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| 06:28.32 | likewise | Good morning all |
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| 07:22.23 | simcop2387 | morning |
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| 07:23.24 | likewise | koen: goodmorgen koen |
| 07:25.14 | likewise | What is the smallest image available in OE? (preferably kernel + 1 init binary)? |
| 07:28.45 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:28.57 | koen | likewise: don't make me go zen on you :) |
| 07:29.55 | koen | RDEPENDS_woestenberg-image = "kernel-image busybox" |
| 07:30.02 | koen | or something like that |
| 07:38.50 | likewise | koen: what will happen to me when you do go zen on me? |
| 07:45.35 | koen | "the smallest images is the no image at all" |
| 07:45.42 | koen | hrw|gone: congrats on the new job |
| 07:46.49 | likewise | koen: but will it boot then? :-) |
| 07:47.33 | XorA | morning |
| 07:48.09 | XorA | koen: whats that terminal crgram you us |
| 07:48.51 | koen | likewise: "the fastest boot is no boot at all" |
| 07:48.59 | koen | XorA: ? |
| 07:49.06 | XorA | koen: for serial |
| 07:49.11 | koen | XorA: mostly cu |
| 07:49.12 | XorA | and that should have read program |
| 07:49.23 | XorA | cu thats it, too early for memory banks to work |
| 07:49.26 | koen | cu supports colours :) |
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| 07:56.31 | XorA | my terrier is circling around edin :-) |
| 07:57.12 | hrw|work | morning |
| 07:57.13 | koen | throw him a bone |
| 07:57.15 | hrw|work | XorA: minicom |
| 07:57.17 | koen | hey hrw|work |
| 07:58.09 | hrw|work | Crofton: ping |
| 07:58.42 | ade|desk | XorA: not house trained yet ? |
| 07:59.18 | hrw|work | Crofton: linux-omap1 does not build with gcc 4.1.1 |
| 07:59.19 | hrw|work | | arch/arm/plat-omap/built-in.o: In function `omap_mcbsp_free': |
| 07:59.19 | hrw|work | | mcbsp.c:(.text+0x3fa4): undefined reference to `omap_dsp_release_mem' |
| 07:59.19 | hrw|work | | arch/arm/plat-omap/built-in.o: In function `omap_mcbsp_request': |
| 07:59.19 | hrw|work | | mcbsp.c:(.text+0x406c): undefined reference to `omap_dsp_request_mem' |
| 08:03.02 | XorA | x11 building requires host x11 headers :-( |
| 08:03.42 | ade|desk | XorA: it does ? |
| 08:04.26 | ade|desk | i don't have the headers on my box and as far as i can tell xlib builds fine |
| 08:06.51 | XorA | diet-x11 makekeys needs them |
| 08:07.03 | XorA | unless there is a libx11-native missing |
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| 08:15.04 | RP | morning all |
| 08:15.17 | XorA | hey RP |
| 08:15.59 | ade|desk | XorA: i can't see where a native xlib would be called in from |
| 08:16.03 | ade|desk | morning |
| 08:16.57 | koen | hey RP |
| 08:18.08 | XorA | ade|desk: the do_compile |
| 08:21.06 | koen | RP: any idea on howto cleanly solve http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1440 ? |
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| 08:23.22 | RP | koen: Add it to multimachine.bbclass I guess |
| 08:23.38 | koen | but where? |
| 08:24.25 | koen | between ${MULTIMACH_ARCH} and ${TARGET_OS} ? |
| 08:24.28 | RP | koen: s/${TARGET_OS}/${TARGET_VENDOR}-${TARGET_OS}/ |
| 08:25.47 | XorA | ~lart wolfson proxy |
| 08:26.56 | koen | http://oe.pastebin.com/795265 |
| 08:27.43 | RP | pastebin is on the go slow :-( |
| 08:28.45 | ade|desk | kergoth: !!! what time is it over your way? |
| 08:28.53 | kergoth | only 1:30am |
| 08:28.57 | RP | koen: right, that should work |
| 08:29.10 | RP | koen: It will force a total rebuild of course... |
| 08:29.17 | ade|desk | kergoth: you moved lately then ? |
| 08:29.37 | koen | NOTE: Unpacking /home/koen/OE/downloads/flex-2.5.31.tar.bz2 to /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/i686--linux/flex-native-2.5.31-r2/ |
| 08:29.38 | kergoth | not in the past 8-10 months |
| 08:29.52 | koen | RP: and the '--' is target vender isn't set |
| 08:29.59 | koen | RP: but I can live with that :) |
| 08:30.17 | RP | koen: If we want to maintain backwards compatibility, drop the '-' |
| 08:30.30 | kergoth | koen: heh, theres a reason that TARGET_VENDOR includes the - |
| 08:30.36 | RP | but with will result in i686-pokylinux |
| 08:31.21 | RP | ah, if TARGET_VENDOR includes a -, that change is wrong :) |
| 08:31.44 | koen | +STAMP = "${TMPDIR}/stamps/${MULTIMACH_ARCH}${TARGET_VEDNOR}-${TARGET_OS}/${PF}" |
| 08:31.45 | kergoth | thats the way its usually done, since the default TARGET_SYS doesnt seperate the vendor with a -, to avoid the -- issue koen just hit |
| 08:32.02 | kergoth | heh |
| 08:32.43 | koen | what about doing TARGET_VENDOR = "-oe" in bitbake.conf? |
| 08:32.46 | RP | kergoth: Is the dash a prefix or postfix? |
| 08:33.09 | koen | RP: TARGET_VENDOR = "-angstrom", so prefix |
| 08:33.12 | RP | koen: It would just break everything in sight. Maybe sometime when we're breaking things... |
| 08:33.35 | RP | koen: ok, I think you know what to do then :) |
| 08:33.40 | kergoth | RP: i never remember if its pre or post, i always, always have to check bitbake.conf when i'm gonna define a vendor. kinda annoying, but *shrug* |
| 08:36.08 | koen | hrw|work: ewi will get moved tomorrow morning and should be up again a few hours later |
| 08:38.23 | XorA | koen: put it on wireless :-) |
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| 08:40.00 | koen | :) |
| 08:40.44 | hrw|work | koen: ok |
| 08:41.00 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf4888077... 10/ (1 classes/multimachine.bbclass): multimachine.bbclass: include TARGET_VENDOR, closes #1440 |
| 08:46.14 | hrw|work | being root on remote machine is weird.. |
| 08:46.24 | koen | 'halt' |
| 08:46.34 | koen | followed by cries of agony |
| 08:48.06 | XorA | koen: so is EWI dieing for good sometime? |
| 08:48.38 | koen | XorA: after it's being moved bureacracy sets in |
| 08:48.51 | koen | so it'll be there for a few weeks more |
| 08:50.18 | XorA | koen: heh heh |
| 08:50.28 | XorA | koen: so have we upset someone? |
| 08:50.46 | koen | no, the uni ended their ipaq projects afaics |
| 08:51.50 | XorA | ~lart uni |
| 08:52.22 | koen | XorA: I still have a pile of hardware on my desk the seem to have forgotten about |
| 08:52.36 | XorA | koen: quick put that in a drawer |
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| 09:13.30 | hrw|work | ~seen crofton |
| 09:13.33 | ibot | crofton is currently on #casualti (8h 17m 43s) #ol (8h 17m 43s) #oe (8h 17m 43s) #elinux (8h 17m 43s), last said: 'celf must have done their own machine file ...'. |
| 09:14.14 | koen | hrw|work: are you switching celf to generic or a custom distro? |
| 09:14.20 | hrw|work | custom |
| 09:15.12 | koen | and is it going to live in .dev or into /dev/celf/null again? |
| 09:15.18 | hrw|work | .dev |
| 09:15.59 | hrw|work | In general, we |
| 09:15.59 | hrw|work | want code and meta-data results pushed upstream into OE directly. |
| 09:15.59 | hrw|work | Our automated build system downloads OE every day, so anything that |
| 09:16.00 | hrw|work | makes its way into OE should be available to us the next day. |
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| 09:16.51 | koen | 'downloads OE every day' |
| 09:16.59 | zecke | hey |
| 09:17.07 | hrw|work | koen: fasist firewalls rox |
| 09:17.14 | koen | that spell 'huge waste of bandwidth' to me |
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| 09:19.52 | likewise | hrw|work: you working with CELF / Tim Bird?? |
| 09:20.25 | hrw|work | likewise: will |
| 09:21.03 | likewise | hrw|work: Ah ok, good! |
| 09:21.40 | zecke | hey |
| 09:21.47 | hrw|work | hi zecke |
| 09:21.56 | zecke | hrw|work: that is really nice to hear! |
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| 09:22.23 | koen | florian_kc: moin |
| 09:22.40 | koen | florian_kc: nils is away this week, right? |
| 09:22.41 | florian_kc | hi |
| 09:22.51 | florian_kc | koen: yes, why? |
| 09:23.52 | koen | florian_kc: So I can wait with asking difficult questions :) |
| 09:24.48 | florian_kc | koen: :-) |
| 09:25.36 | florian_kc | koen: he has network access... so maybe he has even more free time this week :-) |
| 09:27.02 | koen | zecke: tinderbox will be down tomorrow morning |
| 09:27.48 | koen | florian_kc: enough free time to fill in the kbdd svn repo? |
| 09:28.15 | florian_kc | koen: maybe |
| 09:28.25 | florian_kc | just a guess |
| 09:29.21 | toi | koen: I'm afraid you made a typing mistake in the last patch: TARGET_VEDNOR? |
| 09:30.14 | koen | ah, right |
| 09:30.24 | koen | I only checked if the workdir looked sane |
| 09:30.50 | toi | np, thanks for fixing. |
| 09:31.15 | theuns | Right. It's alive! When building glibc-intermediate, does the error "undefined reference to `__atfct_seterrno'" ring any bells? |
| 09:31.42 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4f6bdeca... 10/ (1 classes/multimachine.bbclass): multimachine.bbclass: fix typo spotted by mr Leemans |
| 09:31.54 | florian_kc | "guinness.conf" sounds good :-) |
| 09:32.45 | koen | florian_kc: it's this board: http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk7.html |
| 09:32.59 | zecke | koen: could you delete my home dir please? |
| 09:33.13 | zecke | koen: and make a backup of the tinderbox |
| 09:33.14 | toi | mr... makes me think about an old pub about fast food ;-) |
| 09:33.14 | koen | zecke: sure, right now? |
| 09:33.57 | zecke | koen: home dir? yes |
| 09:34.04 | koen | zecke: does tinderbox use postgres? |
| 09:34.14 | zecke | koen: yes it did |
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| 09:37.34 | koen | zecke: /data/tinderbox1 has been backed up to openemebedded.org:~/backup/tinderbox/ |
| 09:46.47 | hrw|work | time to backup changes to repo |
| 09:48.39 | koen | mtn commit -b org.oe.hrw-unsorted-backup ? |
| 09:49.45 | hrw|work | rather sort changes in .oz354x and push |
| 09:50.20 | ade|desk | yay, everyone like a pay rise :) |
| 09:51.52 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r523d4d2f... 10/ (1 conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.2.conf): oz 3.5.4.2: bump SRCDATE for zaurusd to get poodle support |
| 09:51.58 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r432081ea... 10/ (1 packages/zaurusd/zaurusd_svn.bb): zaurusd: OZ 3.5.4.2 use newer snapshot with poodle support |
| 09:52.04 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3e44aeab... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/poodle-2.6.conf): poodle-2.6: use zaurusd instead of alsa-settings |
| 09:52.10 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rbdbd69d2... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb): linux-oz 2.6.16: remove stuff for tosa/poodle/collie |
| 09:52.49 | koen | hrw|work: does celf really have a fascist firewall, or where they too lazy to learn mtn? |
| 09:53.22 | hrw|work | koen: will check when start work for them |
| 09:56.00 | koen | downloading oe.mtn.bz2 daily = 32GB of traffic per year |
| 09:57.54 | NAbyss | koen: what about rsync? |
| 09:59.14 | koen | NAbyss: if they can open up an rsync port, they can open up the mtn port |
| 09:59.34 | NAbyss | koen: True, true |
| 10:07.15 | mickeyl | good morning |
| 10:07.39 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 10:08.24 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 10:08.31 | koen | mickeyl: is that the tablet one? |
| 10:08.31 | theuns | Woot. Never mind - hacked around it. openat.c seems to be getting patched badly somewhere along the line. |
| 10:08.40 | koen | or the one that explodes? |
| 10:08.46 | mickeyl | koen: no, the x60 is not available as tablet (yet). |
| 10:08.55 | mickeyl | koen: the x60s is the one with the core duo LV |
| 10:09.01 | mickeyl | 1.2 Kg |
| 10:09.07 | mickeyl | not powerful, but very light |
| 10:09.10 | mickeyl | which is what I like |
| 10:09.15 | koen | a powerfull explosive :) |
| 10:09.33 | mickeyl | heh |
| 10:09.35 | mickeyl | i hope not |
| 10:09.50 | koen | mickeyl: I'm building angstrom for my workstation right now :)_ |
| 10:09.54 | koen | s/-// |
| 10:10.03 | mickeyl | koen: excellent. I'm not very far from using OE on my main machine as well ;) |
| 10:10.19 | mickeyl | it probably doesn't suck less, but at least I can fix it ;) |
| 10:10.50 | koen | I'm anxious to try out the .dev/apt stuff the o-hand are working on |
| 10:10.57 | koen | s/dev/deb/ |
| 10:10.59 | hrw|work | ~summon crofton |
| 10:11.01 | ibot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing crofton's coordinates |
| 10:11.27 | mickeyl | heh, that's a cool summon |
| 10:11.31 | mickeyl | ~summon mickeyl |
| 10:11.33 | ibot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing mickeyl's coordinates |
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| 10:12.33 | koen | btw, we really need a clear policy on which kernel modules to enable in OE |
| 10:12.39 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 10:12.50 | mickeyl | could you add that to oedem session |
| 10:12.57 | mickeyl | perhaps the 2nd one |
| 10:12.58 | mickeyl | ? |
| 10:14.51 | koen | mickeyl: done |
| 10:14.54 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 10:15.08 | hrw|work | koen: why policy? its matter of machine maintainers rather |
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| 10:15.52 | koen | hrw|work: we have a lot of packages that need a kernel module to function |
| 10:16.20 | koen | like all the routing/firewall/dns packages |
| 10:17.06 | mickeyl | i think it's a good think to discuss it -- even if the result is that we don't need a policy |
| 10:17.08 | florian_kc | hi mickeyl |
| 10:17.11 | mickeyl | s/think/thing/ |
| 10:17.14 | mickeyl | morning florian |
| 10:17.24 | mickeyl | how's the kiddy? |
| 10:18.36 | hrw|work | Crofton: http://pastebin.ca/183871 is needed to build linux-omap 2.6.x-git for omap5912osk machine |
| 10:18.40 | florian_kc | hungry... :-) |
| 10:18.47 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 10:18.54 | mickeyl | nothing unusual ;) |
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| 10:19.21 | lrg | morning all |
| 10:19.43 | mickeyl | uargh |
| 10:19.47 | mickeyl | how i hate preinstalled windows |
| 10:19.55 | mickeyl | like... 1 million taskbar symbols |
| 10:19.59 | mickeyl | 1 million services in background |
| 10:19.59 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 10:20.01 | mickeyl | ~lart lenovo |
| 10:20.06 | mickeyl | morning lrg |
| 10:20.12 | hrw|work | hi Liam |
| 10:20.18 | koen | hey lrg |
| 10:20.32 | lrg | mickeyl: and a million ISP shortcuts |
| 10:20.54 | florian_kc | mickeyl: he destroyed his first bowl yesterday :-) |
| 10:20.56 | hrw|work | ~curse git fetcher badly |
| 10:21.02 | ibot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, git fetcher badly ! |
| 10:21.02 | florian_kc | hi lrg |
| 10:23.47 | hrw|work | git fetcher is CRAP |
| 10:24.12 | hrw|work | fetch, pack, pack, archive. next time do fetch, archive |
| 10:24.31 | hrw|work | Already up-to-date. |
| 10:24.31 | hrw|work | No changes. |
| 10:24.31 | hrw|work | NOTE: Creating tarball of git repository |
| 10:25.06 | XorA | ${TARGET_VEDNOR} who needs a spelling checker :-) |
| 10:25.28 | hrw|work | XorA: you need to use mtn pull/merge/update before reporting bugs |
| 10:25.35 | hrw|work | ;D |
| 10:26.22 | hrw|work | I want sources.oe.org service... |
| 10:33.07 | florian_kc | hrw|work: that's a good idea... |
| 10:34.57 | hrw|work | 3rd rebuild of kernel.. |
| 10:35.11 | hrw|work | ARGH... git fetcher again.. |
| 10:37.38 | hrw|work | building git kernels can be split into two equal time parts: 1. fetching nothing 2. rest |
| 10:38.31 | koen | XorA: don't you know that 95% of all typos in OE were pushed by me? |
| 10:41.07 | XorA | koen: heh heh |
| 10:41.41 | koen | djeez |
| 10:41.57 | koen | I'm getting so pissed off at people that say "OMG BUGZ!!!! YOU SUCKZORS" |
| 10:42.03 | CIA-9 | 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r39125d69... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ftpd-topfield: Update to latest version. |
| 10:42.21 | koen | but the same people don;t wan't to say what to bugs are nor report them in bugzilla |
| 10:44.01 | koen | RP: how hard would it be to teach OE/bitbake 'bitbake nano:poodle nano:x86 iptables:wrt54g' ? |
| 10:45.11 | XorA | koen: whining is always the easy choice |
| 10:47.39 | hrw|work | fsck.. rm_work strikes again |
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| 10:48.03 | do13_ | morning all |
| 10:48.11 | lrg | hey Dirk |
| 10:48.17 | do13_ | hi Liam |
| 10:48.31 | hrw|work | NOTE: package linux-omap1-2.6.x+git: completed |
| 10:48.32 | hrw|work | uf |
| 10:48.54 | hrw|work | Crofton: where are you.... |
| 10:48.56 | hrw|work | hi Dirk |
| 10:49.01 | do13_ | hey Marcin |
| 10:49.10 | koen | hrw|work: maybe crofton is sleeping? |
| 10:49.11 | koen | hey Dirk |
| 10:49.47 | do13_ | hi Koen |
| 10:49.50 | hrw|work | koen: I hope that he sleep good |
| 10:50.21 | hrw|work | oz-unstable for omap5912osk progressing |
| 10:50.33 | hrw|work | 3h for getting kernel built is a bit too much |
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| 11:15.49 | RP | koen: Its funny you should ask that. I've been considering quilt;mach=native ... |
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| 11:32.35 | Crofton | he was sleeeping |
| 11:34.30 | Crofton | hrw|work, the problem with the git kernel is the underlying source always changes :) |
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| 11:34.58 | Crofton | I need to check that the kernel config is OK, since recently some dsp gw changes went in |
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| 11:40.15 | hrw|work | morning Crofton |
| 11:40.50 | hrw|work | Crofton: can you tag 2.6.18 kernel in it? |
| 11:41.57 | Crofton | at some point, I want to add a bb file that builds from a tag |
| 11:42.05 | Crofton | to prevent this kind of stuff |
| 11:42.08 | hrw|work | yep |
| 11:42.14 | Crofton | I forget why I didn't do this |
| 11:42.16 | Crofton | :) |
| 11:42.23 | hrw|work | Crofton: I also had problems with deploying |
| 11:42.33 | Crofton | I suspect I see changes I want in the OSK soon flowing into git |
| 11:42.44 | Crofton | what kind of problem? |
| 11:42.53 | Crofton | u-boot is built against a tag |
| 11:43.02 | Crofton | btw, I am glad for help :) |
| 11:43.20 | Crofton | there seems to be increasing interest in the OSK |
| 11:44.15 | hrw|work | Crofton: vmlinux was not in arch/arm/boot/compressed/ |
| 11:44.57 | koen | duh |
| 11:45.03 | koen | vmlinux is uncompressed |
| 11:45.11 | koen | vmlinuz would be :) |
| 11:49.29 | hrw|work | Crofton: did you looked at MACHINE_FEATURES stuff? |
| 11:49.58 | hrw|work | Crofton: MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 pcmcia usbhost" would be ok for omap5912osk? |
| 11:50.41 | Crofton | not yet |
| 11:51.14 | Crofton | if you understand them, please update |
| 11:51.29 | Crofton | I can't work seriously on it until next week |
| 11:51.51 | Crofton | I still have a proposal and a paper to finsh |
| 11:52.24 | hrw|work | Crofton: ok |
| 11:52.28 | Crofton | hrw|work, the deploy has worked recently |
| 11:52.34 | Crofton | maybe the kernel build failed |
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| 11:52.47 | hrw|work | Crofton: I will rebuild to check |
| 11:52.50 | hrw|work | hi Mike |
| 11:52.57 | Crofton | thanks |
| 11:53.13 | Crofton | I will keep my data updated |
| 11:53.24 | Crofton | does busybox still eat your machine when it builds? |
| 11:53.33 | hrw|work | no |
| 11:53.45 | Crofton | I want to do a rebuild, but the machine is also our svn server |
| 11:53.56 | Crofton | and it gets really slow when bb rebuilds .... |
| 11:54.53 | hrw|work | I build now on my home machine (remotely) |
| 11:55.14 | Crofton | I need to install on my new home machine when I have time |
| 12:04.19 | hrw|work | | install: cannot stat `arch/arm/boot/vmlinux': No such file or directory |
| 12:04.19 | hrw|work | NOTE: Task failed: /home/hrw/devel/build/dev/tmp/work/omap5912osk-linux/linux-omap1-2.6.x+git-r0/temp/log.do_install.14922 |
| 12:04.31 | Crofton | bother |
| 12:07.57 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:08.29 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 12:08.35 | Crofton | I have vmlinux in my boot |
| 12:09.04 | hrw|work | 14:09 hrw@home:dev$ find tmp/work/omap5912osk-linux/linux-omap1-2.6.x+git-r0/git/ -name vmlinux |
| 12:09.07 | hrw|work | tmp/work/omap5912osk-linux/linux-omap1-2.6.x+git-r0/git/vmlinux |
| 12:09.31 | Crofton | have you looked at OSK newbies guide? |
| 12:11.09 | hrw|work | not yet |
| 12:11.26 | Crofton | the path is from that, verbatim ... |
| 12:11.42 | hrw|work | http://www.capgo.com/Resources/SoftwareDev/osk-newbie-guide.pdf one? |
| 12:12.03 | Crofton | pretty sure |
| 12:12.11 | Crofton | first hit on google is the pdf |
| 12:12.31 | Crofton | I am goign to clean and rebuild kernel here |
| 12:13.40 | hrw|work | ok |
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| 12:26.05 | Crofton | hrw, mine fails to compile |
| 12:26.22 | hrw|work | Crofton: lack of compilefix.patch? |
| 12:26.23 | Crofton | need to look at that the .config |
| 12:26.34 | Crofton | probably |
| 12:26.35 | hrw|work | Crofton: enable CONFIG_OMAP_DSP |
| 12:26.43 | Crofton | are you on the linux-omap list? |
| 12:26.46 | Crofton | yeah |
| 12:26.46 | hrw|work | Crofton: or use my hack |
| 12:26.47 | hrw|work | no |
| 12:26.57 | Crofton | It needs CONFIG_OMAP_DSP |
| 12:27.07 | Crofton | we want the DSP :) |
| 12:27.15 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r357d97e8... 10/ (1 conf/machine/guinness.conf): guinness: add MACHINE_FEATURES |
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| 12:27.32 | Crofton | I can do this later today |
| 12:27.37 | Crofton | when I get in to school |
| 12:27.55 | hrw|work | Crofton: do you remember url to linux-omap ML? |
| 12:27.59 | Crofton | they split up the DSP gw some between omap1 and 2 stuff very recently |
| 12:28.14 | hrw|work | Crofton: http://linux.omap.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-omap-open-source one? |
| 12:28.22 | Crofton | http://linux.omap.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-omap-open-source |
| 12:28.24 | Crofton | yeah |
| 12:28.36 | Crofton | It is a bug that it does not compiel withthe gw disabled |
| 12:28.44 | Crofton | and should be submitted |
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| 12:31.56 | koen | oooh |
| 12:32.01 | koen | dspfs looks nice |
| 12:32.14 | Crofton | fir the bridge? |
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| 12:32.46 | hrw|work | Crofton: which distro you use for omap work? |
| 12:32.55 | Crofton | openomap |
| 12:33.05 | Crofton | but it may make sense t use a more standard one |
| 12:33.14 | hrw|work | Crofton: you maintain it? |
| 12:33.18 | Crofton | sort off |
| 12:33.28 | hrw|work | ok |
| 12:33.32 | Crofton | I use it to set tool chan version mainly |
| 12:33.57 | Crofton | by having a custom distro, it minimizes external change |
| 12:34.13 | hrw|work | sure |
| 12:34.17 | Crofton | but on the other hand, I am not opposed to using something like angstrom, if it works ok |
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| 12:35.33 | hrw|work | Crofton: you use nfs, pcmcia, usbhost on devboard? |
| 12:36.45 | Crofton | yes |
| 12:36.57 | Crofton | pcmcia for microdrive |
| 12:37.00 | Crofton | usb for USRP |
| 12:37.06 | hrw|work | k |
| 12:37.14 | Crofton | root over nfs is very handy |
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| 12:53.04 | RP | opie-mediaplayer1: "cannot find -lqtaux2" - does anyone know what causes that offhand? |
| 12:53.40 | XorA | RP: what unit is ramdisk_size in? |
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| 12:54.20 | RP | XorA: no idea... |
| 12:54.30 | RP | XorA: on the kernel commandline? |
| 12:54.51 | XorA | RP: yeah, just if you knew off top of head |
| 12:55.17 | RP | XorA: If I had to guess I'd say it would depend on the postfix M for MB... |
| 12:56.23 | Crofton | hrw|work, |
| 12:56.33 | Crofton | Am goin to start my project in OMAP ..."Porting linux on OMAP" |
| 12:56.34 | Crofton | plz any one help me how to start with....what are the things required... |
| 12:56.34 | Crofton | like bootloaders,toolchain and etc.... |
| 12:56.46 | Crofton | from l-o-o-s list |
| 12:57.23 | koen | l-o-o-s-er list? |
| 12:57.28 | koen | (too easy ;)) |
| 12:57.33 | Crofton | heh |
| 12:57.38 | Crofton | too long a name .... |
| 12:58.13 | Crofton | all the cool people are on the davinci list anyway :) |
| 13:00.21 | EvilDevil | monotone has been updated to 0.30, which is using a new database and workspace format ( http://www.venge.net/monotone/UPGRADE ). Are there plans to migrate to 0.30? |
| 13:00.42 | Crofton | netsync is compatible |
| 13:00.57 | Crofton | you can upgrade, even if the main servers do not |
| 13:01.19 | EvilDevil | Crofton, nice, thanks for the info :) |
| 13:01.27 | Crofton | I asked yesterday |
| 13:01.33 | Crofton | I haven'tdone the upgrade though |
| 13:02.49 | EvilDevil | i'm testing it right now and it seems to work (i haven't changed the db-forma locally though) |
| 13:02.57 | psokolovsky | main pain with 0.30 upgrade is roster regeneration (not even migration!) - took >3h for me ;-) |
| 13:03.58 | EvilDevil | well, i think i should stick with 0.29 db and use mtn-0.30 (as this combo seems to work) |
| 13:04.06 | XorA | koen: pointed out there are snapshots of 0.30 databases on oe.rg |
| 13:04.10 | XorA | oe.org |
| 13:04.34 | XorA | a day too late for me unfortuneately, I think he owes me a NBP :-) |
| 13:04.44 | psokolovsky | EvilDevil, you need to migrate your db file. just to it at night ;-) |
| 13:05.08 | koen | the filenames in http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ are fairly self explanatory |
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| 13:06.07 | gumz | hi |
| 13:06.39 | gumz | i have a prb compiling a simple nano ... anyone can help me ? i have followed step by step the wiki |
| 13:06.45 | EvilDevil | koen, can i use the snapshot for nslu2-linux.mtn too? |
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| 13:07.36 | koen | EvilDevil: it contains org.oe.dev, not the bitbake mirrors |
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| 13:13.08 | hrw|work | re |
| 13:13.11 | hrw|work | Crofton: ? |
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| 13:17.00 | hrw|work | RP: MACHINE_FEATURES = "keyboard" |
| 13:19.03 | koen | hrw|work: and 'touchscreen' as well? |
| 13:19.23 | Gerrath | kergoth, thanks for the help with glibc las night.. you were correct, somehow the uclibc got build over the libc. I rebuilt it and everything works now. I'm not sure it happened as I know I never manualy built it.. |
| 13:19.31 | XorA | MACHINE_FEATURES = "puntable" |
| 13:20.18 | hrw|work | koen: good point |
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| 13:23.15 | hrw|work | devboards not always has a keyboard so keymaps+console-tools are not necessary |
| 13:24.32 | koen | man, 'cross' compiling for i686 takes a while |
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| 13:27.54 | RP | hrw|work: I guess it we should indicate such features... |
| 13:28.20 | koen | I bumped a thread about task-base on the mailinglist today |
| 13:45.28 | hrw|work | how do you think - ipkg shoudl be in task-base or just added into rootfs? |
| 13:45.50 | hrw|work | if rootfs is built with ipkg packages then add ipkg or not (in other words) |
| 13:48.30 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5a911227... 10/ (1 classes/multimachine.bbclass): multimachine: remove spurious hyphen in staging-kernel-dir |
| 13:48.46 | hrw|work | pushing some task-base changes... |
| 13:49.12 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r14f3e63a... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): zaurus machines: renamed zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf into zaurus-2.6.conf as it is used in all 2.6 powered models |
| 13:49.18 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r25bb53fb... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/zaurus-2.6.conf): zaurus-2.6.conf: added keyboard, touchscreen into features, added tosa info |
| 13:53.11 | koen | any volunteers for documenting task-base in the user-manual? |
| 13:54.45 | hrw|work | koen: before or after oedem? |
| 13:55.08 | koen | right now would be a good start :) |
| 13:55.29 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * reef15408... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: added support for keyboard feature |
| 13:55.39 | blaster8 | Over 4k packages, btw |
| 13:55.42 | Genesis | i've a problem compiling gnash with libz |
| 13:55.45 | Genesis | http://dark-code.bulix.org/vyu0ie-18454 |
| 13:56.02 | hrw|work | blaster8: I had >4k weeks ago. |
| 13:56.15 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 13:56.21 | Genesis | if someone is interessting by gnash in OE , i need a bit help |
| 13:56.24 | blaster8 | ok, I'm pulling org.openembedded.dev only |
| 13:56.31 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf61787de... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: bumped PR |
| 13:58.44 | hrw|work | I will bump PR only once per push - more changesets will follow |
| 13:58.55 | koen | Genesis: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RS8mtY62.html |
| 13:59.35 | Genesis | i made a bb file me too |
| 13:59.56 | koen | that bb file is a few weeks old |
| 14:00.05 | koen | gnash insists on compiling opengl support |
| 14:00.09 | Genesis | i'ven't it in my OE Tree |
| 14:00.25 | Genesis | koen, : you dont need it if you use SDL , isn't it ? |
| 14:00.39 | Genesis | i show my bb |
| 14:00.43 | koen | right, you don't need it, but there's no way to turn it off |
| 14:01.09 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rff8f16a8... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): h2200, h5xxx, ipaq-pxa270, netbook-pro: add MACHINE_FEATURES |
| 14:01.34 | Genesis | http://rafb.net/paste/results/e8QEJD67.html |
| 14:01.43 | Genesis | --enable-gui=sdl |
| 14:02.00 | Genesis | did you tried with that ? |
| 14:02.19 | koen | no, I think the release didn't have that |
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| 14:02.43 | Genesis | ho |
| 14:02.47 | Genesis | try |
| 14:02.53 | florian_kc | koen: oh, good work |
| 14:02.58 | Genesis | if you've some time of course :) |
| 14:03.58 | Genesis | i think my actual pb is a OE pb dealing with libz |
| 14:04.05 | Genesis | more than a gnash one |
| 14:05.00 | Genesis | ( my bb file is for cvs since gnash doesnt release often ) |
| 14:05.38 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2061d23a... 10/ (1 conf/machine/a780.conf): a780: add MACHINE_FEATURES, the 'keyboard' one might be a bit misplaced |
| 14:06.46 | hrw|work | koen: a780 use keymaps package? |
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| 14:07.05 | koen | it could do that for the keypad |
| 14:07.19 | hrw|work | RP: something for you |
| 14:08.13 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1595838e... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: portmap is needed for NFS not for core system |
| 14:08.18 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r28236de9... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: hostap-cs only if DISTRO has wifi in features |
| 14:08.24 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rab63b160... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: if there are usbhost and bluetooth supported then add module for USB BT |
| 14:08.29 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0320e8a3... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: if there are usbhost and irda supported then add module for USB Irda |
| 14:08.35 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r330197c2... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: do not add USB BT/Irda into usbhost list - they are part of bt/irda already |
| 14:08.40 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1e14a41a... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: added portmap into task-distro-nfs, added cifs into smbfs |
| 14:08.53 | Genesis | koen, : sdl backend from cvs should work |
| 14:09.24 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd5610a07... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: bump PR |
| 14:14.44 | koen | hrw|work: you forgot one :) |
| 14:14.52 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4b32a45f... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: include tslib for 'touchscreen' |
| 14:20.08 | hrw|work | koen: tslib-conf OK. but not tslib |
| 14:20.28 | koen | because tslib-conf pull in tslib? |
| 14:20.51 | hrw|work | koen: if machine has touchscreen then it need config for tslib. it does not need tslib because it will get by dependencies of libs/apps which use tslib |
| 14:21.22 | hrw|work | opie-image will get tslib because qte use tslib. gpe-image will get tslib because xtscal use it etc.. |
| 14:23.10 | RP | tslib should probably RECOMMEND tslib-config |
| 14:23.20 | RP | hrw|work: Looks good at a quick glance :) |
| 14:23.44 | hrw|work | RP: it should |
| 14:24.33 | hrw|work | RP: I will left it for you then ;D |
| 14:25.54 | RP | hrw|work: tslib RDEPENDS on tslib-conf so we're safe |
| 14:25.55 | Genesis | about tslib, i've a little bug with it , when i lauch xtscal first , calibration failed, if i lauch after lauching my WM ( matchbox ) , that work fine |
| 14:26.07 | Genesis | if someone have an idea :) |
| 14:26.22 | hrw|work | koen: can you revert last changeset then? :D |
| 14:26.54 | koen | hrw|work: what is you don't build gpe or opie, but want to have tslib from some reason? |
| 14:27.13 | koen | RP: why are fuser and setserial in 'core'? |
| 14:27.15 | RP | koen: Its a lib - it would get picked up by shlibs for anything that needs it |
| 14:27.24 | hrw|work | koen: then I will install something for usage of TS |
| 14:27.33 | hrw|work | koen: for example tslib-tests |
| 14:28.03 | RP | koen: I'm not sure, they were just there traditionally and I didn't want to break compatibility at the time |
| 14:28.48 | hrw|work | koen: setserial can move to task-serial |
| 14:29.00 | koen | and busybox has fuser iirc |
| 14:29.03 | hrw|work | koen: but task-pcmcia, task-usbhost will get them |
| 14:29.09 | hrw|work | koen: >1.01 only |
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| 14:42.43 | gumz | is current cvs broken???? |
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| 14:43.47 | gumz | i always got : |
| 14:43.48 | gumz | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency autoconf-native |
| 14:43.48 | gumz | ERROR: dependency autoconf-native (for nano) not satisfied |
| 14:43.48 | gumz | NOTE: no buildable providers for nano |
| 14:47.07 | psokolovsky | gumz, you got different bitbake paths wrong. Read GettingStarted wiki. |
| 14:47.28 | psokolovsky | (or at least my telepathy engines suggests that's the cause) |
| 14:48.41 | gumz | ok i re-check |
| 14:49.40 | Gerrath | is there anything special I have to do to build OE using nptl as the thread libs? |
| 14:49.43 | koen | cvs? |
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| 14:50.19 | Gerrath | I've been using the generic distro and it does not seem to have built the libs with nptl. |
| 14:50.26 | koen | Gerrath: GLIBC_ADDONS = "nptl" |
| 14:50.51 | Gerrath | koen, in local.conf? |
| 14:51.05 | Gerrath | or in glibc.bb |
| 14:51.13 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r56ae59ea... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): disapproval of revision '4b32a45f45bd0328a8607e52c07b92d6efd62e6a' |
| 14:51.39 | koen | anywhere |
| 14:53.54 | Gerrath | koen, ok I guess it is already included in the glibc_2.4, I'm using glibc_2.3.90 for some reason.. I'll just rebuild with 2.4 and be up to date :-) |
| 14:55.05 | JustinP | gumz: cvs? we don't use cvs |
| 14:55.42 | gumz | ok, BTW, always same prb |
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| 14:58.12 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.13 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r71292004... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: added modules needed for WEP/WPA support into wifi section |
| 15:14.07 | Gerrath | I have ajusted the configurations of several OE packages to meet my specific needs, what is the best way to keep track of these changes and also apply them to a fresh OE download? Should I generate a monotone patch or just use normal diff or is there a better way? |
| 15:14.44 | hrw|work | Gerrath: generate patches and submit them to us |
| 15:14.49 | koen | 'mtn diff . > ../foo.diff ; patch < ../foo.diff' ? |
| 15:14.50 | hrw|work | then pester us to get them included |
| 15:15.05 | hrw|work | koen: quilt will be better |
| 15:16.15 | T0mW | hrw|work: good morning |
| 15:16.19 | Gerrath | hrw|work, no I don't think these patches should be submitted as they pertain to things like specific PHP mods to be compiled and not to be compiled. They are very "individual requirement" dependent. |
| 15:17.14 | Gerrath | hrw|work, although there is one (which is a real bug) I submitted as a bug report and I'm not sure what is the best way to fix it. I would love some input: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1418 |
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| 15:17.57 | Gerrath | koen, thanks. |
| 15:17.57 | JustinP | Gerrath: if you want to keep track of local changes commit them to your mtn db |
| 15:18.25 | JustinP | Gerrath: I suggest using your own branch and propagatig from org.openembedded.X to your branch when you pull |
| 15:18.27 | Gerrath | JustinP, ok, thats what I thought, I just wanted to make sure it was the best method. |
| 15:18.29 | hrw|work | Gerrath: no idea |
| 15:22.09 | T0mW | koen: you mentioned in the wiki edit that the task-bootstrap was soon to be changed in favor of task-base? IOW, that the strategy of the task-<blah>.bb vs. <blah>-image.bb is about to go an rework? |
| 15:22.36 | Gerrath | how is the rootfs generated in OE? Is there a skeleton directory somewere that is copied into tmp/rootfs during build and then the apps are installed into it? |
| 15:22.53 | T0mW | Gerrath: no, and yes |
| 15:23.00 | CosmicPenguin | Gerrath: atually, the entire rootfs is created by packges |
| 15:23.15 | CosmicPenguin | s/packges/packages/ |
| 15:23.28 | Gerrath | CosmicPenguin, ok, that makes sense.. |
| 15:23.33 | hrw|work | T0mW: machine config need to have MACHINE_TASK_PROVIDER = "task-base" and then you build any image |
| 15:23.53 | T0mW | Gerrath: the strategy is that the task-bootstrap.bb for example will collect info on what ipk's should be installed, then the image-bootsrap.bb actually installs them into the rootfs image tree. |
| 15:23.59 | hrw|work | T0mW: task-base will get built instead of task-bootstrap. your machine and distro has to be ready for it |
| 15:24.25 | hrw|work | T0mW: machine need to have MACHINE_FEATURES listed and distro has DISTRO_FEATURES |
| 15:24.36 | CosmicPenguin | T0mW!!! |
| 15:24.56 | CosmicPenguin | You are the last guy I expected to find in here |
| 15:24.56 | T0mW | hrw|work: what I'm seeing is that, for example, task-bootstrap.bb is too specific. for example, someone put hotplug, portmap and dropbear into that task. I don't want those packages! |
| 15:25.00 | CosmicPenguin | well - second to last |
| 15:25.00 | hrw|work | T0mW: when I will find time then I will add it into user-manual |
| 15:25.02 | CosmicPenguin | but still, thats pretty good |
| 15:25.15 | Gerrath | I use tmpfs for my var directory so there is minimum flash writing.. I wanted to blitz all files/directories in the var directory so there would be no extra space wasted on my final rootfs.jffs2 image and was trying to figure out the cleanest way to do that.. |
| 15:25.18 | T0mW | ~lart Jordon for making assumptions |
| 15:25.57 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: yeah, you take what works, then hassle people to make it better. heheh |
| 15:25.58 | hrw|work | T0mW: portmap is only installed if nfs is in features, dropbear and hotplug are by default now |
| 15:26.13 | T0mW | hrw|work: right, they shouldn't be |
| 15:26.28 | Gerrath | I guess I should be able to blitz it in my main meta file. |
| 15:26.36 | hrw|work | T0mW: then propose better solution? |
| 15:26.49 | T0mW | hrw|work: that leaves the distributor no choice, the dropbear + hotplug should be part of the distro. |
| 15:27.17 | T0mW | hrw|work: IMO, the task-builder should be more generalized. |
| 15:27.39 | hrw|work | T0mW: we can/should probably move hotplug into pcmcia/usbhost tasks |
| 15:28.04 | T0mW | hrw|work: I've had to create my own task-bootzipit.bb and bootzipit-image.bb to get around some default assumptions as to what packages would be in an OE based distro. |
| 15:28.05 | hrw|work | T0mW: or add newer feature: hotplug |
| 15:29.13 | T0mW | hrw|work: the zipit is a closed-box, IOW, there is no usb, etc., that devices would plug into it. So hotplug is just a time waster for the initial boot. |
| 15:29.24 | koen | T0mW: task-bootstrap is hopelessly bloated |
| 15:29.31 | T0mW | koen: agreed |
| 15:29.34 | koen | T0mW: that's why OE is moving to task-base |
| 15:30.06 | hrw|work | T0mW: 2.6 kernel? |
| 15:30.25 | hrw|work | T0mW: you do not use udev at all? |
| 15:30.34 | T0mW | koen: yeah, we go from specific --> generalized --> specific again when traversing from machine + distro + local confs to the tasks/images. odd |
| 15:30.48 | T0mW | hrw|work: I have to use a 2.4 kernel in this box. |
| 15:30.56 | hrw|work | ahok |
| 15:31.04 | T0mW | hrw|work: I do use devfs though |
| 15:31.18 | hrw|work | T0mW: then task-base should not give you any hotplug |
| 15:31.40 | T0mW | hrw|work: the limitation on the kernel version is a binary only wifi module tied to 2.4.21 |
| 15:32.41 | T0mW | hrw|work: I'm almost finished with this phase of the project, just have some fbcon funnies to clear up, then I'll want to commit what I have into OE. |
| 15:34.30 | hrw|work | ok |
| 15:34.40 | T0mW | koen: It almost seems that the task-*'s themselves should be done away with or merged into the *-image's. There seems to be a peer-to-peer relationship that exists there that shouldn't? |
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| 15:34.50 | hrw|work | I'm thinking about adding 'modules' into features |
| 15:35.11 | hrw|work | so machines without kernel modules will not get module-init-tools/modutils at all |
| 15:35.15 | koen | T0mW: actually, no |
| 15:35.33 | koen | by using tasks I can have a user install extra stuff when he updates |
| 15:36.11 | hrw|work | T0mW: MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 alsa pcmcia keyboard touchscreen irda usbhost usbgadget" + DISTRO_FEATURES = "" gives very small rootfs |
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| 15:37.17 | hrw|work | cu guys |
| 15:37.26 | Crofton | hrw|work, have you updated to defcong for the osmap? |
| 15:37.37 | hrw|gone | Crofton: not touched it |
| 15:37.39 | Crofton | ok |
| 15:37.43 | Crofton | I'll look now then |
| 15:37.48 | hrw|gone | Crofton: I do not have experience with board at all |
| 15:37.49 | hrw|gone | cu |
| 15:37.52 | Crofton | ye |
| 15:37.53 | Crofton | bye |
| 15:39.51 | T0mW | koen: hmmm, for a beginner like me, the double-ended confusion of creating / customizing a machine.conf, distro.conf and local.conf, is compounded by complexities at the other end by choosing / creating a task-<x>.bb and <x>-image.bb. Shouldn't there be a 'task-clad_in_stone.bb' and 'clad_in_stone-image.bb' ? |
| 15:41.07 | T0mW | koen: then those far-end task/image could be affected by choices in machine/distro/local.conf |
| 15:41.37 | koen | I see no reason why limiting the flexibility would be good |
| 15:42.30 | T0mW | koen: yeah, true. I thought of that after I typed it. Maybe move those out of the package path into the conf dirs so that it is more obvious what they are there to do. |
| 15:42.52 | Gerrath | I guess if I want to change my rootfs some I should be able to add do_rootfs_prepend() to my main metafile and put in all my changes to that function? |
| 15:43.01 | T0mW | koen: just thinking out loud here. I like what you guys have put together, don't misunderstand. |
| 15:43.15 | koen | OE is already 'too easy' in a way that people just stop using common sense trying to build something |
| 15:43.18 | Gerrath | or I guess it would really be do_rootfs_append |
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| 15:44.57 | koen | and the current heavy users of OE have been using it for some years, so it's hard to find a 'fresh look' at OE |
| 15:46.31 | T0mW | koen: one other thing that I found to be a near show stopper for my using OE in the beginning. That of the local.conf files. For me, it was very confusing as to what combination of machine + distro confs to choose that "worked" together. Something representative that I could build and then customize to meet my needs. Those local.confs seem to be only in the hands of the developers of the particular machines. |
| 15:47.17 | T0mW | </critique> |
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| 15:49.48 | koen|away | machine and distro should be orthogonal |
| 15:49.58 | koen|away | that's the idea of OE |
| 15:50.03 | T0mW | nod |
| 15:50.53 | T0mW | koen|away: but, for example, there is a machine called h3600 but no distro called h3600 |
| 15:52.03 | Crofton | that is the point |
| 15:52.17 | Crofton | I should use amgstrom for the omap5912osk machine |
| 15:52.33 | Crofton | but instead I use openomap so I can fiddle with it |
| 15:52.46 | Crofton | but I intend to move to a "standard" distro one day |
| 15:53.22 | T0mW | now if I were to get an omap machine, I would not intuitively know that angstrom would be the distro to use on it. |
| 15:54.16 | Crofton | distro and machine are orthogonal |
| 15:54.26 | Crofton | I should be able to any distro on any machine |
| 15:54.35 | T0mW | true |
| 15:54.38 | Crofton | distro is tool version policy |
| 15:54.48 | Crofton | and available packages |
| 15:54.57 | Crofton | of course it isn't that simple :) |
| 15:55.27 | T0mW | I was attempting to build for h1940 but seemed to never get a build to finish out except for bootstrap-image |
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| 15:57.12 | T0mW | the Zipit was a test case to learn OE by doing something useful. My real project is an S3C2410 based board similar to the h1940 handheld. I would like to use gpe on it, but that won't fully build. |
| 15:59.03 | florian_kc | i should do a build of the gpe dev stuff and check what goes wrong |
| 15:59.13 | Crofton | what doesn't build (not that I know anything about gpe ...) |
| 15:59.28 | Crofton | can you use angstrom on the machine? |
| 16:00.01 | XorA | T0mW: booted my samsung board today :-) |
| 16:00.06 | T0mW | Crofton: heh, I don't recall that was about two weeks ago that I was messing with that. The last two weeks are a blur. heh |
| 16:00.16 | T0mW | XorA: ah, cool! |
| 16:00.35 | T0mW | XorA: nice to log into it, isn't it? |
| 16:00.50 | XorA | T0mW: well I have troubles with rootfs, but that'll be fixed tomorrow |
| 16:01.10 | mickeyl | florian_kc: that'd help. gpe is in really bogus state in .dev :/ |
| 16:02.05 | Crofton | alot of OE work consists of patiently waiting for the perosn who can solve your problem to have time to solve it .... |
| 16:02.20 | CosmicPenguin | The OE gods help those who help themselves |
| 16:02.22 | Crofton | and being able to explain very clearly what the problem is ... |
| 16:02.33 | Crofton | CosmicPenguin, part II of my answer |
| 16:02.33 | T0mW | I've got one more issue to resolve with the zipit, then I can put it to bed for a while. There is some framebuffer funnies I have to track down. Something is not properly wrapping lines when you cursor back over the line you typed. |
| 16:02.47 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 16:03.00 | Crofton | hrw did give me the specific action I needed to do to make the omap1 git kernel build again, I hope |
| 16:03.41 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: "patches gratefully accepted" |
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| 16:06.53 | hrw | re |
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| 16:11.35 | Crofton | hrw, compiling with new defconfig now |
| 16:11.41 | hrw | ok |
| 16:12.17 | Crofton | hmmm no vmlinux ... |
| 16:12.51 | Crofton | hmmm |
| 16:12.58 | Crofton | it moved to ./git now |
| 16:13.18 | hrw | yes |
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| 16:13.27 | hrw | wb koen |
| 16:13.59 | Crofton | also getting some kind of error in modules install ... |
| 16:15.01 | koen | mickeyl: now that we've finally are moving away from obsolete stuff (dbus 0.2x) gpe is in a pretty good state |
| 16:15.12 | koen | mickeyl: DISTRO=angstrom-2007.1 does wonders :) |
| 16:15.30 | hrw | Crofton: you NEED to set KERNEL_RELEASE = "2.6.18-omap1" to get correct modules dependencies |
| 16:15.45 | Crofton | in kernell bb file? |
| 16:15.52 | hrw | yes |
| 16:15.56 | Crofton | ok |
| 16:16.09 | Crofton | I am going to mod the file to take vmlinux from ./git |
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| 16:16.16 | Crofton | and add KERNEL_RELEASE |
| 16:16.28 | hrw | Crofton: ok. if you can also use tag for git... |
| 16:16.32 | Crofton | hrw, thanks for the help btw |
| 16:16.46 | Crofton | when there is a tag that is good :) |
| 16:17.02 | Crofton | I'll look once we get these issues sorted out |
| 16:17.05 | hrw | Crofton: no problem - I will do some work on omap stuff |
| 16:17.57 | Crofton | it is handy having someone who knows the OE ins and outs paying attetnion |
| 16:20.03 | hrw | 2;) |
| 16:22.30 | hrw | ~change 995 pln to eur |
| 16:23.20 | Crofton | hrw, the last tag is 7 days old and the dspgw updates went in 6 days ago |
| 16:24.00 | Crofton | we could try a build based on the 2.6.18 tag |
| 16:24.15 | Crofton | or see if the patch is available and a gitless version |
| 16:24.23 | Crofton | but I really care about the dspgw |
| 16:24.30 | hrw | Crofton: currently I just need it to build as I do not have such board |
| 16:24.42 | Crofton | :) |
| 16:24.49 | hrw | Crofton: you are omap maintainer so it is up to you how to solve it. |
| 16:25.13 | Crofton | I hope there is a usable tag made soon :) |
| 16:25.36 | Crofton | the other guy I have talked to is also interested in the dsp ge |
| 16:25.41 | Crofton | er gw |
| 16:26.00 | koen | isn't dspfs going to obsolete dspgw? |
| 16:26.08 | koen | or am I reading the mails wrong? |
| 16:26.13 | Crofton | I am not sure |
| 16:26.28 | Crofton | if it obsoletes or compliments |
| 16:26.55 | Crofton | there are still updates going in for dspgw |
| 16:28.47 | hrw | RP: any plans to improve 'addtask'? |
| 16:29.23 | RP | hrw: improve it to solve which problem? |
| 16:29.24 | hrw | RP: addtask rm_work right_before do_build |
| 16:29.51 | hrw | now it can be compile/stage/install/rm_work/package/deploy/build |
| 16:30.09 | hrw | or compile/stage/install/package/rm_work/deploy/build |
| 16:30.17 | RP | hrw: What if two people call right_before do_build ? |
| 16:30.59 | hrw | RP: priorities? task interdependencies? |
| 16:31.45 | RP | hrw: priorities are a road I'd prefer not to go down... |
| 16:31.52 | hrw | addtask do_deploy after do_package depends on do_package; addtask do_rm_work after do_package before do_build; == package/deploy/rm_work never mind which order they were defined |
| 16:32.39 | hrw | rm_work does not depend on other tasks so it is run as last one |
| 16:33.28 | RP | addtask do_rm_work after do_package,do_deploy before do_build is what we need? |
| 16:33.41 | hrw | yes |
| 16:34.24 | RP | hrw: We should be able to support that... |
| 16:34.32 | hrw | now? |
| 16:35.23 | RP | hrw: Maybe not. I need to look at the code |
| 16:35.36 | hrw | ok |
| 16:35.38 | hrw | thx |
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| 16:41.58 | hrw | looks like I will have something to add into oe doc.. |
| 16:42.02 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.02 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.11 | koen | :) |
| 16:42.23 | hrw | I already have one |
| 16:42.28 | pH5 | good evening |
| 16:42.33 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 16:42.34 | hrw | hi pH5 |
| 16:43.50 | hrw | tetex installing.. |
| 16:46.25 | hrw | thats remind me old times when I was working on my thesis.. |
| 16:46.59 | koen | does docbook need tetex? |
| 16:47.17 | hrw | docbook-utils need |
| 16:50.47 | Crofton | why does do_install look for vmlinux in the wrong place? |
| 16:51.36 | hrw | Crofton: KERNEL_OUTPUT var? |
| 16:53.20 | Crofton | KERNEL_OUTPUT = "${KERNEL_IMAGETYPE}" |
| 16:53.54 | hrw | I see KERNEL_OUTPUT = "arch/${ARCH}/boot/compressed/${KERNEL_IMAGETYPE}" |
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| 16:54.19 | Crofton | I change that |
| 17:07.35 | simcop2387 | how do i compile org.openembedded.oz354x for a collie without the 2.6 kernel? |
| 17:09.16 | hrw | set MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION = "2.4" and use oz 3.5.4.1 |
| 17:10.24 | hrw | hmm.. I think that we have few things too much in distros... |
| 17:10.34 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.34 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.34 | hrw | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:10.41 | hrw | can it be set in glibc? |
| 17:11.55 | Crofton | hrw, are we sure arch/arm/boot/vmlinux is not hard coded in something? |
| 17:12.18 | hrw | not I |
| 17:14.18 | Crofton | KERNEL OUTPUT is set in kernel.bbclass |
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| 17:14.49 | Crofton | How exactly do override that in the bb file? |
| 17:14.53 | hrw | Crofton: then set it after 'inherit kernel' |
| 17:14.59 | Crofton | thanks! |
| 17:17.32 | hrw | np |
| 17:19.01 | simcop2387 | hrw: thanks, that seems to be what is going on :) |
| 17:20.00 | hrw | simcop2387: no problem - I checked that few days ago |
| 17:20.26 | hrw | Crofton: there is no 2.6.18-omap yet |
| 17:20.36 | Crofton | ok |
| 17:20.39 | Crofton | muru.com? |
| 17:21.01 | Crofton | http://www.muru.com/linux/omap/ |
| 17:21.04 | Crofton | nope |
| 17:27.39 | ggilbert | :0 |
| 17:27.47 | ggilbert | oops. this isn't vi |
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| 17:32.41 | Crofton | hrw, looks like it ran to completion |
| 17:32.59 | hrw | Crofton: great - push it |
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| 17:34.07 | koen | hey zecke |
| 17:34.12 | zecke | ho |
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| 17:37.34 | hrw | hmm.. someone remember why we use module-init-tools instead of busybox? |
| 17:38.18 | koen | because the busybox ones didn't work with 2.6 |
| 17:38.40 | hrw | ah. |
| 17:39.45 | CIA-9 | 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r629adcaf... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 17:39.46 | CIA-9 | omap5912osk.conf : prepare for task-base stuff |
| 17:39.46 | CIA-9 | defconfig : Update defconfig to follow git and enable dsp gateway |
| 17:39.46 | CIA-9 | linux-omap1_2.6.x+git.bb : Fix problems in build process |
| 17:40.09 | hrw | Crofton: split that kind of stuff in future |
| 17:40.19 | Crofton | hmm |
| 17:40.24 | Crofton | which stuff |
| 17:40.31 | koen | machine.conf and kernel.bb |
| 17:40.32 | Crofton | the machine file was an accident :) |
| 17:40.36 | Crofton | I know |
| 17:40.51 | Crofton | I jsut bitches a guy out over a huge diff in our svn :) |
| 17:40.58 | simcop2387 | hrw: ah cool |
| 17:41.06 | Crofton | well, not really bitched, but we can all see the problem |
| 17:41.25 | Crofton | the machine change is commented out also |
| 17:41.36 | hrw | Crofton: I will merge and look - I have made some changes in machine too |
| 17:41.50 | Crofton | ok |
| 17:42.12 | Crofton | I really should have reverted my machine file ..... |
| 17:43.33 | hrw | Crofton: then do revert of changes if you need |
| 17:44.43 | Crofton | not needed, feel free to update the machine with your worl |
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| 17:44.46 | Crofton | work |
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| 17:45.33 | koen | hrw: did the commentspam protector on oz.org go bad? |
| 17:45.46 | hrw | koen: ? |
| 17:45.59 | hrw | koen: root@home:/tmp/busybox-1.2.1# ./busybox insmod /lib/modules/2.6.17-beyond3/kernel/lib/zlib_inflate/zlib_inflate.ko |
| 17:46.01 | hrw | works |
| 17:46.19 | koen | hrw: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/03/18/openzaurus-354-released/#comment-4703 |
| 17:46.21 | hrw | have to go |
| 17:46.26 | koen | hrw: that's good news about busybox |
| 17:46.32 | koen | 0.6x didn't work |
| 17:46.42 | hrw | fsck |
| 17:46.49 | Crofton | hrw, do you plan to commit osk machine file stuff soon? |
| 17:48.08 | hrw | koen: removed |
| 17:48.34 | hrw | Crofton: now I have to go - will review and push in 2h or tomorrow (20:00 here) |
| 17:49.09 | Crofton | ok |
| 17:49.20 | hrw | cu |
| 17:49.21 | Crofton | I want to rebuild bootstrap-image soon |
| 17:49.23 | Crofton | I will wait |
| 17:49.40 | hrw | Crofton: I also have change to openomap distro for you ;) |
| 17:50.11 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * rf1eebc81... 10/ (1 packages/tuxnes packages/tuxnes/tuxnes_0.75.bb): |
| 17:50.11 | CIA-9 | packages/tuxnes : Addition of skeleton tuxnes.bb |
| 17:50.11 | CIA-9 | * Addition of Tuxnes (Nintendo 8bit Emulator) into OE. |
| 17:50.11 | CIA-9 | * Needs fixing to compile. |
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| 18:09.43 | florian | re |
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| 18:14.07 | Kristoffer | Anyone else having bad issues with perl builds lately? |
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| 18:17.57 | koen | Kristoffer: check the mailinglist |
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| 18:23.01 | Kristoffer | koen, found it. Im experiencing but #1439 |
| 18:23.04 | Kristoffer | bug |
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| 18:28.23 | Kristoffer | v8jlene, updated bug 1439 for you. Im having same issues |
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| 18:59.15 | Gerrath | I'm trying to compile generic-unstable distro but it keeps having errors when compiling glibc-intermediate-2.4-r10: Log: http://pastebin.ca/184273 Has anyone compiled it recently? I'm using an Xscale processor (PXA270). |
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| 19:03.34 | psokolovsky | Well, who added 4000th .bb? ;-) |
| 19:03.36 | gumz | re .. how i can make a "make clean" like with bitbak ? |
| 19:03.49 | psokolovsky | gumz, -c clean |
| 19:03.58 | gumz | tx |
| 19:04.31 | gumz | "Nothing to do. Use 'bitbake world' to build everything, or run 'bitbake --help'" |
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| 19:04.56 | psokolovsky | gumz, bitbake <pkg> -c clean, of course |
| 19:05.13 | gumz | of course :) |
| 19:05.22 | TuomasT | Bitbake complains about "no free bitbake after 2005 something". This is with an old oe enviroment I set up somewhere around 2005 for bulding openzaurus apps. Is there a free version today? |
| 19:05.41 | gumz | psokolovsky : work, thanks |
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| 19:06.03 | psokolovsky | TuomasT, of course there's |
| 19:08.00 | koen|away | TuomasT: not 'bitbake', 'bitkeeper' |
| 19:08.17 | psokolovsky | lol |
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| 19:09.43 | psokolovsky | koen|away: just noticed: |
| 19:09.44 | psokolovsky | OE_REVISION = "format_version "1" |
| 19:09.44 | psokolovsky | new_manifest [0000000000000000000000000000000000000004] |
| 19:09.44 | psokolovsky | old_revision [629adcaf78ed27ef81715e0e1b0ba32f4fb9ee20]" |
| 19:09.57 | psokolovsky | OE Build Configuration: |
| 19:09.57 | psokolovsky | BB_VERSION = "1.6.1" |
| 19:09.57 | psokolovsky | OE_REVISION = "format_version "1" |
| 19:09.57 | psokolovsky | new_manifest [0000000000000000000000000000000000000004] |
| 19:09.58 | psokolovsky | old_revision [629adcaf78ed27ef81715e0e1b0ba32f4fb9ee20]" |
| 19:09.58 | psokolovsky | TARGET_ARCH = "arm" |
| 19:10.00 | psokolovsky | TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi" |
| 19:10.05 | koen | yeah |
| 19:10.25 | koen | OE needs to use mtn automate get_base_revision or something similar |
| 19:10.39 | koen | I use bbcollections, so I just get <unkown> |
| 19:10.43 | koen | TuomasT: see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 19:12.36 | koen | 'mtn automate get_base_revision_id' to be exact |
| 19:15.30 | gumz | NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r12: task do_configure: failed : > checking for kernel header at least 2.6.15... too old! |
| 19:15.57 | gumz | i have removed the 2.6.15 kernel header in conf file ... but he always want kernel header 2.6.15 |
| 19:18.34 | Genesis | is there some class to modify bb files ? |
| 19:20.05 | koen | maybe the 'vi' or 'emacs' classes |
| 19:24.27 | Genesis | arf |
| 19:25.54 | Genesis | i'd like to parse it to make a generator of bb file |
| 19:27.10 | CosmicPenguin | That sort of precludes the whole "reproducablity" thing |
| 19:30.20 | Genesis | first goal will be to add/remove some dependancies of a images bb file |
| 19:30.39 | Genesis | in function of what my software need as dependancies |
| 19:45.25 | Gerrath | does glibc and glibc-intermediate need to be the same version? |
| 19:47.48 | Gerrath | I just looked in the bb for glibc-intermediate and it requires the glibc of the same version so I guess that answers my question :-) |
| 19:54.50 | Gerrath | can anyone explain to me the difference between glibc and glibc-intermediate? is the intermediate the one it builds first to be able to build the tools to finally cross-compile the final glibc? |
| 20:14.07 | blaster8 | almost |
| 20:14.34 | blaster8 | the intermediate glibc is used to compile the final toolchain |
| 20:14.41 | blaster8 | including the final glibc |
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| 20:15.35 | Gerrath | blaster8, ok that is what I thought.. do you know of a distro that glibc_2.4 compiles for? |
| 20:26.59 | hrw | Gerrath: angstrom |
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| 20:33.05 | Gerrath | hrw, thanks.. I will give it a try. |
| 20:33.27 | Gerrath | hrw, generic-unstable does NOT work. |
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| 20:36.21 | hrw | Crofton: two changesets for you |
| 20:36.58 | hrw | Gerrath: ;( cant test this |
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| 20:37.24 | Crofton | thanks hrw |
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| 20:38.37 | hrw | Crofton: do testing - some modules maybe will need adding |
| 20:39.01 | hrw | Crofton: we also need to fix^Wadd some stuff into task-base probably |
| 20:40.31 | Crofton | I will rebuild bootstrap-image and look it over tonight |
| 20:41.08 | hrw | ok |
| 20:41.39 | Crofton | does the new mtn use less memory? |
| 20:42.02 | koen | for commit and log, yes |
| 20:42.09 | Crofton | update? |
| 20:42.14 | koen | yes |
| 20:42.22 | koen | anything that searches for a 'head' |
| 20:42.27 | Crofton | time to upgrade or buy more RAM for this machine |
| 20:42.31 | hrw | I have only 512M here now |
| 20:42.33 | Crofton | I am killing it |
| 20:42.41 | koen | swap? |
| 20:42.46 | Crofton | same here, but I run our groups svn server on it |
| 20:42.52 | hrw | second 512M is on desk because I want to test how it will work with one |
| 20:42.55 | Crofton | and they bitch when things get slow |
| 20:43.23 | hrw | Crofton: no possibilities to get^Wuse other machine? |
| 20:43.23 | Crofton | when I am done with paper, I will set up home machine to do builds |
| 20:43.34 | Crofton | only home machine |
| 20:43.59 | Crofton | I have been very time limited the past few weeks |
| 20:44.54 | koen | hrw: will they ship a board to you to test on? |
| 20:45.42 | Crofton | hrw, alot of the old modules may b built in with new config |
| 20:45.49 | Crofton | I was module happy |
| 20:46.21 | Crofton | but it makes no sense unless the thing is remvoeable or rarely used |
| 20:46.32 | Crofton | of course I don't have a display on one of my boards |
| 20:46.36 | Crofton | and I don't really use it |
| 20:46.53 | hrw | koen: what for? for me it does not make any differ if I have machine on desk or have it remotely |
| 20:47.07 | koen | ah, right |
| 20:47.15 | hrw | Crofton: 2.6.12-rc5 has more modules |
| 20:47.15 | koen | forgot about remove access :) |
| 20:47.37 | koen | remote* |
| 20:47.43 | Crofton | the OSK is $295 usd |
| 20:47.50 | Crofton | the LCD is like $800 usd |
| 20:47.59 | hrw | ~change 295 usd to pln |
| 20:48.08 | koen | the imx31ads is $5k |
| 20:48.32 | hrw | 955 PLN is sempron64 + mainboard + 2x512 ddr2 |
| 20:48.53 | hrw | much better toy then omap5912osk I think |
| 20:49.35 | Crofton | all depends on what you want to do with the ty |
| 20:50.19 | hrw | Crofton: some random builds from time to time... for example omap1510/generic |
| 20:50.42 | hrw | or x86/openzaurus or wrt54/openomap |
| 20:50.54 | hrw | or c7x0/celinux-test |
| 20:50.59 | hrw | or other combo |
| 20:51.35 | Crofton | thank god bitbake no longer takes all the RAM in a machine ... |
| 20:51.42 | hrw | or 'lets fetch world and look how much we miss' |
| 20:51.57 | hrw | Crofton: with 4k recipes it would take 2-4G... |
| 20:52.00 | hrw | brb |
| 20:54.08 | gumz | the toolchain don't compile for me ... he want "checking for kernel header at least 2.6.15... too old!" and i see that : NOTE: fetch http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~mmazur/linux-libc-headers/linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.1.tar.bz2 ... what i can do ???? |
| 20:54.59 | koen | specify an other version for linux-libc-headers |
| 20:55.12 | gumz | where i specify that ? |
| 20:57.22 | Genesis | a+ |
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| 21:08.11 | hrw | cu |
| 21:09.22 | gumz | :'( |
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| 21:29.54 | Crofton | bother glibc-intermediate-2.4 build just blew up on me ... |
| 21:30.27 | Crofton | hrw, thoughts? |
| 21:34.14 | XorA | Crofton: we are seeing glibc-2.4 failure at wolfson |
| 21:35.00 | Crofton | this is the glibc-intermediate, I suppose it ould be related |
| 21:35.29 | Crofton | undefined references to __atfct_seterrno type problems? |
| 21:35.52 | XorA | Crofton: sounds familiar, it was lrg's machine that failed. |
| 21:36.32 | XorA | Crofton: is it related to the openat and chownat patches that were added a couple of days ago? |
| 21:37.14 | Crofton | not sure |
| 21:37.45 | Crofton | I was hoping it would build so I could check what hrw did with the omap stuff :) |
| 21:38.16 | XorA | Crofton: Id try removing those two patches, if that works could you email oe@ |
| 21:38.38 | Crofton | grr, I am supposed to working on a paper ... |
| 21:41.11 | XorA | time for me to sleep |
| 21:41.15 | Crofton | gn |
| 21:41.26 | XorA|gone | good luck Crofton |
| 21:43.12 | Crofton | trying your suggestion now |
| 21:53.07 | CosmicPenguin | RP: btw, my sugar rootfs is 63M |
| 21:56.58 | theuns | Crofton: in unix/sysv/linux/openat.c, comment out the top redundant define block around #define OPENAT - seems to work for me. |
| 21:57.09 | theuns | Don't know enough about OE to suggest a clean way of doing it. |
| 21:57.30 | theuns | Need to do it for both glibc-intermediate and glibc... |
| 22:02.15 | XorA|gone | theuns: clean way would be rediff the patch and submit it to bugtracker |
| 22:04.33 | Crofton | removing those two patches solved the problem |
| 22:04.41 | Crofton | the patch is in glibc |
| 22:04.54 | Crofton | -int... includes the glibc bb file |
| 22:05.11 | XorA|gone | Crofton: sorted, that is good to know |
| 22:05.21 | XorA|gone | Crofton: can fix the build at work tomorrow then |
| 22:06.31 | Crofton | hopefully someone sorts the patch out |
| 22:06.52 | Crofton | any idea who to bother? |
| 22:08.13 | XorA|gone | Crofton: mickey|bbl submitted I think |
| 22:08.13 | XorA|gone | Crofton: you can always file a bug at bugs.oe.org |
| 22:08.14 | Crofton | ok |
| 22:08.19 | v8jlene | Crofton: Are the problems caused by the fix-fchownat-20060808.patch that mickey submited two days ago? |
| 22:08.26 | Crofton | I suppose :) |
| 22:08.47 | XorA|gone | anyway I really shall go sleep now, bye |
| 22:12.37 | Crofton | that one or openat-bugzilla |
| 22:12.42 | Crofton | I commented both out |
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