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| 07:37.21 | TEmiil | Morning |
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| 07:59.37 | TEmiil | I have a problem with xcalibrateext package. |
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| 08:00.16 | TEmiil | There is only git available, but my admins blocks the port. |
| 08:00.39 | TEmiil | How can I switch back to xcalibrateext_cvs? |
| 08:02.23 | TEmiil | Or how can I manipulate git fetch command to make it use http? |
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| 08:08.41 | CIA-4 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r97783f63... 10/ (1 packages/mplayer/mplayer_1.0pre8.bb): |
| 08:08.41 | CIA-4 | mplayer_1.0pre8.bb : use some sed to clean/change the configure script |
| 08:08.41 | CIA-4 | for cross compile. This should stop it picking up spurios /usr/* stuff. |
| 08:09.01 | XorA | TEmiil: which tarball is it looking for, I could put that on a website for you |
| 08:09.57 | TEmiil | XorA: It's trying to 'git pull' from the freedesktop.org |
| 08:10.40 | XorA | TEmiil: I know, but before the git pull, it will try and get a tarball from oesources |
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| 08:11.36 | TEmiil | XorA: eeehm... moment please. I'll have to check this ;) |
| 08:14.30 | TEmiil | XorA: No, it says 'fetch started' -> 'fatal: need a single revisionÃ'-> 'Pulling into a black hole?' -> 'NOTE: Task failed: fetch failed ... git pull...' (-> means new line) |
| 08:15.40 | TEmiil | XoeA: And SRC_URI only contains the git repo. |
| 08:16.01 | XorA | TEmiil: odd, I thought the git fetcher tried to see if there was a cached tarball first |
| 08:16.17 | XorA | TEmiil: my bad, the cvs one does |
| 08:16.34 | XorA | TEmiil: do you have ssh access to an external machine? |
| 08:17.55 | TEmiil | XorA: Yes, I do. I solved it temorarily by renaming the git.bb and unsing the cvs.bb in obsolete folder. But I think, this is not a future solution. |
| 08:18.18 | XorA | TEmiil: well ssh -D 1080 account@machine sets up a SOCKS 5 proxy |
| 08:18.47 | XorA | TEmiil: if you install dante-client, configure it for a SOCKS5 at localhost and use socksify bitbake blah then it will puncture the firewall |
| 08:19.02 | XorA | TEmiil: we have to use that trick here when the firewall fscks up |
| 08:21.25 | TEmiil | XorA: Sorry, I misunderstud you. In principle, I can establish ssh connections to external machines, but I don't have an external machine to connect to. |
| 08:22.43 | TEmiil | XorA: By the way, these proxy-things to bypass the firewall is strictly forbidden here. My Admin would kill me... |
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| 08:24.00 | TEmiil | XorA: And it was h hard and long fight to get these f**ing CVS and Monotone ports opened. |
| 08:27.18 | TEmiil | XorA: Isnt there a simple PREFERRED_WHATEVER-thing to swich back to cvs? |
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| 08:27.56 | XorA | TEmiil: PREFERRED_VERSION_blah = "x.xx+cvsXXXXXX" |
| 08:28.17 | XorA | TEmiil: get the PV for cvs version from the .bb |
| 08:29.01 | XorA | TEmiil: ask your admin for a SOCKS proxy if your doing work stuff |
| 08:29.09 | XorA | TEmiil: then you dont need to side sneak |
| 08:30.20 | XorA | TEmiil: should be easier than getting ports open as the admin can happilly log and ifnore SOCKS connections |
| 08:30.40 | TEmiil | XorA: It's 0.0Ã+cvs${SRCDATE}. I tried PREFERRED_VERSIONxcalibrateext = "0.0+cvs20061009" and SRCDATE = "20061009" but it says 'nothing provied dependeny blah' |
| 08:31.08 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 08:31.22 | XorA | TEmiil: ah is it not now xcalibrateproto to be annoying |
| 08:31.38 | koen | good morning al |
| 08:31.39 | koen | l |
| 08:32.28 | XorA | hey koen |
| 08:32.57 | TEmiil | XorA: Sorry, there is no xcalibrateproto package |
| 08:33.09 | psokolovsky_ | TEmiil, you can't just "switch to cvs version" and expect it to work. It was removed because there was great deal of confusion with using vresion before and after conversion. OE.dev uses latest version, and older won't work easily at all. |
| 08:34.04 | koen | yay! RMK is no longer dictator for the serial subsystem |
| 08:34.56 | TEmiil | psokolovsky_: Yes, sounds logic, but git isnt available for me and there is no alternative package (like tarball on oesources). |
| 08:35.01 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:35.06 | XorA | hey florian_kc |
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| 08:35.28 | hrw|work | hi |
| 08:35.33 | psokolovsky_ | TEmiil, anyway, nothing was removed from repo, just moved to packages/obsolete/. |
| 08:36.44 | florian_kc | hi hrw|work |
| 08:36.58 | TEmiil | psokolovsky_Ã::) yes, thats what I did, but 1) its obsolete and 2) the PREFERRED_VERSION_blah thing didnt work (I'm making a mistake somewhere there) |
| 08:37.03 | psokolovsky_ | TEmiil, but again it won't "just work", as all dependencies were switched to the new version. And yes, it sucks that there wasn't yet official release of it. Well, until then, better find way to use git (lobby freedesktop.org to give git/http if they don't offer already) |
| 08:38.10 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 08:38.27 | TEmiil | psokolovsky: ok, but how to I tell git to use http? or better: how do I tell bitbake to use git-http-fetch? |
| 08:38.47 | hrw|work | TEmiil: add 'proto=http' into SRC_URI line with git |
| 08:38.50 | psokolovsky_ | TEmiil, grep is your friend ;-I |
| 08:41.37 | hrw|work | bbl |
| 08:43.30 | TEmiil | psokolovsky_: With SRC_URI='git://blah;protocol=http' fetch also fails: |
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| 08:50.29 | likewise | hi fooks |
| 08:51.44 | florian_kc | hi likewise |
| 08:52.11 | koen | hey likewise |
| 08:52.18 | likewise | hey all |
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| 08:57.19 | TEmiil | psokolovsky_: When I manually try to pull the git repo with 'git pull http://anongit.freedesktop.org/xorg/proto/calibrateproto', it says 'fatal: not a git repoitory' |
| 08:58.02 | bigd0g | TEmiil: do a 'clone' first :) |
| 08:58.37 | psokolovsky_ | TEmiil, Well, and did you check that freedesktop.org supports HTTP for git at all? |
| 09:00.48 | TEmiil | psokolovsky_: Sorry, my fault! Wrong directory! It always (with git and http) says 'fatal: need a singe revision' |
| 09:00.59 | XorA | now the experts are on, does the GIT fetcher not check for a tarball before doing the GIT fetch |
| 09:01.00 | TEmiil | psokolovsky_: No, not yet |
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| 09:01.23 | koen | XorA: I think it doesn't check |
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| 09:01.36 | koen | XorA: ask hrw :) |
| 09:01.42 | XorA | koen: thats a pity, as thats a damn useful feature of the cvs one |
| 09:01.44 | hrw | re |
| 09:01.50 | XorA | hrw: now the experts are on, does the GIT fetcher not check for a tarball before doing the GIT fetch |
| 09:01.51 | hrw | koen: about what? |
| 09:02.26 | koen | XorA: at OEDEM we discussed modifying the fetcher to return a revision, so you could put that in the name of the tarball instead of the date |
| 09:02.42 | psokolovsky_ | XorA, it for sure creates tarball, but if it uses it... - it should ;-) |
| 09:02.58 | hrw | XorA: git fetcher stinks |
| 09:03.16 | TEmiil | hrw: :-))) |
| 09:03.21 | psokolovsky_ | koen, Was situation with OE wiki settled on OEDEM? |
| 09:04.38 | koen | psokolovsky_: mail me and I can create an account |
| 09:04.48 | koen | the RFC about that will be sent this week :) |
| 09:04.53 | psokolovsky_ | koen: Ok, thanks. |
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| 09:08.26 | XorA | ~lart kdrive |
| 09:09.34 | koen | ibot: botsnack |
| 09:09.34 | ibot | koen: thanks |
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| 09:18.04 | O_Neil | hi koen |
| 09:19.49 | O_Neil | do you consider add a feature that can make bitbake fetch all packages from one ftp site? |
| 09:20.25 | XorA | O_Neil: you mean like the one thatsa alreeady there |
| 09:22.10 | O_Neil | I know there are MIRROR defined |
| 09:22.37 | XorA | O_Neil: it always looks on oesources.org if it cant find it elsewhere |
| 09:23.29 | O_Neil | is it defined in bitbake.conf? |
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| 09:26.09 | O_Neil | CVS_TARBALL_STASH is for cvs only |
| 09:27.16 | O_Neil | MIRRORS () in "base.bbclass" defined "ftp://.*/.*/ http://www.oesources.org/source/current/" |
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| 09:28.39 | O_Neil | should I modify it to my URL? |
| 09:29.56 | XorA | O_Neil: that would work |
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| 09:30.34 | O_Neil | I see, thanks |
| 09:31.00 | TEmiil | Something else: How can change default fonts in matchbox? |
| 09:32.41 | XorA | TEmiil: edit the theme |
| 09:33.59 | O_Neil | can I define the MIRRORS in "local.conf"? |
| 09:34.50 | TEmiil | XorA: I have not defined a special theme. Whats the default theme? |
| 09:36.08 | XorA | TEmiil: /usr/share/themes/Default/ |
| 09:36.15 | Genesis | koen, : do you try the last gnash ? |
| 09:36.17 | Genesis | AGG/FB support has been just checked in. |
| 09:36.17 | Genesis | I'll close this item, but just wanted to suggest you to try the new code. It should be build using --enable-renderer=agg --enable-gui=fb |
| 09:39.04 | koen | Genesis: I haven't tried it |
| 09:40.42 | TEmiil | XorA: Sorry, these question might be stupid, but where do I change the fonts there? I haven |
| 09:40.48 | Genesis | oki i show that and i mail if my package work |
| 09:40.55 | Genesis | ( on the OE dev mailing ) |
| 09:41.01 | XorA | TEmiil: time to go to matchbox webpage and read the docs |
| 09:41.04 | TEmiil | XorA: haven't found something in theme.desktop or .xml |
| 09:41.19 | TEmiil | XorA: ;) |
| 09:45.53 | koen | mickey|ttdevdays: I added the bugzilla mail to the 'accept' queue for the oe-issues list |
| 09:48.59 | hrw | ("umba-umba" is a new technical term I learned this weekend, roughly, but not precisely, meaning "whatever") |
| 09:49.02 | hrw | :DDDDDDDDDDDdd |
| 09:49.06 | hrw | http://www.qoheleth.uklinux.net/blog/?p=125#more-125 |
| 09:53.42 | florian_kc | *g* |
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| 10:22.53 | RP | morning all |
| 10:23.45 | hrw | hi RP |
| 10:23.54 | XorA | RP: yo |
| 10:24.03 | florian_kc | hi RP |
| 10:25.47 | koen | hi RP |
| 10:27.40 | hrw | cu |
| 10:29.20 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6a07f296... 10/ (1740 files in 868 dirs): |
| 10:29.20 | CIA-4 | Remove MAINTAINER fields from recipes, add MAINTAINER file to replace them. |
| 10:29.20 | CIA-4 | see email thread at http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2006-October/000523.html for details |
| 10:29.35 | koen | heh |
| 10:31.38 | XorA | koen: its nice for the sedding destruction I did on mplayer :-) |
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| 10:36.29 | lrg | morning all |
| 10:37.08 | RP | hi Liam |
| 10:37.52 | lrg | RP: hey |
| 10:38.10 | lrg | RP: iI'm submitting corgi etc to alsa today |
| 10:38.29 | RP | lrg: The core made it in? |
| 10:38.35 | lrg | RP: the core is now in and so is the smaller AT91 stuff |
| 10:38.46 | RP | lrg: yay :) |
| 10:38.54 | lrg | RP: yay :) |
| 10:39.04 | Crofton | bigd0g, ping |
| 10:39.12 | RP | lrg: fingers crossed for corgi etc :) |
| 10:39.13 | bigd0g | Crofton: pong |
| 10:39.17 | bigd0g | ;) |
| 10:39.28 | bigd0g | saw your e-mails on the omap list |
| 10:39.32 | Crofton | I made git boot and mount a jffs2 image |
| 10:39.41 | Crofton | did you try my images? |
| 10:40.01 | bigd0g | i didn't have a chance yet |
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| 10:40.25 | Crofton | ok |
| 10:40.35 | bigd0g | i have to give my final presentation for this project in a little bit |
| 10:40.39 | bigd0g | i'm finishing up my presentation |
| 10:40.39 | Crofton | the file system needs to load at 0x240000 |
| 10:40.41 | bigd0g | than i should have a chance |
| 10:41.25 | bigd0g | Crofton: how large was your kernel? |
| 10:41.34 | bigd0g | you must've used a compressed one if you were able to load at 0x240000 |
| 10:41.40 | Crofton | I forget, but it wasa compressed |
| 10:42.01 | bigd0g | for my reference, 'cause i will need to build a custom kernel... how do you compress it after it's built? |
| 10:42.02 | Crofton | I put the kernel at 0x40000 |
| 10:42.08 | bigd0g | aye |
| 10:42.10 | Crofton | the bb file does that |
| 10:42.32 | Crofton | the only problem in the bb file was the address passed to mkimage |
| 10:42.44 | bigd0g | i see |
| 10:42.48 | Crofton | and to build current git you need to enable the dspgw |
| 10:42.59 | bigd0g | saw that e-mail, too |
| 10:43.28 | koen | Crofton: so now you have a know working rev? |
| 10:43.48 | Crofton | http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?n=771 |
| 10:43.57 | Crofton | yeah |
| 10:45.58 | Crofton | I want a rev the will cmpile with the default kconfig |
| 10:47.14 | RP | koen: yay on the MAINTAINERS resolution btw :) |
| 10:48.29 | koen | RP: note the allusion to tarballs in my mail :) |
| 10:52.11 | XorA | koen: time to start the MAINTAINERS file |
| 10:53.55 | koen | XorA: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/MAINTAINERS ? |
| 10:54.08 | koen | feel free to change the format, this is just a starting point |
| 10:54.17 | XorA | koen: why not RECIPES? |
| 10:54.30 | koen | because that isn't a VAR in OE :) |
| 10:54.51 | koen | (is it?) |
| 10:55.03 | XorA | koen: nope, but makes the format look stupid |
| 10:55.05 | RP | koen: This isn't machine parsable :-/ |
| 10:56.18 | koen | hmm, good point |
| 10:58.55 | koen | It's amazing how 'package management' is so completely over the head of all the zaurus forum users |
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| 11:05.36 | koen | RP: does that file need to be machine parsable? |
| 11:08.45 | RP | koen: I think it would be nice if it was as it might get parsed at some point in the future - automated maintainer notifies? UI for .dev? |
| 11:09.13 | XorA | we should do it in ASN.1 :-) |
| 11:10.30 | XorA | but seriously RP is right, do it right now in case we want to use the info later |
| 11:11.06 | koen | I'll change my entry if someone comes up with a sane format :) |
| 11:13.14 | ade|desk | i like the recipe 'gpe stuff' |
| 11:16.26 | ade|desk | it would never be useful for machine parsing if the recipes aren't the bb files, so is there any point making it parse proof, or is it better to enforce exact recipes, any find some meaningful grouping like tasks |
| 11:16.54 | ade|desk | s/any/and |
| 11:17.51 | XorA | RP: koen http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/p8Ds8O13.html |
| 11:18.58 | ade|desk | XorA: real name and irc nick perhaps ,like the devs page on the wiki |
| 11:19.35 | XorA | ade|desk: thats what I had meant to type, I just forgot to edit before sticking that up |
| 11:19.43 | ade|desk | cool |
| 11:20.28 | ade|desk | DTD perhaps |
| 11:20.40 | XorA | DTD scare me |
| 11:20.46 | ade|desk | why / |
| 11:20.46 | RP | In Koen's original, s/ stuff/-*/ would solve most of the problems |
| 11:21.30 | XorA | ade|desk: thats documentation |
| 11:21.39 | RP | Hvaing support for gnome/* as in the directory might be good as it would match things gnome-* didn't |
| 11:22.09 | ade|desk | XorA: all source is documentaion ;) |
| 11:22.25 | XorA | ade|desk: then my DTD is C99 :-) |
| 11:24.04 | XorA | RP: I think the need to identify individual files or whole trees is essential if the aim is to maybe exapnd this to auto stuff |
| 11:24.40 | XorA | and maybe add an INTERESTS line which is english explanation of developers personal interests |
| 11:25.41 | XorA | eg INTERESTS: Multimedia playback in x11 and on console |
| 11:26.48 | RP | XorA: I'm fine with some english free text fields as well |
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| 11:27.29 | XorA | RP: it is good to have them so a new guy can quickly find the dev most likely to be able to help just by scanning the file |
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| 11:29.44 | ade|desk | maybe real XML might be good so that the info could be parsed to return who, what, and how to contact for interests etc |
| 11:30.06 | ade|desk | depends on the number of devs |
| 11:30.16 | koen | It should be human parsable as well |
| 11:30.40 | XorA | xml solves a problem that doesnt exist :-) |
| 11:30.48 | ade|desk | searching through 37 devs is ok, what happens in two years time when there are >500 ? |
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| 11:44.38 | koen | ooops |
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| 11:49.42 | O_Neil | can I define PREMIRROR() in local.conf instead of ".bb" or ".bbclass" file? |
| 11:51.54 | O_Neil | seems bitbake does not accept array defined in .conf |
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| 11:53.35 | [lala] | hi guys |
| 11:53.42 | lrg | hey [lala] |
| 11:53.49 | [lala] | ltns! |
| 11:54.02 | [lala] | hi lrg |
| 11:54.48 | [lala] | finally back to dig in oe again ;-) |
| 11:54.53 | [lala] | RP: around? |
| 11:56.41 | RP | hi [lala] |
| 11:57.41 | [lala] | RP: i noticed that a lot of packages use rdepends nowadays instead of depends. when i try to fetch only packages with -c fetch it fails for meta-packages ... |
| 11:57.50 | [lala] | is there a workaround |
| 11:57.51 | [lala] | ? |
| 11:57.57 | chouimat | morning |
| 11:58.21 | [lala] | well, it does not fail actually, but doesn't fetch the dependencies either ;-) |
| 11:59.34 | RP | [lala]: We need a fetchall task for this. We fixed various dependecy handling issues and "broke" the (incorrect) behvaviour users expect from certain commands |
| 11:59.55 | RP | [lala]: I've yet to get around to writing the fetchall task but its on my todo list |
| 12:00.09 | [lala] | sounds cool :-) |
| 12:00.27 | [lala] | but is there any (clever) way to achieve fetching in the meantime? :-) |
| 12:00.43 | [lala] | i have the huge problem, that my build-machine is not on the net |
| 12:00.53 | [lala] | and i have to get the packages offline |
| 12:01.06 | RP | [lala]: I made some untested comments in an email to the oe list recently |
| 12:01.25 | koen | RP: I wouldn't worry about zaurus users emailing you about poky, since they couldn't find the svn instructions on http://projects.o-hand.com/poky |
| 12:02.01 | RP | koen: I was rather amused by that. "I can't use svn" yet the commandline is in front of me |
| 12:02.33 | RP | If people can't read, I don't want them using poky... |
| 12:02.50 | [lala] | RP: you happen to know the subject of this post or have an url handy? |
| 12:02.53 | koen | RP: welcome to hrw's world |
| 12:06.04 | RP | [lala]: http://www.mail-archive.com/bitbake-dev%40lists.berlios.de/msg00081.html |
| 12:06.31 | [lala] | RP: thanks! |
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| 12:23.36 | koen | RP: you'll like the next commit |
| 12:25.15 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7be36630... 10/ (13 files in 10 dirs): |
| 12:25.15 | CIA-4 | hx4700, hx2000: start adding support for hx4700 and hx200 ipaqs to solve overloading of the ipaq-pxa270 machine |
| 12:25.15 | CIA-4 | * the ipaq-pxa270 machine will go away |
| 12:26.30 | psokolovsky_ | koen: Yay! Thanks for taking care of that, I still didn't get to writing RFC for that still... |
| 12:26.43 | koen | hrw|afk poked me about that on OEDEM |
| 12:27.06 | koen | we also agreed that more stuff should be runtime configurable, like tslib-conf |
| 12:27.43 | psokolovsky_ | koen: One request though: would it be possible to let ipaq-pxa270 to hang on for some time more in the form of "include hx4700.conf" (for familiar-unstable)? |
| 12:27.46 | psokolovsky_ | koen: Cool! |
| 12:30.23 | koen | psokolovsky_: ipaq-pxa270 will go away completely |
| 12:31.01 | psokolovsky_ | koen, ok. not too important. those who need it can add locally. |
| 12:31.05 | koen | koen: I don't want to support hacks to support unmaintained stuff |
| 12:31.28 | psokolovsky_ | ok |
| 12:33.32 | koen | people that want to build for a hx4700 can do MACHINE=hx47000 |
| 12:33.32 | koen | The ipaq-pxa270 entries in the kernels will go away as well soon |
| 12:33.32 | koen | which will fix the 'OE builds linux-oz for hostap-modules' bug |
| 12:34.29 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc492bf6e... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus.inc): linux-oz.inc: fix breakage introduced by the MAINTAINERS cset |
| 12:35.04 | Crofton | hmm, th ebreakage is some unparsed line messages coming from bb? |
| 12:35.15 | koen | yeah |
| 12:36.00 | Crofton | fixed now? |
| 12:36.08 | koen | the linux-oz one |
| 12:36.31 | Crofton | I am blowing away tmp and rebuilding atm |
| 12:39.48 | hrw|work | re |
| 12:39.55 | koen | hrw|work: wb |
| 12:42.51 | [lala] | RP: where would that line "do_fetch[recrdeptask]..." be placed best? is local.conf apropriate? or in some class file? |
| 12:43.26 | hrw|work | koen: finally new machines |
| 12:47.51 | hrw|work | ok. its time for me to boot win32 again... |
| 12:47.54 | hrw|work | ~cure mssql |
| 12:48.06 | hrw|work | ~curse mssql |
| 12:48.09 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, mssql ! |
| 12:48.37 | RP | [lala]: probably local.conf for now. It doesn't solve the problem in a way I'd like |
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| 13:04.05 | koen | bleh |
| 13:04.14 | koen | death by mailinglist subscriptions |
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| 13:19.51 | koen | XorA: what are the chances of you and lrg attending FOSDEM 2007? |
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| 13:19.59 | hrw|work | hi |
| 13:20.35 | koen | hrw|work: wb |
| 13:21.45 | [lala] | RP: there is another workaround which i can use in the meantime: bitbake -n opie-image -> extract all package names -> bitbake -c fetch <pkglist> |
| 13:22.19 | RP | [lala]: The recrdeptask didn't work? |
| 13:23.21 | XorA | koen: 100% |
| 13:23.29 | [lala] | RP: haven't tested it yet because i had that other idea and wanted to try that out first. will check your approach as well. |
| 13:23.46 | koen | XorA: cool |
| 13:24.39 | RP | [lala]: ok, just curious :) |
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| 13:46.48 | koen | RP: I can't find neither 'speed' or 'heading' in http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1/#type_rteType |
| 13:47.17 | koen | RP: it seems one has to calculate those afterwards or put then in the <cmt> section |
| 13:47.40 | RP | koen: ugh :-( |
| 13:48.36 | koen | my latest awk script: http://rafb.net/paste/results/F8NDVi84.html |
| 13:49.21 | koen | now I need to to adapt the log script to give the correct output :) |
| 13:54.02 | hrw|work | koen: how good is hx4700 already supported? friend is thinking about buying |
| 13:54.42 | koen | everything works, the wifi works pretty good |
| 13:54.58 | koen | for more details ask pH5, he hacks on the kernel :) |
| 13:55.03 | hrw|work | ok |
| 13:55.20 | hrw|work | its ~300EUR now in Poland |
| 13:55.24 | hrw|work | used one |
| 14:01.58 | [lala] | RP: i just get a circular dependency error if i try bitbake -c fetch opie-image with your approach |
| 14:10.34 | RP | [lala]: hmm, ok. I need to give it some further thought |
| 14:13.06 | [lala] | a fetchall target would be cool, but my workaround with extracting the pkglist from bitbake -n works well enough for me atm :-) |
| 14:14.24 | RP | [lala]: We need it for a source mirror so it will happen, just a question of time. I think I know how to do it, I just need to test it |
| 14:14.40 | koen | RP: bitbake_qa |
| 14:15.22 | RP | koen: We don't need that though - we can do it in bitbake itself (well, OE), with no real extra effort if I'm right |
| 14:15.37 | koen | that'd be nice as well |
| 14:16.05 | RP | koen: right :) |
| 14:17.36 | koen | I have scheduled some time tonight to setup bonsai on oe.org, so hopefully we can start with the tarballs soon |
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| 14:19.48 | likewise | I am working on adding squashfs3.1r2-{,lzma}-{,native} support. What is the proper way to call a submake to make cross-compiles still work? |
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| 14:22.37 | hrw|work | likewise: oe_runmake |
| 14:23.24 | likewise | hrw|work: I have a Makefile that does "make -C <some_dir>". I should remove this, and move it up into the bb recipe instead? |
| 14:24.32 | likewise | hrw|work: So I also would need to set EXTRA_OEMAKE to "-C <some_dir>" then? |
| 14:27.08 | hrw|work | likewise: oe_runmake -C somedir |
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| 14:32.34 | hrw|work | brb |
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| 14:44.26 | hrw | re |
| 14:47.49 | koen | hrw|work: wb |
| 14:49.33 | likewise | hrw|work: tnx, trying to get it to work like that. |
| 14:52.51 | [lala] | can someone give me a reason, why spectrum-fw.bb tries to fetch files with a separate script (get_symbol_fw) instead of using the default fetcher? |
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| 14:53.53 | [lala] | that doesn't work so well with an offline build machine |
| 14:55.28 | hrw|work | koen: what about creating -private list? |
| 15:02.11 | bigd0g | Crofton: *poke* *poke* |
| 15:02.29 | Crofton | yep? |
| 15:02.40 | bigd0g | Crofton: your stuff appears to be loading properly |
| 15:02.41 | bigd0g | ;) |
| 15:02.45 | Crofton | good |
| 15:02.59 | bigd0g | now... was that build done with OE ? |
| 15:03.00 | Crofton | I am in the process of verifying it builds really clean now |
| 15:03.04 | bigd0g | ah, ok |
| 15:03.31 | Crofton | thanks for your help getting this stuff going |
| 15:03.53 | koen | hrw|work: you'd have to ask mr mailman mickey|ttdevdays |
| 15:04.02 | bigd0g | meh... i didn't do much. thanks for getting it running ;) |
| 15:04.16 | Crofton | having people interested helps alot |
| 15:04.17 | hrw|work | ok |
| 15:04.28 | hrw|work | mickey|ttdevdays: I want -private list |
| 15:04.29 | bigd0g | aye. that's true. |
| 15:04.37 | Crofton | I think I have learned a lot more about some of the bits and pieces |
| 15:04.40 | bigd0g | Crofton: does this build have framebuffer support? 'm guessing not |
| 15:05.03 | bigd0g | i've learned a helluva lot in the last 10 weeks. have all of OE to thank for that |
| 15:05.09 | Crofton | it is make omap5912osk_defconfig moded to have dspgw turned on |
| 15:05.27 | Crofton | I am not sure if the fb is included in that |
| 15:05.42 | bigd0g | i'll double-check. if not, i should be able to modify accordingly |
| 15:05.52 | Crofton | Eventually, I want to make the git bb file track git and use the default config |
| 15:06.02 | Crofton | so I can use it to check compilation in git |
| 15:06.11 | bigd0g | that would be superb |
| 15:06.13 | Crofton | then I can create kernel files against stable tags |
| 15:06.18 | Crofton | for real use |
| 15:06.29 | bigd0g | aye |
| 15:07.04 | Crofton | I'll leave the stuff on using a local config commented out in the bb file to make it clear what you need to do for experiemnts |
| 15:07.35 | bigd0g | ok. that would be great |
| 15:07.39 | Crofton | yeah |
| 15:08.03 | bigd0g | before this, i had never done a custom compile of something like this from the ground up |
| 15:08.07 | bigd0g | it's been quite the ride |
| 15:08.14 | Crofton | I think cruft creeps in to the omap tree because there are so many hw platforms |
| 15:08.32 | Crofton | you are going back to wpi soon? |
| 15:08.59 | bigd0g | i head back on saturday. but apparently there's another osk project going on there... i've already been asked to assist. so you won't lose me anytime soon |
| 15:09.07 | Crofton | great |
| 15:09.13 | Crofton | what are you studying? |
| 15:09.33 | bigd0g | i'm an ECE undergrad with a CS minor. i'll be getting my BS in may |
| 15:09.48 | Crofton | going to grad school? |
| 15:10.05 | bigd0g | the option is there. that or straight to industry and do grad school while in industry |
| 15:10.10 | bigd0g | i definitely want a graduate degree |
| 15:10.13 | bigd0g | just not sure when |
| 15:10.13 | Crofton | industry sucks :) |
| 15:10.17 | bigd0g | haha |
| 15:10.41 | Crofton | well, if you are interested in software defined radio look us up |
| 15:10.45 | Crofton | ossie.mprg.org |
| 15:10.51 | bigd0g | will do. |
| 15:11.16 | Crofton | ece undergrad with cs minor is a good mix for sdr work |
| 15:11.42 | bigd0g | aye. my focus is in computer engineering, too. so this project was sort of a perfect match |
| 15:11.51 | koen | PhilipBalister aka The OMAP guy |
| 15:12.01 | bigd0g | :) |
| 15:12.26 | Crofton | the problem with wiki's, the peanut gallery chimes in |
| 15:12.44 | bigd0g | haha |
| 15:12.58 | bigd0g | i already read the site. i think i did that yesterday while waiting for stuff to compile |
| 15:13.53 | Crofton | now that I have this booting again I can start building our sdr framework with oe |
| 15:14.15 | Crofton | then I will bog down the OSK and go beg for more interesting embedded systems :) |
| 15:14.16 | koen | "if you give me faster hardware I will have less time to write these annoying letters" |
| 15:14.21 | bigd0g | oh, i was going to asdk how new the project is |
| 15:14.24 | bigd0g | apparently _brand_ new |
| 15:14.25 | bigd0g | ;) |
| 15:14.31 | bigd0g | s/asdk/ask |
| 15:14.43 | Crofton | I have been messing with it for a while |
| 15:14.51 | Crofton | kind of a secondary thing |
| 15:14.56 | Crofton | I had it sort of working once |
| 15:15.11 | Crofton | now I am trying to make it keep working .... |
| 15:15.20 | bigd0g | ah, yes |
| 15:15.20 | Crofton | fixing all the bits I had to work around |
| 15:15.34 | bigd0g | that's great. the whole SDR thing sounds cool |
| 15:15.38 | Crofton | it is |
| 15:15.52 | Crofton | much cooler now the gnu radio guys sell the usrp cheap |
| 15:15.54 | Crofton | ~usrp |
| 15:15.55 | ibot | usrp is probably a Universal Software Radio Peripheral or http://comsec.com/wiki?UniversalSoftwareRadioPeripheral |
| 15:17.01 | koen | "The price for the motherboard is $550, and basic daughterboards cost $75 each." |
| 15:17.16 | bigd0g | pricey for me, but with grants i can see it being considered 'cheap' |
| 15:17.22 | bigd0g | well... the osk was some $300 us |
| 15:17.23 | bigd0g | so... heh |
| 15:17.34 | Crofton | koen, cheap compared with other solutions |
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| 15:18.00 | Crofton | I define cheap as my advisor will buy these no quesitons asked |
| 15:18.14 | Crofton | so we have close to ten in the lab now |
| 15:18.17 | likewise | Anyone get their EFIKA 5200 board already? |
| 15:18.21 | likewise | s/get/got |
| 15:18.22 | bigd0g | Crofton: that's great |
| 15:18.42 | koen | likewise: not yet |
| 15:18.42 | bigd0g | Crofton: are you an RA at VT or staff/faculty ? |
| 15:18.52 | Crofton | Grad student |
| 15:18.55 | Crofton | slow one |
| 15:18.59 | koen | a firewire 800 or pci-e interface would rock |
| 15:19.04 | bigd0g | MS, PhD, other? |
| 15:19.05 | likewise | koen: got approved, but I think _nobody_ has their board yet. |
| 15:19.26 | koen | likewise: check http://www.ppczone.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=2 |
| 15:20.13 | likewise | koen: ah yes "We are still trying to get RoHS compliant components. However, in the meanwhile, we have some features and functions that will make the wait worthwhile. " |
| 15:20.26 | likewise | koen: delayed 6 months :-) |
| 15:20.39 | likewise | koen: best educated guess |
| 15:21.26 | koen | likewise: http://projects.ppczone.org/projects.php?project=213 |
| 15:21.55 | koen | likewise: http://projects.ppczone.org/projects.php?pending=309 |
| 15:22.23 | koen | and of course http://projects.ppczone.org/projects.php?pending=449 :) |
| 15:22.24 | Crofton | anyone proposing adding support to oe for that board? |
| 15:22.37 | bigd0g | time to clean, pull the git, and try to build my own version |
| 15:22.38 | likewise | koen: efika5200.conf? :-) http://projects.ppczone.org/projects.php?pending=449 |
| 15:23.18 | koen | like|gohome: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine/efika.conf |
| 15:23.19 | Crofton | are they still accepting projects? |
| 15:23.27 | like|gohome | cu all gotta run to catch the postbox fetch deadline |
| 15:24.16 | koen | "The EFIKA will ship in November." |
| 15:24.23 | koen | Crofton: yes |
| 15:24.47 | koen | see http://www.ppczone.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=841 |
| 15:24.53 | Crofton | high speed usb? |
| 15:25.08 | bigd0g | usb2, i would guess |
| 15:25.11 | koen | iirc, yes |
| 15:25.20 | koen | bigd0g: usb 2 can be 12mbit/s as well :( |
| 15:25.39 | bigd0g | koen: oh :-/ gg, marketing |
| 15:25.48 | Crofton | has a fpu |
| 15:26.12 | Crofton | 1.1 host |
| 15:26.18 | Crofton | usb that sux0rs |
| 15:26.41 | koen | does the final design have any pci/agp slots? |
| 15:26.48 | hrw|work | koen: http://pastebin.ca/196386 |
| 15:26.51 | Crofton | apparently |
| 15:27.38 | CosmicPenguin | heh - Crofton is a USB 2.0 moth.. :) |
| 15:27.55 | CosmicPenguin | he is attracted to the 2.0 |
| 15:28.00 | Crofton | heh |
| 15:28.02 | CosmicPenguin | he is nurtured by the 2.0 |
| 15:28.19 | koen | hrw|work, XorA: could you mail you suggestions to the oe-devel mailinglist? |
| 15:28.25 | Crofton | mainly for usrp support, but on these lower perfomrmance machhines it is not much of an issue |
| 15:28.34 | Crofton | since I can hack usrp to work at full speed |
| 15:29.03 | hrw|work | koen: what was XorA suggestion? |
| 15:29.24 | bigd0g | i'll bbl |
| 15:29.30 | Crofton | reality is on the smaller machines I couldn't processor full rate data from a high speed interface |
| 15:31.30 | koen | hrw|work: something like http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/p8Ds8O13.html |
| 15:32.18 | hrw|work | koen: look again |
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| 15:34.31 | hrw|work | sent |
| 15:35.45 | koen | hrw|work: don't we have 4 poodles nowadays? |
| 15:36.06 | hrw|work | koen: officially OE has 2 |
| 15:36.25 | XorA | koen: the MAINTAINERS one? |
| 15:36.41 | hrw|work | koen: I'm not sure about status of RP and CoreDump ones |
| 15:37.18 | koen | XorA: yes |
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| 15:40.49 | XorA | koen: gone |
| 15:40.55 | hrw|work | cu all |
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| 16:15.10 | Genesis | AGG packaged |
| 16:16.41 | Crofton | I suspect someone has already suggested this ..... |
| 16:16.55 | Crofton | should the MAINTAINER file be in XML? |
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| 16:19.23 | psokolovsky | and base64-encoded ;-) |
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| 16:23.32 | Genesis | Crofton, : i don't think so , i searshed on the bugtrack before :) |
| 16:23.35 | Genesis | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1464 mine |
| 16:24.13 | Genesis | a+ |
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| 18:44.48 | hrw | hi |
| 18:44.59 | den-ros | hrw: hi |
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| 18:46.23 | hrw | hi den-ros |
| 18:48.42 | den-ros | hrw: :) |
| 18:49.06 | hrw | food time anyway |
| 18:49.07 | hrw | afk |
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| 19:15.51 | netdude505 | help |
| 19:16.25 | netdude505 | hello cbrake |
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| 19:32.39 | koen | NAiL: see the angstrom distro configs on how to select glibc 2.4 |
| 19:33.45 | hrw|afk | Fscking openoffice.org |
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| 20:20.13 | hrw | ~curse abiword for very shitty OpenDocument support |
| 20:20.22 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, abiword for very shitty OpenDocument support ! |
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| 20:21.57 | hrw | run abiword, add table, merge cells, save |
| 20:22.15 | hrw | run abiword, load document, say fsck after looking at table |
| 20:22.41 | hrw | looks like best way to do invoice printout is to create HTML page |
| 20:23.16 | koen | sounds like ORcad |
| 20:23.32 | koen | route board, check status -> 100%, save |
| 20:23.44 | koen | load, check status -> 96% |
| 20:24.43 | hrw | #define SHIT "abiword" |
| 20:27.15 | koen | why use opendocument? |
| 20:27.21 | koen | pdf should be good enough, right? |
| 20:27.33 | koen | or even rtf |
| 20:29.32 | hrw | koen: first have to edit then will generate pdf |
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| 20:43.45 | hvontres|poodle | koen: are you stuck with orcad? I used Kicad for a simple project and it was not too bad :) |
| 20:50.27 | kerwood | heh heh...if you like OE you'll love gEDA -- a million things to remember but produces gold when it does succeed |
| 20:53.38 | CIA-4 | 03erik 07org.oe.dev * rb54fe8fa... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb): |
| 20:53.38 | CIA-4 | glibc |
| 20:53.38 | CIA-4 | * Formatting change to the SRC_URI list. Zecke's patch used spaces instead |
| 20:53.38 | CIA-4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:53.44 | CIA-4 | 03erik 07org.oe.dev * r56dc8d7e... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:53.44 | CIA-4 | handhelds-sa 2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh42 |
| 20:53.44 | CIA-4 | * The defconfig-h3600 file was missing a few import options, specifically: |
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| 21:04.32 | koen | kerwood: I even added geda to OE a while back |
| 21:04.46 | koen | hvontres|poodle: no, I used it for a uni project a while ago |
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| 21:13.04 | CIA-4 | 03erik 07org.oe.dev * r3c8ee145... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:13.04 | CIA-4 | ntp 4.2.2p3 |
| 21:13.04 | CIA-4 | * There is a newer minor release of ntp. This commit provides the bb and |
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| 21:19.26 | koen | no more board design for me anymore :) |
| 21:19.34 | koen | just more death-by-matlab |
| 21:19.51 | koen | and zecke will pop up saying "use octave" |
| 21:20.54 | T0mW | well, this project I'm on is going to need a whole handfull of new board designs. |
| 21:28.37 | hrw | boards... |
| 21:28.58 | hrw | Asus A8V-X will probably be next board |
| 21:29.09 | hrw | first have to find someone who will buy my current one |
| 21:29.54 | koen | meh |
| 21:30.04 | koen | why do people keep doing PACKAGEG = "foo" |
| 21:30.58 | hvontres|poodle | koen: nah, use scilab instead :) |
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| 21:36.30 | T0mW | hrw: A8N-MV CSM here, not too thrilled with the GeForce-3 chipset. Gigabit LAN won't function fully. |
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| 21:36.35 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb416fffd... 10/ (1 packages/ntp/ntp_4.2.2p3.bb): |
| 21:36.35 | CIA-4 | ntp: fixes |
| 21:36.35 | CIA-4 | * don't use PACKAGES = "foo", that breaks debug packages |
| 21:36.35 | CIA-4 | * removed bogus looking nylon override |
| 21:36.35 | CIA-4 | * we have an scm, so no need to comment lines |
| 21:36.35 | CIA-4 | * please conform to the styleguide when adding recipes |
| 21:37.15 | CosmicPenguin | yeah! |
| 21:37.44 | hrw | T0mW: I plan to avoid !VIA mainboards |
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| 21:38.13 | T0mW | hrw: every freakin' time I get an NForce board, I get burned somehow |
| 21:38.22 | CosmicPenguin | don't touch the processor then |
| 21:38.32 | T0mW | heh |
| 21:38.57 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: AMD X2 4800+ runs really cool with the stock AMD heatsink! |
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| 21:39.07 | koen | CosmicPenguin: any 8 way opterons idling at amd? |
| 21:39.31 | CosmicPenguin | yeah - on my quake server |
| 21:39.36 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
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| 21:40.00 | T0mW | that would be the next step for OE, a beowulf cluster so people can login and do their builds from there. |
| 21:40.02 | T0mW | ;) |
| 21:40.19 | koen | T0mW: that's actually planned |
| 21:40.29 | koen | complete with qemu images for 'native' dev |
| 21:41.23 | hrw | I have to take time and answer all those guys which offered mirrors or even build power for OZ |
| 21:41.52 | T0mW | koen: well, if you are not joking about such a thing, I could be persuaded to make a donation |
| 21:43.27 | koen | I'm not joking, but we need a good tinderbox and bonsai first |
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| 21:49.08 | hrw | cu |
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| 22:01.00 | v8jlene | morning |
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| 22:35.44 | koen | NOTE: package glibc-2.5-r0: task do_configure: started |
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| 22:45.41 | JustinP | 2.5? |
| 22:45.56 | JustinP | koen: ah, I doubt you saw my note from yesterday...? |
| 22:46.15 | koen | I didn't see it |
| 22:46.31 | JustinP | glibc fails to configure with packaged-staging (in dev) |
| 22:46.38 | JustinP | it doesn't see the kernel headers |
| 22:46.43 | JustinP | don't know if this is a known problem or not.... |
| 22:47.11 | JustinP | could also be how I'm "including" ipkg-cl (using the staging dir of my normal bitbake env in my PATH) |
| 22:47.25 | koen | glibc works fine over here with packaged-staging |
| 22:47.28 | JustinP | and it might be that it's just not ready and I'm jumping the gun ;-) |
| 22:47.31 | JustinP | hmmm |
| 22:47.42 | koen | 2.4 that is |
| 22:47.54 | JustinP | well, I made a clean build env, clean and new local.conf, added INHERIT += "packaged-staging" and it fails on glibc |
| 22:48.05 | JustinP | I'll get the error quick |
| 22:48.36 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1e03dbbb... 10/ (6 files in 5 dirs): |
| 22:48.36 | CIA-4 | psplash: add psplash from poky |
| 22:48.36 | CIA-4 | sane-srcdates: lock down psplash to today |
| 22:48.36 | JustinP | does it require a certain version of bitbake? |
| 22:49.13 | JustinP | I'm using 1.6 |
| 22:49.39 | JustinP | koen: hmmm...ok, well I'm trying oz and it's using glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r12 |
| 22:51.19 | JustinP | and angstrom with packaged-staging fails on gcc-cross-4.1.1-r7 trying to find linux/errno.h |
| 22:51.46 | JustinP | tmp/staging/arm-linux/include/linux has files.... |
| 22:52.12 | koen | sounds like a missing linux-libc-headers package |
| 22:52.23 | koen | you do have stage-manager in your PATH, right? |
| 22:52.40 | JustinP | yes |
| 22:53.36 | JustinP | mp/work/armv5te-linux/linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1-r2/install/linux-libc-headers-dev/ has all of the files I'd expect |
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| 22:54.54 | JustinP | hmmm, odd... |
| 22:55.00 | JustinP | ack....I might know what it is... |
| 22:55.18 | JustinP | what is the preferred way to install ipkg-cl locally? |
| 22:57.22 | koen | I just installed ipkg and ipkg-utils into /usr/local/bin |
| 23:05.30 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9ab4778f... 10/ (8 files in 5 dirs): |
| 23:05.30 | CIA-4 | angstrom: add psplash to images |
| 23:05.30 | CIA-4 | sysvinit: add rc and rcS from poky to enable psplash |
| 23:07.31 | JustinP | HDs are much faster with DMA on ;-) |
| 23:08.03 | JustinP | and SATA kicks a lot of ass, at least in my extre,ely limited testing |
| 23:08.21 | koen | scsi kicks more ass |
| 23:08.39 | JustinP | I've only used SCSI once myself....never had the reason |
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| 23:09.31 | JustinP | only home machines :-) |
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| 23:13.32 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3bcdeb94... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc_2.5.bb): |
| 23:13.33 | CIA-4 | glibc 2.5: add version that builds, not tested on device yet |
| 23:13.33 | CIA-4 | * zecke-sane-readelf needs refreshing |
| 23:13.33 | CIA-4 | * other non-applying patches seen to have been applied, but references have been left in for further inspection |
| 23:15.51 | koen | lets see if that helped against the insomnia |
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| 23:18.44 | Laibsch | ~logs |
| 23:18.50 | ibot | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 23:26.26 | JustinP | argh |
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