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| 01:43.57 | O_Neil | anyone knows where to get a keys list contain description? |
| 01:45.26 | Crofton | description of what? |
| 01:45.34 | O_Neil | I have a old copy, it's quite old, and I want to update it, but don't know where to get it |
| 01:45.47 | Crofton | old copy of what? |
| 01:45.50 | O_Neil | like PROVIDE definitions |
| 01:46.01 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:46.11 | O_Neil | and BUILD_ARCH, a full variable list |
| 01:46.11 | Crofton | you mean like documentation? |
| 01:46.15 | O_Neil | yes |
| 01:46.35 | Crofton | some docs have been appearing on the website .... |
| 01:46.58 | kergoth | there are often variable descriptions inline in the .conf's as well, as flags ont he var |
| 01:47.25 | O_Neil | generate a document will be better |
| 01:47.57 | Crofton | we know that ..... |
| 01:48.40 | O_Neil | I have an old copy, but don't know how to gernate it |
| 01:49.07 | kergoth | run bitdoc. |
| 01:49.13 | kergoth | or read the bitbake.conf |
| 01:49.58 | JustinP | org.openembedded.documentation |
| 01:51.00 | O_Neil | these keys are defined in documented.conf |
| 02:01.08 | CIA-4 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r78eb0c15... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:01.09 | CIA-4 | clamav 0.88.5: Add new stable branch release of clamav. From the news |
| 02:01.09 | CIA-4 | file: |
| 02:01.09 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:01.09 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.07 | CIA-4 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r4600b457... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 02:10.07 | CIA-4 | clamav,lingpng,quagga: Remove some empty directories that I appear to have |
| 02:10.07 | CIA-4 | left behing while deleting things in the last. |
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| 06:42.49 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rff788cda... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h5000.conf conf/machine/h5xxx.conf): |
| 06:42.49 | CIA-4 | h5xxx: rename machine back to its original name |
| 06:42.49 | CIA-4 | * renaming machines breaks overrides. In this case the kernel couldn't find its defconfig |
| 06:42.49 | CIA-4 | * renaming machines breaks ipkg since existing installations don't know about the new arch |
| 06:42.49 | CIA-4 | * renaming machines breaks existing distributions |
| 06:42.49 | CIA-4 | So please don't rename machines without providing an upgrade path |
| 06:44.34 | woglinde | he koen |
| 06:45.10 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc8b6f226... 10/ (1 packages/fltk/fltk-1.2+cvs20040806): fltk: dropped empty dir - close #1490 |
| 06:47.53 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r649af75f... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: added Rolf Leggewie - close #1493 |
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| 06:48.31 | B_Lizzard | Good Morning |
| 06:49.23 | woglinde | hello blizzard |
| 06:50.03 | B_Lizzard | Is opie-writer only supposed to read and write html? |
| 06:50.14 | B_Lizzard | I thought it could do rtf |
| 06:50.19 | woglinde | wrong channel? |
| 06:50.32 | B_Lizzard | I thought someone here had some experience |
| 06:50.46 | B_Lizzard | I asked twice on #opie, and they won't answer |
| 06:51.27 | B_Lizzard | No matter |
| 06:52.00 | woglinde | because they are not in front of theier computers? |
| 06:52.13 | woglinde | easiest is to check the source code |
| 06:52.35 | B_Lizzard | Ah |
| 06:52.38 | B_Lizzard | Will do |
| 06:53.00 | B_Lizzard | The website and the name of the program say it does, but the program doesn't |
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| 06:58.54 | YoG | hi, I'm trying to find the version of libgaim-protocol-msn in oe. I'm looking in the "browse tree" option in the website, but I don't seem to find it under "packages", can anybody point me to the right direction? |
| 06:59.14 | koen | YoG: it's part of the gaim recipes |
| 06:59.45 | YoG | so I should look inside the qpe-gaim package? |
| 07:00.20 | koen | get the ipkg and look at the Source: field in the control file |
| 07:00.55 | YoG | ah ok, thanx |
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| 07:03.12 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r43f0c625... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:03.12 | CIA-4 | keymaps: fixed tosa/2.6 keymap - close #1500 and partially #1498 |
| 07:03.12 | CIA-4 | - Fn+Space = bar like it is on keyboard (part of #1498) |
| 07:03.12 | CIA-4 | - 'bullseye' (center of ring) = space (close #1500) |
| 07:03.12 | CIA-4 | - Fn+z is no longer bar |
| 07:04.13 | woglinde | hm frist bugday? |
| 07:04.18 | woglinde | first |
| 07:05.35 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r2d8c7644... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:05.35 | CIA-4 | keymaps: fixed tosa/2.6 keymap - close #1500 and partially #1498 (from .dev) |
| 07:05.35 | CIA-4 | - Fn+Space = bar like it is on keyboard (part of #1498) |
| 07:05.35 | CIA-4 | - 'bullseye' (center of ring) = space (close #1500) |
| 07:05.35 | CIA-4 | - Fn+z is no longer bar |
| 07:05.36 | CIA-4 | applied changes from 649af75f6b16159321cf1119882aba851afe11be .dev |
| 07:05.38 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:38.16 | Genesis | yop |
| 07:43.59 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r46e19d94... 10/ (12 files in 2 dirs): gtk+: add ttf-dejavu-sans to RRECOMMENDS, otherwise applications requiring fonts will crash |
| 07:44.45 | B_Lizzard | IceWM should have some kind of font added |
| 07:45.03 | B_Lizzard | Cause otherwise it displays empty boxes |
| 07:45.18 | koen | patches welcome |
| 07:45.22 | B_Lizzard | Sure |
| 07:45.57 | B_Lizzard | I like the fact that IceWM doesn't depend on X though :) |
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| 07:49.35 | B_Lizzard | Is RDEPENDS or RRECOMMENDS more appropriate? |
| 07:50.07 | B_Lizzard | As far as I know, IceWM can't be usable without a font |
| 07:50.15 | B_Lizzard | But it can be used |
| 07:51.58 | B_Lizzard | How do I push changes upstream? |
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| 07:53.33 | XorA | morning |
| 07:53.53 | B_Lizzard | Good Morning |
| 08:00.22 | koen | B_Lizzard: bugtracker |
| 08:00.24 | koen | hey XorA |
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| 08:02.02 | koen | use 2.6.17 and xfs |
| 08:02.03 | XorA | hey florian_kc |
| 08:02.19 | XorA | koen: isnt that the FS that hrw keeps losing files on? |
| 08:02.29 | florian_kc | hi |
| 08:02.35 | koen | XorA: 2.6.17 has a huge xfs bug |
| 08:02.40 | koen | XorA: a very fast delete :) |
| 08:05.19 | koen | XorA: on linux, yes :) |
| 08:05.36 | XorA | or is that deathrowFS |
| 08:06.51 | B_Lizzard | Not quite yet |
| 08:07.00 | B_Lizzard | He is innocent, as of yet |
| 08:08.23 | hrw|work | morning |
| 08:08.31 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 08:08.33 | Kevin` | morning |
| 08:09.55 | XorA | B_Lizzard: thought youd been told, everyone is guilty until proved innocent |
| 08:10.29 | B_Lizzard | Well, I didn't expect a kind of spanish inqusition! |
| 08:10.32 | koen | just say "terrorist" and you don't need any trials anymore in the US |
| 08:10.58 | B_Lizzard | Aye, koen is pretty much right about that |
| 08:11.36 | B_Lizzard | Koen, do I submit the whole .bb file, or a patch containing the changes? |
| 08:11.51 | koen | patch, as attachment, not inline |
| 08:11.57 | B_Lizzard | Aye |
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| 08:13.22 | likewise | good morning all |
| 08:13.36 | florian_kc | hi likewise |
| 08:13.50 | B_Lizzard | likewise |
| 08:14.00 | likewise | florian_kc: hi florian, B_Lizzard |
| 08:15.07 | likewise | koen: I had this crazy idea of bitbake adapting the "alldepends.dot" file to colour the nodes during the build, so that one can graphically see the build progress. Cool nah? |
| 08:15.28 | XorA | quick someone add another .dd, we are less than 4000 |
| 08:15.34 | XorA | s/dd/bb/ |
| 08:15.41 | likewise | helloworld.bb |
| 08:15.46 | likewise | byebyeworld.bb |
| 08:15.53 | likewise | 4000.bb? |
| 08:17.09 | koen | likewise: I had that idea as well :) |
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| 08:17.33 | koen | likewise: but on a webpage with googlemaps like scrolling |
| 08:17.47 | likewise | koen: you didn't apply for a patent did you? |
| 08:18.28 | koen | :) |
| 08:18.40 | likewise | koen: this would probably be a bbclass, that adds some pre/post tasks right? |
| 08:18.56 | likewise | koen: BitTube.com :-) |
| 08:19.25 | likewise | already exists... nm |
| 08:19.31 | koen | likewise: I think it would be a bitbake module |
| 08:20.12 | likewise | koen: a bitbake module plugs into bitbake? so, in the bitbake sources? |
| 08:20.24 | koen | yes |
| 08:20.56 | XorA | likewise: pornobake.com |
| 08:21.30 | likewise | XorA: probably Google won't buy it then :-) |
| 08:21.45 | XorA | likewise: dont google own flickr? |
| 08:21.59 | koen | XorA: that's yahoo |
| 08:22.12 | XorA | ah, thats why seaching for cats works so well |
| 08:24.15 | RP | morning all |
| 08:24.28 | XorA | hey rp |
| 08:24.51 | koen | RP: what license is stage-manager? MIT? |
| 08:26.18 | florian_kc | hey RP |
| 08:27.38 | florian_kc | RP: should devmand be started with the current zaurusd code? |
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| 08:28.54 | likewise | RP: good morning |
| 08:32.09 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3dae7e8b... 10/ (8 files in 5 dirs): packaged-staging: add a recipe for stage-manager and DEPENDS on it |
| 08:32.44 | hrw|work | koen: nice |
| 08:32.51 | hrw|work | hi [cc]smart RP |
| 08:34.53 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5668d8e4... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): packaged-staging.bbclass: update instructions |
| 08:35.14 | RP | florian_kc: yes, that was the intention. I've just not had time to do it |
| 08:35.16 | koen | hrw|work: now it's 33% easier to use ;) |
| 08:35.52 | RP | koen: I should probably GPL(v2) it I guess |
| 08:36.24 | florian_kc | RP: what a well known problem ;) |
| 08:36.25 | koen | RP: could you add that to the file itself? |
| 08:36.37 | RP | koen: will do |
| 08:36.56 | koen | thanks |
| 08:42.57 | koen | hrw|work: http://msevior.livejournal.com/12752.html |
| 08:46.45 | B_Lizzard | I filed the "bug report" |
| 08:46.50 | B_Lizzard | I hope it's allright |
| 08:47.06 | B_Lizzard | I used to be a virgin |
| 08:47.08 | B_Lizzard | BUT NO LONGER! |
| 08:54.53 | RP | koen: no inherit native? |
| 08:57.10 | koen | RP: I wanted as less dependencies as possible |
| 08:57.19 | CIA-4 | 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * re6c1fd77... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): stage-manager: Add copyright + licence, improve .bb file |
| 08:57.36 | RP | koen: Without it, it will end up in the wrong bindir |
| 08:57.46 | koen | you'll also notice it's using do_install instead of do_stage |
| 08:57.55 | koen | RP: there is only one bindir... |
| 08:58.17 | koen | STAGING_BINDIR = "${STAGING_DIR}/${BUILD_SYS}/bin" |
| 08:59.45 | RP | koen: right, I probably just broke it... |
| 09:00.10 | koen | native.bbclass looks pretty harmless |
| 09:00.17 | koen | and it does strip of PACKAGE_DEPENDS :) |
| 09:00.27 | koen | s/of/off/ |
| 09:00.57 | RP | koen: At some point, I'd like to see OE using an arch independent bin dir for scripts like this |
| 09:01.09 | koen | yes |
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| 09:03.06 | koen | hey zecke |
| 09:03.30 | zecke | ho |
| 09:03.34 | hrw|work | hi zecke |
| 09:04.22 | koen | RP: the problem now is how to handle our patched ipkg-build |
| 09:04.41 | koen | RP: since it will break the ipkg-collateral package iirc |
| 09:06.03 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r56d82178... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): stage-manager: correct PV |
| 09:15.03 | RP | koen: I'm not sure exactly what changes you had to make to it... |
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| 09:17.05 | likewise | zecke: hi zecke |
| 09:17.55 | zecke | likewise: hey |
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| 09:22.30 | koen | RP: ignore /usr/lib/ipkg |
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| 09:24.27 | zecke | no feedback on bonsai |
| 09:26.32 | likewise | zecke: I think I have fixed icecc.bbclass to the point that it works. Could you care to commit? |
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| 09:28.32 | likewise | Push me: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1477 |
| 09:29.11 | hrw|work | likewise: attach recipes, not inline |
| 09:29.22 | CIA-4 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf772c2cf... 10/ (1 packages/stage-manager/stagemanager-native_0.0.1.bb): stage-manager: fixed typo in inherit |
| 09:29.29 | RP | zecke: FWIW, I think its useful |
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| 09:30.08 | hrw|work | likewise: The requested URL /archives/cairo/attachments/20061013/5c1e044a/librsvg-clip.bin;patch=1;pnum=0 was not found on this server. |
| 09:30.17 | hrw|work | ops.. |
| 09:30.36 | zecke | koen: tinderbox has now proper license headers |
| 09:30.43 | koen | zecke: awesome |
| 09:30.44 | zecke | koen: LTG must send a postcard to me now |
| 09:31.23 | RP | zecke: The only thing that I couldn't get to work was looking at a list of files in the root directory of a given repository |
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| 09:32.09 | zecke | RP: that is tricky |
| 09:32.10 | likewise | hrw|work: what is the recommended root directory for diffs? Should I be outside or inside the branch directory? |
| 09:32.31 | koen | likewise: 'mtn diff' ? |
| 09:32.47 | hrw|work | likewise: for me you can just attach recipe file. |
| 09:33.30 | zecke | RP: I will need to handle paths better, e.g. with svn they start with '/', with mtn not |
| 09:35.09 | hrw|work | ERROR: Exception:bb.MalformedUrl Message:${GPE_SVN} |
| 09:35.10 | hrw|work | ERROR: Printing the environment of the function |
| 09:35.10 | hrw|work | ERROR: ${GPE_SVN} while parsing /home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded/packages/gpesyncd/gpesyncd_svn.bb |
| 09:35.13 | hrw|work | hmm.. |
| 09:36.38 | zecke | hrw|work: update bitbake.conf? |
| 09:36.42 | koen | NOTE: package gpesyncd-0.0+svn20061017-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 09:36.42 | zecke | oh GPE_SVN? lol |
| 09:37.30 | hrw|work | zecke: updated repo to head |
| 09:37.30 | zecke | koen: could you reload apache again |
| 09:38.02 | koen | done |
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| 09:44.23 | zecke | koen: which django did you use |
| 09:44.27 | zecke | pb_: HEY!!! |
| 09:44.44 | hrw|work | hi Phil |
| 09:44.52 | koen | zecke: the one from the tarball link you gave me |
| 09:45.02 | pb_ | hi hrw|work |
| 09:45.04 | pb_ | hail zecke |
| 09:45.14 | pb_ | hail mickeyl |
| 09:45.25 | zecke | koen: +patch? |
| 09:45.58 | koen | zecke: I explained to you yesterday I can't morally justify applying that patch since it's tainted |
| 09:46.08 | zecke | koen: why is it tainted? |
| 09:46.34 | koen | I explained that yesterday and I'm not going to repeat myself |
| 09:46.55 | hrw|work | ERROR: name 'get_kernelversion' is not defined while parsing /home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/xanadux-un-2.6_2.6.12.bb |
| 09:47.02 | hrw|work | did not we get rid of it? |
| 09:47.32 | XorA | pb_: howdee |
| 09:47.35 | zecke | koen: no, you didn't |
| 09:47.50 | mickeyl | pb_!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:48.06 | mickeyl | pb_: good to see you! How has life been to you? |
| 09:48.10 | mickeyl | morning btw. |
| 09:49.07 | hrw|work | koen: ERROR: upwards chain is: dnsmasq (dnsmasq) -> ipkg-utils-native (ipkg-utils-native) -> quilt-native (quilt-native) -> stagemanager-native (stagemanager-native) |
| 09:49.25 | koen | que? |
| 09:49.32 | koen | it has inhibit_default_deps set |
| 09:49.44 | likewise | checking for libiconv_open in -liconv... no |
| 09:49.45 | likewise | | configure: error: *** No iconv() implementation found in C library or libiconv |
| 09:50.42 | pb_ | mickeyl: pretty good, thanks. how are you? |
| 09:52.26 | hrw|work | koen: I use bitbake 1.6 |
| 09:52.38 | koen | hrw|work: I don't |
| 09:52.55 | hrw|work | koen: p-s does not warn that it need trunk... |
| 09:52.58 | mickeyl | pb_: busy, but pretty good as well. submitted my thesis (finally), waiting for the advisory board to come up with an appointment for the public defense now. started a freelancer career and I'm working on the first project atm. |
| 09:53.25 | hrw|work | Super Secret Project (TM) |
| 09:53.28 | koen | hrw|work: it seems that bitbake trunk is broken, since INHIBIT_DEFAULT_DEPS = "1" should work |
| 09:53.28 | mickeyl | hehe |
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| 09:54.18 | zecke | mickeyl: you scared him away |
| 09:54.23 | mickeyl | darn |
| 09:54.27 | zecke | mickeyl: or pb_ == lrg |
| 09:54.33 | hrw|work | SSP has some known features but we would be forced to write NDA if I would tell which :D |
| 09:54.36 | hrw|work | hi liam |
| 09:54.54 | florian_kc | zecke: unlikely ;) |
| 09:55.17 | lrg | morning all |
| 09:55.30 | koen | hey lrg |
| 09:55.30 | likewise | hrw|work: Cell SSP? |
| 09:55.59 | koen | Super Secret Project |
| 09:56.12 | florian_kc | hi lrg |
| 09:57.15 | hrw|work | likewise: social engineering makes miracles... blah, blah, blah, it will have bt, blah,blah,blah,no irda, blah, blah.. |
| 09:58.15 | XorA | zecke: now Im scared, we have submarines pb_s |
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| 10:00.05 | lrg | anyone interested in mmx2 support in ARM ? |
| 10:00.38 | koen | lrg: has intel finally bribed you? |
| 10:01.28 | lrg | koen: no, there's a public patch for gcc now |
| 10:01.45 | hrw|work | koen: building stagemanager-native with !empty staging fails |
| 10:02.10 | hrw|work | koen: http://pastebin.ca/206236 |
| 10:02.56 | lrg | koen: I've got a Zylonite board now |
| 10:03.53 | koen | zylonite? |
| 10:04.07 | koen | lrg: which SoC's support mmx2? |
| 10:04.24 | pb_ | hi lrg |
| 10:04.42 | lrg | koen: Monahans, zylonite is the ref board |
| 10:04.46 | lrg | hey pb_ |
| 10:05.01 | koen | lrg: ah, right |
| 10:05.11 | koen | lrg: I bet you ads is still faster |
| 10:06.35 | lrg | koen: i think so, probably because it has VFP |
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| 10:11.07 | zecke | pb_: we have missed you! |
| 10:12.40 | pb_ | zecke: heh, I have missed you too |
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| 10:14.49 | zecke | :) |
| 10:15.10 | hrw|work | dpkg-deb: building package `openembedded' in `../openembedded_1.0-1_i386.deb'. |
| 10:16.48 | zecke | hrw|work: i386 as arch? not any/all? |
| 10:17.00 | hrw|work | zecke: will be all |
| 10:17.12 | hrw|work | dpkg-deb: building package `openembedded' in `../openembedded_1.0-1_all.deb'. |
| 10:22.03 | koen | hrw|work: what does that .deb do? |
| 10:22.44 | hrw|work | koen: Depends: python, ccache, build-essential, patch, m4, sed, bison, wget | curl, bzip2, cvs, gawk, subversion, coreutils, quilt, unzip, texi2html, texinfo, git-core, monotone Recommends: python-psyco |
| 10:23.18 | koen | hrw|work: so it's more like openembedded-requirements_1.0-1_all.deb |
| 10:23.22 | zecke | http://gcov.php.net/ |
| 10:23.25 | hrw|work | koen: yep |
| 10:23.28 | zecke | this looks interesting |
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| 10:33.22 | likewise | hrw|work: nice |
| 10:34.32 | likewise | hrw: consider calling it openembedded-essential.deb |
| 10:34.50 | likewise | hrw: conforming to "build-essential" in debian (alike) OSs |
| 10:35.15 | koen | gnu-openembedded-essential |
| 10:36.15 | hrw|work | ok |
| 10:42.01 | CIA-4 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc7455782... 10/ (1 packages/xoo/xoo_svn.bb): xoo svn add missing dependencies to gtk+ and libglade |
| 10:44.01 | RP | wb pb_ |
| 10:44.41 | zecke | RSS works again :) |
| 10:46.30 | mickeyl | RP,zecke: did you get my mail about bitbake versioning problem? |
| 10:46.42 | RP | mickeyl: Yes. It looks very broken :-( |
| 10:46.55 | mickeyl | ok, thanks for confirming that. i started to worry about it being a local thing here |
| 10:47.07 | pb_ | hi rp |
| 10:47.15 | RP | mickeyl: I haven't reproduced but its certainly a bug |
| 10:48.14 | mickeyl | zecke: what's the state of making inherit behave like require? |
| 10:48.27 | mickeyl | zecke: are we still in discussion mode or should we just do it(tm)? :) |
| 10:48.49 | RP | mickeyl: My personal opinion is do it |
| 10:50.08 | RP | mickeyl: One question - when you say that gtk+ issue, what was the PREFERRED_VERSION of gtk+ ? |
| 10:50.16 | RP | s/say/saw/ |
| 10:50.38 | mickeyl | RP: it wasn't set |
| 10:50.56 | RP | mickeyl: You're 100% sure about that? |
| 10:50.59 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 10:51.05 | mickeyl | need to check |
| 10:51.10 | mickeyl | *booting workstation* |
| 10:51.11 | RP | mickeyl: If PREFERRED_VERSION was 2.8.x, bitbake would be doing the right thing in its mind |
| 10:51.33 | RP | Although we probably should error in that case, at least until we get packaged staging |
| 10:51.42 | mickeyl | hmm, you _could_ be right |
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| 10:52.10 | mickeyl | it's possible that forced gtk+ 2.10.3 to be built initially by bitbake gtk+-2.10.3 |
| 10:52.17 | mickeyl | and on the 2nd run it "upgraded" to 2.8.x then |
| 10:52.21 | mickeyl | let me try to reproduce |
| 10:52.33 | mickeyl | s/that/that I/ |
| 10:55.24 | mickeyl | ehm |
| 10:55.27 | mickeyl | hah |
| 10:55.35 | mickeyl | gtk+2.10.3 contains DEFAULT_PREFERENCE=-1 |
| 10:55.45 | mickeyl | that explains it |
| 10:56.32 | RP | mickeyl: right. Its a confusing message though. "upgrading" sould really be "replacing" |
| 10:58.02 | hrw|work | openembedded-essential_1.0-1_all.deb |
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| 11:09.07 | psokolovsky | Hi! |
| 11:09.26 | koen | hey psokolovsky |
| 11:09.44 | psokolovsky | koen: Sorry about h5xxx stuff. About overrides I didn't think at that time ;-(( |
| 11:10.22 | psokolovsky | koen, but looking at that it uses 2.6 kernel which is not yet production ready IIRC, I thought that at least no distro uses it currently. |
| 11:10.54 | psokolovsky | koen, I'll post RFC to the list and prepare more careful patch, and test it. |
| 11:11.05 | zecke | hrw|work: master of web? how do I write a simple query (without form)? |
| 11:11.35 | zecke | hrw|work: I want a user to enter a name in a textbox and then select query |
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| 11:15.30 | koen | ~botmail for psokolovsky: http://angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/20061012/h5xxx/ |
| 11:16.13 | hrw|work | ~lart rpm-howto for 1999 |
| 11:16.17 | hrw|work | zecke: you need form |
| 11:16.26 | zecke | hrw|work: or javascript? |
| 11:16.36 | zecke | hrw|work: can I format an <a link with java script? ;) |
| 11:16.58 | zecke | hrw|work: If I use form, I will handle post, then I can create a really complex form |
| 11:20.24 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r015d8066... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): hx4700.conf: hx4700<hyphen>acx, not hx4700<underscore>acx |
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| 11:22.16 | hrw|work | zecke: form can be get |
| 11:22.22 | hrw|work | <form method='get'> |
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| 11:25.20 | hrw|work | I wonder how people are able to use rpm to build sourceless packages |
| 11:25.43 | mickeyl | sourceless? |
| 11:25.45 | koen | hrw|work: probably by using cpio directly |
| 11:25.53 | koen | mickeyl: pure metapackages |
| 11:25.58 | mickeyl | ah |
| 11:27.11 | hrw|work | you need to provide Source0: |
| 11:27.15 | hrw|work | you need to provide Patch0: |
| 11:27.24 | hrw|work | etc.. |
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| 11:30.13 | psokolovsky | stupid udhcpc. DoSes me because ISP's router gone mad |
| 11:30.21 | psokolovsky | koen: ok |
| 11:30.27 | rwhitby | Hmm - OE is no longer buildable on Debian Sarge. |
| 11:30.36 | rwhitby | eno: Couldn't find package git-core |
| 11:31.02 | rwhitby | why is OE sanity requiring git now? |
| 11:31.16 | psokolovsky | koen: Btw, could you please still post/refresh summary of EABI support on non-armv5 devices? http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2006-October/000584.html |
| 11:32.03 | koen | psokolovsky: gcc is still broken, since we are still using the same version |
| 11:32.27 | zecke | koen: updating gcc would fix stuff? |
| 11:32.38 | koen | zecke: no, fixing gcc would fix it |
| 11:32.46 | psokolovsky | koen, But will armv4 (thumb-less in general) devices support EABI? |
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| 11:33.02 | koen | psokolovsky: only in theory |
| 11:33.16 | koen | psokolovsky: armv4t is as low as EABI goes |
| 11:33.28 | koen | psokolovsky: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort |
| 11:34.20 | psokolovsky | koen: Thanks, rereading it. |
| 11:35.40 | hrw|work | ~lart rpm |
| 11:35.58 | hrw|work | looks like newest rpm manuals are from 2002 |
| 11:37.22 | psokolovsky | Anyway, has anyone used OE to build for Samsung S3Cxxx CPUs? I bet yes, as there's h1940 for example. But no tune-*.inc for it. Anyone has an idea? |
| 11:37.52 | psokolovsky | hrw|work, last I heard, RPM is unmaintained, lol |
| 11:38.16 | koen | psokolovsky: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/description/s3c/ |
| 11:39.00 | psokolovsky | yeah, too little |
| 11:39.15 | koen | psokolovsky: http://www.openembedded.org/bonsai/query/description/smdk244/ |
| 11:39.35 | zecke | koen: hmm why is RSS broken again :} |
| 11:39.54 | koen | zecke: no idea |
| 11:40.12 | koen | zecke: I didn't change anything |
| 11:40.25 | zecke | koen: hehe ;) |
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| 11:40.32 | zecke | koen: RSS for desc is not implemented |
| 11:40.34 | XorA | psokolovsky: me |
| 11:40.42 | infoclog | has anyone worked with U-Boot before ? |
| 11:40.43 | XorA | psokolovsky: linux-smdk2440.bb is in there |
| 11:40.44 | psokolovsky | XorA: Hello, any hints regarding gcc -m flags for S3Cxxx CPUs? |
| 11:40.59 | psokolovsky | XorA: I see, nice! |
| 11:41.25 | XorA | psokolovsky: -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t |
| 11:41.42 | koen | like tune-arm920t does? |
| 11:41.50 | XorA | koen: tune-arm920t is wrong |
| 11:41.57 | infoclog | i am trying to develop loader.bin and U-boot.bin for AT91rm9200 from a linux-x86 PC. Can anyone guide me ? |
| 11:42.05 | mickeyl | can we fix tune-arm920t then? |
| 11:42.06 | zecke | Failed to start message bus: Failed to read directory "/space/kde/install//etc/dbus-1/${prefix}/share/dbus-1/services": |
| 11:42.10 | koen | XorA: fix it :) |
| 11:42.10 | zecke | dbus is so stupid |
| 11:42.20 | psokolovsky | XorA, ok, thanks! ok to create tune-s3cXXX.conf or something? |
| 11:42.40 | XorA | psokolovsky: I shall commit fixed tune-arm920t I had forgotten I fixed it locally |
| 11:42.59 | psokolovsky | XorA, ok. So, use it then, right? |
| 11:45.17 | XorA | psokolovsky: you on the smdk2440 board? |
| 11:45.42 | psokolovsky | XorA, nope, my whole interest is in consumer devices, like pocketpc's ;-) |
| 11:46.16 | psokolovsky | XorA, I'd like to annotate h1940.conf with needed optmizations and add rx3000.conf. both are ipaq models on S3Cxxx. |
| 11:46.17 | XorA | psokolovsky: just pushed that fix |
| 11:46.23 | psokolovsky | XorA, thanks |
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| 11:50.34 | XorA | whhich Ipaq would Zaurus 3200 by most like in terms of physical size |
| 11:51.50 | XorA | ~lart yum |
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| 11:59.15 | psokolovsky | XorA, if I kept in my cache what Z 3200 is... ;-) lemme look up. |
| 12:00.22 | psokolovsky | XorA, well, no ipaq like that at all. no modern clamshell models with kbd from known US or EU based brands. |
| 12:00.55 | XorA | psokolovsky: No, I just need to know will my Z fit in a Ipaq sized hole when closed :-) |
| 12:01.01 | psokolovsky | XorA, of VGA ipaqs and pocketpc, only hx4700 has good kernel support (and yes, it's one of most active pocketpc ports at all) |
| 12:01.45 | psokolovsky | XorA, gotcha! Any ipaq would make Z-brick in terms of size and weight ;-P |
| 12:03.10 | [lala] | hi guys |
| 12:03.10 | psokolovsky | XorA, coolest pocketpc device now (gsm-less) is acer n311, which packs VGA in h1900/h4000 case (that's small and cute). it's S3 too, btw |
| 12:03.52 | [lala] | how can i debug what exactly the fetcher is doing? i have the problem, that the zlib_1.2.3.bb doesn't use one of the mirrors for downloading :-( |
| 12:04.19 | [lala] | that's pretty bad for me since i don't have any outside network connection on my build machine |
| 12:05.31 | den-ros | psokolovsky: Acer not good enough, also i has FS C550 - it is good, but hx4700 best. |
| 12:06.05 | den-ros | XorA: 'wants waterproof case' - like this http://www.teleology.ru/files/hx4700/cover01.png :) |
| 12:06.37 | XorA | den-ros: not quite as cyberpunk/subsea looking as that |
| 12:06.44 | XorA | den-ros: :-D |
| 12:06.55 | psokolovsky | den-ros, lol. acer should be good, but not with wince ;-). It has GoForce chip at least ;-). FS expensive, hx4700 is brick. anyway, OT here. |
| 12:07.34 | den-ros | XorA: But if you falldown from bicycle - hx4700 did not broke :P |
| 12:07.47 | psokolovsky | den-ros, I bet, that's some palm T inside, and for sure not hx ;-) |
| 12:08.38 | den-ros | psokolovsky: I hear, that this casemodel support hx4700. |
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| 12:09.53 | den-ros | psokolovsky: waite a little, i find an article, where explain, why Acer not good enough even without WinCE. |
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| 12:10.41 | psokolovsky | den-ros, yeah, just picking on ;-). Well-known cases anyway. XorA: maybe "aquapac" cases will be good for you, ask google. |
| 12:13.19 | koen | XorA: iirc the 3200 is roughly the size of 2 stacked hx4700s |
| 12:14.56 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r2acba65c... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tune-arm920t.conf): |
| 12:14.57 | CIA-4 | conf/machine/include/tune-arm920t.conf : fix so that -march and -mcpu arent |
| 12:14.57 | CIA-4 | confilivting. THis caused all -Werror compiled programs to fail. |
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| 12:25.38 | [lala] | can noone comment on my mirror question above? |
| 12:29.04 | hrw|work | [lala]: zlib fetch from zlib.net which does not has mirrors defined iirc |
| 12:33.30 | [lala] | hrw|work: shouldn't the fetcher always try at least the fallback mirrors, e.g. oesources.org? |
| 12:34.12 | [lala] | it works perfectly for instance for qemu |
| 12:34.16 | zecke | [lala]: oesources.org is defunct :) |
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| 12:34.31 | zecke | [lala]: but yes, see the last two lines in MIRRORS in base.bbclass |
| 12:34.50 | psokolovsky | Koen: Can you comment: "Thumb interworking requires every return and indirect function call execute BX instruction (or LDR/LDM on armv5t) to set the core to the correct state." I guess, ity's typo there, should be "LDR/LDM on armv4t", right? |
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| 12:35.18 | [lala] | zecke: well, it doesn't even TRY to use the last two lines - that's my point actually! |
| 12:35.47 | zecke | oh well they wouldn't work anyway :) |
| 12:35.53 | koen | psokolovsky: ehm, I'm an arm asm noob |
| 12:36.01 | psokolovsky | ok |
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| 12:36.05 | zecke | feel free to take a look at lib/bb/fetch/wget.py |
| 12:36.08 | [lala] | zecke: i have a local mirror for the stuff and i want bitbake to use it |
| 12:36.18 | [lala] | but it doesnt in all cases as it seems |
| 12:36.39 | [lala] | i have, but i don't speak python very well and i don't understand the code entirely |
| 12:37.02 | zecke | [lala]: add 'print's until you know what is going on :) |
| 12:37.19 | [lala] | i give it a shot |
| 12:38.47 | zecke | :) |
| 12:39.00 | zecke | I'm still busy flashing devices |
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| 12:47.02 | woglinde | re |
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| 12:47.53 | zecke | wb woglinde |
| 12:49.27 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 12:49.52 | woglinde | he |
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| 13:01.19 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8b3a67cc... 10/ (9 files in 7 dirs): gpe-scap: replace gpe-screenshot and update metadata accordingly |
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| 13:09.34 | hrw|work | koen: you removed gpe-screenshot from metadata? |
| 13:09.58 | koen | yes |
| 13:10.08 | hrw|work | why? maybe I like it... |
| 13:10.18 | koen | gpe-scap does exactly the same |
| 13:10.32 | koen | but with less bugs |
| 13:12.01 | koen | gpe-screenshot isn't allowed to be part of gpe anymore, so the gpe people forked it and fixed some bugs |
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| 13:22.38 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/10/17/rpm-is-really-poorly-maintained/ |
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| 13:24.33 | florian_kc | Did anyone get mail from one of the hh.org lists lately? |
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| 13:25.59 | scx | H |
| 13:26.05 | scx | Hello everyone |
| 13:26.12 | XorA | hi scx |
| 13:26.25 | XorA | scx: were you invited by Liam? |
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| 13:26.39 | scx | Yes |
| 13:26.49 | XorA | scx: cool, I am Graeme, I work with him |
| 13:26.54 | XorA | lrg: wake up |
| 13:27.06 | scx | Hello Graeme |
| 13:27.07 | XorA | scx: he is talking to someone at moment, Ill give him a nudge |
| 13:29.00 | psokolovsky | florian_kc, seems, hh.org lists are stuck again. couldn't catch france on irc too. |
| 13:29.26 | florian_kc | hey wookey |
| 13:29.53 | lrg | hey Stanley |
| 13:30.15 | koen | hey scx |
| 13:30.28 | chouimat | morning |
| 13:30.37 | lrg | scx: is the mmx2 patch now in gcc ? |
| 13:31.23 | scx | lrg: O...yes. Actually it is in binutils. |
| 13:31.36 | koen | scx: stanley from pxa-linux.sf.net? |
| 13:31.45 | scx | yes. |
| 13:32.00 | scx | I and my team are building the project |
| 13:32.12 | lrg | scx: ah, is it in an official release yet ? |
| 13:32.41 | florian_kc | psokolovsky: nasty... |
| 13:32.55 | scx | I can double check it. A codesourcery guy helped us to do it |
| 13:34.23 | Crofton | what is the mmx2 patch? |
| 13:34.30 | lrg | scx: have you tried building MPlayer with it ? |
| 13:35.06 | lrg | Crofton: new mmx instruction support for ARM |
| 13:35.19 | Crofton | This interests me |
| 13:35.33 | koen | scx: did you test lennert's iwmmxt patch yet? |
| 13:35.37 | scx | mmx2 is Intel's Wireless Multimedia accelerator coprocessor |
| 13:35.53 | scx | You may hear of MMX in IA world |
| 13:36.02 | Crofton | yeah |
| 13:36.19 | scx | iwmmxt kernel patch? |
| 13:36.22 | Crofton | My real job involves software defined radio |
| 13:36.28 | koen | scx: yes |
| 13:36.59 | Crofton | is there a web page describing the mmx2 work? |
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| 13:37.39 | XorA | koen: that patch on lkaml do we have that? |
| 13:38.13 | koen | XorA: If I read it right, that patch should be part of glibc 2.4 |
| 13:38.36 | scx | koen: not yet. Fengwei is doing it. |
| 13:39.02 | scx | We published the mmx2 spec. You can find the link in pxa-linux.sf.net |
| 13:39.07 | koen | scx: any idea when xscale3 documentation will become public? |
| 13:39.22 | psokolovsky | koen, 2.5 you mean? |
| 13:39.34 | koen | psokolovsky: right, sorry |
| 13:39.41 | scx | I am working hard to make it happen |
| 13:39.56 | koen | scx: thanks |
| 13:40.30 | lrg | scx: we could probably do some OE recipies for Monahans when it's public :) |
| 13:40.31 | scx | No problem. I am going to work for Marvell, which acquired our department. ;( |
| 13:40.49 | scx | lrg:Yes, absolutely. |
| 13:41.29 | lrg | scx: I can make a start to some in the near future, as soon as my bsp arrives :) |
| 13:41.41 | scx | lrg: I am working to make our team more friendly and open to the open source community. |
| 13:42.05 | lrg | scx: your doing a good job. :) |
| 13:42.18 | scx | Monahans, you know, now PRQed. the product name is PXA320. |
| 13:43.00 | lrg | scx: ah, it's been called several things in the past, i.e. pxa280, pxa290, pxa300, |
| 13:43.45 | scx | yes. :D. a lot of changes there. |
| 13:43.48 | XorA | A320, the Airbus that falls out of the sky :-) |
| 13:43.59 | lrg | heh |
| 13:44.05 | scx | hehe |
| 13:44.55 | lrg | koen: btw, there are some mmx2 docs on the pxa linux page |
| 13:46.00 | lrg | scx: did you speak with RP about the new MMC drivers yet ? |
| 13:46.46 | scx | koen: when we upgraded our tool chain from GCC 3.4.3 to GCC 4.x, we found some calling conventions are changed. |
| 13:46.55 | scx | lrg: no. |
| 13:47.05 | scx | RP: hello |
| 13:51.24 | koen | XorA: http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/ports/ChangeLog.arm?rev=1.53&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=glibc |
| 13:54.48 | koen | scx: I have EABI + iwmmxt running quite nice on a pxa270: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/hx4700.JPG |
| 13:55.04 | koen | XorA: we could add that patch for glibc 2.4, make glibc 2.4 use the ports/ from 2.5, or use 2.5 :) |
| 13:55.37 | lrg | scx: do you or Fengwei have any plans to attend FOSDEM next year in Brussels ? |
| 13:55.59 | scx | lrg: what's FOSDEM? |
| 13:56.48 | lrg | scx: http://www.fosdem.org/ - there should be a lot of pxa hackers in attendance |
| 13:57.10 | koen | although the site is not being very helpfull right now :( |
| 13:57.18 | Crofton | when is it? |
| 13:57.27 | koen | februari |
| 13:57.58 | koen | the fosdem embedded room dude is in #oe as well: Philippe |
| 13:58.10 | Crofton | any idea what dates? |
| 13:59.07 | koen | iirc 24 and 25 februari |
| 13:59.09 | lrg | Crofton: iirc it was late Feb, and over a weekend |
| 13:59.37 | RP | scx: hi! |
| 13:59.44 | scx | RP: hi |
| 14:00.56 | scx | lrg: I can try to get a VISA to Swiss. Tomorrow I have to go to AMchant for US VISA. :( |
| 14:02.11 | scx | RP: we made a little bit enhancment on MMC infrastructure. I am talking with Pierre Ossman. |
| 14:02.18 | koen | Crofton: FOSDEM is listed in http://openembedded.org/ical/oe-events.ics :) |
| 14:03.03 | RP | scx: For reference, I've done a fair bit of work on the pxa2xx support in mainline and maintain the Sharp Zaurus (pxa) kernels in mainline linux. I've been watching the new chip with interest |
| 14:03.13 | scx | RP: I would like to invite you (of course, all guys in the channel, in the community) to review the design and code. and give us some feedbacks. We try to push it the kernel. |
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| 14:04.37 | lrg | scx: I assume it should also work on pxa25x and pxa27x ? |
| 14:05.26 | scx | lrg: I ported to pxa27x. |
| 14:05.47 | hrw|work | pxa27x hardware is capable of 4bit sd? |
| 14:06.31 | RP | scx: I was part of the group that got SD support into the mainline kernel. I presume the link you mentioned on LAKML is still the most up to date reference? |
| 14:06.37 | Crofton | for FOSDEM, looks like I would have to wait until last minute to see if airfare is sane |
| 14:07.52 | RP | hrw|work: yes, the pxa27x hardware can do 4 bit |
| 14:08.29 | mccarthy | hi koen |
| 14:09.03 | koen | hey Professor mccarthy |
| 14:09.44 | scx | RP: I will update it this week.We got better block device driver. ;) |
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| 14:11.27 | mccarthy | koen, not in #gpe anymore these days? |
| 14:11.48 | koen | nope |
| 14:11.58 | Crofton | hmm, how hard to get from Amsterdam to Brussels? |
| 14:12.00 | koen | although florian keeps pushing me to join it :) |
| 14:12.24 | koen | Crofton: train to rotterdam and then straight to brussels with another |
| 14:12.47 | Crofton | about how much? |
| 14:13.19 | mccarthy | anyone know what MACHINE I should be using to build familiar-unstable for an h5xxx? I tried, surprisingly, "h5xxx", but it seems to insist on building a 2.6 kernel; then I remembered that familiar always releases jffs2 images for the h5xxx that are *named* h3900 (so I presume I need to use that MACHINE, but I would guess I need to change the necessary modules) |
| 14:13.35 | scx | RP: About SD spec, the SDA says “any implementatioon may require a license from SDA" |
| 14:13.50 | koen | Crofton: actually it's only one train :) |
| 14:14.03 | mccarthy | seems pb has disappeared as well; related incidents? or coincidence? |
| 14:14.20 | scx | RP: English is not my mother Language. I can not understand their disclaimer and notice very well. |
| 14:14.48 | XorA | pb ate koen and fell ill |
| 14:14.53 | RP | scx: I can't see how they could enforce that without patenting it and its not patented (otherwise we'd actually know how it works!) |
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| 14:15.07 | koen | Crofton: €66.70 for amsterdam -> brussels |
| 14:15.32 | hrw|work | ~change 234 pln to eur |
| 14:15.52 | koen | Crofton: including the trip back |
| 14:16.02 | Crofton | hmm |
| 14:16.13 | RP | scx: Also, at least some of the specifications were opened up |
| 14:16.24 | Crofton | that is about $700, wait, the dollar isn't that bad, yet |
| 14:16.41 | hrw|work | 60 EUR sounds nice... |
| 14:16.44 | Crofton | must finish thesis first |
| 14:16.52 | Crofton | 66 eur to usd |
| 14:16.54 | koen | ~change 67 eur to usd |
| 14:17.18 | scx | how about changing eur to RMB |
| 14:17.25 | koen | brussels also has international airport iirc |
| 14:17.26 | Crofton | last time I was in brussels 67 eur was about 67 usd :( |
| 14:17.35 | Crofton | yeah, but flights are bad for me |
| 14:18.30 | lrg | scx: 1 pound = 12 RMB iirc, so 1 eur is probably about 18 RMB |
| 14:18.37 | hrw|work | poznan -train-> warsaw -flight-> brusells and back for me |
| 14:18.42 | koen | ~change 67 eur to rmb |
| 14:19.22 | hrw|work | rmb? what currency it is? |
| 14:19.33 | scx | China currency |
| 14:19.43 | koen | ~change 67 eur to CNY |
| 14:20.05 | scx | well, not too bad. |
| 14:21.15 | scx | RP: Things may be easier after we move to Marvell... |
| 14:21.32 | lrg | scx: let's hope so. |
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| 14:21.53 | Crofton | is there a call for papers for FOSDEM? |
| 14:22.55 | hrw|work | Crofton: should be |
| 14:23.09 | hrw|work | Crofton: OE plans to have atleast two presentations |
| 14:24.24 | scx | Are you interested in suspend-to-disk implementation on ARM? |
| 14:24.56 | XorA | scx: some zaurus have disks |
| 14:24.58 | hrw|work | I has someone who asked about it recently |
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| 14:26.33 | RP | scx: suspend-to-ram has been much more common on handhelds although I can see the attraction of suspend-to-disk |
| 14:26.43 | scx | A guy from Sony did some work on suspend-to-disk and boot-from-snapshot. |
| 14:27.11 | scx | I hope it could be helpful to speed up the boot up process. |
| 14:28.01 | scx | suspend-to-disk let the kernel store and restore the memory. But in handheld, we could let boot loader do it. |
| 14:29.31 | Laibsc1 | hrw|work and scx: That someone was me. And I just posted a message to oesf this morning: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21752 |
| 14:29.36 | XorA | more interesting would be a pre-booted OZ image |
| 14:29.45 | XorA | first flash takes seconds to boot |
| 14:30.01 | scx | www.linuxsymposium.org/2006/linuxsymposium_procv2.pdf |
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| 14:32.00 | Laibsch | scx: nihao ma? |
| 14:32.08 | Laibsch | scx: I think you are Chines, right? |
| 14:32.14 | koen | XorA: that only leaves small problem with dropbear, but we can work around that |
| 14:32.20 | scx | Laibsch: yes. Wo hen hao. |
| 14:36.06 | Laibsch | RP: The attraction of suspend-to-disk is being able to change battery for example. |
| 14:37.21 | scx | It could boot to the GUI in a step. very quick |
| 14:37.30 | Laibsch | scx: Are you considering to work on suspend stuff? |
| 14:37.48 | Laibsch | As you can see from the posted link, I would be very interested in this. |
| 14:38.31 | scx | Laibsch: yes, I do. |
| 14:38.37 | Laibsch | scx: Just to introduce myself. Wo she Rolf (but that is about as much Chinese now as I have learned and remembered in the ten days intensive course) |
| 14:38.48 | Laibsch | scx: Great. I would be very interested. |
| 14:38.58 | Laibsch | But apparently for different reasons. |
| 14:39.16 | Laibsch | I am sort of "the Japanese guy" here. |
| 14:39.21 | Laibsch | My nationality is German. |
| 14:42.20 | Laibsch | But my interest stems from learning the Japanese language -> http://gakusei.sf.net and the equivalent for China http://xuesheng.sf.net |
| 14:42.20 | scx | Nice to meet you, Laibsch. My introduction could be short. I am Stanley. You can reach me at stanley.w.cai@gmail.com. My nationality is China. |
| 14:42.46 | Laibsch | I tried over some time to get Japanese input methods into OE. |
| 14:42.56 | Laibsch | So I guess this would be interesting for you as well. |
| 14:43.13 | Laibsch | uim is already in OE |
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| 14:43.45 | koen | CJKV, right? |
| 14:43.50 | Laibsch | right |
| 14:45.06 | Laibsch | But for me this is so far only related to Japanese. Just starting with Chinese. But I wanted to make sure scx know about the state of Chinese support in OE (close but not yet there). |
| 14:45.35 | Laibsch | Wow, OE is really making inroads in Asia now ;-) |
| 14:46.14 | scx | hehe |
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| 14:47.38 | koen | Laibsch: yes, and to prepare use zecke choose a real nice vietnamese restaurant on saterday :) |
| 14:48.20 | scx | Hi guys. I'd better have some sleep. It is 11pm here. |
| 14:48.23 | scx | Have a good day! |
| 14:49.02 | lrg | scx: cu |
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| 14:58.39 | likewise | hrw|work: is makedevs included in your openembedded-essentials? I just ran into a missing makedevs for some reason. Does OE expect this to be available on the host? |
| 15:02.42 | koen | Crofton: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2006-October/000622.html |
| 15:03.55 | Crofton|home | hmm |
| 15:04.07 | Crofton|home | Looks like I need to adjust my list subscriptions |
| 15:08.47 | Crofton | hmm |
| 15:08.57 | Crofton | maybe not, why didn't I see this ... |
| 15:10.16 | Crofton | just as a nte, it looks like he tried to compile the kernel without the dsp gw enabled |
| 15:10.38 | Crofton | but that is enabled in the defconfig in the 2.6.x+git bb file |
| 15:13.39 | hrw|work | re |
| 15:13.43 | hrw|work | likewise: will add |
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| 15:15.07 | hrw|work | likewise: I do not have makedevs on my debian box - OE one is used |
| 15:15.30 | Crofton|home | hrw|work, one of us did commit the "stable" kernel version, right? |
| 15:16.16 | Laibsch | koen: Too bad I missed the restaurant ;-) Any vietnamese around? |
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| 15:16.35 | koen | not that I know off |
| 15:17.03 | TheFool | anyone got time for some really dumb questions? |
| 15:17.12 | hrw|work | Crofton|home: you even booted it iirc |
| 15:17.17 | Crofton|home | yeah |
| 15:17.24 | Crofton|home | and mounted the cf drive |
| 15:17.40 | Crofton|home | I dropped him an email, hopefully he shows up here and I can check his config |
| 15:18.11 | Crofton|home | I will be happier when I see some people reproduce my results :) |
| 15:18.49 | hrw|work | Crofton|home: rebuilding it now.. |
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| 15:19.39 | hrw|work | NOTE: package linux-omap1-2.6.18+git-r2: task do_unpack: started |
| 15:19.39 | hrw|work | NOTE: Unpacking /home/hrw/devel/sources/dl_dir/git_source.mvista.com.git.linux-omap-2.6.git_c6051183c597b6a0fa73cdb59aac852c6148c5b6.tar.gz to /home/hrw/devel/build/celinux-test/tmp/work/omap5912osk-linux/linux-omap1-2.6.18+git-r2/ |
| 15:19.51 | koen | ah, the mailinglist post had 2.6.x-git |
| 15:19.56 | Crofton|home | yeah |
| 15:20.01 | Crofton|home | I am wondering why |
| 15:20.10 | koen | stale repo probably |
| 15:20.10 | Crofton|home | mind you the git one should have built |
| 15:20.12 | Crofton|home | yeah |
| 15:20.28 | Crofton|home | he said he updated, but I suspect a problem |
| 15:20.48 | hrw|work | Crofton|home: 2.6.x+git should be DEF_PREF -1 |
| 15:21.00 | Crofton|home | ok |
| 15:21.04 | Crofton|home | in the bb file? |
| 15:21.07 | hrw|work | yes |
| 15:21.16 | hrw|work | DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" |
| 15:21.22 | hrw|work | to not be selected |
| 15:21.22 | Crofton|home | I'll look up hoe to do that after I cross the street |
| 15:21.39 | hrw|work | I'll wait 3 minutes before rebuild |
| 15:22.05 | Crofton|home | the openomap distro file calls for the "stable" git |
| 15:22.30 | Crofton|home | bbiab |
| 15:24.13 | likewise | should someimage DEPEND on "mtd-utils" if someimage.bb uses jffs2? |
| 15:24.59 | hrw|work | likewise: we have something like that |
| 15:25.31 | hrw|work | conf/bitbake.conf:IMAGE_DEPENDS_jffs2 = "mtd-utils-native" |
| 15:29.26 | hrw|work | parsing time kills me |
| 15:30.28 | chouimat | if I don't do it now I will never do it :) |
| 15:31.06 | TheFool | would someone mind helping me set up OE I am having some problems with monotone not liking the OE.mtn file. |
| 15:31.48 | hrw|work | TheFool: monotone 0.30? |
| 15:31.56 | TheFool | hrw|work: yep |
| 15:31.57 | koen | TheFool: try reading the 'error' message mtn gives you |
| 15:32.01 | koen | they are quite clear |
| 15:32.16 | hrw|work | TheFool: and it tells you to migrate database? |
| 15:32.27 | koen | literacy skills seem to be absent in the embedded community |
| 15:32.32 | TheFool | koen: yea I know it tells me to try and use migrate, saddly I haven't been able to figure out the syntax for that, pathetic I know |
| 15:32.51 | hrw|work | TheFool: grab 0.30 snapshot |
| 15:33.29 | likewise | hrw|work: thanks, I over-wrote DEPENDS right after inherit image_ipk (= instead of +=). |
| 15:34.42 | TheFool | hrw|work: as far as I know I am using the latest snapshot |
| 15:35.41 | hrw|work | TheFool: default snapshot is for <0.30 |
| 15:35.58 | hrw|work | TheFool: there is also >=0.30 snapshot on /snapshots/ dir |
| 15:36.37 | Crofton|oe | can I ask bb to build a specific version of a b file? |
| 15:36.52 | hrw|work | Crofton|home: bitbake package-version |
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| 15:37.08 | Crofton|oe | -version as opposed to _version? |
| 15:37.23 | hrw|work | Crofton|home: yes |
| 15:37.27 | hrw|work | NOTE: package linux-omap1-2.6.18+git-r2: task do_build: completed |
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| 15:40.54 | hrw|work | cu |
| 15:42.24 | TheFool | koen: I guess you were right, my litteracy skills must have been lacking I kept forgeting to add the -d flag when I tried to migrate the db. |
| 15:42.38 | Crofton | maybe just typing ... |
| 15:44.04 | Crofton|oe | NOTE: package linux-omap1-2.6.x+git: completed |
| 15:44.46 | schurig | Is there a reason why we can't simple only publish one snapshot for mtm 0.30? Or is that buggier than previous releases? |
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| 15:45.19 | Crofton | that would force everyone to upgrade |
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| 15:46.29 | Crofton | upgrade their mtn binaries |
| 15:46.39 | Crofton | I ahve ine machine at 29 and the other at 30 |
| 15:46.59 | chouimat|busy | > Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms. |
| 15:46.59 | chouimat|busy | > -- Groucho Marx |
| 15:46.59 | chouimat|busy | So what? So's George Bush! |
| 15:47.03 | Crofton | largely because I am too lazy to work around a boost version problem on the older machine |
| 15:47.16 | Crofton | do not get me started on Bush |
| 15:47.27 | chouimat|busy | Crofton hahaha |
| 15:47.46 | Crofton | I had to go to Canada to find "Impeachmints" |
| 15:47.49 | schurig | Crofton: yeah, that would it. Is there a reason not to upgrade to mtm 0.30 ? |
| 15:47.57 | Crofton | schurig, not that I know off |
| 15:48.08 | Crofton | other than it needs a new boost library |
| 15:48.31 | schurig | Crofton: didn't noticed this with boost, apt-get handled that for me :-) |
| 15:48.32 | Crofton | I think people are reluctant to force an upgrade on people at the moment |
| 15:49.30 | schurig | the other was is to name all snapshots according to the MTM version, e.g. not just "snapshot.bz2" but "snapshot-for-mtn-0.29.bz2" (or similar, don't know the proper name be heart) |
| 15:49.48 | schurig | it's just that in the last two days that I'm in #oe I have seen one person each day using the wrong snapshot |
| 15:50.07 | koen | djeez |
| 15:50.14 | koen | schurig joins the illiterate |
| 15:50.17 | schurig | and the error message "migrate db" might be "right", but a better way would be to use the correct snapshot in the first place (less time consuming) |
| 15:50.39 | schurig | koen: yeah, get rid of OE.mtn.bz2 |
| 15:50.55 | schurig | koen: several people in the last two days downloaded the wrong one |
| 15:51.07 | koen | there is no 'wrong one' |
| 15:51.10 | schurig | koen: actually, not "get rid", but "rename" |
| 15:51.36 | schurig | koen: there is a "wrong one". If you download an older and need to migrate db and re-rosterify, you need more time compared to the correct download |
| 15:51.45 | schurig | "wrong" in quotation marks |
| 15:52.08 | schurig | koen: but you're king and you always see red whenever i type something |
| 15:52.11 | Crofton | It sounds like the getting started instructions need some clarification? |
| 15:52.32 | koen | OE.mtn.bz2 will always contain the latest OE metadata, regardless of monotone version |
| 15:53.21 | schurig | :-) |
| 15:53.46 | koen | complainers-not-doers |
| 15:53.51 | schurig | so rename this to OE-this-is-for-mtn-0.28.mtn.bz2 |
| 15:54.10 | koen | it isn't for 0.28 |
| 15:54.14 | schurig | it takes less time to "mtn pull" compared to "mtm db migrate" and to re-roster |
| 15:54.23 | koen | so? |
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| 15:54.56 | koen | It takes less time to /ignore you, but I still try to argue |
| 15:55.26 | schurig | koen: actually I would prefer that you /ignore me |
| 15:55.28 | koen | by your logic the OE website should be in german since "I say at least one german person in #oe" |
| 15:55.49 | schurig | no, it's about preventing errors in the first case |
| 15:56.13 | koen | Like I said http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch03s02 |
| 15:56.49 | koen | if you are not willing to do anything, just shut up |
| 15:57.01 | schurig | koen: I'm not saying that the doc is WRONG, I'm saying that it can easily made more fool-proof |
| 15:57.29 | schurig | the spec is correct, but some newbies made the same non-optimal "mistake" (in quotation marks again) |
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| 15:57.49 | schurig | and it would be easy to make the process simpler with a better speaking file name |
| 15:57.49 | koen | I have a better idea |
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| 15:58.05 | koen | we delete all docs and say "schurig knows best, talk to him" |
| 15:58.40 | Crofton | bah, knock it off |
| 15:58.43 | raduga | s/schurig/koen/ |
| 15:58.59 | Crofton | the only good that will come of this is I downloaded a static mtn-0.30 |
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| 16:03.33 | Genesis | a+ |
| 16:04.49 | schurig | anyway, I'm going home |
| 16:04.51 | schurig | bye |
| 16:04.56 | raduga | bye |
| 16:05.44 | TheFool | well thanks for the guidance, everything seems to be working now. |
| 16:06.48 | likewise | good, if schurig decides to leave, I guess there is nothing much to do around here <grin>. I am hitting the road. CU |
| 16:07.28 | koen | ~emulate schurig |
| 16:07.30 | ibot | ACTION schurig says: everything sucks, you suck, I know best |
| 16:07.40 | raduga | ~emulate rp |
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| 16:08.11 | raduga | is RP self-virtualized? and not emulatable? |
| 16:08.34 | chouimat|busy | raduga: nobody found the time to code this :) |
| 16:08.56 | likewise | no he crashed at boot-up |
| 16:09.04 | likewise | cu guys |
| 16:09.12 | chouimat|busy | likewise: bye |
| 16:09.24 | raduga | anyone here mess with SDL or framebuffer internals? |
| 16:10.22 | raduga | I've been tracking some odd behavior with SDL/touchscreen interactions |
| 16:10.53 | raduga | i thought it was application-specific bugs, but its looking more like something is borked at the SDL level, or in the TS driver even |
| 16:12.16 | raduga | when SDL is projecting a 320x200 in QVGA, its not stretched (rather, centered in middle of field) |
| 16:12.33 | raduga | and mouse clicks to the top and bottom margin kill the TS calibration |
| 16:13.02 | raduga | perhaps there's some kind of exception that's not being caught and handled properly |
| 16:13.11 | raduga | but the more I look for it... the more places I find it :) |
| 16:14.37 | raduga | oddly, mousing to the left and right margins also seems to bork the TS; but this never seems to occur in 640x480 |
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| 16:31.41 | florian_kc | france: ping |
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| 16:41.24 | goxboxlive | koen: IN the angstrom-2007.1.conf you have defines the FEED_URIS with the ${TARGET_ARCH} in the links. Is there a way to change this. Because the FEEDS are setup as "armv5te" but the TARGET_ARCH for htcuniversal and HX4700 is "arm". So with every new image i test i have to change the FEED from arm to armv5te so i can contact and download from the repos. |
| 16:41.56 | goxboxlive | I triedt to change my MAchine ARCH in the htcuniversal.conf file to armv5te, but it failed compiling. |
| 16:42.17 | woglinde | args |
| 16:42.22 | woglinde | whats that? |
| 16:42.23 | woglinde | glibc (2.5-r1) already staged but upgrading to 2.3.5+cvs20050627-r12 |
| 16:43.41 | woglinde | hm |
| 16:44.02 | woglinde | found |
| 16:44.08 | woglinde | workaround |
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| 16:44.51 | Laibsch | woglinde: I think I had that, too. Compiling for openzaurus-unstable? |
| 16:44.58 | woglinde | laibsch yes |
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| 16:45.43 | woglinde | so I comment out there |
| 16:45.52 | Laibsch | read bug 1421. openzaurus-unstable.conf was fixed to glibc 2.3.5 to make sure it is binary compatible. |
| 16:46.04 | woglinde | yes |
| 16:46.09 | Laibsch | But the word upgrading is indeed funny ;-) |
| 16:46.10 | woglinde | that sounds reasonable |
| 16:46.16 | woglinde | yes |
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| 17:08.53 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re9b9b873... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: use a newer binutils |
| 17:10.55 | woglinde | hm newer? |
| 17:11.10 | koen | 2.17.50.0.1 vs 2.17 |
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| 17:12.11 | woglinde | hehe |
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| 17:17.06 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r77261f96... 10/ (1 conf/machine/navman-icn330.conf): |
| 17:17.06 | CIA-4 | navman-icn330: add support for the navman iCN 300 gps receiver |
| 17:17.07 | CIA-4 | * see http://www.duff.dk/navman/ for details about the linux port |
| 17:23.24 | psokolovsky | koen: hilarious ;-) |
| 17:25.11 | koen | psokolovsky: the navman? |
| 17:25.21 | psokolovsky | yeah ;-) |
| 17:26.49 | psokolovsky | koen, I'm looking for port, or at least, inside photos of Nokia e60 thingy too ;-) |
| 17:27.24 | koen | hmmm |
| 17:27.30 | koen | uboot seems to want kernel-headers |
| 17:27.40 | koen | and the kernel want mk-image from uboot |
| 17:28.09 | koen | Crofton: what provides mkimage? |
| 17:28.26 | koen | Crofton: u(-)boot or u(-)boot-native? |
| 17:28.27 | Crofton | uboot |
| 17:28.52 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 17:29.12 | Crofton | u-boot for what machine? |
| 17:29.38 | koen | | ../include/configs/icn330.h:38:31: error: asm/arch/pxa-regs.h: No such file or directory |
| 17:29.48 | koen | Crofton: navman iCN330 |
| 17:30.10 | Crofton | which version of u-boot? |
| 17:30.23 | koen | LABEL-38294582389758927y8rufweifj iejgf |
| 17:30.31 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 17:30.43 | Crofton | sounds like an issue with the particular machine? |
| 17:31.02 | Crofton | for omap5912osk, I can nuke tmp |
| 17:31.11 | Crofton | rebuild with u-boot happening first |
| 17:33.00 | psokolovsky | pretty small a port, indeed |
| 17:33.32 | Crofton | which bb file are you trying to build? |
| 17:34.32 | koen | let me sync some generic improvements to uboot first |
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| 17:35.45 | Crofton | I would think u-boot would have to avoid depending on much of anything .... |
| 17:35.58 | koen | right |
| 17:36.15 | Crofton | I am re-rosterifying my db |
| 17:36.28 | koen | why not download a new one? |
| 17:36.34 | koen | you should have local changes :) |
| 17:36.38 | Crofton | heh |
| 17:36.46 | Crofton | I am wndering that myself ..... |
| 17:37.23 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra8958088... 10/ (1 packages/uboot/u-boot_LABEL.2006.06.30.2020.bb): |
| 17:37.23 | CIA-4 | u-boot_LABEL.2006.06.30.2020: fix compiling for non-standard target prefixes (like ones including target-vender) |
| 17:37.23 | CIA-4 | * machine machine specific as well |
| 17:37.28 | koen | s/shouldn/shouldn;t/ |
| 17:37.32 | Crofton | I just looked at log for git u-boot and don;t see anything about that machine |
| 17:39.38 | koen | external patch |
| 17:41.04 | psokolovsky | koen, does that thingy really has TS and usb? the page doesn't mention that, nor anything in patches. |
| 17:41.37 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r59a9ba47... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:41.37 | CIA-4 | linux-navman: add kernel for the navman-icn330 machine |
| 17:41.38 | CIA-4 | * due to some circular deps no uImage is created, but a zImage |
| 17:41.38 | CIA-4 | * the navman's uboot wants kernel headers in order to compile, and the kernel needs mk-image from uboot in order to build the uImage.... Time for an mkimage-native recipe? |
| 17:42.29 | koen | psokolovsky: it has at least usb according to the navman website |
| 17:43.07 | psokolovsky | ok. from page, i got guy boots it from the card |
| 17:43.23 | koen | right, he does |
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| 17:43.44 | koen | that's why I removed the ROOTFLASHSIZE from the machine.conf |
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| 17:47.26 | goxboxlive | koen: How come all my modules wouldnt install anymore. I allways have to add them with make_modules install manually after makeing a image. |
| 17:47.37 | goxboxlive | Even acx wouldnt install in to the image. |
| 17:47.51 | koen | use OE to compile your kernel |
| 17:49.37 | goxboxlive | I am using OE to compile my kernel, but there are several modules missing. Even though they are beeing created, but they dont get installed to it. |
| 17:50.30 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, machines are being converted to use new task-base stuff. some breakage and repair should be expected. |
| 17:51.18 | den-ros | goxboxlive: Same here. I ask Koen today about this. |
| 17:51.31 | den-ros | psokolovsky: Thanks. Now clear. |
| 17:51.36 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky> : I know that, and also expect that, but how do i force OE to install in example acx and htcuniversal_acx in to the image? |
| 17:51.50 | koen | psokolovsky: the conversion isn't the problem |
| 17:51.55 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, I actually see a bit of problem. |
| 17:51.57 | koen | psokolovsky: me making zillions of typos is :) |
| 17:52.05 | goxboxlive | They are both defined in the htcuniversal.conf |
| 17:52.06 | psokolovsky | koen, yep ;-) |
| 17:52.13 | den-ros | goxboxlive: I add needed modules by hands. |
| 17:53.06 | goxboxlive | den-ros: I also do that, but the strange thing is that some modules are being installed, like irda, and usbnet, but not all i want, like sound and acx |
| 17:54.11 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, try now |
| 17:54.24 | koen | psokolovsky: another common cause is underscores in module names |
| 17:54.44 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky> ok, i will. hold on |
| 17:54.48 | CIA-4 | ow |
| 17:55.26 | den-ros | goxboxlive: Yes, we talk about same - there is ununderstandable thing yet. |
| 17:56.18 | den-ros | goxboxlive:Please repeat, what machine do you use? |
| 17:56.27 | goxboxlive | htc universal |
| 17:56.40 | den-ros | goxboxlive: Wow cool. |
| 17:56.43 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r53d64b20... 10/ (1 conf/machine/htcuniversal.conf): htcuniversal: Fix typo. |
| 17:56.49 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra28fabd7... 10/ (1 conf/machine/htcuniversal.conf): |
| 17:56.49 | CIA-4 | htc-universal: fix another batch of typos |
| 17:56.49 | CIA-4 | * I should get my typing license renewed :) |
| 17:57.05 | psokolovsky | conflicts sux most ;-) |
| 17:57.15 | den-ros | And for hx4700 please :) |
| 17:58.39 | psokolovsky | koen, may take me some time to merge due to conflict and me working on headless box now ;-( if you can, please fix ;-) |
| 17:59.03 | koen | I can't since I don't understand vimdiff |
| 17:59.32 | koen | and my buildbox is several hundred meters away |
| 18:00.25 | psokolovsky | koen: lol. me too ;-) ok, working on it ;-) at least we now know that mtn works ok with concurrent commits ;-E |
| 18:00.46 | koen | we already knew that |
| 18:01.02 | koen | that's why we choose it :) |
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| 18:09.04 | psokolovsky | koen: this - vs _ issue: is it rooted in internal names used by kernel, or ipkg just uses '-' everywhere? |
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| 18:09.27 | koen | psokolovsky: a bit of both |
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| 18:11.36 | psokolovsky | koen, hm, then, let htcuniversal people try that with just __ fixed, because replacing each underscore with hyphen unlikely will give good results (at least, hx4700 still has some _) |
| 18:12.00 | koen | check the ipkg names, it will break |
| 18:12.07 | koen | that's what den-ros found out today |
| 18:12.16 | Gerrath | XorA|gone you had mentioned you have directfb working on your system. What processor are you using? I keep getting glibc detected *** dfbg: double free or corruption when I run directfb. This error normally means there is a memory hole? |
| 18:12.50 | koen | Gerrath: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/error-messages-that-arent-very-helpfull :) |
| 18:13.06 | psokolovsky | goxboxlive, still listening? now its "fixed" again, please restart your build to confirm it ;-) |
| 18:13.54 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky> i will, but binutils where updated, and it trake som time to compile it. |
| 18:14.06 | koen | psokolovsky: all modules in RRECOMMENDS need to use hyphen, now we don't use kernel_modules.bbclass anymore |
| 18:15.25 | koen | psokolovsky: you can verify it bu checking the control files of task-base* |
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| 18:18.17 | Gerrath | koen, thanks, I think :-p, well I did an strace also but I'm not real sure that its any help either.. |
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| 18:19.16 | koen | psokolovsky: I synced to my mac and merged it with FileMerge.app |
| 18:19.40 | den-ros | koen: Thanks , but it is Philippe(pH5) found '_' (i only ask) , if talk about it. |
| 18:19.43 | psokolovsky_ | koen, no! I already merged and pushed it ;-) |
| 18:19.55 | nicolasfr | hello. Any clue about this ipkg error: "Clearing state_want and state_flag for pkg=... (arch_priority=0 flag=0 want=2)" ? |
| 18:20.22 | nicolasfr | first time I see this error (just installed a fresh compiled image) |
| 18:20.33 | koen | nicolasfr: usually a wrong arch |
| 18:20.40 | psokolovsky_ | koen, and after all, only hyphens must be used, and '_' are -> '-' in linux-kernel-base.bbclass |
| 18:21.46 | nicolasfr | koen: where does ipkg looks for archtype? Cause uname gives armv5tel and packages are armv5te... |
| 18:21.59 | koen | nicolasfr: /etc/ipkg/arch.conf |
| 18:24.36 | Crofton | why do I inherit from autotools? |
| 18:25.20 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1d7f3627... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): hx4700: remove some more hyphens |
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| 18:31.49 | den-ros | koen: :) Thanks again. |
| 18:32.03 | koen | psokolovsky_: I think I have caught most typos from the last few days :) |
| 18:32.45 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky_> still the same. |
| 18:33.02 | koen | goxboxlive: bitbake -c rebuild task-base |
| 18:33.11 | goxboxlive | i'll try |
| 18:33.30 | goxboxlive | i cleaed handhelds-pxa before i made the gpe-image thow |
| 18:37.54 | koen | CSI miami time |
| 18:37.56 | nicolasfr | koen: ok, I had removed arch.conf ;) |
| 18:38.24 | nicolasfr | btw the splash screen "a la poky" is nice |
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| 18:41.44 | nicolasfr | goxboxlive: I will get an HTC Universal in a few weeks. I can't wait to boot linux on it |
| 18:41.55 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb042caec... 10/ (1 conf/machine/htcuniversal.conf): htcuniversal: A bit of merge funkyness due to vimdiff braindeadness. |
| 18:42.09 | nicolasfr | goxboxlive: any progress on the suspend problem? |
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| 18:47.44 | goxboxlive | <nicolasfr> hi there. Yes it is great device. But actually, the phone part suck, it is not reliable, it sucks. But it will be a good linux machine thow |
| 18:48.06 | goxboxlive | suspend is not been working on yet. The RE man is working on the phone part now |
| 18:48.49 | nicolasfr | it means that you have to reboot to linux each time you shut the device off? |
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| 18:54.20 | goxboxlive | psokolovsky_ & Koen : Now they where installed, Both sound and acx. thx guys. |
| 18:54.32 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, cool! |
| 18:54.53 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, just in case, can you tell filename of sound module ipk? |
| 18:56.30 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky_> ?? the patch to the sound module? |
| 18:57.03 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, nope, filename of ipk built for the htcuniversal sound module. |
| 18:57.14 | goxboxlive | ok, hold on |
| 18:57.27 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, that which contains snd & htcuniversal in it |
| 18:59.00 | goxboxlive | kernel-module-snd-htcuniversal-audio-2.6.17-hh1_cvs(date) |
| 19:00.04 | Crofton|oe | | /home/balister/oe_home/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/lib/libomniORB4.so: file not recognized: File format not recognized |
| 19:00.12 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, nice, thanks! |
| 19:00.30 | Crofton|oe | the x86_64-linux is the arch of the build machine |
| 19:00.32 | goxboxlive | pastebin.ca/207030 |
| 19:00.42 | psokolovsky_ | koen, just in case, I'm fixing lst typo in hx4700.conf now ;-) |
| 19:00.49 | Crofton|oe | any idea how that gets into the libtool -L paths? |
| 19:01.27 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky_> I have also added snd-pcm-oss and snd-pcm-mixer. I dont know if i need them, but i used to have them with the 2.6.12 kernel |
| 19:01.39 | Crofton|oe | this is in the ossiecf bb file? |
| 19:02.20 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, I'm not sure either, but i assume, that should be controlled outside machine configs, as those modules are not machine-specific. |
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| 19:04.20 | den-ros | psokolovsky_: Thanks for hx4700. |
| 19:05.14 | CIA-4 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r517f7efe... 10/ (1 conf/machine/hx4700.conf): |
| 19:05.14 | CIA-4 | hx4700: Fix last typo in kernel module package name (only hyphens are allowed there, |
| 19:05.14 | CIA-4 | underscores separate package name from version). |
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| 19:08.40 | nicolasfr | python-pygtk needs a RDEPENDS on python-pycairo |
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| 19:12.37 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky_> i havent added them to htcuniversal.conf, but i have added them to the defconfig for the linux kernel. |
| 19:13.00 | den-ros | Bye all. |
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| 19:13.27 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, I guess that's ok. I have no idea if ansgtrom is fully alsa-based. |
| 19:13.38 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:16.55 | koen | alsa + oss emu most likely |
| 19:17.19 | koen | I'd like to have ASoC for all machines, the giorgi is being a pain about that |
| 19:22.08 | psokolovsky_ | koen, I talked with Giorgio about that too. He told he couln't achieve concord communicating with eith either RP or Liam on it. He said also that he had issues with ASoC and DPM. |
| 19:22.33 | koen | ASoC is going to be in mainline kernel soon |
| 19:23.47 | goxboxlive | I have problems booting my new kernel with the new binutils-cross |
| 19:23.50 | psokolovsky_ | yep, so he said if anyone wants to play with it now, it's nice, but he'd rather wait and see how it goes |
| 19:23.51 | koen | so hh-pxa is going to end up with yet another unmergable diff from mainline |
| 19:24.01 | goxboxlive | it says: |
| 19:24.01 | CIA-4 | 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r9b4f1129... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb): linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb : Add DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "1". |
| 19:24.16 | koen | Crofton: 1 or -1 ? |
| 19:24.26 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 19:24.41 | Crofton | I swear I cut and paste from openzaurus ,,,,, |
| 19:25.11 | koen | Crofton: you just typod in the commit message :) |
| 19:25.28 | Crofton | yeah :) |
| 19:25.31 | Crofton | bother |
| 19:25.44 | goxboxlive | /bin/sh /lib/libgcc_s.so1: version 'GCC_3.5' not found (reqiuerd by /bin/sh) and the same for libc.so.6 but for GLIBC _2.1.3 |
| 19:25.51 | Crofton | just checking to see if anyone was awake |
| 19:26.01 | goxboxlive | and GLIBC_2.0 |
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| 19:26.54 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, so, what exactly says that? |
| 19:27.54 | goxboxlive | init version 2.86 booting |
| 19:28.34 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, ok, so at least it's not kernel |
| 19:28.45 | goxboxlive | It might be taht i have to rebuild a lot of stuff since there where an update in the cross compiler |
| 19:29.08 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, yep, that would be first thought ;-I |
| 19:29.27 | psokolovsky_ | koen, do you think that rebuild would clear that ^^^ |
| 19:30.28 | koen | it think so |
| 19:30.34 | koen | gcc 3.5 seems a bit odd |
| 19:31.11 | psokolovsky_ | koen, that's likely, some ABI version, I guess |
| 19:31.16 | goxboxlive | so actually it the allmost every package needs to be rebuild? |
| 19:31.57 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, gcc-cross & glibc to start with ;-) |
| 19:32.27 | koen | meh |
| 19:32.35 | goxboxlive | :-) and that is thoose who takes the longest time |
| 19:32.48 | koen | "get some bugfixes" turns in to "watch qemu grind trough 217 locales" |
| 19:33.24 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, I guess, for you, it would be better to undo version bump locally and let other to catch nuts instead ;-) |
| 19:34.00 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 19:39.00 | Crofton|oe | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.19 | Crofton|oe | this is in the arm-linux-gcc -v string |
| 19:39.31 | Crofton|oe | what exactly is mpfr? |
| 19:39.58 | koen | some math thing iirc |
| 19:40.11 | CosmicPenguin | yay technical details |
| 19:40.29 | Crofton | why would my cross compiler point at a x86-64-linux directory ..... |
| 19:40.54 | CosmicPenguin | because its a x86_64 binary |
| 19:41.01 | Crofton | is there some command you can give gcc to make it cough up a list of link time include dirs? |
| 19:42.00 | nicolasfr | Koen: I have installed gtk+_2.10.0 under Angstrom but some gtk dependant libs are defined in their bb recipe to install under /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.4.0 instead of 2.10.0 (libgtkinput and libgtkstylus). Is there a "nice way" to fix the .bb? |
| 19:42.11 | Crofton | http://www.mpfr.org/ |
| 19:42.19 | koen | nicolasfr: actually there is :) |
| 19:42.34 | Crofton | why would my arm cross compiler care about mult precision floating point .... |
| 19:42.57 | koen | nicolasfr: those recipes need to use http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=593b9e6f5ea7ab1790ec54c7599baf883f22f12b |
| 19:43.25 | koen | Crofton: for building ada and fortran compiler iirc |
| 19:43.43 | nicolasfr | koen: cool! |
| 19:47.06 | psokolovsky_ | damn, and I have only binutils-2.17.50.0.5.tar.bz2 locally. will try that. |
| 19:47.53 | koen | nicolasfr: and the bootsplash is actually the one from poky :) |
| 19:48.14 | koen | nicolasfr: I'm working with mallum to fix the white background issues |
| 19:48.30 | psokolovsky_ | http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/devel/binutils/release.binutils-2.17.50.0.5: "It is purely for Linux. |
| 19:48.30 | psokolovsky_ | " |
| 19:48.47 | psokolovsky_ | ... kernel, I guess. should we take that warning? |
| 19:49.20 | psokolovsky_ | Changes from binutils 2.17.50.0.3: |
| 19:49.20 | psokolovsky_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.36 | psokolovsky_ | Changes from binutils 2.17.50.0.2: |
| 19:49.37 | psokolovsky_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.14 | koen | psokolovsky_: we want the version with the fixes from tf, so you could add 2.17.50.0.latest |
| 19:51.20 | goxboxlive | how come hx4700 has dpi=200? Where is that setting? Htc universal comes out with dpi=100, and that is to small. It can be adjusted in the Xserver file, but how can i do that in OE? |
| 19:52.13 | koen | goxboxlive: add a patch to http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.10.bb |
| 19:52.22 | goxboxlive | thx |
| 19:52.29 | koen | goxboxlive: and send it to florian as well, so I can get upstream |
| 19:52.36 | goxboxlive | i will |
| 19:53.11 | koen | goxboxlive: you can get the latest version at http://projects.linuxtogo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/base/xserver-common/?root=gpe |
| 19:59.20 | nicolasfr | koen: what would you think about making an alternative angstrom-matchbox task, which would provide a simple matchox desktop (I know I like poky, but having access to full OE feeds is much easier), without the full blown gpe? |
| 19:59.47 | koen | nicolasfr: sure |
| 20:00.03 | koen | nicolasfr: that's been the plan, just haven't had time to implement it |
| 20:00.51 | nicolasfr | oh nice! |
| 20:01.51 | koen | nicolasfr: the 'base' would be mb-wm+mb-desktop+(mbpanel or fbpanel) + gpe-conf |
| 20:02.54 | nicolasfr | what's gpe-conf? the default tools in settings folder? |
| 20:03.08 | koen | yes |
| 20:03.28 | koen | poky only has a theme selector last time I tried it |
| 20:03.36 | nicolasfr | also adding nano would save some users (those would don't like much vi for example!) |
| 20:03.47 | nicolasfr | koen: true, poky has no setting tools |
| 20:04.16 | koen | nicolasfr: my end goal is to not ship a xterminal |
| 20:05.15 | nicolasfr | thanks to mickeyl I can make some tests with latest pygtk and hopefully make some applets easily (wifi with wpa, card applets, ...). maybe that would be usefull (but of course would depend on python) |
| 20:05.44 | nicolasfr | If I can help with testing, let me know. |
| 20:06.10 | koen | gathering user experiences is very usefull |
| 20:06.22 | koen | especially now the software doesn't crash after 5 seconds :) |
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| 20:07.16 | nicolasfr | hehe ;) |
| 20:07.53 | koen | a new icon theme would be nice as well |
| 20:07.57 | koen | tango for example |
| 20:08.45 | nicolasfr | exactly, tango icons are nice (much more than the gpe contact icon for eg;) |
| 20:09.14 | koen | I usually change to the industrial icon theme |
| 20:09.15 | nicolasfr | a nice background and logo would help. Any artists there? |
| 20:09.46 | koen | nicolasfr: see http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/hx4700.JPG |
| 20:10.00 | koen | that's how I usually configure my devices |
| 20:11.01 | nicolasfr | nice look |
| 20:11.27 | Crofton | I have a suspicion the arm compiler hosted on a x86_64 is including the x84_64 native lib from staging because of the --with-mfpr |
| 20:11.32 | goxboxlive | yes it looks nice, it should be like that at first boot. |
| 20:11.58 | Crofton | in any case mfpr path should be in staging/arm-linux |
| 20:12.25 | koen | Crofton: I'm not sure if that's true for the crosscompiler |
| 20:12.40 | koen | Crofton: conventional wisdoms don't work on gcc :( |
| 20:13.13 | Crofton | well, I am having a problem where it includes that directory in some link lines |
| 20:13.31 | Crofton | and this blows up the link because I have some libs there from native packages |
| 20:18.33 | Crofton | w00t, my PPCZone project was approved! |
| 20:19.47 | goxboxlive | kone: I saw your screenshor. Why cant you make the angstrom look like that at first boot. |
| 20:21.55 | koen | goxboxlive: I can, just haven't had time to sort out the patches needed |
| 20:22.07 | koen | Crofton: welcome to the efika club :) |
| 20:22.29 | goxboxlive | koen: Ok looking forward to that. |
| 20:22.46 | Crofton | Hopefully the OE support appears quickly |
| 20:23.03 | Crofton | my project is to build what I am making work on the OSK on that :) |
| 20:23.19 | Crofton | this mpfr stuff is pissing me off |
| 20:23.24 | Crofton | I think :) |
| 20:23.46 | hrw | hi |
| 20:23.52 | koen | hey hrw |
| 20:24.05 | nicolasfr | hi |
| 20:24.25 | hrw | koen: when I'm reading your discussions with schurig I feel that you should be in PR group. |
| 20:24.52 | hrw | should not |
| 20:25.06 | Crofton | that would be like putting me in the technical writing group |
| 20:25.10 | Crofton | :) |
| 20:25.32 | koen | ~emulate schurig |
| 20:25.42 | ibot | ACTION schurig says: everything sucks, you suck, I know best |
| 20:25.50 | schurig | hrw: don't put me into a PR group either :-) |
| 20:26.02 | hrw | schurig: ok;) |
| 20:26.40 | hrw | koen: I often feel s/schurig/koen in this 'emulate' |
| 20:26.52 | hrw | ofcourse I'm not perfect too |
| 20:27.09 | hrw | ~oe.mtn |
| 20:27.10 | ibot | rumour has it, oe.mtn is http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/OE.mtn.bz2 |
| 20:27.48 | koen | hrw: at least we actually *do* something besides complaining |
| 20:27.53 | hrw | ibot: no, oe.mtn is snapshot of OpenEmbedded metadata available on http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ as files for monotone <0.30 and for >=0.30 |
| 20:27.54 | ibot | okay, hrw |
| 20:28.40 | hrw | koen: then 'fix' gettingstarted with content of usermanual page? |
| 20:28.57 | koen | its a wiki, fix it yourself |
| 20:29.09 | hrw | :D |
| 20:29.35 | schurig | somehow there are people that understand "complaining" if someone merely throws in an idea ("maybe we should rename ...") |
| 20:29.54 | hrw | anyway - time to shutdown to check how Ania's laptop works with external monitor |
| 20:30.12 | schurig | but that is what most people understand as suggestion, to begin a discussion (not flame) about how to improve something |
| 20:30.59 | hrw | 13 slides for tomorrow - I hope that some people will come |
| 20:31.01 | hrw | cu |
| 20:31.21 | schurig | anyway, time to test a new kernel :-/ |
| 20:32.50 | goxboxlive | koen: With your hx4700 are you able to control your backlight in GPE? |
| 20:33.07 | koen | goxboxlive: yes |
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| 20:33.26 | koen | thanks to one of the patches I wrote for minilite :) |
| 20:33.28 | goxboxlive | koen: Wich kernel version are you using? |
| 20:33.53 | goxboxlive | patch for the kernel or GPE? |
| 20:34.46 | koen | that patch has been in minilite for ~1.5 years now |
| 20:35.10 | koen | if your kernel uses the standard 2.6 interface for backlights, gpe can use it |
| 20:35.54 | goxboxlive | koen: Yes it worked in GPE until hh.org moved over to 2.6.17 |
| 20:36.27 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, you should convert to corgi-bl for 2.6.17, as was RFCed on kernel-discuss@. |
| 20:37.24 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, It works for me on h4000/2.6.17 and people submitted working patching for hx4700, h2200. |
| 20:37.32 | goxboxlive | <psokolovsky_> join #htc-linux and explain for cr2. |
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| 20:38.17 | psokolovsky_ | goxboxlive, ok, but tomorrow, good? ;-) |
| 20:38.26 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:39.12 | XorA|gone | Gerrath: its a zaurus c7x0 so arm |
| 20:39.22 | XorA|gone | Gerrath: under OZ 3.5.* something or other |
| 20:39.41 | XorA|gone | koen: any known bugs fixed by that new binutils? |
| 20:42.02 | koen | XorA|gone: it should fix some iwmmxt bugs |
| 20:42.25 | koen | XorA|gone: but I think I misread the changelogs a bit and we need 2.17.50.0.3 instead of .1 |
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| 21:01.32 | florian | re |
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| 21:46.50 | goxboxlive | we should add 'cu' in the OE.dev. |
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| 21:55.18 | v8jlene | goxboxlive: cu is a cli serial comms thingy right? Can't kermit do the same as what you'd use cu for? |
| 21:55.53 | goxboxlive | to communicate with the phone on htc universal |
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| 22:08.52 | Laibsch | florian: Will http://www.kernelconcepts.de/products/usb-cf.shtml ever become available again? (for us collie users) Any alternative suppliers of similar hardware? |
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| 22:12.19 | florian | Laibsch: no :-( If you are really lucky there is still one somewhere... i'd need to check. Nut a'm not sure about the current driver situation... |
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| 22:13.18 | Laibsch | florian: I'd appreciate if you let me know. |
| 22:15.15 | florian | Laibsch: don't hestitate to remind me.. i really need to check tomorrow at the office. |
| 22:15.26 | Laibsch | OK |
| 22:15.54 | Laibsch | Can I just send you a mail to florain at kernelconcept.de? |
| 22:16.00 | Laibsch | florian |
| 22:16.52 | florian | Laibsch: you can if you don't forget the last 's' :-) |
| 22:17.08 | Laibsch | OK |
| 22:17.57 | hvontres|poodle | Laibsch: would this work: http://www.rexpccard.co.jp/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html |
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| 22:21.34 | Laibsch | hvontres|poodle: I guess so. The dealer in Germany is only selling bulk it appears. |
| 22:24.25 | hvontres|poodle | :( |
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| 22:55.27 | CoreDump|afk | boy that was priceless |
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| 22:56.58 | CoreDump|afk | raduga: almost bash.org quality hehe |
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| 23:02.41 | raduga | ugh. |
| 23:02.56 | raduga | i feel like trolling Cyorxamp. :/ |
| 23:03.02 | raduga | probably a good sign that I should leave |
| 23:03.04 | raduga | ... |
| 23:03.41 | raduga | thanks for your help, developers. |
| 23:03.44 | raduga | thanks *much* |
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| 23:32.25 | mreimer | is it safe to use a newer mtn (0.30) with the OE db? |
| 23:33.59 | Laibsch | bugs.oe.org is down |
| 23:38.51 | psokolovsky_ | mreimer, there's a DB download specifically for 0.30. or, youc an convert older DB yourself (long!!) |
| 23:39.08 | mreimer | hi psokolovsky_ |
| 23:39.17 | psokolovsky_ | mreimer, Hi! ;-) |
| 23:39.18 | mreimer | is there a recommended version to use atm? |
| 23:39.36 | psokolovsky_ | mreimer, 0.30 works very good ;-) |
| 23:40.11 | mreimer | ok, I'll upgrade. thanks psokolovsky_! |
| 23:40.14 | psokolovsky_ | mreimer, Matt, btw, wanted you to ask if you could try my common-buttonmap refactor on h2200. patches were posted to kernel-discuss. |
| 23:40.35 | mreimer | psokolovsky_: ok, I'll start a build. Does it include xmodmap patches? |
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| 23:41.49 | psokolovsky_ | mreimer, yes, in the form of familiar tree patches. but it should be pretty easy to extract them to apply on already installed system. |
| 23:41.52 | psokolovsky_ | mreimer, http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ |
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