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| 00:06.31 | koen | 'night all |
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| 08:33.23 | Bernardo | good morning |
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| 08:50.20 | zezom | is it possible to delete the dirs out of build/tmp/work after my apps have compiled? |
| 08:50.26 | zezom | or is that a bad idea? |
| 08:50.38 | zezom | I need more space |
| 08:54.21 | hrw | morning |
| 08:54.24 | hrw | zezom: you can |
| 08:54.24 | pH5 | zezom: I this it on the laptop all the time |
| 08:54.27 | pH5 | good morning hrw |
| 08:55.16 | zezom | thanks you very much :D |
| 08:55.24 | hrw | zezom: add 'INHERIT += "rm_work"' into local.conf so bitbake will remove it automatically. some stuff can broke anyway (which is bug in stuff) |
| 08:56.13 | hrw | my OE self-hosting OE build got restarted again.. |
| 08:56.36 | pH5 | restarted? why? |
| 09:01.02 | hrw | lack of rpcgen it was |
| 09:01.30 | hrw | fsck.. even when it has it it does not work ;( |
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| 09:04.36 | pH5 | hrw: :-/ that's the hardship of cutting-edge |
| 09:04.38 | pH5 | hi gremlin[it] |
| 09:06.16 | gremlin[it] | hi pH5 ! :) |
| 09:10.31 | hrw | hmm.. looks like again bitbake/OE fscked PATH |
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| 09:23.30 | Ifaistos | morning all |
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| 12:14.53 | Laibsch | RP: ping |
| 12:15.47 | Laibsch | Ifaistos: ping |
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| 12:23.52 | koen | someone's playing with the c parser again |
| 12:25.03 | hrw|gone | just looked at it. |
| 12:25.20 | hrw | I need to think about bittest |
| 12:31.28 | koen | stupid rainy weather |
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| 12:40.37 | likewise | hello all |
| 12:43.51 | koen | hey likewise |
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| 12:45.30 | hrw | bittest source_checker updated to fetching... |
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| 12:49.00 | Laibsch | Is there any reason not to implement bug 35? Alternatively, why not set it to WONTFIX? I guess this could be easily decided. |
| 12:49.03 | Laibsch | !oebug 35 |
| 12:49.04 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 35, Status: NEW, Created: 2005-05-24 15:23 |
| 12:49.05 | cdbot2 | * * bero(AT)arklinux.org: libsdl-qpe and libsdl-x11 are compiled with --disable-video-fbcon |
| 12:49.06 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35 |
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| 12:55.26 | koen | NOTE: package boost-1.33.0-r1: task do_compile: started |
| 12:55.50 | hrw | copying 4G of stuff on one partition takes time.... |
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| 12:57.32 | hrw | we have too many linux-*.tar.* versions... |
| 12:57.44 | koen | right |
| 12:57.47 | hrw | 2.6.17.9 instead of 2.6.17 + 2.6.17.9 patch |
| 12:57.48 | hrw | etc |
| 12:58.15 | koen | I always wondered why everyone added their own kernel |
| 12:58.21 | hrw | 2.6.1x-rc-efika.tgz is scary |
| 12:58.31 | hrw | sounds nearly as 2.4-crapix |
| 12:58.33 | koen | instead of SRC_URI_append_<machine> = "patches" |
| 12:59.18 | hrw | koen: then why you use linux-efika instead of linux? |
| 12:59.26 | hrw | ;D |
| 12:59.34 | hrw | NIH? |
| 12:59.42 | koen | because I noticed the splitout patches after I the tarball |
| 12:59.58 | koen | ~lart OE |
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| 13:01.04 | hrw | NOTE: Running the following tests: ['source_checker'] |
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| 13:06.25 | hrw | cu |
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| 13:54.53 | RP | Laibsch: pong |
| 13:56.55 | Laibsch | Laibsch: RP: Seems like the mailing list archive for matchbox on gmane.org is broken: http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/get_involved.html Can you fix this by contacting gmane.org admins? |
| 13:57.08 | Laibsch | Laibsch: RP: Would be nice to get the lost mails back into gmane as well. http://gmane.org/import.php |
| 13:57.35 | Laibsch | Laibsch: RP: You can change settings for the ML at http://gmane.org/info.php?group=gmane.comp.handhelds.matchbox |
| 14:00.52 | RP | Laibsch: This isn't something I handle - I'll mention it to Matthew |
| 14:01.34 | Laibsch | Oh, I see. Genesis recommended to contact you about this in #matchbox. |
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| 14:02.27 | RP | Laibsch: I work for the same company (Openedhand) :) |
| 14:03.15 | Laibsch | RP: I think we had already verified that http://rafb.net/paste/results/TD93cW92.html is fixed in trunk, hadn't we? Issue is that other files get downloaded or recompiled when issuing "bitbake -c $sometarget $somepackage" |
| 14:03.38 | Laibsch | Genesis does not work for o-hand? |
| 14:04.11 | RP | Laibsch: no, genesis does not |
| 14:04.20 | RP | Laibsch: Yes, that should be fixed in trunk |
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| 14:49.09 | psokolovsky | RP: Hi! Sorry to bother with RTC again, but rtc-sa1100 is yours, right? |
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| 14:53.02 | hrw | re |
| 15:02.29 | RP | psokolovsky: yes |
| 15:02.41 | RP | wb hrw |
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| 15:03.18 | psokolovsky | RP: So, i'd like to check what exact semanticts of "alrm wakeup" bit? |
| 15:04.05 | psokolovsky | RP: can we treat it as "yes, do wakeup on next alarm", not just "wakeup potentially enabled"? |
| 15:04.34 | RP | There were mails about think recently on lakml iirc |
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| 15:04.56 | hrw | re koen |
| 15:04.56 | psokolovsky | RP: about RTC stuff? |
| 15:05.29 | RP | psokolovsky: Yes, look for a mail from David Brownell, 1st Dec |
| 15:05.29 | koen | hey hrw |
| 15:05.39 | RP | hi koen |
| 15:05.46 | koen | hey RP |
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| 15:06.27 | RP | psokolovsky: Hang on, that isn't right |
| 15:06.31 | psokolovsky | RP: ok, thanks. I just see that in rtc-sa1100 that bit barely handled at all. For example, it is not reported back by sa1100_rtc_read_alarm() |
| 15:07.32 | RP | psokolovsky: LKML, 20th November, David Brownell, rtc-sa1100 tweaks |
| 15:08.18 | RP | psokolovsky: See the reply from Russell to answer your question |
| 15:08.57 | psokolovsky | RP: ok, thanks! |
| 15:14.40 | psokolovsky | RP: So yes, that's the reply I expected. But the simple q: how do I enable alarm irq in persistent manner? ioctl()'s effects persistent only for the time of fd being open. once app exits, there's no alarm. and I need it in the script which calls C app which does ioctl() |
| 15:15.35 | RP | psokolovsky: The simple answer, you can't |
| 15:16.19 | psokolovsky | RP: yep, I got an idea. what I essentially ask is the way to implement that, in the most suitable way ;-) |
| 15:17.37 | RP | psokolovsky: If you have no fd, how do you propose to receive this alarm from the kernel in userspace? |
| 15:19.08 | psokolovsky | RP: I need wakeup alarm, that's all. It's pretty natural that, if one can enable potential wakeup possibility, to request actual wakeup at the given time. |
| 15:20.02 | hrw | started 'bitbake gcc-cross' in chroot on x86 machine.. |
| 15:22.02 | RP | psokolovsky: The only way is to have the app fork/sleep with the current design. You can request the kernel interface is changed, I don't know if upstream will accept that |
| 15:22.46 | RP | I'm presuming you've tried with the current design and it requires the fd held open, I can't remember the specifics ;-) |
| 15:22.57 | CIA-4 | 03blaster8 07org.oe.dev * r3640a9bf... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:22.57 | CIA-4 | reiserfsprogs: update to build with >=2.6.18 kernel headers |
| 15:22.57 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.57 | psokolovsky | RP: So yes, I'd like to know your opinion - if I implement all that in sysfs, would that have a chance of being accepted? |
| 15:23.49 | psokolovsky | RP: yes, while fd is held, it wakes up, but closing FD resets rtc state to original, where all irq sources (periodic/alarm) are not active. |
| 15:26.56 | RP | psokolovsky: To be honest, I'd ask the RTC maintainer. I'd have nothing against it but it will raise some nasty questions and could influence/break existing behaviour |
| 15:27.26 | RP | psokolovsky: e.g. if an alarm is set through sysfs, is the alarm busy when acessed through the /dev file? |
| 15:29.24 | psokolovsky | RP: Ok, thanks. Just wanted to check with. Of course, it could break stuff, but it's for root's sole amusement. In this respect, it's the same as ask what will happen if do cat /dev/zero > /dev/mem ;-) |
| 15:29.46 | psokolovsky | so, sysfs access if obviously stateless - fire and forget |
| 15:30.05 | RP | psokolovsky: I don't mean break like that, I mean create tricky siutations where existing programs could work differently |
| 15:30.51 | psokolovsky | RP: if nothing will be written via sysfs, obviously, everything will work as usual. |
| 15:31.23 | RP | psokolovsky: You have to consider the interaction between an existing app using /dev/rtc and something else writing to sysfs |
| 15:31.57 | Crofton|home | koen, you about? |
| 15:32.38 | psokolovsky | RP: it is the same as considering interaction of something cat'ing to /dev/mem, as I told. use one or another, never both. |
| 15:33.03 | RP | psokolovsky: It is not as simple as that. You can't simply say that |
| 15:33.44 | RP | psokolovsky: Mainline rightly care about regressions and interactions. You need to say how you're going to handle things and I suspect "not using both" is not going to win their favour |
| 15:34.01 | psokolovsky | RP: that sux ;-). does that mean they will kill /dev/mem because you can't predict results of random writes to it on system behavior? ;-) |
| 15:34.13 | psokolovsky | RP: ok, I see |
| 15:34.25 | psokolovsky | then I just won't bother to clean it up for mainline ;-) |
| 15:34.53 | RP | psokolovsky: /dev/mem is known to be a risky and marked as such. class interfaces and meant to be much cleaner interfaces |
| 15:35.09 | RP | psokolovsky: coward ;-) |
| 15:35.16 | psokolovsky | ;-) |
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| 15:36.07 | zecke | koen|away: you know gnuplot fairly well |
| 15:36.27 | zecke | koen|away: I'm unable to plot something with yerrorbar and xerrorbar at the same time if I have only xdelta and ydelta |
| 15:36.46 | zecke | do you have some secret hints? |
| 15:38.31 | zecke | oh god... xyerrorbars != errorbars |
| 15:42.48 | hrw | hi zecke |
| 15:43.05 | hrw | fscking quilt.. |
| 15:43.24 | RP | zecke: gnuplot brings back memories: http://www.rp.rpsys.net/nbody/index.php and http://www.rp.rpsys.net/resmap/graphs/ . No use to you though :-/ |
| 15:44.29 | hrw | zecke: bittest/source_checker works with current bitbake |
| 15:47.11 | Crofton|home | anyone know how hard it is to get from Brussels airport to fosdem? |
| 15:48.34 | zecke | RP: how to make gnuplot use the same 'symbol' for its plots... |
| 15:54.47 | hrw | 5.7G of sources.. |
| 15:55.44 | likewise | Crofton|home: when will you arrive at Brussels |
| 15:56.35 | Crofton|home | I am just looking at info now |
| 15:56.46 | Crofton|home | it would appear I can get there for under 500usd |
| 15:58.35 | Crofton|home | How many #oe'rs are going to fosdem? We should have a page on the wiki |
| 15:59.25 | likewise | from the ml, 8? |
| 16:00.02 | Crofton|home | the OE event schedule says it is feb 23-25, but the fosdem webpage says 24-25 |
| 16:02.57 | zecke | drinking on friday the 23rd |
| 16:03.08 | likewise | the latter is correct, I assume most people arrive 23rd |
| 16:03.11 | Crofton|home | excellent |
| 16:03.14 | Crofton|home | yeah |
| 16:03.23 | Crofton|home | I would fly in on Friday AM |
| 16:04.16 | Crofton|home | Now for the really stupid question: |
| 16:04.24 | Crofton|home | What language are most of the talks in? |
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| 16:05.17 | RP | Crofton|home: English |
| 16:05.29 | Crofton|home | wew |
| 16:05.57 | Crofton|home | I kind of assumed that, but that is because I am very english centric |
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| 16:06.04 | woglinde | ~seen zecle |
| 16:06.21 | ibot | i haven't seen 'zecle', woglinde |
| 16:06.22 | woglinde | ~seen zecke |
| 16:06.26 | ibot | zecke is currently on #oe (30m 28s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 3m 30s, last said: 'drinking on friday the 23rd'. |
| 16:06.26 | zecke | no |
| 16:07.41 | likewise | Crofton|home: you are EFIKA enabled? |
| 16:07.48 | Crofton|home | yep |
| 16:07.51 | Crofton|home | it boots |
| 16:07.51 | RP | Crofton|home: I'll be there. Last time I was there we used taxis to get around |
| 16:07.57 | Crofton|home | well into the boot loader |
| 16:08.09 | likewise | Crofton|home: I just booted it first time. Used TFTP. |
| 16:08.13 | Crofton|home | can you walk from astrid to fosdem? |
| 16:08.26 | Crofton|home | likewise, that will be next |
| 16:08.32 | woglinde | he |
| 16:08.33 | RP | Crofton|home: No, its probably too far for that |
| 16:09.00 | koen | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/Fosdem2007 |
| 16:09.01 | Crofton|home | I was in Brussells for a few days about 5 years ago |
| 16:09.38 | likewise | koen: maybe add the nicks as well? |
| 16:09.40 | Crofton|home | koen, that page needs a link from the events page |
| 16:09.56 | koen | the hotels are near the drinking place, fosdem is on the other side of town |
| 16:10.09 | koen | metro -> bus -> 100m walk |
| 16:10.18 | koen | likewise: it's a wiki :) |
| 16:10.57 | likewise | koen: it's a what?! :-) |
| 16:11.03 | psokolovsky | RP: is it a general practise to create subdirs under /sys/class/<class>/<device>/ ? |
| 16:12.30 | RP | psokolovsky: That depends on what you're doing |
| 16:13.09 | psokolovsky | RP: I want to group all alarm attributes under separate dir below rtc0/ . |
| 16:13.32 | RP | psokolovsky: That would probably be acceptable |
| 16:14.18 | psokolovsky | RP: Just wonder how to do that... But I see to catch idea: if struct attribute_group has .name != null, that will be subdir |
| 16:14.27 | chouimat | morning |
| 16:14.59 | RP | psokolovsky: Which suggests subdirs are used to group attributes :) |
| 16:15.08 | psokolovsky | yep ;-) |
| 16:15.09 | RP | hi chouimat |
| 16:18.43 | likewise | koen: could you share your .conf for efika? |
| 16:19.05 | koen | likewise: ? |
| 16:19.25 | koen | I don't have machine specific config files :) |
| 16:20.55 | likewise | koen: I admit, I suck at my config files. |
| 16:21.23 | likewise | you do a MACHINE="efika" bitbake angstrom-image ? |
| 16:21.41 | koen | echo MACHINE=efika > conf/autoconf ; bitbake <foo> |
| 16:21.59 | koen | hrw|afk: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=bitbake |
| 16:22.04 | RP | koen: old school ;-) |
| 16:22.18 | koen | RP: not all poky tweaks are in .dev afaik |
| 16:22.40 | RP | koen: I need to fit that... |
| 16:25.35 | Laibsch | The author of granule tells me that can successfully compile granule against cvs now. I copied his bb file (http://oz.leggewie.org/wip/granule/granule_cvs.bb, only added PARALLE_MAKE) but I fail to compile it: http://oz.leggewie.org/wip/granule/061217.fail. |
| 16:25.58 | Laibsch | My config is at http://rafb.net/paste/results/yhsgzo95.html. Is the bb file maybe just a missing dependency or something? |
| 16:27.27 | koen | Laibsch: I suspect granule isn't gcc 4 safe |
| 16:28.07 | Laibsch | Should I set a preferrence for a lower version of gcc or do you suggest something else? |
| 16:28.28 | zecke | or doesn't work against the chosen gtkmm version |
| 16:28.53 | zecke | or Gtkmm is not ABI/API compatible... whatever |
| 16:29.54 | Laibsch | zecke: I believe that gtkmm was creating problems previously. I will see if setting preferred version of gtkmm to 2.4.8 helps. |
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| 16:41.42 | hrw|afk | koen: thx. I have to push one change for bitbake recipe anyway |
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| 16:46.37 | hrw|afk | [hrw@misc1 rp-pppoe]$ du -h ~/devel/build/celinux-test/tmp_sources/ |
| 16:46.37 | hrw|afk | 6.0G /home/hrw/devel/build/celinux-test/tmp_sources/ |
| 16:46.52 | hrw|afk | ~hail bittest |
| 16:46.54 | ibot | ACTION bows down to bittest and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 16:47.59 | sdjf | Anyone have a copy of kernel source for embedix 2.4.6 (Sharp ROM 2.38)? Can't find it anywhere. |
| 16:48.17 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r50e6b56f... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): bitbake: unified, added rdependency on python-crypt (md5) and python-netclient (tinderclient.bbclass) |
| 16:48.35 | hrw | 2.4.6? wow... |
| 16:48.39 | hrw | first crapix |
| 16:49.06 | hrw | 2.4.6, 2.4.13, 2.4.18, 2.4.20 |
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| 16:49.53 | hrw | sdjf: 2.4.6-crapix... we do not have it |
| 16:50.07 | hrw | sdjf: sharp should have it |
| 16:50.27 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.38 | sdjf | hrw: somebody might have old cp hanging around. isn't at sharp. we've hunted. will try again. |
| 16:52.41 | sdjf | hrw: 403: Forbidden, 'Directory Listing Denied' |
| 16:53.45 | sdjf | hrw: main page doesn't go back before C1000 |
| 16:53.55 | Laibsch | koen: Is there a reason that Google maps code is on every OE wiki page? It does not seem to serve a purpose. |
| 16:54.18 | hrw | sdjf: I know - just checked too |
| 16:55.24 | hrw | sdjf: why 2.4.6 at all? |
| 16:56.10 | sdjf | hrw: can't flash to better rOM because of neurological disability...don't want to brick my Z. |
| 16:57.01 | hrw | sdjf: where are you from? |
| 16:57.31 | hrw | sdjf: as long as you flash kernel + rootfs instead of sharprom ospack you should be sae |
| 16:57.35 | hrw | safe |
| 16:59.32 | hrw | ok. back to home work.. |
| 17:00.10 | Laibsch | sdjf: I do still have linux-sl5500-20030509-rom3_10.tar.bz2 if that helps. I might have other stuff. If you can tell me the filename, I can try to locate it. |
| 17:00.23 | hrw|afk | Laibsch: 3.10 is 2.4.18 |
| 17:00.43 | hrw|afk | Laibsch: OE never had 2.4.6-crapix |
| 17:00.52 | Laibsch | yes, I know it is more recent. But maybe better than nothing. At least it is 2.4 |
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| 17:01.45 | Laibsch | And I do have some Japanese sources as well since I used that to extract the Sharp HWR stuff. That might be older kernel, but I cannot tell from just looking at the filename. |
| 17:01.57 | sdjf | neic crashed again. missed answers |
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| 17:03.26 | sdjf | Laibsch: there's supposed to be a bzip file for 2.4.6... |
| 17:04.03 | Laibsch | sdjf: Here is what I have got on file: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RgfnZD40.html |
| 17:04.10 | Laibsch | I don't think I have it. |
| 17:04.27 | sdjf | Laibsch: either linux-sl5000d-20020318.tar.bz2 or linux-sl5500-20020910.tar.bz2 |
| 17:05.05 | likewise | What determines whether PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}-libc-for-gcc = "glibc-intermediate" or = "glibc" ? |
| 17:06.13 | sdjf | Laibsch: thanks. yeah, see what you mean :-( |
| 17:07.01 | Laibsch | sdjf: I think you can still get it from the web. |
| 17:07.05 | Laibsch | http://developer.ezaurus.com/sl_j/source/source_dl.htm |
| 17:07.23 | Laibsch | I think A300 and SL-5500 are the same device. |
| 17:07.36 | Laibsch | I am sure you can confirm or disconfirm that on the net. |
| 17:07.46 | Laibsch | If you have problems with the Japanese let me know. |
| 17:07.53 | Laibsch | Japanese language. |
| 17:08.49 | sdjf | Laibsch: really!! okay. on dialup so can't stay on but saw A300 stuff at archive.org as well. |
| 17:09.03 | Laibsch | http://developer.ezaurus.com/sl_j/source/source_dl_a300.htm has http://developer.ezaurus.com/sl_j/source/a300/20021224/linux-sla300-20021224-rom1_20.tar.bz2 |
| 17:09.21 | Laibsch | sdjf: Good luck |
| 17:10.09 | Laibsch | sdjf: above page also has http://developer.ezaurus.com/sl_j/source/a300/20020905/linux-sla300-20020905.tar.bz2 |
| 17:11.27 | sdjf | Laibsch: thanks. fetched the urls. CU |
| 17:11.38 | Laibsch | sdjf: I believe the sl-5500 is the b500, though. |
| 17:11.47 | Laibsch | But you get the general idea. |
| 17:12.35 | sdjf | yeah. will have my buddy take a closer look. thanks. |
| 17:12.48 | likewise | koen: in order to build angstrom-2007.1, I needed to add PREFERRED_PROVIDERS_powerpc += "virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}libc-for-gcc:glibc-intermediate" |
| 17:13.00 | Laibsch | sdjf: dou itashimashite ;-) |
| 17:13.30 | sdjf | don't know the language :(( |
| 17:13.48 | Laibsch | de nada/you're welcome/keine ursache/de rien/... |
| 17:14.07 | sdjf | hasta luego. ten cuidado! |
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| 17:25.28 | Laibsch | koen: What wiki software do we use? It seems mediawiki syntax is not fully implemented although I believe I read that claim somewhere on the page. |
| 17:25.47 | koen | Laibsch: drupal + liquidwiki |
| 17:26.14 | Laibsch | Do the projects claim to be fully compatible with mediawiki syntax? |
| 17:26.28 | koen | no |
| 17:26.42 | Laibsch | OK |
| 17:27.22 | koen | you can plugin a different parses to use some other syntax |
| 17:33.23 | koen | has anyone entertained the thought of starting the GUI session with nice -12? |
| 17:33.31 | Laibsch | Well, I fixed the problem in another way. |
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| 17:40.39 | hrw | Laibsch: sl-a300 != 5500 != b500 |
| 17:40.45 | hrw | Laibsch: b500 == sl-5600 |
| 17:41.05 | Laibsch | close enough ;-) And I said "I believe" |
| 17:41.15 | hrw | 17 18:08 < Laibsch> I think A300 and SL-5500 are the same device. |
| 17:41.18 | hrw | ;D |
| 17:41.26 | hrw | ~curse git fetcher |
| 17:41.27 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, git fetcher ! |
| 17:41.29 | Laibsch | Thanks for clarifying. But I think he left the chat. |
| 17:41.54 | Laibsch | hrw: I believe that "I think" and "I believe" are close enough, your honour. ;-) |
| 17:42.11 | hrw | time to do some calls... |
| 17:42.13 | hrw | brb |
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| 18:04.30 | Laibsch | http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/mini-init is the only file in packages/ which otherwise contains only directories. Is this supposed to be this way? |
| 18:06.45 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r02ab7c72... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gtkmm: unify, make use of GNOME_MIRROR |
| 18:06.58 | hrw | re |
| 18:07.07 | Laibsch | wb hrw |
| 18:07.24 | hrw | Laibsch: I do not remember what for mini-init is |
| 18:07.28 | Laibsch | BTW, why re? |
| 18:07.30 | hrw | ask on ML |
| 18:07.37 | Laibsch | OK |
| 18:07.43 | hrw | 're' as 'hi again' |
| 18:08.17 | hrw | 6.8G /home/hrw/devel/build/celinux-test/tmp_sources/ |
| 18:08.29 | hrw | OE need lot of stuff... |
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| 18:09.29 | chouimat | :) |
| 18:09.33 | hrw | 37 different kernel archives |
| 18:11.14 | Laibsch | hrw: well, but why re, why not ha? I could not figure out what it stands for, semantics is clear. "wb" for example becomes clear very fast. |
| 18:12.26 | hrw | Laibsch: years on Polish ircnet... |
| 18:13.30 | Laibsch | it seems this is not only used on polish IRC, or is it? |
| 18:14.09 | hrw | I'll try to switch out of re |
| 18:17.17 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.01 | hrw | time to force people to add md5 into SRC_URI |
| 18:18.12 | hrw | but first - food |
| 18:18.57 | koen | I 're'turn |
| 18:20.43 | hrw | ~seen [g2] |
| 18:21.06 | ibot | [g2] is currently on #openmoko (5h 22m 41s) #nslu2-linux (5h 22m 41s) #openezx (5h 22m 41s) #openjtag (5h 22m 41s) #openslug (5h 22m 41s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1h 36m 48s, last said: 'RobNC I think you want a / on that :)'. |
| 18:21.15 | XorA|gon1r | re short for re hello |
| 18:21.25 | XorA|gon1r | used not just on .pl |
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| 18:46.32 | Laibsch | koen: Indeed, that makes sense. |
| 18:47.20 | XorA|gon1r | Laibsch: just played battle star galactica divx on collie :-) |
| 18:47.25 | XorA|gon1r | Laibsch: using mplayer |
| 18:47.45 | Laibsch | Nice! I never play on my computer. I wonder if it was fun. |
| 18:47.56 | Laibsch | XorA|gon1r: So what did you do to fix this? |
| 18:49.01 | XorA|gon1r | Laibsch: I have applied the patch in 1666 on collie only as its a bug/feature of the toolchain that on collie only all .so files are marked as needed executable stack |
| 18:49.33 | XorA|gon1r | Laibsch: which is either a) a clever workaround for some arm4 reason, of b) just a stupid mistake |
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| 18:50.46 | XorA|gon1r | Laibsch: anyway I shall check changes into both branch and .dev tomorrow probably |
| 18:51.50 | Laibsch | Next set of unification patches (b letter today): |
| 18:51.57 | Laibsch | http://oz.leggewie.org/blueprobe.unify.patch |
| 18:52.02 | Laibsch | http://oz.leggewie.org/btsco.unify.patch |
| 18:52.04 | Laibsch | http://oz.leggewie.org/busybox.unify.patch |
| 18:52.21 | Laibsch | I guess blueprobe is a no-brainer and I will commit right-away |
| 18:53.04 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: Time to comment? |
| 18:54.53 | koen | [19:27] hrw: cu you tomorrow - rest of evening is already taken (19:28 here) |
| 19:02.01 | Laibsch | What is the "OE self hosted" that I saw hrw refer to a couple of times over the last few days? |
| 19:07.53 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2f49a884... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): blueprobe: unify |
| 19:08.10 | hrw|gone | Laibsch: I'm using Angstrom to build Angstrom |
| 19:11.54 | Laibsch | Ah, I see. |
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| 19:18.43 | Laibsch | oh no, looks like the BTS is going downhill again. |
| 19:25.44 | XorA|gone | god its been years since I hd collie cradled beside me |
| 19:25.55 | Laibsch | XorA|gone: Do you know what is creating the load now? Just the BTS? |
| 19:26.06 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: load? |
| 19:26.12 | Laibsch | Do you have (root) access? |
| 19:26.31 | Laibsch | XorA|gone: You said the BTS machine needed a faster CPU. |
| 19:26.47 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: no, I need a faster CPU |
| 19:27.24 | Laibsch | Ah, I see. Well, who doesn't? Plus an energy flatrate ;-) |
| 19:27.51 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: my poor amd64 used to be fast, now my work computer has 2x Xeon 64bits :-( |
| 19:27.58 | XorA|gone | so I feel slow at home |
| 19:28.38 | Laibsch | I use a Via C3 600 MHz for OE so you should not feel so bad. |
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| 19:28.49 | Laibsch | This is my router and LAN server |
| 19:29.06 | XorA|gone | Laibsch: ouch, I think my zaurus goes faster |
| 19:29.13 | Laibsch | Do not need an energy flatrate, I went for the C3 but it is slow. |
| 19:29.24 | Laibsch | s/Do/To/ |
| 19:31.35 | koen | bsg is addictive |
| 19:32.12 | koen | not the left machine? |
| 19:32.18 | XorA|gone | yup |
| 19:32.28 | XorA|gone | lefties are genetic freaks |
| 19:33.39 | goxboxlive | <XorA|gone> did you figure out the udev bug (touchscreen0) ? |
| 19:34.25 | zecke | Laibsch: mini-init: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/view/rev/10294/ |
| 19:35.19 | koen | yeah, yeah, blame it all on me |
| 19:35.34 | zecke | koen wrote OE in one day :) |
| 19:35.41 | koen | yes |
| 19:35.43 | koen | and linux |
| 19:36.16 | zecke | http://openembedded.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/diffs/packages/mini-init@1.1?nav=index.html|src/.|src/packages|hist/packages/mini-init |
| 19:36.19 | zecke | hmm |
| 19:36.23 | koen | but some finnish dude ran away with it |
| 19:42.02 | XorA|gone | goxboxlive: if its not the udev being replaced with wrong one, I got no idea |
| 19:42.17 | Laibsch | zecke: So can I remove it? |
| 19:43.06 | zecke | only if you answer the question: how did the file become a directory |
| 19:44.02 | koen | because of herbs |
| 19:44.49 | Laibsch | zecke: Well, that seems natural. mini-init is the oddman-out. |
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| 19:45.36 | Laibsch | miniinit does not seem odd to me. |
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| 20:09.11 | Crofton | bugzilla seems sluggish |
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| 21:22.39 | sdjf | Laibsch: A300, B500, Cxxx use a different processor than the sl5x00 series. We'll just have to keep hunting for someone who didn't toss out their 2.4.6 kernel source. |
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| 21:25.16 | koen | sl5600 uses an xscale 25x as well |
| 21:25.59 | sdjf | koen: okay. what about sl5000? |
| 21:26.10 | koen | strongarm |
| 21:26.19 | sdjf | koen: perfect |
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| 21:42.38 | likewise | Crofton|home: any plans with your efika soonish? |
| 21:45.12 | Crofton | I want to get some software defined radio stuff on it |
| 21:45.32 | Crofton | but I need my RF interface board to work with full speed usb (not just high speed) |
| 21:45.39 | Crofton | So I am working on that now |
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| 22:25.44 | likewise | Crofton: I just managed to build a minimal angstrom-bootstrap for efika. Don't know if koen did this already. I needed three small changes to make it work. |
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| 22:28.31 | Crofton_ | likewise, cool |
| 22:28.42 | Crofton_ | likewise, koen|away ha some images |
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| 22:29.36 | likewise | Crofton_: ok, and HopsNBarley is working on PPC too, but apart from that not many ppl with PPC I guess. |
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| 22:35.06 | [g2] | RP what's the status with building debian packages ? |
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| 22:56.54 | CIA-4 | 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * ra3b16e74... 10/ (13 files in 2 dirs): glibc: first step to unify |
| 23:04.20 | psokolovsky | Laibsch, you didn't forget blueprobe.inc? |
| 23:08.12 | Laibsch | psokolovsky: Strange, it looks like mtn did not pick that up (I called it via 'mtn diff packages/blueprobe/') |
| 23:08.21 | Laibsch | I'll make sure that gets fixed. |
| 23:08.25 | Laibsch | Thanks for the pointer. |
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| 23:09.03 | psokolovsky | Laibsch, "mtn ls unknown" may be useful |
| 23:09.48 | Laibsch | yes, that seems to be the problem. Before mtn would complain if I had not yet added a particular in a directory I committed. |
| 23:09.52 | Laibsch | Not this time. |
| 23:13.10 | Laibsch | s/a particular/a particular file/ |
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| 23:29.10 | likewise | good nite |
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