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| 04:10.36 | VoodooZ | I just tried irssi for the first time and I actually like it. |
| 04:11.07 | VoodooZ | Does it support color though? the default was off maybe? |
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| 04:35.08 | VoodooZ | test |
| 04:46.25 | JustinP | VoodooZ: it's in color for me |
| 04:46.30 | JustinP | VoodooZ: chekc your term setting |
| 04:57.00 | VoodooZ | JustinP: Yes, I did a quick google and the documentation says how |
| 04:57.16 | VoodooZ | It even remembers it. |
| 04:57.37 | VoodooZ | I like the fact that it opens up a new "window" on each /join |
| 04:58.07 | VoodooZ | Any useful commands I should know? |
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| 05:49.48 | JustinP | VoodooZ: /ignore? ;-) |
| 05:50.11 | JustinP | VoodooZ: there are interesting and useful plugins as well, but I can't name any right now |
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| 05:54.44 | VoodooZ | sorry. Trying to figure out things. |
| 05:54.54 | VoodooZ | JustinP: does it auto away? |
| 05:55.36 | JustinP | VoodooZ: ummm....not that I know of.... |
| 05:56.02 | VoodooZ | ok. I'll read up tommorow. Got to go sleep. it's 2am. ouch. |
| 05:56.05 | VoodooZ | night |
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| 08:14.41 | koen | good morning all |
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| 08:24.56 | nicolasfr | hi koen |
| 08:28.21 | goxboxlive | good morning. I have been up since 0630, haveing my 5'th cup of coffee. |
| 08:29.42 | nicolasfr | goxboxlive: hehe! Still building an image for the htc universal? |
| 08:31.07 | goxboxlive | <nicolasfr> :-) I am allways building an image |
| 08:31.22 | goxboxlive | And they allways get build. Both Opie and gpe |
| 08:31.40 | nicolasfr | goxboxlive: are there any recent progress in the kernel? power management? |
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| 08:32.32 | goxboxlive | We have suspend/resume working now. But, the keyboard wouldnt work after resume. The power driver is not safe enough yet to use. |
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| 08:33.03 | goxboxlive | The big problem is that there are only one person that make the drivers, that's why it take so time. |
| 08:33.43 | nicolasfr | I hope the problems get fixed when I get mine ;) |
| 08:34.01 | goxboxlive | But the great news is that building images for the device now, is allmost right out of the box, just some small changes. |
| 08:34.38 | nicolasfr | that's good news. |
| 08:35.01 | goxboxlive | yes. When are you getting your device? |
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| 08:35.35 | cyrilRomain | morning all |
| 08:35.56 | nicolasfr | soon, my colleague waits for a new blackberry and then will give me his universal (he hates it because of all the hangs of WinCE, ...) |
| 08:36.05 | nicolasfr | cyrilRomain: hi |
| 08:36.40 | nicolasfr | goxboxlive: sometimes the phone will not pick up the calls, or the ring tone will not work so he misses lot's of calls!! |
| 08:38.29 | goxboxlive | Yes that's for me 2. I have swithced phone. Only using it as a "wallet" ( have a leather case for it) and as a pda, but as a phone i am using an old ericsson phone. |
| 08:38.59 | goxboxlive | Realy looking forward to have linux control the phone, then i will use it again. |
| 08:40.51 | nicolasfr | too bad the device doesn't have 128Mb of RAM... |
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| 08:45.16 | goxboxlive | yes |
| 08:46.01 | koen | 128? |
| 08:46.03 | koen | 1GB! |
| 08:46.21 | nicolasfr | koen: it would suck the battery! |
| 08:46.35 | nicolasfr | or 1Gb + 8000mAh battery |
| 08:47.41 | nicolasfr | koen: I was having troubles because of hostap-modules compiling failed with kernel 2.6.17. Found reason why here: http://lists.shmoo.com/pipermail/hostap/2006-July/013587.html |
| 08:47.57 | nicolasfr | Shouldn't hostap-modules be removed from task if using kernel 2.6? |
| 08:48.28 | koen | only if you use a kernel > 2.6.14 |
| 08:48.50 | koen | nicolasfr: could you talk to RP/hrw about that? |
| 08:49.02 | nicolasfr | no, just found the reason of the problem 5mins ago |
| 08:49.37 | nicolasfr | For the moment I have put a ASSUME_PROVIDED in my machine.conf (targeting my Tatung webpad) |
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| 08:54.41 | cyrilRomain | when parsing bitbake files (I updated this morning but have this error since 2 weeks or so), I get few 'ERROR: Exception:bb.MalformedUrl Message:${GPE_SVN}'. Should I change the 'GPE_SVN = "svn://projects.linuxtogo.org/svn/gpe/trunk/base;module=${PN}"' from conf/bitbake.conf ? |
| 09:02.38 | koen | the one in bitbake.conf works over here |
| 09:08.43 | cyrilRomain | hm... I use bitbake 1.6.1 from revision 620, you too ? |
| 09:11.06 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 09:11.27 | RP | morning all |
| 09:18.28 | nicolasfr | hi |
| 09:21.38 | hrw|gone | I have built the glibc3.5 co-exist with glibc4.1 but it does not work. |
| 09:21.44 | hrw | quote of day ;) |
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| 09:22.32 | RP | hrw: suggest gcc 2.3.5? :) |
| 09:22.35 | hrw | morning all |
| 09:22.53 | pH5 | good morning |
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| 09:23.49 | RP | hi hrw, pH5 |
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| 09:24.49 | nicolasfr | hrw: (Hi!) I was talking with koen about a problem with hostap-modules with kernel 2.16.17. Is there a way to make a rule so that hostap-modules is not built if kernel > 2.6.14 (use builtin kernel modules instead)? |
| 09:25.49 | hrw | good question |
| 09:26.25 | hrw | RP: any plans on getting access to PN/PV of other packages in recipe? |
| 09:27.57 | nicolasfr | workaround I found is using a ASSUME_PROVIDED+=hostap-modules in my machine/tatung.conf has it is tied with kernel 2.6.17/18, but I guess other packages might need such kind of rules |
| 09:28.04 | RP | hrw: No, I think its a really bad idea and most problems have another better solution |
| 09:29.28 | RP | hrw: For instance, hostap-modules should DEPENDS on virtual/kernel <= 2.6.14 |
| 09:30.32 | RP | nicolasfr: As long as PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hostap-modules = "linux-openzaurus", it should work... |
| 09:31.26 | hrw | RP: iirc we do not have such depends yet... |
| 09:31.28 | koen | RP: no, it shouldn't |
| 09:31.37 | koen | RP: not every machines uses linux-oz as a kernel ;) |
| 09:31.40 | koen | -s |
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| 09:32.44 | RP | koen: Ok, as long as you use a kernel with the right PROVIDES and set PREFERRED_PROVIDER correctly ;-) |
| 09:33.03 | RP | hrw: Such DEPENDS are planned. Someone just needs to write the code |
| 09:34.13 | RP | We should get bitbake at least accepting them so we can start to improve the metadata for when bitbake does support it |
| 09:34.16 | hrw | RP: I was thinking about something like 'if (PV_virtual/kernel > 2.6.14) then skippackage' in hostap-modules |
| 09:35.07 | RP | hrw: I gave that a lot of thought and its a really bad idea. Trust me on this... |
| 09:35.14 | hrw | ok |
| 09:35.31 | hrw | you are bitbake hacker not I |
| 09:35.36 | RP | hrw: DEPENDS = "virtual/kernel (<= 2.6.14)" does what we need in a much less painful way |
| 09:37.53 | nicolasfr | Geode framebuffer driver in kernel 2.6 is broken. Hopefully vesa fb works fine :) |
| 09:37.55 | koen | RP: cool |
| 09:38.00 | koen | RP: using insane.bbclass? |
| 09:38.37 | RP | koen: find -wholename */.debug | grep -v dbg | grep install in WORKDIR |
| 09:38.50 | RP | koen: Anything listed is buggy packaging |
| 09:38.55 | koen | right, that works as well :) |
| 09:39.24 | RP | koen: I also have a list of "not installed" files to deal with... |
| 09:39.49 | koen | RP: I started mentioning the actual poky revisions that got merged, is that a good idea? |
| 09:40.13 | RP | koen: I guess if someone wanted to track something back into poky it would be |
| 09:40.43 | RP | I don't know if anyone will ever want to do that but if they do,,, :) |
| 09:42.37 | hrw | koen: good idea |
| 09:43.34 | nicolasfr | I have a compile error on rxvt-unicode (any version) with TARGET_ARCH=486 with some #error defined in .h file: http://pastebin.ca/227528 . Anyone has seen this alreday? |
| 09:44.04 | koen | nicolasfr: yes, that's why I removed it locally from gpe-image |
| 09:44.29 | nicolasfr | koen: remove rxvt? |
| 09:44.46 | koen | I commented it out in the task file |
| 09:44.54 | koen | I had hoped the new rxvt would have fixed it |
| 09:45.19 | nicolasfr | ok. Do you have an idea of what "#error set intp_t" should do in a .h file? |
| 09:45.32 | nicolasfr | "#error" ? |
| 09:46.34 | hrw | its good to have 0.01 pln/minute for cellphone |
| 09:47.38 | hrw | 10:48 hrw@home:devel$ . setup-oe.sh build/umbaumba/ |
| 09:48.25 | cyrilRomain | nicolasfr: it is used to trigger an error on compilation when for example a symbol has been defined but should not |
| 09:48.54 | nicolasfr | cyrilRomain: ok! just understood while reading this: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/100/10073.html |
| 09:49.02 | koen | RP: I'll take care of merging rev 831 |
| 09:49.53 | cyrilRomain | nicolasfr: a better explanation here: http://docs.freebsd.org/info/cpp/cpp.info._error_Directive.html |
| 09:53.13 | hrw | conf/distro/umbaumba-17.3.conf created |
| 09:54.31 | nicolasfr | hrw: a new distro based on "Charlie and the chocolate factory" ? :) |
| 09:55.27 | hrw | nicolasfr: no |
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| 09:55.45 | hrw | nicolasfr: its my own distro for my devices. |
| 09:55.52 | hrw | mtn: warning: rename target conflict: nodes 2147483648, 18097, both want parent 8, name distro-packages |
| 09:55.55 | hrw | mtn: warning: resolve non-content conflicts and then try again. |
| 09:55.55 | hrw | ~lart monootne |
| 09:58.16 | nicolasfr | would any OE member be interested by a x86 kind of tablet / webpad? |
| 09:59.16 | hrw | tatung 800x600 webpad? |
| 09:59.27 | nicolasfr | no other kind Transmeta cpu (http://progear.sourceforge.net/ and google for details). It's collecting dust... |
| 09:59.54 | nicolasfr | I can donate to OE team if someone wants to pay for shipping |
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| 10:05.22 | RP | koen: ok, hopefully a diff from poky will roughly apply to OE |
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| 10:06.00 | koen | RP: you forgot to bump PRs :( |
| 10:08.23 | RP | koen: true :-(. Was too busy trying to cover them all. The diff with OE probably would have failed anyway in that case... |
| 10:08.42 | koen | and OE actually had a lot of them already fixed |
| 10:08.50 | koen | 26 files changed, 70 insertions(+), 52 deletions(-) |
| 10:09.31 | RP | koen: I suspected OE might. I really need to try and sync things... |
| 10:09.51 | hrw | nicolasfr: looks interesting |
| 10:11.39 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3fb58b0a... 10/ (27 files in 18 dirs): |
| 10:11.39 | CIA-4 | packages/: various .debug packaging fixes (from Poky) |
| 10:11.39 | CIA-4 | * poky rev 831: 'packages: various .debug packaging fixes' |
| 10:13.56 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb9ffe3b2... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): |
| 10:13.56 | CIA-4 | bitbake.conf: Fix .debug packaging (from Poky) |
| 10:13.56 | CIA-4 | * poky rev 828: 'bitbake.conf: Fix .debug packaging' |
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| 10:42.00 | koen | "> Oh, and I used to fear that run-time checks for features at |
| 10:42.00 | koen | > configure-time would be problematic, but I've recently found that |
| 10:42.00 | koen | > scratchbox magically supports these for embedded development. So I |
| 10:42.01 | koen | > don't have a problem relying on these and telling users to either |
| 10:42.01 | koen | > 1. Compile natively. 2. Cross-compile with scratchbox. or 3. Compile |
| 10:42.01 | koen | > either way and hand-write the config.h settings as appropriate." |
| 10:42.06 | koen | ~kill carl worth |
| 10:42.14 | ibot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse fluxpositrino gun at carl worth |
| 10:42.20 | koen | ~lart carl worth |
| 10:42.56 | koen | "There shouldn't be a --enable option for it. Instead, it should run |
| 10:42.57 | koen | code in configure to detect whether the fast conversion works." |
| 10:43.09 | koen | ~lart Behdad Esfahbod |
| 10:43.21 | koen | it seems the cairo 'developers' are a bunch of morons |
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| 10:56.56 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
| 10:57.15 | koen | hey psokolovsky |
| 10:57.18 | psokolovsky | koen, Carl Worth - isn't that the same guy who wrote ipkg? |
| 10:57.25 | koen | psokolovsky: yes |
| 10:58.35 | psokolovsky | koen, oh ;-) I guess that cairo would indeed need some post-release fixing ;-). would be nice to fix ipkg first, at least ;-) |
| 11:00.54 | nicolasfr | koen: a new target for Angstrom :) http://www.geek-fr.com/lib/exe/detail.php/projects:tatung-linux-x11_01.jpg?id=start&cache=cache |
| 11:01.24 | koen | nicolasfr: cool |
| 11:01.42 | koen | nicolasfr: iirc mallum fixed the 15 bit color issues in matchbox a while ago |
| 11:02.44 | nicolasfr | koen: does it mean I need a special param to launch matchbox? cause the funky colors are not so useable !! |
| 11:03.01 | koen | nicolasfr: you'd have to ask mallum or RP |
| 11:03.19 | nicolasfr | ok I'll do |
| 11:03.38 | CIA-4 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r79d76f97... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Update SVN_REV on 2.6.18, update 2.6.19 to -rc3 |
| 11:03.52 | rob_w | exceptions.NameError:name 'linux_module_packages' is not defined while evaluating: |
| 11:03.52 | rob_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:04.01 | rob_w | whats my problem ?? |
| 11:04.10 | rob_w | a broken machine.conf file ? |
| 11:04.36 | nicolasfr | now I have to dig for the touchscreen. Is there any kernel/hardware guru I could ask help ? |
| 11:04.51 | RP | koen: There is a patch in poky for it but its not applied to matchbox svn for various reasons |
| 11:05.33 | koen | rob_w: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/view/rev/19329/ |
| 11:05.44 | koen | rob_w: but that function shouldn't be needed anymore |
| 11:06.46 | rob_w | oh , i will check .. |
| 11:07.08 | rob_w | btw would be scary to give me some sort of oe access .. |
| 11:07.11 | nicolasfr | RP: you are talking about the 15bit color problem? |
| 11:07.29 | RP | nicolasfr: yes |
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| 11:08.07 | nicolasfr | ok, I have a look right now |
| 11:08.12 | RP | nicolasfr: Although that patch was for a problem with 16bit BGR being treated as 16bit RGB |
| 11:08.28 | RP | I don't think I've ever used 15bit hardware... |
| 11:09.24 | koen | RP: buy an SGI :) |
| 11:18.40 | nicolasfr | http://www.geek-fr.com/lib/exe/detail.php/projects:tatung-linux-x11_02.jpg?id=blog%3Ax11_on_the_tatung_webpad&cache=cache |
| 11:19.08 | nicolasfr | stupid me I was booting with vga=771 (8bits) instead of vga=788 (16bits) |
| 11:20.05 | koen | nicolasfr: another problem solved :) |
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| 11:28.12 | nicolasfr | koen: Yeah! thanks for the help. Check this one for the Gallery of "Angstromized devices": http://www.geek-fr.com/lib/exe/detail.php/projects:tatung-linux-x11_03.jpg?id=blog%3Ax11_on_the_tatung_webpad&cache=cache |
| 11:28.35 | koen | :) |
| 11:32.32 | NAiL | hmm |
| 11:33.31 | NAiL | when does .fr change from CEST to CET? :) |
| 11:33.47 | koen | .nl changed last night :) |
| 11:33.54 | NAiL | so did .no ;) |
| 11:34.46 | NAiL | just wondering, since the tatung webpad is using CEST :-P |
| 11:36.08 | nicolasfr | ahah, tatung has not time adjusted |
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| 11:36.11 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4d5affce... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: fix FEED URIs |
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| 11:44.26 | psokolovsky | koen, Saw my cc: about busybox's "ps" stuff? dod you think it applies to us? I didn't check yet. |
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| 11:52.06 | sirfred | Hello |
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| 11:59.17 | koen | hey sirfred |
| 11:59.32 | koen | psokolovsky: I didn't quite get the problem and solution mentioned in that mail |
| 12:00.37 | psokolovsky | koen, well, "ps" in busybox 1.2.1 suddenly stopped to accept any command-line options. |
| 12:01.48 | psokolovsky | koen, some init.d scripts in OE.dev/angstrom were failing as they were using ps options, so ps was upade-alternative'd to procps's one. (maybe there was more causes to do that) |
| 12:01.48 | sirfred | Do you know if mplayer audio is known to work on a Husky with the alsa audio output? |
| 12:03.02 | koen | right |
| 12:03.09 | koen | as usual busybox is broken |
| 12:03.48 | koen | and slightly related, several apps to 'ps -e', which requires a proper ps |
| 12:03.50 | psokolovsky | koen, so, some guy suggested to check busybox's config option, noted in that email |
| 12:06.14 | koen | CONFIG_UNBREAK_BUSYBOX isn't in 1.2.x |
| 12:06.14 | RP | sirfred: I think mplayer's alsa support is broken |
| 12:06.26 | sirfred | RP: Hello! |
| 12:06.35 | RP | (I know Liam said ASoC and the kernel was not at fault) |
| 12:06.42 | RP | hi sirfred! |
| 12:07.12 | sirfred | RP: Thanks. Perhaps trying with the oss driver. |
| 12:08.03 | sirfred | RP: I'm just starting to test a mplayer video driver based in libw100. |
| 12:08.30 | nicolasfr | umh, I can't find where the dependency for the Zaurus touchscreen is defined in the recipes (task-*? image-*?) |
| 12:08.36 | sirfred | RP: Implementing rotation and hardware scaling. |
| 12:09.24 | RP | sirfred: Sounds good :) |
| 12:09.46 | RP | nicolasfr: Which dependency? |
| 12:10.03 | nicolasfr | for the touchscreen driver under xorg |
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| 12:10.46 | RP | nicolasfr: You mean the calibrate extension? |
| 12:11.18 | nicolasfr | RP: in fact I am looking at how the touchscreen driver is implemented for the zaurus |
| 12:11.42 | nicolasfr | aren't there some sort of xf86-input-zaurustouchscreen driver? |
| 12:11.56 | koen | nicolasfr: tslib |
| 12:11.57 | RP | nicolasfr: No, it uses tslib |
| 12:12.59 | nicolasfr | oh I have to look at what is tslib exactly |
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| 12:14.21 | RP | Hmm. 344kb of diff between poky and OE :-/ |
| 12:14.40 | RP | Most of it needing to go into Poky as well... |
| 12:18.56 | RP | My .dev staging area is from April, that must be some kind of record given how much we've changed since then... |
| 12:19.49 | nicolasfr | when doing a cat /dev/ttyS0 I can see raw input of the touchscreen. Is it possible to use tslib / what would I need to do to use tslib with my touchscreen? |
| 12:20.13 | sirfred | RP: Did you had time to test my w100 kernel driver patch? |
| 12:20.29 | CIA-4 | 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r096d1985... 10/ (1 packages/altboot/altboot_1.1.0-wip.bb): |
| 12:20.29 | CIA-4 | altboot: Update to -wip-20061029 |
| 12:20.29 | CIA-4 | - Added a work-around for the broken OUT_TTY assignment on Collie |
| 12:20.35 | RP | sirfred: No, its sitting in my inbox with a load of other patches :-( |
| 12:20.37 | CIA-4 | 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * racf42803... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:20.37 | CIA-4 | altboot: Update to -wip-20061029 |
| 12:20.37 | CIA-4 | - Added a work-around for the broken OUT_TTY assignment on Collie |
| 12:21.06 | sirfred | RP: Well, I have to say that probably it will suffer of collisions with accel from X or opie. |
| 12:21.45 | RP | nicolasfr: That would depend whether tslib has a module supporting that kind of touchscreen input. Most 2.6 kernels have a kernel driver which passes the data via the input system (/dev/input/eventX) |
| 12:21.55 | RP | sirfred: do you mean before or after the patch? |
| 12:21.57 | sirfred | RP: I've changed the driver to expose a sysfs file called accel, to be able to enable/disable aceleration. |
| 12:22.01 | sirfred | RP: I mean after and before. |
| 12:22.10 | nicolasfr | RP: thanks, I will dig that |
| 12:22.21 | sirfred | RP: Well, in the practise, as the framebuffer is not active while working on X, there should be no problem. |
| 12:22.40 | sirfred | RP: But as I'm making tests while the framebuffer is also drawing (the cursor) I' ve runned into some hangs. |
| 12:22.48 | RP | sirfred: right. I guess some option to enable/disable the accel would be best |
| 12:22.58 | sirfred | RP: I can send you an updated patch. |
| 12:23.11 | RP | sirfred: yes please :) |
| 12:23.26 | sirfred | RP: But I think that the best way to go should be a way to lock the access. Something like a futex or so. |
| 12:24.16 | RP | sirfred: I should be having some holiday time soon and whilst I should really spend it away from a computer, I might get some of the patch queue looked at ;-) |
| 12:24.45 | sirfred | RP: Enjoy. :) |
| 12:25.01 | RP | sirfred: Personally, I suspect if you have something like X wanting to use the accel, it would be best to just disable the kernel code |
| 12:25.14 | sirfred | RP: Yes, that's a way to do it. |
| 12:26.23 | RP | sirfred: I'll give it some thought... |
| 12:26.31 | sirfred | RP: But if for example you want to run mplayer, using w100 acceleration directly instead of through X... |
| 12:27.19 | RP | sirfred: mplayer from a console with X on another VC? |
| 12:27.49 | RP | sirfred: I was just thinking about having X give up control of the accel upon a VC switch |
| 12:28.39 | sirfred | RP: That should work. |
| 12:29.38 | sirfred | RP: I have to leave now. Thanks for your comments. |
| 12:31.55 | RP | sirfred: np, bfn |
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| 13:00.59 | zecke | hey |
| 13:01.52 | cyrilRomain | hi zecke |
| 13:02.15 | hrw | MACHINE = "spitz" |
| 13:02.15 | hrw | DISTRO = "umbaumba-17.3" |
| 13:02.15 | hrw | DISTRO_VERSION = "17.3" |
| 13:04.02 | RP | hi zecke |
| 13:04.08 | RP | zecke: Would you agree it would be a good idea to patch bitbake trunk and bitbake 1.6 to at least accept versions in DEPENDS (even if we just ignore them for now) ? |
| 13:04.15 | RP | hi hrw |
| 13:08.32 | hrw | CIA ignore us again? |
| 13:08.53 | hrw | task-base: include irnet module only if distro feature ppp |
| 13:08.56 | hrw | pcmciautils: add 014 |
| 13:11.24 | hrw | more will follow if will build |
| 13:13.04 | hrw | bug in bitbake I found |
| 13:13.23 | hrw | or maybe not quite a bug.. |
| 13:13.47 | hrw | it would be good to have 'addtask do_sanity_check before parsing_recipes" |
| 13:14.28 | hrw | after 7 minutes of parsing I got info that DISTRO is wrong.. so I fixed it. now I need to check 7 minutes for parsing. |
| 13:23.54 | mithro | whats umbaumba? |
| 13:25.54 | RP | hrw: We really need a hook for that, I agree |
| 13:27.28 | zecke | RP: hmm |
| 13:27.34 | zecke | RP: it can't hurt :} |
| 13:27.47 | zecke | I know that it will but let us ignore this :) |
| 13:28.45 | CIA-4 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r48a764df... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): asterisk: Add missing patches |
| 13:28.52 | hrw | mithro: finally it is codename of my private distro |
| 13:29.05 | mithro | mean anything? |
| 13:29.34 | hrw | no |
| 13:30.02 | RP | bitbake 1.6 is so sloooowwww :) |
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| 13:33.53 | hrw | RP: which trunk release is safe to use? |
| 13:34.23 | RP | hrw: The latest should be. If its not, I'd like to know about it :) |
| 13:34.35 | hrw | and how to configure trunk to work like 1.6 (as one thread) |
| 13:34.41 | hrw | NOTE: package gnutls-1.4.4-r1: task do_configure: completed |
| 13:34.44 | hrw | finally |
| 13:35.08 | RP | hrw: It runs as one thread as default. If you mean only one package at a time, nobody has implemented that yet |
| 13:35.19 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie * r621 10bitbake/lib/bb/cache.py: cache.py: Allow version field in DEPENDS (ignored for now) |
| 13:35.26 | hrw | ok |
| 13:36.09 | RP | hrw: I take patches ;-) |
| 13:37.13 | hrw | I know |
| 13:38.31 | NAiL | hmm |
| 13:38.46 | NAiL | I'm getting this error: ERROR: Nothing provides dependency libc6-dev |
| 13:38.57 | NAiL | Isn't there a libc6-dev? |
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| 13:42.37 | hrw | NOTE: package gnutls-1.4.4-r0: task do_build: completed |
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| 13:49.38 | hrw | libgcrypt: added 1.2.3 |
| 13:49.46 | hrw | gnutls: added 1.4.4 |
| 13:50.25 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfaa17421... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): gnutls: added 1.4.4 |
| 13:50.48 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r72528d9d... 10/ (1 packages/libgcrypt/libgcrypt_1.2.3.bb): libgcrypt: added 1.2.3 |
| 13:53.09 | NAiL | bleh |
| 13:53.15 | NAiL | *recompile gnutls* |
| 13:53.32 | hrw | RP: what do you think about adding skippackage based on distro/machine features? |
| 13:53.37 | NAiL | I *just* finished compiling gnutls ;) |
| 13:53.46 | hrw | NAiL: me too |
| 13:54.01 | hrw | after 4 compilation it finally built |
| 13:55.05 | hrw | RP: for example: if(distro_features contain pci) then add madwifi into wpa-supplicant |
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| 14:13.19 | hrw | someone want to test wpa-supplicant 0.5.5? |
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| 14:26.33 | hrw | DEPENDS = "gnutls ${@base_contains("DISTRO_FEATURES", "pci", "madwifi", "",d)}" |
| 14:26.41 | hrw | RP: will it works? |
| 14:26.59 | hrw | or with DEPENDS += |
| 14:28.02 | hrw | it works ;D |
| 14:28.45 | hrw | sent another rfc. |
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| 14:34.25 | koen | hrw: DISTRO_FEATURES? |
| 14:34.27 | koen | isn't pci a machine feature? |
| 14:35.12 | chouimat|ibook | morning |
| 14:35.37 | hrw | koen: distro can choose to not support it |
| 14:37.07 | goxboxlive | Why isent 'export' aplied in the new busybox (1.2.2). setenv isent aplied either. |
| 14:45.14 | hrw | goxboxlive: 2 possibilities |
| 14:45.24 | hrw | 1. we do not enable/disable something in config |
| 14:45.29 | hrw | 2. busybox is broken |
| 14:48.00 | hrw | as always ;) |
| 14:48.16 | koen | since I didn't change the defconfig |
| 14:50.39 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 14:50.55 | mickeyl | morning guys |
| 14:51.41 | mickeyl | hmm. any idea whether it's possible to save a svn password somewhere? |
| 14:51.48 | mickeyl | (like ssh-agent does for ssh connections) |
| 14:51.49 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
| 14:52.03 | hrw | mickeyl: use svn+ssh? |
| 14:52.25 | mickeyl | ah, of course. good idea. |
| 14:55.56 | mickeyl | darn, that doesn't work |
| 14:56.05 | mickeyl | i guess that needs a different server configuration than http? |
| 14:57.07 | hrw | no idea |
| 14:57.55 | mickeyl | this is the last thing holding me back from dumping cvs for anything |
| 14:57.58 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 14:59.04 | hrw | mickeyl: migrate to monotone |
| 14:59.09 | zecke | mickeyl: no, not really |
| 14:59.18 | zecke | mickeyl: what is your server configuration anyway? |
| 14:59.33 | mickeyl | zecke: no idea frankly, it's not mine :/ |
| 15:02.03 | koen | mickeyl: I sorted out the angstrom feeds and wrote some more maintenance scripts |
| 15:02.18 | koen | mickeyl: we just need some php app to allow 3rd party uploads |
| 15:02.38 | mickeyl | koen: good work, thanks |
| 15:02.45 | mickeyl | do we know any php gurus? |
| 15:02.55 | hrw | on oesf I only 3 times used umbaumba word.. |
| 15:03.12 | hrw | mickeyl: php is the only language which koen know so he is best probably |
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| 15:04.00 | zecke | PHP + koen == better than frikandel |
| 15:05.52 | koen | later all |
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| 15:09.12 | koen | online travel planners work better when you are actually online :) |
| 15:09.17 | hrw | ~note to self: later == 3 minutes in .nl |
| 15:09.27 | hrw | ;D |
| 15:10.19 | hrw | NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: |
| 15:10.19 | hrw | NOTE: /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/.debug/libqpe.so.1.5.0 |
| 15:10.52 | chouimat | note to self: never decide to start making coffee ... while feeding the cat ... your feet will great appreciate this |
| 15:13.23 | hrw | CIA-4: libqpe: create -dev/-dbg packages - based on code from .oz354x |
| 15:13.45 | mickeyl | hrw: re. adding qmake-non-native... i tried... it's _very_ hard |
| 15:14.15 | mickeyl | i will keep working on that, but don't expect it anytime soon |
| 15:14.16 | zecke | mickeyl: NP hard? |
| 15:14.24 | hrw | mickeyl: ok |
| 15:14.28 | mickeyl | zecke: no, probably just P, but hard enough :D |
| 15:14.29 | koen | mickeyl: ncurses? |
| 15:15.01 | zecke | Hmm two more days and Qtopia celebrates one year of no GPL release :) |
| 15:15.16 | mickeyl | koen: *nod* I'm doing 10 to 12 hours Gtk+ programming at the moment... it's very hard to get a timeframe :/ |
| 15:15.18 | koen | zecke: two more days and mickeyl moves opie to obsolete |
| 15:15.31 | mickeyl | moving opie has been cancelled |
| 15:15.36 | mickeyl | we have a new maintainer |
| 15:15.48 | zecke | psokolo* volunteered? |
| 15:15.53 | mickeyl | psokolovsky |
| 15:16.10 | mickeyl | he seems committed |
| 15:16.21 | zecke | I think the same |
| 15:16.30 | mickeyl | so i think we should give him until January to see whether this manifests in commits |
| 15:16.39 | mickeyl | if not, we can move it then |
| 15:16.41 | mickeyl | how does that sound? |
| 15:17.09 | hrw | good for me |
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| 15:18.46 | goxboxlive | good news |
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| 15:19.43 | hrw | Packaged contents of qte-mt-dbg into /home/hrw/devel/build/umbaumba/tmp/deploy/ipk/qte-mt-dbg_2.3.10-r3_spitz.ipk |
| 15:19.46 | hrw | Packaged contents of qte-mt-dev into /home/hrw/devel/build/umbaumba/tmp/deploy/ipk/qte-mt-dev_2.3.10-r3_spitz.ipk |
| 15:20.50 | hrw | question... -dev *-dbg should be same arch as PN or can be TARGET_ARCH? |
| 15:21.15 | zecke | hrw: that depends |
| 15:21.29 | hrw | on? |
| 15:21.31 | zecke | hrw: e.g. if someone installs a config.h or such |
| 15:21.46 | zecke | hrw: this can depend on the TARGET_ARCH |
| 15:21.58 | hrw | thats yes |
| 15:24.14 | hrw | how does it looks with dbg ones? |
| 15:24.45 | koen | same as the main packages |
| 15:24.59 | hrw | ok |
| 15:25.07 | hrw | thx |
| 15:31.00 | hrw | CIA-4: qte: create -dev/-dbg packages - based on code from .oz354x |
| 15:34.16 | koen | zecke|food: what do you think about having insane.bbclass reporting to tinderbox? |
| 15:34.54 | hrw | koen: but only if tinderclient is inherited |
| 15:35.04 | koen | hrw: yes |
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| 15:45.05 | gremlin[it] | what is the repository org.openembedded.packaged-staging ??? |
| 15:45.16 | zecke|food | gremlin[it]: check the README of this repository |
| 15:45.20 | koen | check the README |
| 15:45.24 | zecke|food | hehe |
| 15:45.40 | gremlin[it] | hihi :) |
| 15:45.42 | zecke|food | koen: maybe do a DONT_README_ASK_IN_OE |
| 15:45.55 | koen | that's an option as well |
| 15:46.30 | zecke|food | http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/28/fcc-confirms-new-nokia-internet-tablet-device/ ?? |
| 15:46.42 | hrw | nokia 330? |
| 15:47.16 | koen | zecke|food: old news :) |
| 15:47.18 | hrw | fsck.. Ani laptop was connected to AC. now it complain about low battery... |
| 15:47.34 | gremlin[it] | mhhh where's the README ... i'm browsing it via the oe.org/filebrowser ... |
| 15:47.36 | koen | zecke|food: we already had fun with the exif in #maemo :) |
| 15:47.43 | zecke|food | ah |
| 15:48.53 | hrw | I need more AC outlets.. |
| 15:49.32 | koen | hrw: less toys :) |
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| 15:50.32 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdf4a4af6... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): libqpe: create -dev/-dbg packages - based on code from .oz354x |
| 15:50.56 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdf4a4af6... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): libqpe: create -dev/-dbg packages - based on code from .oz354x |
| 15:51.02 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6c93a8de... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): qte: create -dev/-dbg packages - based on code from .oz354x |
| 15:51.41 | NAiL | koen: there is no such thing as "less toys" ;) |
| 15:52.10 | hrw | desktop machine, crt monitor, subwoofer, cable modem, wrt54gs, zaurus charger, 2nd zaurus changer |
| 15:52.24 | hrw | koen: now added laptop instead of 2nd charger |
| 15:52.40 | koen | that reminds me |
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| 15:53.56 | koen | around* |
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| 16:03.25 | hrw | time to go get some pizza or something |
| 16:04.59 | hrw | cu |
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| 16:34.37 | rob_w | seems oe cant find my hosts dbus/shared.h .. although i can find it in /usr/local |
| 16:35.02 | zecke|food | rob_w: yes? |
| 16:35.08 | zecke|food | rob_w: a) why does it need the host one? |
| 16:35.17 | zecke|food | rob_w: us /usr/lib/pkgconfig in your PKG_CONFIG_PATH? |
| 16:35.34 | rob_w | zecke|food, will check that thanks |
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| 17:16.42 | zecke|food | psokolovsky: congratulation and good luck for maintaining |
| 17:25.26 | NAiL | hmm |
| 17:25.48 | NAiL | is there a non-huge syntax highlighting editor available for gnome? |
| 17:26.31 | zecke|food | gedit? gvim? gemacs? |
| 17:29.22 | NAiL | hm |
| 17:29.33 | NAiL | gedit is supposed to highlight. But it doesn't work. |
| 17:30.13 | NAiL | aha |
| 17:30.14 | NAiL | nm |
| 17:30.30 | NAiL | thanks ;) |
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| 17:39.01 | hrw | re |
| 17:40.56 | psokolovsky | zecke|food, Thanks Holger! Hope my motives were sound and understood. |
| 17:42.04 | hrw | psokolovsky: bluepin req linking with g++ instead of gcc |
| 17:42.29 | hrw | | ccache arm-linux-gcc -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -L/home/hrw/devel/build/umbaumba/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/hrw/devel/build/umbaumba/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib -Wl,-O1 -Wl,-rpath-link,/home/hrw/devel/build/umbaumba/tmp/staging/arm-linux/qt2/lib -o bluepin main.o pindlg.o pindlgbase.o moc_pindlg.o moc_pindlgbase.o -L/home/hrw/devel/build/umbaumba/tmp/staging/arm-linux/qt2/lib -lqpe -lsupc++ -lqpe -lqte-mt -lpthread |
| 17:42.36 | hrw | | /home/hrw/devel/build/umbaumba/tmp/staging/arm-linux/qt2/lib/libqte-mt.so: undefined reference to `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info' |
| 17:42.47 | zecke|food | -fno-rtti |
| 17:43.09 | hrw | zecke|food: or g++ but good to know. thx |
| 17:43.37 | zecke|food | *type_info* == mix of -frtti and -fno-rtti |
| 17:46.10 | goxboxlive | hrw:Are you building some opie stuff? |
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| 17:48.07 | hrw | goxboxlive: opie-image for spitz/umbaumba |
| 17:48.51 | hrw | hmm.. all opie packages contain debug infos.. |
| 17:49.00 | goxboxlive | ok, i am trying to build meta-opie-all now. So far no cry :-) . The only bug is some missing sources i have to grab other places. |
| 18:05.34 | hrw | psokolovsky: opie-rdesktop is another failed |
| 18:06.35 | psokolovsky | hrw, thanks ;-) I'm not yet nominated maintainer, but already get bugreports. Nope, I'm not going to be scared ;-) |
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| 18:16.30 | zecke|food | psokolovsky: lucky you :) |
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| 18:22.31 | hrw | psokolovsky: one of things which need changing is fixing opie stuff to proper package *-dbg stuf |
| 18:22.49 | psokolovsky | hrw, yeah, I got that |
| 18:37.26 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.6 * r622 10/bin/bitbake: bitbake-1.6: Allow version field in DEPENDS (ignored for now) |
| 18:41.16 | hrw | opie-qcop also need rtti |
| 18:42.33 | RP | After the next bitbake 1.6 is released, we should be able to start adding versioned DEPENDS, even if bitbake doesn't use them yet... |
| 18:43.13 | zecke|food | hrw: why does it need rtti? |
| 18:43.57 | hrw | zecke|food: rttifix I mean |
| 18:44.08 | hrw | opie-alarm is next one |
| 18:44.22 | zecke|food | hrw: hmm then your opie.bbclass/qmake.bbclass is broken |
| 18:44.28 | zecke|food | hrw: or just your QtE compile |
| 18:44.56 | hrw | zecke|food: I use plain .dev basically |
| 18:45.32 | zecke|food | hrw: I only judge by the smell :) |
| 18:45.57 | hrw | 'punk is not dead. It just smell like that' |
| 18:46.23 | zecke|food | well punk is not dead :) If we would have paid for the entry... :) |
| 18:46.36 | hrw | zecke|food: ;D |
| 18:46.51 | zecke|food | hrw: Punk is not dead, it is non-free :) |
| 18:52.08 | chouimat | punk? |
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| 18:53.49 | hrw | psokolovsky: other then that rtti things opie-image is still buildable with gcc344 |
| 18:55.52 | psokolovsky_ | hrw, in OE.dev, right? |
| 18:57.55 | hrw | yes |
| 18:58.16 | psokolovsky_ | ok |
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| 19:13.36 | hrw | http://www.msfirefox.com/ |
| 19:13.38 | hrw | ;D |
| 19:14.18 | gremlin[it] | got a problem compiling linux-handhelds-2.6.17-hh2 |
| 19:14.39 | gremlin[it] | >> cp: cannot stat `/media/hd1/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/defconfig': No such file or directory |
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| 19:15.22 | gremlin[it] | seem as SRC_URI file://defconfig isnt present (or correct) ... |
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| 19:16.42 | _law_|iBook | hi all |
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| 19:39.30 | pH5 | gremlin[it]: linux-handhelds-2.6/$MACHINE/defconfig is missing for your machine. |
| 19:39.47 | gremlin[it] | ah ... ok ... |
| 19:40.00 | gremlin[it] | thanks pH5 ... |
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| 19:52.35 | gremlin_it | pH5 , in cvs as defconfig is taken the one present into the kernel source ... why not happen with versioned kernel ? |
| 19:54.59 | pH5 | gremlin[it]: I think this is related to the switch from handhelds-sa to linux-handhelds. handhelds-pxa did it this way for some time already. |
| 19:55.52 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, gremlin[it]: Note that I did some refactoring lately for hh.org defconfigs. 2.6.16 are live in linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.16. And ones for "HEAD" live in linux-handhelds-2.6. I updated to 2.6.17 and committed there only defconfigs for few machines, need your help to fill it in. |
| 19:55.56 | gremlin_it | mhh ok ... so when i send a patch to the kernel i also have to send to oe? right ? |
| 19:57.29 | psokolovsky_ | gremlin_it, Ideal devel situation: you use same defconfig for hh.org CVS and OE so it was clear when to update one in OE ;-) Otherwise yes, please send pacthes for OE too. |
| 19:57.53 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, gremlin_it: we really should consider how to may defconfig stuff more maintainable |
| 19:57.57 | psokolovsky_ | afk |
| 20:00.33 | gremlin_it | psokolovsky_, my opinion is defconfig management can be ok as is now, but adding a fallback to what is inside the kernel source when nothing is defined :) |
| 20:01.01 | hrw | gremlin_it: all OE kernels have defconfigs in OE |
| 20:02.51 | gremlin[it]NCIS | hrw i know and is correct ... :) |
| 20:03.57 | hrw | RP: can you move COMBINED_FEATURES somewhere outside of task-base? |
| 20:04.47 | hrw | RP: it can be used in opie-image and meta-opie |
| 20:04.53 | hrw | s/meta/task |
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| 20:13.33 | hrw | psokolovsky_: do you want task-opie/opie-image moved to task-base way? |
| 20:13.34 | XorA | morning |
| 20:13.38 | hrw | hi XorA |
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| 20:15.09 | koen | re |
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| 20:15.53 | hrw | qm Kun |
| 20:16.02 | XorA | come server |
| 20:17.59 | XorA | small arm nas devices seem to be rare in uk |
| 20:18.16 | XorA | and ones supported by linux even rarer |
| 20:18.58 | hrw | XorA: even nslu2? |
| 20:19.27 | hrw | umbaumba 17.3 opie-image built. |
| 20:20.01 | XorA | hrw: yeah its not common, ill have to search beyond normal suppliers I use |
| 20:20.19 | XorA | hrw: though I had hoped for something with internal hd |
| 20:20.33 | koen | XorA: thecus n2100 |
| 20:22.29 | XorA | koen: we support that in oe? |
| 20:22.44 | koen | XorA: not yet, but people are running debian on it |
| 20:22.57 | koen | XorA: and it takes DIMMs :) |
| 20:23.03 | koen | XorA: see http://www.cyrius.com/journal/debian/gcc-4.2-arm or ask suihkulokki |
| 20:27.29 | XorA | koen: cool, i am looking now |
| 20:28.55 | hrw | 300-400 eur without discs |
| 20:29.51 | psokolovsky_ | hrw, perhaps, yes. I yet should to get the full idea what that would mean. If that would mean that if machine doesn't define taht it has sound, the OPIE (and GPE) apps related to sound doesn't get built, then yes, that's how treat what MACHINE_FEATURE's handling should be extended to eventually... |
| 20:30.38 | hrw | psokolovsky_: I have task-opie and opie-image switched to task-base behaviour - but they duplicate some code |
| 20:31.07 | psokolovsky_ | gremlin[it]NCIS, yes, as hrw pointed, that won't do. OE wants to be sure that kernels are built with a known configuration, so using (random from OE's point of view) configs from outside won't do. |
| 20:31.07 | zecke|food | hrw: take a look at options of darwinports :) |
| 20:31.27 | psokolovsky_ | hrw, I guess, that's good |
| 20:32.24 | suihkulokki | XorA: thecus is a very friendly vendor, they've sent lennert every document he asked for |
| 20:32.48 | XorA | suihkulokki: cool |
| 20:32.48 | XorA | suihkulokki: just tracking down uk prices |
| 20:33.11 | XorA | suihkulokki: looks just like what i need though |
| 20:34.47 | koen | XorA: and lennert is learning OE, so support shouldn't be too hard :) |
| 20:35.14 | suihkulokki | XorA: the main minus is noisy fan. |
| 20:35.21 | hrw | zecke|food: hopefully none of my current and future machines does not need osx |
| 20:35.59 | zecke|food | hrw: just take a look at options by reading the documentation |
| 20:36.11 | zecke|food | hrw: something more sane and managable than USE flags of gentoo |
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| 20:37.16 | XorA | suihkulokki: it will be in a noisy room anyway |
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| 20:58.42 | hrw | I need shave |
| 20:58.49 | zecke|food | hehe |
| 20:59.27 | XorA | hrw: linuxworld proved gurus dont shave |
| 20:59.59 | zecke|food | XorA: sure but what about super-gurus like koen and me? |
| 21:02.31 | ggilbert | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Gomunicator |
| 21:02.32 | ggilbert | nifty |
| 21:03.45 | hrw | XorA: those gurus does not have girlfriends |
| 21:04.14 | zecke|food | hrw: thanks that hurts :) |
| 21:04.44 | zecke|food | ggilbert: am I right that it is unlikely we see bugzilla 2.22 on bugs.oe.org soon? |
| 21:04.53 | ggilbert | do we want 2.22? |
| 21:05.25 | zecke|food | ggilbert: I would like to have xmlrpc.cgi |
| 21:05.33 | zecke|food | ggilbert: I don't know if I will need it though |
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| 21:07.17 | ggilbert | I don't have any reason not to upgrade |
| 21:07.24 | ggilbert | I'll do it sometime this week |
| 21:07.37 | zecke|food | ggilbert: ah I thought it was just a stock debian/foo installation :) |
| 21:07.49 | ggilbert | nope |
| 21:08.49 | ggilbert | bugzilla is reasonably painless |
| 21:09.21 | hrw | ggilbert: will you fix theme finally? |
| 21:09.30 | ggilbert | What is the theme problem? |
| 21:09.50 | hrw | let me check again |
| 21:09.54 | ggilbert | email me |
| 21:10.03 | hrw | <div id="head" title="open embedded"><img src="/images/logo.png" alt="Open Embedded" width="215" height="142"/> |
| 21:10.13 | hrw | is not closed with </div> |
| 21:10.47 | den-ros | hrw: What site here talking about? |
| 21:10.55 | hrw | den-ros: bugs.oe |
| 21:10.56 | ggilbert | poking me in irc is usually a good way to get me to forget in 20 minutes |
| 21:11.11 | hrw | ggilbert: treke at treke? |
| 21:11.16 | ggilbert | greg |
| 21:11.19 | hrw | ok |
| 21:11.25 | ggilbert | I don't think treke is a configured alias |
| 21:12.09 | hrw | ggilbert: sent |
| 21:12.58 | RP | hrw: We really need to give DISTRO_FEATURES some kind of sane defaults if we're to start using it as heavily as you're suggesting... |
| 21:14.09 | RP | hrw: I guess we need a class if other places want access to COMBINED_FEATURES... |
| 21:14.35 | zecke|food | Please guys, take a look at Macports 'options' :) |
| 21:14.46 | koen | zecke|food: maybe in ~2 weeks |
| 21:15.00 | koen | zecke|food: and I still like fink better |
| 21:15.02 | hrw | zecke|food: darwinports.com docs? |
| 21:15.14 | zecke|food | macports.org -> old ... |
| 21:15.40 | zecke|food | koen: me too, and everything that needs keyboard input is heavily broken on macports (like mc) |
| 21:15.48 | hrw | opendarwin -> darwinports -> macports |
| 21:16.18 | zecke|food | well OpenDarwin is dead :) |
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| 21:16.55 | hrw | zecke|food: by 'options' you mean 'variants'? |
| 21:17.08 | hrw | 'port install php5 +apache2 +mysql' way? |
| 21:18.01 | zecke|food | yes, variants :} |
| 21:18.11 | zecke|food | and the syntax (similiar to our overrides) |
| 21:18.21 | zecke|food | what we need to avoid is the useflags mess of gentoo :} |
| 21:18.32 | zecke|food | we need something usable |
| 21:18.36 | zecke|food | and managable |
| 21:18.53 | koen | and non-1337 |
| 21:18.56 | ggilbert | hrw: fixed |
| 21:19.16 | hrw | do_configure() { \n...} \n do_configure() pci {\n....}? |
| 21:19.20 | hrw | ggilbert: gracias |
| 21:19.55 | hrw | finally gecko and konq will not show 'open embedded' tooltip over whole page |
| 21:20.02 | cyrilRomain | zecke|food: what do you mean by 'useflags mess' ? |
| 21:20.11 | hrw | 'This page is not Valid HTML 4.01 Transitional! '( |
| 21:21.19 | cyrilRomain | zecke|food: too many flags to manage ? |
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| 21:25.42 | zecke|food | cyrilRomain: yes, way too many useflags, no process to make sure the semantics of them are the same :) |
| 21:27.01 | hrw | cyrilRomain: openssl or not, gnutls or openssl or none, pci/wifi/bt/usbgadget/usbhost/irda/ppp/apm support, kernel 2.4/2.6 |
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| 21:28.18 | zecke|food | hrw: I start to be a BOFH again :) |
| 21:28.51 | zecke|food | hrw: and I think he is on familiar, but he has not said so... |
| 21:29.15 | hrw | sure |
| 21:29.16 | cyrilRomain | well it's all about choice... but I agree there could be less use flag and unless you set use flags per application, it is quite difficult to control the set of use flags used |
| 21:29.31 | zecke|food | cyrilRomain: you just need to make sure the flags work |
| 21:29.43 | zecke|food | cyrilRomain: and you need to make sure that they are managable :) |
| 21:30.14 | ggilbert | zecke|food: upgraded |
| 21:30.19 | zecke|food | ggilbert: you rock! |
| 21:30.31 | ggilbert | seems to be ok |
| 21:30.52 | zecke|food | ggilbert: could you check if you have a xmlrpc.cgi somewhere? |
| 21:32.17 | ggilbert | nope |
| 21:33.12 | ggilbert | looking about |
| 21:33.14 | zecke|food | hmm |
| 21:33.29 | ggilbert | it might be an addon |
| 21:34.04 | zecke|food | ah, xml.cgi :) |
| 21:35.09 | ggilbert | hmm, I thought that had been there for a while |
| 21:36.00 | zecke|food | oh :) |
| 21:36.12 | zecke|food | I might have mixed it with the GNOME bugzilla |
| 21:36.43 | ggilbert | ha |
| 21:36.55 | ggilbert | yeah, it looks like it might be something redhat built as an addon |
| 21:38.31 | ggilbert | if you find the source and it isn't too horrible, I'll set it up |
| 21:38.43 | zecke|food | http://lxr.mozilla.org/bugzilla/source/xmlrpc.cgi |
| 21:39.03 | zecke|food | hmm |
| 21:39.10 | zecke|food | I will research and mail you |
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| 21:39.43 | hrw | shit. the only one living admin signed off |
| 21:39.53 | ggilbert | looks like I need Bugzilla::WebService |
| 21:41.06 | zecke|food | hrw: heh? |
| 21:41.27 | hrw | zecke|food: koen |
| 21:41.39 | zecke|food | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=224577 |
| 21:41.47 | hrw | root@home:/etc/apt/sources.list.d# apt-get install openembedded-essential |
| 21:42.37 | hrw | zecke|food: and I need ltg# for it |
| 21:42.49 | ggilbert | zecke|food: Yeah, it doesn't look like you'll be getting it any time soon |
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| 21:44.05 | ggilbert | I don't know the bugzilla internals enough to consider tracking unstable |
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| 21:44.19 | hrw | ~lart my rootfs |
| 21:44.33 | hrw | have to go and boot into single - cu |
| 21:44.35 | zecke|food | ggilbert: yeah, xml.cgi will be enough to track it... |
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| 21:56.21 | hrw | re |
| 21:56.30 | hrw | ~lart my rootfs again |
| 21:57.34 | hrw | ~lart kmail^Wkdepim |
| 21:59.01 | zecke|food | n8 |
| 21:59.51 | nicolasfr | hrw: hi. did you get the PM I sent earlier today? |
| 22:00.20 | hrw | nicolasfr: no |
| 22:00.25 | hrw | ~lart kde |
| 22:01.06 | nicolasfr | hrw: you get my pm? |
| 22:01.14 | hrw | nicolasfr: did not |
| 22:01.29 | nicolasfr | :/ Gaim problem? ... |
| 22:02.19 | nicolasfr | anyway, I was talking about the tablet. If you're interested just email me your address |
| 22:02.56 | XorA | suihkulokki: are there instructions somewhere for installing debian without serial port hack? |
| 22:03.09 | hrw | nicolasfr: ah.. that one |
| 22:03.26 | hrw | brb |
| 22:07.01 | hrw | had to reboot again |
| 22:07.24 | nicolasfr | hehe |
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| 22:34.47 | hrw | cu |
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| 23:07.05 | HopsNBarley | hey rwhitby |
| 23:07.11 | rwhitby | hey |
| 23:10.37 | HopsNBarley | has there been any discussion of making openslug a more general purpose distribution for embedded devs of a certain class? |
| 23:11.22 | HopsNBarley | and by certain class, i mean flash kernel/root, config area, packing system, etc. |
| 23:15.50 | rwhitby | HopsNBarley: it already is - see slugos.conf |
| 23:16.35 | rwhitby | but I really think anything more general should be based on generic OE rather than slugos |
| 23:16.49 | rwhitby | koen already says that slugos is too complex :-) |
| 23:23.10 | HopsNBarley | thanks for the tip. |
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