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| 06:58.31 | Genesis | salut ! hello |
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| 07:54.07 | XorA | morning |
| 07:55.36 | hrw|work | morning |
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| 07:59.51 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:01.05 | XorA | hey koen hrw|work |
| 08:01.38 | hrw|work | my home machine drives me mad |
| 08:05.26 | hrw|work | 46°C inside of case == machine unable to use for >30minut in the evening ;( |
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| 08:09.19 | XorA | hrw|work: an amd? |
| 08:10.34 | hrw|work | http://julien.danjou.info/blog/index.php/2006/08/01/312-etch-song |
| 08:10.46 | hrw|work | XorA: athlonxp 2200+ (1.8GHz) to be exact |
| 08:10.55 | hrw|work | XorA: cpu has up to 60°C |
| 08:11.03 | XorA | ~lart amd for not being ntelligent like Intel with P4 |
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| 08:11.29 | koen | hey mikearthur |
| 08:11.42 | mikearthur | morning koen |
| 08:11.43 | XorA | hrw|work: my CPU reaches 60 sometimes, though its broken fan control in linux that causes it |
| 08:11.49 | XorA | :-( |
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| 08:20.23 | XorA | ~lart fancontrol n linux |
| 08:21.10 | XorA | so does this summary stuff just make first mount faster, or all mounts? |
| 08:23.46 | hrw|work | all |
| 08:29.17 | XorA | is that 10M added to the image real? |
| 08:30.30 | koen | XorA: yes |
| 08:30.33 | koen | that's the catch |
| 08:31.02 | koen | so if you say "screw boottime", just use the regular jffs2 |
| 08:31.27 | koen | but if you are a former wince user that reboots every hour -> summary |
| 08:31.46 | ArjanS | hrw|work: SRC_URI_append_h1940 doesn't work :( |
| 08:32.18 | XorA | koen: ouch |
| 08:32.42 | XorA | koen: although my wince machine gets rebooted about as often as my Z |
| 08:33.04 | koen | XorA: I expect to see improvements real soon(TM) since the OLPC ships with half a gig of NAND |
| 08:33.33 | XorA | koen: heh heh |
| 08:34.13 | koen | http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers%27_program <- devboards |
| 08:35.19 | hrw|work | ArjanS: look at packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.17.bb |
| 08:35.38 | koen | hrw|work: how's your monotone migration coming along? |
| 08:36.56 | hrw|work | koen: going ok, pushed first things |
| 08:38.50 | XorA | a nekkid chick has just stood in the window across street from my office, score :-) |
| 08:41.40 | ArjanS | hrw|work: ah great, thank you! I didn't know I needed an extra backslash :) |
| 08:42.26 | XorA | I wish Z had half a gig of NAND |
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| 08:49.58 | XorA | hey mallum |
| 08:51.09 | mallum | hey XorA |
| 08:59.08 | koen | hey mallum |
| 08:59.17 | mallum | hey ko |
| 08:59.19 | mallum | en |
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| 09:04.43 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:05.42 | XorA | hey florian_kc |
| 09:05.43 | Genesis | yo florian_kc |
| 09:06.48 | koen | god |
| 09:06.50 | koen | svn sucks |
| 09:07.06 | koen | it can't do 'svn add --unknown' |
| 09:07.25 | XorA | koen: oooh, controversial opinion :-) |
| 09:08.19 | XorA | now all the gtk+ experts are around, is it gtk+ 2.10.X that is causing a massive slowdown on application load on my device. Or are the performance problems in gtk+ in the widget rendering? |
| 09:08.22 | Genesis | i try to debug a framebuffer driver , what are your favorites test to do that ? |
| 09:08.37 | koen | XorA: pangoft |
| 09:08.54 | XorA | koen: so pango is taking a LONG time to initialise |
| 09:08.55 | XorA | ? |
| 09:09.15 | koen | XorA: no pango has lots of floats and does those per char iirc |
| 09:09.45 | XorA | koen: ok, so I wonder why suddenly my device is working like a win3.11 machine on a novell network |
| 09:09.52 | koen | XorA: o-hand has been busy profiling gtk+ and making pretty graphs |
| 09:10.04 | XorA | koen: I was readng the mailing list yesterday |
| 09:10.24 | florian_kc | XorA: compared to which other gtk version? |
| 09:10.32 | XorA | florian_kc: 2.8 |
| 09:10.46 | XorA | 2.8.9 sorry |
| 09:11.25 | florian_kc | unlikely imho... compared to 2.6 maybe but i don't think that much has changed from 2.8 to 2.10 |
| 09:11.44 | koen | XorA: svn checkout svn://projects.linuxtogo.org/svn/openembedded |
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| 09:11.56 | XorA | florian_kc: ok, I am looking for something else to blame then |
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| 09:13.29 | florian_kc | XorA: :-) |
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| 09:14.03 | mallum | XorA: basically lots of performance rendering issues in > GTK+ 2.6 |
| 09:14.36 | koen | we could apply all those 'no-cairo' patches |
| 09:14.40 | XorA | mallum: cool, this is what I thought, I am working on elimination |
| 09:16.07 | mallum | koen: the no cairo packages are in poky if you want to grab which help a bit |
| 09:17.54 | koen | XorA: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky?rev=519&view=rev <- try those |
| 09:18.39 | mikearthur | I'm building from the current openzaurus-3.5.4.1 |
| 09:18.51 | mallum | jorn is gonna hack some fixed stuff when he is back from hols |
| 09:19.03 | mikearthur | just thought someone would know that xext-0.0cvs20060102: failed badly |
| 09:22.33 | koen | mallum: how does +#ifdef USE_CAIRO_INTERNALLY get selected? |
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| 09:25.09 | mallum | koen: I dont think it is :/ |
| 09:25.22 | mallum | koen: Im not sure how jorn was building those |
| 09:25.37 | koen | mallum: the .bb doesn't mention it |
| 09:25.52 | kergoth | hrm |
| 09:26.26 | hrw|work | kergoth: hi |
| 09:26.36 | hrw|work | ~nslookup feeds.openzaurus.org |
| 09:26.43 | hrw|work | ;( |
| 09:29.18 | kergoth | er, forgot about it |
| 09:29.21 | kergoth | i need periodic pestering |
| 09:29.37 | kergoth | couldve sworn i added that |
| 09:30.02 | koen | kergoth: iirc mickeyl needed some OE dns changes as well :) |
| 09:30.08 | koen | dunno if he asked you yet |
| 09:30.29 | hrw|work | echo 'echo "remember about CNAME"|mail kergoth'>>crontab |
| 09:30.33 | kergoth | have him email me, dont think i've seen anything from him |
| 09:30.34 | kergoth | hahah |
| 09:31.13 | hrw|work | ops.. forgot about header... '13 * * * *' :D |
| 09:31.47 | kergoth | :) |
| 09:32.42 | hrw|work | the one risk is that I could end in blacklist/spam folder |
| 09:33.39 | mikearthur | .libs/libXext_la-DPMS.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized |
| 09:33.43 | mikearthur | that is a wierd error |
| 09:33.44 | mikearthur | any ideas? |
| 09:36.03 | koen | I'd fling poo at libtool |
| 09:36.35 | mikearthur | mike@steyraug ~/oe $ libtool < poo |
| 09:36.35 | mikearthur | bash: poo: No such file or directory |
| 09:36.40 | mikearthur | didn't work |
| 09:37.57 | koen | heh |
| 09:38.21 | koen | hecklerundkoch was too long for a hostname? |
| 09:38.27 | mikearthur | any non-poo related ideas? |
| 09:38.28 | mikearthur | mike@steyraug ~/oe $ libtool < poo |
| 09:38.28 | mikearthur | bash: poo: No such file or directory |
| 09:38.31 | mikearthur | woops, sorrt |
| 09:38.36 | mikearthur | sorry |
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| 09:40.37 | mikearthur | morning liam |
| 09:40.46 | lrg | morning mike, all |
| 09:41.15 | koen | hey lrg |
| 09:42.59 | XorA | hey liam |
| 09:44.04 | koen | cute, the new mindstorms is an arm7 |
| 09:49.40 | XorA | koen: arse, the massive slowdown is ph5's change to fontconfig |
| 09:50.12 | koen | XorA: the one that stops the crashes? |
| 09:50.18 | XorA | koen: yes |
| 09:50.28 | XorA | koen: it must run round that loop longer than it used to |
| 09:50.40 | koen | arse |
| 09:54.54 | mikearthur | koen: no ideas? |
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| 09:55.12 | blop | hi |
| 09:55.35 | koen | mikearthur: nope, try asking OZ master hrw|work |
| 09:55.44 | mikearthur | hrw|work: ping |
| 09:56.58 | hrw|work | pong mikearthur |
| 09:58.56 | mikearthur | .libs/libXext_la-DPMS.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized |
| 09:59.28 | hrw|work | mikearthur: ? |
| 09:59.32 | mikearthur | on compilingsorry |
| 09:59.36 | mikearthur | on compiling |
| 09:59.48 | mikearthur | xext-0.0cvs20060102 |
| 10:00.17 | mikearthur | returned by ld |
| 10:00.59 | hrw|work | mikearthur: if you want to say something to someone on irc you have to prepend sentence with nick of target person - otherwise you are talking to all |
| 10:01.09 | mikearthur | ok, sorry |
| 10:01.29 | mikearthur | hrw|work: ok, sorry, will in future :) |
| 10:01.29 | hrw|work | mikearthur: I currently have 16 windows in irc client open so its hard to follow without that |
| 10:01.44 | mikearthur | hrw|work: fair enough, sorry! |
| 10:02.32 | mikearthur | hrw|work: any ideas would be welcome |
| 10:02.43 | hrw|work | mikearthur: no idea |
| 10:02.50 | mikearthur | sucks |
| 10:03.09 | hrw|work | and few days will pass before I will find time to do any builds |
| 10:03.14 | mikearthur | no worries |
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| 10:03.37 | mikearthur | hrw|work: rebuilding libtool-native |
| 10:03.40 | lrg | mikearthur: do an objdump on the file |
| 10:03.48 | mikearthur | lrg: ok |
| 10:07.48 | mikearthur | lrg: I'm relatively unfamiliar with objdump, what should I be looking for? |
| 10:09.21 | lrg | mikearthur: objdump will tell you if you have something that is at least valid (for a .o file) |
| 10:09.33 | lrg | mikearthur: also try 'file' |
| 10:09.47 | mikearthur | file just says data |
| 10:09.59 | mikearthur | and objdump -x looks very wierd |
| 10:10.14 | mikearthur | lrg: memory allocations are all 0 :s |
| 10:10.28 | mikearthur | lrg: and unknown arch and the like |
| 10:11.21 | lrg | mikearthur: file should say ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, ..... and not data |
| 10:11.33 | mikearthur | lrg: I suspected as much |
| 10:12.32 | lrg | mikearthur: although, does the _la not mean something to libtool ? |
| 10:14.04 | mikearthur | lrg: no idea |
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| 10:42.57 | mikearthur | hrw|work: what version of X does openzaurus .oz354 use? |
| 10:46.38 | hrw|work | mikearthur: kdrive 0.0cvs20050207 |
| 10:51.25 | mikearthur | hrw|work: should I try a version of libext from the .dev branch? |
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| 10:52.33 | do13_ | morning all |
| 10:52.40 | koen | hey Dirk |
| 10:52.41 | mikearthur | morninge do13_ |
| 10:52.48 | hrw|work | hi dirk |
| 10:52.56 | do13_ | hey koen, mikearthur, Marcin |
| 10:53.08 | mikearthur | do13_ got a question for you already :D |
| 10:53.30 | do13_ | mikearthur: ok |
| 10:54.04 | do13_ | mikearthur: which? |
| 10:54.28 | mikearthur | do13_: .libs/libXext_la-DPMS.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized on compiling xext-0.0cvs20060102-r1? |
| 10:55.07 | do13_ | uff. tosa from .oz354x? |
| 10:58.22 | XorA | ~lart tao ntent |
| 11:00.51 | lrg | hey Dirk |
| 11:01.29 | do13_ | hey Liam |
| 11:05.00 | do13_ | mikearthur: are you building gpe-image for tosa from .oz354x branch with distro=oz-3.5.4.1? |
| 11:05.13 | mikearthur | do13_: exactly |
| 11:06.34 | do13_ | and it breaks on xext_cvs.bb? |
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| 11:13.13 | do13_ | mikearthur: file Xext/.libs/libXext_la-DPMS.o: |
| 11:13.21 | do13_ | Xext/.libs/libXext_la-DPMS.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (ARM), not stripped |
| 11:13.35 | do13_ | can't reproduce your prob |
| 11:14.39 | mikearthur | do13_: sucks |
| 11:14.44 | mikearthur | gcc -v? |
| 11:15.02 | mikearthur | do13_: I'm on gcc version 4.0.3 |
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| 11:16.01 | do13_ | gcc-Version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5) here |
| 11:16.12 | mikearthur | wierd |
| 11:16.16 | woglinde | *g* |
| 11:16.18 | mikearthur | I guess another rebuild may be in order :s |
| 11:16.35 | woglinde | ubuntu is an african word for "can't configure debian" *g* |
| 11:16.44 | do13_ | :) |
| 11:16.58 | mikearthur | woglinde: or have better things to do that configure debian :p |
| 11:17.20 | do13_ | good point |
| 11:17.49 | mikearthur | woglinde: I moved from Gentoo, the ultimate in having to configure everything, because I was wasting valuable coding time doing basic system setup |
| 11:18.02 | TheCan | mikearthur, :) |
| 11:18.05 | woglinde | mikearthur hehe |
| 11:18.09 | woglinde | mom |
| 11:18.29 | mikearthur | do13_: reckon a rebuild is worth it? |
| 11:18.45 | woglinde | hehe read this -> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-dist1.html |
| 11:18.56 | do13_ | did you changed the configs? |
| 11:19.08 | mikearthur | not while building this one |
| 11:19.42 | mikearthur | do13_: I'll post it, you can have a look |
| 11:20.56 | mikearthur | do13_: http://mikearthur.co.uk/local.conf |
| 11:20.59 | do13_ | can you post the logs building xext? |
| 11:21.04 | mikearthur | sure |
| 11:22.38 | do13_ | local.conf looks sane |
| 11:22.48 | mikearthur | do13_: http://mikearthur.co.uk/xextcompile.log |
| 11:28.41 | koen | mikearthur: gentoo is for pansies, use LFS |
| 11:29.01 | mikearthur | koen: one of my friends uses it as his major distribution |
| 11:29.09 | mikearthur | koen: building Xorg is FUN |
| 11:29.27 | koen | mikearthur: I used LFS for years |
| 11:29.43 | koen | till I forgot to update samba and got r00ted |
| 11:29.50 | koen | debian ever since :) |
| 11:29.54 | mikearthur | thats the thing |
| 11:30.07 | TheCan | mikearthur, i had debian for one year, then 3 years of gentoo now |
| 11:30.07 | mikearthur | its just so obtrusive to keep distros like gentoo/lfs up to date |
| 11:30.17 | woglinde | I have debian for 10 years |
| 11:30.19 | mikearthur | I used gentoo for 3 years |
| 11:30.26 | mikearthur | and ubuntu for a few months now |
| 11:30.31 | mikearthur | but my parents have been on it for a year |
| 11:30.34 | mikearthur | well, kubuntu for me |
| 11:30.40 | TheCan | i got ubuntu on my notebook where i dont have time waiting for it to compile |
| 11:30.44 | woglinde | ten years of smooth updating via network |
| 11:30.53 | mikearthur | :) |
| 11:31.07 | mikearthur | the thing I came to the conclusion is |
| 11:31.08 | TheCan | problem about debian is the out-of-dateness in my pov |
| 11:31.17 | TheCan | ubuntu is better here with the half year cycle |
| 11:31.19 | do13_ | mikearthur: why is your arm-linux-gcc invoked without -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale ? |
| 11:31.30 | mikearthur | do13: I wouldn't know |
| 11:31.34 | woglinde | thecan but I works |
| 11:31.40 | woglinde | is stable |
| 11:31.47 | woglinde | there ubuntu have some problems |
| 11:32.06 | TheCan | woglinde, well gentoo is also stable and works for me, didnt really have many problems in those 3 years |
| 11:32.29 | mikearthur | but compiling is such a waste of time |
| 11:32.33 | TheCan | problem is just updating takes some time (well compiling..) |
| 11:32.43 | woglinde | thecan but company you dont want to compile all the time |
| 11:32.47 | woglinde | +in a |
| 11:32.49 | TheCan | yes |
| 11:33.36 | mikearthur | do13_: I don't know, is that a big problem? |
| 11:33.50 | mikearthur | and the performance benefit is negligable |
| 11:34.05 | TheCan | you can use emerge -k i think |
| 11:34.28 | do13_ | mikearthur: this is the only diff I see in our logs |
| 11:34.53 | mikearthur | do13_: wierd |
| 11:35.04 | mikearthur | TheCan: yeh, only if you have a binhost, and there aren't many |
| 11:35.20 | TheCan | oh ok |
| 11:35.22 | TheCan | didnt try |
| 11:35.34 | mikearthur | why do you compile from source? |
| 11:35.35 | koen | mikearthur: unless you have to count a lot of leading zeros |
| 11:35.38 | mikearthur | out of interest |
| 11:35.48 | mikearthur | koen: heh |
| 11:35.55 | koen | is there any other compiling that from source? |
| 11:35.59 | TheCan | mikearthur, well gentoo has more uptodate packages etc. |
| 11:36.09 | TheCan | normally source-based distros are more recent than binary-based ones |
| 11:36.16 | TheCan | that?s the biggest benefit |
| 11:36.35 | TheCan | compiling doesnt you give much speed imho |
| 11:36.46 | TheCan | apart from that, when you change architecture you got big problems |
| 11:36.54 | mikearthur | you ever tried debian unstable? |
| 11:36.55 | TheCan | thats why i run my amd64 with i686 simply |
| 11:37.02 | TheCan | yes i had debian unstable in the past |
| 11:37.10 | TheCan | too many senseless updates |
| 11:37.17 | TheCan | and some breakages |
| 11:37.28 | TheCan | apart from that still not up to date |
| 11:37.29 | mikearthur | do you use x86 or ~x86? |
| 11:37.35 | TheCan | as some packages are unmaintained |
| 11:37.48 | TheCan | i normally dont use masked packages |
| 11:38.11 | TheCan | i rather try to build myself (without gentoo?s help) then or get a binary package somewhere |
| 11:38.36 | mikearthur | fair enough |
| 11:38.42 | TheCan | what i dont like is when you can?t do emerge -v world anymore |
| 11:38.52 | TheCan | this is the situation for me now btw :) |
| 11:39.05 | TheCan | but using this etc/portage/* stuff can help |
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| 11:39.46 | mmp | Hello, I'm trying to do 'bitbake intltool-native', but it fails with non-presence of perl XML::Parser |
| 11:40.25 | mmp | strange is that I bitbake'd XML::Parser, but it did not install anything in staging directory for my arch... |
| 11:40.51 | florian_kc | mmp: ah, i guess you need this installed on your local system |
| 11:41.29 | mmp | florian_kc: It is also installed on local system; I had a look into libxml-parser-perl bbfile and it seems to invoke perl from staging directory |
| 11:42.26 | florian_kc | strange |
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| 11:42.57 | mmp | maybe I'm wrong |
| 11:44.32 | mmp | let me try it once more; maybe I just messed some things up in my head:) |
| 11:45.52 | mmp | No, I did not:( |
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| 12:07.45 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r5549e516... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: start adding support for cross/ |
| 12:07.50 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r2cab1957... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: create CROSS_DIR |
| 12:07.54 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * re2c985cb... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: only package cross if it exists to avoid bogus packages |
| 12:07.58 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * rb47b53c4... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: fix logic for crossdir |
| 12:12.00 | koen | cute: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/7/23/93 |
| 12:12.20 | hrw|work | RMK post same to lakml |
| 12:12.30 | koen | I know |
| 12:12.35 | koen | that's where I got the link from |
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| 12:17.45 | koen | hey pH5 |
| 12:17.56 | hrw|work | koen: no plans for kernel-discuss@lists.ltg? |
| 12:18.11 | pH5 | hey koen, hrw|work |
| 12:18.19 | hrw|work | hi pH5 |
| 12:18.25 | koen | hrw|work: no, since ltg doesn't have "it's own" kernel |
| 12:18.46 | koen | hrw|work: ltg is happy to host kernel projects, though |
| 12:19.04 | koen | pH5: XorA had some problems with the one-j-too-many patch |
| 12:19.26 | lrg | XorA: it's not you. :) |
| 12:19.50 | XorA | lrg: let me guess, they are at GMT+11 :-) |
| 12:20.22 | wrobbie | Quickie question: is glibc-initial supposed to be compiled native, or cross (for target)? |
| 12:20.28 | pH5 | XorA: what kind of problems? |
| 12:20.45 | XorA | pH5: it takes 5 seconds to start an app with that patch |
| 12:21.00 | XorA | pH5: as compared to instant without |
| 12:21.35 | pH5 | XorA: that's bad. |
| 12:22.29 | XorA | pH5: guess that wierd loop was an optimisation |
| 12:22.37 | XorA | ~lart my I key |
| 12:22.41 | pH5 | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7640 |
| 12:22.46 | pH5 | nobody commented on that yet |
| 12:25.16 | pH5 | XorA: from my (admittedly poor) understanding of the code, I have no clue why that change would make such a difference :-( |
| 12:25.36 | XorA | pH5: no idea either, the change looks so simple |
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| 12:26.25 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rb767895b... 10/ (1 packages/meta/meta-sdk.bb): meta-sdk: Add some missing and useful libraries. |
| 12:26.31 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rf2119017... 10/ (1 packages/meta/meta-sdk.bb): meta-sdk: Remove libhandoff which isn't released yet. |
| 12:26.39 | CIA-9 | 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rf241c59e... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/libsoup_2.2.93.bb): libsoup: add |
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| 12:34.30 | hrw|work | florian_kc: thx |
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| 12:36.27 | florian_kc | hrw|work: yw, i'll run a test with the latest modifications later today... need to wait for another image to finish. |
| 12:39.01 | hrw|work | florian_kc: I need to test native sdk - probably will upgrade to binutils 2.16 |
| 12:43.21 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd9402618... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.2.0.bb): gpe-conf: update to 0.2.0 |
| 12:43.31 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re7213895... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): gpe-conf: drop old versions |
| 12:44.04 | florian_kc | hrm... i just ran into this freetype libz issue |
| 12:44.04 | mikearthur | lrg: thought you were in this avo? |
| 12:44.29 | koen | florian_kc: disable zlib in freetype |
| 12:45.42 | lrg | mikearthur: my bag hasn't arrived yet. I called and it's with the couriers somewhere in east Scotland. |
| 12:47.24 | mikearthur | lrg: noobs |
| 12:47.44 | florian_kc | koen: ok, thanks |
| 12:47.49 | florian_kc | brb, food |
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| 13:23.47 | mmp | florian_kc: the XML::Parser packages was installed in OEROOT/tmp/staging/local/lib/perl5..., instead of the x86_64 directory. I'm going to rebuild perl to see if there is not something wrong with it |
| 13:24.08 | mmp | s/packages/package/ |
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| 13:40.54 | koen | djeez |
| 13:41.07 | koen | if kdrive finds fonts it suddenly insist on loading a cursos font |
| 13:41.14 | koen | cursor* |
| 13:41.22 | zecke | lol |
| 13:42.05 | koen | and exits if you don't have it |
| 13:42.19 | koen | but if you don't have any fonts *at all* it will happily load |
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| 13:44.30 | koen | gpe-login still crashes, but the strace log now has less errors |
| 13:44.50 | koen | it works fine over remote-X, so kdrive is buggy |
| 13:45.19 | XorA | koen: dillo kills my kdrive :-) |
| 13:46.41 | ArjanS | koen: do you also have problems with kdrive interpreting the ts wrong? on my (recent) .dev image, it handles every first tap as 'focus this field', and a second tap on the same place is the actual mouse click |
| 13:48.57 | koen | ArjanS: haven't noticed that |
| 13:49.00 | florian_kc | mmp: sounds like a bug |
| 13:49.48 | mmp | florian_kc: now I debugged few things; it is installed there, but perl looks for its modules also in that directory, so this should be ok |
| 13:50.53 | mmp | I need to debug a bit that bbfile; when running OE's version of native perl manually and requiring XML::Parser, it complains that it can't find libexpat.so.0. I wonder if this same happens also in bbfile |
| 13:53.41 | ArjanS | koen: okay... can you perhaps provide some pointers as in where I can look for bugs? the touchscreen works perfectly in old gpe images, opie and ts_test |
| 13:54.01 | koen | ArjanS: kdrive rotation? |
| 14:00.32 | ArjanS | koen: sorry, didn't understand what you mean |
| 14:03.08 | zecke | mmp: perl-native in this case |
| 14:03.17 | zecke | mmp: and it is complaining about a missing libexpat.so |
| 14:03.31 | zecke | mmp: could you use ldd on the perl c module to check where it is checking for libexpat |
| 14:03.48 | pH5 | hmm, gpesyncd fails during linking with undefined references to libz stuff (deflate, inflate, etc.) |
| 14:04.54 | zecke | hrw|work: let us use SUSE buildservice |
| 14:05.41 | mmp | zecke: do you think Expat.so? This one just tells me "not found" for libexpat.so.0 |
| 14:05.57 | hrw|work | zecke: currently OE does not support "bitbake --from-scratch gpesyncd" in acceptable time |
| 14:06.55 | florian_kc | pH5: hmm... nasty |
| 14:07.15 | florian_kc | pH5: i'm just building from the scratch... i'll wait for the same to happen here. |
| 14:07.44 | mmp | zecke: but I need to prepend LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/oe/libdir to perl call to make it succeed. |
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| 14:08.32 | zecke | mmp: okay, this needs to be changed :) |
| 14:09.47 | mmp | zecke: bitbake -e does not show anything containing LD_LIBRARY_PATH... |
| 14:12.38 | koen | XorA: try installing preling (and prelink -u /bin/busybox afterwards) |
| 14:13.42 | XorA | koen: what kind of mess s that gong to get me in :-) |
| 14:14.05 | koen | XorA: apps startup a lot faster |
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| 14:19.00 | mmp | zecke: definitely confirming the original problem was also caused by this - "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$OEROOT/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/lib/ bitbake intltool-native" build intltool-native correctly |
| 14:20.13 | XorA | koen: gelf_getverdaux.os gelf_getrel.os gelf_getrela.os gelf_update_rel.os gelf_update |
| 14:20.16 | XorA | _rela.os gelf_getdyn.os gelf_update_dyn.os gelf_getmove.os gelf_update_move.os g |
| 14:20.19 | XorA | elf_getsyminfo.os gelf_update_syminfo.os gelf_xlatetof.os gelf_xlatetom.os nlist |
| 14:20.21 | XorA | .os gelf_getsymshndx.os gelf_update_symshndx.os gelf_update_versym.os gelf_updat |
| 14:20.24 | XorA | e_verneed.os gelf_update_vernaux.os gelf_update_verdef.os gelf_update_verdaux.os |
| 14:20.26 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.29 | XorA | cksum.os gelf_rawchunk.os gelf_freechunk.os libelf_crc32.os libelf_next_prime.os |
| 14:20.31 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.34 | XorA | arm-linux-ranlib libelf_pic.a |
| 14:20.37 | XorA | arm-linux-gcc -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -shared -o libelf.so -Wl,--whole-arch |
| 14:20.39 | XorA | ive,libelf_pic.a,--no-whole-archive \ |
| 14:20.41 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.44 | XorA | nux/elfutils-0.108-r0/elfutils-0.108/libelf/libelf.map,--no-undefined \ |
| 14:20.46 | XorA | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.49 | XorA | damnation sorry people, wrong key in wndows |
| 14:20.52 | XorA | koen: http://pastebin.ca/111866 |
| 14:20.56 | zecke | XorA: lol |
| 14:21.01 | zecke | lame excuse |
| 14:21.11 | XorA | ~lart me for being a lamer |
| 14:21.29 | koen | mmmm, herring.... |
| 14:22.16 | koen | XorA: it works for me(TM), which is all the advice I can offer |
| 14:29.19 | hrw|work | "mov r0,r0" discussion is fun |
| 14:32.30 | XorA | hrw|work: you got src and sest backwards :-) |
| 14:32.39 | XorA | s/sest/dest/ |
| 14:35.11 | XorA | koen: bleh I understand not this elf magic |
| 14:35.49 | koen | XorA: dwarf magic would be better anyway ;) |
| 14:36.15 | XorA | koen: Dark Elves have better babes |
| 14:37.49 | pH5 | XorA: if you aren't turned on by beards, that is. |
| 14:41.47 | XorA | pH5: if your into that come to the backwoods of scotland :-) |
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| 14:51.51 | hrw|work | note to self: check md5sums of all sd/mmc cards with 2.6.17 |
| 14:57.22 | koen | ~lart libpng,.so |
| 14:57.45 | zecke | haha |
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| 15:01.52 | Genesis | bonjour alan|philo :) |
| 15:02.09 | Crofton | koen, did I get added to the commit list for oe (philip@balister.org) |
| 15:02.33 | koen | Crofton: which list? |
| 15:02.40 | Crofton | commit list for montone |
| 15:02.50 | Crofton | I sent my key to you and mickeyl |
| 15:02.52 | koen | Crofton: if you were, you'd have a mail from mickeyl in your inbox |
| 15:02.55 | Crofton | last week |
| 15:02.58 | Crofton | ok |
| 15:03.01 | Crofton | I don't :) |
| 15:03.10 | zecke | haeh? don't we have a mailman interface? |
| 15:03.26 | koen | zecke: for adding keys? |
| 15:05.07 | alan|philo | bonjour Genesis |
| 15:05.12 | alan|philo | hi all |
| 15:06.05 | hrw|work | hi alan |
| 15:06.05 | XorA | koen: does Angstrom image work yet? |
| 15:06.49 | zecke | Crofton: you confuse me. By commit list you mean mailinglist? |
| 15:07.19 | Crofton | no |
| 15:07.26 | Crofton | monotone access :) |
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| 15:15.08 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 15:16.40 | koen | XorA: apart from gpe-login crashing, yes |
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| 15:37.15 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:38.18 | alan|philo | morning chouimat |
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| 15:46.21 | hrw|work | after spending some time with my work enviroment I feel why OLPC devteam care about memory usage so much |
| 15:46.29 | hrw|work | Mem: 775752k total, 755920k used, 19832k free, 82308k buffers |
| 15:46.30 | hrw|work | Swap: 522072k total, 457896k used, 64176k free, 321880k cached |
| 15:49.42 | CosmicPenguin | well - duh |
| 15:51.03 | hrw|work | I could understand so big usage with java apps but I'm getting scared of that usage |
| 15:52.20 | zecke | hehe |
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| 15:55.10 | mr_nice_slacker | hi all |
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| 16:13.35 | hrw|work | cu all |
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| 16:51.22 | Genesis | bye |
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| 17:29.09 | JustinP | RP: ping |
| 17:30.07 | koen | JustinP: iirc RP is on holiday for this week |
| 17:30.50 | JustinP | ah.... |
| 17:31.06 | JustinP | I don't suppoose anyone else know how to get the state of the hinge in the 2.6 kernels.... |
| 17:31.28 | koen | JustinP: it should be in the zaurusd source |
| 17:31.39 | koen | and there's the chkhinge26 in o-hand svn |
| 17:31.55 | JustinP | zaurusd didn't help me |
| 17:32.02 | JustinP | I copied all of the relevant code and always get 0 |
| 17:33.46 | koen | and with chkhinge26? |
| 17:33.55 | JustinP | I don't know.....haven't found it yet |
| 17:34.48 | koen | http://svn.o-hand.com/view/misc/trunk/ |
| 17:34.49 | JustinP | all I see is matchbox on http://svn.o-hand.com/view/matchbox/ |
| 17:34.56 | JustinP | argh |
| 17:35.02 | JustinP | missed the drop-down |
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| 17:37.56 | jg_ | kergoth: What's the state of tslib? Is Russel's CVS still the repository for it? |
| 17:38.07 | koen | jg_: yes |
| 17:38.09 | zecke | jg_: it is |
| 17:38.22 | zecke | jg_: it works, is stable and stagnates :) |
| 17:38.58 | jg_ | zecke: thanks. Is it worth bothering with? |
| 17:40.04 | florian_kc | bbiab |
| 17:44.04 | mallum | jg_: theres not really any alternatives |
| 17:44.24 | mallum | jg_: and dispite being cvs only, its pretty heavily used |
| 17:54.52 | zecke | jg_: sure. What else would you use? |
| 17:55.21 | zecke | jg_: it is stable, stable api, it doesn't leak and has good debugging tools while being flexible :) |
| 17:55.28 | jg_ | zecke: one can always write code from scratch ;-) |
| 17:55.52 | zecke | hehe |
| 17:56.28 | zecke | jg_: it is good enough for Nokia (well they have some patches), good enough for the familiar and zaurus users |
| 17:57.57 | mallum | jg_: kdrive support too, with calibration |
| 17:58.29 | mallum | kergoth: you really should do a tslib release ;) |
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| 17:58.45 | zecke|food | mallum: hehe |
| 17:59.12 | jg_ | mallum: using full up X.org release on OLPC. And technically, we don't have a touch screen, but a new dual mode touchpad/tablet device. |
| 17:59.15 | mallum | zecke|food: nobody knows about it / trusts it as cvs only :( |
| 17:59.51 | jg_ | mallum: no release before its time: tslib looks last touched a year or two ago in CVS. |
| 18:00.11 | zecke|food | jg_: but it is in heavy use |
| 18:00.13 | mallum | jg_: right, theres probably been no need |
| 18:00.40 | mallum | jg_: custom XInput driver then maybe ? |
| 18:00.42 | koen | not after fixing 59 occurences of the unsigned char problem a while back |
| 18:01.06 | jg_ | mallum: yes, on evdev, rather than antique brokenness of X.org input nonesense. |
| 18:01.13 | koen | I remember someone made a patch to add tslib support to Xorg |
| 18:01.28 | jg_ | mallum: warp is doing the work for us under contract. |
| 18:02.11 | mallum | jg_: the driver ? |
| 18:02.52 | jg_ | mallum: the driver both kernel and X. |
| 18:03.04 | mallum | jg_: there is an evdev touchscreen driver for X |
| 18:03.57 | jg_ | warp's been trying to drag X into the modern world of evdev; this is a way to help that happen. The old X.org stuff is so broken, I want nothing to do with it. |
| 18:04.02 | mallum | jg_: http://opensource.idealcorp.com/evdev/ |
| 18:06.07 | mallum | jg_: do you have a url for warp ? |
| 18:06.34 | jg_ | warp at debian.org is one of his mail addresses |
| 18:06.54 | jg_ | His name is Zephaniah Hull. |
| 18:08.30 | woglinde | zecke I am in the mood for nfs u2 |
| 18:08.34 | mallum | icculus guy ? |
| 18:09.01 | zecke|food | woglinde: get a copy, come here to play |
| 18:09.12 | woglinde | sorry cant |
| 18:09.22 | woglinde | maybee sunday? |
| 18:09.53 | zecke|food | woglinde: any day but wednesday or thursday as I will be in munich again |
| 18:10.01 | woglinde | hm http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4539563903.html |
| 18:10.09 | woglinde | next week? |
| 18:10.13 | zecke|food | yes |
| 18:10.23 | woglinde | okay so whats with sunday? |
| 18:11.11 | woglinde | ouch the phone has tv-out |
| 18:11.39 | zecke|food | woglinde: get a copy, come to my flat whenever you want |
| 18:11.49 | woglinde | your flat? |
| 18:11.55 | woglinde | did I missed something? |
| 18:12.09 | zecke|food | woglinde: hehe, flat, house, hat, room whatever |
| 18:12.23 | zecke|food | woglinde: steve gave me another shark |
| 18:12.32 | woglinde | now you have a cluster? |
| 18:12.49 | woglinde | 2.4 kernel only that suckz |
| 18:13.09 | zecke|food | woglinde: mizi? |
| 18:13.12 | woglinde | jo |
| 18:14.35 | zecke|food | woglinde: alternate is sloow. I wait for my IDE disk... |
| 18:17.51 | woglinde | hm why did you order at alternate? |
| 18:18.02 | woglinde | mindfactory is cheaper and faster |
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| 18:38.45 | mickeyl | "morning" |
| 18:39.00 | reenoo | moin mickeyl |
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| 18:48.08 | koen | ~lart mesa |
| 18:48.15 | koen | ibot: botsnack |
| 18:48.15 | ibot | aw, gee, koen |
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| 18:52.07 | mr_nice_slacker | hi all |
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| 18:53.15 | koen | hey mr_nice_slacker |
| 18:53.27 | mr_nice_slacker | hi koen |
| 18:54.05 | mr_nice_slacker | any one know a good chanel for gcc first stage cross compiler building problems (chicken and egg problem with libc) ? |
| 18:54.34 | koen | OE builds them for you :) |
| 18:55.03 | mr_nice_slacker | yes, but I want to ger able to build them myself ;) |
| 18:55.27 | koen | why? |
| 18:55.39 | koen | there's a reason why people started OE |
| 18:56.34 | mr_nice_slacker | Just for technical studies - or something like that |
| 18:57.01 | mickeyl | anyone built diet-x11 lately? |
| 18:57.04 | zecke|food | mr_nice_slacker: search developerworks of IBM |
| 18:57.10 | mickeyl | it doesn't find its patches :/ |
| 18:57.26 | mickeyl | ~lart people commiting moves and renames without testing |
| 18:57.38 | mr_nice_slacker | Well this document brought me to that chicken egg problem .. |
| 18:57.47 | mickeyl | any idea why diet-x11 wouldn't find xextensions although it has been built? |
| 18:57.53 | woglinde | mr_nice why? |
| 18:58.36 | mr_nice_slacker | it uses --with-newlib to ship arround but it brings me to crto stuff |
| 19:01.04 | koen | mickeyl: the old diet-x11 is missing its patches iirc |
| 19:01.15 | koen | mickeyl: see bugzilla |
| 19:01.38 | zecke|food | mr_nice_slacker: It is the chicken and egg problem |
| 19:01.59 | zecke|food | mr_nice_slacker: see ghc as another incarnation of the problem |
| 19:02.17 | JoeSchmo | I never ran into a chichen/egg problem when building a cross-compiler... |
| 19:02.49 | mr_nice_slacker | JoeSchmo: please tell me the secret ;) |
| 19:03.01 | JoeSchmo | trac.cross-lfs.org :) |
| 19:03.45 | JoeSchmo | dev == canadian cross, 2.0 == sysroot style (very young) |
| 19:04.02 | woglinde | joeschmo nono you dont understand |
| 19:04.11 | JoeSchmo | guess not |
| 19:04.28 | woglinde | mr_nice problem is, where gcc firs or libc first |
| 19:05.06 | JoeSchmo | linux-headers, binutils, glibc-headers, gcc-static, glibc, gcc-final |
| 19:05.12 | JoeSchmo | that's my standard build order |
| 19:05.24 | woglinde | nono |
| 19:05.26 | woglinde | not now |
| 19:05.30 | woglinde | back in the old times |
| 19:05.38 | woglinde | where stallman has to leave mit |
| 19:05.41 | woglinde | when |
| 19:07.12 | mickeyl | koen: I've readded the patches, but it doesn't find xextensions now. |
| 19:07.22 | mickeyl | where's ciabot btw? |
| 19:07.56 | koen | mickeyl: 'screen -Ux' |
| 19:08.11 | mickeyl | Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check. |
| 19:08.28 | koen | did you use sudo or something? |
| 19:08.31 | mickeyl | ya |
| 19:08.38 | koen | don't :) |
| 19:08.40 | mickeyl | hmm, k |
| 19:09.04 | koen | ~/ciabot would be my guess |
| 19:09.25 | koen | djeez |
| 19:09.30 | mr_nice_slacker | thx anyone - I will start to read a bit more documentation now |
| 19:10.02 | koen | xserver-xorg insist on doing a cross-compile unsafe check for building does even if you tell to *not* build docs |
| 19:10.11 | koen | who wrote crap like that? |
| 19:10.32 | koen | ah |
| 19:10.34 | koen | dnl Copyright © 2003-2005 Keith Packard, Daniel Ston |
| 19:10.42 | woglinde | uh |
| 19:10.49 | woglinde | they should know |
| 19:10.53 | woglinde | jesus |
| 19:11.42 | koen | and you can't remove that extra test, since that's the one used to *actually* enable/disable docs |
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| 19:13.28 | mallum | koen: send me a patch and I'll commit it |
| 19:13.33 | CIA-9 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r5f3f04b4... 10/ (8 files in 2 dirs): packages/sylpheed/* : drop old versions |
| 19:13.45 | CIA-9 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rec203c2d... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:13.45 | CIA-9 | sylpheed-claws-plugin-gtkhtml2-viewer-0.10.2_2.4.0.bb |
| 19:13.45 | CIA-9 | sylpheed-claws-plugin-maildir-0.24.1_2.4.0.bb |
| 19:13.45 | CIA-9 | sylpheed-claws-plugin-rssyl-0.6_2.4.0.bb |
| 19:13.45 | CIA-9 | New versions for newer 2.4.0 sylpheed-claws |
| 19:13.47 | koen | mallum: still trying to figure out how to solve it |
| 19:13.56 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra5338f1e... 10/ (12 files in 3 dirs): distro configurations: PREFERRED_PROVIDER_libx11 -> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libx11 |
| 19:13.59 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r82b524f1... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): diet-x11: move/copy patches to make it compile again |
| 19:14.10 | mickeyl | which diet-x11 is recommended to build nowadays? |
| 19:14.28 | koen | mickeyl: the X11R7 one |
| 19:14.39 | mickeyl | ah. now to find out why 6.2.1 is chosen per defaul |
| 19:16.48 | mickeyl | that brings me back to that bitbake feature wish ... |
| 19:16.51 | mickeyl | reverse lookup |
| 19:16.56 | mickeyl | of variables |
| 19:17.38 | koen | mallum: the XORG_CHECK_LINUXDOC macro is causing the grief |
| 19:17.56 | mickeyl | aha |
| 19:17.59 | koen | mallum: AM_CONDITIONAL(BUILDDOCS, test "x$BUILDDOCS" = xyes) should take care of that |
| 19:18.02 | mickeyl | preferred-gpe-versions-2.6.inc:PREFERRED_VERSION_diet-x11 ?= "6.2.1" |
| 19:18.02 | mickeyl | preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc:PREFERRED_VERSION_diet-x11 ?= "6.2.1" |
| 19:18.02 | mickeyl | preferred-gpe-versions.inc:PREFERRED_VERSION_diet-x11 ?= "6.2.1" |
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| 19:18.17 | mickeyl | is that still correct? |
| 19:18.28 | koen | mickeyl: for old style x, yes |
| 19:18.54 | koen | unsupported and obsolete X, that is |
| 19:19.02 | mickeyl | aha. who will feel responsible for bringing it up to the new generation |
| 19:19.04 | mickeyl | ? |
| 19:19.15 | koen | we now have buggy and might-be-supported 7.1 now in .dev |
| 19:19.27 | mickeyl | shouldn't we remove 6.2.1 completely if it's unsupported and obsolete? |
| 19:19.32 | koen | mickeyl: gpe 2.6 and 2.7 are already released |
| 19:19.48 | koen | I don't feel like doing a stalinistic history tampering |
| 19:20.05 | mickeyl | me neither, but then we should at least try to keep the old versions working |
| 19:20.12 | koen | yeah |
| 19:20.27 | koen | wanna help out with getting X into shape? |
| 19:20.46 | koen | R6, R7 and R7.1 are all a bit messy in .dev |
| 19:20.56 | mickeyl | not if I can keep out of it. I'm busy enough with all the Qt/E, Opie and Python stuff |
| 19:21.30 | mickeyl | i had hoped there were enough X lovers around |
| 19:21.54 | koen | they aren't building from .dev |
| 19:21.58 | mickeyl | in fact the reason why I'm stumbling over that is because python depends on libx11 |
| 19:22.06 | koen | the gpe people are using .oz354x and o-hand has poky |
| 19:22.07 | mickeyl | and i was trying to fix some python things |
| 19:22.19 | woglinde | mickeyl why core python depends on x? |
| 19:22.22 | woglinde | dont get it |
| 19:22.26 | mickeyl | easy |
| 19:22.31 | mickeyl | because python builds tkinter |
| 19:22.36 | mickeyl | which relies on tk |
| 19:22.38 | mickeyl | which relies on libx11 |
| 19:22.55 | woglinde | tk and tcl is ugly and somewhat dead |
| 19:23.17 | woglinde | sure other people dont belevie this and using it |
| 19:23.32 | mickeyl | koen: that's exactly why I hate branches in general. do you think there is a way to drag some of the gpe guys back into .dev? |
| 19:23.49 | mickeyl | small groups just can't afford branches |
| 19:23.51 | mickeyl | :/ |
| 19:24.01 | woglinde | mickeyl cant you disable tkinter? |
| 19:24.04 | koen | s/branches/long lived branches/ |
| 19:24.29 | koen | mickeyl: I think OE would benefit greatly from small feature based branches that will be merged back |
| 19:24.40 | mallum | koen: do you just want to add a if BUILDDOC DOC_DIR=dir endif to toplevel Makefile.am ? |
| 19:24.48 | koen | mickeyl: instead of the commit-break-fix-commit we are doing now |
| 19:24.50 | mickeyl | woglinde: i can, but X not building bothers me because I tend to feel responsible for the OE quality in general. If we don't have a simple libx11 working in .dev, then OE simply sucks. |
| 19:25.13 | woglinde | mickeyl okay |
| 19:25.48 | koen | mallum: that wouldn't help configure from bailing out, right? |
| 19:25.52 | mickeyl | *sigh* if we just had those crazy pdaXrom guys here *sigh* |
| 19:25.55 | mickeyl | ~lart crosstool |
| 19:25.56 | mickeyl | ~lart crosstool again |
| 19:26.08 | koen | mickeyl: pdaX is still using Xfree86 |
| 19:26.17 | mickeyl | ok, so those wouldn't help in that case? |
| 19:26.19 | koen | mickeyl: the X situation would actually be worse L( |
| 19:26.27 | koen | s/L/:/ |
| 19:26.40 | mickeyl | i see |
| 19:27.00 | koen | mallum: AC_DEFUN([XORG_CHECK_LINUXDOC],[AC_CHECK_FILE( [$prefix/share/X11/sgml/defs.ent], |
| 19:27.05 | koen | mallum: that's the problem |
| 19:28.23 | mickeyl | oh great. pkg-config SIGSEGVs here |
| 19:28.50 | mickeyl | guess it's one of those days where I won't get anywhere |
| 19:28.56 | mickeyl | l8er |
| 19:29.02 | woglinde | night mickeyl |
| 19:29.08 | koen | mallum: would your makefile.am patch 'fix' stuff if I just remove XORG_CHECK_LINUXDOC from configure.ac? |
| 19:29.35 | koen | mickey|tv: DISTRO=angstrom-2006.9 solves a lot of the problems you are seeing |
| 19:31.05 | zecke|food | mickey|tv: latwe |
| 19:31.19 | mallum | koen: ah its XORG_CHECK_LINUXDOC breaking ? |
| 19:31.27 | zecke|food | koen: let us replace fink and darwinports |
| 19:31.30 | koen | mallum: yes |
| 19:32.05 | mallum | koen: wrap XORG_CHECK_LINUXDOC if a check too |
| 19:33.11 | mallum | koen: hmm actually there are docs all over the place :/ |
| 19:33.39 | koen | mallum: hence 'who wrote this crap?' |
| 19:34.40 | mallum | koen: though that mostly seems to have the write checks |
| 19:35.04 | mallum | koen: so maybe just wrapping XORG_CHECK_LINUXDOC with if builddocs is enough |
| 19:36.43 | koen | mallum: that should have the same effect as removing it, right? |
| 19:36.47 | koen | (just to test) |
| 19:37.14 | mallum | in theory |
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| 19:41.24 | koen | mallum: that give me this: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/xorg-breakage.txt |
| 19:42.06 | mallum | koen: oh fuckaduck |
| 19:42.44 | woglinde | koen hm more doc-tags to delete |
| 19:43.30 | mallum | koen: I think XORG_CHECK_LINUXDOC needs fixing |
| 19:43.56 | koen | woglinde: the bright side is that xserver-xorg uses xorg-macros.m4 instead of duplicating it in aclocal.m4 |
| 19:44.04 | koen | (like libxfixes and others do) |
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| 19:45.53 | zecke|food | koen: fink sucks soo much |
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| 19:46.55 | koen | zecke|food: yes |
| 19:47.04 | koen | zecke|food: but darwinports sucks more |
| 19:47.14 | zecke | koen: right, let us make OE suck less |
| 19:48.03 | koen | bleh |
| 19:48.10 | zecke | koen: ? |
| 19:48.19 | koen | and I only want to build xorg to cross check a bug in kdrive |
| 19:48.28 | zecke | hehe |
| 19:54.32 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.36 | koen | too much autofoo and gdb |
| 19:54.43 | koen | zecke: ah, cool |
| 19:54.47 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.09 | koen | zecke: I was secretly happy with the decrufting |
| 19:56.17 | zecke | koen: well, either we do a selection of the files (work on your site) |
| 19:56.36 | zecke | koen: or we ask the guy to mark them as old (if drupal permits) |
| 19:57.41 | koen | old -> unpublish them |
| 19:58.03 | zecke | oh I may push my branches again :) |
| 19:59.08 | koen | zecke: does svn have some form of a --missing switch? |
| 19:59.24 | zecke | svn status? |
| 19:59.38 | zecke | + sed + cut +tr |
| 19:59.46 | koen | zecke: 'svn add --missing' and 'svn delete --missing' |
| 19:59.51 | zecke | ahh |
| 20:00.01 | zecke | koen: dunno, don't waste your time |
| 20:00.08 | zecke | koen: point people to tailor to check how to do it |
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| 20:00.38 | koen | zecke: mickeyl is trying to hook up the svn mirror to ciabot |
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| 20:08.01 | zecke | wb |
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| 21:12.48 | dtx | Hey whats the maximum root image size I can upload to my C1000? |
| 21:12.59 | dtx | Zaurus |
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| 21:52.33 | dtx | Is anybody in here? |
| 21:52.49 | woglinde | yes |
| 21:53.15 | dtx | do you use openzaurus or OE? |
| 21:53.49 | woglinde | nope |
| 21:53.55 | woglinde | aeh I use OE |
| 21:53.56 | zecke | dtx: wrong question |
| 21:53.59 | woglinde | but not opnezaurus |
| 21:54.01 | woglinde | sorry |
| 21:54.16 | zecke | dtx: OpenZaurus uses OE to create the distribution |
| 21:54.21 | dtx | sorry |
| 21:54.23 | dtx | I knew that |
| 21:54.26 | dtx | misphrasing |
| 21:54.45 | dtx | I was just wondering if anyone was familiar with building OE for openzaurus |
| 21:54.57 | dtx | more specifically if they knew what the maximum initrd.bin size is |
| 21:55.04 | dtx | for a Zaurus C1000 |
| 21:55.11 | JustinP | OZ uses OE to build ipks and images |
| 21:55.18 | JustinP | you don't "build OE" |
| 21:55.26 | JustinP | and yes, many of us are familiar with it |
| 21:55.52 | dtx | not meaning to get into semantics, but you have a .Net type of an issue with the OpenEmbedded name |
| 21:56.11 | JustinP | ? |
| 21:56.18 | woglinde | .net? |
| 21:56.20 | dtx | I understand OpenEmbedded supplies the facilities to build OpenZaurus and familiar and a bunch of other stuff |
| 21:56.26 | dtx | ;-) |
| 21:56.29 | JustinP | ok |
| 21:56.30 | JustinP | well |
| 21:56.33 | JustinP | try asking your question |
| 21:56.39 | woglinde | justin he has |
| 21:57.00 | zecke | dtx: sorry I don't know the max size of init.rd |
| 21:57.01 | woglinde | what the max initrd.bin size is for sharp zaurus c1000 |
| 21:57.17 | woglinde | or maybee how he can changed i |
| 21:57.17 | woglinde | t |
| 22:01.42 | JustinP | ah...heh, sorry, yes he did |
| 22:01.54 | JustinP | dtx: it's in the conf/machine/spitz.conf file IIRC |
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| 22:44.23 | furlongm | hello |
| 22:45.03 | zwelch | are there any IDEs that can drive/manage the bitbake/openembedded build system and metadata? |
| 22:45.52 | furlongm | have followed the oe gettingstarted guide, but i get the following type of errors: "Unable to generate local paths for SRC_URI due to malformed uri" when running bitbake on any package |
| 22:46.01 | furlongm | am i missing something? |
| 22:46.23 | zwelch | that's odd. try running with -D or -vvv? |
| 22:46.46 | zwelch | i.e. see if you can coax more information out of it |
| 22:48.29 | furlongm | bitbake doesn't need to be run as root, does it? |
| 22:48.32 | furlongm | will try now |
| 22:48.35 | zwelch | also, i've found the bitbake shell's pastebin functionaility to be useful; run 'shell bitbake <args that cause problems' then 'pastebin <buffer>' (where the id can be determined from buffers) |
| 22:48.44 | zwelch | no, you don't need root |
| 22:50.06 | zwelch | anyway, the example above is how one can use bitbake to trivial share the output from a problem with bitbake; as long as the shell functionality works, other bugs in bitbake can still be reported with bitbake :) |
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| 22:51.55 | furlongm | running `bitbake -vvv nano`, first error is "ERROR: dictionary changed size during iteration while parsing ..." |
| 22:58.08 | JustinP | furlongm: perhaps you didn't set up yout BBPATH correctly? |
| 22:59.49 | furlongm | hmm |
| 23:00.28 | furlongm | ~/projects/oe/build $ echo $BBPATH |
| 23:00.32 | furlongm | /home/furlongm/projects/oe/build:/home/furlongm/projects/oe/org.openembedded.dev |
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| 23:01.24 | furlongm | seems ok to me |
| 23:01.38 | furlongm | is OEPATH needed? (found it on google) |
| 23:13.26 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 23:17.12 | JustinP | furlongm: yep, that would be it |
| 23:17.21 | JustinP | furlongm: (no OEPATH, that's very old) |
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