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| 00:26.44 | Laibsch | If I inherit a from an inc file and b in the bb file itself, is that the same as inherit a b straight in the bb file? |
| 00:30.12 | Crofton_ | kholz, I am going home now, I'll check back in later |
| 00:30.29 | kholz | Okay |
| 00:30.39 | Crofton_ | have you made progress? |
| 00:30.43 | kholz | Getting OE right now, will go home later. |
| 00:30.50 | Crofton_ | ok |
| 00:30.54 | kholz | yeah. Just got bitbake. |
| 00:30.59 | Crofton_ | ok |
| 00:31.02 | kholz | now I'm downloading OE |
| 00:31.11 | Crofton_ | grabbing the montone db will take a while |
| 00:31.14 | kholz | I'm skipping gentoo's bitbake ebuild |
| 00:31.37 | Crofton_ | ah |
| 00:31.48 | Crofton_ | I am not familiar with gentoo |
| 00:31.49 | kholz | yeah, thanks for the heads up |
| 00:32.08 | kholz | It is way clean. |
| 00:32.21 | Crofton_ | the first build takes a long time, it has to fetch source |
| 00:32.24 | kholz | and you've got control over everything. |
| 00:32.31 | Crofton_ | and build the tool chain |
| 00:32.44 | Crofton_ | my friend uses gentoo |
| 00:33.01 | Crofton_ | I was amused at how long it took to install subversion on his slow laptop :) |
| 00:33.22 | kholz | yeah. Everything is from source, which can be a pain if you are impatient ;[ |
| 00:33.38 | Crofton_ | yep |
| 00:33.49 | Crofton_ | How much longer will you work today? |
| 00:34.01 | kholz | maybe 3 or 4 hours. |
| 00:34.06 | Crofton_ | ok |
| 00:34.09 | kholz | Depends on how hungry I get. |
| 00:34.13 | Crofton_ | I'll log back in when i get home |
| 00:34.17 | kholz | :) |
| 00:34.20 | Crofton_ | heh, my pizza is on the way |
| 00:34.25 | kholz | Cool, thanks |
| 00:34.30 | kholz | awesome. What kind? |
| 00:34.44 | tmbinc | where can i find gnu-configize? i've never seen that before |
| 00:35.31 | kholz | Are you sure you don't mean gnu-configure? |
| 00:35.36 | tmbinc | yes |
| 00:35.38 | tmbinc | ah |
| 00:35.44 | tmbinc | seems to be part of gnu-config-native |
| 00:36.00 | kholz | k |
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| 01:24.26 | HopsNBarley | latest "gcc-4.1.1-pr13685-1.patch" file isn't going in. Looks like it could be a CRLF problem (ie, they are there) which is confusing patch. |
| 01:25.01 | Crofton | this is with surrent metadata? |
| 01:25.16 | Crofton | wish I had left the buid at work on screen ... |
| 01:25.28 | HopsNBarley | just did pull/up before Laibsch's commit above. |
| 01:25.42 | HopsNBarley | it looks like a simple fix: just CRLF in the patch. |
| 01:25.50 | Crofton | hmm |
| 01:25.56 | Crofton | I am still building |
| 01:26.05 | Crofton | I did my pull around 6:30 or so |
| 01:26.09 | HopsNBarley | lemme see if that's all there is to it.... |
| 01:26.59 | Laibsch | HopsNBarley: What package? |
| 01:27.16 | HopsNBarley | gcc-cross-initial-4.1.1-r9 |
| 01:28.21 | HopsNBarley | testing a fix now... |
| 01:30.11 | HopsNBarley | that indeed solves the broken patch problem. |
| 01:31.31 | HopsNBarley | i'll push that here in a sec. |
| 01:32.08 | Laibsch | OK |
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| 01:39.47 | CIA-4 | 03awilcox 07org.oe.dev * rcd737e02... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/gcc-4.1.1-pr13685-1.patch): Remove the CRLF problem in this patch. |
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| 02:37.06 | billytwowilly | anyone in or around Edmonton, Alberta, Canada want a free palm tungsten t2 to try and port linux to? How about a free ipaq 3650? |
| 02:39.44 | billytwowilly | or anyone willing to pay shipping on either of the above? If not, they are going to goodwill and some homeless guy is getting pimped out with gadgets. |
| 02:39.44 | Crofton | kholz, any progress? |
| 02:40.03 | Crofton | billytwowilly, many of the good guys are in EU |
| 02:40.09 | Crofton | and they are asleep right now |
| 02:40.55 | Crofton | you could send them to me and I could try and find some guys to work on the, |
| 02:41.02 | Crofton | I just do not have time :( |
| 02:41.40 | billytwowilly | Heh. I would if you pay shipping. I just don't want to throw out functional hardware. |
| 02:42.56 | billytwowilly | oh yah. It has a weird usb plug. Lemme see if I have the cable still. THe plug on the player is the same as on the computer. |
| 02:43.25 | billytwowilly | Heh. I even have the usb cable. |
| 02:43.41 | billytwowilly | damn. |
| 02:43.46 | billytwowilly | wrong channle. sorry. |
| 02:47.42 | kholz | Crofton: The DB didn't compile, I'm re-emerging my system now |
| 02:48.05 | Crofton | what do mean DB didn;t compile? |
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| 03:08.32 | kholz | Crofton: Sorry for being so unresponsive. I'm yakkin with my boss right now. |
| 03:09.34 | kholz | Crofton: The monotone didn't compile right. |
| 03:09.39 | kholz | But I'm working on it. |
| 03:48.28 | psokolovsky_ | billytwowilly: Hi! Still online? I wouldn't mind getting OMAP device to hack on. ;-) |
| 03:49.00 | billytwowilly | hello |
| 03:49.14 | billytwowilly | omap would be the T2 right? |
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| 04:14.47 | billytwowilly | psokolovsky_: having computer trouble a bit, so I may have missed something you said... |
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| 08:32.08 | niv_one_three | oh hi all |
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| 08:55.22 | XorA | morning |
| 08:59.21 | vlo | good morning |
| 09:01.06 | koen | good morning all |
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| 09:15.22 | zecke | hey |
| 09:15.50 | koen | hey zecke |
| 09:16.17 | zecke | I'm such a moron, two hours too early... |
| 09:17.14 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r923e93be... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:17.14 | CIA-4 | glib-2.0: update to 2.12.6 |
| 09:17.15 | CIA-4 | * also create glib.inc |
| 09:17.23 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0761b04e... 10/ (1 packages/pango/pango.inc packages/pango/pango_1.15.2.bb): |
| 09:17.23 | CIA-4 | pango: update to 1.15.2, create pango.inc |
| 09:17.23 | CIA-4 | Higlights from the announcement: |
| 09:17.23 | CIA-4 | * Optimizations: |
| 09:17.23 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.26 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.28 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.39 | XorA | :-D |
| 09:19.16 | rwhitby | Is the Angstrom build failing on portmap for anyone else? |
| 09:19.48 | koen | rwhitby: hrw fixed that yesterday |
| 09:19.49 | XorA | rwhitby: canot strip? |
| 09:20.30 | rwhitby | yeah. let me make sure I updated properly. |
| 09:21.42 | XorA | why has /. got news that debian is late, debian is always late :-( |
| 09:21.46 | XorA | :-D |
| 09:22.11 | koen | koen@bitbake:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/images$ ls ../ipk/ | grep portmap |
| 09:22.12 | koen | portmap_5-24-r0_armv4t.ipk |
| 09:22.12 | koen | portmap_5-24-r0_armv5te.ipk |
| 09:22.12 | koen | portmap_5-24-r0_armv6.ipk |
| 09:22.13 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:22.16 | koen | built last night |
| 09:22.16 | rwhitby | portmap just needed a clean and rebuild. I must have updated just at the wrong time for the PR bump or something. |
| 09:22.18 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 09:22.51 | hrw|work | ah.. I forgot to bump PR... |
| 09:23.38 | rwhitby | I'd better attend to our autobuilders then, or they will be permanently hung. |
| 09:23.48 | koen | XorA: http://dunc-bank.zoy.org/ |
| 09:24.06 | rwhitby | have people seen the latest debian-arm catastrophe? |
| 09:24.18 | XorA | rwhitby: what happened? |
| 09:24.32 | rwhitby | all debian arm uploads have been stopped |
| 09:25.24 | hrw|work | rwhitby: bump PR |
| 09:26.28 | zecke | rwhitby: is the 8-way opteron and qemu guilty? |
| 09:26.36 | rwhitby | yep. http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/12/msg00154.html |
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| 09:27.03 | zecke | lol, he wondered about these mystic segfaults... |
| 09:27.42 | greentux | morning |
| 09:28.38 | zecke | rwhitby: use the tinderclient again, this will automatically clean failed packages :) |
| 09:28.48 | XorA | so arm ubuntu starting soon? |
| 09:29.19 | koen | rwhitby: I lost faith in debian when when the *paid* developers for armel turned out to be completely incompetent and several companies started funding parallel armel ports |
| 09:30.58 | XorA | debian is obsolete, OE is the true word of God :-) |
| 09:31.17 | koen | XorA: at least to of those efforts use OE to bootstrap debian :D |
| 09:32.46 | koen | s/to/2/ somewhere |
| 09:34.54 | XorA | koen: yeah I get emails from Neil Williams |
| 09:37.44 | koen | XorA: who's Neill WIlliams? |
| 09:39.10 | XorA | koen: works on emdebbian, was at Linuxworld |
| 09:39.25 | koen | emdebian is still alive? |
| 09:39.51 | XorA | koen: Im not sure, I think OE might be swaying them :-) |
| 09:40.23 | koen | the whole 'seperate debian/ dirs for embedded stuff' always seemed like a dead end to me |
| 09:43.13 | XorA | should sneak in an Angstrom for x86/x86_64/ppc/* that uses apt and dpkg :-) |
| 09:46.32 | hrw|work | http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2006/12/20#20061220-smc_wskp100 |
| 09:47.52 | XorA | koen: what does that gain? |
| 09:48.07 | koen | XorA: 30% size decrease |
| 09:48.17 | koen | which helps a lot when you only have 32MB ram |
| 09:48.20 | XorA | koen: I am interested, have c7x0 spare :-) |
| 09:49.54 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:49.58 | koen | ext2 on mtd.... |
| 09:50.01 | koen | ~lart skype |
| 09:50.13 | XorA | skype? |
| 09:50.19 | koen | http://wiki.gpl-devices.org/index.php/SMC_WSKP100G#Serial_Console |
| 09:50.42 | zecke | koen: that is funny, they use Qt for their skype |
| 09:50.59 | zecke | koen: and these errors are fun as well.. "deepsleep off!!!!" |
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| 09:52.11 | XorA | koen: you got one? |
| 09:52.20 | koen | XorA: no, harald got one |
| 09:54.16 | XorA | koen: so how do I turn on thumbieness? |
| 09:58.24 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r76e7f9f8... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tune-thumb.conf): tune-thumb: add tune file to enable thumb stuff on armvXt |
| 09:58.40 | koen | XorA: have a look at that :) |
| 09:59.39 | zecke | mickey|sports: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/opie-devel/31/3181.html lol |
| 09:59.53 | zecke | mickey|sports: funny that lorn said Qt2 is good enough... |
| 10:01.08 | zecke | lol flash on trolltech's website, now they are completely evil... |
| 10:01.46 | koen | XorA: include that tune file at the end of your machine.conf |
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| 10:04.53 | hrw|work | koen: about that mail - I do not read it this way |
| 10:05.54 | koen | hrw|work: what mail? |
| 10:08.03 | hrw|work | http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/opie-devel/31/3181.html |
| 10:08.35 | koen | hrw|work: ah, you mean s/koen/zecke/ :) |
| 10:08.43 | hrw|work | ops. |
| 10:08.47 | hrw|work | too low coffee |
| 10:09.03 | hrw|work | time to start audi day |
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| 10:10.51 | XorA | koen: does thumb have a performacnce hit? |
| 10:10.53 | likewise | someone using the vsftpd package? |
| 10:12.42 | koen | XorA: the performance hit usually evens itself out due to faster loading times |
| 10:14.05 | XorA | koen: cool |
| 10:14.13 | XorA | ~lart collie for no thumb |
| 10:14.26 | koen | XorA: it would be great for poodle |
| 10:14.29 | XorA | trolls obviously look like the simpsons |
| 10:14.57 | XorA | oh yeah, there is one of those in my drawer |
| 10:15.08 | hrw|work | XorA: poodle, tosa, c700/750 |
| 10:15.30 | XorA | tosa hidden round here somewhere as well |
| 10:16.24 | XorA | gah, why cant I find any examples of how to use s3c24xx bitbanged spi |
| 10:19.02 | hrw|work | I hope that kde4 will be more split then kde3... |
| 10:20.41 | hrw|work | libpng 1.2.15beta in Debian got patch to add some legacy symbols. just for info if someone will have problem |
| 10:21.01 | koen | s/legagy/internal/ ? |
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| 10:21.25 | XorA | koen: yeah, unfix the library to fix the apps :-) |
| 10:21.32 | hrw|work | legacy |
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| 10:31.31 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: ping |
| 10:31.38 | Laibsch | good morning everyone. |
| 10:31.48 | hrw|work | hi Laibsch |
| 10:31.54 | koen | hey Laibsch |
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| 10:43.11 | likewise | hi Laibsch |
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| 11:03.11 | greentux | hrw|work: and zecke quits :) |
| 11:03.19 | hrw|work | 21 12:02 < zecke> off to class |
| 11:06.55 | XorA | koen: unfortuneately glibc isnt thumb compatible http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/eY0UCm65.html |
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| 11:12.42 | hrw|work_ | XorA: want to check mplayer rebuild on collie/3.5.4 |
| 11:12.43 | hrw|work_ | ? |
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| 11:17.42 | XorA | hrw|work_: you uploaded one to upgrades? |
| 11:17.51 | XorA | hrw|work_: I tested the one I build from that recipe |
| 11:20.54 | hrw|work_ | XorA: not yet - but built one |
| 11:21.07 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r740568b1... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): granule: unify, add CVS bb file |
| 11:21.09 | XorA | hrw|work_: cant test until tonight, collie is in cradle |
| 11:21.40 | XorA | I decided carrying three Z's with me was excessive |
| 11:21.52 | hrw|work_ | ok |
| 11:22.42 | hrw|work_ | XorA: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/xora/ |
| 11:23.12 | XorA | hrw|work_: no mplayer.*collie.ipk |
| 11:23.20 | hrw|work_ | ah.. right |
| 11:23.39 | hrw|work_ | I forgot that it has to be collie exact |
| 11:24.09 | XorA | I figured that noexecstack is sensible due to the number of hacks via AVI flying around at the moment |
| 11:25.43 | Laibsch | XorA: ;-) granule is actually a package I work on (see added CVS bb file). Seized the opportunity to do good practice. Other than that, I work on bug 1688 from A to Z. |
| 11:26.30 | koen | Laibsch: i added a glib.inc and pango.inc today, but only made the most recent versions use it |
| 11:26.43 | Laibsch | koen: Well done. |
| 11:36.25 | Laibsch | BTW, if I inherit A from an inc file and B in the bb file itself, is that the same as inherit A B straight in the bb file? |
| 11:41.59 | likewise | Laibsch: if A is needed by every includer of the inc file, it would probably make sense to leave it in the .inc file |
| 11:42.19 | likewise | but I am a dumb noob, so I might oversee something hairy. |
| 11:43.17 | niv_one_three | smal question, in order to have open embedded I need to install monotone, but when I run the bitbake , it asks to install git |
| 11:43.23 | XorA | likewise: this is not the FSF we dont have strange hairy beings :-) |
| 11:43.29 | niv_one_three | isnt it a redundency? |
| 11:43.50 | XorA | niv_one_three: no, some recipes use git repos |
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| 11:44.07 | niv_one_three | XorA - oh ok |
| 11:44.08 | likewise | niv_one_three: the requirements for OE are more than monotone alone. |
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| 11:44.40 | niv_one_three | I will write a newbie guide at open simpad - once I know how to build an image |
| 11:44.53 | niv_one_three | that way - it wont that dificullet for others |
| 11:45.37 | niv_one_three | I found no mention of open simpad, should I use open zaurus - for my simpad? |
| 11:46.25 | niv_one_three | as I am new here, I want to say hi to all, and thanks for OE |
| 11:47.03 | niv_one_three | My name is Niv and I did the bluetooth hack in my simpad, pictures are at oesf |
| 11:47.25 | hrw|work_ | [hrw@misc1 test]$ for machine in omap5912osk progear c7x0 spitz h2200 h5000 efika e680 smdk2440 rt3000;do echo "MACHINE='$machine'">conf/auto.conf;echo $machine;bitbake bootstrap-image;done |
| 11:47.25 | XorA | oesf died |
| 11:47.42 | woglinde | niv the simpad hasnt seen maintaince since 3 months |
| 11:47.46 | woglinde | because I have no time |
| 11:48.03 | niv_one_three | woglinde |
| 11:48.14 | niv_one_three | ok, I will try to get in to it |
| 11:48.37 | woglinde | niv I started to convert the kernel.confs do task-base |
| 11:48.42 | niv_one_three | hrw: was this line for me? |
| 11:48.48 | woglinde | but didnt check in soemhing |
| 11:48.49 | hrw|work_ | no |
| 11:49.06 | hrw|work | niv_one_three: I just started small test build |
| 11:49.20 | niv_one_three | woglinde: pls give me some pointers , like, what DISTRO is |
| 11:49.28 | woglinde | you can use |
| 11:49.33 | niv_one_three | hrw: sorry |
| 11:49.39 | woglinde | openzaurus-unstable |
| 11:49.43 | niv_one_three | ok |
| 11:50.02 | niv_one_three | do I also need to put down "arm" |
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| 11:50.15 | niv_one_three | in that other definition |
| 11:50.31 | woglinde | hm you mean in local.conf? |
| 11:50.34 | woglinde | no |
| 11:50.40 | woglinde | only define the kernel |
| 11:50.48 | woglinde | but it will not work with .dev |
| 11:50.55 | woglinde | because its not task-base |
| 11:51.04 | woglinde | converted |
| 11:51.40 | niv_one_three | I also need TARGET_ARCH = ?? an machine |
| 11:51.44 | niv_one_three | and MACHINE |
| 11:52.16 | niv_one_three | woglinde: I see I need to put more effort |
| 11:52.16 | woglinde | sorry my work is at home and my head is like a sieve |
| 11:52.52 | niv_one_three | woglinde: in order to hack the bluetooth patch in - is there an older version - I may use? |
| 11:53.01 | woglinde | no |
| 11:53.09 | niv_one_three | I c |
| 11:53.10 | woglinde | is your bluetooth patch for 2.6? |
| 11:53.18 | niv_one_three | no its for 2.4 |
| 11:53.24 | woglinde | 2.4 is long dead |
| 11:53.29 | niv_one_three | can the simpad do 2.6 ?? |
| 11:53.38 | woglinde | yes it can |
| 11:53.42 | niv_one_three | WOW |
| 11:53.51 | niv_one_three | 2.6 = udev |
| 11:53.52 | woglinde | but the mq200 driver needs a little love |
| 11:54.13 | niv_one_three | I soldered a bluetooth module to the GPIO |
| 11:54.30 | niv_one_three | also soldered a SD/MMC to GPIO |
| 11:54.33 | woglinde | but I need to have time and must convice zecke for a hack session |
| 11:54.43 | niv_one_three | I see |
| 11:54.43 | woglinde | yes we know |
| 11:54.54 | woglinde | the documentation is open |
| 11:54.59 | niv_one_three | do you have a paypal acount? |
| 11:54.59 | woglinde | for the mq200 |
| 11:55.02 | woglinde | noe |
| 11:55.05 | woglinde | but zecke has |
| 11:55.17 | woglinde | but zecke lacks also time |
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| 11:55.38 | woglinde | he zecke |
| 11:55.41 | niv_one_three | I got no clue as to what mq200 is |
| 11:55.46 | woglinde | zecke when will hack mq200? |
| 11:56.02 | niv_one_three | please give me one source to do my home work and read |
| 11:56.28 | niv_one_three | got a long weekend - to try and understand more |
| 11:57.00 | zecke | woglinde: if you join us when evening at the congress you can force me to hack a sane mq200 driver |
| 11:57.29 | niv_one_three | zecke: pls point me to your paypal acount |
| 11:57.53 | zecke | I don't have one anymore :) |
| 11:58.23 | hrw|work | forgot pass? |
| 11:58.26 | zecke | I'm getting enough appreciation 'at work' |
| 11:58.41 | zecke | hrw|work: hehe, no I remember this one |
| 11:58.50 | woglinde | hm Oh I forget that with paypal |
| 11:58.53 | woglinde | forgot |
| 11:59.18 | zecke | woglinde: I created a new one and they transfered the money... but I still need to spend it :} |
| 11:59.50 | zecke | woglinde: so reserve one night and we hack whatever you want |
| 12:00.24 | niv_one_three | ok, I just thought to help you make the right choice :-) |
| 12:00.41 | woglinde | hehe |
| 12:00.46 | woglinde | hm |
| 12:00.56 | niv_one_three | any way, I would be glad to help in this |
| 12:01.06 | woglinde | we need an other day for play nfsu2 |
| 12:01.08 | niv_one_three | maybe on the documantation side.. |
| 12:01.49 | niv_one_three | woglinde : pls /msg me your email or IM |
| 12:02.01 | woglinde | niv sorry I have no time |
| 12:02.04 | niv_one_three | I want to keep in touch |
| 12:02.09 | woglinde | to answer you more questions |
| 12:02.16 | woglinde | look here |
| 12:02.26 | woglinde | we are often around |
| 12:02.37 | niv_one_three | cool |
| 12:02.44 | niv_one_three | thanks then |
| 12:03.05 | niv_one_three | oh -- if oesf is dead - where may I get updates? |
| 12:03.12 | niv_one_three | only mailing lists? |
| 12:03.15 | niv_one_three | which ml? |
| 12:03.25 | woglinde | hm oe? |
| 12:03.30 | woglinde | or simpad? |
| 12:03.44 | niv_one_three | ok, I will subscribe to oe |
| 12:03.48 | hrw|work | ERROR: No providers of runtime build target hostap-conf (for ['/home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/tasks/task-base.bb']) |
| 12:03.51 | hrw|work | NOTE: Removing failed runtime build target hostap-conf |
| 12:03.54 | hrw|work | NOTE: Removing failed build target task-base |
| 12:03.56 | hrw|work | fsck. |
| 12:04.11 | niv_one_three | shounds interestiong to see 2.6 on my simpad |
| 12:04.13 | hrw|work | bitbake -b hostap-conf.bb works |
| 12:04.45 | hrw|work | ideas? |
| 12:05.02 | woglinde | hrw lol |
| 12:05.07 | woglinde | when not you |
| 12:05.16 | woglinde | who than shoudl know |
| 12:05.20 | hrw|work | ;DD |
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| 12:06.31 | hrw|work | found |
| 12:06.53 | woglinde | hehe |
| 12:09.51 | zecke | ~oesf |
| 12:09.55 | ibot | [oesf] rumour has it, oesf is newer name of ZUG - it provides forum for Zaurus/Ipaq/Simpad/etc users (see zug). It has nothing in common with OpenEmbedded (except for the first two letters), see http://www.oesf.org/ |
| 12:09.58 | zecke | niv_one_three: we have nothing to do with oesf :) |
| 12:10.34 | niv_one_three | so where is the open embeded forum? |
| 12:10.51 | XorA | niv_one_three: here |
| 12:11.05 | woglinde | xora *g* |
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| 12:11.14 | niv_one_three | also what is the right setting of MACHINE , DISTRO etc to build opie-image for simpad? |
| 12:11.23 | niv_one_three | assuning it will be fixed.. |
| 12:11.36 | hrw|work | machine=simpad distro=openzaurus-unstable or generic |
| 12:12.09 | niv_one_three | I used DISTRO="openzaurus-unsatable" and kernel 2.6 and arh=arm - but it still yells |
| 12:12.26 | niv_one_three | hrw: thanks |
| 12:12.44 | niv_one_three | I just want to leave the locl.conf in order |
| 12:12.46 | hrw|work | zecke: can I get rights to kick builds from tinderbox? |
| 12:13.04 | hrw|work | zecke: or can you kick some for me? |
| 12:13.30 | hrw|work | zecke: OpenEmbeddedBuilds/hrw-test-build Linux 2.6.9-34.0.1.EL Dep is to kick |
| 12:19.16 | zecke | hrw|work: kicking need to be implemented client side :) |
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| 12:20.06 | hrw|work | zecke: ok - so we will have stalled build there ;) |
| 12:20.42 | hrw|work | koen: I'm building angstrom-2007.1/bootstrap-image for some known and some random choosen machines |
| 12:21.09 | koen | hrw|work: cool |
| 12:21.17 | koen | hrw|work: file bugs if something breaks |
| 12:21.50 | hrw|work | koen: this build will rather not finish today and I will be offline for xmas rather |
| 12:22.09 | hrw|work | hm. maybe I will do build for ALL machines instead... |
| 12:22.17 | koen | I'll be online, but busy with this !@#&*@&$#*@ php project |
| 12:23.15 | hrw|work | starting from Feb I will be able to FORGET php ;!:D |
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| 12:25.21 | koen | heh |
| 12:25.44 | koen | first job for hrw: build webadmin for $newdevice |
| 12:25.51 | Jin^eLD | re |
| 12:26.02 | woglinde | hi koen |
| 12:26.12 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 12:26.34 | woglinde | damned theoretical computer sience |
| 12:26.53 | hrw|work | koen: http://pastebin.ca/287342 |
| 12:26.57 | hrw|work | koen: suggestions for it? |
| 12:27.16 | koen | hrw|work: don't build two images in one cmdline |
| 12:27.30 | koen | do_rootfs lacks locking with bitbake |
| 12:27.31 | hrw|work | koen: rootfs clash? |
| 12:27.33 | zecke | woglinde: why? |
| 12:27.46 | woglinde | zecke its complicate |
| 12:28.14 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.14 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.32 | hrw|work | koen: nothing more to change? |
| 12:28.41 | koen | nothing comes to mind |
| 12:28.44 | hrw|work | ok |
| 12:28.59 | hrw|work | koen: will start then. it will be tinderboxed so you can track it |
| 12:29.18 | koen | hrw|work: I suspect it will break at gnutls |
| 12:29.42 | koen | hrw|work: gnutls (or one of its deps) gets spurious -I<staging of some other arch> |
| 12:30.03 | hrw|work | pkg-config suspected or binconfig |
| 12:30.19 | zecke | koen: maybe we should something like -legal-dir to gcc |
| 12:30.37 | zecke | koen: something to make gcc error if someone puts in a include not from a subdir of this dir? |
| 12:30.50 | hrw|work | XorA: updated dir with collie mplayer |
| 12:30.52 | koen | zecke: something like that |
| 12:31.16 | XorA | hrw|work: cool, I shall try and test when I get home, approx 18:30 GMT |
| 12:31.30 | hrw|work | XorA: thx |
| 12:31.30 | koen | zecke: in theory we only need -Istaging_inc -Icross_inc -Iworkdir |
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| 12:32.37 | hrw|work | NOTE: Removing failed build target virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc-2.95 |
| 12:32.39 | hrw|work | ;D |
| 12:32.50 | koen | heh |
| 12:33.01 | hrw|work | MACHINE = "a780" |
| 12:33.03 | hrw|work | now |
| 12:33.03 | woglinde | hihi |
| 12:34.53 | Mavez-San | sup |
| 12:36.49 | XorA | make bin-config move blah-config to ${HOST_SYS}blah-config and write "${STAGING_BINDIR}/${HOST_SYS}blah-config" to ${STAGING_BINDIR}/blah-config |
| 12:38.39 | hrw|work | HOST_SYS/bin/TARGET-blah-config? |
| 12:39.04 | hrw|work | food.. |
| 12:39.12 | XorA | hrw|work: we used to have a patch like that, but was removed |
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| 12:44.30 | slapin | hi, all! |
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| 13:12.40 | disaster | hi all |
| 13:13.04 | disaster | i have runed this command line bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image |
| 13:13.21 | disaster | and now the system is makingsuccefull |
| 13:13.40 | disaster | what i must doing now please ? |
| 13:13.57 | greentux | zecke: hrw|work told me that, if i can organise some hardware, you need a autobuild server? |
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| 13:14.12 | disaster | i thinks that i add the package ? |
| 13:14.27 | Crofton|home | disaster, bitbake completed? |
| 13:14.38 | disaster | yes |
| 13:14.50 | Crofton|home | look in tmp/deploy |
| 13:14.57 | Crofton|home | there are images and ipks |
| 13:15.28 | disaster | just glibx folder |
| 13:16.16 | Crofton|home | you found the OW tmp dir? |
| 13:16.45 | XorA | koen: any ideas whats breaking thumb? |
| 13:17.16 | disaster | what is OW ? |
| 13:17.23 | Crofton|home | er OE |
| 13:18.08 | Crofton|home | Did you set TMPDIR in local.conf |
| 13:19.27 | disaster | MOURF this line was commant |
| 13:19.30 | disaster | # TMPDIR = /usr/local/projects/oetmp |
| 13:19.49 | disaster | it's problem ? |
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| 13:21.16 | koen | XorA: no idea, but I did "enable thumb ; bitbake gcc-cross ; disable thumb ;bitbake glic ; enable thumb" |
| 13:21.16 | disaster | in /home/stuff/bitbake/glibc/ |
| 13:21.23 | disaster | i have the image and ipg folder |
| 13:21.32 | koen | XorA: it's generating locales now |
| 13:21.33 | disaster | it's good no ? |
| 13:21.36 | Crofton|home | ok so ity is comemtned out |
| 13:21.58 | Crofton|home | then there will be a directory called tmp under the directo0ry you ran bitbake in |
| 13:22.05 | Crofton|home | find it, and look in it |
| 13:22.21 | Crofton|home | it should have work, cross staging, deploy |
| 13:22.22 | disaster | i have the image and ipg folder |
| 13:22.25 | Crofton|home | and maybe some others |
| 13:22.51 | disaster | in the image folder i have the image...tar |
| 13:23.07 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 13:23.12 | disaster | and in the ipg folder i ave lot of package.ipk |
| 13:23.32 | Crofton|home | that would be a tar file of a filesystem to load on the target hardware |
| 13:23.58 | koen | XorA: libstdc++6_4.1.1-r9_armv5te.ipk 212KB (thumb) 232KB (regular) |
| 13:24.02 | disaster | in the image folder ? |
| 13:24.23 | Crofton|home | the tar ball in the image folder is a complete filesystem |
| 13:24.30 | XorA | koen: cool |
| 13:24.32 | Crofton|home | untar it somewhere and see what is in it |
| 13:24.41 | disaster | kk i must unzip it ? |
| 13:24.51 | Crofton|home | yes |
| 13:25.02 | disaster | kk |
| 13:25.06 | Crofton|home | do you plan to have a hard drive or flash in the final system? |
| 13:26.10 | koen | XorA: could you file a bug about your glibc error? |
| 13:26.34 | XorA | koen: oe.org of some random arm glibc bugzilla? |
| 13:26.56 | koen | XorA: OE bugzilla |
| 13:27.17 | disaster | to unzip .gz what is the command line ? it not tar |
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| 13:29.10 | koen | NOTE: generating locale gl_ES (UTF-8) |
| 13:29.14 | koen | gleek? |
| 13:29.23 | Crofton|home | tar xzvf filename |
| 13:29.29 | hrw|work | koen: glutch |
| 13:29.37 | koen | glolish |
| 13:29.42 | disaster | gunzip |
| 13:30.01 | disaster | i have now an files witch have .ext2 like extention |
| 13:30.19 | Crofton|home | ah that would be in image |
| 13:30.28 | Crofton|home | of a filesystem in ext2 format |
| 13:30.34 | disaster | yes |
| 13:30.41 | Crofton|home | do you have a tar.gz in the images directory? |
| 13:31.01 | disaster | how i load this image in my target mother board |
| 13:31.07 | disaster | no just .gz |
| 13:31.14 | Crofton|home | disaster, I don't know that |
| 13:31.26 | zecke | greentux: we can make use of any hardware with plenty of disk space |
| 13:31.31 | disaster | bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image |
| 13:31.43 | disaster | maybe this command witch make an image |
| 13:31.48 | disaster | and not tar.gz |
| 13:31.52 | disaster | ?? |
| 13:31.55 | Crofton|home | In my work, I flash a jffs2 file system into onboard flash |
| 13:32.19 | Crofton|home | disaster, local.conf can select what image formats are produced |
| 13:32.23 | disaster | yes me too |
| 13:32.25 | Crofton|home | What format do you need? |
| 13:33.12 | disaster | it's like default |
| 13:33.43 | greentux | zecke: ok, will see. only 2 mbit sdsl access |
| 13:33.44 | disaster | i just modify the MACHINE="epia" DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" |
| 13:33.59 | Crofton|home | IMAGE_FSTYPES = "jffs2 tar" |
| 13:34.15 | Crofton|home | What is your IMAGE_FSTYPES |
| 13:34.33 | disaster | IMAGE_FSTYPES = "jffs2 tar" |
| 13:35.15 | Crofton|home | you should have a file with the extension jffs2 somwhere |
| 13:35.19 | disaster | like you |
| 13:35.42 | Crofton|home | can you pastebin 'ls tmp/deploy/images' |
| 13:36.01 | disaster | yes |
| 13:37.26 | zecke | greentux: it will only use it to download sources (once) |
| 13:37.54 | zecke | greentux: and to upload logs |
| 13:39.30 | greentux | zecke: what should I look for? amd 64 with 2 GB ram and 2x 250 sata? |
| 13:39.54 | zecke | would sound nice |
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| 13:42.47 | hrw|work | angstrom for all OE machines + oz354x for all oz machines in progress |
| 13:45.17 | Laibsch | How can I make the following work? pkg-native_1.2.3.bb requires pkg-native.inc which itself requires fontconfig_${PV}.bb which I thought would resolve to pkg_1.2.3.bb. But what is really happening is that bitbake will look for pkg_1.0.bb which is not there. |
| 13:47.56 | hrw|work | pkg-native need fontconfig? |
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| 13:48.29 | hrw|work | zecke: bitbake/trunk + tinderclient == run each task separatelly with tinderclient for one task? |
| 13:48.59 | hrw|work | http://pastebin.ca/287433 |
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| 13:50.07 | disaster_ | http://pastebin.ca/287429 |
| 13:50.16 | disaster_ | it's my ls |
| 13:51.11 | XorA | !oebug 1708 |
| 13:51.13 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 1708, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-12-21 05:52 |
| 13:51.14 | cdbot2 | * * dp(AT)xora.org.uk: Enabling thumb via -mthumb breaks glibc build |
| 13:51.15 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1708 |
| 13:51.41 | Crofton|home | I wonder if the machine file overrrides IMAGE_FSTYPES? |
| 13:52.20 | Crofton|home | bugger |
| 13:52.25 | disaster_ | i don't now |
| 13:52.30 | niv_one_three | so like , I am at work , and now I understand that mq200 is a display adaptor |
| 13:52.53 | Crofton|home | epia.conf sets IMAGEFSTYPES to ext2 .... |
| 13:52.55 | niv_one_three | so 2.6 would work, but I will get no dispaly |
| 13:53.40 | Crofton|home | disaster, you need a jffs2 image? |
| 13:54.45 | disaster_ | okey |
| 13:55.29 | disaster_ | we will use a compact flash |
| 13:55.29 | Crofton|home | Anyone know why epia.conf set IMAGEFSTYPES? |
| 13:55.33 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 13:56.08 | Crofton|home | disaster, edit conf/epia.conf and remove the IMAGE_FSTYPES line |
| 13:56.18 | disaster_ | okey |
| 13:56.27 | Crofton|home | then bitbake -c clean task-base |
| 13:56.28 | disaster_ | remove |
| 13:56.38 | Crofton|home | and then bitbake angstrom.... again |
| 13:56.40 | disaster_ | not just write jffs2 |
| 13:56.48 | disaster_ | okey |
| 13:56.51 | disaster_ | we go remove |
| 13:57.05 | Crofton|home | uncomment the IMAGE_FSTYPES setting in local.conf? |
| 13:57.09 | Crofton|home | er no ? |
| 13:58.02 | koen | XorA: google suggests it's a bintutils bug |
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| 14:04.13 | disaster_ | bitbake -c ... in construction |
| 14:04.25 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to generalize. I am indeed working on fontconfig. I used "pkg" just as a placeholder. I would like to create a fontconfig.inc and a fontconfig-native.inc. fontconfig-native.bb will require fontconfig-native.in which itself shall require fontconfig_${PV}.bb. This does not seem to work as expected. fontconfig-native_1.2.3.bb (example) will ultimately depend on fontconfig_1.0.bb and not fontconfig-nativ |
| 14:04.46 | Laibsch | I hope this is more clear now. |
| 14:07.27 | niv_one_three | woglinde: my local.conf reads, machine is simpad, distro is generic. yet I get Please set TARGET_ARCH directly, or choose a MACHINE orDISTRO that does |
| 14:09.28 | XorA | koen: 2.17.50.0.5 here |
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| 14:13.37 | disaster | bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image started |
| 14:17.18 | disaster_ | NOTE: build 200612211731: completedBuild statistics: Attempted builds: 5debian:/home/stuff/bitbake# |
| 14:17.27 | disaster_ | it's good ? |
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| 14:18.06 | Crofton|home | see what is in tmp/deploy |
| 14:18.31 | disaster_ | Angstrom-bootstrap-image-test-20061221-epia.rootfs.jffs2Angstrom-bootstrap-image-test-20061221-epia.rootfs.tar.bz2debian:/home/stuff/bitbake/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/ |
| 14:18.46 | disaster_ | it's good |
| 14:19.14 | disaster_ | what i doing now ? |
| 14:19.36 | disaster_ | unzip tar.gz ? |
| 14:19.37 | hrw|work | disaster_: you do builds *AS root*?? |
| 14:19.53 | disaster_ | ?? |
| 14:20.15 | hrw|work | Laibsch: fontconfig-native_X.bb = require fontconfig.inc |
| 14:20.36 | hrw|work | Laibsch: fontconfig_X.bb = require fontcofnig.inc DEPENDS = "fontconfig-native" |
| 14:20.47 | hrw|work | disaster_: "debian:/home/stuff/bitbake#" |
| 14:21.09 | hrw|work | Laibsch: iin other words - do not depend on native stuff in .inc |
| 14:22.17 | disaster_ | i have untar Angstrom-bootstrap-image-test-20061221-epia.rootfs.tar.bz |
| 14:22.38 | disaster_ | in /home/stuff/bitbake/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/epia# |
| 14:23.02 | disaster_ | what i must ding now ? |
| 14:23.26 | disaster_ | add a packages or installed image in the target machine ? |
| 14:23.43 | Laibsch | hrw|work: I am not depending on native stuff in .inc |
| 14:23.58 | Laibsch | hrw|work: My proposed solution is at http://oz.leggewie.org/wip/fontconfig/ |
| 14:24.03 | Laibsch | It does not work. |
| 14:24.06 | hrw|work | ah sorry |
| 14:24.35 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Maybe you can take a look at the .inc files and two bb files |
| 14:24.43 | Laibsch | I think you will get the idea. |
| 14:24.55 | Laibsch | Sorry for my bad explanations. |
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| 14:25.47 | disaster_ | disaster_: you do builds *AS root*?? |
| 14:25.51 | disaster_ | yes |
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| 14:26.29 | koen | disaster: don't do that |
| 14:26.36 | disaster_ | kk |
| 14:26.50 | hrw|work | Laibsch: fontconfig_do_unpack -> do_unpack_append please test |
| 14:26.54 | disaster_ | but my image is not corompt ? |
| 14:28.25 | hrw|work | Laibsch: make normal and native include own files in a way that native will have own parts and normal own ones but common base |
| 14:29.16 | disaster_ | how i use this image Angstrom-bootstrap-image-test-20061221-epia.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 14:29.41 | hrw|work | disaster_: for epia use tar.gz |
| 14:30.55 | disaster_ | kk |
| 14:31.17 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Three include files? -common.inc .inc and -native.inc? |
| 14:31.21 | disaster_ | i just copy the folder untar in the compact flash ? |
| 14:31.52 | hrw|work | Laibsch: yes |
| 14:31.55 | disaster | disaster: t la |
| 14:31.59 | Laibsch | hrw|work: OK |
| 14:32.08 | Laibsch | I will postpone that a bit, though. |
| 14:32.12 | disaster | disaster_: t la |
| 14:33.04 | disaster_ | ??? |
| 14:34.22 | koen | XorA: http://rafb.net/paste/results/OloiLQ18.html |
| 14:35.20 | hrw|work | I will cut tinderclient |
| 14:35.42 | XorA | koen: a few K here and there then |
| 14:36.02 | koen | XorA: glibc, libgcrypt, alsa-libs have to be built without thumb |
| 14:36.47 | hrw|work | koen: BUILD_PARALLEL_MAKE = "", BUILD_MODE_THUMB = ""? |
| 14:38.58 | koen | hrw|work: I'm thinking about something like ARM_INSTRUCTION_SET in conf/machine/include/ixp4xx.conf |
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| 14:41.47 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Sorry, either I misunderstand you or your approach will not work. fontconfig-native_1.2.3.bb will need all of fontconfig_1.2.3.bb. fontconfig_1.2.3.bb will share same stuff with fontconfig_1.2.4.bb via fontconfig.inc. How do I get the specifics from fontconfig_1.2.3.bb into fontconfig-native_1.2.3.bb if not via "require fontconfig-native_1.2.3.bb". I could make fontconfig_1.2.3.inc and require that in both the native and non-native version. |
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| 14:42.07 | Laibsch | s/share same stuff/share some stuff/ |
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| 14:42.37 | hrw|work | Laibsch: ok, I was wrong - I would have to read original ones but lack time for it |
| 14:42.47 | Laibsch | Alright. |
| 14:42.58 | hrw|work | --06:41:49-- http://downloads.sourceforge.net/e2fsprogs-native/e2fsprogs-native-1.38.tar.gz?download&failedmirror=osdn.dl.sourceforge.net |
| 14:43.06 | hrw|work | e2fsprogs-native-1.38.tar.gz |
| 14:43.12 | hrw|work | Laibsch: ? |
| 14:43.17 | Laibsch | But cascaded requires do not work? |
| 14:44.57 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ree00daa0... 10/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:44.57 | CIA-4 | binutils: update to 2.17.50.0.8 |
| 14:44.57 | CIA-4 | binutils-cross: ditto |
| 14:45.03 | hrw|work | Laibsch: can you fix e2fsprogs? |
| 14:45.09 | Laibsch | hrw|work: no e2fsprogs-native package on sf.net |
| 14:45.29 | Laibsch | hrw|work: yes, I will. I believe this was the same in the original version. |
| 14:45.40 | Laibsch | hrw|work: no e2fsprogs-native project on sf.net |
| 14:45.42 | hrw|work | Laibsch: or $PN in SRC_URI rather |
| 14:45.47 | disaster | now i must put the jffs2 files sytem in my compact flash |
| 14:46.03 | hrw|work | disaster_: unpack tarball, do not use jffs2 |
| 14:46.15 | zecke | compact flash and jffs2? are you sure? |
| 14:46.21 | disaster | but i must export the image in my compact flash before add the package like x11, vlc ... ? |
| 14:46.44 | Crofton|home | disaster, first just figure out how to boot a simple image |
| 14:46.52 | Crofton|home | it sounds like you have a lot of reading to do |
| 14:46.55 | disaster | i read that not put ext2 or ext 3 in compact flash |
| 14:47.21 | disaster | kk |
| 14:47.23 | zecke | i would agree with not putting ext3 on cf |
| 14:47.26 | XorA | disaster: you sound like you are starting a project without knowing your target |
| 14:47.29 | Crofton|home | just get something to boot |
| 14:47.52 | Crofton|home | understand that process, before moving on to next steps |
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| 14:49.59 | disaster | re |
| 14:50.27 | disaster | sorry break current |
| 14:50.52 | disaster | i must use the ext3 files system for my compact flash ? |
| 14:51.04 | zecke | 15:47 < zecke> i would agree with not putting ext3 on cf |
| 14:51.05 | hrw|work | disaster_: do it with small steps: 1. boot bootstrap-image (cf with ext2) |
| 14:51.16 | disaster | ha kk |
| 14:51.22 | hrw|work | disaster_: then 2. install extra stuff |
| 14:51.43 | disaster | how i do this |
| 14:51.45 | hrw|work | disaster_: when you will finish step 1 you will have does base system work |
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| 14:51.53 | hrw|work | disaster_: first do 1st step |
| 14:52.01 | koen | XorA: another present for you |
| 14:52.02 | disaster | kk |
| 14:52.19 | disaster | i put ext2 files system in my compact flash |
| 14:53.18 | disaster | but how i pu image in compact flash |
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| 14:54.30 | Crofton|home | disaster, find a compact falsh to usb adapter? |
| 14:54.52 | disaster | we have |
| 14:55.48 | disaster | but it's tome to go |
| 14:55.58 | disaster | we come back tmorow |
| 14:56.33 | Crofton|home | disaster, good luck tomorrow |
| 14:57.21 | Laibsch | hrw|work: NOTE: package e2fsprogs-native-1.38-r6: task do_fetch: completed. |
| 14:57.21 | Laibsch | will push |
| 14:57.21 | hrw|work | thx |
| 14:58.28 | disaster | we will see you tomorrow ? |
| 14:58.30 | disaster | we hope |
| 14:58.44 | disaster | okey |
| 14:58.49 | disaster | we must go |
| 14:58.52 | disaster | BB all |
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| 15:02.39 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re7503adc... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tune-thumb.conf): tune-thumb: fix typos |
| 15:03.06 | Laibsch | hrw|work: fetch completes, but actually nothing is fetched. I need to look into it. |
| 15:04.08 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Cleaning the package cleared things and fetching does indeed work (verified) |
| 15:06.20 | hrw|work | ok |
| 15:08.13 | hrw|work | bitbake + tee == totally suxx combo |
| 15:09.30 | Crofton|home | looking good for FOSDEM |
| 15:09.51 | Crofton|home | looks like astrid is 82 euro thursday night through Sunday |
| 15:09.59 | koen | Crofton_: yay! |
| 15:10.10 | hrw|work | Crofton|home: cool |
| 15:10.14 | Crofton|home | Monday night rate jumps to 119 |
| 15:10.53 | Crofton|home | one day jet lag recovery, one day touron, 2 days conference |
| 15:10.55 | koen | Crofton|home: monday is the start of the new season |
| 15:11.11 | Crofton|home | ah |
| 15:11.20 | koen | "spring" |
| 15:11.27 | Crofton|home | plane leaves at 10:30 on Moday |
| 15:11.30 | Crofton|home | right |
| 15:11.36 | Crofton|home | not even winter here |
| 15:11.39 | Crofton|home | hardly |
| 15:11.53 | Crofton|home | but I have been geting emailed pics from Colorado all mornign from a friend |
| 15:12.30 | Crofton|home | travelocity may save me money on hotel, although with the spring info, maybe not :) |
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| 15:14.22 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r3c929653... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): fuse: unify, clean up |
| 15:14.34 | koen | oooh http://primates.ximian.com/~federico/news-2006-12.html#20 |
| 15:14.34 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rf380086d... 10/ (1 packages/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs.inc): e2fsprogs: Replace ${PN} in .inc to make sure fetch does not break for native package. Thanks hrw. |
| 15:14.44 | hrw|work | thx Laibsch |
| 15:14.47 | koen | time to meet federico again |
| 15:16.11 | Ifaistos | hi |
| 15:16.27 | hrw|work | http://fosdem.org/2007/schedule/speakers/joe+hewitt - cool. |
| 15:17.46 | koen | Crofton_: all these people come to Belgium for the beer: http://fosdem.org/2007/schedule/speakers |
| 15:17.48 | Ifaistos | koen : are you running the mailserver for OE ? Can you check if it can resolve the digital-opsis.com domain correctly ? I think there might be a problem in the MX records |
| 15:18.37 | koen | Ifaistos: http://rafb.net/paste/results/YsEnW026.html |
| 15:19.27 | koen | Ifaistos: and http://rafb.net/paste/results/KWCPbw69.html |
| 15:20.14 | hrw|work | Cpu(s): 31.9% us, 7.9% sy, 0.0% ni, 0.0% id, 59.9% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si |
| 15:20.28 | hrw|work | nearly no work but two bitbake runs.. |
| 15:21.01 | koen | 59.9% wa |
| 15:21.04 | koen | slow IO |
| 15:21.11 | hrw|work | looks like |
| 15:21.25 | Ifaistos | koen : I have registred and with a second email from the same server but still no email from the list |
| 15:21.33 | hrw|work | Out of Memory: Killed process 16694 (python). |
| 15:21.46 | hrw|work | no swap... argh |
| 15:21.59 | hrw|work | time to prepare swapfile |
| 15:22.00 | Ifaistos | koen : I'll try to register with one from the isp and see if i can get anything |
| 15:22.19 | XorA | koen: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/UO98dU13.html |
| 15:22.47 | koen | hmmm |
| 15:22.50 | koen | that old problem |
| 15:24.43 | hrw|work | uf. added 2G swapfile |
| 15:25.05 | hrw|work | maybe will help |
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| 15:29.16 | koen | XorA: I get a ~5% size decrease for bootstrap-image |
| 15:29.36 | XorA | koen: sweet |
| 15:33.03 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rec6dbe9f... 10/ (1 packages/expat/expat.inc packages/expat/expat_2.0.0.bb): |
| 15:33.03 | CIA-4 | expat: repair some SRC_URI breakage |
| 15:33.04 | CIA-4 | expat-native: ditto |
| 15:41.54 | Ifaistos | koen : registered from another email address and it worked.... |
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| 16:02.23 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * reca1c813... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/angstrom-version.bb): angstrom-version: make machine specific |
| 16:02.31 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc4353eb4... 10/ (1 packages/pango/pango.inc): pango.inc: small tweak to make building from scratch work |
| 16:02.45 | hrw|work | koen: what machine specific is in angstrom-version? |
| 16:03.39 | koen | hrw|work: people should not get an updated angstrom-version if it wasn't built for that machine |
| 16:03.59 | hrw|work | koen: ah.. that way |
| 16:04.59 | hrw|work | hmm.. qemu just failed on x86.. |
| 16:06.37 | Ifaistos | mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting |
| 16:06.51 | Ifaistos | any problem with the repository ? |
| 16:07.09 | hrw|work | too much users? |
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| 16:25.13 | shula | you guys have a definitive answer: zaurus has or doesn't have a REAL hardware clock? |
| 16:25.47 | koen | XorA: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/thumb/comparison.txt |
| 16:26.08 | koen | shula: your question is too vague to have a definitive answer |
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| 16:27.25 | shula | what do you mean? when i power off, and start after few days, will it know what date&time is it? |
| 16:27.49 | koen | that are 2 different questions |
| 16:28.02 | koen | first: which model zaurus? |
| 16:28.25 | shula | c860... doenst matter, really. i'll buy a one that has this capability. |
| 16:28.35 | shula | curretnly i own a 860 |
| 16:28.50 | XorA | koen: nice figures |
| 16:29.28 | koen | XorA: I wonder if I should add tune-thumb.inc to all armv5t+ machines |
| 16:29.39 | XorA | koen: only when glibc is fixed |
| 16:30.05 | koen | XorA: revision 57ee8349365e6e2803c553b9aa0f489d035360e0 :) |
| 16:31.27 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r57ee8349... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc_2.5.bb): glibc 2.5: for some reason (#1708) glibc doesn't like thumb, so set ARM_INSTRUCTION_SET = "arm" |
| 16:33.00 | XorA | koen: thats cheating :-) |
| 16:33.07 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6a375c46... 10/ (1 packages/libgcrypt/libgcrypt_1.2.3.bb): libgcrypt: disable thumb for thumb capable CPUs |
| 16:34.22 | XorA | hey mickeyl |
| 16:35.22 | hrw|work | o.. mickeyl |
| 16:35.24 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 16:35.40 | hrw|work | shula: collie is closest to having one probably |
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| 16:37.02 | mickeyl | hi guys |
| 16:37.46 | hrw|work | ~lart Print support in kde |
| 16:38.01 | koen | hrw|work: s/kde/linux/ |
| 16:38.14 | XorA | s/linux/computers/ |
| 16:38.26 | hrw|work | question: how much time does kword/kpdf/kghostview need to print 8 pages from pdf? |
| 16:38.30 | hrw|work | answer: eons |
| 16:38.36 | koen | mickeyl: did your project succeed yesterday? |
| 16:39.00 | shula | hrw: thankx |
| 16:39.20 | mickeyl | koen: no :/ we got two production LCMs for attach to the developer board sent and and one works (in berlin) and one is broken (in frankfurt) .... |
| 16:39.45 | mickeyl | i'm taking the working on with me next week |
| 16:39.48 | mickeyl | s/on/one/ |
| 16:40.09 | koen | mickeyl: I actually meant the applet, but that is also usefull info ;) |
| 16:40.57 | mickeyl | oh right, the applet. i was doing sports the whole evening, i'll work on the applet tomorrow, but a short look at mb-applet-light tells me everything will be good :) |
| 16:43.07 | XorA | koen: should try turing on iwmmxt on pxa27x's |
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| 16:50.41 | koen | XorA: turing? |
| 16:51.18 | XorA | turning on |
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| 16:51.30 | XorA | anyway time for trains |
| 16:51.59 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * rea96eefc... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc.inc): This fix allows uclibc-initial-0.9.28 to compile and closes bug #1632 |
| 16:52.07 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r2cb4d98d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 16:52.07 | CIA-4 | Set corect path to kernel headers for uclibc_svn |
| 16:52.07 | CIA-4 | Add patch to allow gettext to compile |
| 16:52.21 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * r59d04a36... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): dht-walnut uclibc_svn config file |
| 16:52.21 | CIA-4 | 03ifaistos 07org.oe.dev * ra083f4b0... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Efika uclibc_svn config file |
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| 16:53.31 | Ifaistos | koen : with these patches i can build task-base using linux-uclibc as distro |
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| 16:53.48 | Ifaistos | koen : for efika and dht-walnut |
| 16:53.54 | koen | s/distro/target_os/ |
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| 16:55.02 | Ifaistos | koen : generic-uclibc |
| 16:55.21 | koen | tried angstrom yet with uclibc? |
| 16:55.39 | HopsNBarley | what's the PPC savings with uclibc? About a meg? |
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| 16:55.49 | Ifaistos | not yet |
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| 16:57.02 | Ifaistos | HopsNBarley : No it think its more, but don't have the numbers now |
| 16:57.24 | Ifaistos | HopsNBarley : and with uclibc it depends on what you want to have installed.... |
| 16:57.41 | HopsNBarley | thanks. |
| 16:58.02 | koen | mickeyl: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/thumb/comparison.txt - thumb vs regular packages |
| 16:58.04 | Ifaistos | HopsNBarley : the OE configs of uclibc includes almost everything uclibc can offer |
| 16:58.22 | mickeyl | koen: which is which? |
| 16:58.38 | mickeyl | smaller one is thumb |
| 16:58.39 | mickeyl | ? |
| 16:58.42 | koen | yes |
| 16:58.51 | koen | pn: thumb regular (kb) |
| 16:58.57 | mickeyl | not bad |
| 16:59.00 | mickeyl | 20k for libstdc++ |
| 16:59.10 | mickeyl | 50k saving for libxml2 |
| 16:59.13 | mickeyl | cool |
| 16:59.41 | mickeyl | and this is confirmed to work for armv4? |
| 16:59.45 | koen | ~100kB smaller tar.bz2 for angstrom-bootstrap-image |
| 17:00.15 | koen | mickeyl: haven't tried for armv4t yet |
| 17:00.40 | mickeyl | k |
| 17:00.45 | koen | samba_3.0.14a-r15_armv5te.ipk: 6920 7488 (kB) |
| 17:00.50 | koen | half a meg |
| 17:01.09 | mickeyl | good for all our <= 16MB flash systems |
| 17:01.31 | koen | ~lart collie for having no thumb |
| 17:03.00 | HopsNBarley | Ifaistos, you've added a PPC config then for uclibc? |
| 17:03.31 | Ifaistos | HopsNBarley : yes for 2 machines efika and dht-walnut |
| 17:04.27 | HopsNBarley | Ifaistos, great! I may give that a whirl in the next week or so. |
| 17:04.34 | Ifaistos | HopsNBarley : If you use gcc 4.x you need uclibc_svn or it will not work |
| 17:04.45 | HopsNBarley | i do. thanks for the tip. |
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| 17:09.10 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 17:09.17 | mickeyl | that doesn't look good for snow on 24th |
| 17:09.29 | koen | mickeyl: I'd like to include tune-thumb.inc in all armv5 and armv6 machines, should it be enabled by default or disabled? |
| 17:10.00 | mickeyl | koen: I'd say enabled, if mixing thumb packages with non-thumb works |
| 17:10.05 | mickeyl | I'd say disable, if otherwise |
| 17:11.08 | koen | mickeyl: it works fine, but I remember the outrage of some people when enable tune-xscale |
| 17:11.37 | mickeyl | koen: in that case, let's vote via mailing list |
| 17:11.46 | Ifaistos | One thing i noticed for uclibc since the machine =x86 now defaults to 486 instead 386 it will fail, as there are no configs for 486. Just for 386 and 586 |
| 17:12.48 | mickeyl | we should add one then |
| 17:12.52 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 17:12.57 | mickeyl | 386 is too old |
| 17:13.02 | mickeyl | so i had to bump that to get NTPL working |
| 17:13.38 | psokolovsky_ | koen, h3900's 2.6 port is reached "usable" state. As usual, just replace 2.4 with 2.6 machine config? |
| 17:13.41 | hrw|work | Ifaistos: gcc and/or glibc does not support 386 from some time |
| 17:14.03 | koen | psokolovsky_: yeah |
| 17:14.08 | Ifaistos | mickeyl : i think just copying the uClibc configs in a 486 dir will be sufficient as "transision" |
| 17:14.13 | koen | psokolovsky_: I don't have a h3900, so it's all fine by me :) |
| 17:14.20 | psokolovsky_ | ok ;-) |
| 17:14.29 | mickeyl | Ifaistos: ACK |
| 17:16.01 | goxboxlive | To have a request, should i add a bug for that? Or how is that handeld? |
| 17:16.39 | Ifaistos | goxboxlive : request are more expensive near Christmas time :) |
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| 17:16.54 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 17:17.56 | jayakumar2 | hi. i'd like to make an image that doesn't include ipk within it. should i be looking at o.oe.dev/packages/images and finding the ones without inherit image_ipk? |
| 17:21.01 | mickeyl | goxboxlive: bugzilla knows about the severity "feature wish" |
| 17:22.22 | hrw|work | happy Xmas everybody |
| 17:25.53 | jayakumar2 | merry xmas |
| 17:26.30 | Ifaistos | koen : did you say you had a problem with efika/angstrom and usb ? |
| 17:27.36 | koen | Ifaistos: libusb doesn't compile overhere, so I remove 'usbhost' from MACHINE_FEATURES |
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| 17:30.33 | Ifaistos | koen : ok. i'll look into this |
| 17:31.26 | Ifaistos | koen : i had a problem with usbutils in the owmnr distro |
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| 17:32.31 | Ifaistos | cu tommorow all. going to the pub now :) |
| 17:35.21 | mickeyl | have fun |
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| 18:39.59 | XorA|gone | hrw|gone|xmas: good to go on that new mplayer for collie |
| 18:43.06 | koen | XorA|gone: samba gets 500kB smaller with thumb |
| 18:43.16 | koen | XorA|gone: the rest is still a bit unimpressive |
| 18:43.24 | XorA|gone | koen: cool |
| 18:43.50 | XorA|gone | koen: it might be worth as a policy making utils/services thumbed, but stuff user sees, not thumbed |
| 18:44.42 | koen | XorA|gone: something like that |
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| 19:46.23 | gremlin[it] | ping ~koen |
| 19:48.39 | univac | hi gremlin[it] :) |
| 19:48.51 | gremlin[it] | hi univac ! |
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| 19:54.13 | summatusmentis | is there anyone here who would be able to, or willing to help w/ the writing of an SD driver for collie, given the information at http://josejx.net/collie/ |
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| 19:58.40 | summatusmentis | could the current SD driver for the 2.6 kernels be modified, given the information at http://josejx.net/collie/? |
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| 19:59.14 | koen | summatusmentis: you mean 'created' instead of 'modified', right? |
| 19:59.48 | summatusmentis | there's no SD driver at all in 2.6? I meant modify the one being used for the Cxx00 series |
| 20:00.20 | koen | there's no SD driver for the locomochip which collie uses |
| 20:01.19 | summatusmentis | if the specifications given in the link are accurate, could the driver for the other chip be modified? or would it need to be written from scratch? |
| 20:01.41 | koen | from scratch (within the mmc framework present in the kernel) |
| 20:01.52 | summatusmentis | I see, ok |
| 20:02.02 | koen | Dirk Opfer made a start, but he has very little time these days |
| 20:02.23 | summatusmentis | I'd like to try, or get a group of people together and try |
| 20:02.42 | summatusmentis | I'm not experienced enough to do it by myself |
| 20:03.12 | koen | If you start, you can find most zaurus kernel devs here (RP and do13) |
| 20:03.57 | summatusmentis | they probably don't want to just do it? :-P this would be my first kernel project |
| 20:04.02 | koen | keep in mind that the holidays are starting so people might be away from internet till after new year |
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| 20:04.25 | summatusmentis | I didn't think about that |
| 20:05.05 | koen | josejx was here last week showing us the info |
| 20:05.54 | summatusmentis | what was the reaction? |
| 20:06.13 | koen | RP wanted to work on it, but he has little free time as well |
| 20:06.34 | summatusmentis | ok, well, that's good at least |
| 20:06.58 | summatusmentis | I was sort of under the impression that noone was interested, which is what prompted my thinking |
| 20:07.25 | summatusmentis | someone in #openzaurus is willing to contribute to devs who get an complete driver working |
| 20:10.26 | summatusmentis | thanks koen I need to go |
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| 20:11.02 | gremlin[it] | koen, about amonth ago I start to go to the local (Padua) Linux user group ... and 4 guys bouth ipaq after they seen mine :) ... but now they would like i'll do a intro talk about OE/Bitbake ... u have something maybe used on some conventions that i can traslate or use as starting point ? |
| 20:11.25 | koen | I think we have a wiki page listing all presentations |
| 20:11.51 | koen | gremlin[it]: have a look at http://www.openembedded.org/papersandpresentations |
| 20:12.15 | gremlin[it] | perfect Koen ;) |
| 20:12.54 | koen | ~seen sirfred |
| 20:13.18 | ibot | sirfred <n=mteira@237.Red-88-7-186.staticIP.rima-tde.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 1h 58m 9s ago, saying: 'ljp: Last time i took a look at qtopia-core sources, I missed some examples that used to be for gfxdrivers, one for mach64, other for voodoo, IIRC, ... Is there any hardware acceleration support in the qtopia-core opensource version?'. |
| 20:19.47 | koen | ~seen lennert |
| 20:20.25 | ibot | lennert <n=buytenh@nslu2-linux/lennert> was last seen on IRC in channel #openjtag, 43d 9h 47m 35s ago, saying: 'probably LE as that's what other folks use'. |
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| 20:42.24 | XorA|gone | summatusmentis: go for it man, we can try and chip in |
| 20:43.48 | XorA|gone | koen: why cant familiar.conf be added to removal.txt for end of january |
| 20:44.00 | XorA|gone | koen: that gives a month for a new maintainer to stop up |
| 20:44.12 | koen | XorA|gone: I'll leave that to other |
| 20:44.23 | koen | XorA|gone: I'm not touching anything familiar related anymore |
| 20:49.23 | tmbinc_ | is there an alternative to cdrtools, if i want mkisofs? i certainly don't want cdrtools, if i can avoid it. |
| 20:50.14 | koen | tmbinc_: didn't debian fork it a while ago? |
| 20:50.41 | tmbinc_ | cdrkit, ah yeah |
| 20:50.46 | tmbinc_ | i will try it, thanks |
| 20:51.37 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r0a670ad1... 10/ (1 removal.txt): removal.txt : added familiar-unstable.conf |
| 20:51.54 | koen | what's the retail price for the cheaper DVB-C capable dreambox? |
| 20:52.52 | tmbinc_ | which one? we have the (small) DM500-C, which retails for *looking at ebay* 180 euro |
| 20:53.08 | koen | yes, that one :) |
| 20:53.43 | tmbinc_ | and the DM7025 , which isn't cheap, for something like 500 EUR (ouch :) |
| 20:53.51 | tmbinc_ | but there are developer discounts ;) |
| 20:54.07 | tmbinc_ | the DM500-C however doesn't use OE, and has only 8MB (NOR) flash |
| 20:54.18 | koen | oooooow |
| 20:54.34 | tmbinc_ | there will be the DM600PVR which uses OE, but it's (still) not yet there. |
| 20:54.43 | tmbinc_ | for about the same price as the DM500 |
| 20:58.12 | koen | tmbinc_: is there a upnp server available for the dreamboxen? |
| 21:00.13 | tmbinc_ | i think there is was twonkeyvision binary released by them, and of course you can compile something free |
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| 21:01.26 | mccarthy | has anyone build dbus-glib using OE? |
| 21:01.26 | mccarthy | I always get some include errors |
| 21:01.30 | mccarthy | (missing dbus/dubs.h) |
| 21:01.49 | mccarthy | I have tried building all the *-native just in case, but it doesn't help |
| 21:02.06 | koen | tmbinc_: cool, I was looking for something working, which seems to exclude most FOSS upnp servers |
| 21:02.40 | koen | mccarthy: built it today without problems |
| 21:02.45 | mccarthy | hmm |
| 21:03.00 | mccarthy | no clue what I am missing here |
| 21:03.52 | mccarthy | is there a way to force it to use a particular include directory? (like a -I to bitbake?) |
| 21:05.03 | koen | what does 'bitbake -s | grep dbus' say? |
| 21:05.50 | mccarthy | is there one in particular you are looking for (it is on a different machine so no cut and paste) |
| 21:06.13 | mccarthy | I am trying to build dbus-glis |
| 21:06.19 | koen | the versions of dbus and dbus-glib |
| 21:06.25 | mccarthy | it lists that with a version 0.72-r0 next to it |
| 21:06.35 | koen | it seems like dbus doesn't get built |
| 21:06.37 | mccarthy | dbus is 10.2-r1 |
| 21:06.43 | mccarthy | oops 1.0.2-r1 |
| 21:07.23 | mccarthy | should I "bitbake -f -c clean" it? |
| 21:07.31 | mccarthy | (I think that would force a rebuild) |
| 21:08.24 | koen | i've had problems with 0.72 and use 0.71 |
| 21:08.53 | koen | PREFERRED_VERSION_dbus-glib ?= "0.71" |
| 21:15.25 | mccarthy | koen, you do not know how to recover a borked mtdblock/2 do you? |
| 21:15.31 | mccarthy | I cannot mount it for some reason |
| 21:15.53 | koen | is that / or /home? |
| 21:16.14 | mccarthy | oops |
| 21:16.18 | mccarthy | it is /home |
| 21:16.26 | mccarthy | I just want the storage space back |
| 21:16.33 | mccarthy | (I do not need to recover any files from there) |
| 21:16.39 | koen | the easiest way is to dd an empty jffs2 file to it |
| 21:16.53 | mccarthy | how do I make an empty jffs2 file? |
| 21:16.57 | koen | or some other jffs2 file for yoyr model |
| 21:17.43 | koen | s/yoyr/your/ |
| 21:18.14 | koen | like bootstrap-image |
| 21:19.11 | mccarthy | but doesn't it need to be exactly the right size? |
| 21:19.33 | koen | not afaik |
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| 21:24.06 | mccarthy | koen, you rock (on the dbus thing ...) |
| 21:24.32 | mccarthy | yay |
| 21:24.38 | mccarthy | and on the mtdblock thing too ! |
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| 22:03.29 | tmbinc_ | koen: honestly, UPnP and "something working" contradicts itself |
| 22:03.54 | tmbinc_ | unless you talk about "twonkeyvision as server on one device, twonkeyvision as controller on another, twonkeyvision as renderer on third device" |
| 22:04.21 | koen | right |
| 22:04.35 | koen | I personally dislike upnp |
| 22:04.49 | koen | but it seems to gain traction |
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| 22:07.34 | kergoth | personally i preferred dns-sd / rendezvous to upnp for device/service discovery |
| 22:07.50 | kergoth | but oh well, it didnt gain in popularity as much |
| 22:08.17 | koen | right |
| 22:09.20 | koen | I want something that plays well with mythtv |
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| 22:29.56 | B_Lizzard | Hello |
| 22:30.08 | B_Lizzard | I made a working (!) bb file for ayttm |
| 22:30.25 | B_Lizzard | It's a gtk 1.2 multi-protocol IM |
| 22:30.40 | B_Lizzard | For the speed-consious |
| 22:30.41 | koen | attach it to the bugtracker :) |
| 22:30.47 | B_Lizzard | Ok, sure |
| 22:31.15 | B_Lizzard | One note, MSN is bugged lately, so it's disabled |
| 22:31.33 | B_Lizzard | If it works, I'll look into implementing it once again |
| 22:32.51 | B_Lizzard | I'm putting the "ayttm" folder in a tar.gz file |
| 22:34.00 | koen | hmmm |
| 22:34.09 | koen | a 'mtn diff' would be better |
| 22:34.18 | koen | something that doesn't require me to leave my browser |
| 22:35.11 | B_Lizzard | Ok... |
| 22:35.19 | B_Lizzard | It's a .bb file, and a patch |
| 22:35.35 | B_Lizzard | That goes in its folder or whatever |
| 22:36.42 | koen | hey mickeyl |
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| 22:36.59 | mickeyl | heyya |
| 22:37.36 | mickeyl | is Paul S. on IRC? |
| 22:37.48 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r375e23fc... 10/ (1 packages/subversion/subversion_1.4.0.bb): subversion 1.4.0: it builds now |
| 22:37.48 | koen | psokolovsky seems to be present |
| 22:37.54 | mickeyl | psokolovsky: heya. |
| 22:38.04 | psokolovsky | mickeyl, Hi! |
| 22:38.07 | mickeyl | psokolovsky: can you send me an e-mail containing your familiar.conf, please? |
| 22:38.16 | mickeyl | i like to have a look |
| 22:39.04 | koen | the one with the trademark threats? |
| 22:39.13 | psokolovsky | mickeyl, what exactly familiar.conf? from what tree? |
| 22:39.31 | mickeyl | psokolovsky: the one that generates packages which work against familiar Linux. |
| 22:39.39 | mickeyl | s/against/on/ |
| 22:40.08 | koen | mickeyl: we removed obsolete versions of dbus and bluez, it wouldn't work anyway in .dev |
| 22:40.29 | psokolovsky | mickeyl, i.e. that one which we discussed some time ago - a conf for OE.dev, but which generates fam0.8.4-compatible packages? |
| 22:40.38 | mickeyl | yes, that one |
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| 22:44.14 | goxboxlive | koen: What about my bugs. They arent commited yet. Why is that. If it is still something wrong, then tell me what it is. There is no point of having a non working machine file, right? It is bug #1689 and #1692 |
| 22:45.38 | koen | goxboxlive: I'm still not convinced the machine file is as bare-bones as possible |
| 22:47.24 | psokolovsky | mickeyl, sent |
| 22:48.45 | mickeyl | thanks psokolovsky |
| 22:52.37 | goxboxlive | koen:Well, koen, it is so barebone as it could be, otherwise importent modules are missing. |
| 22:53.05 | koen | goxboxlive: you said that before with fuse and smbfs still being in |
| 22:53.54 | goxboxlive | Well, thoose i forgot actually. |
| 22:54.09 | goxboxlive | But nevermind, what about the xtscal patch? |
| 22:54.25 | koen | that's something for florian_kc or pb_ |
| 22:54.55 | goxboxlive | i c |
| 23:00.57 | koen | NOTE: Applying patch 'gnome-bug-341177.patch' |
| 23:00.57 | koen | NOTE: package gtk+-2.10.6-r8: task do_patch: completed |
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| 23:22.30 | adamowitz | Can anyone tell me how to check that USB host mode is activated in OZ? (3.5.4.1) Is it by checking for the presence of a module (this one?: ohci_hcd)? |
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| 23:39.58 | greentux_alt | adamowitz: easily by connecting a client... like usb stick |
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