernel? |
| 07:14.13 | monsti | no :) |
| 07:14.22 | monsti | i wannt to use kbdd for psp := |
| 07:15.12 | monsti | and of couse i just got some braindead ir keyboard - so twice the fun :) |
| 07:16.29 | monsti | i think i just replace dev_uinput.c for a playstation version |
| 07:20.15 | hrw | monsti: maybe rather extend it and send patch upstream? |
| 07:33.41 | monsti | i am writiing a mail to one of the guys in the wiki |
| 07:35.22 | hrw | bluelightning is proper iirc |
| 07:35.40 | bluelightning | you rang? :) |
| 07:37.24 | hrw | ;D |
| 07:39.51 | monsti | damn - i really hate hardware with no specs :=) |
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| 08:13.25 | hvontres|home | history |grep links |
| 08:13.30 | hvontres|home | history |grep lynx |
| 08:25.21 | hrw | cu |
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| 08:54.02 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 08:56.20 | XorA | morning |
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| 08:59.44 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:00.04 | anushsh | morning |
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| 09:17.01 | XorA | is there something funky about monotone.openembedded.org today? |
| 09:17.51 | hrw|work | I pushed/pulled to ewi |
| 09:18.05 | koen | good morning all |
| 09:21.49 | greentux | morning (office again ;) |
| 09:32.58 | XorA | ~lart unison |
| 09:34.12 | niv_one_three | morning, koen: what time zone is mickey on? |
| 09:34.34 | koen | the german one |
| 09:40.09 | niv_one_three | odd, he seems to be here mostly at night.. |
| 09:40.31 | hrw|work | koen: monotone.openembedded.org works again? |
| 09:41.48 | koen | hrw|work: it should |
| 09:41.58 | koen | hrw|work: it shouldn't have stopped working |
| 09:42.12 | koen | hrw|work: but it is a bit clogged with a zillion people pulling 170 bogus csets |
| 09:42.27 | hrw|work | ah.. that ones |
| 09:42.38 | hrw|work | koen: good that ewi still serves |
| 09:43.04 | koen | and the one at wolfson |
| 09:44.38 | hrw|work | I will try to find time to write summary of my angstrom-mega-build |
| 09:46.49 | XorA | koen: yeah, that one still seems to be running |
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| 09:51.35 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7b4b2e61... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:51.35 | CIA-4 | testdisk_6.5+6.6-WIP.bb: add testdisk. From the homepage: |
| 09:51.35 | CIA-4 | TestDisk is a powerful free data recovery software! It was primarily designed to |
| 09:51.35 | CIA-4 | help recover lost partitions and/or make non-booting disks bootable again when |
| 09:51.35 | CIA-4 | these symptoms are caused by faulty software, certain types of viruses or human |
| 09:51.36 | CIA-4 | error (such as accidentally deleting your Partition Table). Partition table |
| 09:51.40 | CIA-4 | recovery using TestDisk is really easy. |
| 09:54.16 | koen | If I only had testdisk and photorec a few years ago |
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| 09:54.49 | hrw|work | few years ago I used AmigaOS which had such apps |
| 09:54.52 | XorA | I have used testdisk twice to recover when some stupid installer fscked my partition table (win98, gentoo) |
| 09:58.02 | XorA | 4 hours though to analise my disk :-( |
| 09:58.39 | rwhitby | koen: sorry about the merge csets. |
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| 09:59.06 | koen | rwhitby: why doesn't the autobuilder push the merges? |
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| 09:59.14 | lrg | morning all |
| 09:59.15 | hrw|work | hi Liam |
| 09:59.20 | XorA | yo lrg |
| 09:59.27 | koen | rwhitby: or even easier, why doesn't it just pick the first head and build from there? |
| 09:59.30 | koen | hey lrg |
| 09:59.39 | rwhitby | koen: I could make it push the merge easily - would that be preferable? |
| 09:59.53 | rwhitby | (I figured it could get into a merge war with another autobuilder ...) |
| 10:00.07 | rwhitby | building from first head is a good idea though. |
| 10:00.08 | koen | just picking the first head and build that would be preferable |
| 10:00.16 | rwhitby | I'll do that. |
| 10:00.33 | koen | thanks |
| 10:01.16 | hrw|work | mtn update -r`mtn automate heads |head -n1` |
| 10:01.24 | hrw|work | I use it in my fetch script |
| 10:02.13 | koen | I have something similar |
| 10:02.26 | rwhitby | I wonder if that would be appropriate for the nslu2-linux master makefile in general. then the normal user would never see multiple heads |
| 10:03.21 | koen | it the easiest solution |
| 10:03.51 | RP | morning all |
| 10:04.03 | koen | hrw|work: did the h&d people hack kconfig to parse html? |
| 10:04.05 | koen | hey RP |
| 10:05.12 | rwhitby | koen: I'm going to automerge the org.nslu2-linux branches, and do the first head trick on org.oe.dev (leaving it up to OE people to do any multiple head merges) |
| 10:05.16 | hrw|work | koen: palmld/defconfig? I'll fix it |
| 10:05.31 | hrw|work | koen: thats my fault |
| 10:05.58 | koen | hrw|work: and http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-hackndev-2.6/palmtx/init is bogus as well |
| 10:06.07 | koen | ROOT_DEV=$FILES_MNT/opie-image-v0.8.4-palmtx.rootfs.ext2!?!?! |
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| 10:07.23 | koen | file /bin/busybox ../busybox-1.1.0/busybox 4755 0 0 |
| 10:07.24 | koen | hmmm |
| 10:07.37 | koen | I suspect we'll need a initramfs.bbclass |
| 10:07.42 | blaster8 | :D |
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| 10:08.53 | koen | ~hail pH5 |
| 10:08.56 | ibot | ACTION bows down to pH5 and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 10:10.17 | pH5 | ibot: yes you are |
| 10:10.18 | hrw|work | koen: defconfig fixed |
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| 10:10.24 | pH5 | hey koen, hrw|work |
| 10:10.28 | hrw|work | hi ph5 |
| 10:16.52 | rwhitby | koen: master makefile updated - that should be the end of that problem. |
| 10:17.40 | rwhitby | koen: what's the general practice for dealing with bitbake world failures on Angstrom/ixp4xxle ? I want to set up the nslu2-linux autobuilder to build that. |
| 10:18.52 | RP | rwhitby: Do you have any scripts which handle sharing the output from your autobuilder? |
| 10:19.17 | XorA | ahah, why use unison when rsync rulez :-) |
| 10:19.51 | rwhitby | RP: we used to participate in tinderbox, but it got too unstable and clogged our autobuilder too often. if it is stable know we could try that again. |
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| 10:20.02 | rwhitby | the output packages go to ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/... |
| 10:20.32 | hrw|work | mtn: 3 heads on branch 'org.openembedded.dev' |
| 10:20.34 | hrw|work | nice |
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| 10:21.20 | rwhitby | three heads are a sign of lots of activity - that's a good sign :-) |
| 10:21.42 | hrw|work | pushing merges |
| 10:22.23 | rwhitby | (note that nslu2-linux people won't be automatically resolving multiple heads now, due to the change in the master makefile requested above. |
| 10:22.56 | rwhitby | that used to be automatically done by the master makefile, but now it just chooses the first head. |
| 10:23.45 | RP | rwhitby: I don't mean the build results, I mean the actual generated images/packages |
| 10:24.35 | rwhitby | RP: yep, there are all at ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/ for slugos and unslung. when we get Angstrom to build world successfully for ixp4xxle, the packages will be there too. That site is mirrored at OSUOSL. |
| 10:25.05 | rwhitby | (not images though, because they contain the intel microcode, so must be behind a click-through like those at www.slug-firmware.net) |
| 10:26.18 | RP | rwhitby: ok, I just wondered if you had a script for dealing with the image output from OE. I guess I'll have to write one ;-) |
| 10:27.08 | rwhitby | we just blow away tmp/deploy/images/*.img before building. |
| 10:27.21 | rwhitby | (to save the autobuilder disk filling up with dated image files) |
| 10:28.22 | hrw|work | rwhitby: how much space autobuild takes? |
| 10:28.56 | rwhitby | over 200GB for nslu2-linux, but that includes Optware autobuilds for 10 targets. |
| 10:29.16 | RP | rwhitby: Its an autobuilder filling up disks thats my problem :). I want to archive the last say 3 sets of images though and share them somewhere outside the build dir... |
| 10:30.02 | rwhitby | hrw|work: the feeds themselves are only about 35GB. |
| 10:30.32 | hrw|work | rwhitby: my 'all machines for angstrom' build of bootstrap-images took over 60GB |
| 10:31.27 | rwhitby | hrw|work: good thing our autobuilder machine has 75GB free for angstrom/ixp4xxle then :-) |
| 10:32.42 | koen | rwhitby: I usually file bugs when things go boom with builds :) |
| 10:33.01 | rwhitby | koen: just wondering about things like opie and such for ixp4xxle ... |
| 10:33.12 | koen | angstrom doesn't support opie |
| 10:33.23 | XorA | ~fish opie |
| 10:33.24 | ibot | ACTION slaps opie around with a large trout |
| 10:33.35 | rwhitby | hmm - bitbake -k world for angstrom/ixp4xxle builds opie stuff |
| 10:34.08 | RP | bitbake world is one heck of an undertaking :-/ |
| 10:34.39 | koen | I stopped building world years ago |
| 10:34.43 | rwhitby | RP: ah, but I've been chastised before for creating slugos-packages, so what's my alternative ? |
| 10:34.56 | koen | create a task |
| 10:35.26 | rwhitby | what's the existing task for all packages that build for Angstrom? |
| 10:35.35 | koen | there is none |
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| 10:35.51 | rwhitby | so how do you populate your angstrom package feed for your users? |
| 10:35.51 | RP | rwhitby: You could look at the meta-gpe and meta-opie "packages" as examples of "build xyz packages" |
| 10:35.56 | koen | 'all packages that build ' isn't very usefull |
| 10:36.09 | koen | rwhitby: build package, test package, upload to feed |
| 10:36.20 | rwhitby | bah - testing is for users. |
| 10:36.23 | koen | bitbake world ; rsync is a QA nightmare |
| 10:37.07 | rwhitby | ok, I'm down with creating a task then. how about task-nas ? |
| 10:37.22 | rwhitby | (i.e. what taxonomy do you use for task names?) |
| 10:38.24 | koen | I usually ask myself "what does a user expect from ipkg install task-foo?" |
| 10:38.25 | RP | rwhitby: You could also mark things which you didn't want to build using something like EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD_pn-opie-something = "1" and create and exclusions file somewhere |
| 10:38.45 | koen | RP: MACHINE via env seems to work here |
| 10:38.53 | RP | koen: Great :) |
| 10:38.54 | koen | RP: haven't built from scratch, though |
| 10:39.12 | RP | koen: It should be fine - it certainly works in poky |
| 10:39.17 | rwhitby | RP: exclusions is a good idea. |
| 10:39.26 | rwhitby | (does it take regexps?) |
| 10:39.36 | RP | rwhitby: sadly not |
| 10:40.17 | rwhitby | RP: got an example of an excludes file? find -name '*exclude*' was unsuccessful. |
| 10:40.37 | RP | rwhitby: We don't have one. I've hinted about how to do it though ;-) |
| 10:40.50 | RP | s/about/above/ |
| 10:40.59 | rwhitby | np - was just looking for stylistic convention to take note of. |
| 10:41.15 | rwhitby | would it go in conf/distro or packages/meta? |
| 10:41.30 | rwhitby | (I assume it's called angstrom-excludes.inc?) |
| 10:41.53 | RP | Its a conf file since it adds things into each packages metadata using the pn- override |
| 10:42.44 | rwhitby | so conf/distro/angstrom-excludes.conf, included by angstrom-2007.1{-oabi,}.conf ? |
| 10:43.06 | RP | rwhitby: For now I'd call it something specific to what you're doing - angstrom-ixp4xxle-world-excludes.inc and just add the inc to your local.conf |
| 10:43.23 | RP | I don't know if koen will want such a thing enabled globally |
| 10:43.38 | rwhitby | Are there likely to be a whole lot of ixp4xxle specific failures? |
| 10:44.04 | RP | I don't know... |
| 10:44.23 | rwhitby | ok, so conf/distro/include/angstrom-ixp4xxle-world-excludes.inc it is |
| 10:44.46 | RP | rwhitby: If more people want to use it, it can be renamed and generalised |
| 10:45.00 | rwhitby | nod |
| 10:45.14 | rwhitby | perhaps have _ixp4xxle as an override in it? |
| 10:45.34 | RP | rwhitby: If its an ixp4xxle specific problem, yes |
| 10:45.38 | rwhitby | (then people can just take out the override suffix for general angstrom-excluded packages) |
| 10:46.06 | rwhitby | RP: I'm thinking of calling it angstrom-world-excludes.inc, and then putting ixp4xxle suffix on all |
| 10:46.19 | koen | let's not go that route |
| 10:46.20 | rwhitby | (which can then be removed, say, for all opie stuff) |
| 10:46.36 | rwhitby | koen: what's your preference? |
| 10:46.56 | koen | not building world? |
| 10:47.06 | koen | or using MACHINE_FEATURES = screen |
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| 10:48.03 | koen | and if you're going to build angstrom, packages, why not upload them to the angstrom feed: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ ? |
| 10:48.19 | rwhitby | so you're suggesting I edit all the opie .bb files to only build for machines with a screen? |
| 10:48.25 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2007/01/03/2006-timeline/ |
| 10:48.37 | rwhitby | koen: I'd be happy to upload them anywhere I have write access. |
| 10:48.43 | hrw|work | rwhitby: libqte would be enough |
| 10:48.46 | RP | koen: The problem is if you don't have a known good list and you don't have an exclusion list, how do you know what to build in the autobuilder? |
| 10:49.05 | hrw|work | rwhitby: if libqte will be skipped for !screen images then whole opie and qpe apps will be skipped |
| 10:49.08 | RP | This is a problem which will come up again :-/ |
| 10:49.42 | rwhitby | RP: I think koen is saying exclude whole heaps of things using FEATURES, and only use the excludes file as a last resort of other misc failures. |
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| 10:50.52 | koen | RP: an exclusion last has to be thought through, especially considering angstrom is building for a lot of machines |
| 10:50.53 | XorA | libqte-x11 would be a valid target even on a slug |
| 10:51.09 | koen | my ixp4xx machine has a vga plug :) |
| 10:51.16 | RP | I think it will get ugly. Think about python's tk build time dependency for example |
| 10:51.58 | rwhitby | RP: that one is an example of something which should not be exluded - the diet-x11 package should be fixed instead. |
| 10:52.12 | rwhitby | (as X libs can be useful on any headless box) |
| 10:53.25 | rwhitby | koen: your usb-vga is why I want to build as many packages as I can. I can't predict what people will want to do, and don't have the time to respond to every little request one at a time to enable a new package on the autobuilder. |
| 10:53.44 | rwhitby | (for ixp4xxle) |
| 10:53.56 | RP | rwhitby: With usb-vga, you could run opie :-/ |
| 10:54.19 | rwhitby | right. that's why my autobuilder should build opie (assuming it builds for ixp4xxle) |
| 10:54.35 | koen | RP: iirc the sis doesn't expose a good framebuffer |
| 10:55.20 | koen | rwhitby: you're making one mistake: ixp4xxle isn't the only armv5te machine angstrom supports |
| 10:55.38 | RP | Ok, so the exclusions list is looking to be as small as possible. I suggest a file specifically for your autobuilder for now which might grow into something more general purpose |
| 10:56.04 | rwhitby | RP: angstrom-slugos-world-excludes.inc ;-) |
| 10:56.15 | RP | It'll also be useful for tracking failures as we'll have a list of broken packages in theory... :) |
| 10:56.29 | RP | rwhitby: right :) |
| 10:57.06 | RP | koen: Without some decent bugzilla admins, that would be a nightmare |
| 10:57.44 | koen | RP: or some other database |
| 10:58.00 | RP | koen: Some other database would be much better |
| 10:58.03 | koen | the reports have to be store somewhere |
| 11:00.27 | koen | before the next term starts :/ |
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| 11:11.39 | rwhitby | RP: is the syntax actually "EXCLUDE_FROM_WORLD_pn-<package-name>" ? |
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| 11:16.54 | RP | rwhitby: yes |
| 11:24.48 | XorA | RP: KERNEL_RELEASE = "2.6.19-rc4" in 2.6.19+git file?? |
| 11:25.02 | RP | XorA: ah, yes :-/ |
| 11:25.20 | XorA | RP: not a problem, I was just nicking some stuff from that file :-=) |
| 11:25.54 | RP | XorA: 2.6.19-rc3 ;-) |
| 11:26.22 | RP | sorry, 2.6.10-rc2. |
| 11:26.29 | RP | no... |
| 11:26.35 | XorA | RP: go fetch coffee |
| 11:26.57 | koen | RP: how about a check like I did for the hh kernels? |
| 11:27.16 | koen | make OE die if KERNEL_RELEASE and the Makefile don't match |
| 11:27.37 | RP | koen: If you can make it do that, you can set KERNEL_RELEASE automatically ;-) |
| 11:28.40 | koen | can you set bitbake vars inside methods? |
| 11:29.15 | hrw|work | bb.data.setVar() iirc |
| 11:29.34 | RP | right :) |
| 11:29.58 | koen | if [ `grep EXTRAVERSION Makefile | grep hh | awk '{print $3}' | sed s/-hh//` != ${HHV} ]; then |
| 11:29.59 | koen | die "-hh version mismatch" |
| 11:29.59 | koen | fi |
| 11:30.16 | RP | You need a python function, not shell |
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| 11:39.14 | RP | Actually, I could even fix reenoo's pet hate with bitbake trunk too... |
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| 11:41.31 | koen | or you could do a release cycle and merge mickeyl's gui stuff |
| 11:42.00 | RP | koen: I mean by fixing KERNEL_RELEASE once and forall, the problem with KERNEL_VERSION would go away too |
| 11:42.53 | RP | koen: mickeyl's gui stuff can't be merged until we sort out an ipc. Once mickey digs out some code for me, I'll look at it |
| 11:44.11 | koen | hmmm |
| 11:44.12 | koen | http://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-vfs-obexftp/0.1/ |
| 11:44.16 | koen | tempting... |
| 11:44.53 | XorA | koen: need gnome-vfs-sdp as well |
| 11:47.27 | RP | Why aren't KERNEL_VERSION and KERNEL_RELEASE the same thing? |
| 11:49.21 | koen | gah |
| 11:49.33 | koen | dnus now behaves on my hx4700, but not on the hx2200 |
| 11:49.41 | koen | using the same packages |
| 11:50.46 | RP | koen: You have an hx2xxx? |
| 11:51.00 | koen | ehm h2200 |
| 11:52.42 | RP | I'm going to axe the KERNEL_RELEASE variable |
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| 12:07.00 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 12:14.18 | hrw|work | compulab-pxa270 - who maintain it? |
| 12:17.55 | hrw|work | dht-walnut.. someone built it for angstrom? |
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| 12:19.09 | hrw|work | koen: efika/angstrom is buildable? |
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| 12:26.02 | koen | hrw|work: it should be |
| 12:26.16 | koen | hrw|work: I built a angstrom-bootstrap-image for efika yesterday |
| 12:27.13 | koen | hrw|work: cbrake maintains compulab |
| 12:27.37 | Crofton | koen, does it boot? |
| 12:28.10 | koen | I only chrooted it |
| 12:29.45 | hrw|work | koen: then probably my buildtree is fscked |
| 12:30.57 | XorA | ~. |
| 12:31.04 | ibot | . |
| 12:38.37 | hrw|work | .. |
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| 12:49.00 | XorA | damn ssh, why does ~. do whats its supposed to sometimes and not others |
| 12:54.08 | cbrake | hrw|work: there is a NAND binary driver in the compulab build that is not EABI compatible. Hopefully, we can move to OSS JFFS2 drivers at some point ... |
| 12:55.40 | hrw|work | cbrake: thats what I suspected. |
| 12:57.03 | cbrake | hmm, compulab has an updated kernel patch -- sure wish they would version the files on their site. |
| 12:58.30 | hrw|work | cbrake: add md5sum to file in SRC_URI |
| 13:01.20 | hrw|work | ipkg-make-index must die |
| 13:02.47 | cbrake | hrw|work: ok, will do |
| 13:03.02 | hrw|work | "675,858,558 bytes in 22074 files" results in 22M Packages file |
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| 13:09.59 | hrw|work | ~kill ipkg-make-index |
| 13:10.11 | ibot | ACTION shoots a ionized fluxneutrino gun at ipkg-make-index |
| 13:15.23 | Gerrath | It looks like ipkg crashes the 2.6.19 kernel the same as apt? I read were there is a bug that everyone has been tracking down in the 2.6.19 kernel regarding this.. does anyone know if there is a patch yet? |
| 13:17.13 | RP | Its the first time I've ever had to deal with a failed processor :-/ |
| 13:21.35 | greentux | lrg: ping |
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| 13:25.14 | hrw|work | koen: interesting mail sent to OEML |
| 13:29.28 | lrg | greentux: pong |
| 13:29.34 | lrg | RP: pxa ? |
| 13:29.54 | greentux | lrg: do You need a zaurus again? I can bring one with me to fosdem |
| 13:30.03 | lrg | greentux, |
| 13:30.17 | lrg | greentux: not atm as XorA has many ;) |
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| 13:30.48 | lrg | greentux: thanks for asking |
| 13:30.55 | greentux | ok, but You are @fosdem? |
| 13:31.06 | greentux | perhaps somebody need a 3200 / 3300 for testing purpose... |
| 13:31.06 | lrg | greentux: yes :) |
| 13:31.26 | hrw|work | greentux: 3300? |
| 13:31.39 | greentux | 3100/3200 sorry... |
| 13:32.17 | XorA | ah no secret source from greentux then :-) |
| 13:32.56 | greentux | XorA: no, :) |
| 13:34.29 | greentux | I heard about a successor of the olympus R1000 Touch PDA... |
| 13:37.00 | RP | lrg: no, my desktop system :-/ |
| 13:37.21 | hrw|work | RP: you have a desktop system? |
| 13:37.55 | RP | hrw|work: yes, easier to work on for long periods than a laptop |
| 13:38.15 | hrw|work | RP: there was rumours that you develop on spitz only ;d |
| 13:39.41 | XorA | hrw|work: nah, he is hardcore, collie thumb keyboard only |
| 13:39.49 | RP | hrw|work: :} |
| 13:39.50 | greentux | ok, If somebody helps to have a zaurus for some months, we can org. it at fosdem |
| 13:40.14 | greentux | hardes would be to develope on neo phone... |
| 13:40.27 | hrw|work | greentux: but neo phone has 128M ram.. |
| 13:43.42 | greentux | hrw|work: but You cant type with RAM ;) |
| 13:45.45 | XorA | use it with voice controll on BT headset and speak the codez |
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| 13:47.47 | hrw|work | mickey is watching tv... |
| 13:48.07 | hrw|work | XorA: with BT-less device you want to use BT headset? |
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| 13:49.27 | XorA | hrw|work: ah well, that blows that plan |
| 13:49.37 | XorA | hrw|work: shoulda checked the specs |
| 13:49.53 | mr_nice | ~seen zecke |
| 13:50.28 | ibot | zecke <n=ich@145.253.107.2> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 18h 57m 58s ago, saying: 'later guys'. |
| 13:50.28 | XorA | have to be a keyboard via SPI via micro-sd slot then |
| 13:51.41 | stefan_schmidt | XorA: micro-sd is under battery. :) |
| 13:52.32 | XorA | stefan_schmidt: not a problem, I used to work for a company used to make cables for putting into SIM slots for simulations |
| 13:52.47 | XorA | stefan_schmidt: its quite easy to route round a battery |
| 13:52.52 | stefan_schmidt | XorA: heh |
| 13:53.51 | Gerrath | I'm using the linux-rp_2.6.19 kernel and it is having a core dump everytime I run "ipkg install" |
| 13:54.50 | Gerrath | has anyone else had this issue? |
| 14:01.01 | Gerrath | I'm getting an out_of_memory and a paging error in the dump. |
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| 14:04.25 | Gerrath | XorA, what version are you using? |
| 14:05.01 | XorA | Gerrath: Im not at moment, I tried it when trying to find heisenbug |
| 14:07.45 | Gerrath | The 2.6.19 kernel is crashing everytime I run "ipkg install", "ipkg update" and "ipkg remove" work fine. I will try 2.6.18 and see if it works better, I know 2.6.17 works fine.. although I have added all the RP patches, so maybe something there is not liking ipkg or is conflicting with one of my other patches :-/ |
| 14:13.08 | Gerrath | I did an strace on ipkg and it looks like it is crashing during the download. |
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| 14:44.55 | cbrake | Gerrath: may want to run some tests w/ wget or whatever ipkg uses to download files. |
| 14:45.37 | hrw|work | ipkg update -verbose-wget and you will see |
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| 14:46.34 | cbrake | Gerrath: is CONFIG_PREEMPT set in this version of the kernel? |
| 14:49.38 | Gerrath | cbrake, no. |
| 14:51.47 | Gerrath | actually I think the dump is happening before the download.. let me strace agaiun. |
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| 15:01.58 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: ping |
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| 15:05.58 | giel | hmz |
| 15:07.10 | Gerrath | cbrake, I'm removing all NON-critical patches for my system and re-compiling the kernel.. I will see if the issue is still there and if not then add the patches back a couple at a time. |
| 15:07.48 | Gerrath | cbrake, once I identify the area causing it then I can litter it with printk's to find the source. |
| 15:08.08 | giel | why does makedevs not what it tells you it does? ie. it does not create directories |
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| 15:13.47 | giel | and it ignores the uid/gid |
| 15:18.17 | niv_one_three | mr_mice : hi |
| 15:19.04 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: hi |
| 15:19.38 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: wich simpad do you have? |
| 15:19.46 | niv_one_three | pls jabber me: nivwiz at gmail.com |
| 15:19.52 | niv_one_three | SL4 |
| 15:20.01 | niv_one_three | u? |
| 15:20.13 | niv_one_three | help |
| 15:20.19 | niv_one_three | ~help |
| 15:20.23 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: I don't have jabber but if you want we can do a private chat here |
| 15:20.53 | niv_one_three | ok |
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| 15:21.55 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: mom I have to read the IRC manual |
| 15:22.28 | hvontres|poodle | Sorry for the newb question, but does bitbake keep a central log file somewhere? |
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| 15:23.09 | hrw|work | hvontres|poodle: log of? |
| 15:23.11 | giel | wow, who made this madedevs thing? |
| 15:23.14 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: do you konw how to start a private chat in irc? |
| 15:23.20 | giel | it's a wonder it works at all |
| 15:23.40 | hrw|work | mr_nice: /query NICK |
| 15:23.46 | niv_one_three | mr_mice : to chat privatly usually /msg <nick> msg |
| 15:23.55 | mr_nice | hrw|work: thx |
| 15:25.25 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: do you see the message? |
| 15:25.41 | niv_one_three | I see yu at #oe |
| 15:25.52 | niv_one_three | the private msg also arrived |
| 15:25.58 | niv_one_three | the previos msg |
| 15:26.04 | hvontres|poodle | hrw|work: I was wondering if the screen output was also logged to a file by default. I started a build at home last night and I want to keep an eye on it from work |
| 15:28.00 | hrw|work | hvontres|poodle: tmp/work/*/temp/log.do_* |
| 15:28.32 | niv_one_three | hrw: once the build is done , where do you see the .jffs2 image? |
| 15:28.40 | hvontres|poodle | hrw|work: thanks. I was wondering if there was another location :) |
| 15:28.47 | niv_one_three | ~/devel/org.embedded ? |
| 15:29.09 | a-atwood | hvontres|poodle: use screen? |
| 15:29.25 | a-atwood | detatch it and re-attach from work? |
| 15:30.02 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: isn't there something like mr_nice like a chanel? |
| 15:30.04 | hvontres|poodle | a-atwood: hmm.. I guess I'll have to take a look at the screen man pages :) |
| 15:31.42 | hrw|work | niv_one_three: tmp/deploy/images/ usually |
| 15:31.53 | niv_one_three | hrw: thanks |
| 15:32.14 | niv_one_three | nice: I do see a channel with you nick |
| 15:32.23 | niv_one_three | go on respond to my lines |
| 15:33.14 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: I see a channel with your nick but no questions from you in it |
| 15:34.52 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: did you saw my messages in that chanel? else we can talk in this chanell it it is not to ot |
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| 15:35.41 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: I hava a SL4 and a T-Sinus |
| 15:37.39 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: you said that you have a problem with zeckes 2.6 mq200 driver. what exactly is your problem with it? |
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| 15:53.24 | CIA-4 | 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * rf53f1f02... 10/ (1 conf/machine/compulab-pxa270.conf): compulab-pxa270.conf: corrections in machine conf |
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| 15:53.30 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.58 | Gerrath | what are the requirements to become an official OE developer? |
| 15:58.16 | hrw|work | Gerrath: submit good patches |
| 15:59.00 | Gerrath | hrw|work, simple enough :-) |
| 15:59.46 | hrw|work | Gerrath: you submit good patches, we give r/w |
| 15:59.55 | hrw|work | simple |
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| 16:26.16 | RP | Gerrath: You have the xscale_workaround patch? |
| 16:26.31 | RP | hi mallum :) |
| 16:27.43 | RP | XorA: You should try a kernel with the xscale patch applied - that could solve the OOM problem |
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| 16:29.13 | hrw|work | source mirror with all stuff in one directory HURTS |
| 16:29.16 | mallum | hey RP :) |
| 16:29.28 | hrw|work | hi Crofton mallum |
| 16:29.36 | hrw|work | [hrw@misc1 ~]$ ls -1 www/sources/|wc 22830 22830 1241178 |
| 16:29.40 | Crofton | gm |
| 16:29.58 | mallum | hey hrw|work |
| 16:30.15 | Gerrath | RP, is that one of your patches? |
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| 16:32.23 | XorA | RP: I have one compiled up, just need to flash it and boot it |
| 16:35.43 | hrw|work | how to get first letter from string in shell? |
| 16:35.58 | hrw|work | name = 'umbaumba' and I want first 'u' |
| 16:37.25 | Gerrath | RP is that the xscale_cache_workaround-r1.patch |
| 16:37.43 | XorA | sed -e "s/(.).*/\1/" |
| 16:38.17 | gremlin[it] | cut -c1 |
| 16:38.34 | Gerrath | RP, if so I do not have it (yet), could that be the cause? |
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| 16:39.05 | hrw|work | thx gremlin[it] |
| 16:41.17 | koen | re |
| 16:48.27 | hrw|work | cu guys |
| 16:54.25 | RP | Gerrath: It might fix the problem you're seeing. Its in mainline now. See the dicussion on linux-arm-kernel about it |
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| 16:58.10 | mr_nice | zecke: hi |
| 16:59.12 | zecke | RP: I'm still thinking but forced to share my mind with the minix assignment... |
| 17:00.07 | gremlin[it] | assignement : write a better OS than minix. *LOL* |
| 17:00.44 | zecke | gremlin[it]: even better? |
| 17:02.17 | gremlin[it] | is really good minix ? |
| 17:02.50 | zecke | minix is easy to cope with |
| 17:02.56 | zecke | no races, no threading :) |
| 17:03.09 | pb_ | zecke: good afternoon |
| 17:03.27 | zecke | gremlin[it]: and last. Linux is obsolete, I use minix |
| 17:05.08 | mr_nice | zecke: do you remeber if the 2.6 simpad_switches did work? |
| 17:05.15 | hvontres|poodle | zecke: when will we see minix_cvs.bb ? |
| 17:06.08 | zecke | mr_nice: at one point it did. But nowadays pavel's mcp stuff is mainline and should be used |
| 17:07.10 | mr_nice | zecke: yes but he has no switches or? |
| 17:12.41 | mr_nice | zecke: do you know how to read out all necessary registers of a running linux box or how to find some docu or google keywords for it? |
| 17:15.11 | mr_nice | zecke: I will compare the SIMpad with a functional mq200 state (after booting 2.4 and rebooting 2.6) and the same in a state where it won't work (after disconnect the power and boot 2.6 without booting ce or 2.4) |
| 17:15.24 | zecke | mr_nice: arm linux, look at the ARM Linux Kernel ML FAQ (devmem2) |
| 17:15.41 | koen | 'bitbake devmem2' |
| 17:15.43 | mr_nice | zecke: thx |
| 17:18.30 | zecke | mickey|tv: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Long_term_Fedora_Linux_support_ending/0,130061733,339272842,00.htm |
| 17:20.54 | univac | gremlin[it]: when new note on th blog? |
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| 17:23.22 | gremlin[it] | univac, hi !!! ... as soon i'll got some result on USB ... |
| 17:23.38 | univac | Hi, o, nice! |
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| 17:27.20 | gremlin[it] | zecke really a shane fedora Legacy will close ... i update as a new FC exit my laptop and workstation ... but other small machines stay with old since big issue emerge (i have a couple FC4 small servers) ... |
| 17:28.29 | RP | zecke: hi and np :) |
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| 17:40.43 | zecke | gremlin[it]: common Free Software theme, people consume |
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| 17:58.26 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1c76e8be... 10/ (1 packages/fbgrab/fbgrab_1.0.bb): fbgrab: add patch to enable a network mode, see http://lists.openezx.org/pipermail/openezx-devel/2007-January/000941.html for details |
| 18:00.15 | hvontres|poodle | RP: do you know why the kernel seems to ignore the "-j 2" option for make and run single-threadded? |
| 18:00.57 | RP | hvontres|poodle: Known mainline kernel bug |
| 18:02.08 | hvontres|poodle | RP: OK..thanks. I am building a test image for poodle with 2.6.19+git atm. I should have some test results by friday :) |
| 18:03.06 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r90c738a1... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h1940.conf): h1940: tune for arm920t |
| 18:03.30 | koen | hrw|gone: there you go, no more arm packages for h1940 |
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| 18:04.28 | koen | RP: can I do 'PACKAGE_ARCH=arm-oabi' and 'EXTRA_PACKAGE_ARCHS += "arm-oabi"' in a distro.conf? |
| 18:06.47 | hrw | re |
| 18:06.48 | hrw | koen: ok |
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| 18:07.41 | hrw | ipkg-make-index takes 26minutes |
| 18:07.43 | hrw | ARHG |
| 18:07.45 | koen | i-m- drives me nuts |
| 18:07.59 | hrw | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-base: kernel-image-2.6.15gum kernel-image-2.6.15gum kernel-image-2.6.15gum kernel-image-2.6.15gum kernel-image-2.6.17.9 kernel-image-2.6.1 |
| 18:08.03 | hrw | 5gum kernel-image-2.6.15gum kernel-image-2.6.18 kernel-image-2.6.17.9 |
| 18:08.57 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7e82eca3... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx2000.conf): hx2000: clean up machine config a bit |
| 18:09.21 | hrw | koen: thats for ks* machine |
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| 18:19.22 | hrw | ~oebug 1749 |
| 18:19.27 | hrw | !oebug 1749 |
| 18:19.28 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1749, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-01-03 10:22 |
| 18:19.29 | cdbot2 | * * openembedded(AT)hrw.one.pl: mc extfs contain STAGING related paths to perl |
| 18:19.30 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749 |
| 18:23.16 | hrw | koen: I just differ recipes of bootstrap-image and angstrom-bootstrap-image. for my test both are ok. |
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| 18:25.07 | koen | strace and gdb have had build problems for various archs |
| 18:25.19 | koen | so angstrom-*-image are better tests |
| 18:27.01 | hrw | arm armv4t armv6 armv5te i586 i686 built here |
| 18:27.06 | hrw | 6.4/6.6 |
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| 18:32.30 | hrw | mrz80: metaphysically you are in queue to be added into ignore list |
| 18:33.44 | giel | hehe |
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| 18:53.36 | Gerrath | rp, xscale_cache_workaround-r1.patch did not fix my crashing. |
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| 19:25.47 | koen | NCIS time! |
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| 19:34.10 | hrw | hm. I wrote shell version but it was even slower |
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| 19:34.51 | hrw | cu |
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| 19:52.30 | greentux | ping do13 |
| 19:53.09 | do13 | greentux: pong |
| 19:53.43 | greentux | do13: evening... did you talk with your collegue? |
| 19:54.59 | do13 | greentux: hi, yep no longer interested. another option :) |
| 19:55.54 | greentux | do13: oh.. ok these times are good for job hoppers |
| 19:56.25 | do13 | greentux: yep |
| 19:58.01 | do13 | greentux: my collegue told me: this offer for the office in Essen would be more interesting |
| 19:58.52 | greentux | do13: aahhh. |
| 19:59.14 | greentux | do13: these "go west" people... |
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| 20:02.05 | do13 | greentux: you are from dresden? |
| 20:02.06 | greentux | do13: is essen we have only student jobs open ;) |
| 20:02.15 | greentux | do13: yes I am (radebeul, near DD) |
| 20:03.10 | do13 | greentux: yep. He's looking for an job offer as hardware developer near Essen |
| 20:03.19 | lrg | do13: do you live in/near Stuttgart ? |
| 20:03.32 | do13 | hey Liam |
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| 20:03.39 | do13 | lrg: no |
| 20:03.57 | lrg | do13: ah, fwiw we now have office in Stuttgart |
| 20:04.48 | do13 | lrg: ahh ... |
| 20:05.15 | lrg | do13: it's a 2 man office atm, but it will hopefully expand. |
| 20:05.41 | do13 | lrg: sales? |
| 20:05.48 | zecke | hehe |
| 20:05.57 | lrg | do13: no, eng :) |
| 20:08.43 | do13 | lrg: option for teleworking? :) |
| 20:10.05 | lrg | do13: it's possible. |
| 20:10.15 | do13 | lrg: btw. I have a new job in 3 weeks |
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| 20:11.13 | goxboxlive | Why all the changes in oe.dev? There where 251 revisins since yesterday . |
| 20:11.28 | zecke | goxboxlive: see mail, bogus merges |
| 20:11.56 | goxboxlive | zecke: ok |
| 20:11.56 | zecke | do13: I'm curious... |
| 20:13.33 | do13 | zecke :) |
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| 20:16.06 | do13 | zecke: telecoms protocol analysing (ATM, GSM/GPRS/UMTS and CDMA) |
| 20:16.41 | koen | mickey|tv: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2007-January/msg00018.html |
| 20:21.17 | hrw | re |
| 20:21.56 | do13 | hi Marcin |
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| 20:27.11 | hrw | 68G devel/build/test/ |
| 20:27.11 | hrw | real 232m37.373s |
| 20:27.11 | hrw | user 0m6.853s |
| 20:27.11 | hrw | sys 0m51.773s |
| 20:27.32 | hrw | nearly 4h to 'just' check 'du -h' of my build... |
| 20:27.46 | hrw | awesome |
| 20:27.57 | hrw | ~lart slow serial-ata disc |
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| 20:36.30 | hrw | re koen |
| 20:38.10 | koen | hey hrw |
| 20:38.11 | gremlin[it] | hrw what dick is ... so i don't buy one :) |
| 20:38.11 | gremlin[it] | s/dick/disk/ |
| 20:42.04 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.04 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.04 | hrw | SCSI device sda: 488397168 512-byte hdwr sectors (250059 MB) |
| 20:42.53 | lrg | night all |
| 20:43.00 | hrw | 4h for checking... I wonder how long it will remove those files |
| 20:43.03 | hrw | night lrg |
| 20:54.34 | zecke | do13: interesting |
| 20:55.01 | zecke | good nite |
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| 21:10.52 | Crofton | for efika use distro angstrom-2007.1? |
| 21:11.00 | hrw | will work |
| 21:11.05 | hrw | according to koen |
| 21:11.12 | hrw | RewriteRule ^(.)(.)(.*)$ $1/$1$2/$1$2$3 [L] |
| 21:11.19 | hrw | gcc-3.4.4.tar.gz -> g/gc/gcc-3.4.4.tar.gz it should do or not? |
| 21:11.22 | hrw | ideas? |
| 21:11.53 | hrw | RP: can you look at my recent bitbake-dev mail? |
| 21:13.56 | RP | hrw: I'm ok on the licence change for 1.6, the setup.py and shbang changes. Please don't check that runqueue one in though |
| 21:14.42 | hrw | RP: that one is to ignore |
| 21:15.23 | RP | hrw: the rest is fine. Just please make sure trunk sees the changes as well as 1.6 |
| 21:15.35 | RP | I've like to get a 1.6 release out soon |
| 21:16.11 | hrw | ok. will do them tomorrow |
| 21:16.51 | RP | I backported enough from trunk to make MACHINE work from the environment too |
| 21:16.59 | hrw | I saw that |
| 21:17.51 | hrw | mc + 22K of files == long wait... |
| 21:18.37 | RP | :) |
| 21:20.01 | hrw | ~lart clucene_cvs.bb for module=. |
| 21:20.11 | hrw | its HIDDEN in dl_dir |
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| 21:22.02 | Crofton | note to self: Spell efika properly |
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| 21:24.25 | hrw | cu |
| 21:26.43 | furlongm | anyone know if there an existing cfengine-like package in OE? |
| 21:26.48 | furlongm | can't get cfengine to crosscompile properly :( |
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| 22:07.16 | mickeyl | koen: such a meeting sounds good, however the 23th would conflict with the Roy D'Espagne gathering |
| 22:07.29 | koen | drat |
| 22:07.29 | mickeyl | koen: perhaps we could suggest the 26th? |
| 22:08.01 | koen | mickeyl: yeah |
| 22:08.34 | mickeyl | bbiab |
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| 22:16.14 | mickeyl | RP: ping |
| 22:18.18 | RP | mickeyl: pong |
| 22:18.49 | mickeyl | heya. I have a spare hour to hack on the xmlrpc server. can you recapitulate what waitpid functions we want in the server request loop? |
| 22:19.29 | RP | mickeyl: yes, I can spend some time on that now |
| 22:20.04 | mickeyl | ok. i just need to know what i should do in the server loop and what API you want (i.e. addWaitPid(pid, callback) and then I'll do it |
| 22:20.42 | RP | mickeyl: Basically what the code at the end of runqueue does, just the waitpid there |
| 22:21.04 | mickeyl | does one server need to wait for multiple PIDs ? |
| 22:21.42 | RP | mickeyl: waitpid will return any pid of any exitting process. We would then call it again to get the next one. |
| 22:22.13 | RP | mickeyl: We wait for any process in the current process to exit, then process that result |
| 22:22.20 | RP | current process group |
| 22:22.31 | mickeyl | ok, so we wait nonblocking for 500ms ? |
| 22:22.48 | mickeyl | and then select 500ms for incoming xmlrpc events |
| 22:22.49 | mickeyl | ? |
| 22:23.28 | RP | mickeyl: just call waitpid with no delay, then wait for xmlrpc for 500ms, then call waitpid, see if anything changed, no delay |
| 22:23.59 | RP | mickeyl: xmlrpc events are going to be much more time critical than process changes |
| 22:24.06 | RP | likewise: bitbake |
| 22:24.29 | likewise | RP: ok, giving it an XMLRPC i/f? |
| 22:25.01 | mickeyl | RP: k, let me cook up something |
| 22:26.18 | RP | likewise: something like that |
| 22:35.56 | likewise | ~seen gerwinin |
| 22:36.22 | ibot | gerwinin <n=gerwinin@ip5457b30e.direct-adsl.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 2h 37m 18s ago, saying: 'Koen : didn't have to stay in the hospital'. |
| 22:36.33 | mickey|bitbake | *sigh* |
| 22:37.13 | RP | I did that as soon as I got it. I never got a serial lead working until about 5 minutes ago though :) |
| 22:37.21 | mickey|bitbake | heh, congrats |
| 22:37.23 | mickey|bitbake | hardware hacker |
| 22:37.36 | mickey|bitbake | i'm shy of even shortcutting a resistor |
| 22:37.51 | RP | First time I did the wiring correctly, I just picked up the wrong chip off the desk :-( |
| 22:38.01 | mickey|bitbake | eeks |
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| 22:38.23 | XorA|gone | gah, you guys would start talking slug, look who you dragged in :-) |
| 22:38.35 | mickey|bitbake | heh, talking about the devil |
| 22:38.54 | RP | rwhitby: I finally have a serial console on a slug ;-) |
| 22:39.47 | rwhitby | RP: sweet |
| 22:39.58 | rwhitby | now you can help us with Angstrom :-) |
| 22:40.38 | RP | rwhitby: yes :) |
| 22:41.42 | rwhitby | and maybe even the open source ixp npe driver bugs ... |
| 22:42.44 | RP | rwhitby: We'll see :) |
| 22:46.54 | koen | what modules have to be loaded for usbfs to mean? |
| 22:47.03 | koen | usb-core or ohci* ? |
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| 22:47.37 | RP | koen: It will probably mount with just usb-core |
| 22:47.59 | RP | It'll probably be empty until you load an hcd driver |
| 22:48.19 | koen | any objections againts 1) building usb-core into the kernel or b) autoloading usb-core ? |
| 22:48.48 | RP | koen: 1 will break the rootfs size on zaurii |
| 22:48.57 | RP | zimage size |
| 22:49.24 | koen | so b) |
| 22:49.29 | RP | no problem with autoloading on those machines with usb |
| 22:55.06 | koen | like this: http://rafb.net/p/UaQprI66.html ? |
| 22:57.49 | koen | mickey|bitbake: one of the irex dudes is coming to fosdem |
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| 23:04.41 | koen | *lightbulb* |
| 23:04.57 | koen | with machine-via-env I can do builds for multiple machines at once |
| 23:05.33 | koen | can someone sponsor a 8 or 16 core machine + rackspace? |
| 23:06.10 | RP | koen: That patch is going to break things like c7x0 :-/ |
| 23:06.10 | koen | RP: how so? |
| 23:06.10 | koen | c7x0 doesn't have that module installed |
| 23:06.26 | RP | koen: I guess it isn't in the default rootfs. It usually is in mine though :-/ |
| 23:06.47 | koen | what ill effects does loading usb-core have? |
| 23:07.04 | RP | Its just pointless on c7x0 unless you have a usb CF card |
| 23:07.08 | koen | (I have it on my machines as well for the ratoc card) |
| 23:07.51 | RP | Why do we need this? So the mount of usbfs works? |
| 23:07.57 | koen | yes |
| 23:09.26 | koen | I spotted the sa1100-rtc module inthere, so I thought it would be a good place |
| 23:12.34 | mickey|bitbake | phew |
| 23:12.43 | mickeyl | RP: you got mail |
| 23:12.54 | mickeyl | bitbake hackin' session finished |
| 23:12.54 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 23:13.33 | RP | mickeyl: thanks |
| 23:13.46 | mickeyl | np, it was about time. sorry [as always] for the delay |
| 23:13.48 | mickeyl | :) |
| 23:16.18 | mickeyl | http://www.laserpod.com/introduction.asp |
| 23:16.25 | RP | mickeyl: np :) |
| 23:17.32 | RP | mickeyl: This integrates the waitpid problem nicely but I'm still a little confused regarding data flow. |
| 23:17.35 | koen | mickeyl: hippie |
| 23:17.58 | mickeyl | RP: in what way? |
| 23:18.01 | mickeyl | koen: :) |
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| 23:18.26 | RP | mickeyl: How do we handle callbacks from the server to the UI? |
| 23:18.38 | koen | mickeyl: get one of these: http://www.new-line.nl/webshop/view.asp?i=13913 |
| 23:18.58 | RP | mickeyl: Have you got the data flow email I sent handy (8th Decemeber)? |
| 23:19.41 | mickeyl | RP: please send it to me again, i only have my response :/ |
| 23:20.18 | likewise | sleep tight, good nite |
| 23:20.20 | mickeyl | RP: I'm going to add some server bits into the ncurses to demo it for you, ok? |
| 23:20.24 | mickeyl | (not today though) |
| 23:20.30 | mr_nice | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.32 | mickeyl | RP: basically the GUI needs to open up a server as well |
| 23:21.39 | mickeyl | integrated into the ncurses loop |
| 23:21.48 | mickeyl | so we'll need a similar trick as integrating the waitpid |
| 23:21.50 | mickeyl | thinking about it |
| 23:21.56 | mickeyl | i may solve it a bit more generically |
| 23:22.10 | mickeyl | to make it useful both for waitpid and ncurses |
| 23:22.30 | mickeyl | bed time now |
| 23:22.31 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 23:22.37 | RP | mickey|zzZZzz: one second |
| 23:22.45 | mickey|zzZZzz | ya |
| 23:22.47 | RP | mickey|zzZZzz: To quote the mail I just sent, " We don't want an xmlrpc server on both ends do we?" :) |
| 23:22.54 | mickey|zzZZzz | heh |
| 23:22.54 | mickey|zzZZzz | we do |
| 23:23.01 | RP | If we need a server on both ends, I understand :) |
| 23:23.06 | mickey|zzZZzz | good :) |
| 23:23.19 | RP | mickey|zzZZzz: great, thanks :) |
| 23:23.31 | koen | 'night all |
| 23:23.32 | mickey|zzZZzz | np. pester me if I don't send you something tomorrow |
| 23:23.35 | mickey|zzZZzz | g'night koen |
| 23:23.43 | RP | 'night mickey|zzZZzz and thanks again |
| 23:23.58 | mickey|zzZZzz | not at all :) |
| 23:24.23 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r4b865f12... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom-2007.1.conf: Add feed arch for h3900. |
| 23:24.29 | RP | mickey|zzZZzz: I can probably make something work from here :) |
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