| 00:13.10 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1222261c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: bump SRCDATE |
| 00:13.35 | RP | HNY from GMT :) |
| 00:14.46 | koen | RP: happy new year! |
| 00:18.48 | koen | openembedded.org upgraded to mtn 0.32 |
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| 00:28.31 | Crofton | hny |
| 00:28.39 | Crofton | I'm still waiting here |
| 00:29.59 | HopsNBarley | for a HNY? |
| 00:30.00 | Crofton | 4.5 hours to go |
| 00:30.18 | Crofton | we are going to visit friends now |
| 00:30.37 | Crofton | hopefully I get to the friends with fireowkrs for the main event |
| 00:31.00 | RP | The weather here makes going out for fireworks pointless :-/ |
| 00:31.16 | koen | you americans already have 4th of july for fireworks |
| 00:31.42 | HopsNBarley | we'll take any excuse to blow stuff up. *(-; |
| 00:32.05 | koen | wow |
| 00:32.29 | koen | mtn annotate is actually usable with 0.32 |
| 00:32.30 | HopsNBarley | that is fantastic news. |
| 00:34.11 | koen | real 1m35.415suser 1m16.635ssys 0m3.515s |
| 00:34.17 | koen | instead of 6 hours |
| 00:34.49 | RP | That's quite some improvement :) |
| 00:35.15 | koen | 0.32 cache part of the toposort in the db |
| 00:35.40 | mwester | quite some improvement as in "it's actually useful"! :) |
| 00:36.07 | koen | useful on a <100GHz machine |
| 00:36.34 | mwester | My 100GHz machine is in the shop ;) |
| 00:36.46 | HopsNBarley | hey, and there is a (masked) 0.32 ebuild file for gentoo already! |
| 00:39.06 | chouimat|ibook | koen I think mtn should get rid of sqlite :) |
| 00:39.35 | mwester | Urgh. Needs another database migration step... last one took all night on my machine ('cause my 100GHz one is "in the shop" ;) ) |
| 00:39.44 | koen | chouimat|ibook: you can use postgres as a backend :) |
| 00:39.51 | chouimat|ibook | koen really? |
| 00:40.07 | koen | chouimat|ibook: yes, someone implemented it |
| 00:40.38 | koen | heh |
| 00:40.41 | chouimat|ibook | koen if it does like amarok (with my 20K+ collections) it will be a nice speed improvement |
| 00:40.46 | koen | annotate shows a lot of "a9e89996.. by koen 2005-06-30" |
| 00:41.31 | koen | RP: NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.1-r9: task do_compile: started |
| 00:41.43 | RP | koen: How many files remain untouched since then out of interest? |
| 00:42.01 | koen | RP: a lot |
| 00:42.24 | koen | RP: but Laibsch removed whitespace from 900 files today :) |
| 00:43.15 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r08158e66... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp: 2.6.19+git update to 2.6.10-rc2, fix mainline breakage, make hx2000 work again |
| 00:43.36 | RP | koen: I nuked 46 files just cleaning up tslib ;-) |
| 00:44.47 | RP | I had poky running on the hx2750 yesterday. I wish I had time to finish that port :-/ |
| 00:46.53 | koen | RP: put a big SD in it and use it as a native compile system |
| 00:47.30 | RP | Funnily enough it was running off an ext2 partition on an SD card :) |
| 00:47.52 | koen | NOTE: package glibc-2.5-r4: task do_compile: started |
| 00:48.16 | RP | koen: The test would be whether e-image still works... |
| 00:48.46 | RP | The efl stuff makes the most use of the -config files |
| 00:49.01 | RP | It worked for me - I built my first ever e-image :) |
| 00:49.18 | koen | the problem with that is that justinp is one of them oz354x people |
| 00:50.00 | RP | You can't argue with people wanting stability... |
| 00:50.08 | RP | Angstrom is getting there though |
| 00:50.17 | RP | I'm going to really push for EABI in poky now |
| 00:50.39 | koen | angstrom has pretty much everything locked down |
| 00:50.44 | koen | and source mirrors :) |
| 00:51.07 | koen | I wonder how hrw's experiment turns out |
| 00:51.08 | chouimat|ibook | koen do you know where I can find it? |
| 00:51.12 | RP | but it uses EABI/glibc 2.5 which hasn't exactly been stable until now |
| 00:51.22 | koen | building angstrom for every machine in OE... |
| 00:51.57 | RP | Ultimately, I hope to have a buildbot doing things like that |
| 00:52.33 | chouimat|ibook | koen I plan to go get a seagate 400GB ide for about 185cad ... |
| 00:53.01 | koen | RP: getting a test infrastructure running for OE would be nice |
| 00:53.27 | koen | we just need to have into the computers of holger's uni :) |
| 00:53.38 | RP | koen: I have buildbot running test builds against poky now |
| 00:54.28 | koen | RP: buildbot or tinderclient? |
| 00:54.54 | RP | koen: buildbot. A really simple setup where it just runs some commands like "MACHINE=c7x0 bitbake oh-image-sdk" |
| 00:55.03 | koen | cute |
| 00:55.27 | RP | Its "different" to tinderclient |
| 00:55.54 | RP | Ultimately I suspect OE needs something custom or something hacked to bits... |
| 00:57.32 | koen | bitbake-cluster (aka bakery) + bitbake-reportserver |
| 00:57.48 | RP | I do like the idea of a bakery :) |
| 01:05.44 | koen | we'll have an extra server for OE in ~1 week |
| 01:07.19 | koen | oesources 2.0 :) |
| 01:10.37 | RP | :) |
| 01:10.51 | RP | I suspect a poky mirror will get setup sooner or later too |
| 01:10.56 | RP | and a poky feed |
| 01:12.16 | koen | maintaining feeds is a $U*$#@ in the ass |
| 01:12.43 | RP | :-/ |
| 01:12.51 | koen | I still need a online upload tool |
| 01:13.50 | koen | and a ipkg-make-index that doesn't suck |
| 01:14.10 | RP | write one? :) |
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| 01:17.13 | RP | I've been trying to avoid package management |
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| 01:18.38 | NAbyss | koen: I'm still having issues w/ those kernel modules and task-base.. got any time to help out? |
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| 01:19.29 | koen | NAbyss: you'd have to ask zaurus-master RP |
| 01:27.10 | NAbyss | RP: I'm having an issue building angstrom that's been occurring over the last week.. http://oe.pastebin.com/848756 |
| 01:28.40 | RP | NAbyss: Wipe asoc-v0.12.4.patch from your sources dir and try again |
| 01:28.52 | RP | (rebuild the kernel) |
| 01:28.59 | NAbyss | RP: Thanks |
| 01:29.12 | RP | Wolfson and myself have a patch with the same name :-/ |
| 01:37.12 | koen | 12.6 is out |
| 01:37.36 | koen | 13pre1 as well |
| 01:38.04 | RP | No real Zaurus changes now though... |
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| 01:50.21 | mickey|NYparty | yo |
| 01:50.24 | mickey|NYparty | so it is 2007 |
| 01:50.28 | mickey|NYparty | happy new year guys |
| 01:50.34 | mickey|NYparty | this year will ROCK for us all |
| 01:50.37 | koen | mickey|NYparty: happy new year |
| 01:50.39 | RP | mickey|NYparty: HNY :) |
| 01:51.18 | mickey|NYparty | from playing two hours 12-string |
| 01:51.50 | koen | mickey|NYparty: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-January/000960.html |
| 01:52.07 | mickey|NYparty | hehe |
| 01:52.58 | mickey|NYparty | i hope we'll get a new ETA statement from Sean these days |
| 01:53.13 | koen | and news about the b-word |
| 01:53.19 | mickey|NYparty | yeah. |
| 01:53.42 | mickey|NYparty | I'm going to pester him |
| 01:54.05 | koen | and I'm curius what the 'big suprise' is sean was talking about |
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| 01:54.40 | mickey|NYparty | when did he say that? |
| 01:56.01 | koen | mickey|NYparty: iirc you said that sean said that ... |
| 01:56.13 | mickey|NYparty | heh, oh |
| 01:56.16 | mickey|NYparty | can't remember offhand |
| 01:56.24 | mickey|NYparty | perhaps something about v2 |
| 01:56.37 | koen | yes, something about v2 |
| 01:56.51 | mickey|NYparty | heh, it's no |
| 01:56.52 | mickey|NYparty | t |
| 01:57.06 | mickey|NYparty | can't tell but I was shocked when he told me |
| 01:57.08 | mickey|NYparty | :) |
| 01:57.11 | mickey|NYparty | (positively, that is) |
| 01:57.21 | mickey|NYparty | but I'm afraid he won't tell until v1 is out |
| 01:57.38 | mickey|NYparty | i wish it already was that point of time anyway |
| 01:58.53 | mickey|NYparty | RP: I think we better don't look into Uboot on the Z. the old bootloader seems to be good enough together with altboot and kexec |
| 01:59.20 | RP | mickey|NYparty: Agreed |
| 01:59.38 | koen | mickey|NYparty: initramfs + kexectools |
| 02:00.06 | mickey|NYparty | initramfs has the problem that it makes the kernel images too large for angelboot |
| 02:00.27 | koen | remove some drivers that aren't needed for kexecing stuff |
| 02:00.29 | ggilbert_ | hey mickey, any idea what this opie2 thing ljp is doing is? |
| 02:01.05 | koen | ggilbert_: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=opie |
| 02:01.23 | mickey|NYparty | ggilbert: cheers. yes i know. ljp seems wanting to fork qtopia4 gpl and make opie2 out of that. what exactly his plans are... no one knows. I don't think there is a roadmap yet, although there should be, if he wants people to join the effort |
| 02:01.40 | ggilbert_ | ah |
| 02:02.11 | mickey|NYparty | at this point of time i'd rather see opie2 being a set of additional applications than a fork |
| 02:02.26 | mickey|NYparty | not that it would matter for me personally, i'm not going to be involved |
| 02:02.30 | ggilbert_ | kind of strange that ljp would do it as a fork :) |
| 02:03.12 | koen | http://handhelds.org/hypermail/opie-devel/31/3192.html |
| 02:03.37 | ggilbert_ | woah oliver is alive |
| 02:03.45 | lpotter | fork..branch..whatever.. |
| 02:03.46 | mickey|NYparty | yeah, i was surprised of that as well |
| 02:04.01 | mickey|NYparty | he doesn't seem to be very vocal though. i tried to discuss, but he doesn't want to |
| 02:04.04 | lpotter | ya. opie devs coming out of the woodwork |
| 02:04.09 | mickey|NYparty | i wonder what he was up to the years |
| 02:04.12 | mickey|NYparty | *shrug* |
| 02:05.22 | ggilbert_ | oh and happy new years to anyone who is already in 2007 |
| 02:05.28 | mickey|NYparty | to you too, thanks |
| 02:05.37 | lpotter | already 12 hours old!! |
| 02:06.18 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc45af8ae... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.19+git: Fix hx2000 suspend/resume |
| 02:07.24 | mickeyl | c'ya tomorrow |
| 02:07.30 | RP | 'night mickeyl |
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| 06:25.12 | Crofton | HNY, finally! |
| 06:34.00 | mwester | HNY |
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| 08:30.31 | anushsh | hey need some help with the boost lib installation for monotone |
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| 08:54.27 | gremlin[it] | Happy New Year !!! |
| 09:31.45 | niv_one_three | morning |
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| 09:50.11 | nasum | hello |
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| 09:54.56 | niv_one_three | ok.. so bit bake is just like portage in gentoo |
| 09:55.24 | niv_one_three | write a few lines to describe where the source is at, and how to compile it |
| 09:56.15 | gremlin[it] | yes the idea is the same |
| 10:01.13 | nasum | if I just want a toolchain to compile for zaurus/linux 2.6 are there working binaries I can download somewherE? |
| 10:01.49 | nasum | I need a cross compiler where host is x86 and the target is ARM |
| 10:03.56 | gremlin[it] | probably yes u can find around specially if "old" gcc such as 3.3 ... |
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| 10:07.08 | gremlin[it] | hi koen, happy 2007 |
| 10:13.08 | koen | good morning all |
| 10:13.12 | koen | gremlin[it]: happy new year |
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| 10:21.11 | niv_one_three | happy new year koen |
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| 11:06.13 | RP | morning all |
| 11:11.30 | Mavez-San | yhelothar |
| 11:22.42 | do13 | morning, happy new year |
| 11:24.52 | koen | RP: doing a build for arm, x86 and powerpc right now |
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| 11:29.11 | anushsh | koen |
| 11:29.42 | koen | hey anushsh |
| 11:30.37 | anushsh | koen, need some help for oe installation dude |
| 11:30.50 | anushsh | the boost lib is give me lots of prob |
| 11:31.33 | koen | boost? |
| 11:36.53 | anushsh | koen, when installing the boost lib, i also need to install boost-jam separately right |
| 11:37.01 | koen | for what? |
| 11:37.48 | anushsh | for getting the montone installation done |
| 11:37.58 | koen | apt-get install monotone |
| 11:38.37 | anushsh | oh cool |
| 11:39.06 | RP | koen: What would be your thought on enabling angstrom images for the hx2000? |
| 11:39.37 | koen | RP: I'm all for it |
| 11:41.01 | koen | linux-rp 2.6.16+git |
| 11:41.08 | koen | isn't that linux-rp 2.6.19+git? |
| 11:41.20 | RP | koen: I'm tempted to say do it... |
| 11:41.33 | RP | It should be .19+git. Where is the reference wrong? |
| 11:41.43 | koen | in your mail to angstrom-dev :) |
| 11:42.34 | RP | ahhrg. There isn't a .16+git version so lets presume its a turing test ;-) |
| 11:43.47 | RP | I should buy a decent sized hdd for OE builds, then I could try an hx2000 image from OE.dev.... |
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| 12:33.54 | koen | NOTE: package diet-x11-X11R7.1-1.1.1-r0: task do_configure: started |
| 12:35.51 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9283ad40... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libxft_X11R7.0-2.1.12.bb): libxft: update to 2.1.12 |
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| 12:43.17 | pgfeller | hi all & a happy new year |
| 12:44.23 | pgfeller | I have a question to "devshell"; if I use devshell to configure tslib the configure script reports that libtool does not support shared libs - but if I bitbake tslib I have the .so |
| 12:44.51 | pgfeller | as I'm working on a new module it would be very convinient if I could build shared object files in devshell as well ... |
| 12:45.12 | pgfeller | any idea what I have to do that libtool in devshell supports shared libs? |
| 12:50.03 | RP | pgfeller: Which devshell are you using? |
| 12:50.21 | pgfeller | rp: from the .dev branch |
| 12:50.37 | RP | pgfeller: -c devshell or devshell.bb? |
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| 12:51.05 | pgfeller | rp: bitbake devshell ... => ./deploy/addons/... |
| 12:51.13 | pgfeller | rp: do I guess devshell.bb |
| 12:51.49 | RP | pgfeller: Try bitbake tslib -c devshell |
| 12:52.06 | koen | RP: devshell is broken without -b |
| 12:52.14 | koen | and your distro needs to inherit it |
| 12:52.23 | RP | koen: ah, yes :-/ |
| 12:52.35 | koen | luckily angstrom inherits it :) |
| 12:52.40 | RP | pgfeller: bitbake -b tslib_1.0.bb -c devshell |
| 12:53.35 | pgfeller | rp: thanks ... will give it a try |
| 12:57.13 | pgfeller | rp: "bitbake -b /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/tslib/tslib_1.0.bb -c devshell" results in an error: ERROR: InvalidTask event exception, aborting |
| 12:57.40 | RP | pgfeller: Which distro/branch? |
| 12:58.01 | pgfeller | rp: .dev (last update was done yesterday) |
| 12:58.32 | pgfeller | rp: checkinf distro ... a second |
| 12:58.56 | pgfeller | rp: DISTRO = "generic"; DISTRO_VERSION = ".dev-snapshot-20070101" |
| 12:59.11 | pgfeller | rp: MACHINE = "collie" |
| 12:59.28 | RP | pgfeller: Add INHERIT = "devshell" to your local.conf. generic doesn't support devshell as standard |
| 12:59.51 | pgfeller | rp: thanks again ... will do. |
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| 13:07.35 | pgfeller | rp: unfortunately the error persist ... do I have to clean up ./cache or something? |
| 13:08.04 | RP | pgfeller: No, it shouldn't need anything like that |
| 13:10.48 | pgfeller | rp: is "bitbake version 1.6.2" ok - or shall I try another one? |
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| 13:13.12 | RP | pgfeller: I'd recommend the latest 1.6 |
| 13:13.47 | RP | I can't remeber what that is :-/ |
| 13:14.04 | pgfeller | rp: np ... will check - but I think 1.6.2 is quite recent |
| 13:14.38 | pgfeller | rp: checked - 1.6.2 is the latest stable |
| 13:16.34 | RP | pgfeller: 1.6.3 mustn't have been released yet (it is in svn), The problem you're seeing isn't a bitbake issue though |
| 13:17.02 | RP | If bitbake runs and doesn't drop you to a shell you'll need 1.6.3 |
| 13:17.19 | RP | invalid task means something is wrong with the INHERIT |
| 13:18.44 | pgfeller | rp: ok ... will go to 1.6.3 then |
| 13:26.24 | pgfeller | rp: "bitbake -b /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/tslib/tslib_1.0.bb -c devshell" failes as well - will now try "bitbake tslib -c devshell" ... |
| 13:30.58 | niv_one_three | ok, I am still new |
| 13:34.31 | niv_one_three | ran the bitbake gpe-image and I think it completed well |
| 13:34.56 | niv_one_three | yet I get noting for "find . -iname '*.jffs2' " |
| 13:35.04 | niv_one_three | where is the image? |
| 13:36.14 | pgfeller | niv_one_three: did you check the "deploy" dir ... maybe it is in an archive (.tar, bz ... or something) |
| 13:38.10 | pgfeller | rp: I'm affraid - it still does not work ... is it relevant where to place the INHERIT in the local.conf? |
| 13:38.15 | pgfeller | ~pastebin |
| 13:38.28 | ibot | pastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 13:39.56 | pgfeller | rp: my local.conf => http://pastebin.ca/299100 |
| 13:48.46 | pgfeller | mmh ... bitbake tslib -c listtask also results in an error (ERROR: InvalidTask event exception, aborting) |
| 13:49.47 | pgfeller | "bitbake -b /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/tslib/tslib_1.0.bb -c listtasks " works, but devshell is not in the list :-/ |
| 13:52.46 | niv_one_three | pgfeller: thanks |
| 13:53.12 | pgfeller | niv_one_three: np ... so you found it? |
| 13:54.18 | niv_one_three | min looking |
| 13:55.19 | niv_one_three | I thought I saw a deploy directory... |
| 13:55.53 | niv_one_three | min I look in /tmp |
| 13:58.09 | pgfeller | niv_one_three: /stuff/tmp/ if you use std. paths |
| 13:58.40 | koen | find /path/ -name "*.jffs2" |
| 13:59.06 | niv_one_three | found the deploy at /tmp/oe/deploy |
| 13:59.15 | niv_one_three | but no jffs2 there.. |
| 13:59.36 | hrw | morning |
| 13:59.49 | pgfeller | morning hrw |
| 13:59.57 | hrw | ~lart configure loops |
| 13:59.58 | niv_one_three | I ran, updatedb , then locate .jffs2 - nothing :-( |
| 14:00.01 | niv_one_three | hi hrw |
| 14:00.23 | hrw | my build got stalled on do_configure kernel.. |
| 14:00.39 | koen | hrw: szczesliwego Nowego Roku |
| 14:00.58 | hrw | koen: thx - for you too |
| 14:01.17 | hrw | koen: mipsel need BIG site info updates |
| 14:01.48 | koen | *sigh* |
| 14:02.03 | niv_one_three | pgfeller: is it usually at deploy? |
| 14:02.39 | pgfeller | niv_one_three: well . I´m a beginner too, - but afaik: yes |
| 14:02.44 | koen | hrw: configure loops make me regret to have largefile support |
| 14:02.46 | niv_one_three | hrw: is the that simpad like you got faster then the simpad ?? |
| 14:02.53 | niv_one_three | I mean it is 400mhz.. |
| 14:03.11 | hrw | niv_one_three: I have progear webpad not simpad |
| 14:03.32 | niv_one_three | ya the progear , is it faster then the simpad? |
| 14:03.45 | hrw | niv_one_three: and it is x86 with fpu so it is rather more faster then strongarm in simpad |
| 14:03.52 | niv_one_three | is it a special architcture? |
| 14:04.04 | niv_one_three | oh ok |
| 14:04.27 | niv_one_three | I looked all over and can't see where to buy one |
| 14:04.37 | niv_one_three | how the hell did you get it? |
| 14:04.37 | hrw | niv_one_three: its 6 years old device |
| 14:04.45 | hrw | niv_one_three: got it from OE user |
| 14:04.46 | niv_one_three | LIKE THE SIMPAD |
| 14:04.49 | niv_one_three | :-) |
| 14:05.01 | niv_one_three | hmm..\ |
| 14:05.13 | niv_one_three | any idea where to get one? |
| 14:05.42 | niv_one_three | how much time does it run? |
| 14:06.25 | hrw | no idea |
| 14:06.32 | hrw | no time to check few things on it |
| 14:06.37 | hrw | food time - cu |
| 14:07.43 | niv_one_three | koen, I did get a bunch of .ipk at the deploy - but no .jffs2 :-( |
| 14:07.55 | niv_one_three | I will need to look in to it.. |
| 14:12.40 | niv_one_three | seems the files stay at the temp path , shouldnt they be copied to the initial path? |
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| 14:37.56 | chouimat|ibook | morning |
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| 14:44.17 | niacin | anyone awake that has experience with embedded stuffs? |
| 14:44.34 | niv_one_three | ? |
| 14:45.06 | niacin | would a embeded linux solution with xorg take a while to load? |
| 14:45.53 | niv_one_three | you mean pdaX ? |
| 14:46.30 | niacin | im trying to get a system into my car to control a daughterboard on my ECU for tuning purposes |
| 14:46.42 | niacin | but im concerned regarding boot times |
| 14:47.18 | RP | niacin: You could use something like suspend to ram... |
| 14:47.59 | niacin | that would be a lot of work imo, i just want to turn a key, supply voltage, and go to town |
| 14:49.10 | niv_one_three | wish I had a clue.. I am still trying to build an image.. |
| 14:49.17 | niacin | oh fun |
| 14:49.20 | niv_one_three | suspend to ram - aint that - a - big - a deal |
| 14:49.44 | pgfeller | ... it works now :-) ... just missed the "--host=arm-linux" parameter for the config script ... now I can build .so in devshell :-D |
| 14:50.16 | niacin | i just hacked up a crappy portable dvd player and got the 5" lcd controller to work with my pc, figured id use it for something usefull |
| 14:50.41 | niacin | was gonna pick up a sbc or whatnot |
| 14:55.13 | koen | RP: no problems so far with a multi-arch build |
| 14:55.31 | RP | koen: Great :) |
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| 15:07.32 | hrw | re |
| 15:07.48 | hrw | time to report some bugs |
| 15:08.02 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
| 15:08.07 | mickeyl | hey hrw! |
| 15:08.14 | mickeyl | happy new year, all the best |
| 15:08.20 | hrw | you too mickeyl |
| 15:08.24 | mickeyl | we should start planning FOSDEM asa |
| 15:08.24 | mickeyl | p |
| 15:08.25 | koen | hrw: wb |
| 15:08.52 | koen | mickeyl: it looks like diet-x11 1.1.1 has some tweaks to make x-traffic faster |
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| 15:10.43 | hrw | fisrt bug submited |
| 15:10.53 | hrw | !oebug 1736 |
| 15:10.54 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1736, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-01-01 07:13 |
| 15:10.54 | mickeyl | really? cool, can we drag' them into the fullx!11? |
| 15:10.55 | cdbot2 | * * openembedded(AT)hrw.one.pl: omap1710h3 lack kernel configuration |
| 15:10.56 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1736 |
| 15:11.24 | RP | hi mickeyl |
| 15:11.28 | koen | mickeyl: it's in full x11 as well |
| 15:11.43 | koen | mickeyl: since diet-x11 is just a configure switch to the same tarball :) |
| 15:12.10 | koen | and xcb got merged |
| 15:12.12 | mickeyl | very good |
| 15:12.14 | mickeyl | yo RP |
| 15:14.47 | RP | squeezeclient is quite neat, it runs on my c7x0 :) |
| 15:14.57 | hrw | someone familiar with that new site/* files? |
| 15:15.11 | hrw | can we get common-common file? |
| 15:15.25 | hrw | mipsel cant build dbus, strace |
| 15:17.08 | RP | hrw: It exists in the form of common-glibc, someone just needs to create it |
| 15:18.38 | RP | hrw: We could add a "common" file easily enough too |
| 15:19.32 | hrw | we would have to |
| 15:19.57 | RP | hrw: Do you want me to add one? |
| 15:20.43 | hrw | RP: someone would have to do it. if you have time for it then it would be great |
| 15:21.30 | RP | hrw: I'm not sure I have the time to fill it but I can make it look for the file... |
| 15:25.36 | hrw | RP: bitbake trunk has problem... |
| 15:25.51 | hrw | RP: MACHINE=mtx-2 DISTRO=angstrom |
| 15:26.09 | hrw | FILESPATH usage is broken |
| 15:26.20 | RP | hrw: Broken how? |
| 15:26.31 | hrw | moment |
| 15:26.42 | hrw | util-linux is a package |
| 15:26.42 | RP | hrw: Can you give me a simplified exmaple of how its failing? |
| 15:27.03 | hrw | RP: it does not check files/ for patch because files/MACHINE/ exists |
| 15:27.16 | hrw | if I copy file from files/ to files/MACHINE/ then it works |
| 15:27.44 | RP | hrw: and this doesn't happen with bitbake 1.6? |
| 15:27.55 | hrw | did not yet tested this way |
| 15:28.19 | RP | hrw: It could be bitbake or OE :-/ |
| 15:29.39 | hrw | sure |
| 15:31.23 | RP | My news years resolution should be to keep a better todo list... |
| 15:32.08 | hrw | I should finally create proper one |
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| 15:36.58 | RP | I started typing a todo list and its scary :-/ |
| 15:37.42 | florian | RP: :-) |
| 15:37.50 | hrw | bootstrap-image/progear is building... |
| 15:39.16 | koen | hrw: binconfig got fixed |
| 15:39.18 | hrw | what do you guys think about splitting tmp/deploy/ipk/ into feeds just in OE? |
| 15:39.29 | hrw | koen: I know - someone tested and closed bug? |
| 15:39.37 | koen | testing it right now |
| 15:39.40 | hrw | thx |
| 15:40.04 | koen | hrw: do you still have the 'build image from feeds' patch somewhere? |
| 15:40.04 | RP | I think I marked it as fixed |
| 15:40.24 | hrw | my build has over 20k packages in ipk/ for i486 i586 i686 armv4t armv5 armv6 sh3 mipsel all native machines... |
| 15:40.31 | hrw | koen: it is in .oz354x |
| 15:40.40 | RP | hrw: The deb package generation does that by default since dpkg doesn't support the idea of architectures quite as well |
| 15:41.03 | hrw | RP: nice |
| 15:41.31 | hrw | koen: mtn log classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass |
| 15:42.02 | koen | hrw: mtn annotate now takes minutes instead of hours |
| 15:42.27 | hrw | koen: Iknow. I use 0.31+32 on one machine |
| 15:42.46 | hrw | RP: good to know ;D |
| 15:43.13 | RP | Things like that just slip my mind. Too much to keep track of... |
| 15:44.23 | mickeyl | i stopped maintaining a todo list, it was too frustrating seeing it getting larger and larger |
| 15:45.23 | hrw | mickeyl: I do not have a device to keep it on |
| 15:45.30 | hrw | phone is too limited |
| 15:45.40 | hrw | pdas are too big or limited (collie) |
| 15:45.45 | RP | mickeyl: I've not done it up until now for that reason... |
| 15:46.09 | RP | I'm now at the stage where I forget about things I wanted to do though :-/ |
| 15:46.33 | RP | I have been using my inbox as a kind of tool for it but its become unmanageable :-( |
| 15:47.02 | mickeyl | so we want to come up with a kick-ass Agenda program for OpenMoko? |
| 15:47.13 | Crofton | I think the trick is to do more .... |
| 15:47.27 | koen | Crofton: to want less :) |
| 15:47.38 | RP | mickeyl: Yes please :) |
| 15:47.44 | Crofton | lower expectations |
| 15:48.06 | hrw | mickeyl: agenda as /good today/ or as good outliner? |
| 15:48.58 | mickeyl | we probably need both |
| 15:49.02 | mickeyl | a good outliner is a challenge |
| 15:49.06 | hrw | yep |
| 15:49.12 | RP | What I'd value is something which I could run on all my machines (pdas, desktop, laptop) |
| 15:49.34 | hrw | I liked agendus on palmos -integrated pim tool |
| 15:50.15 | koen | RP: same app or same datastore? |
| 15:50.34 | chouimat|ibook | koen probably both |
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| 15:53.56 | hrw | 3kg on legs is not comfortable... I would have to look for lighter lptop that the one which Ania has |
| 15:54.24 | RP | koen: same app, support for offline use with syncing to a central datastore ideally |
| 15:54.52 | hrw | xxs1500 is fscked |
| 16:01.02 | hrw | kernel is not fetchable |
| 16:05.47 | hrw | !oebug 1737 |
| 16:05.48 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1737, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-01-01 08:08 |
| 16:05.49 | cdbot2 | * * openembedded(AT)hrw.one.pl: xxs1500 kernel is not fetchable |
| 16:05.50 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1737 |
| 16:11.40 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r589f3143... 10/ (17 files in 3 dirs): site: Start to refactor files to benefit from common site files. Much more work is needed but this is a start |
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| 16:13.06 | RP | Does anyone have any knowledge of samba site config data? |
| 16:16.51 | hrw | nope |
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| 16:23.21 | koen | RP: all I know is that the site files were broken till v8jlene fixed them |
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| 16:23.47 | RP | koen: The samba entries are all very different for arm :-/ |
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| 16:27.37 | hrw | brb |
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| 16:37.15 | likewise | morning fooks, happy new year |
| 16:37.46 | RP | likewise: morning, HNY |
| 16:38.40 | koen | RP: interested in a samba site file I generated on my h2200? |
| 16:38.44 | koen | RP: HNY |
| 16:38.49 | koen | ehm |
| 16:38.51 | koen | likewise: HNY |
| 16:39.23 | RP | koen: I'd be interested in a site file for both uclibc and glibc on arm... |
| 16:39.32 | likewise | HNY2U2 RP, koen |
| 16:39.40 | RP | and on both big/little endian :-/ |
| 16:40.05 | RP | koen: We really need the test suite zecke started... |
| 16:40.21 | koen | I have that suite installed, but it doesn't do much |
| 16:40.36 | RP | koen: Can you add samba support to it? :) |
| 16:40.53 | koen | I have no idea how to hack it |
| 16:42.52 | koen | RP: zecke thingy already has samba.m4 |
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| 16:43.42 | likewise | RP: what kind of test suite did zecke start? |
| 16:45.29 | RP | likewise: contrib/site-conf. Someone could do with giving it some TLC |
| 16:45.38 | RP | koen: Its empty though, it needs filling ;-) |
| 16:46.30 | koen | RP: I extended aclocal.m4 |
| 16:46.34 | likewise | RP: I am interested in a test framework like this, it needs h/w though: http://www.openbios.org/pipermail/linuxbios/2006-December/017658.html |
| 16:46.37 | koen | lets see if that works |
| 16:46.57 | likewise | RP: I'll try to setup something similar to that at our lab. |
| 16:48.42 | RP | koen: basically add samba to aclocal.m4 and copy acinclude.m4 from the samba source over the top of the samba.m4 file |
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| 16:49.52 | RP | koen: It will also need the functions listed in configure.ac :-/ |
| 16:50.15 | koen | didn't pvanhoof have a trick for that in tinymail? |
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| 16:55.37 | RP | koen: Hmm. Its not that simple :-( |
| 16:55.43 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1897dabe... 10/ (1 contrib/site-conf/aclocal.m4): contrib/site-conf: add all m4 files to aclocal.m4 |
| 16:55.56 | koen | it's a start |
| 16:56.32 | likewise | I now once got a "mtn: network error: failed to connect: Connection refused", is that to be expected? 2nd time worked. |
| 16:57.04 | koen | yes, I restarted the server |
| 16:57.27 | likewise | koen: just a matter of bad timing then :-) |
| 16:58.08 | mickeyl | pb_: ping |
| 16:59.55 | hrw | imap on slow link is nightmare |
| 17:00.02 | RP | diff arm-common ix86-common is interesting :-/ |
| 17:00.02 | koen | RP: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/site-files/armv5te-linuxgnueabi.site.samba |
| 17:01.47 | hrw | | /a/home/hrw/devel/build/test/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.1/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: imagetops: hidden symbol `__aeabi_fadd' in /a/home/hrw/devel/build/test/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.1.1/libgcc.a(_addsubsf3.o) is referenced by DSO |
| 17:02.05 | hrw | cups |
| 17:02.32 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd171e547... 10/ (1 site/arm-common site/arm-linux): site: Resort arm-common to match ix86-common, tidy up some further entries |
| 17:02.54 | hrw | looks like time to do new ar build |
| 17:03.36 | RP | koen: Interesting. There are differences between uclibc and glibc :-/ |
| 17:04.11 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 17:04.14 | Jin^eLD | HNY everyone |
| 17:04.26 | hrw | hny jin |
| 17:04.32 | likewise | Jin^eLD: Hi and hny. |
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| 17:04.48 | hrw | HNY always remind me HNY96 virus on amiga |
| 17:04.53 | Jin^eLD | hehe |
| 17:05.16 | likewise | RP: The STAGING_BINDIR does not have to be rewritten to STAGING_BINDIR_NATIVE for *_native*.bb files, correct? |
| 17:05.35 | hrw | my first amiga program was written in highspeed pascal - it was very very simple (and slow) tool to disable this viri in infected fles |
| 17:05.46 | Crofton | hrw, there is a new ompa kernel patch available for 2.6.19 |
| 17:05.54 | Crofton | I haven't tried it yet |
| 17:05.58 | RP | likewise: Correct, since its the same thing for native packages :) |
| 17:06.05 | hrw | Crofton: already in OE |
| 17:06.35 | likewise | RP: yes, but we should choose either one consistently. |
| 17:06.37 | Crofton | cool |
| 17:06.55 | Crofton | I guess I should give it w try on the OSK then? |
| 17:07.18 | likewise | RP: so, STAGING_BINDIR it is, unless a target package requires cross and/or native intermediate tools. |
| 17:07.37 | RP | likewise: I chose STAGING_BINDIR as it saved rewriting half of OE. That sounds fine |
| 17:07.55 | likewise | RP: check, tnx. |
| 17:09.08 | hrw | Crofton: would be nice |
| 17:09.21 | hrw | Crofton: it is marked as not-default because not tested by you |
| 17:09.49 | Crofton | one day we need to make configs for specific hw |
| 17:10.32 | Crofton | since there are a number of board types |
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| 17:10.51 | Crofton | we should mark the configs as OSK specific ... |
| 17:11.05 | hrw | Crofton: ever had omap1710h3 board maybe? |
| 17:11.16 | Crofton | sorry |
| 17:11.32 | Crofton | I only have osk and 770 |
| 17:13.02 | koen | hmmm |
| 17:13.19 | koen | no need for university anymore with youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=6QAE9crPHOY |
| 17:13.36 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rf62e2fac... 10/ (1 site/arm-linux): site/arm-linux: Update samba entries with results from Koen |
| 17:13.53 | hrw | koen: not if you have amd64 |
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| 17:28.39 | mickeyl | happy new year zecke! all the best! health, girls, professional success -- in this order!!!! :D |
| 17:29.02 | zecke | koen: may I use it for that purpose? |
| 17:29.32 | koen | zecke: ? |
| 17:31.19 | zecke | koen: I wasn't sure if I'm allowed to put my webkit git trees ltg.org, I was quite sure it is/was okay with hh.org |
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| 17:31.33 | zecke | also I didn't want to go through the hassle of creating a project |
| 17:31.34 | monsti | hi |
| 17:31.47 | koen | zecke: I told you many times before: it is ol |
| 17:31.55 | koen | zecke: and you don't need to create a project |
| 17:32.01 | monsti | any idea what's the password for the kbdd svn? |
| 17:32.03 | zecke | *shy* |
| 17:32.19 | koen | zecke: and I take offense at people still using that fascist hh.org |
| 17:33.01 | zecke | mickeyl: thanks, I wish the same with s/girls/joy with your wife/ applied |
| 17:33.10 | mickeyl | thanks .) |
| 17:33.22 | mickeyl | although... |
| 17:33.24 | mickeyl | *cough* |
| 17:33.27 | mickeyl | no, forget that ;) |
| 17:35.03 | zecke | koen: the good thing about git is one can easily move :) |
| 17:37.50 | monsti | can somebody please tell me how i can checkout the kbdd source from svn? |
| 17:37.51 | hrw | i zecke - HNY07 |
| 17:38.02 | monsti | there is a password and no anonymouse login |
| 17:38.53 | zecke | hrw: yes? |
| 17:39.15 | koen | monsti: svn checkout svn://projects.linuxtogo.org/svn/kbdd works for me |
| 17:39.29 | mickeyl | ibot: HNY is Happy New Year |
| 17:39.41 | ibot | ...but hny is already something else... |
| 17:39.45 | mickeyl | ~hny |
| 17:39.47 | ibot | ACTION wishes everyone using Debian a very Happy New Year :P |
| 17:39.49 | mickeyl | heh |
| 17:40.02 | monsti | koen: thx! works, too |
| 17:40.03 | koen | ibot: botsnack |
| 17:40.03 | ibot | koen: :) |
| 17:41.23 | monsti | koen: my IR keyboard really sucks :( each key produces a different code everytime i press it! |
| 17:41.55 | monsti | koen: but it's like a ring buffer - after 16 press/releace cycles it starts again |
| 17:42.07 | likewise | monsti: ln -snf /dev/random /dev/kbd ? |
| 17:42.15 | monsti | no not random |
| 17:42.19 | monsti | but cycles |
| 17:42.32 | monsti | i dumped every cycle for every key - no i can position row/col |
| 17:42.36 | monsti | but this is so clumsy |
| 17:42.46 | hrw | s/^i/hi |
| 17:43.56 | hrw | someone used pida? |
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| 17:49.01 | mickeyl | pida? |
| 17:50.40 | mickeyl | ah, that IDE thing |
| 17:50.54 | hrw | yes that one |
| 17:50.57 | mickeyl | looks cool |
| 17:51.06 | mickeyl | will need to try that |
| 17:51.15 | hrw | I will have to check it during next days |
| 17:51.30 | hrw | gvim enhanced with pida... |
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| 17:52.04 | likewise | dmnd, this pc doesn't even have a serial port anymore... |
| 17:52.21 | hrw | likewise: mine has but connector was not included... |
| 17:52.39 | likewise | hrw: Dell E520... pretty much sucks. |
| 17:52.42 | hrw | opefully I ripped it from old PC/AT style machine so will have to connect it one day |
| 17:52.56 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rb413f187... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: Allow base_contains to take an array of values to check for (from poky) |
| 17:53.02 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r5aa90967... 10/ (1 classes/siteinfo.bbclass): siteinfo.bbclass: Demote site files message to debug log level (from poky) |
| 17:53.07 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rf9b735fa... 10/ (1 classes/package.bbclass): package.bbclass: Add fakeroot-native as a depenedncy (from poky) |
| 17:53.08 | likewise | hrw: good point, maybe it's onboard |
| 17:53.11 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r5c1ed624... 10/ (1 classes/image.bbclass classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass): image.bbclass rootfs_ipk.bbclass: Move common functionality into image.bbclass to prepare for rootfs_deb/bbclass (from poky) |
| 17:55.23 | hrw | cThis page contains a modified version of the sharp sdcard driver for Zaurus SL-5500, hacked to support 2GB sd cards. It might also work with 4GB sd cards, but i'm not sure (i can't test). |
| 17:55.30 | hrw | http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/~miguel/zaurus/ |
| 17:56.30 | hrw | it si sharp driver forced to use 512 bytes blocks like it is done in 2.6 kernel |
| 17:56.36 | hrw | s/si/is |
| 17:58.04 | mickeyl | yeah, binary hacking |
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| 18:00.18 | hrw | its good to track OZ wiki |
| 18:06.09 | like|food | hrw: hmm, no internal serial connector, and I can only use one PCIe slot (due to the GPU cooling)... Should have double checked beforehand. |
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| 18:13.28 | hrw | shit happens |
| 18:13.32 | hrw | cu guys |
| 18:21.14 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7ac3268b... 10/ (1 conf/machine/ixp4xxle.conf): ixp4xxle.conf: add tune-xscale |
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| 19:17.42 | Laibsch | HNY everyone! |
| 19:17.53 | Laibsch | The year of OE and openmoko has begun! |
| 19:19.17 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: I see a lot of entries like /home/hrw/devel/build/native/tmp/staging in packages/perl/perl-5.8.7/ Is that intended? |
| 19:19.53 | gremlin[it] | Laibsch hihiihihih |
| 19:20.07 | zecke | Laibsch: happy new year as well |
| 19:34.32 | mmp_ | hmm, the openmoko phones are already publicly available? |
| 19:34.51 | mmp_ | in other words, has anyone already seen/held the hardware? :) |
| 19:39.09 | koen | mmp_: only the devs :) |
| 19:39.29 | mmp_ | koen: including you? :) |
| 19:39.39 | koen | nope |
| 19:39.45 | mmp_ | (the first 500 phones) |
| 19:39.48 | mmp_ | :-( |
| 19:40.23 | mmp_ | yes, but they promised to release 500 (or so) phones to developers in December, as far as I understand... |
| 19:44.56 | mmp | I believe they'll make hardware revision with already included wifi of some kind. I'll be first in the line to buy it then:) |
| 19:45.55 | koen | no wifi in v1 |
| 19:46.02 | koen | maybe in the next model |
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| 20:40.15 | koen | eeks! |
| 20:40.16 | koen | http://blog.pcode.nl/?p=208 |
| 20:40.29 | koen | 2.4 won't die, no matter how hard people try |
| 20:40.59 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r748c040d... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libbacon: gnome cvs moved to svn, so lets use that |
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| 20:42.30 | Jin^eLD | btw, any reason for that? why are people not switching ot 2.6? |
| 20:43.25 | koen | there's the classic "RMK has no -rmk patch for 2.6, so 2.6 doesn't support ARM" |
| 20:44.30 | Jin^eLD | huh? I guess that's beyong my knowledge, since I have no idea what RMK actually is :) |
| 20:44.59 | koen | Russel M King, the maintainer of ARM in linux |
| 20:45.51 | Jin^eLD | aha.. and.. he is no 2.6 fan or is simply nothing special from hin required in order for 2.6 to run? |
| 20:51.29 | mmp | Jin^eLD: (at least from h5400-port view:) there are tons of code to be converted and only few things work as expected. |
| 20:51.30 | Jin^eLD | well yes, I am using 2.6 too |
| 20:51.46 | Jin^eLD | aha.. hmm |
| 20:51.46 | mmp | ... and no one would carry serial console together with his/her ipaq |
| 20:54.02 | CIA-4 | 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r42098e57... 10/ (1 packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.19.bb): Openslug: update svn version to include updated velocity patch and ext3 corruption patch |
| 20:55.30 | koen | Jin^eLD: no, it's much better: 2.6 needs no patch, arm is already supported :) |
| 20:56.09 | Jin^eLD | oh ok :) |
| 20:56.20 | Jin^eLD | I guess now I get it :> |
| 20:59.15 | koen | and you wonder why R&D is so costly |
| 21:01.08 | koen | 1) check for patch |
| 21:01.10 | koen | 2) panic |
| 21:01.15 | koen | 3) hire mvista |
| 21:01.20 | Jin^eLD | uuh |
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| 21:16.32 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdad83638... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ezx-boot-usb: update to svn rev 1922 which adds supports for the ROKR E2 (motorola should get a better spellchecker) |
| 21:20.43 | dion | cool bot.. :) |
| 21:24.32 | niv_one_three | min, does OE run on the motorola cell phone? |
| 21:24.46 | niv_one_three | dion: what am I missing here? |
| 21:25.32 | dion | hmm. i never tried.. Anyway motorola support is very limited by kernel.. |
| 21:26.28 | dion | i only tried to build opie-image with openembedded but with no success |
| 21:27.43 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r49a2d8df... 10/ (1 packages/ezx/ezx-boot-usb-native_0.1.0.bb): ezx-boot-usb: add 0.1.0 release |
| 21:27.54 | dion | niv_one_three: currently i have just compiled kernel from openezx + debian etch rootfs over NFS. (network via USB). Can boot phone over boot_usb (Just send kernel zImage over usb) |
| 21:28.32 | dion | flashed 2.6 kernel + rootfs on SD card works too but phone shuts down after 2 mins |
| 21:33.15 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf80ec3fe... 10/ (1 conf/machine/a780.conf): a780: include opentapi in the default rootfs. opentapi does still need an initscript to start on boot, though |
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| 21:51.22 | Jin^eLD | is lftp broken? |
| 21:51.24 | niv_one_three | wow - tha t is cool |
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| 22:05.01 | zecke | mickey|tv: it looks like lutz got canned :) |
| 22:10.58 | mickey|tv | d'oh really? |
| 22:11.00 | mickey|tv | funny |
| 22:11.02 | mickey|tv | kind of |
| 22:11.17 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: hi |
| 22:11.35 | zecke | http://kdab.net/?page=people |
| 22:11.47 | zecke | mickey|tv: he is missing in action and missing from this site |
| 22:12.09 | niv_one_three | hi mice |
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| 22:12.31 | niv_one_three | just did some rtfm, and found that the OE site, does have them answers |
| 22:12.41 | niv_one_three | feel like an ass.. |
| 22:13.50 | niv_one_three | am i suppose to use familier or openzaurus for my simpad? |
| 22:14.42 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: better to use familier - I think |
| 22:15.06 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: but the tree is not in oe - you have to grap it at handhelds.org |
| 22:15.23 | niv_one_three | well , as this bitbake is so similer to gentoo's portage , I feel like home |
| 22:15.25 | niv_one_three | :-) |
| 22:15.28 | mickey|tv | speaking about funny things |
| 22:15.50 | mickey|tv | it'd take 1 week for someone interested to finish 2.6 on SIMpad |
| 22:15.55 | mickey|tv | then Angstrom would support it |
| 22:15.58 | mickey|tv | *shrug* |
| 22:16.07 | niv_one_three | mickel ? |
| 22:16.16 | mickey|tv | yes? |
| 22:16.26 | niv_one_three | well . seems that lcd driver is no easy chor |
| 22:16.43 | niv_one_three | hi its Niv , may u remeber me from OESF |
| 22:16.47 | mickey|tv | is that so? the mq200 ran fine two years ago |
| 22:16.51 | mickey|tv | under 2.6.something |
| 22:16.53 | niv_one_three | you've being very helpfull |
| 22:16.55 | mickey|tv | thanks to zecke |
| 22:17.34 | niv_one_three | mickey , you helped me when I had the zaurus 5500 |
| 22:17.49 | mickey|tv | bear with me, my memory suffers from me being over 30 |
| 22:17.50 | mickey|tv | ;) |
| 22:18.09 | niv_one_three | but I still dont seem to be able to generate an image for my simpad |
| 22:18.11 | niv_one_three | :-( |
| 22:18.17 | niv_one_three | guess more reading for me |
| 22:18.18 | niv_one_three | .. |
| 22:18.40 | mickey|tv | well, since i stopped maintaing the SIMpad in OE florian and koen were the only ones doing images |
| 22:19.01 | mickey|tv | when did yo compile the last time for SIMpad, guys? |
| 22:19.01 | niv_one_three | ok, here I ask again. what do I need to config in order to build an image for my simpad |
| 22:19.04 | niv_one_three | ? |
| 22:19.20 | mickey|tv | in theory |
| 22:19.24 | mickey|tv | DISTRO = "generic" |
| 22:19.27 | mickey|tv | MACHINE = "SIMpad" |
| 22:19.33 | mickey|tv | and time |
| 22:19.38 | mickey|tv | in practice, no idea |
| 22:19.48 | niv_one_three | after I set the linux version to 2.4 in the local.conf - I did manage to initiate a build |
| 22:20.00 | niv_one_three | 10x |
| 22:20.22 | niv_one_three | I did use these two |
| 22:20.49 | niv_one_three | now mr_mice suggest to grab a build from hh.org |
| 22:20.54 | niv_one_three | is that correct? |
| 22:21.03 | koen | mickey|tv: DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1-oabi" |
| 22:21.23 | koen | niv_one_three: no, hh.org only has outdated and buggy stuff |
| 22:21.27 | niv_one_three | where does handhelds.org in the whole world of GNU on pda? |
| 22:21.49 | koen | nowhere |
| 22:22.22 | niv_one_three | I mean is it just a place to read old news, and sign up for current mailing list? |
| 22:22.22 | Jin^eLD | bye everyone |
| 22:22.25 | niv_one_three | I am really asking |
| 22:22.31 | niv_one_three | got no clue |
| 22:23.09 | koen | niv_one_three: everything you need is on openembedded.org |
| 22:23.10 | niv_one_three | oh , ok then I will continue reading it |
| 22:23.38 | niv_one_three | thanks koen - the documantion seems real clear |
| 22:24.12 | niv_one_three | and finally , where may I read about when anstrong - will - be avail to simpad? |
| 22:24.32 | koen | niv_one_three: if people want to support it, yes |
| 22:24.59 | niv_one_three | I am still young here, but I want to help with it |
| 22:25.24 | niv_one_three | I am happy to find a nice pas time work |
| 22:25.34 | niv_one_three | this job is driving me nuts |
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| 22:25.51 | koen | mickey|tv: wasn't the working driver gpl incompatible? |
| 22:26.07 | mickey|tv | at the end of the day, no |
| 22:26.25 | niv_one_three | so we do have a source to start with? |
| 22:26.27 | mickey|tv | IIRC it turned out that MediaQ released it through mvista or whatever in a GPL compatible way |
| 22:26.29 | mickey|tv | IIRC |
| 22:26.38 | mickey|tv | zecke is the veteran-expert here |
| 22:27.14 | zecke | mickey|tv: you assume that MVista releases are GPL compat? |
| 22:27.29 | mickey|tv | no, i just remember some statement about that particular driver |
| 22:27.34 | mickey|tv | vaguely remember... |
| 22:27.35 | koen | like the SDIO stacks they released a few years back |
| 22:27.35 | mickey|tv | that is |
| 22:27.39 | koen | and had to pull... |
| 22:30.46 | koen | mickey|tv: I'm confident irex will release userspace Q1, but there's still the binary only flash driver holding back the 2.6 port |
| 22:30.46 | koen | I get the idea that 'management' doesn't want to spend resources on gpl compliance |
| 22:30.46 | koen | someone with an iliad should exercise their GPL right and make a proper request |
| 22:30.47 | koen | ehm, wait |
| 22:30.52 | koen | someone with an iliad should donate it to me, and I'll do a proper request :D |
| 22:31.25 | mickey|tv | heh |
| 22:32.18 | niv_one_three | ok, all this is not clear to me |
| 22:32.30 | niv_one_three | iliad =$$ ? |
| 22:32.33 | niv_one_three | or what? |
| 22:32.43 | mickey|tv | kind of |
| 22:32.46 | niv_one_three | and is the spoec open or not? |
| 22:32.51 | mickey|tv | something over 700 iirc |
| 22:32.56 | mickey|tv | EUR, that is |
| 22:33.31 | niv_one_three | well it is a haffty amount of moeny |
| 22:33.55 | mickey|tv | yeah, for a "ebook reader" |
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| 22:34.33 | niv_one_three | so , the company that made th mq200 is still in buiesness and doesnt want to share the spec.. |
| 22:34.36 | niv_one_three | I c |
| 22:34.50 | niv_one_three | and dont we have a reverse eng option? |
| 22:35.15 | koen | €650 |
| 22:35.15 | niv_one_three | I mean , its just a matter of reading the bus right? |
| 22:35.15 | mickey|tv | s/reverse eng/clean room/ |
| 22:35.15 | zecke | niv_one_three: mq200 is designed by mediaq, mediaq was bought by Nvidia |
| 22:35.30 | zecke | niv_one_three: just google for the pdf and you will find it |
| 22:35.33 | JustinP | anyone know why /proc/bus/usb/devices wouldn't exist after a USB device is plugged in and appropriate modules loaded? |
| 22:35.54 | niv_one_three | oh ok, I see |
| 22:35.55 | koen | JustinP: you didn't mount usb(dev)fs? |
| 22:36.20 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: http://opensimpad.org/images/d/d6/MQ-200.pdf |
| 22:37.06 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: I think I had a disconnect at a unclever moment. was You talking about the 2.6 Kernel? |
| 22:37.32 | zecke | mr_nice: "Proprietary and Confidential" might not be the most clever act to host it |
| 22:38.12 | mr_nice | zecke: I have writtten them a few times - they didn't answer my mails |
| 22:38.13 | JustinP | koen: ah....well, it's angstrom... |
| 22:38.14 | niv_one_three | ok , It is l8 here in Israel, and I am tired |
| 22:38.22 | niv_one_three | but this is getting intersting,, |
| 22:38.32 | koen | JustinP: sounds like the inittab in .dev doesn't mount usbfs |
| 22:38.53 | JustinP | ok, I'll see if I can mount it manually... |
| 22:39.39 | koen | echo "usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0" >> /etc/fstab ; mount -a |
| 22:40.03 | niv_one_three | sweet , we do have the spec, what about a source some one allready did? |
| 22:40.23 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: there is Zeckes source or? |
| 22:41.05 | zecke | lineo wrote a uclinix mq200 driver |
| 22:41.21 | niv_one_three | where may I see the code? |
| 22:41.22 | JustinP | not to mentio n angstrom can't shutdown/reboot correctly.....and other things |
| 22:41.39 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: git clone http://handhelds.org/~zecke/simpad/linux-2.6/.git linux-2.6 |
| 22:42.17 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: if you have a low internet connection I can tar only the latest branch and upload it for you |
| 22:42.30 | niv_one_three | no need |
| 22:42.53 | niv_one_three | "http transport not supported, rebuild Git with curl support" |
| 22:43.01 | niv_one_three | min ppl |
| 22:43.06 | koen | JustinP: file a bug |
| 22:43.35 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: then do a wget -r http://handhelds.org/~zecke/simpad/linux-2.6/.git |
| 22:45.05 | niv_one_three | its on now |
| 22:45.07 | niv_one_three | ok |
| 22:45.18 | niv_one_three | I m off 2 sleep |
| 22:45.27 | niv_one_three | see you ppl tomorrow night |
| 22:45.31 | niv_one_three | take care |
| 22:45.52 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: after you are getting all the files you can do a git clone linux-2.6/.git/ ../Zeckes.Kernel.Gittree |
| 22:46.30 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: but doing a find ./ -name index.html* -delete before could be usefull |
| 22:46.48 | niv_one_three | ?? |
| 22:47.04 | niv_one_three | will ask tommorow |
| 22:47.10 | niv_one_three | 10x fo now |
| 22:47.12 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: ok |
| 22:47.22 | mr_nice | niv_one_three: you will see ;) |
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| 22:59.21 | koen | Laibsch: new toy for you: |
| 23:00.47 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r78778155... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/kanjipad_svn.bb): kanjipad: add svn version |
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| 23:05.28 | Laibsch | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.06 | Laibsch | Thanks, koen. I guess this should run under GPE and even without a keyboard. |
| 23:06.15 | koen | it should |
| 23:06.18 | Laibsch | openmoko, here I come. |
| 23:06.27 | Laibsch | Where was the order form again? |
| 23:06.31 | Laibsch | ;-) |
| 23:06.46 | koen | Laibsch: http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/kanjipad/trunk/README?rev=10&view=markup |
| 23:07.48 | Laibsch | hm, no kana? that is unfortunate. |
| 23:07.54 | Laibsch | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.06 | mickey|tv | ;) |
| 23:08.08 | mickey|tv | g'night |
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| 23:08.42 | Laibsch | good night |
| 23:08.48 | Laibsch | mickey|zzZZzz: |
| 23:16.13 | greentux | somebody forgot the beerparty in the topc... I assume it starts 23. evening... |
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| 23:38.40 | koen | likewise: libusb has been fixed for powerpc :) |
| 23:40.30 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r733cecb1... 10/ (1 packages/libusb/libusb_0.1.12.bb): libusb: fix compilation for powerpc |
| 23:48.47 | likewise | koen: nice, closed the bug. |
| 23:49.16 | likewise | koen: I have a .bb pending for audio support on the efika - experimental. |
| 23:49.28 | koen | likewise: ah, cool |
| 23:49.43 | koen | likewise: that's why sound doesn't work :) |
| 23:50.16 | likewise | will commit the .bb in a minute. |
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| 23:50.55 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r787ba7a9... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/kanjipad_svn.bb): kanjipad: correct some cflags |
| 23:52.41 | koen | ibot: botmail for likewise: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2006-December/000046.html might interest your (ti davinci stuff) |