| 00:01.01 | psokolovsky | v8jlene: Nice! I just re-read previous thread and also think it's good idea (now that I faced that too ;-) |
| 00:03.15 | v8jlene | Even just mergering the i{4,5,6}86-linux files would make my life easier! |
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| 04:40.19 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rda740e6f... 10/ (1 classes/package.bbclass): |
| 04:40.19 | CIA-9 | package.bbclass: Make "strippedness" check overridable. |
| 04:40.19 | CIA-9 | * Factor out "strippedness" substring as FILE_UNSTRIPPED_MATCH. |
| 04:40.19 | CIA-9 | * Allow FILE_UNSTRIPPED_MATCH to be overriden, useful to support |
| 04:40.19 | CIA-9 | other executable formats. |
| 04:40.20 | CIA-9 | * Also, don't complain if .debug directory already exist |
| 04:40.22 | CIA-9 | (can heppen if manually run BB tasks, e.g. for debugging). |
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| 05:33.45 | eno | on x86_64, what variable(s) eval to "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" ? |
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| 05:48.15 | v8jlene | eno: I'd guess that's a string with arch, vendor and os.. so if it's your build system it'd be HOST_SYS (look at the "Architecture-dependent build variables" in bitbake.conf) |
| 05:48.46 | v8jlene | sorry, BUILD_SYS not HOST_SYS |
| 05:49.18 | eno | v8jlene: thx, will look at that |
| 06:16.28 | hrw | hi |
| 06:20.11 | hrw | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/09/12/haerwu-created/ |
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| 06:25.18 | v8jlene | hi hrw |
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| 07:04.01 | hrw | cu |
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| 07:33.29 | zecke | koen|away: my macbook is not totally broken |
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| 07:34.40 | leoncamel | hi, folks. |
| 07:34.42 | leoncamel | if I want build opie, which distro do you preferred ? |
| 07:41.20 | den-ros | leoncamel: distro on host computer? |
| 07:42.14 | leoncamel | den-ros, on pxa27x or pxa25x CPU. |
| 07:42.46 | leoncamel | den-ros, xscale's series architecture. |
| 07:44.31 | den-ros | leoncamel: on host i use SuSE - contain full and complete developmend system. You plan to build opie on PDA with XScale? |
| 07:45.32 | leoncamel | den-ros, OH. sorry, what I said "distro" is the one of the configure in local.conf. |
| 07:46.04 | leoncamel | den-ros, you can get all acceptable distros in 'ls org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro' |
| 07:46.10 | leoncamel | s/in/by |
| 07:46.16 | den-ros | ok :) |
| 07:47.24 | leoncamel | den-ros, and how about yours ? |
| 07:48.00 | leoncamel | den-ros, which "distro" and "machine" ? |
| 07:48.01 | den-ros | leoncamel: sorry - i did not yet start use OE |
| 07:48.14 | leoncamel | den-ros, OK. |
| 07:48.37 | leoncamel | den-ros, hmm, how about your SuSE ? which version are you using ? |
| 07:48.49 | den-ros | leoncamel: 10.0 |
| 07:49.13 | leoncamel | den-ros, OH. are you using XGL now ? |
| 07:49.31 | den-ros | leoncamel: not yet too, friend |
| 07:49.53 | leoncamel | den-ros, :). it is very cool with XGL. |
| 07:50.14 | hrw|work | morning |
| 07:50.44 | den-ros | leoncamel: i did not yet need XGL - but i agree it can be make GUI nice look :) |
| 07:50.53 | leoncamel | hrw|work, here is 15:50 now . :). good afternoon . |
| 07:50.59 | hrw|work | leoncamel: openzaurus-unstable should work |
| 07:51.01 | hrw|work | ~ugt |
| 07:51.03 | ibot | ugt is, like, Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 07:51.40 | zecke | morning hrw |
| 07:51.49 | XorA | morning |
| 07:52.48 | den-ros | hrw|work: hey |
| 07:53.16 | leoncamel | hrw|work, Haha.. very intersting ugt. :) |
| 07:53.50 | hrw|work | den-ros: anyway xgl on nvidia/ati need non-free drivers ;( |
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| 07:57.26 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/09/12/haerwu-created/ - have to write to ML.. |
| 07:58.07 | XorA | hrw|work: nothing wrong with the nvidia drivers, the ati drivers on the other hand are a whole different ball gamer |
| 07:58.28 | den-ros | leoncamel: on my main work notebook Intel video |
| 07:58.29 | hrw|work | XorA: I use my mx440 with free driver |
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| 07:58.50 | XorA | hrw|work: I like my gfx accelleration :-) |
| 07:59.31 | zecke | hrw|work: congratulation, where is the ogg pronouncing HaeRWu? |
| 08:00.10 | XorA | looks like a sneeze to me |
| 08:00.35 | RP | morning all |
| 08:00.56 | den-ros | RP: hi |
| 08:01.25 | XorA | hey RP |
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| 08:03.21 | hrw|work | hi RP |
| 08:03.41 | hrw|work | zecke: you will hear me during oedem |
| 08:04.50 | zecke | I'm looking forward |
| 08:10.03 | mickeyl | morning folks |
| 08:10.07 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 08:10.08 | RP | morning mickeyl |
| 08:10.29 | mickeyl | zecke: hey, how about the occam garni for devdays? |
| 08:10.38 | XorA | hey mickeyl |
| 08:10.51 | mickeyl | zecke: this is 1.3 km from the venue |
| 08:13.29 | zecke | mickeyl: what is "occam garni"? |
| 08:13.33 | zecke | :} |
| 08:13.34 | mickeyl | heh |
| 08:13.38 | mickeyl | zecke: a hotel |
| 08:13.49 | zecke | mickeyl: you are bringing your wife? |
| 08:13.56 | mickeyl | zecke: to where? |
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| 08:14.12 | mickeyl | zecke: there's a chance Sabine will come to oedem. this is why i had to book the berliner bär |
| 08:14.13 | do13_ | morning all |
| 08:14.21 | zecke | mickeyl: ah, now I get it :) |
| 08:14.30 | zecke | be back in a couple of minutes |
| 08:14.35 | mickeyl | ok, no hurry |
| 08:15.01 | mickeyl | morning do13 |
| 08:15.17 | mickeyl | hmm... no milk for coffee |
| 08:15.20 | mickeyl | darn |
| 08:15.41 | do13_ | hey mickeyl |
| 08:16.44 | hrw|work | mickeyl: real coffee is pure black coffee |
| 08:16.48 | hrw|work | hi dirk |
| 08:16.49 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 08:17.03 | hrw|work | I sometimes to one exception and add sugar |
| 08:17.14 | do13_ | hi Marcin |
| 08:18.24 | mickeyl | i stopped using sugars in _any_ drinks 10 years ago |
| 08:19.32 | zecke | need to call apple now :} |
| 08:19.38 | mickeyl | zecke: why's that? |
| 08:19.50 | zecke | mickeyl: Random Shutdown Syndrome (RSS) |
| 08:19.58 | mickeyl | argh :/ i heard about that one |
| 08:20.00 | zecke | mickeyl: if I'm lucky it stay on a minute |
| 08:20.08 | mickeyl | bummer. |
| 08:20.17 | mickeyl | oh apropos... mac expo in france today... |
| 08:20.40 | zecke | hehe |
| 08:21.22 | hrw|work | new alsa 1.0.12 |
| 08:24.11 | zecke | mickeyl: at least they have an auto callback service |
| 08:24.47 | mickeyl | ya, that's good |
| 08:26.56 | mickeyl | http://www3.hrs.de/search.do%3Bjsessionid=D9C07818597850CD4C1E96DA64C44F9E?clientId=ZGU-&cid=3-4&randomID=-9223372036834882822&activity=showSearchResult |
| 08:27.36 | mickeyl | 2nd one from the top. only 2 stars, but hey... we just want to sleep there, don't we? |
| 08:27.36 | mickeyl | or do you need wifi? ;) |
| 08:28.13 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:28.43 | mickeyl | heheh, righto |
| 08:28.46 | mickeyl | let |
| 08:28.51 | zecke | mickeyl: they present me the query page |
| 08:30.16 | mickeyl | woah they're starting @ 0800 ! |
| 08:30.22 | mickeyl | (devday agenda) |
| 08:30.38 | mickeyl | i wonder whether we should arrive one day earlier |
| 08:30.44 | mickeyl | what do you think? |
| 08:31.20 | den-ros | mickeyl: hi (shugar needed to brain work... :) ) |
| 08:32.59 | mickeyl | zecke: yeah, i definitly think we need to be there at 10.10. |
| 08:33.04 | mickeyl | den-ros: right :) |
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| 08:35.39 | den-ros | mickeyl: (but i use shugar and know programming at low level - and You did not use shugar and know programming wery well - so conclusion - that knowing programming stop brain work :) ) |
| 08:35.41 | ade|desk | morning all |
| 08:37.10 | den-ros | ade|desk: morning |
| 08:40.30 | zecke | mickeyl: yes we need to |
| 08:43.36 | mickeyl | zecke: ok, let me just reserve this thing. if anything goes wrong, we can cancel it without any fees until 10.10., 12h |
| 08:45.10 | zecke | mickeyl: I have not seen it, is brekfast included? |
| 08:45.29 | mickeyl | zecke: it is. we probably don't need it because TT has a light breakfast as well |
| 08:45.52 | mickeyl | twice doesn't hurt anyway ;) |
| 08:45.58 | zecke | mickeyl: I bet they mean: Love is your food so let us hug each other |
| 08:46.03 | mickeyl | hehehe |
| 08:47.27 | zecke | mickeyl: hmm, ideas how to force support to send you a new macbook? |
| 08:47.42 | zecke | mickeyl: I really don't want to wait 8 days for repair |
| 08:47.55 | mickeyl | zecke: you say you need it for important work otherwise you lose money and want them to pay |
| 08:48.20 | zecke | mickeyl: I have not outlined the consequences... hmm |
| 08:48.31 | zecke | mickeyl: to the name, it might just be a japanese sleeping 'cabin' |
| 08:48.38 | zecke | mickeyl: I have seen them in TV |
| 08:48.55 | hrw|work | mickeyl: I hope that you will get better 'garni' then I had year ago in slovakia |
| 08:49.13 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 08:49.34 | mickeyl | hrw|work: how was it? |
| 08:50.02 | hrw|work | mickeyl: awful, dusty, hard-to-reach power outlets, balls of dust |
| 08:50.17 | zecke | mickeyl: I will bring a vacum cleaner |
| 08:50.23 | mickeyl | zecke: that will do :D |
| 08:51.46 | hrw|work | zecke: and power cords? |
| 08:52.01 | hrw|work | or rather: (ELEKTR) extension lead (BRIT), extension cord (US) |
| 08:52.14 | zecke | hrw|work: I have a macbook, I do not need power |
| 08:52.35 | hrw|work | brb |
| 08:52.42 | zecke | mickeyl: ah funny, I will leave germany and I would have to leave without notebook |
| 08:53.17 | mickeyl | oh right. akademy |
| 08:53.32 | zecke | mickeyl: okay, need to try harder |
| 08:54.30 | zecke | mickeyl: do you know python 'stat' well? |
| 08:54.45 | zecke | mickeyl: I would like to have something like the find -perm '-' option |
| 08:55.03 | mickeyl | zecke: -perm - is 000? |
| 08:55.47 | zecke | mickeyl: no, '-' says to match set bits |
| 08:55.55 | mickeyl | ah |
| 08:56.07 | mickeyl | well, os.stat only takes one argument |
| 08:56.09 | mickeyl | which is the name |
| 08:56.32 | zecke | mickeyl: and ST_MODE gives you the mode |
| 08:56.37 | zecke | and I could use & myself |
| 08:56.50 | mickeyl | yep |
| 08:59.43 | zecke | later then :) |
| 08:59.48 | mickeyl | righto |
| 09:00.57 | CIA-9 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r4377a116... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): classes/insane.bbclass: Run the first test of the insanity.bbclass |
| 09:01.05 | CIA-9 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r9fa7d7e5... 10/ (1 classes/icecc.bbclass): |
| 09:01.05 | CIA-9 | classes/icecc.bbclass: Use split so we get the real version instead of a single charachter |
| 09:01.05 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.05 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.05 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.10 | CIA-9 | 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rc2682ec1... 10/ (1 classes/insane.bbclass): |
| 09:01.10 | CIA-9 | classes/insanity.bbclass: Check for possible insecure RPATH, make it work with the funy BitBake scope |
| 09:01.11 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.13 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.15 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.19 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:04.00 | XorA | whats insanity.bbclass? |
| 09:10.37 | zecke | XorA: it is a bbclass detecting broken packages |
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| 09:10.58 | zecke | XorA: there is not much it can do now. It is inspured by ebuild QA checks and will do the same checks |
| 09:11.00 | hrw|work | _arm package with host binaries etc? |
| 09:11.23 | zecke | XorA: it will check for broken permissions, dangerous RPATH, if PACKAGE_ARCH matches the ELF e_machine |
| 09:11.51 | zecke | XorA: if installed .la and .pc files look correctly, if staged .la and .pc files do not carry 'installed' and do not point to WORKDIR |
| 09:13.06 | hrw|work | zecke: nice idea - will run |
| 09:13.09 | zecke | XorA: and I only needed about a year and now it can check for dangerous rpath |
| 09:13.32 | zecke | hrw|work: With my current workload, speed, I will need another year to implement the tests :} |
| 09:14.26 | hrw|work | I'm waiting for day when 768M ram will be enough for my system usage.. |
| 09:15.38 | hrw|work | time to dig for smallest (ram usage) possible gui (qt/kde/gtk2) player with streaming, playlist... |
| 09:15.43 | hrw|work | amarok take too much |
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| 09:25.30 | hrw|work | ~lart joomla for not allowing to multiple logins on same userid |
| 09:32.01 | hrw|work | ~lart mtn |
| 09:32.18 | hrw|work | invariant ;( |
| 09:32.52 | hrw|work | no OE building today - need to get newer mtn, migrate db etc.. |
| 09:33.01 | XorA | zecke: cool |
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| 09:40.20 | hrw|work | argh |
| 09:40.28 | hrw|work | ~lart monotone again |
| 09:41.06 | hrw|work | mtn: NOTE: this upgrade cleared the roster cache |
| 09:41.06 | hrw|work | mtn: you should now run 'mtn db regenerate_rosters' |
| 09:41.19 | hrw|work | mtn: this will take rest of your day |
| 09:43.28 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:43.33 | florian_kc | eeks |
| 09:43.34 | XorA | hrw|work: sounds painful |
| 09:43.49 | hrw|work | XorA: you will get same with 0.30 |
| 09:44.18 | XorA | hrw|work: but by then Ill have a 4 Core CPU to run it on :-) |
| 09:45.26 | XorA | or 4 CPU cores to put it right way round |
| 09:46.24 | hrw|work | XorA: intel has core quad already |
| 09:46.34 | XorA | hrw|work: 2x Dual Core |
| 09:46.49 | hrw|work | XorA: in one chip |
| 09:46.50 | XorA | hrw|work: is apparently the machine Liam ordered for me |
| 09:46.57 | hrw|work | XorA: I know that |
| 09:47.06 | XorA | hrw|work: two chips |
| 09:47.25 | hrw|work | XorA: I know that - Liam told that config on irc |
| 09:48.00 | XorA | hrw|work: then I have misunderstood you :-) |
| 09:48.09 | hrw|work | np |
| 09:48.22 | XorA | for home Id love an amd64 4x4 :-) |
| 09:48.35 | hrw|work | XorA: Id any amd64 |
| 09:49.03 | XorA | hrw|work: dont get a shuttle one |
| 09:49.26 | hrw|work | XorA: if I will buy amd64 then it will be 'SkładaQ' (homemade) |
| 09:50.24 | XorA | hrw|work: just make sure plenty of airflow in the case |
| 09:50.29 | XorA | hrw|work: thats where mine fails |
| 09:50.44 | XorA | hrw|work: and Kergoth sees the same problems on his |
| 09:52.46 | XorA | anyway time has come to catch train into office |
| 09:53.00 | hrw|work | XorA: Scythe Kama Bay on front (12mm in 3x5,25" bays), 80mm on rear, 80mm on top |
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| 10:28.37 | hrw|work | mail to ML sent. |
| 10:28.38 | zecke | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjhi_FHxY8k |
| 10:29.55 | hrw|work | hrw account is taken on youtube ;( |
| 10:30.25 | hrw|work | ~lart arts |
| 10:30.29 | hrw|work | ~lart flash plugin |
| 10:30.32 | hrw|work | ~lart adobe |
| 10:36.46 | chouimat | morning |
| 10:36.57 | hrw|work | hi chouimat |
| 10:37.22 | hrw|work | ~lart mtn for changing db format again |
| 10:40.01 | zecke | hrw|work: did you at least view the video? |
| 10:41.14 | hrw|work | zecke: no - had to close it to release some swap |
| 10:41.51 | hrw|work | 768M is too low for today desktops ;( |
| 10:42.21 | hrw|work | 17181 hrw 15 0 198m 93m 21m R 0.7 12.4 11:27.29 firefox-bin 6209 hrw 15 0 102m 69m 26m S 0.0 9.1 2:47.42 konqueror |
| 10:42.22 | zecke | hrw|work: I will talk about this at aKademy but fear to blow up |
| 10:42.41 | hrw|work | zecke: amarok >100M, konq >100M |
| 10:42.54 | hrw|work | kopete nearly 100M :( |
| 10:43.31 | hrw|work | sooner or later people will switch back to mpg321 + elinks |
| 10:44.04 | hrw|work | 18818 hrw 15 0 48452 10m 8832 S 0.0 1.4 0:00.22 kio_imap4 |
| 10:44.04 | hrw|work | 19019 hrw 15 0 47960 10m 8492 S 0.0 1.3 0:00.12 kio_pop3 |
| 10:44.28 | hrw|work | another mem eaters |
| 10:47.19 | do13_ | hrw|work: why do you need amarok for dev work? |
| 10:50.36 | hrw|work | do13_: music + headphones == nicer work atmosphere |
| 10:50.57 | hrw|work | especially with nectarine streaming |
| 10:52.24 | do13_ | hehe |
| 10:53.48 | chouimat | http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/ |
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| 10:53.51 | hrw|work | do13_: 5 people in room with different music preferred... from time to time discussions about projects which I do not have to care |
| 10:53.58 | hrw|work | chouimat: nice read it is |
| 10:54.35 | chouimat | hrw|work: I want a motherboard with 8 of those ... should be ok while rebuilding anything ;) |
| 10:55.03 | hrw|work | chouimat: and flash based harddisks to get fast i/o |
| 10:55.47 | do13_ | hrw|work: is openembedded-devel a marketplace for consulting work? ;-) |
| 10:56.18 | hrw|work | do13_: not quite but its one of places |
| 10:57.16 | do13_ | hrw|work: good luck for you business. Do you have first contracts? |
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| 11:05.16 | hrw|work | ~lart kopete |
| 11:05.19 | XorA | morning |
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| 11:12.47 | hrw|work | do13_: discussed with some |
| 11:14.36 | do13_ | hrw|work: I did this step a few weeks ago. My first contract was payed kernel work. |
| 11:15.49 | hrw|work | ~lart mtn again |
| 11:16.46 | hrw|work | mtn 0.30 migration on this machine will take 3-4h... |
| 11:18.58 | chouimat | hrw|work: they change things again? |
| 11:19.42 | do13_ | mtn 0.30 is out? |
| 11:19.42 | hrw|work | do13_: next week - I use version which koen got after 'invariant' bug |
| 11:19.51 | do13_ | thx |
| 11:20.18 | do13_ | which version runs on the server? |
| 11:20.42 | hrw|work | 0.29 or 0.28 |
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| 11:44.06 | hrw|work | mtn: 4700/10176 after 2h ;( |
| 11:44.42 | chouimat | hrw|work: converting to 0.30? |
| 11:45.37 | hrw|work | yes |
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| 11:53.35 | hrw|work | http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=6fe9febb8af2f82f9caace1aa1c00cd8de7469ac |
| 11:53.48 | hrw|work | 2G SD/MMC cards pushed into mainline |
| 11:54.06 | hrw|work | Finally |
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| 12:01.27 | jerrybme | morning all |
| 12:02.55 | jerrybme | I'm stumped as why when I build oz 3.5.4.2 image why the /lib/modules/2.6.17 directory is empty |
| 12:03.13 | hrw|work | jerrybme: ? |
| 12:03.43 | jerrybme | I can build the gpe image in dev fine |
| 12:04.10 | jerrybme | local config is basically the same |
| 12:05.05 | jerrybme | I even tried removing the entire build enviroment & recreating, same result |
| 12:05.37 | hrw|work | jerrybme: tomorrow I will be able to run new build and test |
| 12:07.10 | jerrybme | are others building oz3.5.4.2rc2 gpe images that work? or is it just me? |
| 12:08.25 | hrw|work | jerrybme: florian built one yesterday |
| 12:08.58 | jerrybme | my local conf if anyone is interested: http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=213 |
| 12:10.03 | hrw|work | should be ok |
| 12:10.26 | Cwiiis | anyone know how to redirect both stderr and stdout to the same file with busybox? |
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| 12:10.50 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: 2>&1 >file |
| 12:10.57 | hrw|work | Cwiiis: should work |
| 12:11.30 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: It doesn't - it ignores the redirect of stderr to stdout |
| 12:12.01 | hrw|work | ;( |
| 12:12.04 | Cwiiis | ah, 1>file 2>&1 works though |
| 12:12.14 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 12:12.25 | hrw|work | brb |
| 12:13.12 | Cwiiis | hrw|work: I see on the list you're offering your services for oe paid support btw - good luck :) |
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| 12:16.14 | hrw|work | ~lart mtn again |
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| 12:22.44 | rob_w | sounds like good SD Card news .. |
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| 12:24.31 | hrw|work | rob_w: yes |
| 12:24.35 | hrw|work | hi Rene |
| 12:25.00 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 12:25.02 | zecke | reenoo: hey |
| 12:25.03 | reenoo | hey Marcin |
| 12:25.07 | hrw|work | rob_w: we have that patch in OZ kernels for long time |
| 12:25.13 | zecke | reenoo: how are you? |
| 12:27.54 | reenoo | zecke: hi! I'm fine although still working my way through the ~3000 messages that had accumulated in my inbox while I was on vacation. you? |
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| 12:33.58 | hrw|work | hi Liam |
| 12:34.09 | lrg | hey Marcin, all |
| 12:34.19 | XorA | hi Liam |
| 12:35.40 | lrg | XorA: 2 weeks to go |
| 12:36.00 | XorA | lrg: yes |
| 12:36.07 | XorA | lrg: Ive never been so busy here :-) |
| 12:36.40 | lrg | XorA: Dinner next week, I don't know the day yet. |
| 12:36.45 | XorA | lrg: ok |
| 12:37.03 | XorA | lrg: prefer some notice if its thursday so I can cancel |
| 12:37.03 | lrg | XorA: will find out by Thu/Fri. All free (inc beer) :) |
| 12:37.13 | XorA | lrg: cool, plenty of notice then |
| 12:37.42 | lrg | XorA: I'll ask around today, see if anyone knows... |
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| 12:47.40 | lrg | XorA: next Tues/Wed |
| 12:47.55 | XorA | lrg: sorted |
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| 13:47.24 | zecke | reenoo: I'm fine as well. |
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| 14:31.08 | joshin | Did an apples to apples test of Big vs Little Endian performance on the NSLU2. The BE NSLU took 100s to download a 871MB file to /dev/null while the LE one took 140s. Both running 2.6.17 kernels. |
| 14:33.10 | florian_kc | which version of bb do i want to use for .dev? |
| 14:33.28 | RP | florian_kc: I'd use 1.6.x |
| 14:33.37 | RP | joshin: Did you run any other benchmarks? |
| 14:34.01 | florian_kc | hrm... my 1.6.0 throws error messages |
| 14:34.04 | joshin | RP, not yet. Any suggestions? |
| 14:34.53 | RP | joshin: Not really. I was thinking of tests for things like graphics, raw processing power and memory access speed |
| 14:35.09 | XorA | RP: graphics? |
| 14:35.10 | joshin | RP, the NSLU has no graphics capabilities. |
| 14:35.24 | RP | right :) |
| 14:35.35 | XorA | see how fast that LED can flash :-) |
| 14:35.36 | RP | memory access speed might be a better way to put that :) |
| 14:35.39 | hrw|work | florian_kc: 1.6.1 works ok |
| 14:35.49 | RP | florian_kc: What kind of errors? |
| 14:35.54 | hrw|work | florian_kc: where 1.6.1 = svn bitbake-1.6 branch |
| 14:36.06 | RP | joshin: At present our test just proves the network interface driver might prefer big endian mode |
| 14:36.38 | florian_kc | ah well, looks like this is a different issue... |
| 14:36.52 | florian_kc | i just trued to build openzaurus-unstable for the 770 |
| 14:36.58 | joshin | Yup. Which is why I wanted to see if anyone had ideas for other tests. |
| 14:37.13 | hrw|work | uf... nearly 5h but finally monotone migrated |
| 14:37.48 | florian_kc | RP: that migth be related to your changes... "base_contains" is not defined. |
| 14:38.41 | florian_kc | RP: i guess OZ or the 770 machine config need some updates |
| 14:38.56 | RP | florian_kc: That does sound like my changes. Was this in .dev? |
| 14:39.09 | florian_kc | RP: yes |
| 14:39.38 | RP | florian_kc: base_contains is defined in base.bbclass :-/ |
| 14:40.03 | RP | florian_kc: Can you pastebin the full error? |
| 14:40.08 | florian_kc | sure |
| 14:42.53 | RP | There are several different ones... |
| 14:42.55 | RP | ~pastebin |
| 14:42.58 | ibot | somebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ (BROKEN AND SUCKING NUTS), or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or http://paste.lisp.org/ for the lisp/scheme nuts, or http://paste-it.net |
| 14:45.06 | joshin | It is kinda funny that the ~pastebin result from ibot is long enough to require a pastebin of its own |
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| 14:48.03 | joshin | Doing a series of "time cat /dev/mem > /dev/null" tests shows no significant differences between LE & BE both take 0.70-0.71s (32M) |
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| 14:49.20 | zecke | joshin: we share ibot :) |
| 14:49.27 | RP | joshin: That probably means its the network driver thats big endian sensitive :) |
| 14:49.42 | RP | joshin: That's a relief to those of us using LE ;-) |
| 14:49.45 | zecke | joshin: and we have started adding oe.pastebin.com and then everyone added theirs |
| 14:51.07 | RP | tim should make it channel dependent :) |
| 14:52.17 | joshin | RP, Yes. Though I have not found a CPU test program yet. I would expect CPU performance not have more than a couple % difference. I'm just finding it interesting since its been something I've wondered about for a while. |
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| 14:52.40 | RP | joshin: Ethernet is BE iirc |
| 14:53.59 | joshin | Most networking protocols are BE. |
| 14:54.59 | lrg | Most audio is LE |
| 14:55.43 | joshin | Since the NSLU2 doesn't have audio, I can't test that... |
| 14:55.57 | hrw|work | joshin: but it can have.. |
| 14:56.28 | joshin | I know. It is just not a test that I can do. |
| 14:56.38 | florian_kc | RP: http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/err.txt |
| 14:56.49 | joshin | And I don't have any idea if a BE openzaurus would run on my 5500. :) |
| 14:57.06 | hrw|work | joshin: could be interesting ;) |
| 14:57.45 | joshin | "Interesting" usually keeps me up at night. I like boring. :) |
| 15:03.23 | CosmicPenguin | sigh - sugar artwork is going to be a pita |
| 15:04.47 | CosmicPenguin | why is gnome so dang cross-compile unfriendly? |
| 15:08.34 | psokolovsky_ | Hi! |
| 15:09.08 | psokolovsky_ | zecke: I've found bug in do_package() handling. Any hints on which level this should be fixed? |
| 15:09.25 | zecke | psokolovsky_: which one? |
| 15:09.36 | mithro | anyone in the US here? |
| 15:09.54 | joshin | RP, It does look to be the ethernet driver. I did a "scp foo 127.0.0.1:/dev/null" where foo is a 7M text file in RAM disk and the results were pretty close. 16.8s for LE and 16.20 for BE (5 runs averaged) |
| 15:09.59 | joshin | mithro, sir yes sir |
| 15:10.08 | psokolovsky_ | zecke: It is error for a package name to appear twice in PACKAGES, leads to overwrite. need to catch, warn, and unique it. |
| 15:10.25 | zecke | psokolovsky_: ah okay |
| 15:10.48 | hrw|work | psokolovsky_: last time someone told that such PACKAGES are invalid and metadata should be rather fixed |
| 15:11.46 | mithro | i'm looking for somebody to ship high speed ADC's samples to who can them forward them to me |
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| 15:12.16 | sirfred | Hello |
| 15:12.17 | psokolovsky_ | hrw|work, I guess, but right now it's silently ignored. I'm ok to error, not warn on it ;-) |
| 15:12.17 | joshin | mithro, as long as there's no $ out of pocket for me, I could do that. |
| 15:12.38 | psokolovsky_ | zecke, so where that would be handled - in OE classes or in BB? |
| 15:13.44 | psokolovsky_ | well, there's already check ;-\ |
| 15:14.06 | zecke | psokolovsky_: I think the package bbclass should refuse to work |
| 15:15.04 | psokolovsky_ | zecke: ok |
| 15:15.26 | ade|desk | is pulling working for all atm ? |
| 15:15.46 | zecke | ade|desk: see mailing list |
| 15:15.49 | hrw|work | ade|desk: not for me |
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| 15:17.14 | ade|desk | zecke: rought date/time ? |
| 15:17.17 | ade|desk | -t |
| 15:17.44 | RP | florian_kc: An error like that usually means the quoting is wrong somewhere |
| 15:18.06 | RP | florian_kc: I'd look at task-base.bb and start commenting bits out - see if you can isolate the problem further |
| 15:19.08 | RP | psokolovsky_: Last time this was mentioned, I said the packages class should error on dulpicates :) |
| 15:20.00 | psokolovsky_ | RP: well, there's a duplicate check, but somehow it doesn't work. investigating |
| 15:20.04 | zecke | ade|desk: ignore me :) |
| 15:20.13 | zecke | ade|desk: it is not working for me as well |
| 15:20.20 | Laibsch | How do I create a bb file for something that is installed via setup.py? |
| 15:20.26 | ade|desk | zecke: ok sure np |
| 15:20.27 | Laibsch | What do I need to inherit? |
| 15:20.41 | psokolovsky_ | RP, zecke: any hints on deactivating BB cache freshness check? ;-) my first try didn't work |
| 15:20.47 | florian_kc | RP: ok |
| 15:21.03 | RP | florian_kc: It also might indicate a variable wasn't set |
| 15:21.31 | RP | psokolovsky_: lib/bb/cache.py ;-) |
| 15:21.34 | hrw|work | Laibsch: distutils iirc |
| 15:21.42 | hrw|work | Laibsch: look at packages/python/*.bb |
| 15:21.42 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Thanks. |
| 15:21.47 | Laibsch | OK |
| 15:22.07 | RP | psokolovsky_: Test with bitbake -b instead though, then it will reparse :) |
| 15:22.28 | psokolovsky_ | RP: oh, right ;-) |
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| 15:22.38 | flux | hello |
| 15:23.12 | flux | i'm following the doc : http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch03s02 in order to get oe ; but when i do : |
| 15:23.51 | flux | mtn --mtn=OE.mtn co -b org.openembedded.dev .... it tells me : mtn: mauvais usage : unknown option mtn |
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| 15:24.21 | flux | i checked the man, but i'm not sure which option i should put to replace "--mtn" |
| 15:24.49 | hrw|work | flux: mtn --db |
| 15:25.01 | flux | ok :) |
| 15:25.14 | ade|desk | and the server is not responding atm |
| 15:25.26 | ade|desk | so no pulls |
| 15:28.58 | flux | ok |
| 15:29.22 | psokolovsky_ | RP, hrw|work: Well, python can be unsafe. "pkgs += pkg". Just you wonder, what will be in pkgs if pkg is string? ;-) |
| 15:30.25 | psokolovsky_ | zecke: ^ |
| 15:32.04 | RP | psokolovsky_: I've seen this kind of issue before :) |
| 15:32.12 | psokolovsky_ | lol |
| 15:32.38 | psokolovsky_ | RP, hrw|work, zecke: So, are you ok to make this fatal? So far, it spews error, but continues. |
| 15:33.17 | RP | psokolovsky_: That's fine with me |
| 15:33.49 | hrw|work | psokolovsky_: ok with it |
| 15:36.49 | RP | We should probably have some kind of exception to raise in these cases so bitbake in "no abort" mode doesn't get bothered by them |
| 15:38.59 | psokolovsky_ | RP, hrw|work: well, yes, on a second thought, that may be just too tough on users who may have no idea how to fix that. Let's start with error for now, fixing metadata is our task, not theirs. |
| 15:40.16 | CosmicPenguin | something is pulling in diet-x11, and I don't know what! |
| 15:41.04 | RP | psokolovsky_: Ideally, we error out and let bitbake decide what to do. From that PoV, OE should never call fatal. Perhaps we should change the behaviour of fatal for outside callers?... |
| 15:41.27 | hrw|work | CosmicPenguin: python? |
| 15:41.54 | RP | CosmicPenguin: Suggestions on how to make bitbakes depdenceny tree readable welcome :) |
| 15:42.00 | CosmicPenguin | hrw|work: no, its something in the chain of libmatchbox |
| 15:42.08 | ade|desk | CosmicPenguin: want real X11 or just don't want the X at all |
| 15:42.13 | psokolovsky_ | RP: yes, I guess. a separate task to consider though |
| 15:42.19 | XorA | CosmicPenguin: rm diet-x11.bb then see what .bb bitbake refuses to build |
| 15:42.31 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 15:42.41 | XorA | CosmicPenguin: that how I solve those problems |
| 15:42.49 | RP | zecke: How do you think we should handle fatal? |
| 15:45.16 | CosmicPenguin | XorA: heh - annoyingly, nothing is complaining.. :) |
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| 15:45.38 | RP | CosmicPenguin: It used full x11 instead? |
| 15:45.45 | CosmicPenguin | looks like it is |
| 15:47.44 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 16:01.22 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r35850347... 10/ (1 classes/package.bbclass): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:01.22 | CIA-9 | package.bbclass: Detect duplicates in PACKAGES properly. |
| 16:01.22 | CIA-9 | * Fix bug which caused non-detection. |
| 16:01.22 | CIA-9 | * Make visible error message for such condition. |
| 16:01.22 | CIA-9 | * But still recover and continue for now, while we don't |
| 16:01.23 | CIA-9 | have all occurances fixed in metadata. Note that while |
| 16:01.25 | CIA-9 | content of the package will be ok, metadata can be wrong. |
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| 16:05.16 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r3e2ce2d7... 10/ (1 packages/ntp/ntp_4.2.0.bb): |
| 16:05.16 | CIA-9 | ntp 4.2.0: If we use += for PACKAGES, ntp is already there, don't add it twice. |
| 16:05.16 | CIA-9 | * Fixes #1413. |
| 16:05.17 | CosmicPenguin | screw this |
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| 16:24.00 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 16:24.05 | CosmicPenguin | I got toys |
| 16:24.09 | CosmicPenguin | no time for OE |
| 16:27.35 | chouimat | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 16:30.23 | ade|desk | toys are good |
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| 16:58.37 | ade|desk | yay mtn is back up and running |
| 16:59.03 | ade|desk | wow off for a weekend and 348 revs to pull |
| 16:59.34 | ade|desk | oh well time for home , cya all |
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| 17:03.54 | Laibsch | OE is currently building python-native for me. Is that really necessary since I have the ubuntu python packages installed? Can I tell OE not to build certain native packages. |
| 17:04.14 | hrw|work | add them to ASSUME_PROVIDED and pray |
| 17:04.25 | polyonymous | the latter is the most important :) |
| 17:06.54 | polyonymous | I've bought usb nic which was claimed to be supproted by linux, but neither Z, neigher desktop seem to load any modules... What I may be missing? The device is ID 0a46:9601 Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. |
| 17:07.34 | hrw|work | monotone-viz + OE.mtn = hardcore |
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| 17:09.31 | Laibsch | hrw|work: Thanks. I was thinking that it was ASSUME_PROVIDED. But the description in conf/local.conf left me thinking this was something else. |
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| 17:12.57 | hrw|work | I go home |
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| 18:01.56 | koen | hrw|gone: congrats on the new biz |
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| 18:11.49 | cyrilRomain | 'evening all |
| 18:11.55 | koen | I wonder how people so high up in the CELF tree can be so clueless |
| 18:11.59 | koen | hey cyrilRomain |
| 18:12.19 | kergoth | clueless? in what way? |
| 18:12.39 | koen | 'python without x11' |
| 18:12.42 | kergoth | Laibsch: remember that the target python package will require the same version of python in native, so make sure you have that version on your system |
| 18:12.56 | kergoth | (iirc) |
| 18:13.00 | koen | the python *package* has never depended on x11 |
| 18:13.09 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:13.34 | koen | only the python-gtk2, python-tkinter and friend depend on x11 |
| 18:13.47 | kergoth | wonder what he's talking about then |
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| 18:14.06 | koen | kergoth: 'bitbake python' will build x11 for python-tkinter |
| 18:14.12 | koen | lots off people get lost there |
| 18:14.16 | dent_ | hi |
| 18:14.22 | koen | and we explain that ~weekly on the mailinglist |
| 18:14.28 | dent_ | anyone can help with building ld? |
| 18:14.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:14.55 | dent_ | the errori get is: ld: cannot represent machine `arm:mymachine` |
| 18:15.08 | koen | that's why I said 'clueless', since it was explained ~yesterday :) |
| 18:15.22 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 18:15.44 | koen | so I just posted a link to the python package in angstrom showing no depends on x11 |
| 18:16.04 | kergoth | good luck :) |
| 18:16.25 | koen | but it's good to see the CELF people trying to communicate again |
| 18:17.06 | koen | we were a bit surprised to have CosmicPenguin tell us that they demoed Cool Stuff(TM) at their conference last year |
| 18:17.53 | kergoth | celf demoed cool stuff? |
| 18:17.56 | CosmicPenguin | as far as I know, Matthew Locke is running OE built images in their test lab |
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| 18:18.26 | CosmicPenguin | He presented a whole lot of interesting stuff - like web triggered builds |
| 18:18.49 | koen | yeah |
| 18:18.51 | [ich] | hey |
| 18:19.05 | CosmicPenguin | unfortunately, his presentation isn't posted on the CELF website |
| 18:19.16 | koen | I watched the video |
| 18:19.25 | CosmicPenguin | oh yeah - it had a video |
| 18:19.26 | CosmicPenguin | thats right |
| 18:19.34 | koen | my thought were "turn those *(#*%(#(%#%(*%(* cellphones off" |
| 18:22.36 | koen | CosmicPenguin: vanilla OE has pretty nice support for all that webstuff |
| 18:22.58 | koen | CosmicPenguin: it's just missing a php page that does system("bitbake foo") |
| 18:23.46 | koen | but I hope they hire OE people to get a clue :) |
| 18:24.57 | Crofton | If I set my distro to angstrom, I can still build minimal images with no display support? |
| 18:25.15 | koen | sure |
| 18:25.31 | koen | that's not a distro thing |
| 18:25.32 | Crofton | I think this is what I want to do ... |
| 18:25.33 | Crofton | yeah |
| 18:25.58 | Crofton | I just need to learn how to write the bb file for "bitbake ossie-sdr" |
| 18:26.00 | koen | 'bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image' is probablly what you want |
| 18:26.18 | koen | Crofton: take a peak in packages/angstrom/ |
| 18:26.22 | Crofton | I need to work on some other stuff for a few weeks |
| 18:26.26 | koen | that defines some tasks and images |
| 18:26.29 | Crofton | ok |
| 18:26.50 | Crofton | I think I have been copying stuff from the angstrom distro file anyway ... |
| 18:26.51 | zecke | having some money for a good tinderbox would be nice :} |
| 18:27.18 | koen | yep |
| 18:27.31 | koen | I have some suggestions for OEDEM :) |
| 18:28.14 | koen | zecke: google fed-ex'ed the final cheque, some of that could be spent on tinderboxen |
| 18:28.27 | zecke | keep your money |
| 18:28.49 | koen | zecke: and if OE becomes a proper SoC org next year.... |
| 18:29.57 | Crofton | what is a proper SoC org? |
| 18:32.28 | koen | Crofton: google summer of code org |
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| 18:32.55 | Crofton | yeah |
| 18:32.57 | kergoth | i keep thinking system-on-chip when i read that |
| 18:33.01 | kergoth | it throws me off |
| 18:33.03 | Crofton | but what would make oe proper? |
| 18:33.14 | Crofton | I am procrstinating ..... |
| 18:33.31 | koen | Crofton: by registering it, instead of clinging on to hh.org |
| 18:33.34 | zecke | kergoth: your are not that far off. They have hired old Alpha engineers |
| 18:33.39 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 18:37.56 | florian | re |
| 18:40.21 | zecke | need to sync my home image |
| 18:40.23 | zecke | later |
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| 18:45.48 | Laibsch | kergoth: Thanks for the hint. I guess I will rather bite the bullet and wait a little longer and spend less time figuring out why things go haywire .-) |
| 18:46.14 | Laibsch | s/a litte longer/a little longer compiling/ |
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| 19:56.35 | CIA-9 | 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * re7d24f7f... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): udev-097,100: firmware_helper is now firmware.sh - fix udev.rules |
| 19:57.52 | [ich] | ljp: hey, Qtopia GPL download is still 2.2 |
| 19:58.08 | zecke | ljp: hey, Qtopia GPL download is still 2.2 |
| 19:59.30 | do13 | zecke: do you found http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5201088922.html ? |
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| 20:02.33 | koen | that looks like a exploit-rich overpriced mvista-ism |
| 20:03.21 | do13 | hehe |
| 20:04.45 | koen | I wonder how long it takes till OE supports it and some OE dev will port it to 2.6.recent |
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| 20:05.24 | chouimat | koen depend on how many of "US" get the phone :) I'm currently low on cash :) |
| 20:05.27 | pH5 | udev_097-r2_ipaq-pxa270.ipk ?? |
| 20:05.44 | do13 | Hmm 695$ |
| 20:05.44 | pH5 | I wonder where that ipaq-pxa270 comes from. |
| 20:05.57 | chouimat | exactly :) |
| 20:05.59 | koen | pH5: ah, right I think SRC_URI containts machine-isms |
| 20:06.10 | florian | chouimat: get a cheaper Motorola phone |
| 20:06.26 | koen | chouimat: isn't TT into the community like nokia and giving them away to devs? |
| 20:06.52 | do13 | koen: yes see the community version for 695$ |
| 20:06.56 | chouimat | florian: I'm currently have no need for a cell phone ... since I'm always working from home :) tht might change too |
| 20:07.02 | pH5 | koen: only for h2200 |
| 20:07.15 | koen | pH5: I thing that upsets OE :( |
| 20:07.33 | koen | pH5: and also highlight a huge missing piece in OE/ipkg |
| 20:08.14 | florian | I was quite annoyed when i found out that Motorola seems to be the only phone manufacturer caring about the GPL. |
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| 20:08.54 | do13 | koen: here is the community version: http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/phone_edition/greenphone/greenphone_pricing |
| 20:10.22 | chouimat | ljp: where is the download? |
| 20:11.00 | koen | so I actually have to pay TT $200 for being able to fix known exploits? |
| 20:12.10 | chouimat | koen I think it's better we wait a little more :) |
| 20:12.55 | chouimat | koen you have the community edition for gpl developer at 695 |
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| 20:14.46 | do13 | Greenphone Community SDK Components: -License to develop open source software :) |
| 20:15.03 | koen | ain't that great? |
| 20:15.09 | koen | oh dear |
| 20:15.18 | koen | I guess we should stop developing now |
| 20:15.26 | koen | It seems we need to buy a license |
| 20:16.03 | chouimat | koen then license is free (GPL app only) the phone is 695 |
| 20:20.32 | florian | <:-) |
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| 20:31.42 | cyrilRomain | zecke: using a patched content_checker I get a strange error on the apt-package.inc: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RN95zN58.html any idea ? |
| 20:33.06 | zecke | chouimat: no download |
| 20:33.15 | zecke | chouimat: download refers to Qtopia2.2 |
| 20:33.47 | zecke | cyrilRomain: I'm off to bed now |
| 20:34.12 | cyrilRomain | zecke: ok np, I'll investigate a bit latter |
| 20:34.15 | zecke | koen|away: at least one needs to buy a license and then hope we can redistribute the proprietary bits.. |
| 20:34.38 | psokolovsky_ | cyrilRomain: hi, that's re[gexp] module exception, it didn't match what it expected |
| 20:36.04 | chouimat | zecke: which mean I will wait and see :) |
| 20:36.39 | chouimat | later |
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| 20:37.11 | zecke | cyrilRomain: it is likely the fetcher and SRC_URI do not like each othe |
| 20:37.13 | zecke | r |
| 20:41.01 | cyrilRomain | zecke: ? I'm afraid not to catch your mind |
| 20:41.57 | pH5 | how is SRC_URI_OVERRIDES_PACKAGE_ARCH supposed to work? |
| 20:42.11 | cyrilRomain | zecke: do you think SRC_URI interpolation fail ? |
| 20:42.31 | pH5 | I don't see why udev's PACKAGE_ARCH gets overwritten by MACHINE_ARCH |
| 20:45.22 | kergoth | pH5: if its SRC_URI is manipulated in a machine specific manner, then, obviously, the package would be bound to the machine rather than the architecture.. if thats what you're asking |
| 20:45.49 | zecke | cyrilRomain: well, a regexp is failing |
| 20:46.03 | zecke | cyrilRomain: so it is likely a) you altered a fetcher b) a SRC_URI is wrong |
| 20:46.27 | cyrilRomain | zecke: does bittest handle BBMASK ? |
| 20:46.51 | zecke | maybe :) |
| 20:47.02 | zecke | check lib/bittest/fileparser.py |
| 20:47.07 | zecke | anyway I'm in bed now |
| 20:47.13 | zecke | check if the SRC_URI is wrong |
| 20:47.15 | zecke | later |
| 20:47.16 | cyrilRomain | zecke: ok thanks, 'night |
| 20:49.42 | CosmicPenguin | Just the shear number of packages needed to do anything in GUI land these days is impressive |
| 20:51.33 | mickeyl | Laibsch: FYI, you can't get away without building python-native. It contains important patches to stock python to make it cross compile python modules. Your native python won't be able to do that. |
| 20:51.36 | pH5 | kergoth: it's just that the only SRC_URI modification in udev is for h2200, and even when I remove everything containing _h2200, bitbake still builds an _ipaq-pxa270 package |
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| 20:54.53 | Laibsch | mickeyl: Thanks for the info. |
| 20:55.00 | mickeyl | np |
| 20:55.18 | mickeyl | this is actually the case for more than one -native package in OE |
| 20:57.47 | kergoth | pH5: ah, thats odd indeed |
| 20:58.06 | pH5 | kergoth: oh, now I understand. somebody added an ipaq-pxa270 specific version of mount.blacklist. |
| 20:58.24 | psokolovsky_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.36 | kergoth | aha |
| 20:59.19 | pH5 | I don't like those machine specific mount.blacklist files. |
| 20:59.19 | mickeyl | | bing.c:155:28: error: netinet/ip_var.h: File not found |
| 20:59.26 | mickeyl | ~curse programs using obscure headers |
| 20:59.27 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, programs using obscure headers ! |
| 21:02.08 | pH5 | psokolovsky_: agreed. how is this hostap rule h2200 specific anyway? |
| 21:03.59 | psokolovsky_ | pH5, well, I mean't q mark at the end really, not push for that. But IMHO, such rules are not really machine specific. So, either workarounds like that would be needed for others too, or should be treated like they are - hacks, and probably go into separate package and RDEPENDed by specific machines. |
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| 21:11.59 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r83d0e48a... 10/ (1 packages/bing packages/bing/bing_1.1.3.bb): add bing, a console network performance measurement utility |
| 21:17.10 | cyrilRomain | hum, another getVar issue: http://rafb.net/paste/results/bgVT9M53.html Maybe in such case we simply can't check the bb file content... |
| 21:17.44 | cyrilRomain | I mean without using bitbake and building stuff |
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| 21:28.40 | cyrilRomain | hey v8jlene |
| 21:29.53 | v8jlene | Morning |
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| 21:37.55 | v8jlene | cyrilRomain: I'll submit your update now "Fix a hang when processing comment block and fix some erroneous for loop usage." - does that sound right? |
| 21:38.51 | cyrilRomain | v8jlene: sure :) |
| 21:41.55 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Do you remember http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188 ? |
| 21:42.06 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: The proposed patch fixed the compile for me. |
| 21:42.09 | CIA-9 | 03cyril.romain 07org.oe.dev * r22712c86... 10/ (1 contrib/sanitize.py): |
| 21:42.09 | CIA-9 | contrib/sanitize.py: Fix a hang when processing comment block and fix some |
| 21:42.09 | CIA-9 | erroneous for loop usage. |
| 21:42.37 | cyrilRomain | thanks v8jlene |
| 21:42.41 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: The trick even works for opie-qcop |
| 21:44.09 | v8jlene | cyrilRomain: No problem. Good work on it. It makes it a lot easier to get things consistent! And saves my having to think about how to order things ;) |
| 21:44.35 | v8jlene | If only I didn't have to think about libtool and autoconf ;( |
| 21:45.22 | cyrilRomain | ;) |
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| 21:51.31 | cyrilRomain | hum... I will simply catch exceptions and return "Exception processing the %s file" |
| 21:52.22 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: yes, i remember. i'm still not convinced though why this is necessary |
| 21:52.27 | mickeyl | it works, of course |
| 21:52.33 | mickeyl | but i want to know why |
| 21:52.43 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 21:53.36 | mickeyl | then again, since I really don't care that much about Opie, I might just apply it |
| 21:53.45 | mickeyl | (nowadays) |
| 21:55.26 | cyrilRomain | does anyone want to be part of a test of the 'get-inform-by-mail' feature of bittest content checker ? mickeyl ? |
| 21:55.39 | cyrilRomain | s/inform/informed/ |
| 21:55.58 | mickeyl | cyrilRomain: might as well add a new mailing list for that, don't you think? |
| 21:56.22 | cyrilRomain | mickeyl: yes, just want to test it first |
| 21:56.36 | mickeyl | cyrilRomain: ok, feel free to add mickeyl@linuxtogo.org for a test |
| 21:57.01 | cyrilRomain | mickeyl: ok, which package e.g. do you want to check ? |
| 21:57.31 | mickeyl | qt3, qt4 |
| 21:57.48 | cyrilRomain | ok, let's go |
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| 22:03.16 | cyrilRomain | mickeyl: you should have received three mails |
| 22:03.34 | mickeyl | cyrilRomain: yep, they're there |
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| 22:05.43 | JustinP | v8jlene: so are you manually changing the author cert for thos commits? |
| 22:08.47 | v8jlene | JustinP: Yeah. Using --author to mt commit. Someone pointed this out and asked people to use it when committing someone elses work a while back. |
| 22:09.16 | psokolovsky_ | mickeyl: At your convenience, can you also review http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1389 ? |
| 22:10.48 | mickeyl | psokolovsky_: oh that's a neat idea. |
| 22:10.51 | mickeyl | i like that patch |
| 22:11.00 | mickeyl | gets my 'go' |
| 22:11.12 | psokolovsky_ | mickeyl: Ok, thanks! |
| 22:14.44 | JustinP | v8jlene: ah, yep, good idea. I'd noticed strange commits (aith author name capitalized) and was wondering what that was, then saw commits from cyril when he doesn' thave an account. ;-) I looked at the certs and was just curious as to hwo it was done. |
| 22:15.13 | JustinP | ~typo |
| 22:15.16 | ibot | [typo] when someone tries to type really fast without knowing what he is actually doing.... so he makes typing mistakes, or rm -rf / |
| 22:16.08 | JustinP | ibot: typoKing is JustinP |
| 22:16.09 | ibot | okay, JustinP |
| 22:16.13 | JustinP | ~typoKing |
| 22:16.15 | ibot | somebody said typoking was JustinP |
| 22:16.20 | JustinP | &_& |
| 22:16.35 | JustinP | lol....interesting typo there |
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| 22:19.29 | v8jlene | JustinP: Seems like it would be a good idea if mt log also showed who actually commited the work... I guess it must know internally for the signing and stuff but just not show it. |
| 22:21.57 | psokolovsky_ | JustinP: yes, it appears that OE accounts are email-based (though ones @oe.org are virtual ;-) ), and it's nice idea to use email for --author=, not just first name or something |
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| 22:32.09 | JustinP | psokolovsky_: well...they're account names, not e-mail. The oe.org ones don't work at all. Would be nice if they would forward (like php.net) |
| 22:34.27 | psokolovsky_ | JustinP: Yes, at least they look like emails ;-). And for people w/o accounts, using emails is at least look-consistent (plus, they can be reached by it in case of questions). Of course, there's spam problem, but contributors should be ready to leave their coordinates... Anyway, just my 2 cents |
| 22:34.31 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 22:39.38 | florian | good night |
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| 22:47.24 | NAiL | is there a variable I can use to use the host system compiler? |
| 22:47.41 | NAiL | (ie, instead of ${CC}, is there a ${HOSTCC}?) |
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| 22:48.41 | CIA-9 | 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r5db3d555... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-9 | base.bbclass(oe_libinstall): Handle shared libs basenames of which were |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-9 | suffixed with version properly. |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-9 | * Sometimes soname of a shlib is overriden to contain extra version. If |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-9 | it's build by libtool, .la still has basename w/o suffix. This fix recognizes |
| 22:48.41 | CIA-9 | such case, and handles shlib installation properly (via libtool). |
| 22:48.45 | CIA-9 | * Example of this is smpeg_0.4.4+0.4.5cvs20040311 which builds libsmpeg-0.4, |
| 22:58.34 | CIA-9 | 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r1ba97399... 10/ (1 packages/ixp4xx/ixp4xx-npe_0.1.bb): ixp4xx-npe: Add initial microcode compiler stuff |
| 23:03.16 | Crofton | ~lart busybox |
| 23:04.02 | RP | I want to rip mount.blacklist out of udev. It irrirates me no end :-/ |
| 23:04.58 | RP | 'night all |
| 23:06.16 | kergoth | NAiL: see the BUILD_ variables |
| 23:06.48 | NAiL | inherit native did what I needed ;) |
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| 23:54.09 | CosmicPenguin | http://sourceware.org/ml/systemtap/2006-q3/msg00479.html |
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