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| 07:03.41 | Longfield | hello there ! |
| 07:20.45 | Bernardo | good morning |
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| 07:56.58 | NAiL | morning all |
| 07:57.07 | ade|desk | morning NAiL |
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| 08:33.16 | koen | good morning all |
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| 08:48.26 | koen | http://hughsient.livejournal.com/6702.html |
| 08:48.28 | koen | finally |
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| 08:50.10 | XorA | morning |
| 08:50.15 | koen | hey XorA |
| 08:56.06 | tkp | morning |
| 08:56.37 | XorA | RP: ping |
| 08:59.33 | XorA | RP: I would say close 1130 as a works for me, pth used to fail for me on amd64 and I used to have a patch for it locally, but I havent needed to apply that patch for months |
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| 09:00.52 | Genesis | hi |
| 09:01.34 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:03.42 | XorA | hey hrw|work |
| 09:05.49 | hrw|work | finally reflashed bios on home machine. but sound is still fscked |
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| 09:06.47 | zecke | mickey|AMS|zzZZz: HEY!!! |
| 09:06.52 | zecke | mickey|AMS|zzZZz: Do you happen to have an URL? |
| 09:08.51 | XorA | hrw|work: nforce4? |
| 09:10.56 | hrw|work | XorA: ati rs482+sb400 |
| 09:18.52 | hrw|work | XorA: from posts over net it looks like also dfi (manufacturer) fault - ACPI is fscked |
| 09:19.28 | koen | the joys of x86 |
| 09:20.30 | XorA | at least with ACPI you can replace it in kernel |
| 09:20.45 | XorA | just find someone who has fixed and recompiled the table then fix them in the kernel |
| 09:24.22 | hrw|work | XorA: which distro on it? |
| 09:25.12 | XorA | hrw|work: openwrt |
| 09:25.42 | hrw|work | rc5 whiterussian? |
| 09:25.47 | XorA | hrw|work: yup |
| 09:26.45 | hrw|work | XorA: MACHINE=wrt54 DISTRO=wrtoe if you need something from OE to run under openwrt |
| 09:27.28 | XorA | hrw|work: I know, but with 1.8M Im not gonna put much on there |
| 09:27.50 | koen | XorA: not even mplayer? |
| 09:28.13 | XorA | koen: a one LED output device doesnt really do it for me, pr0n wise :-) |
| 09:28.40 | hrw|work | XorA: 1.8M? how much flash does GL has? |
| 09:29.16 | XorA | hrw|work: 16 |
| 09:29.18 | hrw|work | my wrt54gs has ~5M free |
| 09:29.21 | XorA | erm 4 |
| 09:29.23 | hrw|work | /dev/root 7.1M 2.5M 4.7M 35% / |
| 09:29.38 | hrw|work | XorA: u... small indeed |
| 09:29.51 | hrw|work | root@OpenWrt:~# uptime 10:30:50 up 12 days, 16:14, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
| 09:30.09 | XorA | but I plan to run applications on a n2100 when I buy it |
| 09:30.29 | XorA | koen: the 0.30 snapshots in snapshot directory are not updating |
| 09:30.29 | koen | "Estimated Delivery Date:06 Nov 2006 (Subject to change)" |
| 09:30.38 | koen | XorA: correct |
| 09:30.44 | XorA | koen: :-( |
| 09:30.50 | koen | XorA: want me to update them? |
| 09:31.04 | XorA | koen: would save me a pull |
| 09:31.14 | XorA | koen: but if its gonna take ages, dont bother |
| 09:32.48 | koen | XorA: it's just a 'cp ; bzip2 ; md5sum' :) |
| 09:32.49 | XorA | koen: cool, then please do |
| 09:33.15 | koen | done |
| 09:35.34 | hrw|work | koen: bzip -c9 db >db.bz2;md5sum |
| 09:36.11 | hrw|work | no need for cp |
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| 09:54.44 | Genesis | bonjour obergix[work] |
| 09:54.52 | obergix[work] | hi |
| 09:56.18 | koen | ~kill opensync releases |
| 09:56.20 | ibot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse anti-meson gun at opensync releases |
| 10:03.24 | XorA | koen: what they borked? |
| 10:03.42 | koen | XorA: their "file release system" |
| 10:03.56 | koen | XorA: they attach tarballs to the wiki, thus breaking wget |
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| 10:04.23 | koen | XorA: So I have to download it all manually and scp it to oe.org/sources ... |
| 10:07.35 | XorA | koen: ah, yeah, mplayer-atty I used to have to do the same |
| 10:18.42 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcfb9ea3f... 10/ (1 packages/opensync/libopensync_0.20.bb): libopensync: update to 0.20 |
| 10:18.45 | koen | XorA: what do I need to change to get networkmanager working on my device? |
| 10:21.30 | XorA | koen: instead of at_console put user=koen |
| 10:21.43 | XorA | koen: start dhcdbd and NetworkManager |
| 10:21.52 | XorA | koen: start nm-applet |
| 10:22.16 | XorA | koen: make sure wlan card is plugged in before starting NetworkManager |
| 10:22.35 | koen | hmmm |
| 10:22.46 | XorA | koen: you also need wpa-supplicant 0.51 and 0.4.X seems to be busted |
| 10:23.06 | hrw|work | I have 0.5.5 |
| 10:23.44 | koen | 0.5.1 is the latest in .dev |
| 10:23.50 | hrw|work | I know |
| 10:24.08 | XorA | 0.5.5 I needed autoconf 2.60 :-( |
| 10:24.37 | hrw|work | XorA: really? I got it build with oe one |
| 10:25.16 | koen | | Checking kernel configuration... FAILED| Please enable PCI support. |
| 10:25.19 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/11/07/how-to-flash-bios-without-floppy-disk-drive/ btw |
| 10:25.19 | koen | grrrrrrrr |
| 10:25.21 | XorA | hrw|work: build against gnutls? |
| 10:25.24 | hrw|work | koen: madwifi? |
| 10:25.31 | hrw|work | XorA: it need one patch |
| 10:25.38 | hrw|work | XorA: I will push it when find time at home |
| 10:26.13 | XorA | we need to find some where to intergrate nm, properly into gpe/opie (if opie lives anymore) |
| 10:27.01 | XorA | and get it to work with WPA/WPA2 |
| 10:28.18 | koen | XorA: | Checking kernel configuration... FAILED| Please enable PCI support. |
| 10:28.20 | koen | aargh |
| 10:28.27 | koen | XorA: http://hughsient.livejournal.com/6702.html |
| 10:35.27 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r0e496542... 10/ (1 packages/libgsm/libgsm_1.0.10.bb): |
| 10:35.27 | CIA-4 | libgsm/libgsm_1.0.10.bb : Fix broken Source URL |
| 10:35.27 | CIA-4 | applied changes from 80a3103a361a99eeabe30712b9f3f3b31d8b74f9 |
| 10:35.27 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:44.05 | XorA | koen: feel free to merge in hal in fully working form :-) |
| 10:44.18 | hrw|work | ~lart file |
| 10:45.58 | koen | XorA: hal is only an extra user away from working |
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| 10:46.15 | koen | XorA: RP and I have run hal in the past, built from OE |
| 10:46.17 | koen | hey zecke |
| 10:46.28 | zecke | mickey|AMS|zzZZz: hey? should I give you a call? |
| 10:46.58 | koen | zecke: wait 5 hours :) |
| 10:47.12 | XorA | koen: where is the announce? |
| 10:47.47 | koen | zecke: you could mickeyl to ask for the url of the press announcement |
| 10:48.01 | koen | XorA: which announce? |
| 10:48.11 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 10:48.11 | XorA | koen: the secret one, wheres it happening? |
| 10:48.41 | koen | XorA: http://www.informatm.com/marlin/30000000861/OPTION_VIEW/marketingid/20001437372/productid/20001437373/optionid/20001437380 |
| 10:49.01 | koen | the "Mystery Guest Speaker: Optimising the Potential of Open Source in Mobile – New Device Showcase" one |
| 10:49.12 | XorA | koen: ah cool |
| 10:49.42 | koen | mickeyl isn't the mystery guest |
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| 10:49.52 | koen | although he will present 1 slide :) |
| 10:50.13 | XorA | someone get mallum to stream it |
| 10:50.24 | koen | mallum's there? |
| 10:50.52 | XorA | koen: Lrg thinks he told him he was |
| 10:52.53 | zecke | koen: five more hours? |
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| 10:54.02 | XorA | hey florian_kc |
| 10:54.39 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 10:55.43 | nicolasfr | morning |
| 10:56.01 | koen | hey nicolasfr |
| 10:56.10 | nicolasfr | I found interesting stuff while googleing: http://myth.s182.xrea.com/wiki/?EXTRA%20MENU003%2F004 |
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| 10:56.51 | nicolasfr | wzero3 has a menu called "Zaurus test". Same menus has in zaurus (nand backup, nand flash, ...) |
| 10:57.27 | likewise | koen: pong msg, yeah hell I wanna test :-) |
| 10:58.12 | koen | likewise: :) |
| 10:58.41 | likewise | koen: are you ixp4xx-less at this moment? |
| 10:59.01 | koen | likewise: there's a loft on my desk right now |
| 10:59.07 | likewise | running eabi? |
| 10:59.15 | koen | likewise: but I'm waiting for the POE adaptor to power it |
| 10:59.18 | koen | likewise: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/unbreak-ix4xx-for-not-slugos.diff |
| 10:59.26 | likewise | how frustrating |
| 11:00.27 | likewise | koen: ok, this machine conf, and then with angstrom? |
| 11:02.00 | likewise | koen: the mtn header of the diff shows more files being diffed, which are not in the diff, is that intentional? |
| 11:02.21 | koen | likewise: it has some spurious entries, yet |
| 11:02.26 | koen | s/yet/yes/ |
| 11:02.54 | koen | MACHINE=ipx4xx DISTRO=angstrom-2007.1 should build something |
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| 11:06.34 | lrg | morning all |
| 11:06.41 | koen | hey lrg |
| 11:07.20 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r689ffd30... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: add 'screen' and 'pci' machine features |
| 11:07.49 | hrw|work | hi Liam |
| 11:08.02 | hrw|work | someone want to fight with 'file' update? |
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| 11:08.15 | koen | hrw|work: hell no |
| 11:08.20 | koen | hrw|work: I tried yesterday |
| 11:08.34 | koen | I'm out of goats to sacrifice |
| 11:08.49 | lrg | hey Marcin, koen |
| 11:09.08 | hrw|work | koen: file: could not find any magic files! |
| 11:09.12 | hrw|work | koen: or other? |
| 11:09.31 | koen | hrw|work: depending on the version of file-native, that one or others |
| 11:09.37 | NAiL | koen: Your commit is only two commented lines? |
| 11:10.08 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: I'd like to move /etc/default/rcS.d from svinit to "initscripts" to allow for a machine specific config of that file. Any objections? |
| 11:10.18 | koen | NAiL: yes |
| 11:10.35 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: how will they differ? |
| 11:11.14 | CoreDump|home | poodle will have a version to allow fsck on boot |
| 11:11.50 | CoreDump|home | well,if that root-on-sd thing works out anyway |
| 11:11.57 | likewise | Hmm, I am at loss, what task has ixp4xx-kernel end up in deploy/images/? |
| 11:12.17 | likewise | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:12.18 | koen | likewise: most likely do_deploy |
| 11:12.36 | koen | likewise: but you'll never know with those funky nslu2 dudes ;) |
| 11:12.55 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: maybe fix checkroot.sh so all machines will get it? |
| 11:13.21 | likewise | koen: ah, that one is not in the interactive / default bitbake task list, let's see what triggers it then. |
| 11:13.23 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: fsck of the rootfs only makes senso if root isn't on flash |
| 11:14.10 | koen | CoreDump|home: you can use ext2 on mtd, so you mean 'if root isn't jffs2' |
| 11:14.10 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: anyway you need to add fsck to all models... each can (alt)boot from sd/cf |
| 11:14.24 | CoreDump|home | koen: good point |
| 11:15.06 | CoreDump|home | well, I guess I could hack checkroot to only check an ext2 rootfs? |
| 11:15.27 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: just run fsck maybe? |
| 11:15.40 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: c3x00 use ext3 |
| 11:15.41 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: checkroot was written for that purpose |
| 11:16.15 | CoreDump|home | hmmm |
| 11:17.14 | likewise | koen: suppose I will not use angstrom as the distro, what requires the EABI to be built, apart from the diff? |
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| 11:17.46 | koen | likewise: the stuff under the EABI comments in the angstrom conf files :) |
| 11:18.10 | likewise | koen: ok, you convinced me, I'll work from a seperate build dir :-) |
| 11:18.17 | likewise | koen: angstrom it is. |
| 11:19.29 | koen | likewise: TMPDIR=/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/${DISTRO} |
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| 11:21.16 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: I'll enable fsck for all models, and hack checkroot.sh to only start if the rootfs is declared as ext2 (and maybe ext3) in fstab |
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| 11:23.40 | likewise | koen: going for angstrom-bootstrap-image, using bitbake 1.7.2 (with my incredible regexp-support-for-ignore-depencies-for-dependency-graph patch) |
| 11:24.47 | koen | likewise: cool |
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| 12:05.27 | CIA-4 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r5f21c437... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom-2007.1.conf: add FEED_ARCH_magician |
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| 12:21.14 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9bb2161d... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libgnome(ui): update to 2.16.0 |
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| 12:31.13 | koen | XorA: gtk/pangoxft+cairo/magicnumbers is indeed a lot faster! |
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| 12:33.24 | XorA | koen: goodo |
| 12:33.57 | koen | printing from abiword works as well |
| 12:34.06 | koen | it picks up my network printers :) |
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| 12:34.19 | XorA | koen: wicked |
| 12:34.30 | XorA | war printing here we come |
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| 12:37.29 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r16db091b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): tslib: touchscreen, not touchsreen |
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| 12:42.22 | koen | XorA: http://www.abiword.org/downloads/abiword/2.4.6/source/ |
| 12:47.16 | likewise | koen: the magicnumbers patch is in OE already? I was about to test it locally. |
| 12:47.38 | likewise | koen: cairo 1.2.6+magicnumbers double_to_fix, that is. |
| 12:48.27 | koen | likewise: it is |
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| 12:48.56 | koen | likewise: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=749aa1340946e929e3de2422cb6c275ee1ae34ba |
| 12:50.18 | koen | likewise: the upcoming cairo release should be a bit faster with the new tesselator as well |
| 12:50.20 | likewise | koen: yup, that implementation was nicely done. thnx for bringing it in OE. You might want to copy-paste 1.2.4 to 1.2.6 also (for testing). 1.2.6 has some other performance wins besides the patch |
| 12:50.26 | likewise | koen: yup :-) |
| 12:51.38 | Longfield|work | koen: hello |
| 12:52.13 | koen | Longfield|work: hey |
| 12:52.16 | XorA | isnt a tesselator a thing that makes massive arks of electricity? |
| 12:52.20 | koen | Longfield|work: the armv5 build is still running |
| 12:52.47 | Crofton | XorA, tesla coil :) |
| 12:52.47 | koen | XorA: that's 'tesla' |
| 12:52.47 | tkp | how can I add something to OVERRIDES... would it be OVERRIDES += ":stv" |
| 12:53.04 | koen | XorA: I'm building abiword 2.4.6 right now |
| 12:53.15 | Crofton | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil |
| 12:53.17 | XorA | koen: here to |
| 12:53.29 | koen | XorA: before it has been released :) |
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| 12:53.38 | likewise | wb hrw |
| 12:55.46 | Longfield|work | koen: ;P you've guessed about my question |
| 12:56.23 | Longfield|work | koen: you've been adding imx31/armv6 patches ? |
| 12:56.40 | koen | Longfield|work: no, imx31 is lrg's work |
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| 13:00.37 | XorA | NOTE: package abiword-embedded-2.4.6: completed |
| 13:05.02 | koen | | checking for cairo's PNG backend... |
| 13:05.02 | koen | | /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cairo-1.2.6-r0/cairo-1.2.6/configure: line 25428: --exists: command not found |
| 13:05.11 | koen | likewise: cairo 1.2.6 doesn't build... |
| 13:06.28 | koen | XorA: I'll push an update to abiword.inc later today |
| 13:07.24 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r031c2e2e... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): abiword: update to 2.4.6 |
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| 13:12.24 | likewise | koen: it builds here. cannot remember anything special I had to do. Oh yes, I remember, it needed pkg-config 0.19, but I told it to require only 0.15 and That Worked For Me (tm) |
| 13:12.58 | likewise | koen: That Built For Me (tm) rather. Have not run it on the XScale yet |
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| 13:16.17 | Bernardo | hi |
| 13:16.36 | hrw|work | hi Bernardo |
| 13:17.03 | lrg | Longfield|work: I'm a little behind with the mx21/mx31 patches due to recently moving house. I'll aim for some bb this weekend. |
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| 13:19.59 | Longfield|work | lrg: ok. So you've been "including" iMX31 in openembedded. Fine ! I'm planning to use openembedded to build a distro for our robot which will have an iMX31 |
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| 13:20.55 | lrg | Longfield|work: I have angstrom and 2.6.18 running on my mx31, but I still have to finish the bb's |
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| 13:22.46 | Longfield|work | lrg: you have the ADS board ? because I've been using Freescale LTIB with it until now, but I find it ... not so good. So I want to move to openembedded. But I've been unable to build the cross-compile tools with OE |
| 13:23.29 | Bernardo | koen: I've opened a bug on the strip errors I'm getting (#1558) |
| 13:25.49 | lrg | Longfield|work: yes I've got 2 ads boards. Fwiw, I've commited an arm1136 tune, so you should be able to build and angstrom toolchain for the mx31. |
| 13:26.03 | lrg | an |
| 13:26.37 | lrg | Longfield|work: whats your email address ? |
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| 13:27.14 | Longfield|work | lrg: well, that's what I've been trying to do, but I always get the same compile error using arm1136tune in gcc-cross package |
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| 13:35.22 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4e999416... 10/ (1 packages/abiword/abiword.inc): abiword.inc: package up some more files |
| 13:38.05 | vlo | lrg: did you get my private message ? |
| 13:38.32 | vlo | lrg: sorry, just saw your answer |
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| 14:07.37 | koen | valLongfield|wor: starting a mx31ads build now |
| 14:09.07 | valLongfield | koen: great ! but still can't understand why it failed for me with the OE tree from yesterday on angstrom ... |
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| 14:19.27 | ade|desk | time to prove linux is naff at docking stations.... |
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| 14:27.50 | ade|desk | hmm case proven |
| 14:27.51 | Genesis | how to know the dependance of an ipk ? |
| 14:27.59 | Genesis | i don't find the right cmd |
| 14:28.36 | Genesis | i'm trying to make a script for tftp repository |
| 14:29.17 | lestat | sry, maybe an OT question here, but #openzaurus seems to be asleep... so I'll xpost here |
| 14:29.30 | lestat | hi all, I saw that there are 3.5.4.2 feeds for collie, and since I need to reflash my Z, I'm wondering if there's also the images, somewhere... also devel ones, I don't mind testing software |
| 14:29.42 | koen | lestat: read the topic |
| 14:29.55 | koen | "this is still not a distribution support channel" |
| 14:30.10 | lestat | koen: oh, ok, sorry again |
| 14:30.18 | XorA | ~lart me for being a mong |
| 14:31.08 | Genesis | whatdepends works only on packname , not against ipk |
| 14:31.35 | Genesis | perharps i should first copy ipk in a repository directory on the board ? |
| 14:32.09 | Genesis | my first pb is i've no TCP on this board ,i can't use wget and ftp/http repository |
| 14:32.17 | lrg | XorA: something obvious in the DMA ? |
| 14:32.33 | Genesis | hey lrg , did you post you patch for mx ? |
| 14:32.39 | XorA | lrg: read register, set to zero, then wonder why I lost all the flags |
| 14:33.25 | lrg | Genesis: sorry, been moving house last week. I'll try at the weekend. It's almost there. |
| 14:33.44 | lrg | XorA: heh, I've also done that before |
| 14:34.11 | valLongfield | oh, I see I'm not the only one waiting for mx patches ! what are you all guys doings with mx boards ? |
| 14:34.26 | lrg | valLongfield: working on audio |
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| 14:35.00 | Genesis | valLongfield, : i see you in my searsh |
| 14:35.27 | Genesis | valLongfield, : wha's application ? |
| 14:36.28 | koen | valLongfield: NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.1-r7: task do_compile: started |
| 14:36.33 | valLongfield | Genesis: I don't understand what you said before ... I'm working in robotics, we will have a iMX31 mobile robots |
| 14:36.58 | valLongfield | koen: I'm waiting for the result with great anxiety ... |
| 14:39.06 | Genesis | valLongfield, : i remember oki |
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| 14:39.31 | Genesis | valLongfield, : i'm french you know , we should be able to understand us :) |
| 14:39.48 | Genesis | if you need some help :) |
| 14:40.15 | Genesis | i saw you were using freescale patch ( obvious montavista kernel , like me ) |
| 14:40.50 | valLongfield | Genesis: good ... second french guy I'm meeting working on imx31 |
| 14:41.05 | Genesis | mx21 for me |
| 14:41.17 | Genesis | valLongfield, : we're a lot , but we will not create a club :) |
| 14:41.44 | koen | valLongfield: NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.1: completed |
| 14:42.22 | valLongfield | koen: aaahhh goooood ... but still can't understand what's wrong for me ... |
| 14:42.36 | valLongfield | Genesis: hum ... maybe we should create one ;) |
| 14:42.39 | Genesis | valLongfield, : what is the version of your kernel ? |
| 14:43.20 | valLongfield | Genesis: I'm still using 2.6.16 distributed by Freescale |
| 14:44.40 | Genesis | hum oki |
| 14:46.03 | valLongfield | Genesis: I also have a mx21 litekit. We bought it to test a few features, but now we've moved to imx31 because we need VFP for our robotics applications |
| 14:48.54 | Genesis | valLongfield, : i think the kernel you have is not on the web , isn't it ? |
| 14:50.01 | valLongfield | Genesis: the one I use for mx31 is on Freescale website. For mx21, no idea, I haven't worked with it for months |
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| 14:50.15 | Genesis | oki |
| 14:52.43 | Genesis | valLongfield, : could you send it to me to see some thing in it , i need a valid member ttruc to download it , and freescale never send mine |
| 14:53.43 | valLongfield | just one general question here: I will need JTAG probe to download and debug code on my custom design. Someone knows a good one with USB support on Linux ? Someone has experience with Macraigor ones (because they are cheap) to download some code on a bare processor (for instance to download bootloader in RAM at first boot) ? |
| 14:54.12 | Genesis | usb one , don't know |
| 14:54.14 | Genesis | ask on #elinux |
| 14:54.34 | Genesis | here we have a bdi2000 so :) |
| 14:55.10 | valLongfield | Genesis: it's a huge ISO ... but I have a common Freescale account and I can download it without problem. Just recreate your Freescale account |
| 14:55.21 | Genesis | valLongfield, : i just want the kernel |
| 14:55.55 | Genesis | i've not the freescale accound , if just the targz is too huge for you , nevermind |
| 14:56.24 | Genesis | the others things like rpm repackaging and metrowerk goodies , no thx :) |
| 14:57.08 | valLongfield | Genesis: ok I can give you the targzed patches ... but it's mx31 only ... do you still want it ? |
| 14:57.19 | Genesis | mx31 only only ? |
| 14:57.27 | Genesis | or mxc plateforms ? |
| 14:59.01 | Genesis | i still want ;) ronan@aimao.Org |
| 14:59.06 | valLongfield | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:03.26 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:05.14 | valLongfield | Genesis: sent you the mail |
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| 15:06.52 | Genesis | thx valLongfield |
| 15:10.10 | koen | lrg: one less local patch needed for mx31ads :) |
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| 15:11.17 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0b88454c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc): angstrom: disable binary locale generation for mx31ads since qemu doesn't like armv6/eabi/hardvfp |
| 15:13.23 | chouimat | iMX31?? |
| 15:13.30 | koen | if only freescale would have a 'sample' button for the mx31ads :) |
| 15:13.50 | Genesis | i was discuting about launch a buisness with this guys : armadeus.com ( mxl for the moment , but mx31 the next ) |
| 15:14.38 | VoodooZ | well, valLongfield said he was using it for Robobtics which is what I want to so I guess it must be pretty well suite then. |
| 15:15.14 | valLongfield | do you guys know about imx31 litekit ? |
| 15:15.58 | Genesis | i think , but there is an fpga on their board |
| 15:16.00 | Genesis | for 100$ |
| 15:16.13 | Genesis | do you have fpga on the litekit ;) |
| 15:16.35 | Genesis | and the design is free :) |
| 15:17.06 | Genesis | it's an assoc , it's not a huge fscking company... |
| 15:17.30 | valLongfield | http://www.logicpd.com/eps/som/freescale/iMX31/ |
| 15:17.36 | chouimat | this? http://www.logicpd.com/eps/devkits/freescale/devkit/imx_devkit/ |
| 15:17.42 | likewise | koen: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/YltBC923.html |
| 15:17.55 | valLongfield | right chouimat, it's this |
| 15:18.31 | chouimat | valLongfield: ok 675$ ... hmmm out of my reach for now |
| 15:19.37 | valLongfield | chouimat: yeah, still expensive, but much better than an ADS |
| 15:19.59 | chouimat | I bet |
| 15:20.19 | koen | the ADS is $4k iirc |
| 15:20.38 | koen | likewise: is that a qemu built by OE or from your host? |
| 15:22.00 | likewise | koen: good point, I dunno for sure, as I *do seem* to have a host-installed qemu also. What's OE path order? |
| 15:22.19 | koen | the one is staging should take precedence |
| 15:23.09 | likewise | koen: ok, just to be sure, I just completely removed the qemu package from my host. It still fails. |
| 15:23.15 | VoodooZ | nice. it does all colour space conversion and lots more. |
| 15:23.50 | VoodooZ | no I2C but that's not a big deal if it has USB host. |
| 15:25.46 | VoodooZ | 532Mhz. sweet. I wonder how efficient it would be to do CV stuff when compared to a x86 though. |
| 15:26.12 | koen | likewise: I use "qemu-native 0.8.2+cvs20060723-r1 " |
| 15:27.21 | valLongfield | VoodooZ: it has an I2C bus |
| 15:27.22 | likewise | koen: yep, matches. host is amd64. qemu-native-0.8.2+cvs20060723-r1/ |
| 15:27.53 | valLongfield | on integer, I get |
| 15:28.25 | likewise | koen: exact invocation is as follows: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/x0yWSv85.html |
| 15:28.49 | likewise | koen: sry, line does not wrap |
| 15:28.50 | valLongfield | Voodooz: from a basic approximation I've been able to do, I get 15% of the performance of my 1.6GHz Pentium M |
| 15:30.27 | valLongfield | so it should still be able to do some CV ... we've already done some on a an xscale which had a bad USB cam and no VFP, so here with cam interface and performance boost, it only be better |
| 15:30.51 | likewise | koen: this is a bit more readable: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/xC6Vyg60.html |
| 15:30.55 | VoodooZ | valLongfield: good. But how good is it on power? |
| 15:31.18 | likewise | I like this board: http://www.logicpd.com/eps/som/freescale/MCF5475/ |
| 15:31.28 | VoodooZ | as those board are probably harder to get and more expensive than an older portable so I'm still undecided. |
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| 15:33.11 | valLongfield | VoodoZ: yeah but my robot is only 20 cm and must be very low on consumption (autonomy is very important) so cannot put a PC, even some sort of PC104 board |
| 15:33.26 | valLongfield | *20cm diameter |
| 15:33.32 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * reb49c73a... 10/ (1 conf/machine/mx31ads.conf): mx31ads: add task-base stuff |
| 15:37.11 | VoodooZ | valLongfield: I definitely understand. Mine is limited to 30cmx30cmx30cm for the trinity firefighting robot competition. |
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| 15:37.37 | VoodooZ | That's why I used the NSLU2 board when I saw it and being a commercial product it's cheap. |
| 15:38.11 | VoodooZ | I guess there's a trade-off between performance/power consumption. just no escaping it. |
| 15:38.30 | chouimat | :) |
| 15:38.31 | VoodooZ | valLongfield: do you have initial current consumption readings? |
| 15:39.28 | valLongfield | VoodooZ: yep I saw it on your webpage. I think it's a very good idea ... I used to do the same for Eurobot, we took an IPAQ h3300 with familiar as embedded controller ... it has worked really great ! |
| 15:39.50 | valLongfield | well, at full performance, it's around 1.5W |
| 15:40.01 | valLongfield | but it's a very rough estimate |
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| 15:40.24 | valLongfield | because it's hard to isolate the proc consumption on the whole ADS board |
| 15:42.29 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6452a9b0... 10/ (1 conf/machine/mx31ads.conf): mx31ads.conf: add some more compatible archs |
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| 15:50.19 | VoodooZ | what's the ADS board? |
| 15:50.44 | koen | the official dev board from freescale |
| 15:52.30 | VoodooZ | I have to admit that us (the robotics crowd) are pretty hard to satify. we need small, high performance and low current. :( |
| 15:52.39 | VoodooZ | must be expensive? |
| 15:52.51 | koen | $3999 |
| 15:53.15 | VoodooZ | ouch!!!! |
| 15:53.31 | VoodooZ | that's the reason I went with the slug. Must cheaper. |
| 15:53.42 | VoodooZ | The gumstix looked really good but had no USB host. |
| 15:53.48 | VoodooZ | I need it for my usb2 cam. |
| 15:55.30 | VoodooZ|meeting | bbl |
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| 15:58.36 | chouimat | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 15:59.35 | DataBeaver | What would be the best way to get all OpenEmbedded kernel patches and default configuration? |
| 16:00.33 | DataBeaver | Do I have to get them from monotone or is there a nice tarball somewhere? |
| 16:04.06 | Genesis | why not wget http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux |
| 16:04.31 | Genesis | ( with recursive option ) |
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| 16:09.10 | DataBeaver | Thanks, looks good |
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| 16:09.28 | koen | monotone would be the best way |
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| 16:11.19 | Genesis | lucky boy |
| 16:11.22 | Genesis | + valLongfield |
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| 16:16.46 | hrw|work | cu |
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| 16:34.36 | Genesis | is there a tip to launch `make menuconfig` ( for kernel or busybox ) with the OE env without export by hand some var ? |
| 16:37.41 | koen | via devshell? |
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| 16:40.16 | Genesis | i check that koen thx |
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| 16:44.13 | koen | likewise: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/index.php?path=ixp4xx/ |
| 16:45.59 | likewise | koen: ack |
| 16:46.45 | cbrake | Gerrath: there is some info in the Faq about OE build shells: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OeFaq#debuggingoebuilds |
| 16:47.08 | cbrake | Genesis: oops, the above line was intended for you. |
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| 16:50.15 | Genesis | thx cbrake :) |
| 17:00.10 | likewise | koen: kernel ipkg'd: I am having a hard time using ipkg-native to extract the kernel... (ipkg noob) |
| 17:00.31 | koen | likewise: 'ar x foo.ipk ; tar zxf data.tar.gz' |
| 17:00.36 | koen | likewise: or use dpkg-deb |
| 17:01.33 | koen | a .ipk should be compatible with a .deb |
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| 17:08.37 | likewise | koen: grr, localhost atftpd[5021]: Requested file to big, increase BLKSIZE :-/ |
| 17:12.21 | raduga | hya |
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| 17:13.15 | raduga | anyone here run qemu on arm host? |
| 17:14.43 | mmp | hello; it is possible that 'file' 'file-native' (both 4.16) bbfiles in org.oe.dev are out of date - the ftp host from which are sources being downloaded contains just versions 4.17 and 4.18. |
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| 17:15.57 | raduga | quite possibly, mmp. |
| 17:16.08 | raduga | this would be a good candidate to report on the bugtracker |
| 17:16.19 | likewise | koen: will test tomorrow. |
| 17:16.22 | likewise | cu |
| 17:18.37 | mmp | raduga: I've been lazy to do that :) In few minutes. |
| 17:19.03 | raduga | mmp: thank you. I spotted the same issue a few days ago, but have been lazy too. |
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| 17:19.40 | mmp | raduga: :-))) |
| 17:20.53 | raduga | mmp: iirc, just changing the .bb to 4.18 should build fine. |
| 17:21.14 | raduga | file isn't brain-surgery code ;) |
| 17:22.03 | RP | morning all |
| 17:22.08 | raduga | good morning RP |
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| 17:22.49 | raduga | rp: is there a difference in the CPU that zaurus 3100 and 3200 use? |
| 17:23.06 | koen | raduga: actually, upgrading 'file' is like brain surgery |
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| 17:23.16 | Genesis | bitbake devshell seems to produice nothing |
| 17:23.18 | raduga | i had understood they were both stock pxa270, but people in the OESF forum have reported they're different |
| 17:23.33 | mmp | raduga: yes, I actually solved it by adding it to ASSUME_PROVIDED (i just need file-native at the moment) |
| 17:23.47 | koen | raduga: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and compare the outputs |
| 17:24.06 | raduga | koen: i don't actually have either. |
| 17:24.19 | raduga | koen: but i would look to see, if I did |
| 17:27.00 | raduga | hm. its *reputed* in forums at least, that the 3200 has a different CPU. does anyone know if this is accurate? |
| 17:27.55 | lrg | raduga: afaik they are both pxa27x, although they may be different pxa27x silicon revisions |
| 17:28.11 | raduga | lrg: thanks |
| 17:28.48 | raduga | lrg: that agrees with iirc. |
| 17:31.00 | XorA|gone | raduga: does difference show up in /proc/cpuinfo |
| 17:31.56 | raduga | xora: i don't have a 3100 or a 3200, so I can't verify. |
| 17:32.18 | raduga | xora: if you have either, and can report what you see, that would be nice :) |
| 17:34.09 | RP | raduga: Its the same cpu as far as I know |
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| 17:35.21 | ade|desk | ~lart debian for killing apache2.2 because of libapache2-mod-php4 |
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| 17:37.52 | XorA|gone | raduga: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/CGlL4745.html |
| 17:38.01 | XorA|gone | raduga: thats a 3200 |
| 17:41.08 | Genesis | does someone use devshell ? i've no script created when i bitbake the recipe |
| 17:41.45 | Genesis | if i beleive the bb file , i should be in ${DEPLOY_DIR}/addons/ |
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| 17:44.26 | RP | Genesis: The devshell task might also be useful to you... |
| 17:44.37 | raduga | xora: identical to mine, except Professor: rev 4 |
| 17:44.40 | RP | (it needs bitbake 1.6.1) |
| 17:44.42 | raduga | Processor :/ |
| 17:44.52 | raduga | (and Hardware: SHARP Akita) |
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| 17:45.11 | raduga | xora: possibly 3100 has a different revision. |
| 17:45.18 | raduga | xora: thanks :) |
| 17:45.40 | Genesis | RP, : i read somewhere i should use it like bitbake -c devshell target , but that failed too |
| 17:45.49 | RP | raduga: C3000 is also revision 4 |
| 17:45.59 | RP | Genesis: did you use bitbake 1.6.1? |
| 17:46.01 | Genesis | RP, : perharps it could be useful , but if it doesnt work or documented .. |
| 17:46.04 | Genesis | RP, : yeap |
| 17:46.18 | RP | Genesis: It should work... |
| 17:46.34 | Genesis | i past you |
| 17:46.42 | RP | Genesis: Did you inherit devshell? |
| 17:46.59 | Genesis | http://code.bulix.org/gh2z5u-22753 |
| 17:47.25 | raduga | its reported that the newer revs don't overclock well, but that's the only significant thing I've heard |
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| 17:48.20 | Genesis | i quote koen ;) <koen> stefan_schmidt: 'bitbake devshell' will produce a shell script that sets up the vars to use the OE toolchain 'stand alone' |
| 17:48.45 | RP | Genesis: We have two things that are called devshell |
| 17:48.49 | Genesis | RP, : no i just try to use it like i look on my searsh |
| 17:49.09 | Genesis | what i would like is to produice the well env script |
| 17:49.15 | Genesis | the bitbake devshell |
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| 17:49.52 | RP | Genesis: Add INHERIT += "devshell" to your local.conf to get -c devshell working |
| 17:49.58 | Genesis | ho oki |
| 17:50.10 | RP | Genesis: but the script is something different |
| 17:50.19 | RP | similar but different :) |
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| 17:50.58 | Genesis | RP, : i just want the script |
| 17:51.03 | Genesis | and it doesnt work :) |
| 17:51.30 | hvontres|poodle | Genesis: did you try bitbake devshell ? |
| 17:53.54 | Genesis | sure lol |
| 17:54.01 | Genesis | like i said |
| 17:54.04 | Genesis | that create nothing |
| 17:54.19 | Genesis | <Genesis> does someone use devshell ? i've no script created when i bitbake the recipe |
| 17:54.20 | Genesis | <Genesis> if i beleive the bb file , i should be in ${DEPLOY_DIR}/addons/ |
| 17:56.03 | Genesis | the log in workdir are empty |
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| 17:57.25 | Genesis | bonsoir cyrilRomain :) |
| 17:57.51 | Genesis | hvontres|poodle, : does it work for you ? |
| 17:58.34 | XorA|gone | devshell broken here as well |
| 17:58.46 | Genesis | ouf i'm not crazy |
| 17:58.47 | koen | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html |
| 17:58.53 | hvontres|poodle | Genesis : I was able to create the shell script. I haven't actually used it. |
| 17:59.32 | hvontres|poodle | Genesis...I think I was building it out of the .354x branch...so it may have been busted in .dev... |
| 17:59.55 | koen | http://linuxdevices.com/files/article072/sld002.html |
| 18:00.28 | koen | "The Neo1973 will also ship with an "apt-get-like" software manager (pictured at right) that makes it trivial to add, remove, and update applications packaged in the OpenEmbedded package format, including "literally thousands of existing open source applications from the OpenZaurus, Familiar Linux, and Angstrom projects," according to Michael Lauer, founder of OpenEmbedded and an early OpenMoko developer. " |
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| 18:01.52 | cyrilRomain | hi all |
| 18:01.59 | cyrilRomain | hi Genesis |
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| 18:03.03 | Genesis | 9H - 19H , i fed up , back to home |
| 18:03.09 | Genesis | a+ |
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| 18:07.31 | XorA|gone | koen: cool |
| 18:07.36 | XorA|gone | Moko though????? |
| 18:08.01 | koen | Kommunication is Kool |
| 18:08.12 | hvontres|poodle | koen: is this mickey's big project? |
| 18:08.18 | koen | hvontres|poodle: yes |
| 18:08.50 | XorA|gone | I see those extra K's creaping in again :-) |
| 18:09.11 | hvontres|poodle | hmmm...I wonder the sample address for sean... thats just a few Km from my house :) |
| 18:09.21 | NAiL | sigh... why is it apparently impossible to get a usb adsl modem in scandinavia? |
| 18:11.26 | XorA|gone | NAiL: they hand them out like smarties in the UK |
| 18:12.09 | NAiL | XorA|gone: any way to aquire one from UK then? |
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| 18:13.22 | XorA|gone | NAiL: we get them free when we sign up with ISP |
| 18:13.28 | XorA|gone | NAiL: try uk ebay |
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| 18:23.43 | koen | samsung is on crack |
| 18:23.44 | koen | http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/MobileSoC/ApplicationProcessor/ARM9Series/S3C2410/S3C2410.htm |
| 18:23.53 | koen | "ARM926EJ-S CPU Core" |
| 18:23.56 | koen | don't think so |
| 18:24.16 | koen | I think they mean arm920T |
| 18:25.37 | XorA|gone | 2410 sucks for audio :-( |
| 18:25.56 | koen | "The Neo1973 is based on a Samsung 2490-series SoC" |
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| 18:26.16 | koen | the 2490 doesn't seem to exist |
| 18:26.25 | koen | I know of 2410, 2440 and 24a0 |
| 18:26.34 | XorA|gone | 2412 and 2413 |
| 18:26.40 | XorA|gone | and 21442 |
| 18:26.43 | XorA|gone | 2442 |
| 18:28.00 | raduga | koen: maybe some internal design that never got released? |
| 18:28.10 | koen | doubtfull |
| 18:28.25 | koen | if FIC is going to ship 100k phones/month |
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| 18:37.23 | zecke | mickey|AMS|zzZZz: hey? |
| 18:38.34 | koen | zecke: http://svnweb.gta01.hmw-consulting.de/ + http://linuxdevices.com/files/article072/sld002.html |
| 18:40.33 | zecke | koen: is that meant to be open already? |
| 18:40.55 | koen | zecke: it's on the internet, so I think 'yes' |
| 18:41.18 | koen | "openmoko, let's visit openmoko.org" |
| 18:41.37 | zecke | koen: hehe, lets add it to our Bonsai |
| 18:41.52 | koen | svn: Can't connect to host 'svn.gta01.hmw-consulting.de': Operation timed out |
| 18:42.14 | zecke | use http as protocol? |
| 18:42.46 | koen | hmm |
| 18:42.50 | koen | password |
| 18:42.50 | zecke | oh and BB files :) |
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| 18:43.49 | zecke | hmm so it is not public :) |
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| 18:46.56 | koen | heh |
| 18:47.13 | koen | everything is autotooled, except the stuff mickeyl handled :) |
| 18:47.28 | hvontres|poodle | hmmm looks like they use a sharp lcd : http://svnweb.gta01.hmw-consulting.de/*checkout*/developers/gordon/tec_specs_LQ080V3DG01.pdf?rev=16 |
| 18:47.33 | zecke | later :) |
| 18:47.38 | zecke | going home |
| 18:47.46 | koen | hvontres|poodle: 280 DPI :) |
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| 18:50.43 | florian | re |
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| 19:26.09 | sirfred | Helo |
| 19:27.29 | koen | hey sirfred |
| 19:33.26 | Laibsch | what happened to the libqte-mt2 package? Where did it go and what package superseded it? |
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| 19:36.47 | hvontres|poodle | koen: I think I know where mickey is at right now: http://www.openmoko.com/files/OpenMoko_Amsterdam.pdf (esp. the last page) :) |
| 19:36.48 | koen | I hope fix makes a grey/black unit |
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| 19:37.04 | GStepper | hi all |
| 19:37.20 | zecke | mickey|AMS|zzZZz: I want a OpenMoko shirt :) |
| 19:37.49 | koen | mickey|AMS|zzZZz: and I want one too! |
| 19:38.13 | zecke | did someone call mickeyl yet? |
| 19:38.19 | zecke | I think I will bother him :) |
| 19:39.04 | koen | zecke: I was thinking of sending him the address of a shop where he can buy leffe :) |
| 19:39.48 | zecke | koen: paste it here |
| 19:40.26 | lrg | only 4 months until more leffe ;) |
| 19:41.06 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.51 | lrg | zecke: me neither ;) |
| 19:42.08 | zecke | hehe |
| 19:42.21 | koen | zecke: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=nl&saddr=Stadhouderskade+12,+amsterdam,+the+netherlands&daddr=Van+Woustraat+125,+amsterdam,+the+netherlands&ie=UTF8&z=15&t=h&om=1 |
| 19:42.30 | koen | Gall & Gall should have leffe |
| 19:44.06 | hvontres|poodle | "Open Bar. |
| 19:44.07 | hvontres|poodle | We.re at the American Hotel over the bridge." |
| 19:44.23 | zecke | koen: he didn't answer |
| 19:45.20 | florian | +h |
| 19:45.51 | zecke | hehe |
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| 19:47.32 | cyrilRomain | ~seen do13 |
| 19:47.57 | ibot | do13 is currently on #oe, last said: 'hi Richard'. |
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| 19:57.18 | zecke | koen: hopefully they will fund Gtk+ WebKit stuff instead of going the minimoz way |
| 19:57.56 | zecke | koen: oh OpenMoku can do Email Push |
| 19:58.01 | koen | zecke: have you read dobey's post? |
| 19:58.18 | koen | zecke: http://wayofthemonkey.com/?date=2006-11-07 |
| 19:58.18 | zecke | no |
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| 19:58.49 | NAiL | Anyone got an idea how to build an initramfs in OE? |
| 19:59.27 | NAiL | ie, build an uclibc initramfs while building glibc slugos? |
| 19:59.30 | koen | NAiL: mreimer said he built them with OE |
| 19:59.55 | koen | NAiL: be carefull with mixing uclibc and glibc stuff |
| 20:00.15 | koen | NAiL: look at the angstrom configs on how to keep them seperated :) |
| 20:00.20 | NAiL | koen: the initramfs will kexec a new kernel |
| 20:01.34 | NAiL | who's mreimer btw? |
| 20:01.50 | koen | matthew reimer, of ipaq h2200 kernel fame |
| 20:02.18 | hrw|gone | http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7467 |
| 20:06.37 | koen | "format UTF unicode" |
| 20:06.46 | koen | wierd subject for a spam message |
| 20:10.21 | RP | They pull phrases from random places on the net until the spam passes the test spam filters... |
| 20:10.59 | koen | I had "arm assembly" as well a while back |
| 20:12.06 | hrw | I have one printed on wall at work |
| 20:12.19 | hrw | many 'php flash websites html' like words |
| 20:12.32 | hrw | kind of webdevelopers lorem ipsum |
| 20:13.03 | NAiL | I got a gcc spam :-P |
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| 20:35.43 | Genesis | bonsoir / hello |
| 20:36.06 | koen | hey Genesis |
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| 20:38.18 | GStepper | bonsoir / hello Genesis |
| 20:39.11 | Genesis | another f/cking french lol |
| 20:39.11 | koen | florian: http://trac.webkit.org/projects/webkit/browser/trunk/WebCore/platform/gdk |
| 20:39.36 | zecke | koen: this is done by the DirectFB guy right? |
| 20:39.46 | koen | zecke: no idea |
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| 20:43.02 | _law_ | hi |
| 20:43.15 | koen | hey _law_ |
| 20:43.22 | _law_ | is anyone her who has linux running on his palm? |
| 20:43.25 | hrw | hi _law_ |
| 20:43.54 | GStepper | Genesis: Yes /Oui :p |
| 20:45.02 | zecke | http://svnweb.gta01.hmw-consulting.de/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/examples/openmoko-finger-demo/ <- lol .svnignore |
| 20:45.45 | koen | zecke: is your svnweb parser for bonsai done yet? |
| 20:46.52 | zecke | koen: not yet, I will wait for them to publish it :) |
| 20:48.04 | florian | koen: oh, cool |
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| 20:50.50 | goxboxlive | florian: We have managed to get the phone working on the Universal. Now grab your device and start hacking :-) |
| 20:52.00 | zecke | goxboxlive: wirte a device_wavecom.c for harald's GSM lib :) |
| 20:52.12 | hrw | goxboxlive: but you does not have openmoko on it |
| 20:52.26 | zecke | vendor_wavecom.c sorry |
| 20:52.43 | goxboxlive | zecke: :) |
| 20:53.15 | florian | zecke, goxboxlive: ok, good - if you get me that library working with the universal i will work on the ui :-) |
| 20:53.47 | zecke | koen: Wow gsmshell |
| 20:53.55 | zecke | koen: that is a tool, answer calls from the shell |
| 20:54.02 | zecke | koen: send SMS from the shell |
| 20:54.21 | koen | cool |
| 20:54.38 | zecke | koen: http://svnweb.gta01.hmw-consulting.de/trunk/src/target/gsm/src/util/shell.c?rev=115&view=markup |
| 20:54.40 | koen | now I can send sms messages with my position to a sms gateway |
| 20:54.50 | Genesis | wengophone on OE could be cool also |
| 20:55.09 | Genesis | wengo company sells cheap sms service |
| 20:55.27 | Genesis | and work we the opensource communauty |
| 20:55.32 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.41 | koen | Genesis: are you attending fosdem next year? |
| 20:55.52 | Genesis | i see they were there |
| 20:56.01 | Genesis | but no more |
| 20:56.10 | Genesis | s/no/not |
| 20:57.02 | Genesis | what is your position ? |
| 20:57.22 | goxboxlive | hrw: what is openmoko |
| 20:57.39 | Genesis | i think it's the open source stack for mobile phone |
| 20:57.41 | koen | Genesis: 52.235654 6.848464 |
| 20:57.45 | Genesis | LOL |
| 20:58.01 | Genesis | about gps , i work on world wide at this time :) |
| 20:58.02 | koen | goxboxlive: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS2986976174.html |
| 20:58.31 | Genesis | how is java in OE ? i see that there is a little java VM |
| 20:58.41 | koen | one vm? |
| 20:58.44 | zecke | goxboxlive: It is the First Freely available Phone Stack |
| 20:58.51 | koen | we have sablevm, jamvm, gcj-x, kaffe, etc |
| 20:58.53 | Genesis | virtual machina ;) |
| 20:58.58 | zecke | Genesis: it is stored in bitbake files |
| 20:59.02 | koen | zecke: but not award-winning |
| 20:59.02 | zecke | Genesis: like everything "in OE" |
| 20:59.08 | Genesis | yep i saw jamvm |
| 20:59.15 | zecke | koen: It wins the Zecke OE Community Award |
| 20:59.26 | koen | zecke: and I though 'open' meant 'only source for companies' |
| 20:59.28 | zecke | Genesis: I'm a happy gcj user on ARM (without GUI though) |
| 20:59.32 | koen | like qtopia |
| 20:59.45 | Genesis | zecke : no doubt of that, i was just thinking my software require JDK 1.5 |
| 21:00.00 | zecke | Genesis: GCJ 4.1 and 4.1 >> 1.5 |
| 21:00.05 | Genesis | zecke : ww2d.org , if you want to try |
| 21:00.40 | Genesis | i'll try later if not |
| 21:00.40 | zecke | Genesis: do you really use Generics? |
| 21:00.40 | zecke | or annotations? |
| 21:00.52 | Genesis | i don't know , in fact , i help to port a windows WMS proxy on linux |
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| 21:01.01 | Genesis | and it's written in ruby/C++ |
| 21:01.08 | zecke | ah :) |
| 21:01.23 | zecke | Genesis: a friend of mine ran gcj/Free Swing on his simpad |
| 21:02.24 | Genesis | in fact , the proxy the man wrote permit NASA WW user to use Geoportail & GoogleEarth data |
| 21:02.32 | Genesis | http://thepochisuperstarmegashow.com/ |
| 21:02.41 | Genesis | if someone is interessting :) |
| 21:03.17 | zecke | Genesis: I lack GPS so I sadly don't see the value :( |
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| 21:03.27 | Genesis | zecke : me too lol |
| 21:03.35 | Genesis | i just do that for the trip |
| 21:03.51 | Genesis | i saw some RS232 cheap GPS linux compatible on ebay |
| 21:04.02 | Genesis | 50$ for 2 kits if i remember |
| 21:04.19 | Genesis | i'll bye them if i've a full opensource running application i can script |
| 21:05.16 | koen | looks nice |
| 21:05.38 | cyrilRomain | Genesis: thanks for this great link :) |
| 21:05.43 | gremlin[it] | hi psokolovsky_ |
| 21:05.55 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 21:05.57 | Genesis | cyrilRomain : are you ruby coder ? i need one for 5 minutes |
| 21:06.06 | Genesis | i'm more python guy |
| 21:06.07 | cyrilRomain | Genesis: no sorry :-/ |
| 21:06.11 | cyrilRomain | me too |
| 21:06.16 | Genesis | of course lol |
| 21:06.25 | koen | hey psokolovsky_ |
| 21:06.31 | Genesis | yo psokolovsky_ |
| 21:06.41 | hrw | cyrilRomain: about your question "shouldn't linux-openzaurus-2.6.18+git be renamed to linux-openzaurus-2.6.19+git ?" - 2.6.19 is not released yet |
| 21:07.18 | hrw | cyrilRomain: when it will then we will rename it |
| 21:07.20 | Genesis | cyrilRomain runs anticipatory scheduler |
| 21:07.24 | cyrilRomain | hrw: ok thanks :) |
| 21:07.37 | cyrilRomain | by the way, any kernel hacker here ? |
| 21:07.50 | hrw | cyrilRomain: define it |
| 21:07.52 | cyrilRomain | I tried to ping do13 but it seems bery busy |
| 21:08.05 | hrw | 2.6.18 for tosa you want? |
| 21:08.09 | cyrilRomain | hrw or RP ;) ? |
| 21:08.39 | cyrilRomain | hrw: I update the patches so that patch succedd with the git version |
| 21:08.53 | cyrilRomain | but I have some compilation issue due to nand.h changes |
| 21:09.14 | hrw | cyrilRomain: then why you did not submitted updated patches? |
| 21:09.16 | RP | cyrilRomain: I think Dirk was avoding that issue as it could be painful :-/ |
| 21:09.35 | cyrilRomain | I sent a mail to warn do13 about my work |
| 21:10.03 | raduga | is there any fix for bug 1371 (dbus build breaking?) |
| 21:10.09 | cyrilRomain | I sent to him the updated patches last night, and I'm still going further |
| 21:10.33 | cyrilRomain | but if I can update patch, I'm less able to hack into the kernel :-/ |
| 21:11.45 | hrw | time to build 2.6.10 |
| 21:12.04 | cyrilRomain | RP, hrw: I'm now stuck here http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/r86wAy79.html |
| 21:12.06 | koen | raduga: no problems here building for angstrom |
| 21:12.46 | hrw | cyrilRomain: need to update to recent mtd |
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| 21:13.05 | RP | cyrilRomain: Right. Mainline rewrote the nand drivers a bit. You need to fix the nand driver... |
| 21:13.05 | hrw | tmio.c is our code or mainline? |
| 21:13.11 | RP | ours |
| 21:13.28 | raduga | koen: OZ builds break, apparently a problem with headers |
| 21:13.52 | hrw | raduga: we definitelly need versioned DEPENDS |
| 21:13.54 | raduga | (bug was reported in august, but still appears to be there) |
| 21:14.02 | raduga | hrw: *nod* |
| 21:14.47 | raduga | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1371 |
| 21:14.59 | hrw | raduga: oz-unstable/.dev? |
| 21:15.06 | raduga | yep. |
| 21:15.10 | cyrilRomain | hrw, RP: I'll try to understand and update to recent mtd. But if you have some time your help would be very welcome :) |
| 21:15.27 | hrw | cyrilRomain: I'm overloaded with own bugs now |
| 21:15.36 | hrw | tetex on one machine, sound on another |
| 21:15.38 | cyrilRomain | hrw: ok no pb |
| 21:16.22 | raduga | hrw: thanks for de-bugging :):) |
| 21:17.13 | raduga | (meaning, thanks for looking at tetex, sound, etc) |
| 21:17.18 | RP | I'm open for comments on http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/oe_site_reorg-r0.patch |
| 21:17.21 | hrw | raduga: all I can do now is start 'bitbake dbus' for my umbaumba |
| 21:17.50 | koen | RP: mail it to the list :) |
| 21:18.25 | RP | koen: I was just wondering if anyone here wanted to experiment first :) |
| 21:18.35 | raduga | hrw: thanks, if you do. thanks even if you don't :) |
| 21:18.49 | koen | RP: testing is overrated ;) |
| 21:19.55 | hrw | 2.6.10 with config from 2.6.19-rc4 makes 'make oldconfig' funny |
| 21:20.58 | Crofton | hrw, you see the guy from Thailand had trouble booting his OSK with the kernel from OE? |
| 21:24.33 | hrw | Crofton: saw |
| 21:25.04 | hrw | shit. 2.6.10 does not build for amd64 |
| 21:25.46 | Laibsch | what happened to the libqte-mt2 package? Where did it go and what package superseded it? |
| 21:26.02 | hrw | Laibsch: you mean qte-mt_2.3.10.bb? |
| 21:26.05 | CIA-4 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r933fe37d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): unslung-kernel: Added bridge modules |
| 21:27.24 | Crofton | I emailed him, still not sure what his issue is |
| 21:27.35 | Laibsch | hrw: I am not sure what bb file it came from. nunome depends on that package. Trying to figure out what happened (and how to fix it) |
| 21:27.38 | hrw | Crofton: wrong start point? |
| 21:27.41 | Crofton | have you heard of any success stories building for OSK, other than me? |
| 21:27.53 | hrw | Laibsch: it should depend on qte-mt |
| 21:27.54 | Crofton | he used openomap and ompa5912osk |
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| 21:28.10 | hrw | Crofton: not yet |
| 21:28.20 | Crofton | ok, let me know if you do |
| 21:28.24 | hrw | will do |
| 21:28.34 | Laibsch | hrw: in the bb file or via its inheritance of opie? |
| 21:28.37 | Crofton | he is like 12 hours out of phase with me I think :) |
| 21:28.40 | hrw | ~lart 200K/s on ewi |
| 21:28.45 | RP | koen: mailed |
| 21:29.01 | hrw | Laibsch: if it inherit opie then it does not need to depend on qte |
| 21:29.04 | hrw | itself |
| 21:29.25 | RP | cyrilRomain: How many of the other tosa patches had issues? |
| 21:30.05 | cyrilRomain | RP: let me check ... |
| 21:30.24 | hrw | raduga: look: |
| 21:30.30 | hrw | NOTE: package dbus-native-0.94: completed |
| 21:30.31 | hrw | NOTE: package dbus-glib-native-0.72: started |
| 21:30.58 | RP | FWIW, dbus-glib-native-0.71/0.72 worked for me recently... |
| 21:31.31 | cyrilRomain | RP: 9 files, but that required easy fixing |
| 21:31.56 | Laibsch | hrw: well, I think nunome indirectly depends on libqte-mt2 now. I only know that I cannot install it because dependencies for libqpe1 (>= 1.2.2) libqte-mt2 (>= 2.3.10) cannot be satisfied. Building nunome with -c rebuild also fails. Maybe I need to recompile some other package? |
| 21:33.56 | hrw | NOTE: package dbus-glib-native-0.72: completed |
| 21:34.13 | hrw | Laibsch: is it in oe? |
| 21:34.18 | Laibsch | yes |
| 21:34.27 | Laibsch | just "bitbake nunome" |
| 21:34.50 | raduga | hrw: thanks :) |
| 21:35.22 | hrw | raduga: DISTRO = "umbaumba-17.3" |
| 21:35.23 | raduga | btw, it seems dbus-glib-0.71 succeeded for me, where dbus-glib-0.72 failed |
| 21:35.49 | hrw | raduga: it depends which ver of dbus/dbus-glib is used |
| 21:36.38 | raduga | hrw: i think i (should) have enough information to find out where the problem was, hopefully submit a patch |
| 21:37.00 | hrw | Laibsch: /home/hrw/devel/sources/dl_dir/unismall-1.0.0.tar.gz: HTML document text |
| 21:37.18 | raduga | ~lart raduga if he fails to find the problem, fix it, and submit a patch |
| 21:37.48 | hrw | Laibsch: nunome here has common problem - rtti/no-rtti.. |
| 21:37.54 | hrw | | /home/hrw/devel/build/umbaumba/tmp/staging/arm-linux/qt2/lib/libqte-mt.so: undefined reference to `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info' |
| 21:40.20 | hrw | fsck. |
| 21:41.21 | zecke | RP: ping |
| 21:41.29 | RP | zecke: pong |
| 21:41.31 | hrw | ~lart me or 2.6.10 for being unbuildable here or on ewi |
| 21:41.53 | zecke | RP: do you feel like extracting all the autoconf test we have results for? |
| 21:42.25 | hrw | cu |
| 21:42.26 | RP | zecke: Extracting them from where? |
| 21:42.35 | zecke | RP: from the original m4 files :} |
| 21:42.52 | RP | Ah, the actual tests... |
| 21:43.10 | zecke | RP: extracting the tests, so one could easily run them for a new architecture :} |
| 21:43.14 | RP | zecke: it would be a good thing to do... |
| 21:43.16 | koen | m4 macros make my eyes bleed |
| 21:43.24 | zecke | I'm sorry to ask you for such a monkey job |
| 21:43.37 | RP | zecke: Why me? :) |
| 21:43.47 | Laibsch | hrw|gone: easy to fix? |
| 21:44.08 | zecke | RP: ask irssi's tab completion. no i just got your site conf mail :) |
| 21:44.25 | zecke | Laibsch: that depends |
| 21:44.55 | RP | zecke: I'm happy enough to push the site cleanup forward. Actually extracting the tests might be a bit beyond my time constraints... |
| 21:45.20 | zecke | RP: at least we should make it policy to add the actual phones |
| 21:45.47 | koen | phones? |
| 21:46.16 | zecke | *confused* :} |
| 21:46.27 | zecke | too much good news today |
| 21:46.37 | zecke | Freudsche Versprecher :) |
| 21:47.00 | RP | zecke: We should start a script. If we have a script, I would endevour to add tests to it... |
| 21:48.56 | koen | and make the test harnass update it where appropriate :) |
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| 22:27.06 | lamikr | koen: Do you know has somebody managed to use OE for building with the intel based MACS? One developer has currently only access to macs. |
| 22:27.29 | koen | zecke has |
| 22:27.39 | koen | and I had a toolchain for my ppc mac |
| 22:31.09 | lamikr | koen: And it manages to build working toolchain? |
| 22:31.35 | koen | yes |
| 22:31.57 | koen | lamikr: http://www.openembedded.org/search/node/osx |
| 22:31.59 | lamikr | nice. I will ask husam to ask details. He has some problems to get glibc to build. |
| 22:33.01 | koen | you do need a case sensitive filesystem |
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| 22:35.08 | zecke | lamikr: there is one OSX glibc patch |
| 22:35.22 | zecke | lamikr: but as Mr. Drepper says "glibc needs a sane environment, OSX does not qualify" |
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| 22:37.02 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 22:43.09 | lamikr | koen: Well, I do not have Mac myself. But I figured out with husam that he needs a case sensitive fs. |
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| 22:43.52 | lamikr | Husam: Did you convert the macs' boot partition or have you tried to use oe with external hd from mac? |
| 22:44.22 | lamikr | zecke: Can you point the osx patch for husam and get him started? |
| 22:44.52 | husam | I'm using external drive |
| 22:46.06 | zecke | husam: one glibc version has this patch included |
| 22:47.05 | husam | which version .... I tried to compile crosstool and I had internal error |
| 22:47.40 | husam | also I tried to use arm-elf-gcc .... but some header files where missing |
| 22:48.24 | zecke | husam: ah you might have a different error, but let me find the patch I used to use |
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| 22:48.51 | husam | zecke: thanks ...... |
| 22:50.45 | zecke | husam: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc/glibc-2.4/zecke-sane-readelf.patch |
| 22:51.12 | zecke | husam: the actual glibc error was the "gcc lacks support for .init*" |
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| 22:52.04 | husam | ok ... which version of gcc and and binutils you used |
| 22:52.34 | zecke | husam: I think I tried to build angstrom |
| 22:52.58 | zecke | husam: but currently I'm doing all my builds in a parallels vm |
| 22:53.28 | lamikr | zecke: Does it allow running linux inside mac? |
| 22:53.32 | husam | I see |
| 22:53.54 | husam | yes it does ... it's like vmware |
| 22:54.31 | lamikr | How about usb network connection, would that be possible? |
| 22:54.40 | husam | yes ... |
| 22:54.42 | zecke | lamikr: yes |
| 22:54.51 | zecke | lamikr: I went even as far as doing serial over usb to flash devices |
| 22:55.28 | zecke | lamikr: only transfering full MPEG2 Transport Streams (12mbit) was not possible :) |
| 22:55.41 | lamikr | zecke: Nice.So, here we go, husam is frozened from the mac curse :-) |
| 22:57.21 | husam | I like the machine ..... and the OS .... I just need to learn few tricks |
| 22:57.54 | zecke | mac are great (at least I like my black macbook...) |
| 22:58.05 | lamikr | koen: I made today the angstrom build and noticed some small issues with missing packages/wrong urls. |
| 22:58.57 | lamikr | 1) file.bb: version 1.1.6 has disappeared from servers. I changed the bb name to 1.1.8 version and it worked ok without need to change patches. |
| 22:59.37 | lamikr | 2) setserial. I needed to change the url. (for example to some familiar version source code dir) |
| 23:01.41 | lamikr | 3) apm had build problems, because EINVAL was not defined. The problem turned out to happen because following were used while building: "-I /usr/src/linux/include" |
| 23:02.05 | husam | Zecke: I agree I haven't seen anything I didn't like so far |
| 23:02.10 | lamikr | It seems that EINVAL is not specified in the kernel header version of errno.h |
| 23:02.50 | husam | So i need to make changes to those files |
| 23:03.37 | lamikr | husam: So are you trying to install this parallers vm? |
| 23:04.12 | husam | I have installed it ... |
| 23:04.43 | zecke | florian: How can I force a geometry on a GtkWindow? |
| 23:04.50 | lamikr | husam: Now you have change to switch suse to something else than novel made a deal with evil empire. |
| 23:05.23 | zecke | florian: ah gtk_window_move |
| 23:05.33 | husam | did they!!!!! .. |
| 23:06.11 | husam | lamikr: is angstrom package !!!!!! |
| 23:06.22 | lamikr | yes, at least somekind common advertizing & patent issue. |
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| 23:07.25 | lamikr | husam: angstrom is distro, you can get it from the openhandhelds.org monotone. It uses eabi based gcc which have now been able to get working for us. |
| 23:08.26 | lamikr | husam: But build also the familiar because non-eabi gcc binaries (in familiar) and eabi gcc binaries are incompatible with each others. |
| 23:09.01 | lamikr | husam: Some info from eabi. http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort |
| 23:11.00 | florian | zecke: yep, and gtk_window_set_default_size |
| 23:11.24 | florian | what the heck is going on here...? |
| 23:11.53 | florian | zecke: why everyone here is using gtk? ;) |
| 23:12.44 | zecke | florian: I need a HTML widget not spawning 30 damons |
| 23:13.30 | florian | zecke: ok, i get the point :) |
| 23:13.52 | zecke | currently I uglify gpe-mini-browser |
| 23:16.29 | zecke | BTW: is js working in gpe-minibrowseR? |
| 23:17.50 | florian | i think so |
| 23:18.01 | lamikr | zecke:Atleast it builds some jscript those components. |
| 23:19.12 | lamikr | I was using today dillo again and get loved to it's way for forcing the pages always to fit to screen width. I have scrolling left and right when reading. |
| 23:19.47 | lamikr | unfortunately dillo does not have jscipt support. |
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| 23:30.34 | florian | true.. i missed that feature too. |
| 23:30.58 | Genesis | i put firefox , but it'a huge software :) |
| 23:31.25 | cyrilRomain | RP: well updating tmio.c is not so trivial (at least to do it correctly). I'm going to send the updated patches to Dirk (I incremented the version on modification). So you want to be in CC ? |
| 23:31.39 | RP | cyrilRomain: I think I might have something for you |
| 23:31.54 | cyrilRomain | RP: ah .. |
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| 23:34.33 | RP | cyrilRomain: I'll try one more build, then I should be able to commit something |
| 23:35.59 | cyrilRomain | RP: ok, I'm keeping my closing eyes open :) |
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| 23:44.42 | RP | cyrilRomain: Untested and there are several compiler warnings that really need fixing in that... |
| 23:46.23 | zecke | any ruby expert around? |
| 23:46.40 | zecke | aynthing similiar to 'sys.argv' from python |
| 23:46.43 | florian | zecke: now you start to become scary ;) |
| 23:47.09 | zecke | florian: http://ruby-gnome2.sourceforge.jp/hiki.cgi?Gtk%3A%3AMozEmbed |
| 23:47.18 | zecke | florian: at least it doesn't spawn 30 processes |
| 23:47.27 | raduga | what are the summary images OE builds? |
| 23:47.56 | cyrilRomain | RP: thanks |
| 23:48.17 | zecke | ARGV is the answer |
| 23:48.21 | RP | cyrilRomain: Its a nasty merge and its entirely possible I got it wrong... |
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| 23:49.01 | raduga | e.g. bootstrap-image-akita-2006107094321.rootfs.img |
| 23:49.14 | raduga | and bootstrap-image-akita-2006107094321.rootfs.summary.img |
| 23:49.28 | RP | raduga: They have JFFS2 summary information in them. In theory they might boot faster |
| 23:49.42 | raduga | rp: ok. |
| 23:49.56 | raduga | rp: they wouldn't necessarily take up more space on install? |
| 23:50.05 | RP | raduga: google for jffs2 summary |
| 23:50.09 | raduga | thanks |
| 23:50.18 | RP | raduga: The summary information uses diskspace iirc |
| 23:50.31 | cyrilRomain | RP: no pb. I'll compare and merge with my patches, and send them to Dirk and you in cc |
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