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| 01:21.56 | CIA-9 | linux-titan-sh4 2.6.16: Disable IP auto configuration for the kernel. This |
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| 07:14.28 | koen | good morning all |
| 07:14.46 | NAbyss | Ello |
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| 07:48.02 | XorA | morning |
| 07:48.15 | poli | morning |
| 07:49.05 | minipanda | hvontres around? |
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| 07:50.13 | poli | zecke: remember the ipkg segfault problem I told you yesterday? koen's last commit solved it. :) |
| 07:51.38 | zecke | poli: you must feel bad to not have given back, don't worry dude, your next chanche will arise |
| 07:52.09 | poli | zecke: I am quite anxious, I must confess. *chuckles* |
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| 07:58.06 | koen | hrw|gone: I pushed the ipkg-utils patch |
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| 08:15.22 | CIA-9 | 03dirk 07org.oe.dev * re98a74fb... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:15.23 | CIA-9 | linux-openzaurus_2.6.17: Update tosa |
| 08:15.23 | CIA-9 | - update tosa patches to 2.6.17 |
| 08:15.23 | CIA-9 | - add ASoC 0.10 patch |
| 08:15.23 | CIA-9 | - update kexec patch to remove warnings |
| 08:15.23 | CIA-9 | - refresh collie config |
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| 08:19.53 | CIA-9 | 03dirk 07org.oe.dev * r75ab5e8a... 10/packages/wlan-ng/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:19.53 | CIA-9 | wlan-ng-modules_0.2.3: fix to compile with 2.6.17 |
| 08:19.53 | CIA-9 | - add patch to compile against 2.6.17 kernel |
| 08:19.53 | CIA-9 | - disable plx, pcmcia and pci driver because of subsystem api changes |
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| 08:26.04 | do13_ | morning all |
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| 08:29.33 | koen | hey Dirk |
| 08:31.48 | zecke | mickey|zzZZzz: ping? |
| 08:34.35 | hrw|work | morning |
| 08:34.40 | XorA | hey hrw|work |
| 08:34.41 | magnet | hi. |
| 08:34.42 | hrw|work | do13_: collie boot now? |
| 08:35.18 | hrw|work | | /home/hrw/devel/build/3541-feed/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r3/temp/run.do_prep_locale_tree.21833: line 654: /home/hrw/devel/build/3541-feed/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/cp: Argument list too long |
| 08:35.22 | hrw|work | ;( |
| 08:41.14 | ixoth | hello everyone... |
| 08:41.19 | zecke | haha |
| 08:41.23 | zecke | is that on FreeBSD? |
| 08:41.41 | hrw|work | no - ewi |
| 08:41.55 | zecke | lol, glibc sucks |
| 08:43.24 | ixoth | today I managed to build org.oe.oz354x on my amd64 system using 32-bit chroot... seems that qemu locale generation fails on x86_64 - do I need to report it as a bug? |
| 08:43.54 | zecke | ixoth: to your distribution using qemu to generate locales |
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| 08:45.28 | ixoth | hmm... in fact, i used qemu-native from oe... |
| 08:46.05 | zecke | ixoth: yeah, but I know none with the skills to hack qemu that owns an amd64 system |
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| 08:46.20 | zecke | ixoth: so the best thing is to make your distribution e.g. Familiar aware of it |
| 08:46.49 | zecke | ixoth: anyway feel free to report bugs, feel free to attach patches |
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| 08:56.36 | mr_nice_slacker | morning all |
| 08:57.46 | koen | hey mr_nice_slacker |
| 09:01.53 | hrw|work | ~lart 32K cmdline limit |
| 09:03.17 | do13_ | hey koen, Marcin |
| 09:03.36 | do13_ | hrw|work: not yet it need mtd patches |
| 09:04.15 | do13_ | hrw|work: collie boots, but can't mount the root fs |
| 09:04.26 | hrw|work | ok |
| 09:05.19 | do13_ | hrw|work: I have a diff against pavels tree, but this needs to be splitt into some logical patches |
| 09:07.04 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 09:07.38 | do13_ | hey CoreDump|home |
| 09:08.12 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r214b4c4e... 10/packages/ipkg-utils/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ipkg-utils-native: add patch to stop ipkg-make-index move all ipkg to morgue/ |
| 09:11.29 | hrw|work | do13_: too bad that he does not cooperate |
| 09:12.26 | do13_ | hrw|work: yep. does he have a 2.6 bootstrap-image? |
| 09:13.28 | hrw|work | he had one |
| 09:21.09 | koen | good morning master mickeyl |
| 09:21.20 | mickeyl | hey |
| 09:21.22 | mickeyl | morning koen |
| 09:21.24 | do13_ | morning mickeyl |
| 09:21.27 | mickeyl | hi dirk |
| 09:21.35 | hrw|work | hi mickeyl |
| 09:22.17 | mickeyl | a friend of mine will visit belgium next week |
| 09:22.22 | mickeyl | you know what that means? |
| 09:22.28 | koen | mickeyl: leffe! |
| 09:22.32 | mickeyl | rightoooooooooooO! |
| 09:22.33 | mickeyl | :D |
| 09:22.42 | mickeyl | ordered a couple of sixpacks :) |
| 09:22.54 | do13_ | mickeyl: hows your thesis progressing? |
| 09:24.21 | mickeyl | do13: sluggish... but progressing. I plan to close the last big construction site in the next 3 weeks and then resubmit it to my supervisor. I hope he'll wave it through then and won't come up with more change requests... |
| 09:26.08 | XorA | hey mickeyl |
| 09:26.27 | mickeyl | hail XorA |
| 09:27.35 | do13_ | mickeyl: after that, you will work as freelancer? |
| 09:28.38 | mickeyl | do13: right, that's the plan. Eventually I may want to return to academics, but I want to have at least two or three years freelancing experience before that. |
| 09:32.14 | do13_ | mickeyl: cool. do you have customers already? |
| 09:36.02 | mickeyl | do13: not really although i had to reject queries that came in the last two years because of my thesis. It looks like I just acquired the first embedded UI consulting job in August :) |
| 09:37.26 | koen | mickeyl: cool |
| 09:37.46 | koen | mickeyl: any details on that, or is it still super-secret? |
| 09:38.08 | XorA | koen: quick brainwash mickeyl in the GPE way |
| 09:38.30 | hrw|work | EPE maybe |
| 09:38.33 | mickeyl | koen: unfortunately i can't tell :/ but if you read the archives from my yesterday rambling about mobile phone UI standard, you get an idea what I'm up to |
| 09:38.49 | mickeyl | XorA: hehe |
| 09:38.50 | do13_ | mickeyl: cool |
| 09:39.27 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 09:39.45 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: =) |
| 09:39.53 | mickeyl | and now I am sure that I will have enough time in winter to write that OE book i have been dreaming of |
| 09:40.34 | hrw|work | mickeyl: write something interesting so I will buy it to get autograph :D |
| 09:40.35 | mickeyl | see http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/author/ for a rough idea what it will contain |
| 09:40.44 | mickeyl | hrw|work: I will :)) |
| 09:41.09 | do13_ | hrw|work: does your tosa run 2.6 kernel? |
| 09:41.26 | hrw|work | do13_: 2.4 currently |
| 09:41.45 | do13_ | mickeyl: cover finished :) |
| 09:41.59 | hrw|work | do13_: I first plan to fix^Wlook at some 2.4 problems |
| 09:42.09 | mickeyl | do13: hehe, no. as you can see i just took the cover of my python book and gimp'ed it ;) |
| 09:42.15 | ixoth | damn... oe.pastebin.com is sloooow, so i accidentally added code 5 times :) |
| 09:42.24 | mickeyl | do13: if all goes well, i have more influence about the look of the book this time. |
| 09:42.31 | ixoth | anyways: http://oe.pastebin.com/736721 - about qemu-native and amd64 |
| 09:42.32 | mickeyl | last time everything was decided by the publisher |
| 09:42.35 | hrw|work | mickeyl: opie on tosa show new sets of hires stuff |
| 09:42.48 | mickeyl | hrw|work: I feared that. what's most annoying? |
| 09:42.58 | hrw|work | mickeyl: opie-record is shit |
| 09:43.19 | hrw|work | mickeyl: and 3.5.4 did not had 480x640 background.. |
| 09:43.48 | mickeyl | hrw|work: yeah, i commited the background upstream for 1.2.2 |
| 09:43.51 | mickeyl | (opie, that is) |
| 09:43.55 | mickeyl | that reminds me.... |
| 09:44.09 | mickeyl | ibot: pester zecke about "the" script |
| 09:44.12 | ibot | zecke about "the" script: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf |
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| 09:46.01 | do13_ | hrw|work: wlan-ng is cool ;) |
| 09:46.34 | CoreDump|home | hmm is there a way to launch xscreensaver when on AC but not on battery? If so, I don't see it |
| 09:46.42 | hrw|work | do13_: ? |
| 09:47.06 | hrw|work | do13_: wlan-ng SUXX - I had to open my home AP |
| 09:47.09 | CoreDump|home | sonar rocks =) http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31922.png |
| 09:47.14 | Crofton | gm |
| 09:47.18 | hrw|work | scap SUXX |
| 09:47.27 | do13_ | hrw|work: are you using wpa? |
| 09:47.28 | hrw|work | opie on c7x0 or tosa + scap == crap |
| 09:47.32 | hrw|work | do13_: yes |
| 09:47.42 | hrw|work | do13_: used rather due to tosa |
| 09:48.56 | do13_ | hrw|work: Hmm maybe I can scrap the usb part of the driver and merge it into hostap |
| 09:49.39 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: ya, it's fun. the position though is just a fake :) |
| 09:49.43 | hrw|work | usbctl is weird method to disable/enable wifi |
| 09:49.54 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: I plan to rewrite Wellenreiter next year again |
| 09:50.10 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: heh with X support I hope =D |
| 09:50.21 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: make it more of a general-purpose network security utility. Not just wireless sniffing. |
| 09:50.22 | CoreDump|home | and the position is related to the ping ;) |
| 09:50.33 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: yes, X support from the start. |
| 09:50.37 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: yay! |
| 09:51.08 | CoreDump|home | a PDA friendly sniffer is one of the things I am missing in GPE |
| 09:51.29 | hrw|work | mickeyl: and info like 'open/wep/wpa' or even detailed? |
| 09:51.33 | mickeyl | how do you like prismstumbler? |
| 09:51.47 | CoreDump|home | never tried it |
| 09:51.48 | mickeyl | hrw|work: definitly |
| 09:52.38 | do13_ | hrw|work: usbctl won't work with the 2.6 kernel. |
| 09:52.53 | XorA | prismstumbler doesnt work |
| 09:53.02 | hrw|work | do13_: and is not needed? |
| 09:53.04 | XorA | at least with my prism2/3 |
| 09:53.18 | hrw|work | XorA: so called Prism0.666? |
| 09:53.59 | XorA | hrw|work: :-D |
| 09:54.14 | hrw|work | wifi card of satan |
| 09:54.36 | do13_ | hrw|work: we need a way to switch the power of a specific usb port. I don't know if this is possible via sysfs |
| 09:55.58 | do13_ | hrw|work: the 2.6 ohci driver enables both ports at startup. But this drain's the battery if wifi isn't necessary. |
| 09:57.11 | CoreDump|home | meh, the "mouse" in UAE still doesn't work with a touchscreen :\ |
| 10:01.30 | koen | yay! |
| 10:01.48 | zecke | bastard! |
| 10:02.25 | koen | it only took them a month to send the getting started money |
| 10:02.39 | zecke | lol |
| 10:03.35 | do13_ | hrw|work: How's your student progressing? |
| 10:05.46 | hrw|work | do13_: quite well |
| 10:06.02 | hrw|work | have to fill midterm survey today.. |
| 10:06.21 | Crofton | what time is it in EU now? |
| 10:07.13 | XorA | Crofton: depends where |
| 10:07.21 | Crofton | well Italy |
| 10:07.28 | Crofton | specifically |
| 10:08.30 | hrw|work | 12:08 in Poland |
| 10:08.41 | koen | 12:08 in .nl |
| 10:08.45 | Crofton | heh |
| 10:08.50 | CoreDump|home | dito for .de ;) |
| 10:08.51 | Crofton | 6 AM here |
| 10:08.57 | XorA | 11:08 in UK |
| 10:09.06 | Crofton | I am flying to Itly Saturday |
| 10:09.19 | Crofton | and am trying to get up early to adapt |
| 10:09.31 | Crofton | :) |
| 10:09.48 | do13_ | Crofton: which part of Italy? |
| 10:11.02 | Crofton | northerb |
| 10:11.18 | Crofton | arounf Bolzano |
| 10:12.43 | do13_ | Crofton: fine, three weeks ago I was on vacation on the lake of garda |
| 10:15.40 | Crofton | cool |
| 10:15.55 | Crofton | we will be higher in the mountains |
| 10:24.48 | hrw|work | hi cliff |
| 10:24.56 | koen | lets see if people answer the question "why do you need a debian chroot in OZ" now |
| 10:25.04 | hrw|work | cbrake: childs did not allow to sleep? |
| 10:25.08 | cbrake | hrw|work: hi Marcin |
| 10:25.23 | koen | it usually turns out people don't know how to do 'ipkg install <foo>' |
| 10:25.40 | hrw|work | koen: but know 'apt-get install <foo>'? |
| 10:25.57 | cbrake | hrw|work: heh, actually I think they are all sleeping -- which is why I am up :-) |
| 10:26.16 | hrw|work | cbrake: ;) |
| 10:26.25 | koen | hrw|work: I remember pavel saying he needed bash |
| 10:26.48 | hrw|work | koen: I remember that |
| 10:27.02 | hrw|work | koen: pavel and OZ... hard to join |
| 10:27.27 | koen | it's the "rmk has no 2.6 patch, so arm isn't supported" type of thinking |
| 10:28.04 | hrw|work | koen: can you change your name on OE website from 'koen' to 'Koen Kooi'? it looks better |
| 10:28.32 | hrw|work | website with nicknames is good for personal homepage rather |
| 10:28.51 | koen | but koen is my name :) |
| 10:29.10 | hrw|work | and also nickname |
| 10:29.41 | koen | done |
| 10:29.44 | hrw|work | thx |
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| 10:36.12 | hrw|work | koen: read top post on OE website and feel free to edit my addon |
| 10:38.45 | CoreDump|home | it's a good thing that you only hav to make them available on request =) |
| 10:39.09 | mickeyl | hrw|work: good! |
| 10:42.48 | hrw|work | mickeyl: sources are mirrored on coredump mirror too |
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| 10:43.41 | Borealid | ... is it just me, or is the entire repository not bootstrappable? |
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| 10:44.43 | koen | bootstrappable? |
| 10:44.51 | Borealid | glibc 2.4 demands NPTL (there's no more linuxthreads there at all) which requires an older glibc, right? |
| 10:45.03 | CoreDump|home | hrw|work: and we can expect at least one, probably two more mirrors soon |
| 10:45.06 | Borealid | but if I try to build an older glibc |
| 10:45.09 | koen | linuxthreads should still be in ports/ |
| 10:45.15 | Borealid | hm? |
| 10:45.22 | Borealid | I couldn't get it to work |
| 10:45.24 | mickeyl | Borealid: no, glibc-2.4/NTPL can use glibc-intermediate-2.4 |
| 10:45.32 | Borealid | tried that, it didn't compile |
| 10:45.44 | mickeyl | works here w/ angstrom-2006.9 conf |
| 10:45.50 | Borealid | can I do glibc-intermediate-2.4 with linuxthreads? |
| 10:45.52 | pb_ | hi mickeyl |
| 10:45.55 | Borealid | that I'm not sure I tried |
| 10:45.56 | mickeyl | hey phil |
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| 10:48.16 | Borealid | koen: to set linuxthreads, do I need to put it in GLIBC_ADDONS? |
| 10:48.44 | koen | probably |
| 10:48.51 | koen | I only use nptl |
| 10:49.32 | Borealid | isn't nptl's performance on arm inferior to older linuxthreads anyway? |
| 10:49.46 | koen | that doesn't really matter for me |
| 10:49.56 | Borealid | nor me |
| 10:50.21 | koen | I just want EABI so I can utilize my FPU hardware :) |
| 10:50.47 | Borealid | ... and I want EABI so I can get the mess to build... -_- |
| 10:51.28 | pb_ | yeah, nptl will usually have slightly worse performance than linuxthreads on legacy hardware. it depends a bit on the workload, though: you can probably find cases where nptl is faster. |
| 10:51.57 | Borealid | | checking for kernel header at least 2.4.0... okrn| *** On GNU/Linux systems it is normal to compile GNU libc with thern| *** `nptl' add-on. Without that, the library will bern| *** incompatible with normal GNU/Linux systems.rn| *** If you really mean to not use this add-on, run configure againrn| *** using the extra parameter `--disable-sanity-checks'.rn| FATAL: oe_runconf failed |
| 10:52.19 | Borealid | <== a little too scared to disable sanity checking |
| 10:52.19 | zecke | ~pastebin |
| 10:52.23 | ibot | it has been said that pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 10:52.26 | koen | eabi works fine if you use DISTRO="angstrom-2006.9" |
| 10:52.39 | Borealid | but I was trying to build OZ |
| 10:52.49 | koen | AFAIK no other distro in OE has bothered to try to get eabi to work |
| 10:52.57 | Borealid | is there actually a difference from an end-user perspective between the two? |
| 10:53.21 | Borealid | I really just want a .16 or .17 kernel with openssh, iproute2, and iptables/ip6tables |
| 10:53.26 | Borealid | the rest doesn't much matter |
| 10:55.09 | Borealid | hm, a few of the glibc patches just need a rebasing to apply against the _cvs sources |
| 10:56.03 | hrw|work | ~lart ipkg utils |
| 10:59.22 | pb_ | hi zecke |
| 10:59.28 | zecke | master! |
| 10:59.55 | pb_ | ~lart mickeyl for crossposting between oe@ and subscriber-only lists |
| 11:00.10 | zecke | hehe |
| 11:05.25 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * red541e72... 10/packages/ipkg-utils/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ipkg-utils-native: add patch to stop ipkg-make-index move all ipkg to morgue/ - taken from .dev |
| 11:06.22 | Borealid | is there a reason that the kernel configs are so minimal? |
| 11:07.25 | XorA | Borealid: they contain what they need to contain |
| 11:07.45 | Borealid | XorA: what about the advanced networking modules? |
| 11:08.04 | Borealid | XorA: and support for filesystems... like reiser... |
| 11:08.10 | Borealid | XorA: cryptoloop... |
| 11:08.20 | koen | XorA: afaik they contain just enough modules to not annoy RP when recompiling a zillion times a day |
| 11:08.42 | XorA | Borealid: depends what kernel you are talking but the OZ ones are as koen says kept minimal because few users need those modules |
| 11:09.09 | Borealid | XorA: good point, but since we're using ipkg the modules can be built and only installed on demand |
| 11:09.22 | koen | the h2200 should be a bit 'fatter' :) |
| 11:09.33 | hrw|work | Borealid: and kernel will build in 50-100% longer time |
| 11:10.10 | Borealid | hrw|work: but that's only a one-time thing - once the feeds are built, isn't it a good idea to build a kernel with all the modules? |
| 11:10.12 | XorA | Borealid: the power of OE is such, if you need those modules, just use your own .config |
| 11:10.34 | Borealid | XorA: :-P good answer |
| 11:10.55 | XorA | Borealid: the .config is just copied into kernel and make oldconfig is run |
| 11:10.58 | koen | hrm |
| 11:10.59 | koen | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27363 |
| 11:11.08 | hrw|work | Borealid: I will think about pushing such changeset before relase |
| 11:11.09 | koen | that would explain why sounds doesn't work on my corgi |
| 11:11.34 | Borealid | mickeyl: Angstrom fails on glibc-intermediate-2.4 with "cannot compute suffix of object files: cannot compile" |
| 11:11.59 | koen | Borealid: you need to wipe tmp if you switch distros |
| 11:12.10 | Borealid | koen: thank you |
| 11:12.15 | CIA-9 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r1e165134... 10/packages/sylpheed/ (4 files): |
| 11:12.15 | CIA-9 | sylpheed-claws_2.3.1.bb : new version + version bumps for the associated |
| 11:12.15 | CIA-9 | plugins |
| 11:14.29 | Borealid | hrw|work: how close are the current OZ images to filling the smaller zaurii? |
| 11:14.44 | hrw|work | too much |
| 11:15.27 | koen | too bad SA doesn't have thumb |
| 11:15.37 | koen | would save ~30% |
| 11:16.38 | Borealid | which one of these packages is not like the others? busybox, tinylogin, gaim, dropbear, matchbox |
| 11:17.33 | koen | pb_: changing it to =&r seems to get past that error, thanks |
| 11:20.04 | pb_ | Borealid: matchbox |
| 11:20.12 | Borealid | pb_: why? |
| 11:20.18 | pb_ | it's the only one that doesn't contain any files |
| 11:20.31 | Borealid | that works, I guess |
| 11:20.44 | Borealid | I would say gaim |
| 11:20.45 | hrw|work | Borealid: for me it is gaim - because it is not in default images for small devices |
| 11:21.34 | Borealid | hrw|work: yeah, sylpheed and gaim seem kind of odd - in the gpe-image there are dozens of programs optimized to be as small and fast as possible, like dillo - and then there's gaim |
| 11:21.59 | Borealid | hrw|work: I mean, we don't even have a real coreutils in there |
| 11:22.12 | Borealid | hrw|work: or bc |
| 11:23.44 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 11:23.59 | Borealid | I think it was lying |
| 11:24.18 | Borealid | GNU bc is from the 90s, so a decade has to be an exaggeration |
| 11:26.18 | XorA | Borealid: our gaim is optimised for small screens |
| 11:26.46 | Borealid | XorA: did you know the preferred version is not gaim-2cvs? |
| 11:26.51 | Borealid | *now |
| 11:27.08 | XorA | Borealid: thats a distro choice |
| 11:27.45 | Borealid | XorA: in Gentoo, the installation message reads "danger: side effects may include dizziness, dry mouth, and lava. Consult your doctor to determine if gaim-2beta is right for you" |
| 11:28.10 | Borealid | XorA: yes - I was talking OZ. Although I am impressed by how well gaim works on zaurii |
| 11:28.40 | XorA | Borealid: I have the right version of gaim locally :-) |
| 11:28.56 | Borealid | actually, I think it was "awesomeness, dumbfoundedness, and lava" |
| 11:28.58 | Borealid | my mistake |
| 11:31.30 | hrw|work | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/06/30/first-days-using-tosa24/ |
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| 11:42.48 | mickeyl | pb_: oops, sorry for that. What's even worse, it looks like they finally blocked me. My posts no longer arrive at the list :/ |
| 11:43.01 | mickeyl | guess I have been complaining too much |
| 11:43.19 | pb_ | mickeyl: doh |
| 11:45.30 | hrw|work | ipkg-make-index for >8000 packages is taking some time.. |
| 11:46.13 | koen | hrw|work: too much time |
| 11:46.36 | hrw|work | far too much even |
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| 11:53.28 | hrw|work | especially when I use ipkg-make-index on all feeds many times... |
| 11:53.38 | mickeyl | pb_: master! |
| 11:53.51 | mickeyl | ~hail pb_ for his 31337 asm skillz |
| 11:53.58 | ibot | ACTION bows down to pb_ for his 31337 asm skillz and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 11:53.59 | mickeyl | ~praise pb_ for his 31337 asm skillz |
| 11:54.01 | ibot | All hail pb_ for his 31337 asm skillz! |
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| 11:55.28 | mickeyl | I now get 'warning: output constraint '=' for operand 0 is not at the beginning' |
| 11:55.41 | mickeyl | ignoring compiler warnings is good practice ;) |
| 11:55.56 | koen | it's been compiling for a while now over here |
| 11:56.14 | mickeyl | koen: i have some other fixes added as well. will commit when it goes through |
| 11:56.23 | koen | cool, thanks |
| 11:56.38 | mickeyl | np |
| 11:59.36 | hrw|work | I dream about day when firefox will be light browser... |
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| 12:02.52 | XorA | hrw|work: dream instead one day minimo comes back to unix |
| 12:06.03 | cbrake | hrw|work: I dream about the day when firefox does not leak memory like a sieve |
| 12:06.09 | hrw|work | yes.. |
| 12:06.18 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:06.27 | koen | and mozilla stops putting code in headers |
| 12:07.55 | cbrake | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.26 | hrw|work | cbrake: how long does it work? |
| 12:08.28 | Borealid | cbrake: is that for real? |
| 12:08.49 | zecke | hehe, use WebCore! |
| 12:08.53 | cbrake | hrw|work: its probably takes about a week to get to that point |
| 12:08.59 | Borealid | opera... |
| 12:09.06 | cbrake | Borealid: yup -- good think I have 2G ram ... |
| 12:09.20 | Borealid | cbrake: opera! |
| 12:09.23 | hrw|work | webcore, opera, khtml... all lack firefox extensions |
| 12:09.27 | zecke | cbrake: so you can have evolution and firefox in the same ram? |
| 12:09.40 | Borealid | zecke: evolution isn't THAT bad |
| 12:10.05 | koen | opera is anti-social |
| 12:10.23 | cbrake | hrw|work: I thinking it might be gmail, bloglines, or something that is constantly going out and refreshing itself |
| 12:10.25 | Borealid | I've actually been very impressed with recent versions of konqueror |
| 12:10.28 | XorA | opera just crashes on all OS/platforms I tried it on, except Opera Mini |
| 12:10.42 | Borealid | XorA: I've never had it crash |
| 12:10.45 | cbrake | Borealid: yeah, its getting better |
| 12:11.45 | XorA | Borealid: lucky you |
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| 12:13.33 | Borealid | 15510 braujac 15 0 275m 35m 20m S 2 1.8 0:01.98 evolution-2.4 |
| 12:13.43 | katossi | if I add a package to task-gpe it should be in the gpe-image, am I wrong? |
| 12:13.46 | Borealid | yeah, that's not outrageous considering the volume of mail |
| 12:17.05 | cbrake | zecke: kmail :-) |
| 12:17.21 | Borealid | hm, has OE looked into alternate SCM systems? |
| 12:17.38 | Borealid | mercurial from http://selenic.com/mercurial is like monotone but faster |
| 12:17.50 | zecke | Borealid: check the wiki |
| 12:17.58 | Borealid | where is it on the wiki? |
| 12:18.10 | katossi | zecke: hi man |
| 12:18.19 | katossi | zecke: how were the exams? |
| 12:18.26 | koen | zecke:those pages weren't converted |
| 12:18.28 | zecke | katossi: passed one, four to go :} |
| 12:18.33 | zecke | ouch |
| 12:18.40 | katossi | very good |
| 12:18.45 | koen | zecke: i was too lazy since we decided to go with monotone anyway |
| 12:18.53 | katossi | zecke: and germany is still in the WM |
| 12:18.55 | koen | feel free to add them yourselfes |
| 12:19.07 | zecke | Borealid: well basicly: hg push, ..., CTRL+C after it 'hang' |
| 12:19.19 | Borealid | zecke: with 0.8 or later? |
| 12:19.30 | zecke | Borealid: requires hg recover on the server :) |
| 12:19.53 | zecke | Borealid: don't remember which version I have used back then |
| 12:20.07 | Borealid | zecke: ouch. That sounds very much like what would happen in 0.4 days |
| 12:20.39 | zecke | Borealid: finger showed there was no user session active |
| 12:20.50 | zecke | Borealid: but both client and server blocked (without a connection) |
| 12:20.54 | Borealid | heh |
| 12:20.56 | zecke | Borealid: after a push |
| 12:21.04 | Borealid | pushing via ssh? |
| 12:21.09 | zecke | yes |
| 12:21.20 | Borealid | hmmm |
| 12:21.33 | Borealid | <shrug> that stuff doesn't happen now |
| 12:21.36 | zecke | Borealid: and on using tailor to convert from monotone to git, darcs, svn and hg |
| 12:21.45 | zecke | Borealid: hg was the slowest to convert |
| 12:21.52 | zecke | Borealid: by order of magnitudes |
| 12:21.59 | Borealid | that must be before revlogng |
| 12:22.01 | zecke | could be tailor |
| 12:22.23 | Borealid | git and hg were virtually identical in terms of repo format pre-0.8 |
| 12:22.50 | Borealid | see http://www.selenic.com/pipermail/mercurial/2006-April/007592.html |
| 12:23.41 | zecke | Borealid: well, hg would not have worked |
| 12:23.42 | koen | testing scms received massive desinterest, yet people seem to complain about whatever we choose |
| 12:23.58 | Borealid | koen: I don't mind monotone |
| 12:24.04 | zecke | koen: well :) |
| 12:24.09 | Borealid | I would complain if OE were in a centralized SCM |
| 12:24.10 | hrw|work | and we got monotone devels help |
| 12:24.23 | hrw|work | ~hail njs |
| 12:24.27 | ibot | ACTION bows down to njs and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 12:24.38 | zecke | ~praise njs |
| 12:24.41 | ibot | All hail njs! |
| 12:24.41 | Borealid | what would be nice is if there were a way to have a repo served via all methods at once |
| 12:24.46 | hrw|work | Borealid: iirc 0.25.1 or 0.25.2 was 'OE release' |
| 12:24.59 | Borealid | hrw|work: heh |
| 12:24.59 | hrw|work | bb |
| 12:25.10 | zecke | hrw|work: oh well, one of them was a security release as well |
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| 12:26.05 | Borealid | hm - I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be technically possible to keep a repo accessible via svn, cvs, hg, monotone, darcs, and bzr all at once |
| 12:26.17 | Borealid | you just need to flatten branches for the primitive SCMs |
| 12:26.19 | zecke | Borealid: I think it is likely we will provide svn readonly (through tailor) |
| 12:26.41 | Borealid | no, I mean there should be a program that provides RW access via multiple methods |
| 12:26.46 | Borealid | it could be quilt-based |
| 12:26.49 | koen | or cvs via the perl script |
| 12:27.09 | Borealid | ... |
| 12:27.30 | Borealid | maybe we should keep a big directory full of patches |
| 12:27.34 | koen | but whatever we support people will always bitch and complain about <foo> being not there |
| 12:27.56 | Borealid | exactly, which is why you could make it possible to interface with the repo however you want |
| 12:28.07 | Borealid | I mean, fundamentally an SCM is just a series of changes, right? |
| 12:28.17 | Borealid | the merge functionality and branching is usually client-side |
| 12:28.19 | Borealid | tagging is just icing |
| 12:28.36 | Borealid | so if you restrict the main repo to one head... |
| 12:28.42 | zecke | Borealid: hehe, no that is darcs |
| 12:28.57 | Borealid | zecke: yep :-P and it works pretty well too |
| 12:29.05 | Borealid | zecke: ever tried hg mq? |
| 12:29.49 | Borealid | koen: thanks, changing the ARCH to -gnueabi did it |
| 12:30.23 | zecke | Borealid: no |
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| 12:30.43 | zecke | Borealid: ah we have tried darcs well :) |
| 12:30.48 | zecke | Borealid: oh and it is :) |
| 12:31.10 | Borealid | it is a dir full of patches? |
| 12:31.11 | zecke | Borealid: and git on non GNU systems is.. :) |
| 12:31.20 | zecke | Borealid: basicly, yes |
| 12:31.37 | Borealid | it's a sensible model |
| 12:31.37 | zecke | Borealid: and on OSX you can not pull more than 60 revs at once |
| 12:31.46 | zecke | Borealid: and it has security issues |
| 12:31.48 | Borealid | zecke: that I didn't know |
| 12:33.12 | Borealid | five hours on my x2 4600+ |
| 12:34.03 | zecke | Borealid: lol, I want one as well |
| 12:34.13 | zecke | Borealid: on www.openembedded.org it needs 11 hours |
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| 12:34.48 | Borealid | zecke: they don't cost so much anymore ^_^ |
| 12:35.06 | Borealid | computers are getting cheaper - the obsolesence point is moving |
| 12:35.22 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.29 | Borealid | *obsolescence |
| 12:35.34 | zecke | Borealid: so x2 4600+ is... |
| 12:35.47 | Borealid | a month's food and drugs |
| 12:36.04 | zecke | and misc. things |
| 12:36.12 | Borealid | zecke: with only that much a 4600+ would be hard to get, yes |
| 12:36.19 | Borealid | zecke: win the lottery :-P |
| 12:36.40 | Borealid | I got a $3,000 ruggedized laptop for $120 |
| 12:36.46 | Borealid | sometimes you get lucky |
| 12:37.09 | Crofton | sex drugs and rock and roll add up :) |
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| 12:37.35 | zecke | Crofton: sex, perscription drugs, and roll |
| 12:37.40 | Crofton | ah |
| 12:38.10 | Crofton | those can be even pricier |
| 12:38.31 | Crofton | less competition, more regulations |
| 12:38.38 | Borealid | depends on the country, of course, both for the drugs' price and how much you have to pay for them |
| 12:38.44 | Crofton | true |
| 12:38.57 | Crofton | here it depends on your insurance plan |
| 12:39.19 | Borealid | interesting, I had no idea how advanced the EABI support had gotten in Angstrom |
| 12:39.36 | Borealid | seems to be working very well |
| 12:44.18 | Crofton | will anyone be left to ride in the tour? |
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| 12:44.53 | koen | Crofton: well, if you ban people who take drugs, nobody will be left |
| 12:45.06 | Crofton | sounds like baseball |
| 12:46.02 | Crofton | except baseball doesn't seem very serious about drugs |
| 12:46.05 | koen | I wonder what would happen if they started testing soccer players |
| 12:46.10 | Crofton | yeah |
| 12:46.24 | Crofton | Apparently the spanish police also have a list of soccer players |
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| 12:46.31 | Crofton | but this isn't ending up in the papers |
| 12:47.01 | Crofton | I can't read "foreign" languages so I have to rely on translated stories though |
| 12:51.02 | chouimat | morning |
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| 12:54.14 | ken | mornin |
| 12:55.27 | Borealid | 'night |
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| 12:58.57 | zecke | Crofton: lol, Tour de France without any top guys |
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| 12:59.38 | Crofton | zecke, rather a Tour with the real top guys. |
| 12:59.59 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcc1957ee... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom 2006.9: move srcdate |
| 13:00.10 | zecke | Crofton: I'm not sure about this 'list' |
| 13:00.47 | Crofton | yeah, unless they are doing a lot more work than I read about, there is an element of guessing involved |
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| 13:10.17 | koen | XorA: did you get anywhere with the new rxct-unicode? |
| 13:11.00 | koen | rxvt* |
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| 13:16.45 | koen | djeez |
| 13:18.09 | koen | "Compare the output of 'apt-cache pkgnames' under debian to 'ipkg list' under OE. The set of names that are in apt but not ipkg are what OZ (and indeed any OS) is missing." |
| 13:18.29 | Crofton | good heart? |
| 13:19.01 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1da0ff94... 10/packages/qt/ (2 files in 2 dirs): qt4 4.1.2 fix g++ 4.1.1 asm constraints, fix angstrom build |
| 13:19.05 | CIA-9 | 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6a09c229... 10/packages/qt/ (8 files in 2 dirs): qt4 4.1.1 remove |
| 13:20.08 | koen | hrw|work: why is it so hard to get a straight answer out of complaining users? |
| 13:21.15 | hrw|work | mickeyl: qt 4.2tp1 released... |
| 13:21.20 | koen | ah, it seems my goverment is gone |
| 13:21.32 | zecke | koen: since yesterday? |
| 13:21.34 | hrw|work | ~users |
| 13:21.42 | ibot | so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? <irony> well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. </irony> |
| 13:22.14 | zecke | koen: empty your sources list |
| 13:22.30 | zecke | koen: and ask the user if you should remove things |
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| 13:31.31 | XorA | koen: still pink here, and I cant work out why |
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| 13:55.50 | koen | XorA: maybe it's the authors favourite colour |
| 13:56.13 | hrw|work | someone remember where does IMAGE_LINGUAS are defined? |
| 13:56.29 | hrw|work | found |
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| 13:56.44 | XorA | koen: Well we got a version for people with "alternative" lifestyles :-) |
| 13:57.25 | koen | hrw|work: poky has some patches to only use one locale |
| 13:58.06 | koen | XorA: "this release was dedicated to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091790/" ;) |
| 13:58.37 | hrw|work | thats not that - images-from-feeds need fix for linguas |
| 14:00.10 | XorA | koen: :-D |
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| 14:03.16 | hrw|work | NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0-r22: task do_build: completed |
| 14:03.17 | hrw|work | uf |
| 14:03.30 | Kristoffer | lucky bastard |
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| 14:06.19 | hrw|work | Kristoffer: .oz354x is stable |
| 14:06.27 | do13 | hrw|work: got cable today |
| 14:06.33 | hrw|work | do13: great |
| 14:07.20 | hrw|work | do13: so soon I will be able to test BT USB |
| 14:07.58 | do13 | hrw|work: no need for BT USB, Tosa has internal BT ;) |
| 14:09.26 | hrw|work | do13: I have only two usb things: 64M pendrive and BT dongle |
| 14:09.41 | hrw|work | do13: I do not count usbnet cables for Z |
| 14:10.58 | Kristoffer | koen, could you give a quick glance at bug 1131, must be something simple |
| 14:11.02 | koen | ipkg instal kernel-module-hci-usb (iirc) |
| 14:11.09 | hrw|work | do13: and this tosa lack BT |
| 14:12.28 | do13 | hrw|work: I had such a tosa 8 month |
| 14:13.31 | mickeyl | bbl |
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| 14:14.48 | koen | wow |
| 14:15.00 | koen | 40k spent on travel expenses for guadec |
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| 14:16.39 | Kristoffer | koen, could u give your quick opinion on bug 1131? |
| 14:17.01 | koen | http://www.o-hand.com/~ebassi/2006-guadec-recent-files/slide-13.png |
| 14:17.09 | koen | Kristoffer: check bugzilla |
| 14:17.29 | Kristoffer | koen, I just posted bug 1131, just wanted your quick opinion about it |
| 14:17.32 | Kristoffer | must be something stupid |
| 14:17.38 | koen | yes, check bugzilla |
| 14:17.42 | Kristoffer | ah |
| 14:19.39 | zecke | koen: hehe |
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| 14:29.07 | cbrake | server.c:1348: Cherokee feels panic! |
| 14:29.21 | cbrake | heh, nice of cherokee to tell me how it feels :-\ |
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| 14:45.50 | do13 | hrw|work: uname -a |
| 14:45.50 | do13 | Linux collie 2.6.17 #4 PREEMPT Fri Jun 30 16:29:11 CEST 2006 armv4l unknown |
| 14:46.05 | zecke | awesome :) |
| 14:46.20 | hrw|work | great |
| 14:46.42 | hrw|work | cbrake: :) |
| 14:47.03 | do13 | linux-openzaurus + pawels mtd patch |
| 14:47.18 | hrw|work | mtd.patch;status=hack? |
| 14:47.19 | do13 | It lacks pm, touch, .... |
| 14:47.57 | koen | didn't pavel have a hack for the touchscreen/ |
| 14:47.57 | koen | s:/:?: |
| 14:48.13 | do13 | yes. We need to import his patches |
| 14:50.01 | koen | XorA: what do you prefer: epdfview or evince? |
| 14:50.52 | do13 | koen:I have a diff of pavels tree against vanilla kernel. But we need to splitt this into small logical patches |
| 14:50.55 | XorA | koen: epdfview |
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| 14:52.24 | koen | hrw|work: which font do you recommend to replace ttf-bitstream-vera? |
| 14:52.31 | hrw|work | ttf-dejavu |
| 14:52.45 | hrw|work | vera based with much more glyphs |
| 14:52.53 | hrw|work | and I need to update it to recent version |
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| 14:53.36 | koen | ok |
| 14:54.08 | koen | what do you think about this: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/task-angstrom.bb ? |
| 14:55.01 | hrw|work | dont see a reason for separated gpe tasks |
| 14:55.22 | XorA | koen: looks good to me |
| 14:55.46 | koen | hrw|work: you mean outside of task-gpe or at all? |
| 14:55.55 | XorA | koen: maybe gqview in there somewhere |
| 14:56.03 | hrw|work | at all |
| 14:56.12 | koen | XorA: that's why I kept evince instead of epdfview |
| 14:56.23 | koen | hrw|work: this way !gpe images can use them as well |
| 14:56.34 | koen | hrw|work: like e-image and xfce-image |
| 14:56.35 | XorA | koen: problem is evince tries to pre-render all pages of pdf :-( |
| 14:57.13 | XorA | although I havent tried epdfview with pre-rendering on large docs yet |
| 14:59.55 | XorA | time for me to catch train home |
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| 15:07.20 | ixoth | goodbye everyone... |
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| 15:11.50 | ken | koen, you were quite correct, works fine now |
| 15:15.34 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rb6bfb43e... 10/packages/zd1211/ (12 files in 4 dirs): zd1211: dropped all old versions |
| 15:15.38 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd0dadbbe... 10/packages/zd1211/ (5 files in 2 dirs): zd1211: added r77 from .dev |
| 15:18.24 | hrw|work | someone remember who maintain sword in OE? |
| 15:20.13 | hrw|work | heh.. noone |
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| 15:23.46 | obergix[work] | http://eucd.info/index.php?2006/06/30/333-french-parliament-approves-the-worst-copyright-law-in-europe : shame on us :( |
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| 15:28.35 | Kristoffer | anyone having issues with building konqueror-embedded, getting a cannot run/find kde-config |
| 15:28.56 | NAbyss | Kristoffer: Yeah, I have issues building it.. little late for me to do any debugging though |
| 15:29.08 | Kristoffer | same issues? |
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| 15:29.20 | Kristoffer | Its worked for me in the past, but cannot figure out why it doesnt now |
| 15:29.25 | NAbyss | iirc, it was a missing header or such |
| 15:29.47 | Kristoffer | in the source code? |
| 15:30.04 | NAbyss | in a library it depends on, I'm guessing |
| 15:30.19 | Kristoffer | if you remember anything more please let me know |
| 15:30.34 | NAbyss | Anyways.. I'm off for a couple of weeks |
| 15:31.18 | Kristoffer | doh |
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| 15:43.57 | CIA-9 | 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * ra93b8d47... 10/ (files/device_table-jlime.txt conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf): |
| 15:43.57 | CIA-9 | files/device_table-jlime.txt: Addition of new table for JLime |
| 15:43.57 | CIA-9 | conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf: Typo fix |
| 15:43.57 | CIA-9 | * kernel-module -> kernel-modules |
| 15:52.36 | zecke | koen: do you know something better than Chicken of VNC? |
| 15:52.48 | koen | zecke: sadly not |
| 15:56.05 | emte | how about chicken of the sea? |
| 15:56.09 | emte | :P |
| 15:56.42 | zecke | koen: are keymaps broken for you as well? |
| 15:59.24 | koen | zecke: never tried to type |
| 15:59.37 | koen | zecke: I only use it for controlling my ipaqs |
| 15:59.50 | koen | and doing demos at conferences |
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| 16:01.13 | ken_ | How can i use "bitbake -i" and set it to build all opie without stopping when errors? |
| 16:01.20 | ken_ | like bitbake -k opie* |
| 16:01.31 | ken_ | if that would have worked |
| 16:02.40 | hrw|work | ken_: its not possible ;( |
| 16:02.57 | ken_ | I dont like that answer, give me a different one |
| 16:03.29 | hrw|work | ken_: look in bugtracke |
| 16:03.38 | ken_ | Oki |
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| 16:12.59 | zecke | Kristoffer: Alternative Answer: Get your credit card, give me a million Euro, order stuff as much as you want :) |
| 16:13.12 | zecke | give me one... |
| 16:15.04 | emte | only world is setup to keep going on fail |
| 16:16.15 | hrw|work | emte: in interactive shell? |
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| 16:49.38 | hrw|work | CoreDump|afk: hmm.. |
| 16:49.39 | hrw|work | NOTE: package mplayer-common-0.0.1-r0: task do_distribute_sources: started |
| 16:49.39 | hrw|work | NOTE: Licenses (['unknown']) are not all listed in SRC_DISTRIBUTE_LICENSES, skipping source distribution |
| 16:52.11 | koen | hrw|work: what about setting 'TARGET_VENDOR = "-openzaurus"' in openzaurus.conf? |
| 16:52.32 | hrw|work | koen: what this change? |
| 16:52.59 | hrw|work | XorA|gone: mplayer 1.0pre8 does not build for armv4 (collie) |
| 16:53.11 | hrw|work | | armv4l/dsputil_arm_s.S:684: Error: selected processor does not support `pld [r1]' |
| 16:53.28 | koen | hrw|work: it will put 'openzaurus' in all the toolchains |
| 16:53.43 | koen | instead of arm-linux-unknown-gcc you get arm-linux-openzaurus-gcc |
| 16:53.52 | hrw|work | koen: ah. |
| 16:54.01 | hrw|work | koen: I built feeds already |
| 16:54.26 | koen | you could do it for 3.5.4.2 |
| 16:54.51 | koen | makes it easier to spot people using the 'wrong' toolchain |
| 16:54.56 | hrw|work | koen: 3.5.4.2 will use 3.5.4.1 feeds rather - now when I finally got them cleaned |
| 16:54.58 | hrw|work | koen: ok |
| 16:55.24 | hrw|work | koen: anyway I can rebuild native and cross sdk later |
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| 16:59.25 | hrw|work | someone want to buy hx4700? |
| 17:00.03 | koen | heh |
| 17:00.17 | koen | I was just thinking about using my hx for native compilation |
| 17:01.03 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1cbd637d... 10/conf/distro/angstrom.conf: angstrom: brand the toolchain regardless of architecture |
| 17:03.35 | koen | hmmm |
| 17:03.46 | koen | maybe I'll distcc it with my h5550 |
| 17:07.06 | hrw|work | cu |
| 17:07.25 | hrw|work | have a nice weekend |
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| 17:07.50 | hrw|work | tomorrow I have stag party (not mine yet) |
| 17:08.24 | koen | enjoy |
| 17:11.38 | XorA|gone | hrw|gone: try disabling w100 |
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| 17:20.52 | JustinP | RP, hrw: can't change the volume on my spitz with the volume applet in GPE or in mpd |
| 17:21.02 | JustinP | (3.5.4.1 rc4) |
| 17:21.25 | JustinP | CosmicPenguin: problems with altboot. It drops to a shell when I chhoose normal boot but "exec /sbin/init.sysvinit 5" works fine |
| 17:21.38 | CosmicPenguin | heh - I can't help you.. :) |
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| 17:23.38 | JustinP | damn |
| 17:23.40 | JustinP | did it again |
| 17:23.54 | JustinP | CoreDump|afk: problems with altboot. It drops to a shell when I choose normal boot but "exec /sbin/init.sysvinit 5" works fine |
| 17:24.00 | JustinP | ~lart irssi |
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| 18:06.37 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rde01d836... 10/packages/linux/ep93xx-kernel_2.6.17.1.bb: ep93xx-kernel 2.6.17.1: make it work |
| 18:28.23 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: hi, zecke told me, that his kernel 2.6.0 and 2.6.10 may be or may be not anywhere on the internet. as you had a copy of his git tree (which starts with 2.6.11) i thought you may have also a copy of the other kernels :). |
| 18:28.32 | zecke_ | lol |
| 18:31.13 | woglinde | hm I have zecke's git tree |
| 18:31.20 | woglinde | from 29.5 |
| 18:31.52 | hrw|gone | re |
| 18:33.00 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: i did a ls -lah .git/refs/tags/ |
| 18:33.17 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: and the oldest one was v2.6.11 |
| 18:33.45 | woglinde | VERSION = 2 |
| 18:33.45 | woglinde | PATCHLEVEL = 6 |
| 18:33.45 | woglinde | SUBLEVEL = 17 |
| 18:33.45 | woglinde | EXTRAVERSION =-rc5 |
| 18:33.45 | woglinde | NAME=Lordi Rules |
| 18:34.53 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: how to get this info - i'm not that well informed about git |
| 18:35.29 | woglinde | Makefile |
| 18:35.55 | koen | woglinde: heh |
| 18:35.59 | woglinde | he koen |
| 18:36.16 | woglinde | koen "ohne holland fahren wir nach berlin" *duck and hide* |
| 18:36.39 | koen | woglinde: I don't care about soccer |
| 18:36.45 | woglinde | koen *g* |
| 18:36.46 | koen | I'm gratefull we lost |
| 18:36.55 | koen | less annoyance in the neighbourhood |
| 18:39.06 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde: i have the same. which version of arm toolchain do you use? with your .conf file and the arm 3.4.1 toolchain from handhelds.org i run into compile errors. |
| 18:39.26 | woglinde | hm mom |
| 18:40.09 | woglinde | 3.3.4 or 4.0.2 |
| 18:43.08 | mr_nice_slacker | woglinde:ok i try to update |
| 18:51.09 | hrw | possibility to clean staging before build of package would be nice... |
| 18:51.34 | hrw | koen: I hope that some kind of it would be possible after your SoC :) |
| 18:52.02 | koen | it should be |
| 18:52.23 | koen | zecke and I want two modes: "append" and "create from scratch" |
| 18:52.43 | hrw | XorA|gone: mplayer is fscked when world is built - too much dependencies are not disabled |
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| 18:52.59 | hrw | koen: we would need kind of 'build-essential' meta-package then |
| 18:53.01 | hrw | hi Liam |
| 18:53.06 | koen | hey lrg |
| 18:53.09 | lrg | morning all |
| 18:53.24 | lrg | koen, I ran into this about 2 weeks ago :( |
| 18:53.43 | lrg | koen: -O1 is a tmp fix |
| 18:53.50 | koen | yeah |
| 18:54.01 | lrg | koen: sadly it also aplies to alsa-lib :( |
| 18:54.15 | koen | ouch |
| 18:54.45 | lrg | koen: I'm writing a small userspace test case for gcc bugs this weekend |
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| 18:54.59 | koen | :) |
| 18:55.14 | koen | I was planning on setting up a native toolchain this weekend |
| 18:55.26 | hrw | koen: angstrom one? |
| 18:55.29 | koen | yes |
| 18:56.44 | lrg | koen: maybe it's best to temp patch alsa-lib and linux/sound/* to build with -O1 until there is a fix |
| 18:56.59 | koen | yeah |
| 18:57.10 | koen | and/or add A BIG FAT WARNING to the .bb |
| 18:57.55 | hrw | koen: kind of do_configure_prepend() { bb.note("BIG FAT WARNING: blebleble")}? |
| 18:58.03 | lrg | koen: probably both, as it's not obvious from the audio error messages :( |
| 18:59.21 | lrg | Btw, GUADEC was good. Fluendo hosted a beach party with free beer :) |
| 19:00.01 | koen | that's nice to hear |
| 19:00.13 | koen | I think zecke and I will be there next year |
| 19:00.53 | lrg | koen: next year it's in Birmingham, closer to Holland for you as well ? |
| 19:01.41 | koen | I can get a flight to spain for E2 with easyjet/ryanair/etc, so that wasn't a problem |
| 19:02.15 | koen | just returning from a real vacation was the 'problem' :) |
| 19:02.36 | lrg | heh |
| 19:02.45 | zecke_ | hehe |
| 19:02.56 | zecke_ | damn... I need to sketch my aKademy paper |
| 19:05.45 | koen | zecke_: guadec spent $40k on reimbursing people for travel expenses this year |
| 19:06.50 | Crofton | what is guadec? |
| 19:07.05 | koen | Crofton: gnome european dev conference |
| 19:07.21 | koen | getting everybody happy and motivated till the next guadec |
| 19:07.33 | lrg | heh, true |
| 19:07.44 | Crofton | hmm, maybe I should do gnome dev :) |
| 19:10.52 | hrw | koen: you did not started rrd on ewi? |
| 19:11.10 | hrw | koen: all graphs are from 21 June |
| 19:15.04 | koen | oops |
| 19:15.06 | koen | restarted |
| 19:15.26 | hrw | add into initscripts ;) |
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| 19:29.13 | CIA-9 | 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r84e5771f... 10/packages/angstrom/task-angstrom.bb: packages/angstrom/task-angstrom.bb: add initial version |
| 19:29.50 | hrw | mickey|fifa2006: added wireless-tools 29-pre10 - needed for 2.6.17+ |
| 19:30.21 | hrw | hi marcos |
| 19:30.22 | koen | ah, now I think of it |
| 19:30.32 | CosmicPenguin | ahh - really? wireless-tools needs to be bumped? |
| 19:30.37 | koen | my oz image from .dev lacked the modules needed for wep |
| 19:30.46 | thejapa | hi hrw |
| 19:30.56 | koen | arc4, ieeeeeeeeee80211-crypto, etc |
| 19:30.56 | hrw | CosmicPenguin: need is strong word - older ver complain about WE20 |
| 19:31.07 | hrw | koen: michael-mic, aes |
| 19:31.19 | hrw | koen: look at .oz354x configs |
| 19:32.06 | hrw | CosmicPenguin: when kernel got WE19 (2.6.15 iirc) I upgraded wireless-tools to 28-pre13 to not get 'this version support WE11 to WE18 but kernel is WE19' |
| 19:32.20 | koen | hrw: yeah, I'm working on angstrom configs for that stuff |
| 19:32.44 | hrw | CosmicPenguin: now 28pre13 complain about getting WE20 when support up to WE19 - 29pre10 support WE21 |
| 19:33.41 | hrw | time to submit midterm survey |
| 19:34.47 | CosmicPenguin | 153 packages to just get xorg-server |
| 19:34.59 | koen | nice and modular |
| 19:35.18 | koen | good thing we don't need to upgrade all of them all the time |
| 19:35.43 | CosmicPenguin | also - most of them don't take any time to compile |
| 19:35.48 | CosmicPenguin | so it moves fast |
| 19:36.01 | koen | on your 85938509-way opteron |
| 19:36.14 | CosmicPenguin | of course, we need about half of them as native, so that hurts |
| 19:41.30 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r4e1cedf1... 10/packages/nano/ (nano-1.3.12/glib.m4 nano_1.3.12.bb): nano: added 1.3.12 |
| 19:41.34 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r02764b93... 10/packages/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_29-pre10.bb: wireless-tools: added 29-pre10 - this version support WE21 and 2.6.17 use WE20 so 28pre13 is too old |
| 19:41.38 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r2b676a3f... 10/packages/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_29-pre10.bb: wireless-tools: added me as maintainer to latest version |
| 19:41.42 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8285fffe... 10/packages/wireless-tools/wireless-tools_29-pre10.bb: wireless-tools: added 29-pre10 - this version support WE21 and 2.6.17 use WE20 so 28pre13 is too old. also me as 2nd maintainer |
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| 20:18.20 | koen | gah |
| 20:18.22 | koen | Failed to execute /bin/busybox. Attempting defaults... |
| 20:18.22 | koen | Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. |
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| 20:25.07 | hrw | not nice |
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| 20:28.42 | koen | hrm |
| 20:28.53 | koen | hrw: the oz wiki is getting a lot of spam, time to lock it down? |
| 20:30.25 | hrw | koen: will discuss it with lardman and bronson - they admin it |
| 20:30.31 | hrw | ~seen bronson |
| 20:30.38 | ibot | bronson <n=bronson@pool-71-255-175-47.bstnma.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 12d 6h 9s ago, saying: 'lardman, OK, you should have full rights now.'. |
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| 20:40.43 | hrw | tosa/2.4 wifi suxx |
| 20:41.13 | do13 | hehe |
| 20:42.16 | hrw | do13: I did not yet tested tosa/2.6 - who know how bad it is... ;D |
| 20:42.41 | do13 | :) |
| 20:43.12 | do13 | hrw: try it |
| 20:43.23 | hrw | next week not sooner |
| 20:43.28 | hrw | stag party during weekend |
| 20:43.35 | do13 | cool |
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| 20:43.50 | sirfred | Hello |
| 20:43.51 | do13 | I had this 2 weeks ago (my brother) |
| 20:45.07 | hrw | hi sirfred |
| 20:45.20 | sirfred | hrw: Hi. |
| 20:45.27 | do13 | hrw: Have fun |
| 20:46.10 | sirfred | hrw: Have anyone notified problems starting opie in 3.5.4.1-test.prefinal-20060630? |
| 20:46.34 | sirfred | hrw: On a c760 |
| 20:47.34 | hrw | sirfred: after calibration? |
| 20:47.58 | sirfred | hrw: Yes. Language settings screen messed up, and following ones. |
| 20:48.12 | sirfred | hrw: Only showing in the left corner, then opie hungs. |
| 20:48.19 | hrw | sirfred: thx - know bug will fix |
| 20:48.31 | sirfred | hrw: Great. |
| 20:48.53 | koen | ~seen pH5 |
| 20:49.06 | ibot | ph5 <n=ph5@p54867D11.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 11h 46m 32s ago, saying: 'hey koen'. |
| 20:49.38 | hrw | sirfred: opie-mediummount need replace |
| 20:50.27 | sirfred | hrw: Any way to fix it easily? |
| 20:50.37 | hrw | ipkg remove it |
| 20:50.58 | sirfred | hrw: Thanks a lot! I'm going to test. |
| 20:51.34 | sirfred | hrw: Another thing I've just remembered. |
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| 20:52.11 | sirfred | hrw: After booting, an image is supposed to appear, instead of the boot log. |
| 20:52.39 | sirfred | hrw: In the c760 it looks like ... how to say? not aligned. |
| 20:53.16 | sirfred | hrw: It's a minor, stetic bug, because boots anyway. |
| 20:53.36 | hrw | sirfred: can you post it to oz-devel? |
| 20:53.52 | hrw | I can take care of it during next week |
| 20:53.56 | sirfred | hrw: Of course. |
| 20:54.06 | hrw | thx |
| 20:54.34 | sirfred | hrw: You're wellcome |
| 20:56.06 | koen | I suspect oz-bootsplash needs seperate screendumps for each device |
| 20:56.46 | hrw | dosbox RUNS! |
| 20:57.03 | hrw | koen: yep |
| 20:57.10 | hrw | koen: and akita one does not work on c7x0 |
| 20:57.21 | hrw | sirfred: contact coredump - he maintain oz-bootsplash |
| 20:57.57 | hrw | sirfred: or flash gpe-image and send him /etc/*grab* or sth like that (gpe-bootsplash needed) |
| 20:57.57 | sirfred | hrw: I've just send a reply to your announce. |
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| 20:59.56 | sirfred | hrw: I don't understand. |
| 21:00.25 | sirfred | hrw: Does that mean that gpe-bootsplash is working fine, and the boot screen is supposed to be in that location? |
| 21:00.27 | hrw | sirfred: contact CoreDump|afk - he will give proper details |
| 21:00.45 | sirfred | hrw: OK. Thanks again. |
| 21:03.53 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r36d6ac35... 10/packages/settings-daemon/settings-daemon_svn.bb: settings-daemon: set PV |
| 21:03.58 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd22bf30a... 10/packages/dosbox/ (files/no-opengl.patch dosbox_0.65.bb): dosbox: unbreak it, force no OpenGL support. Made it working with help from raduga |
| 21:04.44 | hrw | koen: that dosbox fix can be usefull in .dev but probably made in other way |
| 21:05.11 | raduga | hrw: sorry if I wasn't more helpful. |
| 21:05.30 | raduga | dosbox should "work" ok, in console, or X11. |
| 21:05.54 | raduga | the keys that still need fixing are... just annoying, not a major defect. |
| 21:06.17 | hrw | raduga: now it runs - more details can be now worked out by users |
| 21:06.40 | hrw | openttd was built but not work - user comes with infos how to make it working |
| 21:06.43 | raduga | i don't remember what was wrong with touchscreen, but there's a fix to make it 90% useful |
| 21:07.17 | raduga | hrw: I'll post in bug tracker when I have time to work on it |
| 21:08.02 | hrw | ok |
| 21:09.34 | JustinP | hrw: volume being broken a known bug? |
| 21:10.14 | koen | teh c700 fails to mount the jffs2 partition and the hx doesn't like to run init |
| 21:10.19 | hrw | JustinP: alsamixer works? |
| 21:10.50 | sirfred | hrw: I've desinstalled opie-mediummount, but no improvement. |
| 21:11.41 | hrw | ;( |
| 21:11.48 | hrw | sirfred: will have to debug it then |
| 21:12.02 | sirfred | hrw: I'm going to try to dump some logs of opie start, to see what happens. |
| 21:12.15 | hrw | sirfred: qpe -nodaemon? |
| 21:12.18 | sirfred | hrw: The other problem: initial wizard using a very tiny screen, also persists. |
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| 21:12.46 | sirfred | hrw: Yes, and setting a network connection before. |
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| 21:17.09 | sirfred | hrw: Segmentation fault |
| 21:17.25 | sirfred | hrw: Last log lines are: |
| 21:17.44 | sirfred | : LauncherView::removeAllItems() |
| 21:17.45 | sirfred | : WARNING: XXXXXXXXXXX rescan |
| 21:17.45 | sirfred | Segmentation fault. |
| 21:17.56 | hrw | thx |
| 21:18.00 | sirfred | hrw: np |
| 21:18.48 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r55b7b942... 10/packages/classpath/classpath_0.20.bb: classpath: added 0.20 from .dev |
| 21:18.52 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r05fdb2f9... 10/packages/jamvm/jamvm_1.4.2.bb: jamvm: added 1.4.2 from .dev |
| 21:18.56 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r645ae2fc... 10/packages/jikes/jikes_1.22.bb: jikes: added 1.22 from .dev |
| 21:19.00 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3b86cb47... 10/packages/cramfs/cramfs/ (cramfs-andersee.patch makefile.patch): cramfs: added forgotten patches |
| 21:19.04 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rbca2184c... 10/packages/cdparanoia/files/Makefile.patch: cdparanoia: added forgotten patch |
| 21:19.08 | CIA-9 | 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rb0002fc0... 10/packages/pipepanic/files/fix-datadir.patch: pipepanic: added forgotten patch |
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| 21:19.24 | hrw | sirfred: can you pastebin log? |
| 21:20.07 | sirfred | hrw: I have to say with shame that I've never have do it before. |
| 21:20.19 | sirfred | hrw: Can you give me an url? |
| 21:20.25 | hrw | ~pastebin |
| 21:20.32 | ibot | pastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 21:20.42 | sirfred | Thanks. :) |
| 21:20.42 | hrw | pastebin.ca looks fastest |
| 21:21.36 | sirfred | hrw: http://pastebin.ca/76003 |
| 21:21.50 | hrw | thx |
| 21:22.25 | hrw | sirfred: you had sd or cf inside? |
| 21:22.40 | sirfred | hrw: No |
| 21:22.47 | sirfred | hrw: And also removed opie-mediumount |
| 21:23.09 | hrw | can you try with opie-mediummount installed? |
| 21:23.18 | hrw | void DocumentListPrivate::initialize() |
| 21:23.24 | hrw | its inside of it |
| 21:23.52 | hrw | time to sleep |
| 21:23.59 | hrw | have a nice weekend guys |
| 21:24.06 | JustinP | hrw: haven't been able to try it yet. But mpd didn't work....which seemed strange |
| 21:24.15 | sirfred | hrw: Good night |
| 21:24.24 | JustinP | hrw: sleep well, thanks for the release work |
| 21:24.28 | JustinP | hrw: will do my best to test |
| 21:24.53 | do13 | hrw: night |
| 21:25.43 | hrw | JustinP: speaking about release... |
| 21:26.11 | hrw | JustinP: no e-images. edb-native killed ewi once and I do not want to make it again |
| 21:26.41 | hrw | edb-native + gtk-1.2 == thousands of gtk-config during do_configure() |
| 21:27.30 | sirfred | hrw: Same result with opie-mediummount installed. |
| 21:27.35 | hrw | sirfred: ok. |
| 21:27.41 | hrw | cu again |
| 21:27.51 | sirfred | hrw|gone: Now a pair of PcmciaManager::cardMessage( ) among WARNING and Segmentation fault |
| 21:28.59 | JustinP | god damn it |
| 21:29.20 | JustinP | ~lart ewi |
| 21:31.49 | sirfred | Night. |
| 21:36.05 | CoreDump|home | hi# |
| 21:36.46 | eFfeM | hi |
| 21:48.56 | XorA|gone | hrw|gone: Ill look at that next week, I thought I had fixed them, maybe I forgot that version |
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| 21:59.49 | mr_nice_slacker1 | woglinde:may i ask you about the bzImage? I can't get it compiled. I will try tomorrow with more different toolversions. |
| 21:59.59 | woglinde | mr_nice hm |
| 22:00.01 | woglinde | right |
| 22:00.08 | woglinde | that will be the easiest |
| 22:00.13 | woglinde | but I have to go now |
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| 23:00.50 | CIA-9 | 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r2f40a0b8... 10/packages/mplayer/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:00.50 | CIA-9 | mplayer_1.0pre8.bb : small change in the include order that should |
| 23:00.50 | CIA-9 | hopefully fix the problem hrw saw in oz354x branch. I am unable to |
| 23:00.50 | CIA-9 | repeat in .dev but I had these patches in an earlier release for a |
| 23:00.50 | CIA-9 | very similiar error message. |
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