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| 09:21.16 | nicolasfr | hi there |
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| 12:10.51 | koen_oedem | pretty quiet in here |
| 12:11.11 | zecke | yes, every one is focused |
| 12:11.47 | den-ros | koen_oedem: zecke: hi |
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| 12:31.48 | RP_oedem | focused? :) |
| 12:32.37 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r7272e175... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): packaged-staging.bbclass: add some usage notes |
| 12:32.44 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4a0f2707... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): |
| 12:32.44 | CIA-4 | packaged-staging.bbclass: Add a class to put staging/ under package management |
| 12:32.44 | CIA-4 | * see the notes inside the class how to use it |
| 12:32.44 | CIA-4 | * to view development history, have a look at the org.openembedded.packaged-staging branch |
| 12:33.52 | zecke | koen: focused? |
| 12:34.05 | koen | zecke: I am |
| 12:34.22 | zecke | on what? |
| 12:34.32 | koen | on your striped sweater |
| 12:35.14 | zecke | koen: I have everything striped, with every color |
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| 12:37.09 | bigd0g | ...all...the...colors... |
| 12:39.18 | nicolasfr | hi koen. Have you seen my PM? |
| 12:39.43 | koen | nicolasfr: I affraid not |
| 12:40.32 | bigd0g | does OE download 'mkimage' for me and put it somewhere? |
| 12:40.36 | nicolasfr | just send it again, do you see it? |
| 12:40.41 | bigd0g | i'm trying to find it ;) |
| 12:40.55 | Crofton | mkimage comes from u-boot |
| 12:41.05 | bigd0g | ahh, now i remember |
| 12:42.00 | nicolasfr | btw spitz/updater.sh needs to be edited in org.oe.dev (Angstrom) to add support for C3200. |
| 12:42.21 | bigd0g | Crofton: where does u-boot get assembled in OE? is it specified in the bb file? |
| 12:42.42 | bigd0g | i tried a 'find mkimage' ... but it doesn't appear to turn up |
| 12:42.46 | Crofton | kernel depends on u-boot |
| 12:42.56 | Crofton | should be in staging bin somewhere |
| 12:43.05 | bigd0g | 'staging' ... thanks |
| 12:43.09 | Crofton | tmp/staging |
| 12:43.13 | bigd0g | yep |
| 12:43.22 | Crofton | sorry I am not much more help |
| 12:43.36 | Crofton | laptop is on the hotel window on a trash can |
| 12:43.44 | bigd0g | no, that's fine... i was in the right spot... some more finds should help me get it |
| 12:43.52 | bigd0g | ooh... that's kind of dicey |
| 12:43.56 | Crofton | yeah |
| 12:44.04 | bigd0g | leeching wifi ? |
| 12:44.08 | Crofton | the wireless is kind of spoty :) |
| 12:44.23 | Crofton | well they have free city wide wireless at the moment |
| 12:44.39 | bigd0g | oh, cool. sucks it's spotty, tho |
| 12:44.43 | Crofton | yeah |
| 12:44.44 | bigd0g | cantenna, ftw ! |
| 12:44.55 | Crofton | I was wandering about with my 770 yesterday and not having luck |
| 12:45.11 | Crofton | yeah, I need an eternal nic so I can do antenna stuff |
| 12:46.44 | bigd0g | 'mkimage' gets tucked in '../tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin' if anyone needs to find it ;) |
| 12:47.09 | bigd0g | all in good time, i suppose |
| 12:47.14 | bigd0g | i've been wanting to make a cantenna for a while |
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| 12:49.24 | d | yello! |
| 12:49.55 | d | is mr rp present? |
| 12:50.14 | d | rp? |
| 12:50.37 | RP_oedem | d: hi? |
| 12:50.50 | d | hi there! |
| 12:51.24 | d | so SRAM accelerated pxafb is supported now is it? |
| 12:51.38 | RP_oedem | no? |
| 12:51.48 | d | no? |
| 12:51.52 | d | ? |
| 12:52.16 | d | just that koen can't seem to make his mind up on this |
| 12:52.22 | RP_oedem | we have pxafb overlay support. We don't have SRAM support yet |
| 12:52.35 | d | he just posted to oesf saying there was an SRAM patch |
| 12:52.58 | RP_oedem | There is an SRAM patch. We don't use it as it isn't hooked into pxafb |
| 12:53.26 | d | so is SRAM support just a matter of finding time to do it or do you not know quite how yet? |
| 12:53.37 | d | oh right |
| 12:53.52 | d | is that a big job? |
| 12:55.07 | RP_oedem | For QVGA, it should be straightforward. For VGA, there is someone working on it but its much harder as VGA doesn't fit into SRAM |
| 12:55.43 | d | will X and SDL automatically be a bit faster once SRAM support goes in or will they both need to be patched? |
| 12:56.06 | RP_oedem | it would be automatic |
| 12:56.17 | d | great great great! |
| 12:56.22 | d | :) |
| 12:56.35 | d | who's hadling vga? |
| 12:56.41 | d | handling, even |
| 12:57.33 | nicolasfr | To install Angstrom I have just built on my C3200 I guess I have to "tar zcf" the rootfs (bitbake has made a bz2)? |
| 12:58.35 | nicolasfr | I mean I have just build Angstrom and want to install on the C3200... |
| 12:59.15 | d | rp: is there not some any res between QVGA and VGA that the Z screen can display that would fit into SRAM? |
| 12:59.26 | RP_oedem | it might not be possible for VGA, we don't know. See the Linux-arm-Kernel mailing list about posts from a Steve Newbury |
| 13:00.01 | RP_oedem | d: The screen can only display two resolutions |
| 13:00.17 | d | ah well! |
| 13:00.24 | bigd0g | i appear to have my mkimage command incorrect. " mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 0x10008000 -n "Linux Kernel Image" " |
| 13:00.26 | bigd0g | any suggestions? |
| 13:01.13 | d | Thanks for answering all my questions RP! |
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| 13:03.16 | bigd0g | Crofton: still about? |
| 13:04.44 | Crofton | yeah |
| 13:05.18 | bigd0g | the 'mkimage' command that Dirk gave to me refers to a /tftboot/uimage file |
| 13:05.28 | bigd0g | is 'uimage' an app or something? |
| 13:05.38 | Crofton | that sounds like the output file |
| 13:05.46 | Crofton | can you email me the file? |
| 13:06.07 | bigd0g | i don't have a uimage file... that's what i'm trying to find |
| 13:06.11 | bigd0g | i can forward his e-mail, if you'd like |
| 13:06.23 | Crofton | uIamge is the kernel that gets loaded into the OSK |
| 13:06.45 | bigd0g | hrm... |
| 13:06.53 | bigd0g | let me forward you his e-mail |
| 13:06.55 | Crofton | ok |
| 13:07.09 | Crofton | run the command and you shoud get the uimage file |
| 13:08.10 | leoncamel | mosi,mosi |
| 13:08.21 | bigd0g | Crofton: the command he gave me doesn't work |
| 13:08.33 | Crofton | hmm |
| 13:08.42 | Crofton | what happens? can you pastebin the result? |
| 13:08.54 | bigd0g | ohhh |
| 13:08.55 | bigd0g | i got it |
| 13:09.12 | bigd0g | the explanation of what 'uimage' was helped |
| 13:09.19 | Crofton | :) |
| 13:09.22 | bigd0g | just a name/location i choose |
| 13:09.23 | bigd0g | :) |
| 13:09.27 | Crofton | exactly |
| 13:09.44 | Crofton | lazy people put it straight in the downlod dir for tftp |
| 13:10.01 | Crofton | you may see some commented out lines in some of my ealier kernel bbfiles |
| 13:10.22 | RP_oedem | Crofton, how goes work on getting omap kernel booting? (hrw) |
| 13:10.36 | Crofton | I am traveling |
| 13:10.45 | Crofton | bigd0g, sounds like he is getting somewhere |
| 13:10.47 | RP_oedem | ok |
| 13:10.55 | Crofton | we are checking over kerenl assembly proceess |
| 13:11.23 | bigd0g | Crofton: aye, it sounds like Dirk has a running copy |
| 13:11.29 | Crofton | yeah |
| 13:11.38 | bigd0g | now... if only i can duplicate it :-/ |
| 13:11.40 | Crofton | I just can't see what the problem is |
| 13:12.38 | Crofton | bigd0g, did you email the file? |
| 13:13.11 | bigd0g | Crofton: are you referring to Dirk's 'defconfig' file ? |
| 13:13.17 | Crofton | no |
| 13:13.23 | Crofton | the one with the mkimage command |
| 13:13.35 | bigd0g | yes, just forwarded it to you... let me check that it sent |
| 13:14.11 | bigd0g | Crofton: appears to have been sent. it's just a forwarded e-mail. command is within |
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| 13:20.37 | bigd0g | Crofton: did you get it? i'm skeptical it's going to prove anything different |
| 13:21.10 | Crofton | I got it |
| 13:21.13 | Crofton | still worth a try |
| 13:21.29 | bigd0g | yeah. copying to board atm |
| 13:21.39 | Crofton | at least it helps understand what is going on .. |
| 13:21.46 | bigd0g | aye |
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| 13:27.11 | bigd0g | Crofton: http://rafb.net/paste/results/MeqOo156.html |
| 13:27.16 | bigd0g | ...some improvement |
| 13:29.41 | Crofton | excellent |
| 13:29.47 | Crofton | now you need rootfs! |
| 13:30.18 | bigd0g | w00t ... let me write that to flash and grab rootfs |
| 13:30.46 | Crofton | did you gzip the kernel? |
| 13:30.58 | bigd0g | negative. that's an uncompressed version |
| 13:31.02 | Crofton | ok |
| 13:31.04 | bigd0g | plain bin |
| 13:31.37 | Crofton | we can sort that out later |
| 13:31.44 | Crofton | and get bb file updates |
| 13:31.56 | bigd0g | aye |
| 13:32.17 | bigd0g | if i can get it working uncompressed... i'll consider that a BIG step forward |
| 13:32.25 | Crofton | yep :) |
| 13:32.38 | Crofton | ok |
| 13:32.41 | Crofton | I need to get going |
| 13:32.44 | Crofton | good luck! |
| 13:32.57 | bigd0g | always running off when the fun starts... ;) |
| 13:32.59 | bigd0g | hf ! |
| 13:33.03 | Crofton | thnaks |
| 13:33.12 | Crofton | sounds like you are well on yur way |
| 13:33.32 | Crofton | post soething here if you get it going, I'll try and check back in a little bit |
| 13:33.34 | bigd0g | i'll be sure to send you an e-mail if and when i get it all working |
| 13:33.38 | bigd0g | ok, sure thing |
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| 14:21.22 | koen | zecke: beefcake! |
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| 15:23.52 | Cobelius | hi |
| 15:25.03 | bigd0g | which server is it that's having trouble? |
| 15:25.12 | bigd0g | i want to make sure i'm not on it :p |
| 15:26.32 | Cobelius | wich values are possible for LICENSE? |
| 15:26.37 | Cobelius | Is it only GPL or some more? |
| 15:27.07 | zecke | Cobelius: hehe |
| 15:27.13 | Cobelius | hi zecke |
| 15:27.30 | zecke | Cobelius: LICENSE == the license of the program |
| 15:28.00 | Cobelius | Sure, but how does BitBake behave if something else stands in it? |
| 15:28.30 | Cobelius | i.e. LGPL or a license of a commercial program? |
| 15:28.49 | zecke | Cobelius: BitBake does not care |
| 15:29.17 | zecke | Cobelius: our bittest QA tool has a list of known licenses and the src_distributable class has a list of known licenses |
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| 15:31.09 | Cobelius | Ah okay, found it. But nothings happens if I enter an unknown license type |
| 15:36.53 | Cobelius | Hmn what would you think are "general meta-information about a package"? I have AUTHOR, DESCRIPTION, HOMEPAGE, MAINTAINER, SECTION, LICENSE and PR |
| 15:37.01 | Cobelius | are more field for that? |
| 15:51.26 | zecke | Cobelius: what should happen? |
| 15:51.35 | zecke | Cobelius: If you at a company and got foobar license |
| 15:51.50 | zecke | Cobelius: entering LICENSE = "foobar" is legitimate |
| 15:52.46 | Cobelius | I don't know, maybe the system asks during the build, "The package is under license xyz, please confirm that you're have a license to build and use this program"? |
| 15:54.01 | suihkulokki | notice that applications can be under multiple licenses |
| 15:57.08 | CIA-4 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4a19203a... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc): |
| 15:57.08 | CIA-4 | angstrom: switch to task-base |
| 15:57.08 | CIA-4 | * die task-bootstrap, die! |
| 15:57.11 | Cobelius | ah, okay, so it's no problem if more that one value in LICENSE? |
| 15:57.57 | bigd0g | hrm... how long does it usually take to make a jffs2 image ? |
| 15:58.02 | bigd0g | for a rootfs |
| 16:00.48 | gremlin[it] | ohhhh poor task-bootstrap ... is my workhorse bitbake target :) :) :) |
| 16:01.00 | Cobelius | Are here more variables than DEPENDS and RDEPENDS wich are express somthing about dependecies of a package? |
| 16:02.57 | koen | Cobelius: DEPENDS isn't for a package, but for a recipe |
| 16:03.21 | koen | Cobelius: for packages you can have RDEPENDS, RRECOMMENDS, RREPLACES, RCONFLICTS |
| 16:03.29 | koen | there might be more |
| 16:05.01 | Cobelius | the R stands for run? |
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| 16:09.15 | Cobelius | or, where is the diffenrece between the Variables with R and them without? |
| 16:13.31 | koen | Runtime vs buildtime |
| 16:13.40 | koen | or rather: package vs. recipe |
| 16:14.27 | Cobelius | okay, the information with R are for runtime, the one without r for build time? |
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| 16:23.23 | koen | Cobelius: right |
| 16:23.31 | koen | (there might be some exceptions) |
| 16:31.02 | Cobelius | okay thank you |
| 16:34.00 | nicolasfr | Anyone knows how I can tell bitbake to clean build/tmp/rootfs and to make a new rootfs with the modification I have done? |
| 16:34.19 | koen | it should do that automagically |
| 16:34.28 | Cobelius | Wich Methods can be overridden by the user? do_configure, do_compile, do_install, do_staging. Are there more wich makes sense? |
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| 16:42.11 | nicolasfr | koen: I have sent you a PM but didn't seem to get through. I have updated angstrom wiki with some details on how to setup OE (I had problems because of missing SDL libs for qemu). I was suggesting to host the wiki on angstrom domain, with a wiki like dokuwiki (nicer than moinmoin). See http://www.saltycom.net/angstrom/ for example |
| 16:42.29 | koen | we're not going to change wikis |
| 16:43.33 | nicolasfr | IMHO hosting the wiki on another domain can lead to confusion for users. |
| 16:43.42 | koen | right |
| 16:43.50 | koen | but full moon also confuses users |
| 16:43.55 | koen | and clouds being white |
| 16:44.32 | nicolasfr | I am just trying to help |
| 16:44.50 | koen | that's good :) |
| 16:44.55 | nicolasfr | and am willing to do something. |
| 16:45.44 | nicolasfr | I have always been frustated with openzaurus website, just hope that angstrom website wouldn't do the same mistakes again |
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| 16:51.20 | Cobelius | koen: Is it okay if I add you real name in the thank you chapter of my documentation at http://www.intion.de/OpenEmbedded.pdf? |
| 16:51.46 | koen | Cobelius: sure |
| 16:52.51 | Cobelius | okay. what is you real name? |
| 16:53.13 | koen | Koen Kooi |
| 16:53.25 | Cobelius | okay |
| 17:09.33 | bigd0g | aww... /me hunts around for Crofton |
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| 19:07.58 | ggilbert_ | kergoth`zzz: ping you lazy bastard |
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| 19:20.37 | kergoth`zzz | ggilbert_: pong |
| 19:22.07 | ggilbert_ | kergoth: you lived in Dallas before, right? |
| 19:22.21 | kergoth | yeah, was there for almost 2 years |
| 19:22.59 | ggilbert_ | How formal is it? |
| 19:40.32 | mithro | formal? |
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| 19:46.47 | ggilbert_ | mithro: I've just had a few people told me to expect eating establishments to have a more formal dress code than I'm used to. |
| 19:47.04 | mithro | o |
| 19:47.13 | ggilbert_ | I'm going for a week and am wondering if I should plan to pack a jacket :) |
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| 20:24.46 | axi | hi all, i'm developing a embedded application for uCLinux systems, i want to use some xml c++ library to parse the configuration file, but i don't want to make it very dependant, I think to use xerces/expat library, but i don't have any idea about embedded world, anyone know something about xml in embedded systems? thanks |
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