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| 02:48.12 | CIA-2 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r496e34a9... 10/packages/iputils/ (files/glibc-2.4-compat.patch iputils_20020927.bb): |
| 02:48.12 | CIA-2 | iputils 20020927: Add support for building with glibc 2.4. In glibc 2.4 |
| 02:48.12 | CIA-2 | several of the IPv6 constants were reanmed - this changes to using the new |
| 02:48.12 | CIA-2 | versions but also redefines them to the old versions when being used on |
| 02:48.12 | CIA-2 | glibc < 2.3 or uclibc. |
| 02:52.34 | zwelch | so, i determined my problems stem from the fact that i have a 'bootstrap' script that wants to call libtoolize --ltdl, but the files that requires do not get installed where they are available. |
| 03:01.52 | CIA-2 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r4de51d98... 10/packages/linux/linux-titan-sh4_2.6.17.bb: |
| 03:01.52 | CIA-2 | linux-titan-sh4 2.6.17: Fix to enable module loading. The initial 2.6.16 |
| 03:01.52 | CIA-2 | port to sh was unable to load any modules, so roll the CVS date for the |
| 03:01.52 | CIA-2 | linux-sh tree forward a few days to pick up the fixes. |
| 03:08.31 | zwelch | indeed; i just added some lines to the libtool-native .bb file to provide those in the staging area. this has fixed my bootstrap script. i presume adding ASSUME_PROVIDED="libtool-native" would solve the problem, but by escaping BB's box |
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| 03:26.08 | CIA-2 | 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r467047c9... 10/packages/liblockfile/ (liblockfile-1.06/glibc-2.4.patch liblockfile_1.06.bb): |
| 03:26.08 | CIA-2 | liblockfile 1.06: Fix for building with glibc 2.4. The local function |
| 03:26.08 | CIA-2 | eaccess conflicts with a function of the same name supplied wih glibc 2.4. |
| 03:26.08 | CIA-2 | So add a patch which globally renames this function within the library. |
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| 04:12.11 | zwelch | feedback/discussion concerning the patch in bug 1157 would be welcome; it solves my libltdl build problems |
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| 06:59.08 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:00.42 | hvontres|home | morning koen |
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| 07:01.39 | ibot | ixoth <n=ixoth@pppoe-158.12.110.89-adsl.spbnit.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 9h 10m 25s ago, saying: 'goodbye everyone, have to go'. |
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| 07:39.42 | RP | morning all |
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| 07:43.54 | do13_ | morning all |
| 07:44.16 | XorA | morning |
| 07:57.19 | koen | hey RP, Dirk and XorA |
| 07:58.59 | XorA | koen: I think I found the cure to the alignment problems, expect some checkins later on |
| 07:59.09 | koen | XorA: ah, cool |
| 07:59.10 | XorA | ~lart hardware failure |
| 07:59.20 | koen | XorA: if possible, submit upstream :) |
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| 08:06.10 | XorA | koen: its more, use upstream versions not our ancient ones :-) |
| 08:08.29 | koen | heh |
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| 08:29.24 | CIA-2 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r210506ba... 10/packages/fontconfig/fontconfig_2.3.95.bb: (log message trimmed) |
| 08:29.24 | CIA-2 | fontconfig_2.3.95.bb : new version of fontconfig |
| 08:29.24 | CIA-2 | autoconf/Makefile magic internall seems to do the right thing in cross |
| 08:29.24 | CIA-2 | compile situations so this one doesnt need a matching fontconfig-native. |
| 08:29.24 | CIA-2 | I have left at DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" to allow for proper evaluation |
| 08:29.24 | CIA-2 | as this library is fairly core. |
| 08:29.28 | CIA-2 | This version seems to cure the masses of alignment errors I was getting |
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| 08:34.19 | hrw|gone | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6437147703.html |
| 08:34.25 | hrw|work | morning |
| 08:34.33 | hrw|work | OZ is 'hacker friendly' now ;D |
| 08:37.30 | koen | now it just needs to be 'user friendly' ;) |
| 08:38.53 | koen | hrw|work: did you get my mail about the kernel-modules? |
| 08:39.42 | hrw|work | koen: yes |
| 08:40.21 | hrw|work | koen: nice idea |
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| 08:50.02 | hrw|work | koen: what do you think about OZ 3.5.4.1-r1 images for spitz then? |
| 08:50.15 | koen | good idea |
| 08:51.04 | zwelch | koen: how can i contribute to the user manual? |
| 08:51.16 | hrw|work | zwelch: edit and send patches? |
| 08:51.23 | koen | zwelch: what hrw said |
| 08:51.49 | hrw|work | Q: 'how can I contribute to OE?' A: 'edit and send patches' |
| 08:51.54 | zwelch | take #2: where can i find the sources of the user manual, against which i should base my patch? |
| 08:52.06 | koen | org.openembedded.documentation |
| 08:52.07 | hrw|work | zwelch: in branch |
| 08:52.23 | zwelch | thank you |
| 08:52.43 | koen | see http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.documentation |
| 08:52.52 | zwelch | what is the best mechanism for conveying these patches, such that they'll get incorporated asap? |
| 08:53.26 | hrw|work | submit to bugtracker and pester koen/zecke? |
| 08:54.01 | koen | yeah, or mail them to freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de AND koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl |
| 08:54.45 | zwelch | okay, now this is a fun question: which bug tracker gets the most attention? |
| 08:55.04 | hrw|work | OE use OE bugtracker |
| 08:55.05 | zwelch | i.e. bugs.oe.org or hh.org/~bugzilla? |
| 08:55.21 | zwelch | ah |
| 08:55.43 | zwelch | k then, they aren't as redundant as they appear then, i suppose |
| 08:55.45 | *** topic/#oe by hrw|work -> OpenEmbedded Developer Lounge | OE and bitbake were made to match, keep them both up to date | BitBake 1.4.2 has been released - only use HEAD if you are developing it | this is still not a distribution support channel | www.openembedded.org | Bugtracker: http://bugs.openembedded.org/ |
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| 09:02.52 | koen | zwelch: OE has virtually nothing to do with hh.org, except that the mailinglist is hosted there |
| 09:03.09 | hrw|work | koen: no plans to move ML to ltg? |
| 09:03.43 | koen | hrw|work: yes, but I need to pester nils for the mailman password |
| 09:04.57 | koen | hrw|work: We're trying to make it oe@openembedded.org |
| 09:05.25 | hrw|work | koen: not oe@lists.openembedded.org? |
| 09:05.47 | hrw|work | koen: so oe@openembedded.org could be 'contact us' email |
| 09:06.27 | ade|desk | hrw|work: sounds like a good idea |
| 09:06.57 | ade|desk | seems so silly that the two projects have fallen out |
| 09:07.01 | ade|desk | shame |
| 09:08.06 | hrw|work | ade|desk: @lists.openembedded.org show exactly what kind of address it is. commits@ devel@ |
| 09:08.40 | ade|desk | indeed |
| 09:09.14 | zwelch | koen: and that oe@handhelds.org gets a copy of NEW bugs hosted on their bug tracking system... since i just subscribed today, i haven't concluded whether or not the OE system does the same thing but in a different time zone |
| 09:09.55 | ade|desk | but having said that , wasn't one of the primary things for the list to have oe@ to be for dev and users else the devs don't answer user emails :/ |
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| 09:11.36 | zwelch | and since i submitted a patch for libtool-native to the bugs.oe.org tracker, it was disappointing not to seem my bug getting the same level of nagging/attention ;) |
| 09:12.21 | zwelch | incidentally, who should i bother about getting that one included :) |
| 09:12.31 | hrw|work | zwelch: we used to have bugsquashing days |
| 09:12.47 | zwelch | i would love to help organize such again |
| 09:14.01 | zwelch | there are other purposes such focused efforts can be used for: documentation, version bumping.... things that benefit from lots of hands taking a relatively hands-on approach to fixing issues that affect the entire tree |
| 09:15.39 | koen | zwelch: that patch is already in :) |
| 09:17.05 | hrw|work | koen: then WHY no info in BT? |
| 09:17.20 | koen | hrw|work: ? |
| 09:17.27 | zwelch | where did it go in? :/ why didn't CIA report it here? |
| 09:17.33 | koen | it's looks mightily resolved over here :) |
| 09:17.50 | hrw|work | ah. |
| 09:18.05 | koen | it's in monotone.openembedded.org - org.openembedded.dev |
| 09:18.13 | koen | (since 5 minutes ago) |
| 09:18.38 | zwelch | :-p |
| 09:18.48 | zwelch | nice work :) |
| 09:19.12 | koen | your bug reminded my to fix some stuff in an other branch |
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| 09:19.53 | eFfeM | j #openslug |
| 09:20.06 | koen | good morning eFfeM |
| 09:20.07 | hrw|work | koen: 1.5M larger are spitz images |
| 09:20.18 | eFfeM | hi koen |
| 09:20.31 | koen | hrw|work: right, my ipaq kernels build everything and the kitchensync :) |
| 09:20.49 | koen | so that is > 1.5M |
| 09:21.03 | hrw|work | need to patch kernel too |
| 09:21.39 | koen | eFfeM: judging from 2.6.18-rc1 thumb is broken in 2.6.17, so that could explain the ucslugc problems |
| 09:21.58 | koen | hrw|work: if it's only 1.5M akita could have those as well |
| 09:22.17 | koen | I'm surprised CoreDump|home didn't think of this :) |
| 09:23.02 | eFfeM | koen, strange... if there is asm in a file I can imagine it is incorrect, but I fail to see how a kernel (or C code) can break the code generation of a compiler |
| 09:23.29 | hrw|work | koen: 1.5M tarball is larger - how much it will take on device? |
| 09:23.36 | koen | eFfeM: ah, it seems that are multiple problems |
| 09:23.45 | eFfeM | btw is it ok if /etc/ld.so.conf does not contain /lib or /usr/lib ? |
| 09:23.57 | koen | eFfeM: iirc those are in by default |
| 09:23.57 | eFfeM | koen do you have a url or so ? |
| 09:24.10 | eFfeM | ah, ok |
| 09:24.12 | koen | eFfeM: see effem-log |
| 09:24.33 | eFfeM | good. wasn;t that far yet (my day just started :-) |
| 09:24.53 | hrw|work | koen: lets check akita.. |
| 09:25.02 | koen | eFfeM: http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/pavel/zaurus.git;a=commit;h=5247593c9634309d1b9f7b549495b8e5ad521688 |
| 09:25.06 | zwelch | koen: is it possible that your last commit didn't get reported by CIA because it created a second head? after updating, mt update is giving me yours and xora's last commit as candidates... |
| 09:25.15 | eFfeM | also looking at the root cause for Couldn't find shared library provider for libc.so.6 |
| 09:25.43 | koen | zwelch: the merge should also be there |
| 09:26.28 | zwelch | is it possible for me to have synced in between your commit and the following merge? |
| 09:27.49 | zwelch | because sure enough, another pull fixed it :) |
| 09:28.01 | koen | :) |
| 09:28.22 | eFfeM | koen, checked the url, this one basically causes system calls to work. However the problem I had was that invalid asm was generated. didn't even get to building ... |
| 09:28.45 | koen | eFfeM: that is indeed a different problem |
| 09:29.15 | koen | there were a few minutes between the commit and the merge |
| 09:29.43 | eFfeM | there was a reference to PIC related code, but according so someone here this was already fixed a while ago |
| 09:29.52 | eFfeM | might dig into this later |
| 09:30.04 | CIA-2 | 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r349030d4... 10/classes/ (base.bbclass package.bbclass): base.bbclass, package.bbclass: shuffle around tasks to make staging run after packaging |
| 09:30.08 | CIA-2 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r41c57842... 10/packages/libtool/libtool-native_1.5.10.bb: libtool-native: stage libltl files, courtesy Zachary T Welch, closes #1157 |
| 09:30.16 | zwelch | hehe |
| 09:30.34 | koen | I was about to kick the ciabot |
| 09:30.48 | zwelch | i am _so_ in the right career ;) |
| 09:37.39 | eFfeM | hm, where am I supposed to find ipkg_build |
| 09:38.07 | eFfeM | s/_/-/ |
| 09:38.13 | koen | eFfeM: ipkg-utils(-native) |
| 09:38.48 | eFfeM | ok, ipkg whatprovides ipkg-build didn't find it, thanks |
| 09:39.18 | hrw|work | koen: 2.5M of flash is used by kernel modules |
| 09:39.24 | hrw|work | extra 2.5 |
| 09:40.08 | koen | that's a bit much |
| 09:40.46 | koen | it that case I'd say 'just ship usbnet, rtl8150 and pegasus' |
| 09:40.57 | koen | that should satisfy the usb-ethernet people |
| 09:41.10 | koen | and maybe the zd wifi driver |
| 09:41.21 | hrw|work | I'm writing to oz-devel |
| 09:45.14 | zwelch | so, i'm discovering that refactoring .bb functionality into a new bbclass is non-trivial |
| 09:45.21 | koen | let's hope gmane doesn't take hours to deliver that message |
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| 09:45.32 | hrw|work | koen: want cc? |
| 09:45.42 | koen | hrw|work: nah, I can wait :) |
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| 09:46.15 | koen | I dislike getting private copies of mailinglists I'm subscribed to |
| 09:46.28 | koen | ~lart people that use 'reply-all' |
| 09:46.34 | hrw|work | ko |
| 09:46.36 | koen | ibot: botsnack |
| 09:46.36 | ibot | aw, gee, koen |
| 09:47.00 | koen | that's the downside of gmane, I can't set a reply-to header |
| 09:55.34 | eFfeM | have been googling and learned that the msg |
| 09:55.35 | eFfeM | NOTE: Couldn't find shared library provider for libc.so.6 |
| 09:55.41 | eFfeM | is rather harmless |
| 09:55.52 | eFfeM | however would like to know if there is a way around this |
| 09:57.09 | RP | koen: You could fix your mail filter rules ;-) |
| 09:57.17 | eFfeM | koen, ipkg-utils did the trick for me, had to use --force-overwrite because both ipkg-utils and ipkg-link provide ipkg-link |
| 09:57.26 | koen | RP: that's a bit hard on nntp lists |
| 09:58.32 | RP | koen: Adding a filter to your email to filter any copies that were sent to the list address and your personal one isn't possible? |
| 09:59.09 | koen | sure that's possible |
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| 09:59.30 | koen | that doesn't change the fact that people should click reply-all everytime they get mail :) |
| 09:59.34 | koen | ehm |
| 09:59.38 | koen | shouldn't |
| 09:59.55 | RP | koen: Personally, I find two copies useful as I don't read every message to every list I'm on |
| 10:00.01 | RP | hi zecke |
| 10:00.20 | koen | hey zecke |
| 10:00.34 | RP | koen: and if somene dislikes it, they do have the option of filtering... |
| 10:01.23 | zwelch | yeah, the problem is that some people do not read the list; a reply to all covers everyone, but reply to the list covers only those that follow the list |
| 10:01.38 | koen | yeah, I'll proably start sending mail with a non-existant address |
| 10:01.50 | zwelch | that said, i'll be sure to trim you from any threads :) |
| 10:02.02 | koen | or make a rule that mails reply-all people with "don't reply-all me" |
| 10:02.47 | koen | I usually press reply-all and remove all addresses that I know that are subscribed |
| 10:02.56 | koen | not 100% foolproof |
| 10:03.02 | zwelch | that becomes a general selection problem of "don't reply to koen if he will receive it through one of these means" |
| 10:03.09 | hrw|work | RP: did you saw recent pavel patch for collie charging? |
| 10:04.02 | zwelch | and yeah, i use the same heuristic; the question is, how do we teach our mailers to do that? ;) |
| 10:04.42 | RP | hrw|work: The series of four patches which annoyed me as they were badly thought out? |
| 10:05.16 | koen | hrw|work: did you notice the locomo bits in 2.6.18-rc1? |
| 10:05.40 | RP | koen: If you send an auto response, I'd just filter it out ;-) |
| 10:05.53 | koen | :) |
| 10:06.33 | hrw|work | RP: that one is not yet commented by you |
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| 10:07.36 | mickey|thesis | morning |
| 10:07.55 | RP | hrw|work: Right. I guess I should ack it. It stikes me as hacks on top of more hacks but what can I do... |
| 10:08.03 | RP | hi mickey|thesis |
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| 10:09.37 | hrw|work | hi mickey|thesis |
| 10:15.31 | CIA-2 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rf3b9f2a0... 10/packages/freetype/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 10:15.31 | CIA-2 | freetype-native_2.2.1.bb, freetype_2.2.1.bb : new versions of stable |
| 10:15.31 | CIA-2 | I did these when trying to track down problems with alignment errors so |
| 10:15.31 | CIA-2 | I might as well check them in. |
| 10:15.31 | CIA-2 | DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" for now as these are pretty core and could |
| 10:15.31 | CIA-2 | do with review. |
| 10:19.21 | koen | oooh |
| 10:19.49 | koen | mickey|thesis: what about 'pretty-core' as a name for the stable branch? |
| 10:20.05 | hrw|work | koen: .dev .stable |
| 10:20.15 | hrw|work | clean names are better |
| 10:20.48 | hrw|work | RP: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20424 |
| 10:20.59 | zecke | anyone feels like sending the reminder about going readonly soon? |
| 10:21.39 | XorA | zecke: good plan, I had forgotten |
| 10:23.06 | mickey|thesis | koen: *nod* |
| 10:23.08 | mickey|thesis | ;) |
| 10:23.24 | mickey|thesis | zecke: i can do that. |
| 10:23.51 | zecke | mickey|thesis: oh well, we have until the 13th |
| 10:24.28 | mickey|thesis | ok, then I'll send it on 13th |
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| 10:24.52 | zecke | mickey|thesis: the good thing is. We can exploit any stock Qt and Qtopia phone |
| 10:25.04 | zecke | mickey|thesis: I have at least three different working mechanisms |
| 10:25.24 | zecke | mickey|thesis: I'm sure Operators will love this, specially because patches have been send years ago... |
| 10:32.27 | mickey|thesis | uh oh... |
| 10:32.31 | mickey|thesis | btw. |
| 10:32.47 | mickey|thesis | any connections to ROAD still open? I'm a bit worried it's still not out. |
| 10:32.54 | RP | hrw|work: replied |
| 10:34.34 | koen | mickey|thesis: a new thought for a phone gui: "say no to scrollbars in portrait mode" |
| 10:35.49 | mickey|thesis | koen: ya, we need some dogmas. Did you read my post to ZUG in response to amrein? |
| 10:36.05 | koen | mickey|thesis: yes |
| 10:36.20 | koen | let's start a research institute ;) |
| 10:36.39 | kergoth | hey all |
| 10:36.45 | koen | hey kergoth |
| 10:37.00 | mickey|thesis | yo kergie! |
| 10:37.02 | koen | isn't it fricking early in AZ? |
| 10:37.11 | RP | morning kergoth |
| 10:37.19 | mickey|thesis | koen: *nod* I'm working on that. give me two years and then let's see. how far are you from graduating? |
| 10:37.22 | kergoth | fricking late, actually |
| 10:37.24 | kergoth | 3:45am |
| 10:37.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 10:37.40 | koen | mickey|thesis: ~2.5 years |
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| 10:37.50 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 10:38.13 | florian_kc | how is the setting for BINARY_LOCALE_ARCHES supposed to look if i want to have de, en, fr utf8 locales? |
| 10:39.34 | RP | florian_kc: You can't limit the locales that are generated atm - its all or nothing |
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| 10:39.51 | hrw|work | and we have fscked utf8 generation iirc |
| 10:39.52 | florian_kc | uh |
| 10:39.54 | ade|desk | RP: i thought you had a patch for that, no ? |
| 10:40.11 | RP | http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/glibc_limit_locale-r1.patch |
| 10:40.18 | RP | sort of works :-/ |
| 10:40.31 | koen | iirc you can choose which locales end up in the image |
| 10:40.34 | RP | (its an updated verison of the really old one that was around) |
| 10:40.45 | RP | IMAGE_LINGUAS |
| 10:40.55 | koen | ah |
| 10:41.03 | koen | IMAGE, not IMG |
| 10:41.11 | koen | that's why it didn't show ip in grep |
| 10:41.15 | koen | up* |
| 10:41.42 | zecke | mickey|thesis: no, not much |
| 10:41.51 | ade|desk | use uclibc and you don't have these problems with generating :) |
| 10:45.19 | florian_kc | RP: okay, many thanks |
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| 11:17.05 | zecke | woglinde: hey |
| 11:17.10 | woglinde | he zecke |
| 11:17.20 | woglinde | zecke are you at the university? |
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| 11:18.20 | zecke | woglinde: tomorrow, I will be |
| 11:18.24 | zecke | woglinde: how is your son? |
| 11:18.52 | woglinde | fine |
| 11:19.05 | woglinde | yesterday he has the first "wachstumschub" |
| 11:19.13 | woglinde | so it was a little bit stress |
| 11:21.14 | katossi | zecke: hi ! |
| 11:21.37 | hrw|work | woglinde: wachwhat/ |
| 11:21.38 | hrw|work | ? |
| 11:21.45 | woglinde | hrw hm |
| 11:21.49 | woglinde | growsoemthing |
| 11:21.59 | woglinde | he needed more food to grow fast |
| 11:22.00 | hrw|work | ah |
| 11:22.07 | woglinde | dontknow the english word |
| 11:22.27 | hrw|work | woglinde: no problem - I do not know this kind of dictionary too |
| 11:22.29 | ade|desk | growth spurt ? |
| 11:22.38 | woglinde | ade hm maybee |
| 11:24.01 | woglinde | but after that all was fine |
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| 11:24.25 | woglinde | growth spurt is right |
| 11:24.32 | woglinde | will remember thius |
| 11:25.32 | DPRoldan | is it correct to report OpenZaurus bugs at bugs.openembedded.org, as noted at the #openzaurus topic? The page says to choose between OE and BB bugs only |
| 11:27.05 | KerwoodDerby | DPRoldan: Apparently so, and you should specify the version of OZ you are using in the bug entry form |
| 11:27.52 | DPRoldan | ok, thanks |
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| 11:30.01 | KerwoodDerby | Why would I get "../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/bind.S:5: Error: symbol `__bind' is already defined" when compiling glibc within OE? |
| 11:33.13 | KerwoodDerby | I've deleted the build directory, downloaded a new OE.db and rebuilt from scratch, and I still get this error |
| 11:34.13 | woglinde | kerwood which glibc? |
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| 12:03.59 | CIA-2 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rf3515be6... 10/packages/mplayer/mplayer_1.0pre8.bb: |
| 12:03.59 | CIA-2 | mplayer_1.0pre8.bb : remove dependancy on libungif as this causes an unwanted |
| 12:03.59 | CIA-2 | dependancy on X11. |
| 12:03.59 | CIA-2 | Fix the truetype font handling so we can have subtitles again. This was |
| 12:03.59 | CIA-2 | a silly thinko on my part. |
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| 12:05.46 | hrw|work | XorA: another thing to update? |
| 12:06.03 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r08b99a62... 10/packages/opie-help-en/ (opie-help-en.inc opie-help-en_1.2.2.bb): opie-help-en: PACKAGE_ARCH set to 'all', added empty PN package which depend on help browser |
| 12:07.48 | XorA | hrw|work: only if someone moans about no subtitles :-) |
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| 12:25.41 | koen | monotone: multiple update candidates: |
| 12:25.42 | koen | monotone: 08b99a6246391bc67af5422397346b95d3d3b3e3 hrw@openembedded.org 2006-07-10T11:44:13 |
| 12:25.42 | koen | monotone: f3515be6618dd23c0a5917c27c9607c052d6df83 xora@openembedded.org 2006-07-10T12:02:06 |
| 12:26.17 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r1c094e82... 10/packages/mplayer/mplayer_1.0pre8.bb: mplayer: disabled GIF support - close #1147 |
| 12:26.21 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3ec85f41... 10/packages/opie-help-en/ (opie-help-en.inc opie-help-en_1.2.1.bb): opie-help-en: PACKAGE_ARCH set to 'all', added empty PN package which depend on help browser |
| 12:26.37 | Zero_Chaos | koen: looks like it was hrw's fault.... |
| 12:27.13 | koen | Zero_Chaos: the timestamps don't say when it was pushed to the server |
| 12:27.35 | koen | which makes blaming people a bit harder :) |
| 12:28.30 | Zero_Chaos | koen: I know, but CIA-2 just said hrw pushed an update.... which means it is more likely his fault. |
| 12:28.40 | Zero_Chaos | koen: what do those timestamps mean? |
| 12:29.02 | koen | the timestamps note the commit data |
| 12:29.16 | koen | and I was talking about .dev, not .oz354x |
| 12:29.25 | Zero_Chaos | ahh |
| 12:30.17 | XorA | koen: fixed |
| 12:31.31 | katossi | if I add a package to an image, let's say opie-image, and it's compiled but not included in the image, what am I doing wrong? |
| 12:33.57 | Zero_Chaos | katossi: what section are you adding it to? |
| 12:35.02 | katossi | the real case is I added packages to task-gpe.bb, under gpe-task-apps |
| 12:36.47 | Zero_Chaos | katossi: hmm, never done it with gpe, but I know in opie-image files I had to add an app in several places. One to build, then one to install |
| 12:37.26 | katossi | Zero_Chaos: but it should work as long as the app is in DEPEND and RDEPEND, shouldn't it? |
| 12:37.52 | Zero_Chaos | katossi: no |
| 12:39.00 | katossi | Zero_Chaos: what did you change for the install part? |
| 12:39.19 | Zero_Chaos | katossi: I used opie, but let me take a quick look |
| 12:41.25 | Zero_Chaos | katossi: gpe stuff looks way different than opie, sorry, can't help :-( |
| 12:41.57 | katossi | too bad, anyone with gpe experience? |
| 12:42.39 | RP | Offhand, does anyone know the key combination to boot to the recovery shell on a Z? |
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| 12:46.06 | koen | katossi: make sure you bump the PR of the task package you're altering |
| 12:46.20 | hrw|work | RP: D+B |
| 12:47.36 | katossi | koen: what does that mean exactly? |
| 12:48.27 | koen | that you bump the PR of the task package you are altering |
| 12:48.56 | hrw|work | merged, pushed |
| 12:49.37 | katossi | what I mean is why? what changes does that produce? |
| 12:50.05 | koen | mickey|lunch: another dogma: "persons are first class objects" |
| 12:50.20 | XorA | katossi: otherwise the old version will still be in tmp/deploy/ipk and new dependencies you added wont be used |
| 12:51.13 | katossi | ohh! cached stuff always gives me headaches! so that's why sometimes everything behaves as if I had changed basically nothing |
| 12:54.09 | katossi | koen: thx a lot!! saved me a lot of time |
| 13:02.11 | RP | hrw|work: thanks. Its a long time since I've needed that :) |
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| 13:08.23 | hrw|work | RP: what you fscked? |
| 13:09.48 | RP | hrw|work: No me, trying to help someone else work out why an image doesn't work. Of course I'd forgotten 2.4 can't read 2.6 jffs2 partitions... |
| 13:09.48 | cbrake | hello |
| 13:09.58 | RP | hi cbrake |
| 13:10.00 | koen | hey cbrake |
| 13:10.33 | hrw|work | 16883 hrw 0 0 335m 108m 20m S 15.8 14.4 40:08.10 firefox-bin |
| 13:10.46 | koen | updated zlib is also in 2.6.18rc1 :) |
| 13:10.47 | hrw|work | WHEN firefox will stop leaking... |
| 13:10.55 | koen | hrw|work: when pigs fly |
| 13:10.59 | XorA | hrw|work: when kill -9 firefox-bin |
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| 13:11.58 | hrw|work | 16883 hrw 35 0 185m 56m 16m R 71.4 7.5 40:32.53 firefox-bin |
| 13:12.01 | hrw|work | restarted |
| 13:16.32 | ade|desk | grr fontconfig is not using cross toolchain |
| 13:17.05 | koen | ade|desk: the one XorA added today? |
| 13:17.26 | ade|desk | 2.3.91-r0 |
| 13:17.34 | ade|desk | what did XorA add ? |
| 13:18.25 | koen | 2.3.95 |
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| 13:20.05 | koen | fontconfig-2.3.91/fc-cache/fc-cache.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped |
| 13:20.17 | ade|desk | "This version seems to cure the masses of alignment errors I was getting |
| 13:20.18 | ade|desk | using previous versions." -- cos its using host toolchain and hence linking to host /lib/libc not the arm one he was expecting, sadly the symbols seem to almost match so not so easy to spot |
| 13:20.58 | XorA | ade|desk: I doubt that very much |
| 13:21.10 | koen | http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/fc-o.txt <- output of file |
| 13:21.18 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.18 | ade|desk | | ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:109: undefined reference to `__libc_csu_fini' |
| 13:21.18 | ade|desk | | ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:110: undefined reference to `__libc_csu_init' |
| 13:21.18 | ade|desk | | ../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:119: undefined reference to `__libc_start_main' |
| 13:21.18 | ade|desk | | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 13:21.22 | koen | it uses the host toolchain to compile the stuff it needs to run |
| 13:21.33 | ade|desk | thats hiting the wrong linker |
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| 13:23.47 | ade|desk | koen: sorry why is it using doing this for fc-case.0,fc-lang.o and fc-glyphname ? |
| 13:24.07 | koen | ade|desk: it runs those during build.... |
| 13:24.39 | ade|desk | thats a bit naff |
| 13:24.44 | koen | it is |
| 13:25.12 | Laibsch | I have moved OE to another computer. Now again, no more bitbakeing: http://pastebin.ca/84045 and http://pastebin.ca/84046 |
| 13:25.12 | Laibsch | I completely removed everything in tmp and retried. The problem is still there. |
| 13:25.19 | koen | almost 3600 .bb files |
| 13:25.50 | Laibsch | koen: There are a couple of Japanese bb files waiting in the tracker if you want to push the limit. |
| 13:27.02 | ade|desk | koen: i remember the days when kergoth was adding 2 or 3 files a day , so sub ~100 i guess |
| 13:29.42 | hrw|work | RP: I remember 2.6.5 D: |
| 13:30.01 | RP | hrw|work: I'm not sure that had a .bb though ;-) |
| 13:30.15 | RP | hrw|work: I still have the patches... |
| 13:30.23 | hrw|work | RP: http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/search/?expr=2.6.5&search=ChangeSet+comments |
| 13:30.34 | hrw|work | "clean up 2.6.5 .oe file and apply Richard Purdie's patch" |
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| 13:30.59 | ade|desk | i miss BK |
| 13:31.01 | hrw|work | ChangeSet1.1165.1.2 |
| 13:31.02 | hrw|work | upgrade kernel to 2.6.5-jl1 |
| 13:31.10 | hrw|work | hi france |
| 13:31.18 | Laibsch | Is binutils-cross-2.17 broken? |
| 13:31.20 | mickey|lunch | hmm... cool. those ancient days |
| 13:31.32 | hrw|work | and I remember days when OE images was not usable on collie... |
| 13:31.43 | RP | hrw|work: I must have gained commit rights for 2.6.7 which is what I'm confused with :) |
| 13:32.08 | RP | I like mickeyl's comment about someone needing to update openzaurus.bkbits.net :) |
| 13:32.55 | mickey|thesis | where? :) |
| 13:32.57 | koen | Laibsch: they work fine over here |
| 13:33.20 | koen | Laibsch: you do need glibc 2.4 to use it |
| 13:33.46 | RP | mickey|thesis: Linked off one of the commits hrw posted - you were hinting someone should look after the kernel bk tree. I remember trying and deciding patches were easier |
| 13:33.55 | mickey|thesis | RP: ah right |
| 13:33.59 | Laibsch | The new machine has dapper. The pevisous one was Debian stable. So it should be recent enough. I'll check. |
| 13:34.31 | RP | mickey|thesis: http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/cset%401.1706.47.1 |
| 13:34.52 | mickey|thesis | hehehe |
| 13:35.18 | ade|desk | doh newer fontconfig is the same :( |
| 13:35.20 | koen | Laibsch: glibc 2.4 for your target |
| 13:35.25 | mickey|thesis | RP: it took me a while to get accustomized to that patches workflow. |
| 13:35.44 | mickey|thesis | RP: I love it nowadays though |
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| 13:35.48 | ade|desk | koen: or uclibc svn |
| 13:36.10 | RP | mickey|thesis: It took a while to stabilse but I think it was the right choice - look at the problems Pavel has with his git tree :-/ |
| 13:36.12 | Laibsch | koen: I see. But shouldn't OE take care of building that? |
| 13:36.28 | mickey|thesis | RP: yeah |
| 13:37.12 | koen | Laibsch: OE does what you tell it to do |
| 13:37.38 | RP | mickey|thesis: Its lovely to think that two years on we're in the position we're in :) |
| 13:37.41 | hrw|work | RP: and how awful are his 'broken-out' diffs.. |
| 13:38.09 | RP | hrw|work: exactly |
| 13:38.20 | koen | NOTE: package binutils-cross-2.17-r0: task do_build: completed |
| 13:38.22 | mickey|thesis | RP: no kidding. i can very well remember the pain I felt when me and kergoth were the only ones working on OE |
| 13:38.24 | Laibsch | koen: I said bitbake qpf-unismall and bitbake kaffe-qt |
| 13:39.01 | Laibsch | but no directory containg glibc in tmp |
| 13:39.03 | RP | mickey|thesis: I suspect kergoth will be getting back into things a bit as well which will be good :) |
| 13:39.18 | CIA-2 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r11318244... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom 2006.9: use font tools without alignment traps |
| 13:40.21 | koen | RP: so every OE can take a monthlong holiday while mickey|thesis and kergoth`zzz are slaving away ;) |
| 13:40.32 | koen | for that real vintage development feeling |
| 13:41.00 | mickey|thesis | heh |
| 13:41.28 | ade|desk | only a month :( |
| 13:42.35 | Laibsch | koen: When I say "bitbake glibc" it first tries to build binutils-cross-2.17-r0. Something wrong in the dependencies? |
| 13:42.58 | koen | Laibsch: no, something is probably wrong in your setup |
| 13:43.34 | Laibsch | It was working before. |
| 13:43.45 | Laibsch | Wait, I have an idea what I might have overlooked. |
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| 13:47.06 | zecke | you have updated |
| 13:55.39 | XorA | koen: well thats one way to get review :-) |
| 13:55.59 | koen | XorA: yeah |
| 13:57.48 | Laibsch | koen: My path to OE changed. I was thinking that maybe I had forgotten to change it somewhere. rgrep only returned one instance: MT/debug. Can that have an effect? I ask because I delete all of tmp again since there were some occurences in there as well of the old path. |
| 13:58.03 | Laibsch | So it will be a while before I know if this worked or not. |
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| 14:06.20 | koen | mickey|thesis: thanks for spotting |
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| 14:10.03 | CIA-2 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re0113226... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom 2006.9: make the typo police happy |
| 14:15.18 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:15.53 | koen | hey chouimat |
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| 14:25.11 | mr_nice_slacker | hi all |
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| 15:12.50 | JustinP | koen: thanks for updating e-wm, I wans't aware that we hade u-a for x-window-manager :-) |
| 15:13.24 | koen | JustinP: me neither, till I noticed coredump's checkin :) |
| 15:13.27 | hrw|work | JustinP: its new stuff |
| 15:13.47 | koen | JustinP: I was too lazy to teach entrance new tricks |
| 15:14.57 | JustinP | hrw|work: I noticed a dependency problem with taks-bootstrap for oz 3.5.4.1 |
| 15:15.34 | JustinP | hrw|work: specifically, usbuils and oz-bootsplash are not built from a new tmp |
| 15:16.23 | hrw|work | hmm.. they are in BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS so should be.. |
| 15:16.28 | Laibsc1 | koen: If you have any kind of advice what I should be looking for. I'd be all ears. Compilation failed again. |
| 15:16.51 | JustinP | hrw|work: I have a fix, mind if I push? |
| 15:16.52 | JustinP | hrw|work: or could you rather a patch? (I just add DEPENEDS to match the RDEPENDS) |
| 15:17.25 | hrw|work | JustinP: depends should not be needed rather... |
| 15:17.55 | JustinP | hrw|work: well...they weren't built. and IIRC the oz354x branch doesn't use the auto-RDEPENDS => DEPENDS thing.... |
| 15:18.34 | JustinP | my image built just fine after I added the DEPENDS |
| 15:18.50 | hrw|work | then please patch it |
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| 15:22.08 | hrw|work | JustinP: I sometimes forgot about those DEPENDS<>RDEPENDS.. |
| 15:22.27 | koen | hrw|work is too busy costumizing twm on his Z ;) |
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| 15:23.28 | hrw|work | koen: developing opie-notes using qvfb under x/qt2 running twm is awesome |
| 15:23.45 | koen | :) |
| 15:23.50 | hrw|work | koen: we need gvim |
| 15:24.37 | JustinP | hrw|work: puched |
| 15:24.50 | chouimat | hrw|work: sound cool :) |
| 15:24.51 | hrw|work | thx |
| 15:25.02 | JustinP | hrI'm also noticing some DEPENDS problems with gpe-*something* relying on libtodo. I'll update that as well if I find a fix |
| 15:25.10 | CIA-2 | 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r1a6bbf6b... 10/conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf: openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf: add DEPENDS to match RDEPENDS |
| 15:25.19 | hrw|work | JustinP: gpe-timesheet probably |
| 15:25.56 | JustinP | yeah |
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| 15:35.04 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 15:36.50 | Kristoffer | CoreDump|home, mornin |
| 15:37.27 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
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| 15:38.44 | CoreDump|home | anyone motivated to fix fluxbox NET_WM implementation ( sending _NET_WORKAREA on workarea rezise / xrandr rotation)? |
| 15:39.12 | CoreDump|home | #fluxbox's op is an idiot or I'd go there |
| 15:39.24 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: tried openbox? |
| 15:39.40 | koen | steal code from matchbox/metacity/etc? |
| 15:39.47 | hrw|work | cu |
| 15:40.00 | CoreDump|home | koen: I tried making sense of it and failed =) |
| 15:40.04 | CoreDump|home | hrw|gone: bye |
| 15:40.39 | CIA-2 | 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r5cbb5dff... 10/packages/gpe-timesheet/gpe-timesheet_0.30.bb: gpe-timesheet: add missing libtododb DEPENDS |
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| 15:55.35 | pH5 | hi |
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| 16:02.28 | goxboxlive | will OM/PI be implemented in the dev branch? |
| 16:03.28 | mickey|thesis | unlikely. for the time being, we recommend opie-mail which is the "upstream" version of OM/PI. |
| 16:04.07 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 16:08.30 | koen | mickey|thesis: good thing that OE is mit, if it was gpl, there would have been a OE/PI ;) |
| 16:08.45 | mickey|thesis | koen: heh. most likely, yeah :D |
| 16:09.03 | mickey|thesis | some guys have a tendency to just drag everything GPL into their own tree... |
| 16:09.13 | mickey|thesis | must be some fancy collector's idea or whatever |
| 16:09.41 | koen | *cough* MVista *cough* |
| 16:10.57 | koen | btw: http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine |
| 16:11.01 | koen | more eye-candy |
| 16:11.16 | koen | less scare for managers ;) |
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| 16:12.04 | mickey|thesis | nice work |
| 16:12.28 | koen | wget plugin ; untar :) |
| 16:12.59 | mickey|thesis | drupal plugin? |
| 16:13.24 | zecke | goxboxlive: zautrix is behaving unethical |
| 16:13.36 | koen | mickey|thesis: yes |
| 16:13.41 | koen | ~zautrix |
| 16:13.44 | mickey|thesis | koen: cool. i wish i had something like that for wordpress, i.e. for a better version of http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/musician/chord-pro/ |
| 16:14.02 | mickey|thesis | ~emulate zautrix |
| 16:14.03 | ibot | this is exactly what the GPL is about. grab the stuff and run away |
| 16:14.24 | koen | mickey|thesis: I'm sure wordpress have similar functionality |
| 16:14.31 | zecke | mickey|thesis: well. The GPL is there to stop unethical things like unnecessary forks |
| 16:14.41 | mickey|thesis | zecke: is it? how so? |
| 16:14.59 | zecke | mickey|thesis: the first version of the EMACS License demanded all patches to be send to RMS |
| 16:15.23 | mickey|thesis | well. i guess it boils down to who judges the necessity of a fork. |
| 16:15.28 | CoreDump|home | zecke: nope, the GPL was created to _enable_ forks |
| 16:15.57 | CoreDump|home | don't like what upstream does? just fork the damn thing ;) |
| 16:16.01 | zecke | CoreDump|home: oh well |
| 16:16.14 | zecke | CoreDump|home: I have just finished reading a/the stallman biography |
| 16:16.41 | zecke | CoreDump|home: I can assure you, the GPL was not written to allow stuff like Lucid EMACS |
| 16:16.56 | CoreDump|home | I'm not familiar with that, sorry |
| 16:17.15 | CoreDump|home | but w/o a GPL-type license, forks would be basically impossible |
| 16:17.24 | zecke | CoreDump|home: RMS mastermind of the GPL, would find zautrix's behaviour unethical |
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| 16:17.35 | zecke | CoreDump|home: and RMS did not write the GPL to further unethical behaviour |
| 16:17.45 | zecke | CoreDump|home: so your statement is just plain wrong |
| 16:17.57 | zecke | mickey|thesis: should I send you the book? Do you have time for reading? |
| 16:18.18 | mickey|thesis | zecke: no time atm. can you keep it until we meet later this year? |
| 16:18.36 | zecke | mickey|thesis: sure, I think I will ask eilers |
| 16:18.51 | CoreDump|home | ~praise _law_ for adding multi-wm support to gpe-login |
| 16:18.53 | ibot | All hail _law_ for adding multi-wm support to gpe-login! |
| 16:20.32 | mr_nice_slacker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.47 | mr_nice_slacker | sorry |
| 16:21.21 | CoreDump|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.25 | CoreDump|home | oh sorry =) |
| 16:21.57 | mr_nice_slacker | *g |
| 16:22.25 | CoreDump|home | and my all-time-favorite: |
| 16:22.36 | CoreDump|home | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.57 | mr_nice_slacker | hehe |
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| 16:26.34 | koen | grrr |
| 16:26.39 | koen | NOTE: package mysql-native-4.1.18-r1: task do_fetch: failed |
| 16:27.38 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke: i unfortune have killed my working mq200 on your 2.6 Kernel by pass console=/dev/console to the kernel. 2.4 mq200 is working as normal. now i try to figgure out what console=/dev/console made with my SIMpad. I will report if i could find some answer. |
| 16:29.59 | zecke | no idea |
| 16:30.47 | mr_nice_slacker | zecke:np |
| 16:32.07 | mickey|thesis | console=/dev/console looks bogus anyway |
| 16:32.16 | mickey|thesis | console=tty1 makes more sense iMO |
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| 16:48.49 | bronson | I'm getting 'Error: symbol __bind is already defined' while compiling glibc. |
| 16:49.10 | woglinde | bronson hm you are not alone |
| 16:49.21 | bronson | Is DISTRO=openzaurus-unstable not a good idea? |
| 16:49.40 | zecke | bronson: did you google for this error? |
| 16:49.41 | bronson | woglinde, well, that's something at least. |
| 16:49.48 | bronson | zecke, I did. Found one thing relevant: |
| 16:49.58 | zecke | bronson: is that umamumba or mumba platform? |
| 16:50.05 | bronson | http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/71/7132.html |
| 16:51.33 | bronson | zecke, umamumba? mumba? |
| 16:52.14 | zecke | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20792 ?? |
| 16:52.55 | zecke | bronson: well. You come here, specify no information and I think you expect an answer |
| 16:53.00 | zecke | bronson: this can't work |
| 16:53.38 | bronson | zecke, I'm trying to understand what you said. |
| 16:53.45 | bronson | What's mumba? |
| 16:53.53 | zecke | bronson: Is that your TARGET_ARCH? |
| 16:54.03 | CosmicPenguin | heh - umamumba.. :) |
| 16:54.18 | bronson | zecke, no, it's arm. |
| 16:54.22 | zecke | CoreDump|home: hey, may I message you? |
| 16:54.32 | zecke | bronson: what version of gcc, glibc, binutils |
| 16:54.33 | CoreDump|home | fire away |
| 16:54.46 | zecke | bronson: did it ever work |
| 16:54.56 | bronson | zecke, no, this is my first attempt. |
| 16:55.02 | CosmicPenguin | bronson: pst - what he's looking for is a full bug report. |
| 16:55.13 | zecke | CosmicPenguin: may I message you? |
| 16:55.22 | CosmicPenguin | sure |
| 16:56.31 | zecke | bronson: okay. Could you take a look and see what versions of binutils and gcc it build |
| 16:57.01 | bronson | zecke, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627, binutils-2.17 -- all pulled in via openzaurus-unstable distro. |
| 16:57.26 | bronson | (took me a bit to figure out how to answer that :) |
| 16:57.44 | zecke | bronson: hehe |
| 16:59.01 | eFfeM | anyone around having knowledge on usb audio? Tried to reinstall my audio dongle, thought I had done everything ok, but speakertest gives me |
| 16:59.04 | eFfeM | Broken configuration for playback: no configurations available: Invalid argument |
| 16:59.04 | eFfeM | Setting of hwparams failed: Invalid argument |
| 16:59.26 | eFfeM | the card is there /dev/snd/* is there /proc/asound lists the card |
| 17:00.04 | eFfeM | i don't need oss modules, do I? |
| 17:06.28 | zecke | sorry need to head home |
| 17:07.15 | woglinde | bye zecke |
| 17:07.49 | eFfeM | bye |
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| 18:18.32 | m4gnet | there is no way to build synergy against oz 3.5.4.1 default X ? |
| 18:20.04 | JustinP | m4gnet: last I checked you couldn't build synergy against diet-x11, no |
| 18:20.16 | JustinP | m4gnet: as long as you build full x it will work, though |
| 18:20.44 | m4gnet | Id like to keep a light X. |
| 18:21.55 | m4gnet | I tried to compile it on the Z, all dependencies where ok, but I had compilations errors :( |
| 18:24.21 | woglinde | hi kergoth |
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| 18:47.38 | JustinP | m4gnet: yeah, there are pieces missing |
| 18:49.02 | m4gnet | too bad synergy would have been nice. |
| 18:59.01 | kergoth | what new syntax has been added to .bb since i was around? 'require'.. anything else? |
| 18:59.43 | RP | kergoth: I'm not aware of any changes other than that |
| 18:59.56 | kergoth | k, just making sure the vim syntax file is up to date :) |
| 19:01.56 | koen | kergoth: .= an =. |
| 19:02.08 | koen | s/an/and/ |
| 19:03.31 | woglinde | hi koen |
| 19:03.40 | kergoth | those are raw concatenation, right? lacking the space seperator? |
| 19:04.22 | koen | kergoth: iirc yes |
| 19:04.22 | kergoth | k |
| 19:04.28 | koen | kergoth: pb_ updated the bitbake manual after adding those |
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| 19:11.23 | kergoth | heh, i sure didnt know vim that well when i did this syntax file |
| 19:11.34 | kergoth | i should redo this now that i do evil things with vim on a regular basis |
| 19:11.55 | koen | kergoth: btw, do you have a monotone key already? |
| 19:12.07 | kergoth | i dont think so, i'll generate one |
| 19:12.09 | kergoth | where should i send it? |
| 19:12.17 | kergoth | i used to, but its probably long gone |
| 19:13.00 | koen | mickey@vanille.de and koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl |
| 19:13.10 | koen | let me check if your old key is in the .db |
| 19:13.44 | koen | it's not in the main db |
| 19:13.54 | koen | so kergoth@openembedded.org should be safe |
| 19:14.47 | kergoth | i could be crazy and generate one using a real email |
| 19:14.50 | kergoth | craaaazy |
| 19:17.21 | JustinP | it has to be @openembedded.org |
| 19:19.45 | kergoth | that's silly, at best. |
| 19:19.51 | koen | JustinP: take a look at http://www.openembedded.org/the-people-behind-openembedded |
| 19:20.14 | koen | now tell me all keys end with @openembedded.org |
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| 19:20.52 | JustinP | koen: or nslu2 |
| 19:20.59 | JustinP | koen: I was told I had to have @oe |
| 19:21.51 | JustinP | I was just mentioning the policy that I was told back in the day |
| 19:22.22 | kergoth | s/policy/convention/ ;) |
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| 19:22.44 | koen | I'd accept cris@n00b.net as a key for kergoth :p |
| 19:23.19 | kergoth | hahah |
| 19:23.31 | kergoth | hmm, does CIA in here not notify for the bitbake repository? |
| 19:23.44 | koen | kergoth: zecke messed up the trigger iirc |
| 19:23.51 | koen | kergoth: feel free to fix it |
| 19:24.13 | kergoth | k |
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| 19:24.53 | kergoth | at any rate, svn up bitbake && cp -av bitbake/contrib/vim/* ~/.vim/ |
| 19:25.04 | kergoth | er, s/d$// |
| 19:29.44 | kergoth | k sent the pubkey |
| 19:30.27 | koen | craaaaazy |
| 19:30.42 | kergoth | :P |
| 19:31.04 | kergoth | feels good to be playing with oe and bitbake again. |
| 19:32.22 | kergoth | hahah |
| 19:32.31 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth is back in the house |
| 19:32.33 | CosmicPenguin | hide your newbies |
| 19:32.43 | kergoth | i already started the "alright, who broke XYZ?" ones a few weeks ago :P |
| 19:33.02 | RP | kergoth: true :) |
| 19:33.04 | kergoth | to which people respond "you can do that?" |
| 19:33.31 | RP | kergoth: It was more "someone would do that?" :) |
| 19:33.40 | kergoth | hahah, true that |
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| 19:34.32 | RP | kergoth: At least one of those problems is outstanding and needs a total rewrite of the dependency code (although the symptom is fixed in OE but not in poky) |
| 19:35.12 | kergoth | ow |
| 19:35.50 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
| 19:35.55 | kergoth | hey chouimat |
| 19:36.10 | RP | (the autoconf automake build order issue - turns out to be very painful in the bitbake) |
| 19:39.02 | koen | CosmicPenguin: ray is free to come up with a new description for that page :) |
| 19:39.50 | CosmicPenguin | koen: heh - I'll let him know |
| 19:39.52 | CosmicPenguin | but it sounds good to me |
| 19:41.26 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:45.29 | koen | done |
| 19:47.45 | zecke | RP: OT: my poky builds do work :) |
| 19:49.01 | zecke | bronson: did you get help? |
| 19:49.27 | bronson | zecke, sort of... |
| 19:49.43 | bronson | I'm re-doing with or.gopenembedded.oz354x instead of .dev. |
| 19:49.52 | bronson | I think I should have started with that branch anyway. |
| 19:49.57 | JustinP | bronson: yes |
| 19:50.19 | zecke | bronson: I'm still interested in finding the issue :) |
| 19:50.26 | bronson | So, while I think the problem still exists, it's not blocking me... |
| 19:50.35 | koen | zecke: not locking down binutils version |
| 19:50.46 | bronson | zecke, me too. I think I'm going to run into it again later on today... |
| 19:50.52 | zecke | bronson: so if you find some time, I would appreciate if we look into it |
| 19:50.52 | koen | zecke: binutils >=2.16 only works with glibc 2.4 |
| 19:51.04 | zecke | koen: oh well |
| 19:51.24 | koen | zecke: a patch exists, see launchpad |
| 19:53.07 | bronson | koen, would a more proper fix be locking down glibc, or would it be applying the patch? |
| 19:53.42 | koen | I think applying the patch would be the best option |
| 19:54.28 | RP | zecke: excellent :) |
| 19:55.14 | zecke | RP: every 20 builds I start from scratch |
| 19:57.30 | RP | zecke: Is that a sustainable machine load? |
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| 20:00.41 | zecke | RP: oh well, it is a P4 machine |
| 20:00.54 | zecke | RP: if we get too high load, I will switch over to a dual xeon in the rack :} |
| 20:01.37 | RP | zecke: Sounds like a nice rack to have access to :) |
| 20:01.54 | zecke | RP: I'm more scared this firewall facist will play with the firewall again... |
| 20:02.20 | zecke | yeah we have some nice spare hardware |
| 20:02.50 | koen | zecke: the budget needed to be spent completely? |
| 20:03.36 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.34 | JustinP | "stress testing" |
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| 20:07.04 | koen | zecke: ah |
| 20:07.15 | koen | zecke: like the sgi altix and sunfire next to ewi546 |
| 20:07.34 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.34 | koen | mostly used for freakishly fast pdflatex sessions :) |
| 20:07.59 | zecke | http://f10.putfile.com/7/19005024357.gif |
| 20:08.00 | zecke | lol |
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| 20:09.14 | zecke | RP: I will start .oz354x and .dev builds as well |
| 20:10.32 | koen | zecke: what's the status of setting up tinderbox at oe.org? |
| 20:11.30 | zecke | status: *busy* |
| 20:11.56 | zecke | koen: I would like to get some major improvements for tinderbox first |
| 20:12.13 | zecke | if we have a pressing need, we could do the setup now |
| 20:12.19 | koen | can the tinderbox page be 'embedded'? |
| 20:12.46 | koen | or do I have to annoy hrw again by writing atrocious css and php? |
| 20:13.52 | zecke | you can put it in a frame? :} |
| 20:14.16 | zecke | hrw: *sorry*, I'm stuck with html 3.x |
| 20:14.47 | koen | yeah and put a xhtml header on top :) |
| 20:14.50 | JustinP | yay, packaging locales now |
| 20:18.18 | koen | c# is pretty fun to use |
| 20:18.54 | zecke | koen: yeah, sadly mono has issues with the System.Drawing class |
| 20:19.04 | koen | zecke: never used that |
| 20:19.23 | koen | zecke: I just patched dashboard to work with my LFS install :) |
| 20:19.39 | zecke | 'layout' in Windows Forms is scary |
| 20:19.44 | zecke | worse than java |
| 20:19.51 | koen | zecke: and those were accepted upstream :) |
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| 20:28.32 | koen | RP: evil gnomes |
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| 20:35.58 | pb_ | hi kergoth, zecke |
| 20:42.32 | koen | hmm |
| 20:42.36 | koen | slow news day |
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| 20:43.29 | Hrw|tosa2 | hi |
| 20:43.53 | koen | hey Hrw|tosa2 |
| 20:46.14 | Hrw|tosa2 | dd checking floppies... |
| 20:47.06 | hvontres|work | hey, everone.. Does anybody know anything about this "ixoth" guy who posted here on saturday? |
| 20:47.21 | hvontres|work | I would like to compare notes on poodle sound stuff, |
| 20:48.15 | koen | ~seen ixoth |
| 20:48.29 | ibot | ixoth <n=ixoth@pppoe-158.12.110.89-adsl.spbnit.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 22h 57m 15s ago, saying: 'goodbye everyone, have to go'. |
| 20:48.37 | RP | I should really have a look at poodle sound as it shouldn't be that difficult to sort out if you understand ASoC... |
| 20:50.07 | Hrw|tosa2 | poodle use i2s insteasd of scoop iirc? |
| 20:50.35 | hvontres|work | RP: I looked at pxa_i2s.c and pxa_i2s_corgi form the 2.4 tree.. It looks like the two main diffenences are 1) Poodle uses locomo instead of scoop and 2) The headphones are either on or off, no micorphone stuff to mess with |
| 20:51.43 | hvontres|work | those files are the only diffenrence on the 2.4 side, BTW |
| 20:51.58 | RP | hvontres|work: I think poodle has a built in mic? |
| 20:52.41 | RP | hvontres|work: I guess the locomo bits are the problem? I know little about that bit of it :-/ |
| 20:56.16 | hrw | ~lart kfloppy |
| 20:56.36 | zecke | +nite |
| 20:58.51 | hrw | n8 Zero_Chaos |
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| 21:17.06 | CosmicPenguin | someday I need to learn how to use VI better |
| 21:17.35 | hrw | CosmicPenguin: I feel it from time to time... |
| 21:17.59 | hrw | why there was noone familiar with Vi when I started using unix.... 2 years of pico... |
| 21:19.37 | hrw | KerwoodDerby: teco? |
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| 21:26.40 | JustinP | emacs |
| 21:30.05 | hrw | RP: hrw-pcmcia-ids-r2.patch was sent to ide people? |
| 21:36.53 | hvontres|work | JustinP: But vi is ALLWAYS there :) |
| 21:39.27 | JustinP | hvontres|work: yeah. Thankfully I started with vi(m) ;-) |
| 21:40.31 | hvontres|work | JustinP: Lucky you.. started in '90 with vi and a dumb terminal..;( |
| 21:41.52 | hrw | RP: I plan to sync .dev kernels with .oz354x ones |
| 21:42.00 | hvontres|work | RP: Was that podle sound info any good? I got kicked off right after I posted :( |
| 21:43.18 | hrw | RP: 2.6.17+git is not synced at all with .17? |
| 21:43.41 | RP | hrw: Not by me |
| 21:44.15 | hrw | ok |
| 21:44.36 | RP | hrw: Sorry, I mean the ide patch wasn't sent by me |
| 21:44.46 | RP | .17+git should be synced with .17 |
| 21:45.16 | hrw | git does not have squashfs enabled for example |
| 21:45.27 | RP | hrw: They should be in sync |
| 21:45.57 | RP | hvontres|work: Yes, its useful to know. I'll set a poodle build going and see if I can get poodle a little further along |
| 21:46.36 | hvontres|work | RP: thanks for the help. Let me know if you want help testing :) |
| 21:46.56 | CIA-2 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2d36b229... 10/packages/ (polypaudio/polypaudio_0.8.bb pulseaudio/pulseaudio_0.9.2.bb): |
| 21:46.56 | CIA-2 | polypaudio 0.8 upgrade to 0.9.2 |
| 21:46.56 | CIA-2 | NOTE: polypaudio is now pulseaudio |
| 21:46.56 | CIA-2 | first step in fine granular plugin packaging |
| 21:47.04 | hrw | RP: so I will look at it |
| 21:47.39 | RP | hrw: If you see any other differences, feel free to sync them up as they should be the same |
| 21:48.01 | hrw | RP: ide-cs patch can go directly to lkml? |
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| 21:50.06 | RP | hrw: I guess so, maybe cc the pcmcia maintainer |
| 21:50.45 | hrw | ok |
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| 22:08.45 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra347a1a8... 10/packages/linux/ (8 files in 3 dirs): linux-openzaurus: enable USB Audio for 2.6.16/2.6.17 (taken from .oz354x) |
| 22:20.28 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6a2a6fd5... 10/packages/linux/ (9 files in 4 dirs): linux-openzaurus: added PCMCIA Id for 8GB CF card |
| 22:20.32 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r10c4b592... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files): linux-openzaurus: fixed hrw-pcmcia-ids patch PV |
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| 22:31.05 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re6023258... 10/packages/corsair/ (files/corsair-024.patch corsair_0.2.0.bb corsair_0.2.5.bb): corsair: upgraded to 0.2.5 |
| 22:37.12 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3c0eda63... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus: added PCMCIA Id for 8GB CF card |
| 22:37.14 | CIA-2 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3b51d223... 10/packages/corsair/ (files/corsair-024.patch corsair_0.2.0.bb corsair_0.2.5.bb): corsair: upgraded to 0.2.5 |
| 22:38.45 | hrw | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/07/10/tosa-and-26-kernel/ |
| 22:38.47 | hrw | cu |
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| 23:39.52 | zwelch | anyone around that can help me debug a new bbclass? |
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| 23:40.39 | zwelch | i tried to refactor things from using a .inc to a .bbclass, but 1) it didn't work as expected and 2) it didn't fail to give me any proper indication of #1 |
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